Escaping a Christian Cult to Find Blind Love & Judaism (The story of Nechama & Lavi Greenspan)
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- Their story of finding each other is truly unbelievable. Lavi went blind in his early 20s and has grown spiritually as a Jew ever since. Nechama, who began her journey as a Christian, ended up in a Christian cult that pretended to be Orthodox Jews. By a miracle, they found each other and have been growing together as a couple ever since.
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Love how he praises H” at every detail of his life! ❤
Agreed. Many people, self included, would wallow in depression and self-pity under these horrendous challenges.
she and her husband spoke by my school and it left a great impact! im so happy to see her again!!
Never give up. I hope Lavj gets his eyesight back so he can see how truly beautiful his wife is! What a lovely woman.
Omen....
AMEN🙏🙏🙏
Baruch HaShem! All of your guests are inspiring; these two are the beyond inspiring. Never give up. 🕊✡️❤️
Wow what a powerful interview ❤ thank you
Your wife is your best friend for life. ❤
Thank you Yaakov for bringing Lavi back! This is so beautiful to see!
Kol Hakavod to you, Nechama, for pushing for the great results 🎉
Never give up! And Nechama is exceptional in her abilities, her search for truth, and her ability to articulate what she has learned!! Besuros Tovos! A kesiva vachasima tova leShana Tova uMesuka to all who read this!
@@sarakaplan3396 🌸🌷💕🌹💜 Chasima Tova to you
His sense of humor is priceless!
It was nice to bump into Lavi on Shavuis in Bait Shemesh. Just watching him with all that energy was so inspiring.
This is beautiful I wish I cold find my match in judaism I USED to be Christian 6 yrs ago love ❤️ who I am now Jewish
What an articulate, inspiring young women!!!! Very inspiring!!! They are an amazing couple!!😊
I cannot stop smiling, hearing this couple talk! I am so very happy for them. It makes me hopeful for my daughter, who is 38. Hashem will hopefully send her beshert soon. Never give up!!!
Never give up. Just want to say that I love how both of them had/have a Rav that they trust and are confident has their back. To have Rabbeim that you trust and a community that supports you and believes in you is another gift you can thank Hashem for.
Never give up! Interesting episode.
Such a beautiful, brave and thirsty for truth woman. A tzadik and a tzadika 💗🌷💜
This was so inspirational! Perfect program for Elul. May Hashem continue to bless Am Yisrael !
Never give up. A very inspirational story
There seem to be a lot of Christians in this comments section so I'm writing this (kind of recklessly) to Christians but it's really coming from my heart. I mean this with the most respect, as all people are created in the image of
G-d and deserve respect. G-d loves you. You can do better than Jesus. You can connect to G-d directly. I know that the church may tell you that you are nothing but a sinner and that it's impossible for you to connect to Him and you are so lost and helpless that all you can do to save yourself is believe in Jesus. I promise you, you can speak to G-d directly. You don't need to create a human form of god to feel worthy of connecting to Him. G-d loves you and wants you. It's so painful for Him to see his creations worshipping idols or humans as god (it's actually one of the 3 cardinal sins too). I know it's so confusing if you were brought up being told things from a young age, but it can't hurt to at least investigate a different reality even if you are skeptical at first. You don't need to be Jewish or convert to Judaism to live with G-d, but please, no more with Jesus (with the most respect). If you're open to at least giving it a chance, Rabbi Tovia Singer has really helpful videos on his TH-cam channel. G-d really loves you and wants to connect with you directly. Wishing everyone the best...
wow that was so well said! same to jews who go to kevarim and rely on that INSTEAD of davening to Hashem
@@hi-kb3hbgoing to kevarim is a completely legitimate Jewish practice, expressly permitted (and encouraged) in many authentic sources
Why not be kind and respect other people's beliefs? There is enough evil and anger in this world. Be a Jew, which means to be loving and kind.
