Will never forget how defenders rather clear the ball to the corner because they were absolutely terrified of Rory Delaps long throw ins. That was some aura back then.
They genuinely were so recognizable & iconic in the Pl. Just looking at their badge & jersey feels me up with nostalgia. Really sad to see them getting washed away like this.
Stoke fan here… we’ve got a mute board who are so disconnected with the fans. It’s divided between fans, but they make disastrous decisions from player spendings to having their mates in board positions. We make no turnaround on players, no profit from talent, everyone who’s a success elsewhere becomes a flop at Stoke and vice versa. On top of this, they’ve already chosen Norwich’s head coach (not their manager) with no managerial experience at all as the manager favourite within an hour of sacking Schumacher. The club is in the bin. They’ve shat on their fans. I genuinely am starting to dislike our club.
As someone who grew up in Stoke during the Premier League era it needs to be said that so many fans were never satisfied with finishing in the top half/comfortable mid table of the Premier League after the initial few Pulis years. He was forced out for his style of play despite his overachievements year after year. Then they were never satisfied with Hughes for not taking them to the next level. Greed is a toxic thing in football and this big section of the fanbase are getting exactly what they deserve
Good points......and it reminds me of Charlton Athletic.....who 16-17 years ago finished 8th in the PL ( !!!!!!!!!) and their Manager was dismissed. Relegated the next season and have mainly been in Division 3 ever since. Talk about delusional Owners !!
I totally recognise this. I live near Stoke and have many friends and colleagues who support them. A lot of them never really appreciated what Pulis had done for them.
Very similar at Southampton, we sacked Puel finishing 8th in the Premier League and a League Cup final…I can only dream that now being 19th in the Premier League now only scoring 1 goal in 4 games getting stuffed every match…
Admittedly, the "can he do it on a cold night in Stoke" memes will forever be infamous...but it'd be nice to see them back at the top level someday. Maybe that Emre Tezgel kid might work out for them...
Sad to see how far Stoke have fallen off, seeing all those empty seats in the Bet365 is sobering I remember back when they were a solid mid table prem side who were a force to be reckoned with. Swansea City give off similar vibes too, hope both clubs can rise again in the near future.
I like to think it’s inevitable that one day they will get it right, but money is getting so crazy these days that’s it is so hard to compete with the relegated clubs now
Can't imagine being the opposing team against stoke in those old times. You concede a throw in, Delap is taking it with Peter Crouch and the rest of stoke waiting in the box with their combined avg height of 6ft. Good luck.
Stoke fan here! We’ve been stuck in this cycle for ages. It’s basically because different managers want different squads and they never seem to gel. Because of a culmination of young inexperienced players, old players past their peak & bang average players that we overpay for its meant we are where we are. Now it’s looking as if we are focusing on utilising youth and we are supposedly acquiring a coach to help the above. To put us into a nutshell, we’ve lost our identity and we are a sinking ship without a captain… Ps. Loving the essay videos!
I'm a stoke fan, and we have no sense of direction atm... and we haven't since the 2016/17 season when we were still in the prem. Its hard to put our finger on what's going on. But we need a sense of direction
It's mad to think as you go by decades, the PL looks so much different every time. Kids these days don't remember when likes of Portsmouth, Charlton, Bolton, Coventry, were PL main stays. Years later, you got likes of Reading, QPR, Sunderland, Swansea, Stoke. Who knows, by time we reach 2030, some teams in league two right now, would be PL mainstays, While one of the current PL clubs could fall down like how teams like Stoke basically have.
Right now, you wouldn't rule out Wrexham making it. Afterall, are they any smaller as a club than Luton ? I guess the difference is that Luton were an established top division club from 1982 to 1993, where as Wrexham never have been in the top league - yet.
Bournemouth and Brentford have probably assumed that role of relatively small clubs rising to become part of the PL furniture for a generation of fans. When I was at school it was Coventry and Wimbledon that seemed like they'd been there forever and always would be, even though in Wimbledon's case they'd only joined the League in the 1970s.
