@@malcolmjamesturnerIt’s ALL the Turkish made models - and ALL of those were previously Home Office approved… I don’t think the direction of venting makes any difference (front venting has been banned for many years, for the most ridiculous of reasons). Blank firers made by Italian company, Bruni, are not included in this ban (these are the predominantly orange painted ones that are still up on some suppliers websites) I’m not sure exactly what makes these ones ok - or why the Turkish manufactures have not been given the opportunity to rectify this situation by redesigning their models? As the (presumably convertible) barrels in these guns are an integral part of the lower frame, it should be possible to swap this part for a new one, so that only half the gun needs to be surrendered. This is obviously too sensible an option. An overnight ban, with no compensation, will achieve nothing! It will potentially criminalise thousands of owners of such guns, at the stroke of a pen - and for unscrupulous owners to recoup their loss by selling the gun to those who will convert them, likely for a premium, once legitimate supply ends!
@Rob-H I get it tho mate, if it's that easy to do, it's the right thing. Not thar it stops people getting other things. I once brought a new work van and got offered a glock 22 at the same time.. like it was normal conversation or something 🤔
@@Replica-Airgun-Lovers I disagree. It’s not the right thing to do - it’s an undemocratic, draconian, knee-jerk reaction to a problem that should be tackled from a different direction. After they banned most handguns (after Dunblane and Hungerford) a guy in Ireland took an empty fire extinguisher, filled it with petrol, re-pressurised it - and went on a rampage! So, would banning fire extinguishers prevent further occurrences? Or maybe ban petrol? It’s a nonsense. The UK has been eroding firearm possession since the early 1900’s. The government at the time were so shit-scared of there being an armed revolution (like had occurred in Russia) that they started to pick away at civilian rights to bear arms (this is why the US has their 2nd amendment!) It will NEVER stop, until every type of ‘weapon’ has been banned! You already need a license for an airgun in Scotland (and once your gun is ‘listed’ it can be taken away in the future) It’s only a matter of time. It will only take an airgun to be used in a terrorist attack, or something similar - and airguns will be GONE! 😢
You can keep the blanks but must hand over your blank firing gun to the police. That's like having your dog put down but keeping the collar & lead... Bloody POINTLESS 🤬🤬🤬🤬
My guess is this is to prevent our access to anything that could be converted. Like the knife ban this is to prevent anyone opposing their great reset plan. Crossbows next. I recently spoke to a FAC and shotgun licence holder who told me he will never relinquish them.
I find it crazy as if some one has the know how to convert a blank firing gun, they most likely would be able to use a 3d printer and a cnc macine. Whiuch defats the perpous of this
@@ARMSMASH The arrival of affordable 3D METAL printers (already in existence, but prohibitively expensive) is REALLY going to put the cat among the pigeons (like most technological innovations, the price will drop dramatically)! What will they ban then? Thoughts? Oh, hang on, they’re already trying to do that… 😱
The deactivated blank firers are ok. No ones getting my £300 chrome Colt. It also says top venting guns only. Side venting blank firers are ok. Stop panicking.
@@malcolmjamesturner I’m not quite sure what you mean by ‘deactivated’ blank firer? A ‘deactivated’ firearm CANNOT be converted to fire blanks. To do so would be regarded as ‘reactivation’. Any blank firing gun (such as a Sten or Grease Gun) has to be built from scratch, to very strict specifications (such as parts from a ‘real steel’ firearm not being interchangeable. The direction of venting (apart from forward, which has been banned since the 1980’s) is irrelevant - it’s the ease of conversion that is the issue.
@@LoremIpsum1970 The Turkish made blank gun range includes revolvers - and I’m pretty sure the ban is on ALL Turkish made blank guns - all of which would have received Home Office approval before being imported and offered for sale, how ever many years ago it was? (I’d guess at least 5, since I first saw them for sale)
Not all blank firers just those found to be convertible read the script on screen, 4 makes of Turkish made blank firing pistols that have been found to be converted.
