I didn't even know about this mk2 version until I found this video just now. Thanks for that! I'm really interested in this new version. The first version was not good enough so I sold it.
Hi, please review the kamlan 21mm f1.8 lens. Also need a comparison with the zonlai 22mm and viltrox manual lenses in general in terms of picture quality, color rendering and micro contrast. Thanks.
Just received a Wechat push notification from Kamlan's official public account. Apparently, the lens is going on Kickstarter on June 4, 2019 at 22:00 Beijing Time (14:00 GMT.) That's slightly over 7 and a half hours from now. THE HYPE IS REAL!
If they keep the price below 200€ it is going to be a great lens. I recently bought the first version of Kamlan 50mm f/1.1 for 110€ and I am very satisfied. Some in body digital correction of contrast, saturation and sharpness are needed but the shallow depth of field is great and the only reason I bought this lens. I can't wait for the main review of the new Kamlan 50mm f/1.1 II.
Would be nice to have something like that at a decent price for full frame (one may still dream, right?), but I guess on APS-C or smaller it could be a wonderful portrait lens, with the FOV and DOF being about comparable to the much used 85mm/f1.8 standard. I support the entire list of wishes for improvement, as far as the "automation" of the lens goes, that you mentioned, and we'll see about the optical quality in more detail very soon, I guess. Did I understand it correctly though, that it is (or will be) available neither for Canon EF-S nor for Nikon F mount?
Thank you for the clarification! That's a pity, as I can't use it on my current bodies (both Nikon) then. Also as far as I can tell, all of their lenses have been like that until now, but they seem to be quite new in the field and might expand to other mounts at some point. Time will tell!
I'm new to the lens and the company too did some research was only privy of the original version of the lens(actually just bought it) Probably would have waited if I knew about the upgraded model.
Dustin thank you so much for your excellent reviews. I am building a Fuji X kit for video interviews, interviewee seated, indoors, using tripod or slider. Very interested in a clickless so I can do aperture racking and maybe a little focus pulling. So sharpish at centre is good, soft at edges is fine, modish is good. Super sharp all over is not needed. You have reviewed many manual lenses - Brightin, Pergear, etc is there one you consider more suitable for my application? Many thanks for your insights or suggestions. Thanks Vincent
Hi sir Dustin Abbott. I've been following your videos re: KAMLAN Lens. I got Canon EOS M50 with kitlens + 22mm F/2 STM pancake. I would like to get your opinion on which one should I get Kamlan 50mm F1.1 MKII or Kamlan 28mm f/1.4? By, the way, I'm more into Bokeh. Thank you
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you sir Abbott for the quick response. I really appreciate this. God Bless and more power to your Photography. Happy New Year too.
Thanks for the great review, I just got one for my Fuji XT3. I found that bayonet mount is a bit tighter than other Fuji lenses. Is this normal? Do you think it would loosen up as I use?
I've seen something like that before (I can't remember on what lens). It should loosen up some with time, though if it is extremely tight you should get the lens replaced.
you prolly dont give a shit but does someone know of a method to log back into an Instagram account..? I was stupid lost my login password. I would love any help you can give me.
@Dorian Rowan i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and im trying it out atm. I see it takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Been looking for a nifty-50 and I was just about to back their Kickstarter and grab an Mk2 when I came across your video and realised there's no autofocus :D. This wouldn't play well on my Ronin-S so you just saved me a good 200$. Thanks!
Say I was searching on eBay after the release of the new one. I may find listings for this lens but there will be listings for the old model also. Does the mark II have a "II" or a "mark II" indicator printed on the lens? I don't think I could tell from the video. If I am mistaken, please point it out. Thanks. Love your videos on lens reviews, by the way.
If you'll look at the image gallery you can see photos of the lens. bit.ly/kam1150IIig It actually says 50mm F1.1 II on it right before the aperture ring. It's also a lot squatter looking than the original, which is slimmer.
In the IQ breakdown, are you going to compare it to any other lens? Maybe the Samyang 50mm f1.2 might be a very interesting comparison. Both of those lenses are sought after for videoshooting on aps-c cameras.