And that my pal was the beginning of the end for us and the start of something special for you guys funny football is at times joselu left us to win champions league chupo moting the same 😅😂😂😂
@@nathanhaldane3834 yeah tbf with those 2, no one knows how they managed that 😂😂 Can’t speak as a neutral but, interested about your opinion. What are the owners like? My 1st away game was the 3rd round FA Cup game when we were in the championship (Jan 2014) when Keydwyne Jones scored think the score was 2-1 to Stoke so, hopefully you can get a few players in for a playoff run next season.
@@jakesheward663 I'm not a neutral my self mate I'm I life long stoke fan and this period now reminds me of the period under the Icelandics just with clear intentions or direction but not while Peter Coates the boss was in charge it was a family club we were all united together we have lost our identity our structure and now the stability that saw us well for so long is gone tooo shame really cause we had something phenomenal there we really did I hope so too mate but I just don't see a way forward from this point
As a fan of 60 years, I think my team have been drifting since relegation from the top flight. The team was more fun to watch in League One under Gudjon Thordasson. I was shocked when the owner was interviewed at the start of the season and in response to the question what is your hope for the season, he said “a good season.” It lacked any vision or ambition. I can’t see things changing without these attributes and the loyalty of a very passionate fan base, is being tested to destruction.
My grandad has supported stoke for 70 years and he’s stopped going in the last 10 years because of how depressing and shit they can be and not to mention how cold the stadium is
not a true fan then u stick by ur team through thick and thin i’d go and watch them whether we were top of the prem or bottom of league 2 i ain’t bothered and granted ur grandad has been alive longer than me and seen more than me with stoke especially the old league one days but it doesn’t mean u stop going
'How cold the stadium is'? When the weather is cold, it's cold in the ground. When the weather is warm, it's warm in the ground. Just like every other football ground in the world.
@@OllyBockus yea but when your older and more susceptible to illness it makes it harder and harder to go he still watches stoke every week just not getting illness from doing it
@@faze_guenthersteiner7263 he has stuck with them though? He still watches them but doesn’t want to sacrifice his health, old people die of silly things like colds and he doesn’t want to be one of them
It sound weird, but Stoke to me almost feel like they need to get relegated to League One for a reset, ideally with Port Vale there for the derby matches. Something to make them go "something's not right here" and fix it, bring back some fans with a good season and make an attack at the league afterwards. Kind of a footballing tactically retreat I guess.
i remember when i first started going to the games as a kid we just missed out on the playoffs but we were a strong championship side, then we got promoted the next season, so for basically my entire childhood we were in the top flight. even qualified for the europa league after that fa cup final we had an identity under pulis - nobody else liked the football we played but we at least had a recognisable style and it was effective
The fans if they can call themselves that need to start going to games. I can’t believe how empty it was when I last visited with Derby. And that was a few seasons ago. It’s not improved. Full stadium can change games. Wish stoke the best for the future.
I remember when Stoke had all those years in Div 2 (League 1) so I dont really see it as a massive downfall for them. Gaining promotion to the PL was them overachieving.
Over a prolonged period Stoke have spent most of their history in the top two divisions and they get decent gates. Maybe modern football has left them behind.
Ibr I miss the cold windy night on Stoke. The period between 2015 - 2017 was the best period of their history. I hated playing whenever we played them as they had good attackers such as Shaqiri, Arnautović and Bojan were so hard to defend against
As a Stoke fan it all went to shit when we appointed mark Hughes he only made 3 good signings football has been negative since constantly sacking managers constantly rebuilding the side to do the exact same thing the year after
It's mad how quick owners are to sack in the championship. Even if youre at the bottom end of the table, you're never more than 3 or 4 wins in a row away from playoffs. You absolutely can push for promotion from 13th while 5 games in.
