I hate how over complicated and bad the new champion kit design has been for the past few year, i wish they could really take their time in making good champion instead of having to do changes last minute and rushing the champions .
Eu avisei sobre os problemas do Caspian no grupo Paladins Brasil cerca de 1 mês antes de todos perceberem que o campeão estava quebrado e sugeri que deveríamos estar pedindo nerfs pra ele imediatamente, geral me tratou como macaco dizendo que ele era um esgoto, que eu era low elo e não sabia do que tava falando, que ele era campão de jogador casual, etc. Nunca me senti tão satisfeito quanto quando começaram a chover posts no grupo reclamando da força do Caspian e ele se tornou pick ou ban no competitivo, geral queimando a lingua por ser muito mente fechada pra sequer testar o champ novo.
speak english ffs, entitled brazilians always expect people tco understand them. Have some respect, if the youtuber speaks english, you only speak english
Boneco é o famoso "jack of all trades, master of all" Tem dano explosivo, dano por segundo, mobilidade, cc, cura Nerf urgente, negocio ta a mais de mês sendo ban obrigatório em ranked
He deleted me once within his stun duration when I was Cassie, he did around 2.7k lol. Funny part is after the match(still won that match thou) I went to check his kit and I was looking at the dmg section, yeah i thought he was a dmg champ at first because how he can just deletes you quickly.
As someone who's played him since launch I thought very little of him and I felt a strong potential in his kit, especially his damage. I'm honestly irritated how long it took people to realize how good this champ was and yeah as an enjoyer I would disagree to nerfs at first glance. When you said max "Finer Things" gives him the fastest walk speed I had to double take. I don't enjoy playing cadence because it feels smooth brain as fuck and honestly you could just use gun and still get penta's. I agree with the changes you suggested, nerfing the spd card and on hit procs to only work on champs. While I'm fine with taking stacks out of the equation I feel like it'll never happen because to me he feels dry without a mechanic like that. This video was pretty informative about the things that make him a problem, my only hope is that they don't go too hard toning him down and just fix those issues
Keep in mind the only other champions who gain movement speed on hitting enemies, Vora and Bk, the maw's embrace goes up to 22% and shock and awe goes up to 15%. Caspian's 60% is ridiculous and unheard of. Combined with the fact that you can gain it off of anything and not just hitting people is too much
casp make no sense versus mobile champions like vii that will become strongest after air control buffs cas most people cant understand that vii can use one hook and dash to fly from his own spawn to enemies and also can shoot himself in air and its not all. there is 2 map where roof have hitbox and vii become spider man. u can actually just hang in air and kill most non snipers in 1v1 cas his minimal damage is 155 per shots and he shoot 4 bullet. tayra even with marking talent cant do anything to him. casp is broken against champs who have no mobility but still cant do anything vs vii cas he cant shoot him vs non hitscan.removing stacks is interesting idea but making his projectails slower make casp useless. best option is removing stacks and all his abilities is work like when he have 3 stacks cas non stack casp is most unplayable champion in flank class where he has no defence abilities and no movements abilities. removing his only working first talent will make him like skye, high damage per second but he can be deleted from game with any champion with hitscan. his damage is very high actually. but remember lex do 1.1k damage with headshots with 3 talent. andro has so much interesting cards that make godslayer better than cursed revolver cas reversal make 800 damage plus he has card that reduce reversal cooldown after every hits in enemy with revolver. and with card that reduce cooldown of dashes after every hits enemy with reversal make andro super strong with higher mobility. i dont even talk about vatu that need only 2 shots kunai and bombs to kill any champion with 2200 hp or less. only thing that casp without stacks can do to this flanks is stun. that is slowest sh i ever saw. and removing his stun speed make him babe who fight with hulk
Asking for Caspian nerfs when Andro kimessa and term are still extremely busted is crazy. Andro is a hitscan Damage with flank mobility. Caspian has DPS worse than healers till he gets stacks,isn't hitscan and has poor mobility. He has 1 talent. He honestly needs buffs.
@@Kreepers Why did you complain about release Vora being op when Buck, Lex, Talus, Koga, Zhin, Andro and a couple others were still better than her (at least on console)? Even right now, Caspian, Vaatu, VII and all the other flanks mentioned above are better than release Vora so idk what you were getting at.