@@hi-kb3hb visiting kevorim is a legitimate practice in halacha which is actually recommended and extolled in many sources
@@CaesarRenasci I apologize if I came across as unkind. It was felt/meant with love (certainly not evil or anger)
Amazing couple, beautiful story! Incredible hasgacha pratis, Hashem should bless you both with a lot of hatzlacha and brocha in all your ways! Thank you for sharing your beautiful story and beautiful connection to Hashem and our Torah, your a true inspiration to us all!!! G-d bless you both❤️🥰
Enjoyed this thoroughly. What a charming sincere couple...true ovdei Hashem...a breath of fresh air. Never give up! -- as Rebbe Nachman of Breslov teaches!
Wow, that was really nice! And I love that you went way longer than usual! Somewhere at thw halfway point, i was curious how mucj longer, expecting it to be over soon because it felt like it had been almost an hour, and because I really did *not* want it to be over yet(!), and i was so happy to see that it was only halfway through!! So thanky ou for that! I wish all tour interviews would be longer! I'm the type who loves longer interviews.
And that Never Give Up! motto I hope to put into practice! Ots hard at times, but beH I'll take inspiration from Lavi, and keep thank Hashem for all the good I have.
I also love hearing converts' stories, so thank you, Nechama, for sharing yours!
Thank you, Yaakov, for another wonrerful episode!
Oh, and Nechama, while watching your wedding video, I saw that it seems like you have a good relationahip with your family. Its always so beautiful and heartwarming to see when the family relationship doesn't change even through relgious differences. I'm guessing you and Lavi make a great Kiddush Hashem.
Never give up.
So we are the only religion in the world who does not seek converts, yet the header is about them coming to the 'True religion', when we don't claim there is 'Only one way'. What is going on please?
They changed the header/title. I wonder if they realized it was wrong or what.
I'll explain. We don't try and convert people. And we believe the only truth is judaism/torah. They are not mutually exclusive. Just cuz we know it's true doesn't mean Gd intends us to convert the world. The only thing we can speak up against is idolatry, which includes Christianity, but we're not trying to make them jewish
Being Jewish is a responsibility of spreading godliness, kindness and morality throughout the world. Our goal is not to convert anyone. The idea that you have Christians that have true morals is a testament the spreading of Jewish values. It's not perfect, but the pagan world and earlier Christians were far worse.
Never give up!
Great episode!! that story at the end with the shushing during davening....priceless 😂.
Amazing people!!! Tnx
I've listened to every single episode of inspiration for the nation and while I always enjoy, I've never felt compelled to comment esp because I listed on Apple Podcasts. This was the best episode ever. What an incredible couple. Feeling very motivated and inspired. Thank you!
Wow!! Never give up ❤
What an inspiration!! Both of them!!
Such amazing insight!!! Thanks for sharing
Amazing stories from both of they. Never give up!!
Point of clarification: Nechama stated that the old testament is the Tanach. Absolutely false, the old testament is the highly corrupted version of the Tanach which was altered to give it a christological appearance which is directly in prohibition of Deuteronomy 4:2. The old testament even changed the order of the three main sections of the Tanach from Torah, Nevi'im and Ketuvim, to the old testaments Torah, Ketuvim and Nevi'im. Absolutely sinister.
There is no need to be up in arms, Testament means Covenant, and yes the holy Tanakh was for the first time revealed to humanity through Moses as part of the holy Covenant God made with israel at mount Sinai, Exodus 19:5,6. And as for corruption you don't need to go to the pagan Churches of Christendom, the Talmudist rabbis have done the most wonderful corruption of The holy Tanakh themselves, by introducing their own personal version of human philosophies in their man made mystical Talmud and other books.
Beautiful ❤
Never give up!
Bh. Nice couple..be happy.❤❤❤
NEVER GIVE UP!
Kent State University is in Kent Ohio. 3 of the 4 students killed were Jewish. The student paralyzed was not Jewish.
Gevald! Never give up!
