Emmy level performance from Oscar Isaac. The transition between identities, and the depiction of how DID comes about is phenomenal. As well as working across from ‘himself’ is nearly flawless in execution. Really hope he’s not overlooked for awards, because I feel Wandavision was only considered because the topic of TV history was evaluated, which lead to the academies taking it seriously.
Apparently, his brother played the "body extra" in scenes when they were both on screen. I wonder how many takes they took when the heavy trauma came in. Talking about his "little brother" dying. 😢
No, I don't think WandaVision was just nominated for Emmys just because its sitcom related but it is because of Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany's character. They showcase their range on how phenomenal actors they are. Just like Oscar Isaac, he portrayed a character with a DID and Elizabeth Olsen portrayed a character who's mentally-ill and suffers with her grief. I just think this two has character parallels which makes WandaVision and Moon Knight the best shows on Disney+ (not including the Marvel Netflix shows).
@@selle7031 What is this response? I know their great performances, my point is that the academy only acknowledged it because it made the old white men remember their childhood of watching TV due to the premise. They would have overlooked the great work done by all the performers because “well it’s Marvel”, if not for it leaning into their hubris. Which is why I’m worried for Moonknight, as it hasn’t got anything for the ‘traditional’ voting member.
@@J_Tevo I do think Moon Knight will have several nominations not just because of "old white men being reminiscent of their favourite sitcoms/TV shows" but because of representing a psychological disorder that the hollywood doesn't seem to often showcase through their movies and shows.
I think he created steven to cope with his trauma and he created Jake to cope with is anger and guilt towards his mother. Marc is the medium between the ultra-passive Steven and ultra-aggressive Jake. With Steven in the Duat, and Marc in the field of reeds I think Jake will be the one who goes through the gates of Osiris. IDK where this will end or how/if it'll fit into the greater MCU but I here for the full ride
Yea I said this afew weeks back after episode 3 but this episode ties the WHY into the equation but you are right on the money I reckon. I wondered why the 3rd personality was so much more brutal than Marc but now I understand cuz as a man we all have that demon that if we don't control can get pretty dark and destructive.
@@shanebovell6733 exactly, I've also seen that people are thinking that the one that went off the handle with the busted nose in the beginning of the episode was Jake.
@@sreekarmovva2631 sometimes people don't know they have alters. Jake could be a hidden one. Even Marc was confused in episode 3 over who killed the cultists in Egypt. Steven didnt and Marc didn't, has to be Jake
I like that in the first episode that little girl in the start asked Steven if it sucked getting rejected from the field of reeds and he actually doesn't get in
*EASTER EGG* The way Steven turned into a statue looks almost identical to the way Crawly sits on the bench near the fountain like a statue! Even the hand gesture is similar!
0:42 The thing is, Mark's nose was not damaged in the previous episode, if you look carefully and listen intently his demeanor and voice are a lot different than Mark or Steven, which makes me believe this is actually Jake and not Mark, people would expect a really grand entry of Jake but this maybe Marvel's subtle hint at introducing him. Edit: also he talked really less during that confrontation.
Yes.. Exactly.. I think as Marc made up his Stephen character as his escaping the reality and having the perfect life..Maybe Jake is his anxious and miserable personality as Steven didn't remember insidence like hi childhood abuse at all
Yes! There was definitely something different about him and while watching I was kind of like wait, why’s his nose busted and then it’s not so that could very well be a subtle intro of Jake in the series.
I feel like if we don't get the third personality then it will be alright. The show has been doing great without needing to see the third personality. We at least KNOW he exists (unlike MEPHISTO) and plus they literally show him in this episode anyway he was the first one we saw with Dr. Harrow with the bloody nose. This was the best episode and best performance from Oscar hands down which makes me wonder what's going to happen in the final episode. I was actually sad for Steven as much as Marc with their childhood. I wish this series had two seasons instead of one.
@@aarongeorge9441 When he is talking to Harrow and says something about feeling like a million bucks, he has a New York accent and a cut on his nose that neither Marc nor Steven have.
@@5manrocks1YT He also instantly scans his surroundings for something to defend himself with. I think the final alter is going to explain how Marc killed his mother out of self defence, and I think the fact that he picked up that weapon was a dead giveaway. I'd be able to identify that instinct anywhere. This is something that a child or person develops when they wake up every day to physical attacks, whether by a parent or some other force. In this case, we can be certain it's his mother. There's even further evidence for this in the scene where she starts beating him with a belt but Marc takes Steven out of the room before he can see anything, and he hears it. This is quite literally some deep psychological shit they're successfully murdering here.
@@5manrocks1YT yeah at that time i thought of it too but dr.harrow calling him marc and afterwards marc remebering what dr. Harrow said about the struggling mind finding shelter really threw me off
At this point I don’t even care about a third alter, how potent and emotional the episode was is gonna stay with me long after the finale. Maybe I have my own traumas to process in a way?? This whole thing carried the same “episode 4” intensity .
I think we did see jake. The moment where he got injected that wasn't marc or steven. The accent was off and the outburst of anger felt very much like jake
I think they heavily implied the existence of a 3rd personality without plans of actually showing jake this season. Which I’m totally fine with. It’s better to focus on the development of just 2 characters, while leaving open room for a 3rd later down the line.
This episode left me just speechless. Couldn't help but watch it again. Could not believe how much I cried. Everybody who was abused as a kid can identify. 😭
At the 5 minute mark, we actually get to meet Jake. His New York accent is very distinct and stood out from Marc and obviously steven's dialect. Hopefully they aren't going to drag Jake's identity until season 2 or wherever else in the mcu.
You know the sad part of the depiction in the “memory cabins”, he sees his younger brother in the cabin which has all the people he has killed. Implying that in his memory he thinks that he killed his brother, which is devastating!
Yes, absolutely! It breaks my heart because that really was his mother’s conditioning that came from her grief and blame. He was just a child and it was an accident. And he has been carrying around that sense of blame and guilt his whole life. So sad.
God i criedddd, the end and when marc transitions from marc as steven on the read crying for his mom’s death, it was so tough to watch💔💔💔 Issac is a phenomenal actor🙏
The crew of this show-Oscar Isaac, the writers the directors etc. have made a fascinating character using Moon Knight.But it feels like this show needs a 2 hour, movie level, finale- minimum-to satisfy the completion of whereever they want to take the story and to allow the audience to feel they got a payoff they can appreciate, even if my expectations aren't met.