@@themonsterwithin4000 Released vora had a bug for her ult that allowed her to insta kill which was a bug, and the immortality on her ult was unfair. Dealing with backline vora before was super frustrating. So yeah, that's what I am getting at. I know that right now she is harder, but she is still good, and on console too where projectile champs if played correctly will be better than most hitscans. It requires practice and training. Nothing else. Also I'm a vora main, so I would know what I'm talking about x)
At the start of the last pts, i saw Caspian getting a nerf in his movement speed card lasting only 1 second, i dont know if this is coming to live servers
Before I watch this. I just wanna say that his shield card (Shoot and Dash) is super busted with Measured Cadence+Casual Competency. 1k shielding whenever you stop shooting is. just. annoying.
My problem with caspian is, it you are not a tank, he explodes you With you are a tank, e dances around and explode you a little slow Caspian can solo evaporates a 6k life yagorath in seconds
Capian has one of the worse movement ability’s in the game and you’re complaining about it lol. Skill issue, caspian is fine as he is. He’s not OP it’s just that a lot of people who play caspian know what they are doing on the champion he’s like genji from overwatch, a balanced hero but in the right hands can feel oppressive.
From what I can tell Caspian is very card dependent and only has 1 play style without that 1 card set up and 1 talent he's not OP actually he'd need buffs to compensate
And I already said that it is too much and me and a bunch of others are talking with the devs to fix it. I don't care if people didn't want him nerfed. He needed the nerf, end of story. No champion should be using shields and deployables to trigger cards. And if others can't, so shouldn't he. But they nerfed him in the wrong place so no... It isn't congrats.
He suffers the same problem as all recent characters in this game... They feel bloated. It feels like the dev have forgotten that Paladins already has an interesting "build" system, with the cards, the three talents and the shop, and created their character as if we were playing Overwatch, where a character just has one kit and you have to make it as interesting as possible. It is sad, really because you end up with characters that are mostly played one way, with one talent and one build that end up being the more efficient or that take advantage of a broken feat of the bloated kit...
the real issue is the talents... and , as you said the stacks mechanics, so: why not just change the talent so that instead, it would be: "any hit with love or war on an enemy reduce current cooldown of rogue's tempo by 1sec" you would require to use the rogue's tempo ability, it wouldn't be a free one passive, and all the card's synergy procing from basic attack' mini RT wouldn't be there anymore. and I agree that the stack mechanics should be remove or inversed... let's make him start with 5 stacks each and loose those has he attack (hit and miss) that would make him a flank... which would burst on the begining bu then would be slow and need to recover his stacks... thuse be weaker... as a fencer it make more sense as fencers are bursty and fast but eventually you grow tired so slow down... that would make more sense... so again that mesured cadence talent would also reduce your amount of charge for deadly momentum by 1 (so only 1 charge) and you would start with zero stack and need to build those as it is currently... but every attack would reduce the CD of rogue's tempo... see... it balance out better that way, and you can get either gameplay... a flank or a damage.
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The problem of new champions of palains is Evil Mojo wants to insert skills and passives that aren't functional to the game and the result is broken champions with terrible mechanics.
Caspian is not good in the hands of someone who hasn't mastered his kit; he might need some adjustments, like many other champions (I believe we are forgetting who really is the fuc(kasum)ing problem in the game), but he can only be played with a single playstyle right now and the changes that have been proposed in this video imho would straight up kill him.
I appreciate the feedback. although I hope you understand, that like I mentioned in the video, some of these changes would also have buffs to counter and possibly some reworks here and there. he is a snowball glass Canon and does too much damage for a flank tbh. but I would not want to kill him at all. I like caspian
@@Kreepers Yup, I do understand that! In fact I liked some of the changes you proposed, but... Idk, I really feel like for example without stacks he wouldn't feel as unique ad he does now. Maybe it's just my impression, don't get me wrong, I'm not playing pro level nor watching that kind of matches in any way, so perhaps this is a reason why my view may be flawed
People called Caspian trash the whole time I was running lobbies, them he got buffed and i hit masters with only using Caspian as I continued to see people say Caspian still isnt good and now one TH-camr makes a video saying he needs a nerf and now the whole community will say nerf him lol This community doesnt know wtf they're talking about half the time and its prob half the reason this dam game cant get balanced lol
i always knew since last year hss been an insta ban on ranked hope he and kasumi receive proper nerfs the following months, they need to realise this is crucial for the health of the game.
Placement is key as he has to get up close to do high burst damage often putting you into bad positions he is countered heavily by cripple as his movement ability is probably one of the worst in the flank case
Without Stun he struggles to kill though. I've seen the squishyest champions survive against him even with max stats especially early game where Caut is low. Tho him having the stun, is basically the only thing that makes his Q not suck. if you wanna quickly build up stacks without Casual Competency card, you have to rely on that slow projectile, that can miss from a meter away. It'd be fine if they removed the stun, but made the shot much faster. that way it could be used similarly to Maeve's Q, to use as a fallback. In case of Caspian it would be a nice stack charge, so he wouldnt suck for the begining of a fight.
