You still do even natural bodybuilders sometimes look too big the best looking people are the ones that do bodyweight looks more toned and natural and has more symmetry
@@adenshaw5273 Of course there is always exceptions dude, most guys will never get so big to the point where anyone says “he’s too big” as a natural, this should be common sense
Make it 99.99999% No way in hell anyone who trains naturally will become too big at any point in life I've yet to see a natural looking guy even approach size of a smallest juiced bodybuilder
Yeah, but a body that is too muscular can be a goal which can lead to body dysmorphia and to steroid abuse. Knowing that a bodybuilder body is not even wanted by women would help a lot of guys.
@Peter P with how much time bodybuilders spend looking at themselves in the mirror and flexing, I'd say that most of them don't do it to pick up chicks.
@@disabledfalafel wayy wayy more gear, considering now in 2022, or should I say 2023, has way more variety of anabolic steroids, back then it was simpler. glad legends back in the 60s - 70s are still living a much healthier life now adays
@@henry6789 what’s even more wild is he considers aesthetics ,athletic when in reality it’s the athletic look doesn’t mean they are athletic bc ik quite a few people like that that just built muscle and are clunky and uncoordinated or just don’t have the best genetic when it comes to athletic performance but they got hella goo muscle insertions
Correct. My goal as a bodybuilder was always to be the guy people say they don't want to look like because he's too big. Basically wanted to be a Kaiju.
I agree but most the body builders you showed are injecting all sorts of things. Natural body building looks more like aesthetics until you reach the top of the todem poll, those guys are insane.
That or the bodybuilders he showed were In the open division, very different if you compare it to men's phypise which is literally all about aesthetics
Bro forgot that the most popular category of bodybuilding (for the Mr Olympia, at the moment) is about golden era aesthetics. Bodybuilding is about molding the body into what you wish (hence the name).
Nah I will always respect and admire men who built themselves. Women who claim they don’t like that are clearly either lying 100% or just delusional and must like feminine boys that wear skirts on a daily basis.
@@Shadow497 bassically. Natural muscle is attractive(even on women) but un natural muscle is gross, unless you are daddy noel. That guys found such a Perfect sweetspot.
@@Coach_MarioRios no. fighting skills = good at fighting having bigger calves if anything just makes you heavier and in most cases in combat sports weight is a huge advantage (hence weight classes exist)
One is competition and the other is prefference.When i was doing karate i was 20 kilos up with much more bulk in my arms.Now i do parkour and i am much slimmer but more toned,also more tolerant to pain and stress to the muscles. Dont get it twisted people.Its always good to train your body but ask yourself first what you want to achieve with it.
Even open body building looks at aesthetics and proportions. Thats why Ramy lost to Hadi this year I. The Olympia. He was smaller but his body flowed much better
yes. I train aesthetics. while I don't train specifically athletics, they are similar, and athletic training will get you an aesthetic physique, maybe with a bit less mass than some desire.
I’m 16 going on 17 here in a few days and I’m shooting for natural body builder, it’s just what I want I love having muscle and seeing my muscle get BIGGER .
He is one of those kids that knows nothing but makes up any stuff just to make himself look smart and gets made fun of when people correct him. I used to be one of those kids 😅😅😅😅.
when I was thin I wanted an athletic body, now I want to be bigger and it turned out to be very difficult, I salute a natural body builder, I realize how difficult it is
Lol. Still doesn’t change the fact that old school bodybuilders like Frank Zane and Steve Reeves were way more aesthetic than people with athletic body types
People are clearly getting things mixed up nowadays. Even though people would throw me into the aesthetics category, I'm trying to build muscle as well, I'm just trying to remain lean.......and I'm not on the juice.
One of my friends made a presentation about Arnold schwarzenegger. Boys thoughts were really positive about his body, while ALL the girls said it's too much muscle. I guess muscle is a man thing.
