I fucking love how open and truthful you guys are. It's a breath of fresh air amongst all these fake naturals who think they've found some special way to train that makes it superior to everyone else's training.
I totally agree there’s intentional fake-natty deception going on, like for marketing reasons or whatever. But the criminalization and stigmatization doesn’t exactly facilitate open dialogue either. Instead of being able to study and discuss PEDs, we get split into camps based on anecdote and rumor.
I started lifting in the 80s and the whole approach has changed since then. Literally all our lifting media then was based on selling supplements and claiming they were responsible for the pro's gains. Magazines straight up told us legal supplements and the special routines they were showing us were how pro bodybuilding worked. (Other strength sports didn't get any coverage in the main media.) In the 90s there was a bit of a counter-push to try and serve non-assisted lifters. But now everything's much more honest and that's so healthy.
@@RenaissancePeriodization thank you dr. Mike and Jared for bringing up the you cant tell people exactly what to eat and that its illegal and you have to be RD to do that. because it seems like so many fitness bros, and gym people don't know that. but I also I have heard that some states you don't have to be a RD like Arizona and I think Nevada but for like California and many others you have to be one. thanks
"If you look up to pros and you are a hard training natty who weighs like 160, you may very well be training harder than your pro." I don't know whether to take offense or be flattered, but I took it personally either way.
@PogChamp Caveat is this: at equivalent dosages, people who train harder get better results than people who train like p*ssies. They talked about this on the RP webinar when someone mentioned that AlphaDestiny claimed that drug users can train at 8 RIR and it doesn't matter.
@PogChamp no, what they're saying is part of "genetic" edge is the individuals response to gear. They're genetically superior in terms of physiology but also hormonally, most people take a lot of gear and still look like shit
If only RP, Derek, Coach Doucette and TH-cam were around in the 90s, when I was growing up, to dispel so many of the myths surrounding bodybuilding. So many of us who grew up in that era were we were duped by all the muscle mags showing our favorite bodybuilders (Lee Haney, Dorian Yates, Shawn Ray, etc. etc) grimacing in agony, while lifting an ungodly amount weight in photographs, giving the impression that they all trained to absolute failure on every set and that they all endured excruciating pain in order to look the way they do. This generation should feel fortunate that you have people who tell it like it is, and dismantle the façade that the bodybuilding community has been nurturing for decades
Drake Santiago I agree with you 100% with everything besides,with the whole MPMD and The parrot snitch manlet Douchet drama queen, i don't agree with you with those clowns. But definitely RP i wish he would of been here many years ago the kids are very lucky thats for sure to have him and so are we. He ( dr. mike) seriously gives out so much free information its crazy. It just to me shows his character. Seems like a great dude. Congrats Dr. Mike he's busted his but off to get where he is today !
In my youtube viewing experience, the average IFBB pro walks into the gym, goes to a cable or single joint machine exercise for the muscle he's training on that particular day, does 30 reps to start warming up, chills for 45 seconds, adds weight, does 15 reps for the second warmup, chills for a minute, adds weight & does two sets of 15 with about 5 reps in the tank. He then goes to a plate loaded machine, & does 4-5 ramped sets, adding a plate each set, with the second to last one being hard & the heaviest being almost to failure or to failure. If he's good he does a backoff set. He then goes around to 4 other machines for that particular muscle group, doing something approximating 3X12 with his 20 rep max, or doing ramped sets once again with the last set to failure, 10-15 reps on everything. His last exercise averages 20 rep sets, & seems to fail more due to the pain of the pump than inability to complete another rep. He does some posing, does not stretch, & leaves the gym.
Seems to work for them though, they're the pro not you. Try not to be bitter. If they can get away with half assed work, why call them out for it? You play with the cards you're dealt.