Just more proof to me that they don't really play their own game that much! Also Caspian is not that good with a controller! AIMING STRAIGHT SUCKS WITH HIM WITH A CONTROLLER! Caspian is a keyboard and mouse main!
@@iouplayyy9191 Running in more than one champion and dying is most case scenarios for all the champion Also he has no mobility not mentioning his buggy ahh dash thing or whatever Getting stacks off of deployables and players Holding w on people Hoping you dont die Is skill now?
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I hate how over complicated and bad the new champion kit design has been for the past few year, i wish they could really take their time in making good champion instead of having to do changes last minute and rushing the champions .
He went from nobody playing him to he’s op. Kind of shows how even when a character seems weak they can be op if played well.
no it's that everyone else has been nerfed
You're right, he needs some balance changes
I like the stacks and how they can snow ball but yeah medium out the speed for rouges tempo
me when i get bullied by a caspian
Eu avisei sobre os problemas do Caspian no grupo Paladins Brasil cerca de 1 mês antes de todos perceberem que o campeão estava quebrado e sugeri que deveríamos estar pedindo nerfs pra ele imediatamente, geral me tratou como macaco dizendo que ele era um esgoto, que eu era low elo e não sabia do que tava falando, que ele era campão de jogador casual, etc. Nunca me senti tão satisfeito quanto quando começaram a chover posts no grupo reclamando da força do Caspian e ele se tornou pick ou ban no competitivo, geral queimando a lingua por ser muito mente fechada pra sequer testar o champ novo.
speak english ffs, entitled brazilians always expect people tco understand them. Have some respect, if the youtuber speaks english, you only speak english
Boneco é o famoso "jack of all trades, master of all"
Tem dano explosivo, dano por segundo, mobilidade, cc, cura
Nerf urgente, negocio ta a mais de mês sendo ban obrigatório em ranked
Nope, leave him as is. We have to go against Tyra, Vic,Viv, Moji,etc
@@BlackWolf_Yasuke Based on those list of characters you’re complaining about, I can tell you’re bad.
@The monster Within Not complaining just telling you my constant match up.. Not bad at all
He deleted me once within his stun duration when I was Cassie, he did around 2.7k lol. Funny part is after the match(still won that match thou) I went to check his kit and I was looking at the dmg section, yeah i thought he was a dmg champ at first because how he can just deletes you quickly.
Cashpian?
Moneypian
As someone who's played him since launch I thought very little of him and I felt a strong potential in his kit, especially his damage. I'm honestly irritated how long it took people to realize how good this champ was and yeah as an enjoyer I would disagree to nerfs at first glance. When you said max "Finer Things" gives him the fastest walk speed I had to double take. I don't enjoy playing cadence because it feels smooth brain as fuck and honestly you could just use gun and still get penta's. I agree with the changes you suggested, nerfing the spd card and on hit procs to only work on champs. While I'm fine with taking stacks out of the equation I feel like it'll never happen because to me he feels dry without a mechanic like that. This video was pretty informative about the things that make him a problem, my only hope is that they don't go too hard toning him down and just fix those issues
Keep in mind the only other champions who gain movement speed on hitting enemies, Vora and Bk, the maw's embrace goes up to 22% and shock and awe goes up to 15%. Caspian's 60% is ridiculous and unheard of. Combined with the fact that you can gain it off of anything and not just hitting people is too much
Bk speed buff stacks
@@irishrOOkin So does caspian's. With diminishing returns, but it stacks as well
@@irishrOOkin That’s why I think my girl Vora needs that speed increase card and other things buffed.
Do agree that the stack mechanic was needlessly complicating to his design.
I just noticed that Caspian's card for ammo no longer works on shields. Another one of hirez's balance changes not listed in the patch notes.