Never give up 👊
The NT is based on Greek mythology, the original and only true bible is the Hebrew one, mistranslated to create Christianity
Never give up
@~ 11:00 minutes, just want to point out that leining isn't "culturally Jewish", it is a takana both by Moshe (Monday and Thursday) and Ezra (Shabbat). "Culturally Jewish" anything is a myth.
Yes
This is real life, puts pure basic lifes blessings in prespective, on the other hand money, honor, luxury etc are all distractions & narishkeiten...
Connection, love, chesed, these are the real hallmarks of life.
Never Give Up!
Never give up!!
never give up
Which christian cult was this? I am writing a thesis on cults and their structures I'm interest to know
Maybe Messianic Judaism
@@jasminponcelopezno it’s more specific. Messianic Christianity, sadly is pervasive.
Never give up ❤
1:40:10 I thought you were referring to when Moshiach comes!!!
Blesz you
I need some help getting somewhere to a safe place there are many vicious dogs in this area seeking my life even my own family and neighbor people in this area connected to all of them
What is the What'sapp number to be added to Levin group chat?
Levi your my Rebbe !
thanks for this episode! Could you please post the WhatsApp/email links that Mrs. Greenspan mentioned?
sadly theres a few of those claiming to be Christian 😢
Unfortunately yes 😢 Paints all other TRUE Christians unfairly, with the same brush.
Christian is a Greek term for Nazarenee Jew, that sadly was implemented today as a new religion. People on Israel usually say נוצרי and the old term was נצרי, which derives from the same root.
Rabbinic Jews and Christians will never admit it, because the reluctance to accept Yeshua was a Jew, born as a Jew and resurrected a Jew would destroy the religious system.
I don't know hardly any Christians who don't love the Torah and know that Yeshua was Jewish. He had to be, and we love Israel.
@@joybischoff9558 for sure ❤️
@@BolawayNo. “Christ” is derived from the Greek word meaning anointed. It is the equivalent of the word for messiah.
The term that translates to “christian” was first used as a pejorative to describe people who worshiped the Jesus character as a deity and as a messiah when it was clear that he was neither, if he existed at all.
Torah cleanses if you follow the commandments of the Torah.
Do you offer animal sacrifice as commanded in Torah?
Do you send a scapegoat to wilderness once a year for the atonement of sins as commanded in Torah?
Do you stone to death homosexual, adulterer and disobedient son as commanded in Torah?
God gave Jews Torah to follow it practically not just to talk about it.
@@ruth4019 Jesus asserted g-d gave us the Torah Laws to show our ineptitude without g-d FINALLY if a human really sets to follow Torah law he will fast realize the ridiculousness of the proposal and the sinfulness of himself.
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İsrail ❤
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IT HELPED THAT THE MANAGER WAS BIGGER THAN SHOPLIFTER
The woman's story is my story. Except I am one step further ahead. I don't think you need to 'become' Jewish to BE Jewish.
You might have a very interesting story, and as for becoming jewish at has been a confusing topic for many. Though judaism was selected and created as a Theocratic Kingdom by God Himself ages ago, it persevered through time to become a jewish Secular Democratic State.
I would appreciate it if you throw some light on jewish or becoming jewish topic.
@@summerhouse8205 being Jewish means to put your trust in one sole, sovereign, _incorporeal_ God and practice His law of love. To love Him and Him alone and to love your fellow human being.
@@RudydeGroot
That is very nice and may God bless you.
It is joshua... not jesus.
[Yehoshua]...
We are not looking for salvation.
We are looking for a redeemer.
Jesus is the name that the English translators of the nt chose, probably to avoid confusion. In the same way, they chose to use the name “Mary” instead of Miriam for the character’s mother.
Per G’d, G’d is our Redeemer.
If Jesus existed, he was an ordinary man, conceived in the usual manner. If he existed, Jesus was not the messiah because, per the nt, Jesus taught contrary to the Torah given by G’d.
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Maybe you should follow the bible not people!
tzadekes
@ruthietaylor8756 please read my comments below to another person for my perspective! We agree more than u know. According to Judaism a gentile must follow Noahide laws - there are 7.