They did not 'make' a character. This is based off the comics. Sure, Steven Grant is different, but the way they're approaching it is pretty well informed by the comics nonetheless. The trauma, the guilt, the hints at religious angst, the DID disorientation, the struggles with being manipulated, all these concepts were introduced to the character by comics in some manner creators and they should be given credit for it too
@@rickrivers2021 I've read a little bit of the comic books. It's to the life and depth of the character is that I'm refering, not so much the newness of an entity. OI et al have bought a fullness of being that is remarkable, breathing life into the otherwise (to me) clay figurine that is the comic book presentation. I mean no offense to the writers or illustrators of the comic books, recognizing, in fact, there is no Moon Knight without them. But I never was so emotionally or psychologically invested into the various alters of Marc Spectre without the honor of witnessing the MCU's interpretation and presentation of him.
@@u64770 Yeah, comic books build, and the writers introduce and add depth to past ones. So on the one hand, a single creative team may do less then in the movie (though not necessarily). But on the other hand, the character almost always ends up being more deep and nuanced overall, because of all the time, story, and creative minds contributing. Moon Knight is a very nuanced and complex character in the comics, unusually so. But if you've only read a little bit, this can be hard to see.
@@rickrivers2021 Robert Kirkman, you probably well know, made the Walking Dead. I read the first comic after watching the show, and realized that without the actors and writers and directors of it I would have disregarded the amazing world and storylines he created. The comics didn't do much for me, but that could just be me not adequately appreciating the medium or me not looking past whatever it was that turned me off. Andrew Lincoln, Steven Yeun, Danai Guerera and all the other cast; Greg Nicotero, Angela Kang, and all the other producers and directors; all the crew members, etc. made a world on tv that made me highly respect Kirkman's work. I feel like this with Moon Knight. Before, the tv show, Robert Kirkman would have just been some guy with a cool job to me. Now I want to be among the many to show him my means of surviving a zombie apocalypse. So I know we've talked back and forth and apologize if I still am too obtuse to get the point you are highlighting. The comic book writers and artists deserve high praise for creating the worlds and storylines I best connect to when others use the primary material and convert it to a audiovisual medium that I can more easily digest.
This episode hit like a ton of bricks. I'm curious what people who have DID or loved ones with DID think about this show, and this episode in particular.
I don’t have DID but I’ve known people who do and it can be generated from various traumas including abuse so this was extremely accurate on that front. And personalities can have elements of a certain part of someone’s life just like how Marc created Steven based on his favorite movie.
@@Megaproductions302 *alters, not personalities. The term is alters. The reason being alters are much more complex than a simple personality hence why they moved away from calling them that
Theres someone with DID currently reviewing the series. She didn't like some words being used, like 'Broken'. BUT since the main characters themselves state that "they're not broken, they just need help". It's fine. They liked the 'mind palace', but people with DID typically aren't violent, if anything they are less likely to be violent than the average person due to trauma. So Jake's presence is kinda iffy, but at least it's not James McAvoy 'The Beast' alter level of violence.
@@winterwolf211 maybe, but I watched the lad bible or whatever that channel is called, they interviewed a woman with DID. One of her alters was trying to hurt, even kill her, and hurt others
@@krwawyrzeznik they do often threaten to or do hurt the body. Absolutely. But they VERY rarely hurt other people, other than in self defense. They are more likely to hurt themselves than others.
This episode really hit home, there was a tragedy in my family when I was 9 that my family never spoke of for 20 years, not until my aunt passed away in 2016 from cancer. When that happened all the memories from when I was 9 came flooding back. I’ll be 36 in May, since last year I’ve been talking to a therapist weekly to work through it all, everything just got really hard to cope with, but things are looking brighter now. I saw an interview recently with Don Cheadle, where he said acting projects find him at a certain point when he needs them, emotionally, like the universe makes him work through his problems through his art, and I found that aspects of self love I never learned growing up have presented themselves to me in marvel shows and movies just as I’m learning about them in therapy, it’s uncanny...
I finished this episode and I literally just said "wow" about 12 times. I got up and paced around the room three or four times. Cried. I was just stuck. Achara is right: Did NOT expect Marvel to go there. But I respect them all the more because they did. 👏
I love that as far as the MCU Egyptian gods are concerned, Steven is real. He’s got a soul. Marc/Steven/third are just many souls inhabiting the same body. I’m an atheist but I find that very comforting and respectful.
I’m just thinking maybe the lost of his little brother may be why both Marc and Steven are both so specific about not hurting children 🤷🏻♂️ I mean, hurting children isn’t a good thing in the first place but just a quality that both alters seem to have quite prominently.
If moon knight can stick the landing it will become easily the best MCU show may be one of the best comic shows ever or even one of the best tv shows ever period. It is phenomenal so far, really hope they can stick the landing.
Jake appeared briefly when he was in the office with Harrow and he tried to attack him with the object before he was sedated by Harrow’s henchmen. rewatch the scene & listen closely to the way he was talking, he sounded nothing like Marc/Steven.
Really man the sheer amount of emotional trauma they displayed in this episode, was....oof i can't even describe how i felt at the scene in the street when Marc broke down crying
13:47 Or maybe since Marc faced his past and confronted it, steven went dormant in his mind since he doesn't need him right now, until some other traumatic thing happens and steven surfaces again
Yeah, Steven dying....makes NO sense in a DID sense...alters CAN'T die. Integration and fusion isn't death. So I, too, hope it's dormency and not actual death.
I cried when Steven felt on the sand, I know Marc doesn't need his alter anymore since he dealt with his inner demons but he was so funny and adorable. But he has to come back if Moonkight will be in next projects, him having DID is a important part of his character in the comics
Just when I thought I couldn’t come to love and care for a character as much as I did for Wanda in Wandavision! I did not expect Moon Knight to make me cry as hard as episode 8 of Wandavision, but here I am, with a eyes red and raw from wiping tears away. It’s easy to dismiss Steven as just a “stress ball” but no, he is as much of a person now as Marc. Also if Oscar Issac had better be nominated for best actor at the Emmy’s. This is honestly the best performance of his life.
Marc and Steven reconciled their pain. But Marc & Jake haven't reconciled their rage/anger. So, there's room to introduce Jake in a way that will make sense to the story. I just don't know how they can with one episode left. I haven't read the comics but I've heard that the alters come back.
It’s so interesting that early on we perceive Marc as the stronger of the two because he can physically protect both of them and summon the powers of Moon Knight. Peeling back more of Marc’s mind we realize Steven actually protects Marc even more so ( and is possibly even the strongest of the two) with traumas and life hurdles he can’t deal with. Their reliance on each other is nicely written.