See now I understand why I burned down so much when I trained hard before pandemic. I would train until failure every single time. I would also train every damn day and I did full body. I would start with deadlifts 4x8, bench 4x8, squats 4x8, rows, pulldowns, raises, curls, etc etc. Every set until failure. I drank about a quart of whole milk every day at work (waitress). And I was strong af (relatively to now or ever before anyway). I could stand press 95 lbs for 8 reps while weighing 130lbs. But then I just lost all my strength and my bench was 95lbs now. It was very discouraging. And eventually I just stopped working out because I missed my peak numbers and lower numbers felt like a failure. I shouldn't have trained the way I trained, because it was not sustainable. This shit is hard. Thanks Dr. Mike for educating people like me. Спасибо и успехов вам, чтобы скорее купить Ламборгини =)
It helps, but do note they agree that the average pro still does better than the average gym goer, "absolutely". Don't waste the gear if you're going to accept that strain on your vitals
@ihateidz don't take yourself so seriously mate, he may not be interested in the sport and just care about fitness or powerlifting or w/e I'll never be a ballet dancer and that's totally fine
I was literally just posting how I was conflicted about these guys since I haven't heard them mention anabolic before but this Jared guy is cool as fuck about it
Guys, I never get an answer on this, so I think most people don't know too: When applying RIR or RPE through a mesocycle, should the target RIR/RPE be complied to a all sets of a training session or are the last sets of exercises exceptions, where you should give all you have? In addition to this: Is it different when cutting down compared to when building muscle?
Target RIR for all sets. If you follow RP style periodization, your mesocycles probably end with a lot of failure training . And no same principles apply for massing/fat loss. The nuances they talk about in cutting vs massing training are more so regarding paying more attention to SFR while cutting or recognizing shifting volume needs between phases
There is no hard rule about this. But the way we do it, we generally apply the same RIR to all sets of all exercises in a given week, and increase the relative effort (reduce RIR) over the weeks. - Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization Oh, what a pleasure to be answered by Dr. Mike himself 😃 Thank you so much, that takes every doubt for sure. All the best for your journey ahead and BR from Germany
as a hardcore Greg Doucette fan, hearing Jared talk was eye opening. It finally made me listen to your point of not needing to go to failure. However, Greg was a world record powerlifter and he says people in athletics like the olympics have to train to failure to push themselves and that might be true for performance athletes like strength athletes.
What about the podcast on training to failure that Iron Culture did? There, the interviewed guy argued that, as long as the weight is sufficiently heavy (something like 5 to 10 RMs), training between 4 and 7 reps from failure did not differ in its hypetrophic effects from training between 4 reps and 0 reps from failure. What are your thoughts on that? Do you think that this reading of the literature is incorrect for some reason?
Holy shit. I haven’t heard anyone ever talk about a Ketchup Sandwich. I shit you not, my poor excuse of a baby sitter that I had when I was 4-5 would honestly make me toasted Ketchup Sandwiches when I was hungry.
When I got my nutrition cert it basically allows me to give info on nutrition and suggest maybe the best foods for certain goals, but unless you have a PhD in nutrition you can't tell someone exactly how to eat or how much to eat
I am not an expert by any means, but I always thought that professional bodybuilders were on so many substances that they basically just have to go through the motions to progress. I.e., there isn't much magic to their diet or training (not to say, of course, that they don't diet and train hard).
Drugs are a gigantic advantage, don't get me wrong, but if you have dogshit training, diet, or sleep, you're pretty fucked. There are steroid cycle failures posted to reddit where some normie dumbass runs a huge dose of test while sitting on the couch gaming for a few months and sporadically going to curl or bench, and looks worse off. Still small but now with acne lol. Used properly they're a 3x + multiplier with no ceiling outside your own survival tho
I train with slow eccentric and all that and always to failure in all that I do. I'm big but I just can't get to that next freakn level. Maybe it's my genetics. I am starting to eat more, I'm known as the guy who eats a lot. I have to eat about just over a gram per body weight. I'm gonna eat more carbs and just keep up and get a lill fatter for this winter and c where it takes me and use more honey and p butter for the calories.
😂Yup, we need to know this. Thanl u for talking about this, esp. Listeners that are new to training and have been following genetic freaks and enhanced bodybuilders/Athletes.
Personally I'm not that interested in what an enhanced guy has to say about diet or training. Firstly, many of them are lying to their audience (or to themselves) about what's really causing their gains. Second even if they are honest, it's not as relevant to me as I'm not on roids and don't intend to ever be.
Thanks for the great info and humor as always! I had to think about Branch Warren the whole time. The walking definition of toxic masculinity on his social media. Dropping dumbells on the floor from the highest spot and thus wasting half a rep lol And the comment section seems to be a gold mine of cringe. Here's one "Hell yea !!! No one trains like this no more !!! But I do !!! Can’t no one keep up with this 51-year-old. Kids these days don’t have a dam clue". OKay Texas fitness business owner which I couldn't even find via Google after searching for the name and address and the link in your bio is the Yahoo! front page - good for you.