I don't have the Samyang on hand, and so I more focus on the performance of the lens itself along with a few comparisons to the amazing Sigma 56mm F1.4 DC DN lens.
I'll never quite understand the obsession with putting APS-C lenses on full frame sensors. It does not cover a full frame image circle. On my a7R3 I need to crop in approximately a 1.2x crop factor, so it would cover APS-H.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I think it has to do for video work on f.e. an A7III, where you can crop with a custom button without losing much quality. If it covers a full frame sensor nicely you can zoom more and so use multiple focal lengths in one lens.
HOLY SHI*T IT'S HERE! AND WHY AM I USING ALL CAPS? Btw, Kamlan FINALLY fixed their website, it now looks excellent and has good English translations! Finally, I don't need my crazy Soviet projector lens for ultra wide-aperture, that lens is kind of like the og Kamlan 50mm, except it is stuck at f1.2, has lots of barrel distortion, field curvature and lateral CAs... and it's much sharper than the og 50mm at any aperture in the centre of the frame... (Hopefully the mk2 beats that) Another thing: It seems MaChang Optics, the company that created Kamlan, changed their profile picture on Kickstarter to the 50mm f1.1 mk2. The hype is real!
Hmmm, not quite sure where you are getting that other than the fact they are both 50mm F1.1 lenses. The Kamlan is actually more optically complex, heavier, different dimensions and filter size, and focuses down considerably closer. They are very different lenses.
I am surprised that they can keep the price so low. I have the MK I and I used it occasionally. I will probably stick with it given it is lighter and smaller so it is more suitable for travel. It sucks that Canon has no native equivalent so I cannot compare the MKii IQ with anything meaningful.
Been looking forward to this! Their 28mm is a real gem if you know how to nail the focus. On their website it says the MK2 will be around the $200 mark. Let's wait and see what the price will be at AliExpress after it is mass produced 👍
@@DustinAbbottTWI That would be nice, the 28mm is nicely built, but still not quite as robust as my soviet stuff (those are proper weapons). Some parts rattle a bit. It does not affect shooting, but still.
I prefer a firmer aperture ring because I will accidentally move the aperture for my other manual lens with declicked rings.
You should be happy then...
looks like a real beauty
For sure.
I didn't even know about this mk2 version until I found this video just now. Thanks for that! I'm really interested in this new version. The first version was not good enough so I sold it.
This is a completely different kind of lens. Very impressive optically.
Dustin Abbott The kickstarter haven't launched yet right? Do you know when?
Within the next two weeks, I believe.
Hi, please review the kamlan 21mm f1.8 lens. Also need a comparison with the zonlai 22mm and viltrox manual lenses in general in terms of picture quality, color rendering and micro contrast. Thanks.
Hi there, my relationship with Kamlan has soured a bit, so that probably won't happen.
Great Job Dustin
Thank you!
I`ll be looking forward to part 2.
For sure.
Very detailed review of the lens. Thank you.
You're welcome.
Just received a Wechat push notification from Kamlan's official public account. Apparently, the lens is going on Kickstarter on June 4, 2019 at 22:00 Beijing Time (14:00 GMT.) That's slightly over 7 and a half hours from now. THE HYPE IS REAL!
I'll be rolling out my review to time with that. I've actually just released the text review, which you can see here: bit.ly/kamlan1150IIda
If they keep the price below 200€ it is going to be a great lens. I recently bought the first version of Kamlan 50mm f/1.1 for 110€ and I am very satisfied. Some in body digital correction of contrast, saturation and sharpness are needed but the shallow depth of field is great and the only reason I bought this lens.
I can't wait for the main review of the new Kamlan 50mm f/1.1 II.
I love this one compared to the first, which I really didn't like.
Would be nice to have something like that at a decent price for full frame (one may still dream, right?), but I guess on APS-C or smaller it could be a wonderful portrait lens, with the FOV and DOF being about comparable to the much used 85mm/f1.8 standard.
I support the entire list of wishes for improvement, as far as the "automation" of the lens goes, that you mentioned, and we'll see about the optical quality in more detail very soon, I guess.
Did I understand it correctly though, that it is (or will be) available neither for Canon EF-S nor for Nikon F mount?