Omg this episode is healing for all the people who has traumatic experience in the childhood. When Steven said that you were just child, I kind of forgive myself as well.
I think there's a symbolism when her mother first didn't attend his birthday..He blows out all the candles except one..Which represents his need for Steven (Maybe even Jake) as his mother is against him through his traumatic experience..Even his father has to blow the last candle two times(Maybe a hint to "Jake" and Steven)
The part when marc was standing across the street the day his mother died, and when he went on his knees on the middle of the street and started crying. That scene was so emotional. oscar is such an excellent actor.
I just realized that at the beginning in the doctor Harrow office, we don't see Mark or Steven but Jake... the way he speaks, his mouth, eye movement, his voice. Everything is different from those two.
I think either we already saw the 3rd personality, or they did a reference to it, because when ‘Marc’ wakes up in the office the first time with the bloody nose, he had a Brooklyn accent that we hadn’t heard before, as well as his personality was different then marc or steven.
This episode was just gold, even narratively speaking - it allowed us to understand Marc's character better and it filled a lot of gaps in Steven's life. It's like Steven is a part of his psyche that Marc has been trying to protect since childhood. It's also worth noting how Marc always gets burdened with guilt - over his brother and Layla's father.
And I forgot to mention one more thing. Eric Voss is a real magician. He predicted nearly 70% of this episode in the past week. The Underworld and it's comparison to the Ancestral Plane, and the journey through the Field of Reeds and what not, it was amazing. Otherwise he has a source in Marvel Studio or he's a real Nerd.
This is one of those episodes/series you have to watch again to connect the dots from the reveals at the end to the beginning of the show. Marvel exploring D.I.D. where it usually starts w/ childhood trauma.
Lmao being a Rick Riordan fan is really paying off for his series 😂 we knew that the underworld was called Duat, the heart gets weighted with the feather of truth, the hippo girl is called Taweret and very nice. It made me feel so smart 😂
I'm afraid Steven's sacrifice could be what helps Marc become whole again. But also, there's still Jake to consider, whom did appear in the episode quite subtly, if anyone pays attention. On that Spanish song that plays towards the end, the lyrics "beyond the sun" are repeated.
I don't think he meant to sacrifice himself though, he looked terrified when he got up from falling and wanted to get back to the boat. He was willing to save Marc but I don't think he wanted to die doing so which is why I think (and hope) he'll be back in the last ep.
@@neomoscoso10 But when he got to the field of reeds, the moon in the end credits was back to the first cycle again, to me saying that Marc isn’t ‘whole’ without Steven - I think the only reason it wasn’t balanced was because the third alters heart wasn’t being judged so it was uneven - so when Steven went overboard it was like ‘well we’re back down to two now so that’ll do’ and let him through
I want Steven back please 😭😭😭 I cried so much after watching Steven turning into sand. After watching the friendship between Marc and Steven, I could not digest the last scene. Please don't disappoint me in the last episode 😢
It feel directly in chest when Marc standing on street in front of house, and walk away from whatever situation was there. Then suddenly he feel emotional about lost his mother and tell himself "I cannot let you(his mother) have this". It means he didn't want to show that his feel of sadness after her death. Even after years of abusing from his mother, he still mourn for her death. What a heavy emotional toll he has to take.
I have a crazy theory for Black Panther, Black Panthers serve the Egyptian Godess Bast right? So maybe in Love an thunder Gorr attacks Bast and so Chadwick Boseman's Black panther (an avatar for Bast) is on a dangerous mission left without Bast's protection and so the enemy prevails in killing him
I felt it too Jaby. The scene where the Marc was in the street and the way he was broken made me cry honestly. It hit me so hard. I didn't expect it for a Marvel show as well
9:32 Best part of this reaction was Jaby thinking he was about to push his mother down the stairs 😂🤣 So hilarious that his mind went there. Moon Knight is epic. Hope they stick the landing🤞
Nah cuz this episode (and especially Oscar's acting) had me in SHAMBLES. I was crying so much... He better get an Emmy for this! But besides, I really enjoy how this episode was structured. As a fan of Egyptian mythology I wasn't confused about anything on that part which honestly really helped out. I'm honestly so happy we're getting this in a marvel show! I also loved the deep dive into Mark's DID. It's quite different for everyone and Steven has been revealed to be the spiritual protector, he fronts when Mark is in extreme emotional stress. No wonder he doesn't remember any trauma at all. In this show they take the route of Mark being rather united with his alters. They ARE separate people but don't have a full life (like Steven only living a lie). When he lost Steven his scales balanced because he finally truly accepted him and the trauma he suppressed.
The "uncovering memories through the door" trope was done by both WandaVision and Moon Knight. The difference being Wanda's memories were pretty straightforward and hence had fairly straight path to the day the bomb dropped, while Marc's memories are just borderline insanity and basically a labyrinth of different traumatic experiences. Same technique but adapted to different characters masterfully.
14:40 Best way to see this is that, Marc used Steven as his shield. One will "remember" his mom's beatings, the other will make him "forget". It's how the id of the mind works when forced to play its hand in response to such an extreme moment. Basically, Steven is the id, marc would be either the ego or superego, if we go by Sgmund Freud's theories about how the mind works. :D
Steven created his own hero, likely named Jake. Jake is the one who saved Steven in the Alps and Cairo. Jake is the one who set up Steven's date and replaced Gus. Steven was created to protect Marc, to keep a safe place for him. Steven had to be protected at all costs, as we saw Marc try in this episode. When Marc isn't there to protect Steven, Steven conjured up his own persona, and I think we saw him on the boat protecting Marc. Next week is going to be wild. Can't wait! This is the MCU's best TV series, right here! Emmys for everyone! Edit: 22:43 Khonshu is a jerk, no doubt. But he's not a cold blooded killer. I think the bones we saw in a flashback were there just to foreshadow. Khonshu wanted an avatar and used Marc's final moments to his advantage, that's what I got out of that scene. Khonshu got tired of sitting in his temple doing nothing. With Arthur gone and him banished, he was itching to get back into the game, and he was going to do whatever it took to do that. Khonshu's a chief manipulator, sure, but he did what he did to stop Ammit, and he sees humans as servants, at least up until Marc/Steven. Khonshu's final moments make me think he realized that he misjudged humans and hoped that Marc would give him another chance, which is why I think he asked Steven to tell Marc to find his tomb.