Arnold’s bodybuilding was aesthetic. Like all things, humans prefer natural and balance. So it not only applies to muscles to be consider aesthetic or beautiful
Definitely agreed and even though I’m against bodybuilding and I hate it and that I don’t wanna be a bodybuilder but just a kid that works out to get a great athletic body, we all have different goals at the end of the day and I feel like we need to respect that 💯
I'm glad that someone actually recognises the difference between the 2 and finally addresses. Then again that doesn't deem bodybuilding useless. It's just 2 different things that's all.
In my opinion bodybuilding should be about building as much muscle as possible WHILE MAINTAINING AESTHETICS. Somewhere after Arnold Schwarzenegger left the scene, this changed to just building as much muscle as humanly possible which I think defeats the purpose of bodybuilding.
Yeah I agree with it being more aesthetic to have a v taper but it’s like saying that you shouldn’t wear proper clothes to work because they look ugly. Body building is these peoples job so they have to look that way.
@@oranges557 he shows pictures of open bodybuilders to prove his point when there are many more categories of bodybuilding. This dude is almost never right.
@@olebanjolip618 guys like chris bumstead who are in the tested division and chris is waaay too big too. Women find that gross, thats just the reality and ive seen it times and times. Athletic strong bodies will always be the peak for men
@@oranges557 tested? Chris bumstead is not in a tested division, he is in the classic physique division which is untested. Natural bodybuilding is more aesthetic than "athletic strong bodies"
It's not just about size, which still Bunstead has quite a bit of. Even looking too shredded, too defined or having very high peaks can appear exaggerated and cartoonish-like. Imo, athletic good-looking physique can tolerate a couple of underdeveloped muscles or body fat.
I think we’ve stepped into a middle ground territory because the athletic body you mentioned is bigger than what used to be athletic aesthetic now it’s big but not insane , before the body of athletic would have been the beginner lifter we consider today
This guy is just encouraging being small like for me I wanna have like 10lbs of muscle max cause I don’t wanna be super lean and small and I don’t wanna be super big
But training like a bodybuilder and being natural means you will always remain in that aesthetic, still human looking group, even if you train like chris bumstead
Did people forget the main reason why they started working out? i have never based this on public surveys or what women like, i want to work out simply to change my body to the better
Bodybuilding is a form of art which primary used to be about symmetry and proportions and looking the most aesthetic with good size, men’s open division has become a competition of who has the biggest muscles, however classic physique and men’s physique still focus more on the aesthetic look of the human body. Year by year bodybuilding is getting better at bringing back the golden era. ❤
Why don't you show body builders in classic physique or men's physique. Both of which restrict the amount of muscle and prioritize symmetry and conditioning
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To be 100% honest, as a natural lifter you never have to worry about being “too much” 😂
You still do even natural bodybuilders sometimes look too big the best looking people are the ones that do bodyweight looks more toned and natural and has more symmetry
@@adenshaw5273 Of course there is always exceptions dude, most guys will never get so big to the point where anyone says “he’s too big” as a natural, this should be common sense
People who do bw are too skinny, especially in their legs.
@@mattmiedema so true lots of people think they shouldn’t train too hard because they might become too big 😂
Just remember not to eat too much, or bulk and cut
99% of us won’t become “too muscular” on accident
Make it 99.99999%
No way in hell anyone who trains naturally will become too big at any point in life
I've yet to see a natural looking guy even approach size of a smallest juiced bodybuilder
100%*
Yeah, but a body that is too muscular can be a goal which can lead to body dysmorphia and to steroid abuse. Knowing that a bodybuilder body is not even wanted by women would help a lot of guys.
"i dont know doctor i just fell on a needle"
@Peter P with how much time bodybuilders spend looking at themselves in the mirror and flexing, I'd say that most of them don't do it to pick up chicks.