Effectively destroying the "**insert pro bodybuilder** trained this way and he won 16 Mr Olympias, his methods have to be the best!!" argument. Your move, "Heavy Duty/High Intensity" bros.
The Mike Mentzer crowd is hilarious. The guy used up to 3g of deca per week alone. Unless his followers are willing to do that for the majority of their training career.....good luck.
@@nomad9584 Exactly. Mike could have built the same physique training however he liked, high volume or high intensity wouldn't matter. He just had programs/books to sell
Funny how idiots still follow the teachings of Mentzer, a meth head, who interestengly started plugging his 'heavy duty' shit more when he was off his tits.
To sum it up, if you have average or worse genetics you could be busting your balls in the gym for years and still not see the results of someone more "gifted", enhanced or not just going thru the motions.
Not trying to be a dick at all, just a genuine question. Since you are alluding to ifbb pros not training hard enough/to failure, and ifbb pros are already pretty frikkin huge, how much more huge would they be if they did go to failure more. And further, both of you are also on gear and arent anywhere near as big as many of these ifbb pros, even though you do train to failure more. This isnt a jab at you, I agree ifbb pros generally dont know that much shit about training and nutrition, and I have learnt a lot from you too, but just curiousity.
It's kind of crazy how litigious the US is that you can't even give someone a specific diet without a degree. Are people dying in droves from specific quantities of oatmeal?
What’s crazy is if you travel 50 miles in any direction in England you will encounter a very different accent. There is no one English accent let alone British accent. However, Dr. Mike, your British accent is sadly not anything like any of them hahaha!
I have a question, please someone HELP ME!: even if you because of your genetics don't put a lot of muscle but still train hard and eat well, from a health standpoint, do you can obtain the same health benefits training with weights compared to those who put a lot of muscle or not? Because I like gym, but I lack great genetics, and I don't mind too much it, but as long as I can obtain health benetifs I'll keep going. But if I can obtain the same health benefits with just a sport like soccer...
Bodybuilders usually are destroying their health, you don't even want that level of health "benefit" lol. Do the best you can for your own health, don't worry about what us dumbasses are doing, and your longevity and health span will thank you
@@muscularclassrepresentativ5663 Exactly you just need a little bit more muscle mass than normal to improve metabolic health and increase injury prevention.
Everyone should lift weights, muscle atrophying is a huge danger as you get older and lifting weights will massively reduce your risk of injury in any physical activity. That being said, you'll be totally fine doing something like lifting twice a week and spending the rest of your time playing sport (because cardio is very very important for health, too) - or splitting it into phases and lifting three months a year or something like that. If you lift for health, 1 day of lifting per week should give you like 80-90% of the health benefit.
I'm a newbie lifter (since August) and 3x a week I train for 2-3 hours and take every set to failure and sometimes take a few breaths and pump out a few more. (I take 5-10 minutes between sets to recover). I do 7 exercises currently, but only 2 legs - squats and leg curl. I'm getting decent results, but am I doing it wrong?
Plenty will tell you 2_3 hours is way too long. Can't exactly say they are wrong. Fullbody? I'd do what I did n superset things aka run back n forth. Though i wouldn't couple 2 very taxing things. Not legpress+ bench but bench + calves. Filling the rest of one Bodypart with something else. Ain't saying that's optimal but it shortens the workout.
I fucking love how open and truthful you guys are. It's a breath of fresh air amongst all these fake naturals who think they've found some special way to train that makes it superior to everyone else's training.
Thank you! We always want to make sure to give you either an honest take, or, if it breaches legal parameters, no take at all. - Dr. Mike
I totally agree there’s intentional fake-natty deception going on, like for marketing reasons or whatever. But the criminalization and stigmatization doesn’t exactly facilitate open dialogue either. Instead of being able to study and discuss PEDs, we get split into camps based on anecdote and rumor.
I started lifting in the 80s and the whole approach has changed since then. Literally all our lifting media then was based on selling supplements and claiming they were responsible for the pro's gains. Magazines straight up told us legal supplements and the special routines they were showing us were how pro bodybuilding worked. (Other strength sports didn't get any coverage in the main media.) In the 90s there was a bit of a counter-push to try and serve non-assisted lifters. But now everything's much more honest and that's so healthy.