Another great Reaction, you guys. Thanks. Regarding Steven's actual fate, I want to point out of the entertaining and fascinating allegorical phantasmagoric principles established in this episode, that the Anubis scales BALANCED after overboard Steven began to silicify THOUGH his heart remained on the scale Marc's. Possibly signifying that disparate removed Steven fulfilled his original purpose for Marc incepting him and still exists but advanced to his new role of being the accepted and welcome part of Marc of his "inner brother."
Look at Marc’s face when he was being choked. You can see Jake come out when he grabbed the glass paperweight. Marc’s not getting out until he accepts his violent side too.
Achara definitely understood the ending. I was watching some other reactions and people were just confused and mad that Steven is gone, but they forget it's kinda the reason now that the scales balanced which makes the ending I think even more sad realizing this
The 3rd him "Jake" was the one who suffered the punishment. that Mark thought and Steven suffered. but Steven could not cope with the abuse leading to the birth of "Jake". that might make "Jake" a psychopath.
That make sense.. because if Steven is the one abused, then he would have remember that somehow right.. but he didn't remember anything about the abusing.. so after Wendy entrance Jake must have to be in control of the body, so that he's grown up to be more ruthless
this episode was so emotional!!😢😢 and what is up with every marvel parent like ego the living planet , thanos , odin , howard stark(wasn't that bad but not the ideal dad) and now mark's mom
OMFG, this episode was f'in brilliant. I am beyond speechless. This show deserves ALL the Emmys, especially Oscar Isaac! This has to be his magnum opus as an actor. Also, to FINALLY hear the name "Moon Knight" in this show smiled my soul. Don't tell me Steven Grant is gone, or I will lose my mind. This episode broke me dearly. I better see Oscar Isaac get his Emmy this year, or else I will freak out. I can't imagine what the finale next week will be, and I am hyped to see it.
I do not believe that actually Arthur Harrow as the Psychiatrist. I believe that’s Marc trying to cope with him being forced to relive his traumas and so created an inner world. “Inner worlds” is an aspect of DID where individuals will create worlds in their mind that has many features that mirror real life memories. Dr Harrow bringing up the concept of inner worlds also makes me feel like this is the case.
*this episode is almost just like the penultimate episode of WandaVision, seeing how things unfolded by going through marcs memories, watching all the trauma he's endured that led him to create Steven, just like wanda with Westview*
Cool watching it with you. Of course I need to point out where I don’t agree… The part of Marc breaking down at his mums funeral and in then suddenly switching was brilliant - because that was the whole point of his DID. Steven were created as a coping mechanism in exactly those kind of situations, so it really pointedly showed how it worked. And that switch was what broke me - the blame, the shouting, the agony of Marc shown was heart breaking, but the switch just showed HOW terrible it was and how much Marc couldn’t deal with it.
23:40 - Random side story but about "young versions casting". The CW show Supergirl cast teenage versions of Melissa Benoist and Chyler Leigh. When I saw them for the first time, I was utterly floored. Very similar faces and pinpoint accurate mannerism. At first, I almost wondered for a (long) moment if the young Kara Danvers was actually Melissa with make-up and specific CGI.
Emmy level performance from Oscar Isaac. The transition between identities, and the depiction of how DID comes about is phenomenal. As well as working across from ‘himself’ is nearly flawless in execution.
Really hope he’s not overlooked for awards, because I feel Wandavision was only considered because the topic of TV history was evaluated, which lead to the academies taking it seriously.
Apparently, his brother played the "body extra" in scenes when they were both on screen. I wonder how many takes they took when the heavy trauma came in. Talking about his "little brother" dying. 😢
Man you are spitting facts
No, I don't think WandaVision was just nominated for Emmys just because its sitcom related but it is because of Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany's character. They showcase their range on how phenomenal actors they are.
Just like Oscar Isaac, he portrayed a character with a DID and Elizabeth Olsen portrayed a character who's mentally-ill and suffers with her grief. I just think this two has character parallels which makes WandaVision and Moon Knight the best shows on Disney+ (not including the Marvel Netflix shows).
@@selle7031 What is this response?
I know their great performances, my point is that the academy only acknowledged it because it made the old white men remember their childhood of watching TV due to the premise. They would have overlooked the great work done by all the performers because “well it’s Marvel”, if not for it leaning into their hubris.
Which is why I’m worried for Moonknight, as it hasn’t got anything for the ‘traditional’ voting member.
@@J_Tevo I do think Moon Knight will have several nominations not just because of "old white men being reminiscent of their favourite sitcoms/TV shows" but because of representing a psychological disorder that the hollywood doesn't seem to often showcase through their movies and shows.
If this was a movie Oscar would be in heavy consideration for winning an Oscar hahaha. Terrific performances and what a mind trip, literally!
He will definitely win an Emmy
It can't be a coincidence that a lot of people actually do as their name suggests 😳
stating FACTS
@@harshitmishra8431 I hope he does! 🤞
@@comradepeter87 hahaha truth
I think he created steven to cope with his trauma and he created Jake to cope with is anger and guilt towards his mother. Marc is the medium between the ultra-passive Steven and ultra-aggressive Jake. With Steven in the Duat, and Marc in the field of reeds I think Jake will be the one who goes through the gates of Osiris. IDK where this will end or how/if it'll fit into the greater MCU but I here for the full ride
Yea I said this afew weeks back after episode 3 but this episode ties the WHY into the equation but you are right on the money I reckon. I wondered why the 3rd personality was so much more brutal than Marc but now I understand cuz as a man we all have that demon that if we don't control can get pretty dark and destructive.
@@shanebovell6733 exactly, I've also seen that people are thinking that the one that went off the handle with the busted nose in the beginning of the episode was Jake.
But how did the scales balanced without marc telling steven about jake? I mean they should tell what they are hiding to each other right?
@@sreekarmovva2631 Marc probably doesn’t know about Jake
@@sreekarmovva2631 sometimes people don't know they have alters. Jake could be a hidden one. Even Marc was confused in episode 3 over who killed the cultists in Egypt. Steven didnt and Marc didn't, has to be Jake
I didn't expect this episode to go this deep and heavy. I cried so much
Me too
you definitely need more balls
I know. I feel sad too but not on the verge of crying
@@mavvynne444 same lol
I like that in the first episode that little girl in the start asked Steven if it sucked getting rejected from the field of reeds and he actually doesn't get in
OOF
Poor lad..
Uff
holy shit !!
Omg 😭😭
*EASTER EGG*
The way Steven turned into a statue looks almost identical to the way Crawly sits on the bench near the fountain like a statue!