I think old school bodybuilding has a lot of aesthetic involved. Yes they try to put on the most muscle ever at the same time they were very aesthetic
This is true also Arnold shortzen… also said this
(I can’t spell his name)
the modern mass monsters also used way more gear
*use
@@jimmynoo-chron Yeah Arnold Schwarzenegger was the grandfather of bodybuilding.
@@disabledfalafel wayy wayy more gear, considering now in 2022, or should I say 2023, has way more variety of anabolic steroids, back then it was simpler. glad legends back in the 60s - 70s are still living a much healthier life now adays
*pick up the wrong dumbbell by mistake*
Me : Ah shit .. I'm too muscular!
🤣
😂😂
👍
😂😂😂
Just cut
Training for aesthetics is bodybuilding, there are different types of bodybuilders
aesthetics is also more of a personal view or standpoint
Right training more as natural bodybuilders or physique competitors
W 👍
Yeah this guy is basically putting down bodybuilders
@@henry6789 what’s even more wild is he considers aesthetics ,athletic when in reality it’s the athletic look doesn’t mean they are athletic bc ik quite a few people like that that just built muscle and are clunky and uncoordinated or just don’t have the best genetic when it comes to athletic performance but they got hella goo muscle insertions
Athletes train for their sport , not for hypertrophy, they are just well toned after hours of endurance like Leon Edwards
Sometimes they’re better off not having aesthetics so they can perform optimally (like the fatasses in heavyweight boxing and MMA)
💀💀
Classic physique bodybuilders watching this 👁️👄👁️
bumstead is classic, most of those guys are stereotypically large
Check their off season physique and tell me that he looks "Athletic"
Mens physique being overlooked again lmao
@@Rohit-wx2fpnot gonna lie, Chris is insanely aesthetic in the off seasons. Man just gets super cut for comp
@@WhiteHawkmma he doesn’t look aesthetic nor athletic off season, stop dick riding nigga
Correct. My goal as a bodybuilder was always to be the guy people say they don't want to look like because he's too big. Basically wanted to be a Kaiju.
Exactly. I always get "I don't want to be as big as you." My response, you won't.
@@maddog1760 saying you wont is a compliment to them
@@ABABABABABABABABABABBBBBBcope
I agree but most the body builders you showed are injecting all sorts of things. Natural body building looks more like aesthetics until you reach the top of the todem poll, those guys are insane.
That or the bodybuilders he showed were In the open division, very different if you compare it to men's phypise which is literally all about aesthetics
todem pole
Well he did say to the extreme.
@@anxiousweeb8753 no man, the pure aesthetics you can find in the classic physique, that's literally the perfect physique
@@nicomidoantares9485 Men's is literally classic but without looking at the legs lol
This is the type of guy that goes to the gym and is afraid of getting "too big" before he starts working out
ur quite slow aren’t u
Bodybuilding at large is NOT just about building as much muscle as possible.
Nowadays it is.
@@ktheterkuceder6825 no, in fact bodybuilders stop training a muscle if it make their body less proportional
@@ktheterkuceder6825 Never. Look at the last Mr Olympia competition. The biggest Guy placed last
@@ktheterkuceder6825Big Ramy had more muscle and lost cause his conditioning, not all about mass
@@benitocamela174Well There are different categories
Bro forgot that the most popular category of bodybuilding (for the Mr Olympia, at the moment) is about golden era aesthetics. Bodybuilding is about molding the body into what you wish (hence the name).
I'd say, woman don't really care for body builders, but men RESPECT bodybuilders.
Different lvl of body building. Women like body building bodies. The muscles, abs, ect. Just to to the point they look un natural.
Nah I will always respect and admire men who built themselves. Women who claim they don’t like that are clearly either lying 100% or just delusional and must like feminine boys that wear skirts on a daily basis.
@@Shadow497 bassically. Natural muscle is attractive(even on women) but un natural muscle is gross, unless you are daddy noel. That guys found such a Perfect sweetspot.