@@Replica-Airgun-Lovers I’ve not seen Kimar listed yet (another Turkish manufacturer). Zoraki have been banned for years, due to ease of conversion - but all the others previously had Home Office approval, which is why I can’t understand the sudden change 😳
To put in a little more perspective, around 1100 lives to knives crime in 2024, around 1600 car accidents lives lost and 3 crossbow lives lots.. yet they are still OK..
Hopefully, these companies will come out with side venting models and maybe make the barrel in 2 sections to prevent conversion. I don't see it happening, but it would be cool.
It would be better if they was ordered to change the slide and hand them out to people rather than taking them away, buy that logic we shouldn't have knives, crossbow or cars as they account for a lot more.. ok crossbow only 3 people have been taken but it's only one less than the blanks. As I understood, it's more likely to explode in your hands than actually shoot a bullet
"The results showed they were readily convertible with common DIY tools without specialist skills" well that's just a crock of shite. They did the same ban some time ago with the old model Olympic 9mm Starting Guns -- though this only mentions TVBFs (pistols) - NOT cylinder venting revolvers. 4 killings in the last 2 years...yet knives... 🤔
@@angowT ALL Turkish made blank guns - Retay, Ekol, Ceonics and Blow (strangely not Kimar, but I’ll bet that’s just an error by NCA) are now banned (and illegal)! Most retailers have either removed them from online sites, or they all come up as ‘out of stock’ or ‘discontinued’. My local paintball/airsoft site has had to lock away all their stock, until then are informed what to do… I’ve only known about this for a little over a week, but will not make brash statements without doing some research first. My main concern here is the draconian way this has been imposed (particularly as all the affected models were originally Home Office approved) and the fact that crossbows and airguns will inevitably be next 😢
Given that the previously banned ‘Olympic .38’ eventually became available again, in a modified form - and that the rest of the Bruni models are ok (I’m pretty sure the Olympic .38 was from Bruni, or at least of Italian manufacturer) I hope the Turkish manufacturers can modify their models to comply in the same way. Unfortunately, the UK market is small although they have supplied top and side venting models for the UK (most of the rest of the world allows forward venting) Zoraki have never (to my knowledge) made any attempt to enter the UK market by changing their long-time banned models - but Retay, Ekol, etc already have a foothold (or at least their importer does - most likely SMK). I hope common sense can prevail, though I’m doubtful it will… 😢
It's existing law.Didn't you read it? The four maker's top venting pistols "...have been found to be illegal under section 1(6) of the FA 1982 meaning, thet are prohibited firearms under section 5(1) of the FA 1968" It's not ALL blank firing guns, just those pistols from those makers. They did the same with the old 8mm Olympic revolver as it was easily converted.
@@paulbirch6490 I read this "Top-venting blank firers (TVBFs) are legal to buy in the UK without a licence by over 18s unless they are readily convertible. In their original state they have a fully blocked barrel and are designed to discharge only blank cartridges. When discharged, combustion gases vent from the top of the weapon.24 Oct 2024" And as for Retay, I went on to 5 websites last night who are still selling them.
@@malcolmjamesturneryes, some stores have already removed them from stock, as for buying now, i guess some will continue to sell stock until 28 February 2025... On 1 March 2025 possession could give you up to 10 years... I have a Retay that's going to get binned...£100 down the drain...