Even the hand gesture is similar!
Nah, I don't think so. But, we'll wait for Erik voss
@@aarthikaliraj4131 lol so if Erik says it then it’s real?
@@DanielRodriguez-eh1qd erik usually have explanation for it
Didn't you know nothing is correct unless Erik says so? EVEN IF IT APPEARED IN THE EPISODE 😂
@@cruzjacknife8699 lol
5:04 "Marc, why is there a child--"
That cutoff really cracked me up😂😂
I was not ready. There were moments that I forgot Marc & Steven were not portrayed by twins! Oscar is wonderful.
0:42 The thing is, Mark's nose was not damaged in the previous episode, if you look carefully and listen intently his demeanor and voice are a lot different than Mark or Steven, which makes me believe this is actually Jake and not Mark, people would expect a really grand entry of Jake but this maybe Marvel's subtle hint at introducing him.
Edit: also he talked really less during that confrontation.
Exactly !!
You definitely know it’s Jake by the way he’s talking at 1:34
@@kryptonxxx3017 even the way he looks , his eyes, his demeanor
Yes.. Exactly.. I think as Marc made up his Stephen character as his escaping the reality and having the perfect life..Maybe Jake is his anxious and miserable personality as Steven didn't remember insidence like hi childhood abuse at all
Yes! There was definitely something different about him and while watching I was kind of like wait, why’s his nose busted and then it’s not so that could very well be a subtle intro of Jake in the series.
I feel like if we don't get the third personality then it will be alright. The show has been doing great without needing to see the third personality. We at least KNOW he exists (unlike MEPHISTO) and plus they literally show him in this episode anyway he was the first one we saw with Dr. Harrow with the bloody nose. This was the best episode and best performance from Oscar hands down which makes me wonder what's going to happen in the final episode. I was actually sad for Steven as much as Marc with their childhood. I wish this series had two seasons instead of one.
When do they show the third personality in this one?
@@aarongeorge9441 When he is talking to Harrow and says something about feeling like a million bucks, he has a New York accent and a cut on his nose that neither Marc nor Steven have.
@@5manrocks1YT He also instantly scans his surroundings for something to defend himself with. I think the final alter is going to explain how Marc killed his mother out of self defence, and I think the fact that he picked up that weapon was a dead giveaway. I'd be able to identify that instinct anywhere. This is something that a child or person develops when they wake up every day to physical attacks, whether by a parent or some other force. In this case, we can be certain it's his mother. There's even further evidence for this in the scene where she starts beating him with a belt but Marc takes Steven out of the room before he can see anything, and he hears it. This is quite literally some deep psychological shit they're successfully murdering here.
@@5manrocks1YT yeah at that time i thought of it too but dr.harrow calling him marc and afterwards marc remebering what dr. Harrow said about the struggling mind finding shelter really threw me off
@@5manrocks1YT but you are right the scar on the face is definitely something marc and steven doesnt have when visiting dr.harrow
At this point I don’t even care about a third alter, how potent and emotional the episode was is gonna stay with me long after the finale. Maybe I have my own traumas to process in a way?? This whole thing carried the same “episode 4” intensity .
I think we did see jake. The moment where he got injected that wasn't marc or steven. The accent was off and the outburst of anger felt very much like jake
@@shadowx8145 Jake has to represent his rage and anger.
I think they heavily implied the existence of a 3rd personality without plans of actually showing jake this season. Which I’m totally fine with.
It’s better to focus on the development of just 2 characters, while leaving open room for a 3rd later down the line.
@@nathantomaneng7259 I heard that marvel confirm that there's no season 2 of moon knight, I hope it's not true
@@rajahmacaumbang2864 Even If it's true I'm sure we will see him in the future Movies
This episode left me just speechless. Couldn't help but watch it again. Could not believe how much I cried. Everybody who was abused as a kid can identify. 😭
Definitely brought some things back.
So hard
This episode was starting to hate Marc's mother.
At the 5 minute mark, we actually get to meet Jake. His New York accent is very distinct and stood out from Marc and obviously steven's dialect. Hopefully they aren't going to drag Jake's identity until season 2 or wherever else in the mcu.
That's what am saying
I really hope that they show Jake in the next episode
You know the sad part of the depiction in the “memory cabins”, he sees his younger brother in the cabin which has all the people he has killed. Implying that in his memory he thinks that he killed his brother, which is devastating!
Yes, absolutely! It breaks my heart because that really was his mother’s conditioning that came from her grief and blame. He was just a child and it was an accident. And he has been carrying around that sense of blame and guilt his whole life. So sad.
God i criedddd, the end and when marc transitions from marc as steven on the read crying for his mom’s death, it was so tough to watch💔💔💔 Issac is a phenomenal actor🙏
What a rollercoaster of emotions this was, I hope Steven will return
I think Steven was meant to die for balance to be restored two is a party, three is a crowd🤷
Screw Jake, I want Steven back
@@scoopskipotatoes1728 same i miss him
steven has to return..
@@scoopskipotatoes1728 umm... Who is jake? I've seen people talking about him
I'm continually impressed by Oscar's acting chops. This episode in particular was a great example of what he's capable of.
The crew of this show-Oscar Isaac, the writers the directors etc. have made a fascinating character using Moon Knight.But it feels like this show needs a 2 hour, movie level, finale- minimum-to satisfy the completion of whereever they want to take the story and to allow the audience to feel they got a payoff they can appreciate, even if my expectations aren't met.
Agreed
They did not 'make' a character. This is based off the comics. Sure, Steven Grant is different, but the way they're approaching it is pretty well informed by the comics nonetheless.
The trauma, the guilt, the hints at religious angst, the DID disorientation, the struggles with being manipulated, all these concepts were introduced to the character by comics in some manner creators and they should be given credit for it too
@@rickrivers2021 I've read a little bit of the comic books. It's to the life and depth of the character is that I'm refering, not so much the newness of an entity. OI et al have bought a fullness of being that is remarkable, breathing life into the otherwise (to me) clay figurine that is the comic book presentation. I mean no offense to the writers or illustrators of the comic books, recognizing, in fact, there is no Moon Knight without them. But I never was so emotionally or psychologically invested into the various alters of Marc Spectre without the honor of witnessing the MCU's interpretation and presentation of him.
@@u64770 Yeah, comic books build, and the writers introduce and add depth to past ones. So on the one hand, a single creative team may do less then in the movie (though not necessarily). But on the other hand, the character almost always ends up being more deep and nuanced overall, because of all the time, story, and creative minds contributing. Moon Knight is a very nuanced and complex character in the comics, unusually so. But if you've only read a little bit, this can be hard to see.