That's correct. It is only for APS_C mirrorless cameras, so the only Canon/Nikon mount will be Canon's EF-M mount.
Thank you for the clarification! That's a pity, as I can't use it on my current bodies (both Nikon) then. Also as far as I can tell, all of their lenses have been like that until now, but they seem to be quite new in the field and might expand to other mounts at some point. Time will tell!
Hi Dustin will you be thoroughly testing out the Panasonic S1 anytime soon?
I'm afraid not. I don't have time to add another camera system.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I hope Panasonic can send you one then
I'm new to the lens and the company too did some research was only privy of the original version of the lens(actually just bought it) Probably would have waited if I knew about the upgraded model.
It will probably be a few months yet before it is mass-produced, so this is very cutting edge.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks,btw loved both of your reviews.Thanks for sharing.
Dustin thank you so much for your excellent reviews. I am building a Fuji X kit for video interviews, interviewee seated, indoors, using tripod or slider. Very interested in a clickless so I can do aperture racking and maybe a little focus pulling. So sharpish at centre is good, soft at edges is fine, modish is good. Super sharp all over is not needed. You have reviewed many manual lenses - Brightin, Pergear, etc is there one you consider more suitable for my application? Many thanks for your insights or suggestions. Thanks Vincent
This one is pretty good. I also really like their 28mm F1.4
As I learned to love my Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 I'm very curious for this Mk2 version of the affordable f/1.1 lens :-)
I think you'll enjoy it.
Hi sir Dustin Abbott. I've been following your videos re: KAMLAN Lens. I got Canon EOS M50 with kitlens + 22mm F/2 STM pancake. I would like to get your opinion on which one should I get Kamlan 50mm F1.1 MKII or Kamlan 28mm f/1.4? By, the way, I'm more into Bokeh. Thank you
I would go for the 50mm simply because 28mm is much closer in focal length to what you already have.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you sir Abbott for the quick response. I really appreciate this. God Bless and more power to your Photography. Happy New Year too.
Thanks for the great review, I just got one for my Fuji XT3. I found that bayonet mount is a bit tighter than other Fuji lenses. Is this normal? Do you think it would loosen up as I use?
I've seen something like that before (I can't remember on what lens). It should loosen up some with time, though if it is extremely tight you should get the lens replaced.
Dustin Abbott thanks for the reply. It got a lot better than first time I mounted.
you prolly dont give a shit but does someone know of a method to log back into an Instagram account..?
I was stupid lost my login password. I would love any help you can give me.
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@Dorian Rowan i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and im trying it out atm.
I see it takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Been looking for a nifty-50 and I was just about to back their Kickstarter and grab an Mk2 when I came across your video and realised there's no autofocus :D. This wouldn't play well on my Ronin-S so you just saved me a good 200$. Thanks!
I have one for fuji. Very difficult to work with. Need often a ND-filter. Use it not very often, leave it at home mostly.
I doubt you have the MKII as it isn't available to the public yet.
Also, if you expected to use an f1.1 without an ND filter, I don't consider your opinion relevant in any way.
I just wish theyd also make a fullframe version
Agreed. That would be fun.
If you only saw it in pictures, how can you tell that it’s the mk II that you’re looking at?
??? I'm holding two different copies of the lens in this video
Say I was searching on eBay after the release of the new one. I may find listings for this lens but there will be listings for the old model also. Does the mark II have a "II" or a "mark II" indicator printed on the lens? I don't think I could tell from the video. If I am mistaken, please point it out. Thanks. Love your videos on lens reviews, by the way.
If you'll look at the image gallery you can see photos of the lens. bit.ly/kam1150IIig It actually says 50mm F1.1 II on it right before the aperture ring. It's also a lot squatter looking than the original, which is slimmer.
Hi, any updates on the kickstarter campaign? Tia
The Kickstarter campaign goes live on June 4th: kamlan-50mm-f11-mk2-prime-lens.kckb.st/dabbott
Is possible to use this lens in a canon M50?
They have the EOS-M version but I don't know if is compatible with EF-M.
Yes, the EOS-M version is EF-M mount.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank foi for tour answer...sadly I buy this but is not working I thing they sell me one with damage..