It's the same with Airsoft guns and the UKARA (United Kingdom Airsoft Retailers Association) membership requirement. You need to provide a defence (You're a legitimate Airsoft skirmish player, reenactor etc) in order to be able to purchase Airsoft realistic imitation firearms (RIFs). Otherwise, 50% of the gun has to be painted in a bright colour like green, blue, orange etc. Yet many airgun companies are producing some of the same models in 4.5mm steel BB replica gun versions. Which can be purchased with just a form of photo ID like a passport or driving licence and something official with your name and address on it, like a bank statement. I hope they don't ban airgun replicas. But I for 1 would welcome a ban on crossbows. Or at least see a change in how they are sold to people. They can simply be bought online and sent through the normal postage couriers like Parcelforce etc. But airgun purchases can only be done via face to face with the retailer. Crossbows need to be sold in the same way. Even police background checks I would welcome. Because too many nutters are being able to get hold of weapons like these with no such checks whatsoever
There's one caveat to RIFS under VCRA...Replicas with a design and mechanism of a sort first dating before 1870 are exempt from the new UK laws (S.A.A. .45's are exempt). Most blank and airsoft RIFs are available off the shelf in two tone these days, just like blank firers are, you only need to declare DOB and you don't need to provide ID. What's probably going to cause problems in the future is obsolete calibre arms and live ammo will next on the list (though you can't be legally in posession of both at the same time!), you only need to be over 18 to own and purchase. As for crossbows, why not include bows as well? I'd rather hope they spend more time on knife crime than restricting crossbows, and if you want a glimpse into the future, there's one state in China that makes knives over 6" illegal unless your information is etched onto the blade... I'm guessing knives will be required to have dull rounded tips at some point...but an amnesty on kitchen knives would be interesting to see.
@@liammeech3702 They'll mostly be chambered in .38R - such as for cowboy/linedancing years ago - which are widely available with only an "I'm over 18" tickbox on checkout. Generally, the NC powder in blanks is too 'hot' to use for any other purpose. But if people want to have a face full of pieces of zinc, it's a lesson they won't repeat.
How has this got through with zero consultation? Looks like the ‘trade’ have willingly thrown owners of these guns to the wolves, probably in the hope that it will stop further actions. It WON’T - crossbows and airguns WILL be next 😢
Why would you need a consultation? They've been deemed illegal under current law, S1(6) of the FA 1982 and S5(1) of the FA 1968. What gets me is how if these can be converted in - I read somewhere - only 45 seconds, how have they been on open sale in the UK for years now? Don't the NCA test for that before they can be imported in the first place?????
@ As far as I’m aware , all the affected models had Home Office approval (unlike guns from Zoraki, another Turkish manufacturer). Normally, there would be a period of consultation before such draconian action. Hundreds of retailers have had to lock their stock away, prior to whatever will happen. Will they be returned to Turkey? Will they be destroyed?? Will the retailers be compensated?? I have close ties to a paintball/airsoft site who were selling the affected guns and also hiring them out to players, as a safer alternative to pyrotechnic ‘thunderflashes’. This decision will impact their business and I feel very sorry for them. If these guns were ‘that’ easy to convert (45 mins) they would NEVER have been granted Home Office approval in the first place (the reason the Zoraki models have never been available in the UK (or only briefly) is because they were deemed too easy to convert). Strangely, Italian made models by Bruni are not affected - and I’ve no idea why? Presumably, they must be harder to convert (but how long before they too are banned?). IMHO the whole thing smacks of a monumental cock-up by the Home Office 😱
Its acutlly kinda mad, Al ot of people are converting them but you can esstially do the same with a programamble cnc macnine. Only bit that is tricky is the ignition source which u can get. I dont think them banning them would do anyhting
No they won't ban them, but if you get searched and even with just the 3D models on your computer and they can prove you have intent to manufacturer you're basically fked. It's best to stick to stuff that's legal in the long run.
@derekwngreen I may have heard the revolver is ok but honestly I would look it up and find out. You only have until to 26th of this month to hand them over
@@AdamMcCool-01 jeesus an I though I was an idiot 😂 that's a collection alright I've only been at it 3 years 🤦♂️ since I was fucked up and can't work, had to find a hobby spent most summer in hospital so this year's been a bit lamo like. That is a collection I would love to see though buddy 🙏😁
@bmanrobinson4532 just goes to show they know what you have. I was told by a few people they got emails through telling them to and thm in, they can have mine but not the blanks or its case or cleaning kit and oil 🤣 I'm in Thailand till February anyway so they can wait haha
We aren't EU mate and nothing, if you use a paperclip in the wrong way it's an offence.. you use your fist or within reason you can use a weapon, that's like, out numbered and having no other option to protect yourself and family with reasonable force
You can use proportional force, use what you like just keep it proportional and don't carry anything for the purpose of self-defense as that is illegal in the UK
@ifv2089 I always wonder why we never cover defence in the law, it's an offensive weapon that's the issue, but they never talk about defence. In theory you could still use a shield 😅
@@Replica-Airgun-Lovers I’m guessing they have absolutely NO idea how many are out there (they’ve been available for many years, so it must be THOUSANDS - or who has them? I can see it driving many of them underground - or even being sold to the scum who convert them, at a premium 😱
@@peterrat100 Stupid statement! Dog training, firearm familiarisation, re-enactment and film work (my field) are just a few reasons to want a blank firing gun! Just because you don’t want one, please don’t speak for others.
