I was ferrying a VFR only Grumman trainer from Washington state to the Dallas area on June 1, and I flew over that same cloud layer in the morning. It was a bit daunting flying over such a solid layer for 2ish hours and having to trust the solid VFR observations near my refueling spots, but in the end it was one of the nicest flights I’ve flown. From one Josh to another, thanks for your great analysis and video once again!
Great discussion about talking to ATC, Josh. When I was starting out as a PP I was scared of ATC, like everyone else. But I lived out in the middle of nowhere, and consequently flew a lot of cross-country flights. My CFI in my training had encouraged me to always get VFR flight following on XC's, and this is a GREAT way to get comfortable talking to ATC in a low-stress environment. You don't just get practice talking to controllers, but you get to listen in on the other pilot-controller comms on your frequency and you can learn vicariously from them. Great video, as usual.
16:21 My friends and I did this exact thing by flying from Spinks to that airport and getting Hard Eight BBQ and then coming right back. It's a fond memory of mine.
Chelsea did so awesome! High stress load and she killed it. Hard 8 is the absolute best bbq in TX! I also highly recommend their steaks, they’re incredible!!
Hi Josh, I have downloaded every video you have done and I am now slowly watching them all. I also have a very small TH-cam channel called "Aviation" and do some very simplistic videos that are nothing compared to yours. I am still gaining experience and do not have a lot of hours. I hope I can one day reach the standard of your productions which are first class and are as professional as I have ever seen. The last video I did has a few second clip from one of your videos where you are swatting bugs with Chris in Alaska and was aimed at a bit of humour also. Full credit has been given to you and Chris of course and I hope you are okay with that. I absolutely love your love of aviation and how you like to share it with others. I feel the same. If you ever come to Australia, I would love to go flying with you. A flight around all of Australia would be pretty amazing but I am probably dreaming to big and at my age. I could provide transport and accommodation if you ever do. Thank you for the amazing material you have provided for others. It must be many hundreds of hours of work. Thanks again!
Chelsea: "They're parts for your damn plane, so I don't wanna hear it!" 😂😂 I almost fell out of my chair laughing. I'm married to a Southern girl too. They are the best!
Another great video. I had to break out the note book again to jot down the airmanship subjects that you and Chelsea utilize. (Planning, CRM, ATC communication, sutuational awareness and sound decision making process) Thanks again.
Stephenville is a pretty cool airport, when I was down in Texas got my complex sign off and we did a lot of landings there. One of the days we flew in there, had to do a go around because there was about 20 goats in the runway… lol unfortunately didn’t have enough time and never got to go to the bbq place.
Really enjoyed this video, as a VFR pilot this makes me want an instrument rating. So jealous of being able to pop through the bottom of that cloud layer.
If you have to divert what a great place to divert to. Have had a couple of instances of needing a pop up ifr, even had one time when deviating around some storms the controller was adamant about not having me go a certain direction and said he was ready to issue me an ifr if pilot was rated and current and the aircraft was equipped and we were. ATC is incredible and a great bunch of folks, can't say enough good about them.
That's a smart tool. I know so many pilots who are just not comfortable when talking to ATC. They'll do it, no problem, but not with the same ease as all the other things they do, and they try to avoid it. Having a training tool allowing a pilot to pick up comms routine without the pressure of actual flying, works as a stress relief when airborne. Feelings are super important, and you don't want the idea that you're a burdon to others, to direct your flying. You're never a burdon to ATC, and it's not just what they are there for, it's all they are there for, and they take pride in doing it right. So if you call on ATC to guide you, you're actally doing them a favor.
Great video. I am a freshly minted IFR pilot and I am sure this info will come in handy. My wife is not a pilot but she is great with checklists and looking out for traffic….. she hates steep turns.
Thanks for sharing. Great info and "how to". Had some pork ribs off the pit on my son's ranch in Mason on Saturday. We ended up taking 3 nice bucks and and 3 hogs. Good time by all.
I love your videos. It took Chelsea a while to rope you in. So happy for both of you I can’t fly no More because of diabetes, but your videos are second best
What to consider when choosing an alternate: 1. Weather 2. Runways 3. Approaches 4. Services 5. Proximity to and quality of BBQ You're a man after my own heart, Josh.
Always great to see your videos, very much appreciate them. What are those soft shoulder harnesses you have? Mine always bug me on long trips, those would solve that. 🙂
Josh, have you or Chelsea, used the DC PRO X-2 headsets? i prefer on ear vs over the ear but i wonder how the pro-x2 would work in a 172, piper or cirrus. i see Chelsea wears David Clark's so i was not sure if she or you or one of your friends has used them in a piston aircraft.
It's been 56 years since I soled and later obtained more advanced GA ratings. I can say that there have been more than a few times that the clouds lied to me.