@@RenaissancePeriodization thank you dr. Mike and Jared for bringing up the you cant tell people exactly what to eat and that its illegal and you have to be RD to do that. because it seems like so many fitness bros, and gym people don't know that.
but I also I have heard that some states you don't have to be a RD like Arizona and I think Nevada but for like California and many others you have to be one. thanks
Come for the knowledge, stay for the humor
I just come regardless
I just come because I am comming all the time, it's really fantastic.
I came for the humor but have no knowledge of it arriving
So did I and I give DR Mike 100% in both 😂😂👏👏
I'd like to see this EXACT COMMENT every video, let's go!
"If you look up to pros and you are a hard training natty who weighs like 160, you may very well be training harder than your pro." I don't know whether to take offense or be flattered, but I took it personally either way.
@PogChamp Caveat is this: at equivalent dosages, people who train harder get better results than people who train like p*ssies. They talked about this on the RP webinar when someone mentioned that AlphaDestiny claimed that drug users can train at 8 RIR and it doesn't matter.
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@PogChamp no, what they're saying is part of "genetic" edge is the individuals response to gear. They're genetically superior in terms of physiology but also hormonally, most people take a lot of gear and still look like shit
They have a better physique, so that's all that matters
@Beom Hee Kim cool story bro
I love how Jared just tells it how it is. The drugs and genetics plays a key role in what we see.
@@drewyoung7113 nobody is putting 72 pounds of muscle in their first 3 years. next to nobody, at least
@@theknowledgebridge6195 I live for extremely literal responses.
Genetics first op. Remember that.
You are providing incredible value to the community. Thank you very much.
Two juiced up dipshits spewing bullshit to folks too ignorant to see through it is more like it.
@@lylemcdonaldisright seethe
@@lylemcdonaldisright cringe
If only RP, Derek, Coach Doucette and TH-cam were around in the 90s, when I was growing up, to dispel so many of the myths surrounding bodybuilding. So many of us who grew up in that era were we were duped by all the muscle mags showing our favorite bodybuilders (Lee Haney, Dorian Yates, Shawn Ray, etc. etc) grimacing in agony, while lifting an ungodly amount weight in photographs, giving the impression that they all trained to absolute failure on every set and that they all endured excruciating pain in order to look the way they do. This generation should feel fortunate that you have people who tell it like it is, and dismantle the façade that the bodybuilding community has been nurturing for decades
Dorian was probably the closest to lifting like that
Drake Santiago I agree with you 100% with everything besides,with the whole
MPMD and The parrot snitch manlet Douchet drama queen,
i don't agree with you with those clowns. But definitely RP i wish he would of been here many years ago the kids are very lucky thats for sure to have him and so are we.
He ( dr. mike) seriously gives out so much free information its crazy. It just to me shows his character. Seems like a great dude. Congrats Dr. Mike he's busted his but off to get where he is today !
Doucette.. come with your main account, coach!
U should have read a book in the 80s , and 90s maybe you would have learned more 😂 can't believe everything u see
Thanks for the dose of realism as always RP.
In my youtube viewing experience, the average IFBB pro walks into the gym, goes to a cable or single joint machine exercise for the muscle he's training on that particular day, does 30 reps to start warming up, chills for 45 seconds, adds weight, does 15 reps for the second warmup, chills for a minute, adds weight & does two sets of 15 with about 5 reps in the tank. He then goes to a plate loaded machine, & does 4-5 ramped sets, adding a plate each set, with the second to last one being hard & the heaviest being almost to failure or to failure. If he's good he does a backoff set. He then goes around to 4 other machines for that particular muscle group, doing something approximating 3X12 with his 20 rep max, or doing ramped sets once again with the last set to failure, 10-15 reps on everything. His last exercise averages 20 rep sets, & seems to fail more due to the pain of the pump than inability to complete another rep. He does some posing, does not stretch, & leaves the gym.
💯
No need to stretch, ever.
That’s the TH-cam stuff. No one wants a camera on them when they’re going full tilt
Sad, but true:-(.
Seems to work for them though, they're the pro not you. Try not to be bitter. If they can get away with half assed work, why call them out for it? You play with the cards you're dealt.
I was so happy to hear Mike and Jared made it official!! Much love and support for youtube fitness's favorite couple! 🏳️🌈👬🌈
As a natural hobby strength trainee, this video about enhanced professional bodybuilding was really cool, interesting and funny.
I would listen to these two for hours on any topic, so fun and informative!
Thank you 🙏
What's better than Mike dropping free knowledge bombs on us? Mike and Jared combo tag team
I loved Jared’s impression at the end, plus all the great info of course.