Side-venting blank guns. These guns are legal to buy for anyone over 18, unless they are readily convertible. They are designed to only discharge blank cartridges and have a fully blocked barrel in their original state.
You're missing the point. It doesn't matter whether you personally see the point of them. The fact is that the government is confiscating property from law-abiding people. Besides, there are legitimate reasons to have replicas. I used to have quite a collection of them, because I am interested in the history of firearms. I didn't think I was a gangster lol
@@YrCleddyf I currently have my eye on a blank firing M3 ‘Grease gun’. It’s second hand, rather rough and £500! There’s also a Sten available - £1500 (new)! These are custom built from scratch, under strict conditions (so that parts are not interchangeable with ‘real steel’ versions). I do SFX for films, etc - so for me, this would be a business investment - though I’m very concerned that somewhere down the line, these will also be banned and I’d lose my investment 😢
Most productive video I have uploaded in months with 1100 views over night, youtube isn't allowing monetization 😢
Yeah, that'll stop the criminals.
You know don't you.. always been the same here
Yeah all gun crime has now ended in UK 🇬🇧 fantastic
Yeah, sure that will stop the criminals 😂
It's all rubbish. It's only top venting guns that will be banned. All others like Retay and two toned will still be legal.
@@malcolmjamesturnerIt’s ALL the Turkish made models - and ALL of those were previously Home Office approved… I don’t think the direction of venting makes any difference (front venting has been banned for many years, for the most ridiculous of reasons). Blank firers made by Italian company, Bruni, are not included in this ban (these are the predominantly orange painted ones that are still up on some suppliers websites) I’m not sure exactly what makes these ones ok - or why the Turkish manufactures have not been given the opportunity to rectify this situation by redesigning their models? As the (presumably convertible) barrels in these guns are an integral part of the lower frame, it should be possible to swap this part for a new one, so that only half the gun needs to be surrendered. This is obviously too sensible an option. An overnight ban, with no compensation, will achieve nothing! It will potentially criminalise thousands of owners of such guns, at the stroke of a pen - and for unscrupulous owners to recoup their loss by selling the gun to those who will convert them, likely for a premium, once legitimate supply ends!
I am expecting sticks and stones to be banned soon as well as the commonly used house brick or glass bottle.
Wonderful! But it is much worse than that! Words shared online, even prayers to the Lord our God are illegal now!
I have a self loading garden fork. Do I need a licence for it ?
@@billienomates1606 won't be long
The Nanny state stranglehold continues.
@Rob-H I get it tho mate, if it's that easy to do, it's the right thing. Not thar it stops people getting other things. I once brought a new work van and got offered a glock 22 at the same time.. like it was normal conversation or something 🤔
@@Replica-Airgun-Lovers I disagree. It’s not the right thing to do - it’s an undemocratic, draconian, knee-jerk reaction to a problem that should be tackled from a different direction. After they banned most handguns (after Dunblane and Hungerford) a guy in Ireland took an empty fire extinguisher, filled it with petrol, re-pressurised it - and went on a rampage! So, would banning fire extinguishers prevent further occurrences? Or maybe ban petrol? It’s a nonsense. The UK has been eroding firearm possession since the early 1900’s. The government at the time were so shit-scared of there being an armed revolution (like had occurred in Russia) that they started to pick away at civilian rights to bear arms (this is why the US has their 2nd amendment!) It will NEVER stop, until every type of ‘weapon’ has been banned! You already need a license for an airgun in Scotland (and once your gun is ‘listed’ it can be taken away in the future) It’s only a matter of time. It will only take an airgun to be used in a terrorist attack, or something similar - and airguns will be GONE! 😢
You can keep the blanks but must hand over your blank firing gun to the police. That's like having your dog put down but keeping the collar & lead... Bloody POINTLESS 🤬🤬🤬🤬
The other way round would make more sense
Can't defend family so can't defend country
with a blank gun?