_Reduce the cooldown of Healing Potion by 0.1 seconds for each enemy hit with Potion Launcher._ 😭
send this to hi rez, they must watch all the video and fix this shit
casp make no sense versus mobile champions like vii that will become strongest after air control buffs cas most people cant understand that vii can use one hook and dash to fly from his own spawn to enemies and also can shoot himself in air and its not all. there is 2 map where roof have hitbox and vii become spider man. u can actually just hang in air and kill most non snipers in 1v1 cas his minimal damage is 155 per shots and he shoot 4 bullet. tayra even with marking talent cant do anything to him. casp is broken against champs who have no mobility but still cant do anything vs vii cas he cant shoot him vs non hitscan.removing stacks is interesting idea but making his projectails slower make casp useless. best option is removing stacks and all his abilities is work like when he have 3 stacks cas non stack casp is most unplayable champion in flank class where he has no defence abilities and no movements abilities. removing his only working first talent will make him like skye, high damage per second but he can be deleted from game with any champion with hitscan. his damage is very high actually. but remember lex do 1.1k damage with headshots with 3 talent. andro has so much interesting cards that make godslayer better than cursed revolver cas reversal make 800 damage plus he has card that reduce reversal cooldown after every hits in enemy with revolver. and with card that reduce cooldown of dashes after every hits enemy with reversal make andro super strong with higher mobility. i dont even talk about vatu that need only 2 shots kunai and bombs to kill any champion with 2200 hp or less. only thing that casp without stacks can do to this flanks is stun. that is slowest sh i ever saw. and removing his stun speed make him babe who fight with hulk
Asking for Caspian nerfs when Andro kimessa and term are still extremely busted is crazy. Andro is a hitscan Damage with flank mobility. Caspian has DPS worse than healers till he gets stacks,isn't hitscan and has poor mobility. He has 1 talent. He honestly needs buffs.
"if this not a damage in disguise I don't know what is" Andro Vii don't come to mind?
yh, but cursed revolver is going away, so at least thats a good way to dimishing his existance without killing him
@@Kreepers Why did you complain about release Vora being op when Buck, Lex, Talus, Koga, Zhin, Andro and a couple others were still better than her (at least on console)? Even right now, Caspian, Vaatu, VII and all the other flanks mentioned above are better than release Vora so idk what you were getting at.
@@themonsterwithin4000 Released vora had a bug for her ult that allowed her to insta kill which was a bug, and the immortality on her ult was unfair. Dealing with backline vora before was super frustrating. So yeah, that's what I am getting at. I know that right now she is harder, but she is still good, and on console too where projectile champs if played correctly will be better than most hitscans. It requires practice and training. Nothing else. Also I'm a vora main, so I would know what I'm talking about x)
I enjoy playin him never really noticed this cause I’m kinda a new player but taking the stacks out would make him feel a lot better
At the start of the last pts, i saw Caspian getting a nerf in his movement speed card lasting only 1 second, i dont know if this is coming to live servers
I think he is very strong but right now i just think yagorath needs a buff rn
Before I watch this. I just wanna say that his shield card (Shoot and Dash) is super busted with Measured Cadence+Casual Competency. 1k shielding whenever you stop shooting is. just. annoying.
When they buffed him from only having one card work with rouges tempo to 4 💀
Only need nerf card speed move is ultra broke, auto combo 900-800, nerf dmg the stun is 750 - 450.
My problem with caspian is, it you are not a tank, he explodes you
With you are a tank, e dances around and explode you a little slow
Caspian can solo evaporates a 6k life yagorath in seconds
Yup. I love bursting down tanks that don't have shields. If you have your speed, they can't reliably hit you
what is the difference between flank and damage?
Caspian usage after this vid 📈📈
caspian itself was a mistake💀
tbh 2022 was a year of truly bloated champion kits.
Capian has one of the worse movement ability’s in the game and you’re complaining about it lol.
Skill issue, caspian is fine as he is. He’s not OP it’s just that a lot of people who play caspian know what they are doing on the champion he’s like genji from overwatch, a balanced hero but in the right hands can feel oppressive.
yet he is showing everything in firing range lol
From what I can tell Caspian is very card dependent and only has 1 play style without that 1 card set up and 1 talent he's not OP actually he'd need buffs to compensate
14:48 OMG! OMG! OMG!...
Well congrats they are gutting Caspian to be unplayable.
And I already said that it is too much and me and a bunch of others are talking with the devs to fix it. I don't care if people didn't want him nerfed. He needed the nerf, end of story. No champion should be using shields and deployables to trigger cards. And if others can't, so shouldn't he. But they nerfed him in the wrong place so no... It isn't congrats.
He suffers the same problem as all recent characters in this game... They feel bloated.