See now I understand why I burned down so much when I trained hard before pandemic. I would train until failure every single time. I would also train every damn day and I did full body. I would start with deadlifts 4x8, bench 4x8, squats 4x8, rows, pulldowns, raises, curls, etc etc. Every set until failure. I drank about a quart of whole milk every day at work (waitress). And I was strong af (relatively to now or ever before anyway). I could stand press 95 lbs for 8 reps while weighing 130lbs. But then I just lost all my strength and my bench was 95lbs now. It was very discouraging. And eventually I just stopped working out because I missed my peak numbers and lower numbers felt like a failure. I shouldn't have trained the way I trained, because it was not sustainable. This shit is hard. Thanks Dr. Mike for educating people like me. Спасибо и успехов вам, чтобы скорее купить Ламборгини =)
Note to self: get on gear so I can bs my workout and go home to watch tv
Amen
I have a tv in the gym so I can be lazy while actively not being lazy
It helps, but do note they agree that the average pro still does better than the average gym goer, "absolutely". Don't waste the gear if you're going to accept that strain on your vitals
Lol, good luck. Only the top genetics in the world can get away with that
I'll never be a bodybuilder, but the entertainment value is great.
@ihateidz wow edgy
@ihateidz true but chill
@ihateidz don't take yourself so seriously mate, he may not be interested in the sport and just care about fitness or powerlifting or w/e
I'll never be a ballet dancer and that's totally fine
@@gabrielepirovano3529 wtf lol
@Jo Jo +1
I like the Hollingshead comparison!
This discussion style video was great !
Renaissance Toasterization
I'll show myself out
I was literally just posting how I was conflicted about these guys since I haven't heard them mention anabolic before but this Jared guy is cool as fuck about it
You must be new, they're very open about enhancement
Jared Feather being Boomhauer from King of the Hill is S-Tier content
A guy I talked to at the gym jokingly said, "I'll do a couple sets and let the test do the rest."
Yeah its true. Without the test, they would look normal
Guys, I never get an answer on this, so I think most people don't know too: When applying RIR or RPE through a mesocycle, should the target RIR/RPE be complied to a all sets of a training session or are the last sets of exercises exceptions, where you should give all you have? In addition to this: Is it different when cutting down compared to when building muscle?
Target RIR for all sets. If you follow RP style periodization, your mesocycles probably end with a lot of failure training . And no same principles apply for massing/fat loss. The nuances they talk about in cutting vs massing training are more so regarding paying more attention to SFR while cutting or recognizing shifting volume needs between phases
@@kylepacioni Thank you so much! Searched for an answer on this a long time. Have a good day!
Personally I decrease rir by one at the last set of almost every exercise as I follow an upper and lower
There is no hard rule about this. But the way we do it, we generally apply the same RIR to all sets of all exercises in a given week, and increase the relative effort (reduce RIR) over the weeks. - Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization Oh, what a pleasure to be answered by Dr. Mike himself 😃 Thank you so much, that takes every doubt for sure. All the best for your journey ahead and BR from Germany
Lolol. You guys are the smartest dude Bros I've ever had the pleasure of watching.
as a hardcore Greg Doucette fan, hearing Jared talk was eye opening. It finally made me listen to your point of not needing to go to failure. However, Greg was a world record powerlifter and he says people in athletics like the olympics have to train to failure to push themselves and that might be true for performance athletes like strength athletes.
RP vids are all awesome but these with just Jared and Mike talking are my favorite 😁
We'll do more!!
@@JAREDFEATHERRP Please do ;)
Hey I’m from Missouri!!
I enjoyed this video setup/format
Dat's my coach man 🥺
Hearts. Heart eyes. Hugs.
God, this was enormously encouraging.
British person here. You nailed it
What about the podcast on training to failure that Iron Culture did? There, the interviewed guy argued that, as long as the weight is sufficiently heavy (something like 5 to 10 RMs), training between 4 and 7 reps from failure did not differ in its hypetrophic effects from training between 4 reps and 0 reps from failure. What are your thoughts on that? Do you think that this reading of the literature is incorrect for some reason?
Damn I would like to fly to USA and go through a few weeks of training with you guys!
11:45 better than the information is to watch these 2 nervous tics!
Haha. They're just genetic ticks. Got em from my mama, and these huge calves
@@JAREDFEATHERRP You're the man!
I want to try the 4 weeks train till failure.