@@ارييلفلوريس I mean it’s not that black and white g most girls like muscles on a guy but just not too much where he looks like a meathead
@Test bro tip:
Don't listen to girls 100% of the time
What kind of girl don't want a guy that can defend her? 🤣 just think about it man
We don't do it for others, we do it for ourselves :)
ok but i wanna know, does it get you girls?? (this is not a hate comment)
@@aaroviren yup
Train too much and ur gonna attract more guys than girls 🤣🗿
@@aaroviren certainly doesnt hurt 😂
@@susmitasaren6385ik this comment is old but why is this good for yourself? Isn’t being overweight bad for your health even if you’re mainly muscle
i can’t wait for the next video about having small calves! 😂😂😂
bros coping fr
Small calves = good at fighting
@@Coach_MarioRios no.
fighting skills = good at fighting
having bigger calves if anything just makes you heavier and in most cases in combat sports weight is a huge advantage (hence weight classes exist)
@@JimMcmiller637 terrible refutation / argument compared to Mario’s argument about calves
@@sieg6635 his argument is completely wrong lol
@@Tera5 how
One is competition and the other is prefference.When i was doing karate i was 20 kilos up with much more bulk in my arms.Now i do parkour and i am much slimmer but more toned,also more tolerant to pain and stress to the muscles.
Dont get it twisted people.Its always good to train your body but ask yourself first what you want to achieve with it.
Anybody who lifts natural won't ever have to worry about building "too much" muscle lmao
Frank Zane; THE definition of aesthetic bodybuilding.
true as fuk
I don’t agree
@@James-yy4vl then come and fight me in real life
Facts. I'd want a larger lower body, but Zane's upper is historic
The fkn 🐏🐏🐏🐏
Dude, there is a reason there is classic physique bodybuilding, which is all about symmetry and aesthetic.
Even open body building looks at aesthetics and proportions. Thats why Ramy lost to Hadi this year I. The Olympia. He was smaller but his body flowed much better
Never cared for aesthetics,I wanna look like THOR from norse mythology
Every natty gymrag knows you cant become “too big”
@TheEditor107 no you can't, you don't have .00001 genetics
@TheEditor107 or if you aren't cut and have like 25% bf lol
Its pretty hard to build too much muscle as a natty
Aren't most (if not all) bodybuilders not natty? Like in every community they just encourage and condone steroid use.
@@zairnermuller4960 bruh no? but to compete seriously yes
yes. I train aesthetics. while I don't train specifically athletics, they are similar, and athletic training will get you an aesthetic physique, maybe with a bit less mass than some desire.
You do hypertrophy which is essentially just natural bodybuilding 😂
Why does he sound like he just ran a mile to tell me this
I’m 16 going on 17 here in a few days and I’m shooting for natural body builder, it’s just what I want I love having muscle and seeing my muscle get BIGGER .
Aesthetics is a branch of philosophy concerned with defining what is beautiful and other related topics.
Most Natural bodybuilders are not in that “too big” category you get too big when you hop on gear
That’s why classic physics exist
No that's just physics above the subatomic level. He's talking about how the human body looks with regards to physique and bodybuilding
Who said body building are aesthetic?
Body building is never been aesthetic, it's ever been AMAZINGGGGGGG
Defining bodybuilding as building the most muscle possible is like defining painting as smearing as much paint on a canvas as possible.
Discord mods have by far the most aesthetic body’s
As a Discord mod who actually has muscles this is funy
@@ottomanpapyrus9365 Which servers are you moderator in
@@wladynoszhighlights5989 Gaming server
lmfao
being aesthetic is super EZ.. just eat clean, now bodybuilding is no joke! .. whole nother physical and mental grind 😤💪🏽
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Back when Mario used to acknowledge bodybuilders to some degree 😂😂😂
Bro is so confident giving wrong information
He is one of those kids that knows nothing but makes up any stuff just to make himself look smart and gets made fun of when people correct him.