@@rickrivers2021 Robert Kirkman, you probably well know, made the Walking Dead. I read the first comic after watching the show, and realized that without the actors and writers and directors of it I would have disregarded the amazing world and storylines he created. The comics didn't do much for me, but that could just be me not adequately appreciating the medium or me not looking past whatever it was that turned me off. Andrew Lincoln, Steven Yeun, Danai Guerera and all the other cast; Greg Nicotero, Angela Kang, and all the other producers and directors; all the crew members, etc. made a world on tv that made me highly respect Kirkman's work. I feel like this with Moon Knight. Before, the tv show, Robert Kirkman would have just been some guy with a cool job to me. Now I want to be among the many to show him my means of surviving a zombie apocalypse.
So I know we've talked back and forth and apologize if I still am too obtuse to get the point you are highlighting. The comic book writers and artists deserve high praise for creating the worlds and storylines I best connect to when others use the primary material and convert it to a audiovisual medium that I can more easily digest.
This episode hit like a ton of bricks. I'm curious what people who have DID or loved ones with DID think about this show, and this episode in particular.
I don’t have DID but I’ve known people who do and it can be generated from various traumas including abuse so this was extremely accurate on that front. And personalities can have elements of a certain part of someone’s life just like how Marc created Steven based on his favorite movie.
@@Megaproductions302 *alters, not personalities. The term is alters. The reason being alters are much more complex than a simple personality hence why they moved away from calling them that
Theres someone with DID currently reviewing the series. She didn't like some words being used, like 'Broken'. BUT since the main characters themselves state that "they're not broken, they just need help". It's fine.
They liked the 'mind palace', but people with DID typically aren't violent, if anything they are less likely to be violent than the average person due to trauma. So Jake's presence is kinda iffy, but at least it's not James McAvoy 'The Beast' alter level of violence.
@@winterwolf211 maybe, but I watched the lad bible or whatever that channel is called, they interviewed a woman with DID. One of her alters was trying to hurt, even kill her, and hurt others
@@krwawyrzeznik they do often threaten to or do hurt the body. Absolutely. But they VERY rarely hurt other people, other than in self defense. They are more likely to hurt themselves than others.
This episode really hit home, there was a tragedy in my family when I was 9 that my family never spoke of for 20 years, not until my aunt passed away in 2016 from cancer. When that happened all the memories from when I was 9 came flooding back.
I’ll be 36 in May, since last year I’ve been talking to a therapist weekly to work through it all, everything just got really hard to cope with, but things are looking brighter now.
I saw an interview recently with Don Cheadle, where he said acting projects find him at a certain point when he needs them, emotionally, like the universe makes him work through his problems through his art, and I found that aspects of self love I never learned growing up have presented themselves to me in marvel shows and movies just as I’m learning about them in therapy, it’s uncanny...
I finished this episode and I literally just said "wow" about 12 times. I got up and paced around the room three or four times. Cried. I was just stuck. Achara is right: Did NOT expect Marvel to go there. But I respect them all the more because they did. 👏
I love that as far as the MCU Egyptian gods are concerned, Steven is real. He’s got a soul. Marc/Steven/third are just many souls inhabiting the same body.
I’m an atheist but I find that very comforting and respectful.
I’m just thinking maybe the lost of his little brother may be why both Marc and Steven are both so specific about not hurting children 🤷🏻♂️ I mean, hurting children isn’t a good thing in the first place but just a quality that both alters seem to have quite prominently.
If moon knight can stick the landing it will become easily the best MCU show may be one of the best comic shows ever or even one of the best tv shows ever period. It is phenomenal so far, really hope they can stick the landing.
Best TV show 🧢....there are far more great shows than this
@@RohanKumar-gx9br stf
@@RohanKumar-gx9br What a compelling argument
@@RohanKumar-gx9br doesn’t mean people can’t think it’s the best for them lmao
@@RohanKumar-gx9br don’t watch moon knight vids if you don’t like the show
Jake appeared briefly when he was in the office with Harrow and he tried to attack him with the object before he was sedated by Harrow’s henchmen. rewatch the scene & listen closely to the way he was talking, he sounded nothing like Marc/Steven.
agreed,Jake has more of a brooklyn accent
Agreed
That episode deserves some awards! For Oscar Issac's acting, story line and director.
One of the Marvell’s best episode! His acting omg..he needs an Oscar for this.
*this episode alone is better than almost every mcu series as of right now*
Really man the sheer amount of emotional trauma they displayed in this episode, was....oof i can't even describe how i felt at the scene in the street when Marc broke down crying
Loki was pretty good too
@@priyabrata6152 same dude... haven't sobbed that hard since WandaVision
Personally for me Agents of SHIELD and Jessica Jones have had episodes that hit harder than this
13:47 Or maybe since Marc faced his past and confronted it, steven went dormant in his mind since he doesn't need him right now, until some other traumatic thing happens and steven surfaces again
Yeah, Steven dying....makes NO sense in a DID sense...alters CAN'T die. Integration and fusion isn't death. So I, too, hope it's dormency and not actual death.
you don't know how eagerly I was waiting for this reaction for today's episode😭😭😭😭
I cried when Steven felt on the sand, I know Marc doesn't need his alter anymore since he dealt with his inner demons but he was so funny and adorable.
But he has to come back if Moonkight will be in next projects, him having DID is a important part of his character in the comics
Just when I thought I couldn’t come to love and care for a character as much as I did for Wanda in Wandavision! I did not expect Moon Knight to make me cry as hard as episode 8 of Wandavision, but here I am, with a eyes red and raw from wiping tears away. It’s easy to dismiss Steven as just a “stress ball” but no, he is as much of a person now as Marc.
Also if Oscar Issac had better be nominated for best actor at the Emmy’s. This is honestly the best performance of his life.
the acting on that man is god damn phenomenal. this is definitely the best episode in all of the mcu series so far.
Can we all just take a moment and appreciate the actor who played young Marc, he was phenomenal 👏
Marc and Steven reconciled their pain. But Marc & Jake haven't reconciled their rage/anger. So, there's room to introduce Jake in a way that will make sense to the story. I just don't know how they can with one episode left.
I haven't read the comics but I've heard that the alters come back.
It’s so interesting that early on we perceive Marc as the stronger of the two because he can physically protect both of them and summon the powers of Moon Knight. Peeling back more of Marc’s mind we realize Steven actually protects Marc even more so ( and is possibly even the strongest of the two) with traumas and life hurdles he can’t deal with. Their reliance on each other is nicely written.