Just take care of your joints homie
My sleep went to complete shit and my mood/energy throughout each day crashed hard when I went through my training to failure phase lol
@@sungameloc job long did you do it for?
Love this segment
Thanks for the insight!
Can you make a video of getting lean for the first time for people who haven’t successfully been able to do it
Glad someone spoke on how 😺 a lot of pros train
Yes, yes. Many pros do in fact train like yellow cats. - Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization fucking lol
🤘🏾😎🤘🏾
Most straight up no fluff or bull.
Didn’t think it was possible
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No bull fluffing….not one bull was fluffed in the making of this video.
I am an RD 😃
Oh snap! Did not know that! That's really awesome man
BuT mY HaRdWorK aND dEdiCaTIon
LOVE the videos like this
Dope Video! More of this please!
More of this please 👌🏼
this is why I watch this fucking channel. honesty! thanks for the great content y'all, I benefit a ton from it.
8:50 😂
Hahaha. Our pleasure. Thanks for watching!!
Holy shit. I haven’t heard anyone ever talk about a Ketchup Sandwich. I shit you not, my poor excuse of a baby sitter that I had when I was 4-5 would honestly make me toasted Ketchup Sandwiches when I was hungry.
Ate them all the time when I was young and poor lol
I thoroughly enjoyed this. thanks, gais
I could listen to these two for hours.
5:47 “I’ve seen that frequently” *side-eyes Mike* Man, Jared just won’t give Mike a break for sand bagging all the time 😂😂
I'd listen to this topic on a 3 hour podcast no problem
Want more of this!
Mike mentzer n Dorian ! Look em up
Dr. Mike - "Can you speak Derpa lerp?" Jared - Hold my protein shake.
Puts things into perspective, thanks sharing the chat
Thank you for another great video:)
When I got my nutrition cert it basically allows me to give info on nutrition and suggest maybe the best foods for certain goals, but unless you have a PhD in nutrition you can't tell someone exactly how to eat or how much to eat
Actually not a bad english accent, but I did hear a fair touch of scottish I reckon
Jared looks like an old school Soviet cartoon Cossack
Great insight!
Wow…interesting stuff.
You guys are awesome!!!
I am not an expert by any means, but I always thought that professional bodybuilders were on so many substances that they basically just have to go through the motions to progress. I.e., there isn't much magic to their diet or training (not to say, of course, that they don't diet and train hard).
Genetics too tho
Drugs are a gigantic advantage, don't get me wrong, but if you have dogshit training, diet, or sleep, you're pretty fucked. There are steroid cycle failures posted to reddit where some normie dumbass runs a huge dose of test while sitting on the couch gaming for a few months and sporadically going to curl or bench, and looks worse off. Still small but now with acne lol.
Used properly they're a 3x + multiplier with no ceiling outside your own survival tho
yeee
I train with slow eccentric and all that and always to failure in all that I do. I'm big but I just can't get to that next freakn level. Maybe it's my genetics. I am starting to eat more, I'm known as the guy who eats a lot. I have to eat about just over a gram per body weight. I'm gonna eat more carbs and just keep up and get a lill fatter for this winter and c where it takes me and use more honey and p butter for the calories.
this stuff is so interesting, good video
Thank you... Just thank you.,...
😂Yup, we need to know this. Thanl u for talking about this, esp. Listeners that are new to training and have been following genetic freaks and enhanced bodybuilders/Athletes.
This kinda content, me gusta!
Personally I'm not that interested in what an enhanced guy has to say about diet or training. Firstly, many of them are lying to their audience (or to themselves) about what's really causing their gains. Second even if they are honest, it's not as relevant to me as I'm not on roids and don't intend to ever be.
Yeah I would love the workout but not going to Michigan. Did that once. Everyone was miserable and was making me the same way.
Thanks for the great info and humor as always!
I had to think about Branch Warren the whole time. The walking definition of toxic masculinity on his social media. Dropping dumbells on the floor from the highest spot and thus wasting half a rep lol And the comment section seems to be a gold mine of cringe. Here's one "Hell yea !!! No one trains like this no more !!! But I do !!! Can’t no one keep up with this 51-year-old. Kids these days don’t have a dam clue". OKay Texas fitness business owner which I couldn't even find via Google after searching for the name and address and the link in your bio is the Yahoo! front page - good for you.
Effectively destroying the "**insert pro bodybuilder** trained this way and he won 16 Mr Olympias, his methods have to be the best!!" argument.