@@andyf4292 Or even a blank look…. 😳
My guess is this is to prevent our access to anything that could be converted. Like the knife ban this is to prevent anyone opposing their great reset plan. Crossbows next. I recently spoke to a FAC and shotgun licence holder who told me he will never relinquish them.
Seems that way mate, I can only hope it's nothing like in the movies, rich living a nice life then the rest of us living in wasteland
I find it crazy as if some one has the know how to convert a blank firing gun, they most likely would be able to use a 3d printer and a cnc macine. Whiuch defats the perpous of this
@ARMSMASH there won't be any ammunition to convert either?
@ashleystyles6888 I'm pretty sure thars OK, there is not mention if it
@@ARMSMASH The arrival of affordable 3D METAL printers (already in existence, but prohibitively expensive) is REALLY going to put the cat among the pigeons (like most technological innovations, the price will drop dramatically)! What will they ban then? Thoughts? Oh, hang on, they’re already trying to do that… 😱
The deactivated blank firers are ok. No ones getting my £300 chrome Colt. It also says top venting guns only. Side venting blank firers are ok. Stop panicking.
@@malcolmjamesturner I’m not quite sure what you mean by ‘deactivated’ blank firer? A ‘deactivated’ firearm CANNOT be converted to fire blanks. To do so would be regarded as ‘reactivation’. Any blank firing gun (such as a Sten or Grease Gun) has to be built from scratch, to very strict specifications (such as parts from a ‘real steel’ firearm not being interchangeable. The direction of venting (apart from forward, which has been banned since the 1980’s) is irrelevant - it’s the ease of conversion that is the issue.
@paulbirch6490 I was replying to what something someone else said. Anyway, my blank guns stay here with me.
Pistols not Revolvers. And Bruni Pistols are still legal.
@@LoremIpsum1970 The Turkish made blank gun range includes revolvers - and I’m pretty sure the ban is on ALL Turkish made blank guns - all of which would have received Home Office approval before being imported and offered for sale, how ever many years ago it was? (I’d guess at least 5, since I first saw them for sale)
@@paulbirch6490if you haven’t converted it then there shouldn’t be a problem tbh
Not all blank firers just those found to be convertible read the script on screen, 4 makes of Turkish made blank firing pistols that have been found to be converted.
Yeah it's mainly to 4 types mentioned in the text mate, ekol, retay and a couple of other Turkish ones
@@Replica-Airgun-Lovers I’ve not seen Kimar listed yet (another Turkish manufacturer). Zoraki have been banned for years, due to ease of conversion - but all the others previously had Home Office approval, which is why I can’t understand the sudden change 😳
The knife ban has also worked well in cutting crime has`nt it !!!!!
To put in a little more perspective, around 1100 lives to knives crime in 2024, around 1600 car accidents lives lost and 3 crossbow lives lots.. yet they are still OK..
Hopefully, these companies will come out with side venting models and maybe make the barrel in 2 sections to prevent conversion. I don't see it happening, but it would be cool.
It would be better if they was ordered to change the slide and hand them out to people rather than taking them away, buy that logic we shouldn't have knives, crossbow or cars as they account for a lot more.. ok crossbow only 3 people have been taken but it's only one less than the blanks. As I understood, it's more likely to explode in your hands than actually shoot a bullet
"The results showed they were readily convertible with common DIY tools without specialist skills" well that's just a crock of shite. They did the same ban some time ago with the old model Olympic 9mm Starting Guns -- though this only mentions TVBFs (pistols) - NOT cylinder venting revolvers. 4 killings in the last 2 years...yet knives... 🤔
Blank firing guns are legal. Blank firers, including Retay are for sale freely.