Steven is such a pure of heart
i gotta be honest i cried so much. so strong movie episode
Omg this episode is healing for all the people who has traumatic experience in the childhood.
When Steven said that you were just child, I kind of forgive myself as well.
This episode was amazing!! I can’t believe that we might not see Steven again….
Handling such intense themes so delicately and beautifully through superhero shows.. this phase of MCU is truly so so remarkable..
I think there's a symbolism when her mother first didn't attend his birthday..He blows out all the candles except one..Which represents his need for Steven (Maybe even Jake) as his mother is against him through his traumatic experience..Even his father has to blow the last candle two times(Maybe a hint to "Jake" and Steven)
The part when marc was standing across the street the day his mother died, and when he went on his knees on the middle of the street and started crying. That scene was so emotional. oscar is such an excellent actor.
I just realized that at the beginning in the doctor Harrow office, we don't see Mark or Steven but Jake... the way he speaks, his mouth, eye movement, his voice. Everything is different from those two.
2:35 Black Panther. Bast is actually called Bathset in Egyptian.
I think either we already saw the 3rd personality, or they did a reference to it, because when ‘Marc’ wakes up in the office the first time with the bloody nose, he had a Brooklyn accent that we hadn’t heard before, as well as his personality was different then marc or steven.
This episode was just gold, even narratively speaking - it allowed us to understand Marc's character better and it filled a lot of gaps in Steven's life. It's like Steven is a part of his psyche that Marc has been trying to protect since childhood. It's also worth noting how Marc always gets burdened with guilt - over his brother and Layla's father.
And I forgot to mention one more thing. Eric Voss is a real magician. He predicted nearly 70% of this episode in the past week. The Underworld and it's comparison to the Ancestral Plane, and the journey through the Field of Reeds and what not, it was amazing. Otherwise he has a source in Marvel Studio or he's a real Nerd.
I loved this episode Oscar killed it with his performance!
Having experienced the similar childhood... This episode brought a lot of my own memories to surface... It was a great piece of work.
Sorry to hear that.. hope you are doing good now 😊
This episode was like the second last ep of Wandavision where the audience gets to know all of the backstory and what actually is happening
This is one of those episodes/series you have to watch again to connect the dots from the reveals at the end to the beginning of the show.
Marvel exploring D.I.D. where it usually starts w/ childhood trauma.
I think you're right, Achara. I think when he was able to "let go" of Steven, his heart became balanced out.
This is the best episode of television I’ve seen in a while! Oscar deserves an Emmy for this 🤯
I think 1:34 was definitely Jake... Accent change, and he was so aggressive
Damn....the parallels of Wanda dealing with her grief by changing everyone around her and of Marc by changing himself is just amazing
Lmao being a Rick Riordan fan is really paying off for his series 😂 we knew that the underworld was called Duat, the heart gets weighted with the feather of truth, the hippo girl is called Taweret and very nice. It made me feel so smart 😂
Same lol
Only read one of his books on Egyptian mythology - Percy Jackson was more my jam - but I love how he makes ancient mythology fun and accessible.
I'm afraid Steven's sacrifice could be what helps Marc become whole again. But also, there's still Jake to consider, whom did appear in the episode quite subtly, if anyone pays attention.
On that Spanish song that plays towards the end, the lyrics "beyond the sun" are repeated.
I think Steven was meant to die for balance to be restored two is a party, three is a crowd
I don't think he meant to sacrifice himself though, he looked terrified when he got up from falling and wanted to get back to the boat. He was willing to save Marc but I don't think he wanted to die doing so which is why I think (and hope) he'll be back in the last ep.
@@eyupitsbecky Steven should not return. Marc is meant to let go of him as part of the healing process. That's why the scales balanced after the fact.
@@neomoscoso10 But when he got to the field of reeds, the moon in the end credits was back to the first cycle again, to me saying that Marc isn’t ‘whole’ without Steven - I think the only reason it wasn’t balanced was because the third alters heart wasn’t being judged so it was uneven - so when Steven went overboard it was like ‘well we’re back down to two now so that’ll do’ and let him through
I want Steven back please 😭😭😭 I cried so much after watching Steven turning into sand. After watching the friendship between Marc and Steven, I could not digest the last scene. Please don't disappoint me in the last episode 😢
Wow Jaby wiping his tears is like, yeah men cry too. 😅
Hats off to Oscar Isaac for his amazing portrayal of pure Sorrow.
So choked up... memories are hurtful, man! 'Nuff said... love you guys!
It feel directly in chest when Marc standing on street in front of house, and walk away from whatever situation was there. Then suddenly he feel emotional about lost his mother and tell himself "I cannot let you(his mother) have this". It means he didn't want to show that his feel of sadness after her death. Even after years of abusing from his mother, he still mourn for her death. What a heavy emotional toll he has to take.
01:07
I laughed so hard when he contradicted Achara 😂😂
I have a crazy theory for Black Panther, Black Panthers serve the Egyptian Godess Bast right? So maybe in Love an thunder Gorr attacks Bast and so Chadwick Boseman's Black panther (an avatar for Bast) is on a dangerous mission left without Bast's protection and so the enemy prevails in killing him
😳
That's a crazy theory!! Let's see
I felt it too Jaby. The scene where the Marc was in the street and the way he was broken made me cry honestly. It hit me so hard. I didn't expect it for a Marvel show as well
9:32 Best part of this reaction was Jaby thinking he was about to push his mother down the stairs 😂🤣
So hilarious that his mind went there. Moon Knight is epic. Hope they stick the landing🤞
Nah cuz this episode (and especially Oscar's acting) had me in SHAMBLES. I was crying so much... He better get an Emmy for this!
But besides, I really enjoy how this episode was structured. As a fan of Egyptian mythology I wasn't confused about anything on that part which honestly really helped out. I'm honestly so happy we're getting this in a marvel show!
I also loved the deep dive into Mark's DID. It's quite different for everyone and Steven has been revealed to be the spiritual protector, he fronts when Mark is in extreme emotional stress. No wonder he doesn't remember any trauma at all. In this show they take the route of Mark being rather united with his alters. They ARE separate people but don't have a full life (like Steven only living a lie). When he lost Steven his scales balanced because he finally truly accepted him and the trauma he suppressed.
The "uncovering memories through the door" trope was done by both WandaVision and Moon Knight. The difference being Wanda's memories were pretty straightforward and hence had fairly straight path to the day the bomb dropped, while Marc's memories are just borderline insanity and basically a labyrinth of different traumatic experiences.