Problem is : it’s impossible to follow. If you understand Genesis u will understand this.
Who is Isaiah 53 talking about?
That section of Isaiah refers to the Jewish people, collectively. They have suffered so much for bringing the light of HaShem through His Torah to the world.
If you would like a more thorough explanation, Rabbi Stuart Federow made an excellent video on the subject. HTH.
The suffering servant is the Israel people.
The servant who suffered from the nations is Israel
Just think about it this way, no matter who Isaiah 53 is nowhere does it say that this suffering servant needs to be worshipped. Hypothetically speaking if that suffering servant was a man ( which is not the case) it doesn’t say that we are to worship that servant. For example, Moses did many great things for Israel and he is not to be worshipped.
May it be Your will before HaShem (that is YHVH) that the sounding of the tashrat that we are blowing will be woven into the curtain of heaven by the hand of the minister Tartiel, like the name that You received by the hand of Eliyahu of blessed memory, and Yeshua Sar HaPanim and also the Minister Metatron and fill us up with mercy. Blessed are You who possesses all mercies
Please don't call Christianity a cult that is our belief and way of life 🙏🙏 we support and love jews so you should do same
Critical listening skills are incredibly important. She very clearly said "I was in a Christian cult that pretended to be Orthodox Jews"
She did NOT say "Christianity is a cult"... A massive difference. She was in a cult, that happened to be Christian in their beliefs.
If we have this critical reading and listening skills, why don't we use it?
Nechama wasn’t calling Christianity a cult. She’s referring to the specific Christian group that pretends to be Orthodox Jews. She might disagree with normative Christianity but she has a lot of respect.
Khdsit,
As a Jew, I apologize for less than respectful comments left by some of my coreligiinists. There is nothing Jewish in such behavior. Nothing.
May the Creator continue to bless you, sustain you, amd support tou in your endeavors.
@@CECS1 There is a difference between making a remark and hectoring. Learn it.
@@khdsit she was in a cult if messianic Judaism which assert Jesus as messiah and need to follow orthodox Jewish law - it’s not disrespectful to Christian’s
Isaiah 53
Daniel 7:13,14
Jeremiah 31:31-34
Psalm 110:1-5
Zechariah 14:3,4
Stop
Just random proof text attempts that missionaries repeatedly try. You won't get anywhere with these scams
Yeshua never said the Torah would be abolished but he came to full fill it. Matthew 5:17-18
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Are you sure you were once Christians?? I just saw the first 33 seconds and all ready refuted. Nice try.
@@summerhouse8205 Full fill the law live it to it's fullest. The law is perfect and none has lived it to its perfection. You have never read the New Testament if you did you would know what its about.
@@summerhouse8205 I responded troll no need to be smart, just be polite. Thanks troll.
@@summerhouse8205 OK troll.
@@summerhouse8205 Dont be smart, be polite please. Thanks troll.
Stop proselytizing. It’s entirely unwelcome.
Yoshka fulfilled the law of Moshka, which commanded animal sacrifice and scapegoat rituals for the atonement of sins, among other rituals.
Not True. Human Sacrifice is the antithesis of Torah described animal- Sacrifice....
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A human cannot be born of a virgin and rise again from the dead. Jesus Christ was born of a virgin and rose again from the dead on the third day from his crucifixion. Jesus Christ was divine, God's Own Son.
@@ruth4019
( Respectfully), The problem with that is being born of a "Virgin " rather than a Human direct Descendant of King David , means that he cannot be a Messianic King of Israel.eclared
And, "ARising" from the dead is both possible ( as is Prophetically d
Declared in the Promised Prophesy of the Vale of Dry Bones and accured by the hand of Elisha the Prophet at G-d's Will.
( so ...not on a level of Deiafection )...While , the constant reiterated Declaration of Almighty G-d as well as in Prophesies remains "...And it shall be said and it Will that Almigbt G-d will be King
"And it will be that ( Jhva) the Almighty shall be King over all the Earth , on That Day ...The Almighty Shall Be One, and His name One!"