Where legal as stated above certain brands have been banned as they where deemed to easy to convert. Watch the video.
@@crewgadjy wise advice 😅
@@crewgadjynope. Listen to the first sentence. It is incorrect, so I won't watch the rest. You watch.
@@angowT ALL Turkish made blank guns - Retay, Ekol, Ceonics and Blow (strangely not Kimar, but I’ll bet that’s just an error by NCA) are now banned (and illegal)! Most retailers have either removed them from online sites, or they all come up as ‘out of stock’ or ‘discontinued’. My local paintball/airsoft site has had to lock away all their stock, until then are informed what to do… I’ve only known about this for a little over a week, but will not make brash statements without doing some research first. My main concern here is the draconian way this has been imposed (particularly as all the affected models were originally Home Office approved) and the fact that crossbows and airguns will inevitably be next 😢
Given that the previously banned ‘Olympic .38’ eventually became available again, in a modified form - and that the rest of the Bruni models are ok (I’m pretty sure the Olympic .38 was from Bruni, or at least of Italian manufacturer) I hope the Turkish manufacturers can modify their models to comply in the same way. Unfortunately, the UK market is small although they have supplied top and side venting models for the UK (most of the rest of the world allows forward venting) Zoraki have never (to my knowledge) made any attempt to enter the UK market by changing their long-time banned models - but Retay, Ekol, etc already have a foothold (or at least their importer does - most likely SMK). I hope common sense can prevail, though I’m doubtful it will… 😢
Then all the real ones come out, and they're all finished.
There are no new laws on blank guns in the UK at the moment, but there is an amnesty for blank-firing guns planned for early 2024.
It's existing law.Didn't you read it? The four maker's top venting pistols "...have been found to be illegal under section 1(6) of the FA 1982 meaning, thet are prohibited firearms under section 5(1) of the FA 1968" It's not ALL blank firing guns, just those pistols from those makers. They did the same with the old 8mm Olympic revolver as it was easily converted.
@@LoremIpsum1970 He was talking about Retay. Retay is a two toned pistol which is widely available to buy.
@@malcolmjamesturner Not any more! A few seconds of online research will confirm this fact for you…
@@paulbirch6490 I read this "Top-venting blank firers (TVBFs) are legal to buy in the UK without a licence by over 18s unless they are readily convertible. In their original state they have a fully blocked barrel and are designed to discharge only blank cartridges. When discharged, combustion gases vent from the top of the weapon.24 Oct 2024" And as for Retay, I went on to 5 websites last night who are still selling them.
@@malcolmjamesturneryes, some stores have already removed them from stock, as for buying now, i guess some will continue to sell stock until 28 February 2025... On 1 March 2025 possession could give you up to 10 years... I have a Retay that's going to get binned...£100 down the drain...
It's the same with Airsoft guns and the UKARA (United Kingdom Airsoft Retailers Association) membership requirement. You need to provide a defence (You're a legitimate Airsoft skirmish player, reenactor etc) in order to be able to purchase Airsoft realistic imitation firearms (RIFs). Otherwise, 50% of the gun has to be painted in a bright colour like green, blue, orange etc. Yet many airgun companies are producing some of the same models in 4.5mm steel BB replica gun versions. Which can be purchased with just a form of photo ID like a passport or driving licence and something official with your name and address on it, like a bank statement. I hope they don't ban airgun replicas. But I for 1 would welcome a ban on crossbows. Or at least see a change in how they are sold to people. They can simply be bought online and sent through the normal postage couriers like Parcelforce etc. But airgun purchases can only be done via face to face with the retailer. Crossbows need to be sold in the same way. Even police background checks I would welcome. Because too many nutters are being able to get hold of weapons like these with no such checks whatsoever
There's one caveat to RIFS under VCRA...Replicas with a design and mechanism of a sort first dating before 1870 are exempt from the new UK laws (S.A.A. .45's are exempt). Most blank and airsoft RIFs are available off the shelf in two tone these days, just like blank firers are, you only need to declare DOB and you don't need to provide ID. What's probably going to cause problems in the future is obsolete calibre arms and live ammo will next on the list (though you can't be legally in posession of both at the same time!), you only need to be over 18 to own and purchase. As for crossbows, why not include bows as well? I'd rather hope they spend more time on knife crime than restricting crossbows, and if you want a glimpse into the future, there's one state in China that makes knives over 6" illegal unless your information is etched onto the blade... I'm guessing knives will be required to have dull rounded tips at some point...but an amnesty on kitchen knives would be interesting to see.