:-(
I love my mk1 but I wish it focused a little closer.
You get a little better performance here.
How is the IQ with this lens, compared to something like the Panasonic 42.5 f1.7?...
I don't shoot Panasonic, so I don't know the answer to that. You''ll see the IQ performance shortly, though.
I think kamlane 1.1 mark ll is owsam , specially for low budget photo & videographers . But can we use in Nikon or Nikon z sereace ?
Not at this point
interesting ... does it provide exif data? Would be very cool :-)
No, it doesn't. 4:49 It does not have any electronic contacts, unfortunately.
Unfortunately no.
Thank you for the info!
Thank you Tom!
In the IQ breakdown, are you going to compare it to any other lens?
Maybe the Samyang 50mm f1.2 might be a very interesting comparison. Both of those lenses are sought after for videoshooting on aps-c cameras.
I don't have the Samyang on hand, and so I more focus on the performance of the lens itself along with a few comparisons to the amazing Sigma 56mm F1.4 DC DN lens.
How bad does it vignette on full frame?
I'll never quite understand the obsession with putting APS-C lenses on full frame sensors. It does not cover a full frame image circle. On my a7R3 I need to crop in approximately a 1.2x crop factor, so it would cover APS-H.
Not an obsession. Just a curiosity 😎
Perhaps not you, per se, but I get these type questions every time I review an APS-C lens.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I think it has to do for video work on f.e. an A7III, where you can crop with a custom button without losing much quality. If it covers a full frame sensor nicely you can zoom more and so use multiple focal lengths in one lens.
HOLY SHI*T IT'S HERE!
AND WHY AM I USING ALL CAPS?
Btw, Kamlan FINALLY fixed their website, it now looks excellent and has good English translations! Finally, I don't need my crazy Soviet projector lens for ultra wide-aperture, that lens is kind of like the og Kamlan 50mm, except it is stuck at f1.2, has lots of barrel distortion, field curvature and lateral CAs... and it's much sharper than the og 50mm at any aperture in the centre of the frame... (Hopefully the mk2 beats that)
Another thing: It seems MaChang Optics, the company that created Kamlan, changed their profile picture on Kickstarter to the 50mm f1.1 mk2. The hype is real!
I think you'll really like the MKII. It has some of the charm of vintage glass but is a lot more competent.
this or used nikon ais 50mm f1.2?
I'm not familiar with the Nikon lens as I don't shoot Nikon.
Looks like the 7 Artisans ff 50mm 1.1
Hmmm, not quite sure where you are getting that other than the fact they are both 50mm F1.1 lenses. The Kamlan is actually more optically complex, heavier, different dimensions and filter size, and focuses down considerably closer. They are very different lenses.
Im suspecting the lens are coming from 1 factory then kamlan or 7artisan or ttartisan just purchased it to build and rebrand
I take it that this is a manual, Chinese made lens. Probably not in the same league as a Voigtlander as an example. So cost is the driving factor?
It should come in at around $200 or slightly under, so yes, it will be very competitively priced. Optically it is surprisingly good, actually.
I am surprised that they can keep the price so low. I have the MK I and I used it occasionally. I will probably stick with it given it is lighter and smaller so it is more suitable for travel. It sucks that Canon has no native equivalent so I cannot compare the MKii IQ with anything meaningful.
It is quite an achievement, as this is a much more serious lens.
So quick question since it's aspc how does that effect me if I'm using on a Sony a7ii full frame??
You either have to shoot in APS-C mode or significantly crop in post. It does not cover the full frame image circle (it falls about 22% short).
Been looking forward to this! Their 28mm is a real gem if you know how to nail the focus. On their website it says the MK2 will be around the $200 mark. Let's wait and see what the price will be at AliExpress after it is mass produced 👍
It would be quite a feat to price it there, as this is more robust lens than either the MK1 or the 28mm
@@DustinAbbottTWI That would be nice, the 28mm is nicely built, but still not quite as robust as my soviet stuff (those are proper weapons). Some parts rattle a bit. It does not affect shooting, but still.
Kamlan = "Cam" "len" = Camera lenses. :|
Not according to them, but it works for me
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