Your move, "Heavy Duty/High Intensity" bros.
Cope
@@neonbrigador3928 Don't care, the shit doesn't work.
The Mike Mentzer crowd is hilarious. The guy used up to 3g of deca per week alone. Unless his followers are willing to do that for the majority of their training career.....good luck.
@@nomad9584 Exactly. Mike could have built the same physique training however he liked, high volume or high intensity wouldn't matter. He just had programs/books to sell
Funny how idiots still follow the teachings of Mentzer, a meth head, who interestengly started plugging his 'heavy duty' shit more when he was off his tits.
Mike is hilarious!!
I'd like to see skits@
Jordan Peters about this " hold my beer"
I watch for the comedy but I learn a tiny bit too 😂
Wouldn’t enhanced folks want to avoid training close to failure anyway? Doesn’t it just increase risk of injury exponentially at that point?
ye the jointz
Yo boi, tha accench is greih
Finally a real take. Drugs and genetics do most the work
It’s all genetics and juice, fucking knew it!
To sum it up, if you have average or worse genetics you could be busting your balls in the gym for years and still not see the results of someone more "gifted", enhanced or not just going thru the motions.
British person here, and I can confirm you have an accent
What part of Missouri I'm in Springfield lol
I live in Livonia mi I would like to get educated on my training from RP
Come for the humor, stay for the knowledge 😏
Not trying to be a dick at all, just a genuine question. Since you are alluding to ifbb pros not training hard enough/to failure, and ifbb pros are already pretty frikkin huge, how much more huge would they be if they did go to failure more. And further, both of you are also on gear and arent anywhere near as big as many of these ifbb pros, even though you do train to failure more. This isnt a jab at you, I agree ifbb pros generally dont know that much shit about training and nutrition, and I have learnt a lot from you too, but just curiousity.
great vid
The Shed but in smaller size, and built in the USSR from standard parts.
up to recently I HAVE been going to failure every set and i did that for 6 months. I quit doing that though, i got burned out quick.
Where at in Michigan?
It's kind of crazy how litigious the US is that you can't even give someone a specific diet without a degree. Are people dying in droves from specific quantities of oatmeal?
You were in Michigan? Me too where are you?
What’s crazy is if you travel 50 miles in any direction in England you will encounter a very different accent. There is no one English accent let alone British accent. However, Dr. Mike, your British accent is sadly not anything like any of them hahaha!
I have a question, please someone HELP ME!: even if you because of your genetics don't put a lot of muscle but still train hard and eat well, from a health standpoint, do you can obtain the same health benefits training with weights compared to those who put a lot of muscle or not?
Because I like gym, but I lack great genetics, and I don't mind too much it, but as long as I can obtain health benetifs I'll keep going. But if I can obtain the same health benefits with just a sport like soccer...
yes
Play soccer.
Bodybuilders usually are destroying their health, you don't even want that level of health "benefit" lol. Do the best you can for your own health, don't worry about what us dumbasses are doing, and your longevity and health span will thank you
@@muscularclassrepresentativ5663 Exactly you just need a little bit more muscle mass than normal to improve metabolic health and increase injury prevention.
Everyone should lift weights, muscle atrophying is a huge danger as you get older and lifting weights will massively reduce your risk of injury in any physical activity. That being said, you'll be totally fine doing something like lifting twice a week and spending the rest of your time playing sport (because cardio is very very important for health, too) - or splitting it into phases and lifting three months a year or something like that. If you lift for health, 1 day of lifting per week should give you like 80-90% of the health benefit.
I'm a newbie lifter (since August) and 3x a week I train for 2-3 hours and take every set to failure and sometimes take a few breaths and pump out a few more. (I take 5-10 minutes between sets to recover). I do 7 exercises currently, but only 2 legs - squats and leg curl.
I'm getting decent results, but am I doing it wrong?
Plenty will tell you 2_3 hours is way too long. Can't exactly say they are wrong. Fullbody? I'd do what I did n superset things aka run back n forth. Though i wouldn't couple 2 very taxing things. Not legpress+ bench but bench + calves. Filling the rest of one Bodypart with something else. Ain't saying that's optimal but it shortens the workout.
5_10 minutes is too much. Try 1.5_3
The women train harder than the men… let’s face it
I wish these guys would get to the point sooner
HAHAHA! Thanks!
This is too short, should be at least 45min
Does Mike use gear... I need to know.
I do that