Dude, for a reason I just can’t quite explain, the underwing shot at 8:58 is just awesome…a Skyhawk at 11,500’ starting a descent into the cloud layer below. That’s just awesome. 🤘🏼🫡
First of all, great video! But one thing I don't understand. In all your videos when you're narrating, you are in that room with the Mac to your right. How are you doing this while travelling? Thanks for the video!
A good example of the potential risk of VFR over the top, particularly for a VFR only pilot. This is exactly why Canada does not allow VFR over the top for someone with a basic PPL license, but has a specific "VFR over the top" rating that has increased instrument training and has specific requirements about enroute (at least 5000 ft between cloud layers) and destination weather (forecast to be clear or scattered with at least 5 SM visibility) to continue to be legal. CPL and IFR ratings automatically allow for VFR OTT so this only applies to VFR only PPL pilots.
@@Malibuair Best thing to do is let ATC know what’s going on, and ask for help! They’re there to help you as a pilot, and they’re happy to give you any assistance needed. 🙌🏼
if you were concerned about extended time doing a long approach as a reason for not filing and flying IFR that seems like a poor excuse because you can always file and fly IFR and if the conditions were VFR at the destination you can cancel IFR and land VFR. Safer to file and fly then cancel, and change your destination if weather changes
@@jrholand So either go VFR and have to air-file later, or go IFR and have to divert later… Sounds like 6 one way, one-half dozen the other. I stand by my “poor excuse.” 😉
If you care about not burdening ATC then don't ask for flight following. Once you have flight following, you are in the system. To give you an IFR clearance is very little work. Notice I'm not telling people not to ask for flight following, just explaining that the work between flight following and IFR is very little more.
Oh yeah baby. Pull the throttle, dip the wing, and kick that opposite rudder. I dropped from 12,500 on top all the way down to about 1,100 AGL. Multiple cloud layers, turned out, the whole I found was a forming tornado. Last 50 miles of that trip, I was getting bounced around like no-one's business. Approached the airport at about 600 AGL as it continued dropping down (very different site picture at that altitude). Got it on the ground though, FBO guy said an instrument guy had just gone missed before I had arrived. And that's how us VFR guys find the super-slab when we get stuck on top.
Always great to see your videos, very much appreciate them. What are those soft shoulder harnesses you have? Mine always bug me on long trips, those would solve that. 🙂
“It’s parts to work on your damn plane, I don’t want to hear it!”, Josh you are truly a lucky man. She’s a keeper for sure!😀
🤣
I second that. She is pretty awesome. I loved hearing her say that.
It was at this moment he knew he'd F'd up rofl
Awesome couple🙏🏽😀
I love when we get to see Chelsea in the left seat so freaking cool to be a mechanic AND a pilot 🫶🏻
And good lookin' to boot!
@ That too, of course. Goes without saying
I wanna learn aviation mechanics because of her lol, the dual side experience speaks to my curiosity and is definitely something I would do.
Another masterclass in ADM here, this is exactly why this is by far my favorite aviation channel for a long time now.
Nice comment from ATC 9:22. Way to go professionals!
I was ferrying a VFR only Grumman trainer from Washington state to the Dallas area on June 1, and I flew over that same cloud layer in the morning. It was a bit daunting flying over such a solid layer for 2ish hours and having to trust the solid VFR observations near my refueling spots, but in the end it was one of the nicest flights I’ve flown. From one Josh to another, thanks for your great analysis and video once again!
Did u use a gps ? What do you do if you have no ground contact ?
Great discussion about talking to ATC, Josh. When I was starting out as a PP I was scared of ATC, like everyone else. But I lived out in the middle of nowhere, and consequently flew a lot of cross-country flights. My CFI in my training had encouraged me to always get VFR flight following on XC's, and this is a GREAT way to get comfortable talking to ATC in a low-stress environment. You don't just get practice talking to controllers, but you get to listen in on the other pilot-controller comms on your frequency and you can learn vicariously from them. Great video, as usual.
16:21 My friends and I did this exact thing by flying from Spinks to that airport and getting Hard Eight BBQ and then coming right back. It's a fond memory of mine.
Hey Josh, your videos recently uplifted to the next level. Keep up a good job, Sir!
I like how professional you two are in the cockpit 👍
Love the Hard 8 BBQ! Thanks Josh!
Chelsea did so awesome! High stress load and she killed it. Hard 8 is the absolute best bbq in TX! I also highly recommend their steaks, they’re incredible!!
Enjoy your videos a ton! Proudly wear your shirt and have met other fans of your work!
Very well timed video drop, reviewing Pop-Up IFR and stumbled on this. Great Video, good to know Controllers are there to help.