I used to be one of those kids 😅😅😅😅.
when I was thin I wanted an athletic body, now I want to be bigger and it turned out to be very difficult, I salute a natural body builder, I realize how difficult it is
first vid coach ain't mad😂
Arnold is both extremely muscular and aesthetic
To men
Bodybuilders: exist
Him: AND I TOOK THAT PERSONALLY😤
We do it for ourselves, no one else.
Follow your dreams king,
I literally don't know why you guys are arguing. You can train for power and hypertrophy at the same time wtf
Bodybuilding is not about just building as much as possible. It’s about size, symmetry, proportion and aesthetics
Bodybuilding ain’t about building a bunch of muscle it’s about building a lot of muscles evenly and in proportions
Lol. Still doesn’t change the fact that old school bodybuilders like Frank Zane and Steve Reeves were way more aesthetic than people with athletic body types
why evrey time says "aesthetics" he shows a pic of leon edwards lol
People are clearly getting things mixed up nowadays. Even though people would throw me into the aesthetics category, I'm trying to build muscle as well, I'm just trying to remain lean.......and I'm not on the juice.
Personally I prefer the bodybuilder body than the aesthetic one
Yo what’s this beat?🔥🔥🔥
ongod 😭😭
99.99999999% True 😅
One guy: Steve Reeves
If she cannot appreciate that then she belongs to the streets
Chris Bumstead is peak idgaf who thinks it's "excessive"
He must not watch men’s physique division of “ bodybuilding “
One of my friends made a presentation about Arnold schwarzenegger. Boys thoughts were really positive about his body, while ALL the girls said it's too much muscle. I guess muscle is a man thing.
Arnold’s bodybuilding was aesthetic. Like all things, humans prefer natural and balance. So it not only applies to muscles to be consider aesthetic or beautiful
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Definitely agreed and even though I’m against bodybuilding and I hate it and that I don’t wanna be a bodybuilder but just a kid that works out to get a great athletic body, we all have different goals at the end of the day and I feel like we need to respect that 💯
Exactly, I just like trolling bodybuilders sometimes 😅
@@Coach_MarioRios I feel you 😆
@@Coach_MarioRios yea just like you trolling that small calves are beneficial 😩
Finally a video where he isn't yelling into the camera
Good thing I lift for myself. I don’t really care what the average gym girl likes…
I'm glad that someone actually recognises the difference between the 2 and finally addresses. Then again that doesn't deem bodybuilding useless. It's just 2 different things that's all.
In my opinion bodybuilding should be about building as much muscle as possible WHILE MAINTAINING AESTHETICS. Somewhere after Arnold Schwarzenegger left the scene, this changed to just building as much muscle as humanly possible which I think defeats the purpose of bodybuilding.
When you talk abt bodybuilding weighting 70 kg:
Bro you can be big in size and still be aesthetic i mean just look at flex wheeler he was big and aesthetic asf at the same time
Mario Rios just just “BOTH GENDERS” Cancellation incoming 😂😂
Depends on the era. No sane man or woman will look at Prime Arnold Schwarzenegger and say he isn't aesthetic.
Yes they will..?
@@XxCallofDutyManiacxX no they won't Arnold was god
He isn't
never met a woman that found 1974 arnold attractive, but i dont live in america tho
Gr just looked good. But his physique ruined it. I honestly think a young Arnold would've looked amazing with an athletic build instead
I was looking at that public interview alright...👀
It all comes down to preference.
Good video,no rage bait,and you didn’t talk trash on bodybuilders good job
That’s why classic physique exists
Bro is in love with Leon edwards
Btw bodybuilders also have the “V-taper”
As a professional bodybuilder, I can assure you none of us do bodybuilding for your tiktok aesthetics.