( So , let us rejoice ...for just as The Almighty brought his People ( himself ; and not by the hand of an Angel nor Heavenly creature) out of Egypt with His "strong -arm" , so too will He ( Himself ) battle for His People Israel ( against Evil that come against Jerusalem to make War upon Him ) and be Established as One !"( amen....)
Christians leaving Christianity is prophesied in the New Testament before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
King James Version
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Anti-Christ will come for a short period and then the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will take place.
now she can't eat cheeseburgers or crab legs nor flush on sabbath. good job gal
Your last one is inaccurate. Nothing wrong with flushing. It'slike turning on a tap.
Your anger is directed at women for what sin? For following the bible? For becoming a member of the children of Israel ? Look into your own heart
@@NeshamaNation orthodox disagree
@@cohenlabe1 bart e ' there are 50k biblical manuscripts no two alike '
@@Timmy-bb7ch I do not know what you are talking about but the Jewish bible is identical one to the other without any changes the Jewish bible from 2500 + year old community's in India or Africa or Israel all the same Torah. Not a single word change gp check it out
Christianity is the New Covenant God said to make different from the Old Covenant made between God and Israel because Israel broke the Old Covenant. Christianity has to be distinct.
@@ruth4019 you are mistaken. Gd said that the Torah can’t be added nor sustracted (Deut. 4:2) He’s covenant with Israel is eternal. The new covenant on Jeremiah 31 is inscribing the Holy Torah in the heart, is more deep. Nowhere in the Tanach says that a new theology will replace the Torah.
You seem to have a stutter. If you want to understand the Hebrew bible you need to start reading your "proofs" in context.
Yoshka fulfilled the law of Moshka which commanded animal sacrifice and scapegoat ritual for the atonement for sins,and more rituals.
No human can die for the sins of others, pure paganism
@@ruthietaylor8756 he was without sin thus proving he was not a human - he was g-d incarnate as flesh - his sacrifice is not human sacrifice -/ it is g-ds forgiveness incarnate before ur eyes through the perfect sacrifice. Ur belief that he was human is errant according to Jesus himself - did u pray and ask Hashem to reveal the truth ?? Or are u relying on ur own learnings biases understandings???
@@ipt3000 idolatry! 10 commandments ONE God! Do not add or take away! Praying to anything or anybody else is idolatry
@@ruthietaylor8756
In Isaiah 53 the suffering servant is dying for the sins of others.Following you logic, Isaiah 53 is paganism which depicts the suffering servant dying for the sins of others or the suffering servant is an animal ?
Isaiah 53:12
King James Version
Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
@@ruthietaylor8756
Jesus Christ was no other God than God the Creator.Jesus Christ was part of God. You have body, voice and soul but aren't you one?
NOWHERE in the Hebrew scriptures did God ever mention the NAME "Yeshua" to us. Any time the WORD "yeshua" appears in the Hebrew scriptures, it means "salvation" and NEVER refers to the name of a PERSON!
This is interesting. What is the name of Mary’s husband? In English Yeshua translates to Joseph
Correct.
@@ipt3000
What is your source? Yosef is Joseph, in my experience.
Joshua and Joseph are 2 different names
@@ipt3000
@@ipt3000there are no J in Hebrew but a Y Joseph is Yoseph Yoshua is Joshua English
Please the link to his "no talking while davening" whatsapp group
Beautiful couple beautiful stories giving so much inspiration in positive energy BH.
Bracha V’hatzlacha BZH.
כתיבה וחתימה טובה לשנה טובה ומתוקה בעזה״ש
A yid in love with H” ❤️🩹
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Torah cleanses if you follow the commandments of the Torah.
Do you offer animal sacrifice as commanded in Torah?
Do you send a scapegoat to wilderness once a year for the atonement of sins as commanded in Torah?
Do you stone to death homosexual, adulterer and disobedient son as commanded in Torah?
God gave Jews Torah to follow it practically not just to talk about it.
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