Hi Josh, I have downloaded every video you have done and I am now slowly watching them all. I also have a very small TH-cam channel called "Aviation" and do some very simplistic videos that are nothing compared to yours. I am still gaining experience and do not have a lot of hours. I hope I can one day reach the standard of your productions which are first class and are as professional as I have ever seen. The last video I did has a few second clip from one of your videos where you are swatting bugs with Chris in Alaska and was aimed at a bit of humour also. Full credit has been given to you and Chris of course and I hope you are okay with that. I absolutely love your love of aviation and how you like to share it with others. I feel the same. If you ever come to Australia, I would love to go flying with you. A flight around all of Australia would be pretty amazing but I am probably dreaming to big and at my age. I could provide transport and accommodation if you ever do. Thank you for the amazing material you have provided for others. It must be many hundreds of hours of work. Thanks again!
Chelsea: "They're parts for your damn plane, so I don't wanna hear it!" 😂😂 I almost fell out of my chair laughing. I'm married to a Southern girl too. They are the best!
Another great video. I had to break out the note book again to jot down the airmanship subjects that you and Chelsea utilize. (Planning, CRM, ATC communication, sutuational awareness and sound decision making process) Thanks again.
definitely appreciate ATC giving you that feedback! gotta love aviation!
Great video and really appreciated the look at the food. Especially for us who live outside the USA 😎
Stephenville is a pretty cool airport, when I was down in Texas got my complex sign off and we did a lot of landings there. One of the days we flew in there, had to do a go around because there was about 20 goats in the runway… lol unfortunately didn’t have enough time and never got to go to the bbq place.
Great video as always. Props on the Duke movie reference. “You want that gun? Pick it up. I wish you would.”
As usual another video that is teaching different scenarios and how to deal with them. Keep up the good work Josh and Chelsia. From Olive Branch, MS
Nice video, as usual. Love them. Thank you for sharing your flights with us sir.
I love flying into Stephenville. Hard 8 BBQ is always amazing
I love how you two work as a crew. I think that is so important!!
Really enjoyed this video, as a VFR pilot this makes me want an instrument rating. So jealous of being able to pop through the bottom of that cloud layer.
If you have to divert what a great place to divert to. Have had a couple of instances of needing a pop up ifr, even had one time when deviating around some storms the controller was adamant about not having me go a certain direction and said he was ready to issue me an ifr if pilot was rated and current and the aircraft was equipped and we were. ATC is incredible and a great bunch of folks, can't say enough good about them.
Great lessons on route planning and fuel concerns.
2:58 Fly on the dash board at the base of the window right hand side in front of the wire, getting a free ride, best seat in the house!
that BBQ was well worth the diversion!! looks amazing
Always great videos & it's obvious that you two are having a good time, as well..... "Good For You!" :)
I used to fly CH-47s out of Ft Hood up to Stephenville quite often, still have the big ol cup I got my sweet tea in from Hard 8 BBQ lol. Nice Vid.
When you leave after a meal at Hard Eight, you might want to refigure weight &balance. 😊
Good afternoon from Minnesota! Great episode!
Poor Josh she sounds like a Wife already!!
Parts for your Dam plane she isn't hearing it!!
❤🎉😊
That's a smart tool. I know so many pilots who are just not comfortable when talking to ATC. They'll do it, no problem, but not with the same ease as all the other things they do, and they try to avoid it. Having a training tool allowing a pilot to pick up comms routine without the pressure of actual flying, works as a stress relief when airborne. Feelings are super important, and you don't want the idea that you're a burdon to others, to direct your flying. You're never a burdon to ATC, and it's not just what they are there for, it's all they are there for, and they take pride in doing it right. So if you call on ATC to guide you, you're actally doing them a favor.
Great video. I am a freshly minted IFR pilot and I am sure this info will come in handy. My wife is not a pilot but she is great with checklists and looking out for traffic….. she hates steep turns.
Love the Hard 8
Thanks for sharing. Great info and "how to". Had some pork ribs off the pit on my son's ranch in Mason on Saturday. We ended up taking 3 nice bucks and and 3 hogs. Good time by all.
You were right over Brownwood when you decided to divert and Underwoods BBQ!
Never been there!
I love your videos. It took Chelsea a while to rope you in. So happy for both of you I can’t fly no More because of diabetes, but your videos are second best
1:49 Who makes those plugs for your air inlet vents and where did you get those?
That was a Yeager-style fantastic landing.
Artery jammer special at the end.
I have flown to Stephenville for BBQ at the Hard Eight several times. It was really good.
never in my life would I fly a single engine above the ceiling, but great video!
Depending on what the bases are at and what your plane is equipped with.
What to consider when choosing an alternate:
1. Weather
2. Runways
3. Approaches
4. Services
5. Proximity to and quality of BBQ
You're a man after my own heart, Josh.