Tiktok and instagram are the worst things happen in modern time especially these fake ppl on insta with their super polished pictures
this dude doesn't feel his day is complete without shitting on bodybuilders 😂😂
Based
Yeah I agree with it being more aesthetic to have a v taper but it’s like saying that you shouldn’t wear proper clothes to work because they look ugly. Body building is these peoples job so they have to look that way.
Bro talking straight out his ass
Bodybuilding is gay
Hes 100% right. Only 19 year old meatheads will disagree and think that women like super buff guys
@@oranges557 he shows pictures of open bodybuilders to prove his point when there are many more categories of bodybuilding. This dude is almost never right.
@@olebanjolip618 guys like chris bumstead who are in the tested division and chris is waaay too big too. Women find that gross, thats just the reality and ive seen it times and times. Athletic strong bodies will always be the peak for men
@@oranges557 tested? Chris bumstead is not in a tested division, he is in the classic physique division which is untested. Natural bodybuilding is more aesthetic than "athletic strong bodies"
bro is mad cause he failed his bulk
He had to include leon
“What’s the most attractive body type on a man”
“Cbum”
Interview asking a woman at the gym
Arnold and CBum are great examples of Aesthetic Bodybuilding
Definetly not to women. Definetly not.
Chris Bumstead is by far the most aesthetics bodybuilder today besides Breon and Ramon.
It's not just about size, which still Bunstead has quite a bit of. Even looking too shredded, too defined or having very high peaks can appear exaggerated and cartoonish-like. Imo, athletic good-looking physique can tolerate a couple of underdeveloped muscles or body fat.
I think we’ve stepped into a middle ground territory because the athletic body you mentioned is bigger than what used to be athletic aesthetic now it’s big but not insane , before the body of athletic would have been the beginner lifter we consider today
This guy is just encouraging being small like for me I wanna have like 10lbs of muscle max cause I don’t wanna be super lean and small and I don’t wanna be super big
you can't say that cbum isn't aesthetic cmon
But training like a bodybuilder and being natural means you will always remain in that aesthetic, still human looking group, even if you train like chris bumstead
Did people forget the main reason why they started working out? i have never based this on public surveys or what women like, i want to work out simply to change my body to the better
Who cares lol, build the body you want not what other people want
Of course, but I’m just getting the message across on what’s truly aesthetic
@@Coach_MarioRios it’s subjective. Idk man you just always come across as being anti bodybuilding or something
@@trapboost4841unnatural bodybuilding deserves every bit of ridicule it gets
@@Coach_MarioRios chicken legs is aesthetic hahaahahahahahHh
it's okay pals, leave the big guys to those who appreciate them
These morons actually think you need to train differently, because they actually think they could build too much muscle if they wanted to.
LMAOO
Bodybuilding is a form of art which primary used to be about symmetry and proportions and looking the most aesthetic with good size, men’s open division has become a competition of who has the biggest muscles, however classic physique and men’s physique still focus more on the aesthetic look of the human body. Year by year bodybuilding is getting better at bringing back the golden era. ❤
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Okay, I've been seeing it in some comments in internet. What does it really mean? (I'm too lazy to Google this when I'm inside the yt abb)
@@marvira a random guy started it and told us to stop saying it in February
*You* have nothing to worry about, brah
Why don't you show body builders in classic physique or men's physique. Both of which restrict the amount of muscle and prioritize symmetry and conditioning
This guy literally shoots shit with confidence and post it.. 💀
Old school looks aesthetic but after like 1980s it was just about being huge. Bodybuilding is hardwork aesthetics is where you have to be Lean
when you realize an
aesthetics is literally a criteria of measurement in Bodybuilding shows
If you're natural the two are the same. You can only get grossly big on if you're on the gear.
song?
"The most aesthetic body type"
Proceeds to show ronaldo's blocky waist and 0 V taper
Classic Physic is Bodybuilding and very aesthetic!
The first guy looked like a hot cheeto😂😂
True - although I would not have made the same selections for examples of esthetic and athletic builds