I’m a Stoke fan. I was absolutely gutted that Schumacher got sacked/left (really not sure what actually happened there). He had the highest win % of any our 7 managers since we got relegated. The fans liked him. We started off this season well then we sack him after the first 5 or so games into the season. Crazy. I have lost all hopes of any progress season as we have YET ANOTHER season of letting the manager settle in and build the team he wants. Our current teams fullback situation is horrendous, we have no ball winning midfielder but our attack looks okay. This means we’re playing relatively well against worse teams (we have had some high scoring games this season) but we get absolutely dominated by any stronger team. Really don’t know what to expect of the new manager, however he has my full support, as usual. We will see a return to the top flight. We are a big club (one of the founding clubs in the English league) with owners who have the funds to bring in big talent. Let’s see what happens but I will always remain hopeful for the long term.
Stoke City. The club that you associate with Championship mediocrity the most. Besides Bristol City and Preston North End. Those two have an unshakeable ground which cannot and will not allow them to be defeated in this matter. An admirable effort nonetheless.
I did a groundhoppinh trip to Stoke last year. Lovely group of fans but it was like a different club to what we grew up with. They got torn to shreds by Blackburn and the fans literally did about 3 chants all game. Was very sad to see.
As an Ipswich Town fan all I can say is hang in there for another 8-9 seasons, get relegated to league one and then rebuild. Nearly half the current Premier League has been in league one in the past 10 years
As a Forest fan, who now might - MIGHT - be establising themselves as a PL club - that 23 years outside the top flight seemed like 123 years. It can be a LONG road back....and the bigger the club the harder they fall.
It’s been a disaster since the Paul Lambert appointment. There’s a lack of experience from board level down and the only way to fix it is with a long term joined up strategy which involves all partitions of the club working together - that includes the fans!
As a proud Blackburn Rovers fan, I feel the pain of watching a club dissolve into a puddle of mediocrity. Teasing you with a 7th place finish in Championship to needing an improbable victory away to stave off relegation the following year. The yo-yo of emotions gets exhausting.
As a stoke fan it’s a shame what’s happened our club is upsetting we went from a strong premier league team to losing to teams at the bottom of the table struggling its shambolic at this club now
I do feel like Stoke occupy that strange period between mid-table premier league sides, because before you had Blackburn, Bolton, Reading, Wigan, etc. But since 2013 onwards we've seen Palace, Brighton, Brentford, Forest and Bournemouth either come up or return, Stoke weren't really part of either cohort despite being in the prem for nearly 7 years.
@@Vizeh Agreed. Stoke could attract 30,000 crowds in a way that those three never could. Problem with clubs like Stoke is that the longer they are out of the top league, the more that 10 year olds in Staffordshire will close to support Man City or Liverpool rather than their local club THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY GO AND WATCH PLAY !!
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 I think that's true. WIgan in particular got very lucky with Dave Whelan - that luck will not strike twice. Reading is also NOT a football town. As for Watfrod, 10 managers in 10 years tells you everything.
@@rjw4762 reading were bankrolled by the owner of auto trader magazine whilst Elton John funded watfords rise from 4th to 1st division in the early 80s
Schumacher was sacked beacuse he didnt get on with JW who we appointed with 0 experience last year.. some interesting decisions but the recent signings/appointments are at least players that have potential and aren't on the downhill of their career.. if we're still down there in 2 years we will be for the next 20
Daniel Storey wrote a piece about QPR and he said, I am paraphrasing, that a monied, benign ownership is not leadership. Many of these clubs don't have leadership because they employ people in the boardroom of no real worth and then create a structure that doesn't allow a manager to bring that leadership. If the Coates family are serious, one of them needs to dedicate their time full-time to the club.
We used to be a proper club who stuck with managers long-term with a solid premier league reputation. Now we’re known for tapping up lower championship club’s managers and failing….what has happened to my club 😔
Great video! Do a West Brom Video 🙏🏼 we’ve been through a lot in recent history and with the good start to the season I hope we can kick on. Thanks to Carlos corberan! Great manager!!