Hard 8 is always a good choice for this boy from Kentucky 🙂
Chelsea, I LOVE how you put him his place when he's about to give you a Hard time for being on your phone!!!....KEEP IT UP!!
Beautiful flight, with an amazing woman!
Always great to see your videos, very much appreciate them.
What are those soft shoulder harnesses you have? Mine always bug me on long trips, those would solve that. 🙂
Cool, Thank you!
Legends!
Very good video!
Thanks for the video!
KSEP & Hard Eight - a great place to divert!
Why did you cancel IFR when Stephenville airport in sight? Wouldn't it be better to continue on IFR Visual approach and land.
Josh, have you or Chelsea, used the DC PRO X-2 headsets? i prefer on ear vs over the ear but i wonder how the pro-x2 would work in a 172, piper or cirrus. i see Chelsea wears David Clark's so i was not sure if she or you or one of your friends has used them in a piston aircraft.
I’ve never been VFR on top. On purpose. As I am flying in Northwest Europe, clouds are a given and hoping for a gap is hoping for problems.
How do I get my hands on one of those Garmin dress shirts?
What case and mount for ipad are you using? Sorry if mentioned in a prior video
How do you run LOP with a carbureted engine? How did you balance the fuel flow?
It's been 56 years since I soled and later obtained more advanced GA ratings. I can say that there have been more than a few times that the clouds lied to me.
Hey, what’s the link to the video that you were talking about Rio bravo?
Love Hard8...
What is the tablet app being used?
Garmin Pilot!
Are your comms on your new panel in stereo? Ie. Comm 1 on the left and Comm 2 on the right?
Dude, for a reason I just can’t quite explain, the underwing shot at 8:58 is just awesome…a Skyhawk at 11,500’ starting a descent into the cloud layer below. That’s just awesome. 🤘🏼🫡
Is that a 210?
First of all, great video! But one thing I don't understand. In all your videos when you're narrating, you are in that room with the Mac to your right. How are you doing this while travelling? Thanks for the video!
Nice BBQ now I'm hungry for brisket
You expected that weather to be vfr in DAL?
A good example of the potential risk of VFR over the top, particularly for a VFR only pilot. This is exactly why Canada does not allow VFR over the top for someone with a basic PPL license, but has a specific "VFR over the top" rating that has increased instrument training and has specific requirements about enroute (at least 5000 ft between cloud layers) and destination weather (forecast to be clear or scattered with at least 5 SM visibility) to continue to be legal. CPL and IFR ratings automatically allow for VFR OTT so this only applies to VFR only PPL pilots.
What if this happens and you're not IFR rated?
@@Malibuair Best thing to do is let ATC know what’s going on, and ask for help! They’re there to help you as a pilot, and they’re happy to give you any assistance needed. 🙌🏼
nice
if you are flying over a cloud layer, under you, it is solid or 7/8th it is called an UNDER-CAST... just saying.
if you were concerned about extended time doing a long approach as a reason for not filing and flying IFR that seems like a poor excuse because you can always file and fly IFR and if the conditions were VFR at the destination you can cancel IFR and land VFR.
Safer to file and fly then cancel, and change your destination if weather changes
@@jrholand So either go VFR and have to air-file later, or go IFR and have to divert later… Sounds like 6 one way, one-half dozen the other. I stand by my “poor excuse.” 😉
",,it was on the mains."
Come on Josh...totally staged!! 😜 You wanted BBQ but you needed an "excuse" ! 😋🤣 (Great Video, thanks!!)
If you care about not burdening ATC then don't ask for flight following. Once you have flight following, you are in the system. To give you an IFR clearance is very little work. Notice I'm not telling people not to ask for flight following, just explaining that the work between flight following and IFR is very little more.
i have never heard anyone say "making rated power" before, except for Chelsea. is there some sort of new standard for saying this?
Oh yeah baby. Pull the throttle, dip the wing, and kick that opposite rudder. I dropped from 12,500 on top all the way down to about 1,100 AGL. Multiple cloud layers, turned out, the whole I found was a forming tornado. Last 50 miles of that trip, I was getting bounced around like no-one's business. Approached the airport at about 600 AGL as it continued dropping down (very different site picture at that altitude). Got it on the ground though, FBO guy said an instrument guy had just gone missed before I had arrived. And that's how us VFR guys find the super-slab when we get stuck on top.
New intro?!
New intro!
Stuck?
Airplane parts from Amazon 🤔🤷
*tools* from Amazon.
I've been VFR on top without an IFR rating. It was about 80% overcast and thankfully our destination was only 50% overcast.
Yeah, it’s definitely a sticky situation if that 50% closes up!
That’s called VFR over the top. VFR on top is an IFR clearance.
Always great to see your videos, very much appreciate them.
What are those soft shoulder harnesses you have? Mine always bug me on long trips, those would solve that. 🙂