@@LoremIpsum1970pre-1870 blanks are okay to just get in the post?
@@liammeech3702 They'll mostly be chambered in .38R - such as for cowboy/linedancing years ago - which are widely available with only an "I'm over 18" tickbox on checkout. Generally, the NC powder in blanks is too 'hot' to use for any other purpose. But if people want to have a face full of pieces of zinc, it's a lesson they won't repeat.
You can buy airsoft guns at some military shows, no questions asked
How has this got through with zero consultation? Looks like the ‘trade’ have willingly thrown owners of these guns to the wolves, probably in the hope that it will stop further actions. It WON’T - crossbows and airguns WILL be next 😢
Ssshhhhh, don't give them any ideas.
Why would you need a consultation? They've been deemed illegal under current law, S1(6) of the FA 1982 and S5(1) of the FA 1968. What gets me is how if these can be converted in - I read somewhere - only 45 seconds, how have they been on open sale in the UK for years now? Don't the NCA test for that before they can be imported in the first place?????
@ As far as I’m aware , all the affected models had Home Office approval (unlike guns from Zoraki, another Turkish manufacturer). Normally, there would be a period of consultation before such draconian action. Hundreds of retailers have had to lock their stock away, prior to whatever will happen. Will they be returned to Turkey? Will they be destroyed?? Will the retailers be compensated?? I have close ties to a paintball/airsoft site who were selling the affected guns and also hiring them out to players, as a safer alternative to pyrotechnic ‘thunderflashes’. This decision will impact their business and I feel very sorry for them. If these guns were ‘that’ easy to convert (45 mins) they would NEVER have been granted Home Office approval in the first place (the reason the Zoraki models have never been available in the UK (or only briefly) is because they were deemed too easy to convert). Strangely, Italian made models by Bruni are not affected - and I’ve no idea why? Presumably, they must be harder to convert (but how long before they too are banned?). IMHO the whole thing smacks of a monumental cock-up by the Home Office 😱
Less rights than north korea😂
Its acutlly kinda mad, Al ot of people are converting them but you can esstially do the same with a programamble cnc macnine. Only bit that is tricky is the ignition source which u can get. I dont think them banning them would do anyhting
No they won't ban them, but if you get searched and even with just the 3D models on your computer and they can prove you have intent to manufacturer you're basically fked. It's best to stick to stuff that's legal in the long run.
Can you show the ones that are banned?????
@derekwngreen Retay, Ekol, Ceonic and Blow.... these are the banned ones mate. If you have any of them they need handing over 🙄
@ I don’t even know what the model is I have but it’s a revolver!
It says made in Italy!