I went to my first Stoke game in 1961...supporting them has ALWAYS been a roller coaster with highs, lows, doldrums and party times...the down times have to be endured because they then make the good times all the sweeter. If you're a genuine fan, you know you're going to have to put up with some dross and keep faith with the club, because really great things WILL roll round again. Not to mention that even in rubbish periods, there's always the odd random entertaining performance/result. However, the club really should get behind one manager, believe in him and give him a longer time to build a consistent side. Maybe Pelach (welcome to the Potteries) might be that man...
Shawcross, Delap, Crouch, Nzongi, Huth they were a big strong nasty team that had enough technical ability with Shaqiri and that Arnatoovic pretty sure i spelled it wrong.
Stoke fan here, no idea why we sacked Schumacher. He didn’t do a bad job. The fans loved him and yet, according to the board, he wasn’t the right fit for the club. And we’re replacing him with unknown assistant at Norwich, well done Stoke. Do I think we’ll be back in the prem in five years. No, I don’t think we will scrape playoffs. We’ll be languishing in mid table or relegation battles.
We seem to form a protective bubble around the Coates family as they are local and have pumped resources into us in the past, however they shouldn’t be immune to criticism, ever since John Coates took the majority of the club, it’s been bad decisions
I think the closest thing we have to Stoke City today is Brentford. They are that mid table Premier League club. Who are just trying to stay in the top division. But Stoke are the Championship equivalent. I grew up watching Stoke thrive in the Premier League. To see them struggling is really quite sad for almost 10 years now.
Stoke fan here, it's been an incredibly tough few years. We get so hopeful every year. I feel like we have such a good squad like Jun-ho, Burger, etc. Just feels like bad decisions at the top. We accept mediocrity.
Noticing that Swansea City got relegated that same season. A video on them would be brill (my team, no bias here… obvs)! You can track Swansea’s slow rot at the top level when the local businessmen that ran the club sold the club to distant, millionaire Americans. But despite being relegated to the Championship, there have been a series of near-misses in promotion pushes and academy success stories at the level too.
Being a Southampton fan, I always remember that game at the Liberty Stadium between us two clubs when Gabbadini got the winning goal, I can only assume you’ve got a bit of a grudge against us now after taking Russell Martin, Flynn Downes, Nathan Wood, and Ryan Manning
When Gary Rowett was asked in Stokes first season whether they'd be in a title challenge, he arrogantly laughed and said "have you seen our squad" lmao
I don’t really support any team, but I love football mainly Domestic Football, Every Season I look at Stoke and think they shoukf be in the top 10, pushing for the play offs
SS sacking came as a shock. Can only think that behind the scenes he was perceived as an unsafe pair of hands and when the right alternative came along they got ring. Just got to believe that Super Johnny Walters has made the right move. If he has we will be back in the Prem within 2-3 years as everything else is good to go. Going the match tonight and the sun is shining. Expect us to win 4 nil 😊 😆 😃
@@jpwaitforit5801 no clue what that's supposed to mean but I assume you must love Ultra-Defensive football with constant long balls and all that because that's super exiting right buddy
@@Nicho213007 It's irony. because now everyone is nostalgic for older football (the Barclays phenomenon) and they say that football nowadays is boring. in fact pep's football is my favorite type of football
@@jpwaitforit5801 Fair enough. I can't say I am at all nostalgic for that era of football one bit you know Allardyce and Pulis types while I certainly could find some entertainment from Allardyce from his press conferences and antics on the sidelines I would never pay a dime to watch his brand of football and yes absolutely Peps brand of football is beautiful to watch but ultimately for me as long you have an attack-minded approach to football how or why a manager choose to apply that is irrelevant to me chances are I will enjoy it
The only thing about schumachers sacking that surprised me was that it didn't happen at the end of last season. Stoke never give a manager time to get things sorted, sometimes you have to just bite the bullet and accept a rough season or two so the manager can get things exactly as he wants it. Players get used to how a manager wants them to play then the board sack him and things have to start all over again with a new gaffer who wants things done a different way.... But stoke will be stoke. They will poach another manager with the offer of big money, spend some dosh on some players and then 6 months down the line sack him claiming the club isn't going in the direction they want and then start the cycle all over again....