It feels like the dev have forgotten that Paladins already has an interesting "build" system, with the cards, the three talents and the shop, and created their character as if we were playing Overwatch, where a character just has one kit and you have to make it as interesting as possible. It is sad, really because you end up with characters that are mostly played one way, with one talent and one build that end up being the more efficient or that take advantage of a broken feat of the bloated kit...
the real issue is the talents... and , as you said the stacks mechanics, so:
why not just change the talent so that instead, it would be:
"any hit with love or war on an enemy reduce current cooldown of rogue's tempo by 1sec"
you would require to use the rogue's tempo ability, it wouldn't be a free one passive,
and all the card's synergy procing from basic attack' mini RT wouldn't be there anymore.
and I agree that the stack mechanics should be remove or inversed...
let's make him start with 5 stacks each and loose those has he attack (hit and miss) that would make him a flank... which would burst on the begining bu then would be slow and need to recover his stacks... thuse be weaker... as a fencer it make more sense as fencers are bursty and fast but eventually you grow tired so slow down...
that would make more sense...
so again that mesured cadence talent would also reduce your amount of charge for deadly momentum by 1 (so only 1 charge)
and you would start with zero stack and need to build those as it is currently... but every attack would reduce the CD of rogue's tempo...
see... it balance out better that way, and you can get either gameplay... a flank or a damage.
wow that looks CRAZY
I tried it, its fucking busted loooool, got 3 quadra kills in one match, yes, he has literally everything
Hey kreepers off topic but can u please tell if i still can get aspirant jenos? please answer!! ty
if you watched for the 4 hours and collected it during the season 6 showcase, then yes.
if not, then there is no more chances for now. I did a video on how to fix the skin not coming to your account in case that u did collect it btw
@@Kreepers aww okay ty
The problem of new champions of palains is Evil Mojo wants to insert skills and passives that aren't functional to the game and the result is broken champions with terrible mechanics.
Caspian is not good in the hands of someone who hasn't mastered his kit; he might need some adjustments, like many other champions (I believe we are forgetting who really is the fuc(kasum)ing problem in the game), but he can only be played with a single playstyle right now and the changes that have been proposed in this video imho would straight up kill him.
I appreciate the feedback. although I hope you understand, that like I mentioned in the video, some of these changes would also have buffs to counter and possibly some reworks here and there. he is a snowball glass Canon and does too much damage for a flank tbh. but I would not want to kill him at all. I like caspian
@@Kreepers Yup, I do understand that! In fact I liked some of the changes you proposed, but... Idk, I really feel like for example without stacks he wouldn't feel as unique ad he does now. Maybe it's just my impression, don't get me wrong, I'm not playing pro level nor watching that kind of matches in any way, so perhaps this is a reason why my view may be flawed
Caspian only good with measured cadence. He feels like trash with the other talents
People called Caspian trash the whole time I was running lobbies, them he got buffed and i hit masters with only using Caspian as I continued to see people say Caspian still isnt good and now one TH-camr makes a video saying he needs a nerf and now the whole community will say nerf him lol
This community doesnt know wtf they're talking about half the time and its prob half the reason this dam game cant get balanced lol
i always knew since last year hss been an insta ban on ranked hope he and kasumi receive proper nerfs the following months, they need to realise this is crucial for the health of the game.
i agree
Cashpian
moneypian
he takes no skill
I disagree
What? No. That's false
Placement is key as he has to get up close to do high burst damage often putting you into bad positions he is countered heavily by cripple as his movement ability is probably one of the worst in the flank case
False
Watch the low elo players get offended 😂
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Fixed it for ya!
real (i am bad)
They need to remove his stun
Without Stun he struggles to kill though. I've seen the squishyest champions survive against him even with max stats especially early game where Caut is low. Tho him having the stun, is basically the only thing that makes his Q not suck. if you wanna quickly build up stacks without Casual Competency card, you have to rely on that slow projectile, that can miss from a meter away.
It'd be fine if they removed the stun, but made the shot much faster. that way it could be used similarly to Maeve's Q, to use as a fallback. In case of Caspian it would be a nice stack charge, so he wouldnt suck for the begining of a fight.
Why do you pronounce his name like it's Cashpian?
Cuz I ain't English 😁
I feel like kasumi needs nerfs
She is gonna get a very big nerf in the next update, she doesnt have auto aim anymore
Just more proof to me that they don't really play their own game that much!
Also Caspian is not that good with a controller! AIMING STRAIGHT SUCKS WITH HIM WITH A CONTROLLER! Caspian is a keyboard and mouse main!
He takes no skill
Hes a glass cannon
Kasumi is no skill, caspian still need skills to win
@@T.K.F.
What skill?
@@punnyqt hitting shots to get the speed buff to go in and hope you don't dive into anymore then one champ because if you do your done
@@iouplayyy9191
Running in more than one champion and dying is most case scenarios for all the champion
Also he has no mobility not mentioning his buggy ahh dash thing or whatever
Getting stacks off of deployables and players
Holding w on people
Hoping you dont die
Is skill now?