@derekwngreen I may have heard the revolver is ok but honestly I would look it up and find out. You only have until to 26th of this month to hand them over
Says 12 comments an all gone why? I just pray bb pews ain't next I aswell as alot of us guys will be in a hole of like £6000 plus
@@co2addicted788 I keep noting an issue with comments again, there was loads on here. I reckon with parts I'm about 9k in 🤣
@@Replica-Airgun-Lovers 🤦♂️😂😂
I think yt is lagging today mate, im on youtube studio now and I can see them, could see them on normal yt
@@Replica-Airgun-Lovers ahhhhh that's probably it then bro yt awful lately
@@AdamMcCool-01 jeesus an I though I was an idiot 😂 that's a collection alright I've only been at it 3 years 🤦♂️ since I was fucked up and can't work, had to find a hobby spent most summer in hospital so this year's been a bit lamo like. That is a collection I would love to see though buddy 🙏😁
Meanwhile in Russia you can have Ak 47s it’s crazy!🤪
@@dustinspivey2519 we can in England too, and a 50 cal 🫣
I just got a letter to hand it in
@bmanrobinson4532 just goes to show they know what you have. I was told by a few people they got emails through telling them to and thm in, they can have mine but not the blanks or its case or cleaning kit and oil 🤣 I'm in Thailand till February anyway so they can wait haha
@Replica-Airgun-Lovers yeah I m handing it into the police station tomorrow I'm gonna really miss it, it was an ekol Gediz.
Thanks for the info, I had been considering buying one until now.
@jamiekendall2637 your welcome, luckily they're not for sale anymore. Avoid any private sales saying it's OK
wonder whats next
I have been saying this for a long time now, people don't seem to listen 😒
@@derekporter66 To paraphrase the Manic Street Preachers “if you tolerate this, your crossbows and airguns will be next” 😢
Is there still exemptions for those making films?
What can you have for self defense in the E.U.?
A knife 🔪?🤠🇺🇸
We aren't EU mate and nothing, if you use a paperclip in the wrong way it's an offence.. you use your fist or within reason you can use a weapon, that's like, out numbered and having no other option to protect yourself and family with reasonable force
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Something has to change soon.
You can use proportional force, use what you like just keep it proportional and don't carry anything for the purpose of self-defense as that is illegal in the UK
@ifv2089 I always wonder why we never cover defence in the law, it's an offensive weapon that's the issue, but they never talk about defence. In theory you could still use a shield 😅
@Replica-Airgun-Lovers to be fair shields are good bits of kit can cause some wicked damage with em too 👌
are they going to pay you compensation
Absolutely not lol.. they are now illegal so we have to consider ourselves lucky they are letting you hand them in without any further action taken
@@Replica-Airgun-Lovers I’m guessing they have absolutely NO idea how many are out there (they’ve been available for many years, so it must be THOUSANDS - or who has them? I can see it driving many of them underground - or even being sold to the scum who convert them, at a premium 😱
Not in Scotland tho
@CustomTaylor I did wonder, a few people have asked about Scotland but as you may well know your laws are separate from ours
Blank firing guns that are not used as starting pistols are silly.
They're used in re-enactments and film too
@@peterrat100 Stupid statement! Dog training, firearm familiarisation, re-enactment and film work (my field) are just a few reasons to want a blank firing gun! Just because you don’t want one, please don’t speak for others.
Side-venting blank guns.
These guns are legal to buy for anyone over 18, unless they are readily convertible. They are designed to only discharge blank cartridges and have a fully blocked barrel in their original state.
@@malcolmjamesturner You need to do considerably more research before making such sweeping statements! 😳
Retay two tone side venting bkank firers are still on sale. And so are replica side venting blank firearms.
Don't see pont in blank gun enyway 😂😂 just people think that they plastic gangsters when that got one
The point was the ones that could be converted, but as you can see, the nanny state have even taken that people's power away.
A bunch of reasons: Sports, Re-Enactment, Film and obviously Collecting
Personally I don't have any blanks since I prefer airguns
You're missing the point. It doesn't matter whether you personally see the point of them. The fact is that the government is confiscating property from law-abiding people.
Besides, there are legitimate reasons to have replicas. I used to have quite a collection of them, because I am interested in the history of firearms. I didn't think I was a gangster lol
@@YrCleddyf I currently have my eye on a blank firing M3 ‘Grease gun’. It’s second hand, rather rough and £500! There’s also a Sten available - £1500 (new)! These are custom built from scratch, under strict conditions (so that parts are not interchangeable with ‘real steel’ versions). I do SFX for films, etc - so for me, this would be a business investment - though I’m very concerned that somewhere down the line, these will also be banned and I’d lose my investment 😢