Reminds me of how Birmingham City made a traitorous decision by sacking John Eustace while the club was in playoff spot and replaced with Wayne Rooney, who led this team to the relegation zone and never recovered back.
Honestly I don’t think anyone outside of Stoke is devastated about their downfall 😂 For years they’ve tried to buy their way out of the league. Spending on players & pinching managers off of other clubs. Every summer, their fans get ahead of themselves only to finish bottom half 😂
You’re obviously not very well versed in championship affairs. If you look at our spending since the second season we came down, we’ve actually not spent half as much as the clubs around us. The only reasons we’ve been able to spend anything since Michael O’Neill took charge 4 years ago was because he balanced our books. Dont make silly comments when you don’t know what you’re talking about. Silly boy.
@@davidevans9033 more so wages, compensation in poaching & then sacking managers constantly. Bare in mind those parachute payments ran out a long time ago (wanna leave out the first 2 seasons because buying the league failed) Either way more money has been wasted
Just to point out, Schumacher didn't buy any players. He was just a coach at Stoke City and not the manager, he had no decision-making power with regards to transfers.
Previously a mainstay you could rely on to retain their place in the league following absolute shithousery, represented prime Barclays in an exemplary manner. Not built on previous success, investment is evident but recruitment policies are flawed. Believe infrastructure was deeply flawed preceding relegation, with not enough passion/determination involved. Tactics have been 1 dimensional for years.
Sometimes it's nice to have a local billionaire family owning your club, other times they need to realise they either took them as far as they can, or they need to appoint better people in the boardroom who have a bold vision. They might have hit the right formula with Pelach, it might be another cycle of Stoke nonsense again. Who knows?
Look if my team (check badge) can get back to the Prem and look like a semi decent team then i have no doubt that Stoke can get back to the Prem some day. you just gotta hold onto that hope that's what kept me going in those 23 long years away from the Prem.
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Will never forget how defenders rather clear the ball to the corner because they were absolutely terrified of Rory Delaps long throw ins. That was some aura back then.
I forgot about that god that’s actually valid😂
They genuinely were so recognizable & iconic in the Pl. Just looking at their badge & jersey feels me up with nostalgia. Really sad to see them getting washed away like this.
The Rory Delap throws will never be forgotten❤
Stoke away was such a tough place to visit. I still remember them thrashing Liverpool 6-1 in Gerrard's last ever game.
@@Vizehpeak Barclays
Stoke fan here… we’ve got a mute board who are so disconnected with the fans. It’s divided between fans, but they make disastrous decisions from player spendings to having their mates in board positions. We make no turnaround on players, no profit from talent, everyone who’s a success elsewhere becomes a flop at Stoke and vice versa. On top of this, they’ve already chosen Norwich’s head coach (not their manager) with no managerial experience at all as the manager favourite within an hour of sacking Schumacher. The club is in the bin. They’ve shat on their fans. I genuinely am starting to dislike our club.
Shaqiri as well
None of their players can do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke.
Which isn;t great when you're playing for Stoke...
Honestly most of them wouldnt wash that old prem teams boots
As someone who grew up in Stoke during the Premier League era it needs to be said that so many fans were never satisfied with finishing in the top half/comfortable mid table of the Premier League after the initial few Pulis years.
He was forced out for his style of play despite his overachievements year after year.
Then they were never satisfied with Hughes for not taking them to the next level.
Greed is a toxic thing in football and this big section of the fanbase are getting exactly what they deserve
Good points......and it reminds me of Charlton Athletic.....who 16-17 years ago finished 8th in the PL ( !!!!!!!!!) and their Manager was dismissed. Relegated the next season and have mainly been in Division 3 ever since. Talk about delusional Owners !!
I totally recognise this. I live near Stoke and have many friends and colleagues who support them. A lot of them never really appreciated what Pulis had done for them.