Same technique but adapted to different characters masterfully.
I liked when marc crying after his mother died and after crying he becomes steven and called her mom to prevent from him from the trauma
Everything about this episode was great, but I'm completely amazed they actually had a female abuser they didn't make excuses for.
THAT is noteworthy.
I appreciated that about the episode as well. Society tends to associate abuse with men, but women can be abusers as well.
Oscar deserves.... An Oscar for this!!!
14:40
Best way to see this is that, Marc used Steven as his shield. One will "remember" his mom's beatings, the other will make him "forget". It's how the id of the mind works when forced to play its hand in response to such an extreme moment.
Basically, Steven is the id, marc would be either the ego or superego, if we go by Sgmund Freud's theories about how the mind works. :D
Kept refreshing to find you guy's reactions!
Man... Such an amazing episode! Oscar Issac deserves all the praise and appreciation
The very beginning that was the third personality Jake. You could tell by his voice and personality when he was talking with Harrow.
Ohhhh Jaby Jaby Jaby... such a hard man to please, but when you see that smile! yeah you know this show is awesome.
The ending made me cry. Steven didn't deserve to go out like this. :(
Man I cried for Steven . Such a nice guy
Steven created his own hero, likely named Jake. Jake is the one who saved Steven in the Alps and Cairo. Jake is the one who set up Steven's date and replaced Gus. Steven was created to protect Marc, to keep a safe place for him. Steven had to be protected at all costs, as we saw Marc try in this episode. When Marc isn't there to protect Steven, Steven conjured up his own persona, and I think we saw him on the boat protecting Marc.
Next week is going to be wild. Can't wait!
This is the MCU's best TV series, right here! Emmys for everyone!
Edit:
22:43 Khonshu is a jerk, no doubt. But he's not a cold blooded killer. I think the bones we saw in a flashback were there just to foreshadow. Khonshu wanted an avatar and used Marc's final moments to his advantage, that's what I got out of that scene. Khonshu got tired of sitting in his temple doing nothing. With Arthur gone and him banished, he was itching to get back into the game, and he was going to do whatever it took to do that. Khonshu's a chief manipulator, sure, but he did what he did to stop Ammit, and he sees humans as servants, at least up until Marc/Steven. Khonshu's final moments make me think he realized that he misjudged humans and hoped that Marc would give him another chance, which is why I think he asked Steven to tell Marc to find his tomb.
This show made me cry at 13:20 for real that's how good this series is ... He was the life of the show ... I want him back 😭
Another great Reaction, you guys. Thanks.
Regarding Steven's actual fate, I want to point out of the entertaining and fascinating allegorical phantasmagoric principles established in this episode, that the Anubis scales BALANCED after overboard Steven began to silicify THOUGH his heart remained on the scale Marc's. Possibly signifying that disparate removed Steven fulfilled his original purpose for Marc incepting him and still exists but advanced to his new role of being the accepted and welcome part of Marc of his "inner brother."
Look at Marc’s face when he was being choked. You can see Jake come out when he grabbed the glass paperweight. Marc’s not getting out until he accepts his violent side too.
Achara definitely understood the ending. I was watching some other reactions and people were just confused and mad that Steven is gone, but they forget it's kinda the reason now that the scales balanced which makes the ending I think even more sad realizing this
My birthday is today and this episode hit different but in a good way I loved the drama in this episode it was so good.
I guess since it's Marc's own meaningful memories, there's no one else on the street as none of his surroundings mattered to him
Marc’s relationship with his mom reminds me of Peacemaker’s relationship with his dad.
I remember oscar said ep 5 is his favorite. Now I can see why he was phenomenal.
Give Oscar an Emmy for fox sake
The 3rd him "Jake" was the one who suffered the punishment. that Mark thought and Steven suffered. but Steven could not cope with the abuse leading to the birth of "Jake". that might make "Jake" a psychopath.
That make sense.. because if Steven is the one abused, then he would have remember that somehow right.. but he didn't remember anything about the abusing.. so after Wendy entrance Jake must have to be in control of the body, so that he's grown up to be more ruthless
this episode was so emotional!!😢😢
and what is up with every marvel parent like ego the living planet , thanos , odin , howard stark(wasn't that bad but not the ideal dad) and now mark's mom
Just watched the episode. Was waiting for you to upload the episode.
Oscar should get an Oscar haha
mind melting episode
Oscar Isaac’s performance insanely good 🔥🔥
OMFG, this episode was f'in brilliant.
I am beyond speechless.
This show deserves ALL the Emmys, especially Oscar Isaac! This has to be his magnum opus as an actor.
Also, to FINALLY hear the name "Moon Knight" in this show smiled my soul.
Don't tell me Steven Grant is gone, or I will lose my mind.
This episode broke me dearly.
I better see Oscar Isaac get his Emmy this year, or else I will freak out.
I can't imagine what the finale next week will be, and I am hyped to see it.
I do not believe that actually Arthur Harrow as the Psychiatrist. I believe that’s Marc trying to cope with him being forced to relive his traumas and so created an inner world. “Inner worlds” is an aspect of DID where individuals will create worlds in their mind that has many features that mirror real life memories. Dr Harrow bringing up the concept of inner worlds also makes me feel like this is the case.
This episode is great! I love both Marvel and DC, and it's satisfying to see Marvel is doing more of a character study with their characters!
*this episode is almost just like the penultimate episode of WandaVision, seeing how things unfolded by going through marcs memories, watching all the trauma he's endured that led him to create Steven, just like wanda with Westview*
Cool watching it with you.
Of course I need to point out where I don’t agree… The part of Marc breaking down at his mums funeral and in then suddenly switching was brilliant - because that was the whole point of his DID. Steven were created as a coping mechanism in exactly those kind of situations, so it really pointedly showed how it worked. And that switch was what broke me - the blame, the shouting, the agony of Marc shown was heart breaking, but the switch just showed HOW terrible it was and how much Marc couldn’t deal with it.
"Didn't it suck for you, getting rejected from the Field of Reeds?"
Oscar Isaac deserves an Oscar, incredible acting.
23:40 - Random side story but about "young versions casting". The CW show Supergirl cast teenage versions of Melissa Benoist and Chyler Leigh.
When I saw them for the first time, I was utterly floored. Very similar faces and pinpoint accurate mannerism.
At first, I almost wondered for a (long) moment if the young Kara Danvers was actually Melissa with make-up and specific CGI.