Very similar at Southampton, we sacked Puel finishing 8th in the Premier League and a League Cup final…I can only dream that now being 19th in the Premier League now only scoring 1 goal in 4 games getting stuffed every match…
As a Stoke fan I’m devastated you’ve piled more misery on us so soon. We’re still morning our Scouse Prince
I do apologize
I’m still in shock too mate, I really hope Walters is doing this for the club and not his own ego
@@stephenbentley7314definitely the second one
Was all downhill when they changed the name of the stadium. Don't gamble, kids.
Admittedly, the "can he do it on a cold night in Stoke" memes will forever be infamous...but it'd be nice to see them back at the top level someday. Maybe that Emre Tezgel kid might work out for them...
Messi has never done it on a rainy night has he😂
@@Vizeh His 5'2" looking ass would be too overwhelmed by the elements (sorry, my inner Brazilian had to come out to slander the man) 😂😂
@@Vizeh his cousin bojan Krkic did however 😅
Sad to see how far Stoke have fallen off, seeing all those empty seats in the Bet365 is sobering I remember back when they were a solid mid table prem side who were a force to be reckoned with. Swansea City give off similar vibes too, hope both clubs can rise again in the near future.
I like to think it’s inevitable that one day they will get it right, but money is getting so crazy these days that’s it is so hard to compete with the relegated clubs now
Can't imagine being the opposing team against stoke in those old times. You concede a throw in, Delap is taking it with Peter Crouch and the rest of stoke waiting in the box with their combined avg height of 6ft. Good luck.
Stoke fan here! We’ve been stuck in this cycle for ages. It’s basically because different managers want different squads and they never seem to gel. Because of a culmination of young inexperienced players, old players past their peak & bang average players that we overpay for its meant we are where we are. Now it’s looking as if we are focusing on utilising youth and we are supposedly acquiring a coach to help the above. To put us into a nutshell, we’ve lost our identity and we are a sinking ship without a captain…
Ps. Loving the essay videos!
I'm a Plymouth fan and it's kind of funny but sad to see both of our former managers leave/get sacked
You must be buzzing
We literally deserve to get relegated after sacking Schumacher. What a stupid, stupid decision. We never, ever learn
@@edwardhilton4344 We didn't sack him. He left
@@cornish-ballmapper5990you believe that? He was FORCED out. If he didn’t leave, he would’ve been sacked. Him and the owners fell out
You will have him back soon!
After a long day of moving to a new apartment, Liam came in clutch🔥
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I'm a stoke fan, and we have no sense of direction atm... and we haven't since the 2016/17 season when we were still in the prem. Its hard to put our finger on what's going on. But we need a sense of direction
As a Stoke fan, we aren't boring.
We're soulcrushing. I fell out of love with the game.
It's mad to think as you go by decades, the PL looks so much different every time. Kids these days don't remember when likes of Portsmouth, Charlton, Bolton, Coventry, were PL main stays. Years later, you got likes of Reading, QPR, Sunderland, Swansea, Stoke.
Who knows, by time we reach 2030, some teams in league two right now, would be PL mainstays, While one of the current PL clubs could fall down like how teams like Stoke basically have.
Right now, you wouldn't rule out Wrexham making it. Afterall, are they any smaller as a club than Luton ? I guess the difference is that Luton were an established top division club from 1982 to 1993, where as Wrexham never have been in the top league - yet.
Bournemouth and Brentford have probably assumed that role of relatively small clubs rising to become part of the PL furniture for a generation of fans. When I was at school it was Coventry and Wimbledon that seemed like they'd been there forever and always would be, even though in Wimbledon's case they'd only joined the League in the 1970s.
Rory Delap's throw-ins have more history than PSG and Man City combined
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Nah fr tho😂😂
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@nightcrawler2803 Keep crying bro
Can I just say as a Leicester fan, thank you Stoke for giving Robert Huth to us on loan to keep us up & as a free transfer to win us the league.
And that my pal was the beginning of the end for us and the start of something special for you guys funny football is at times joselu left us to win champions league chupo moting the same 😅😂😂😂
@@nathanhaldane3834 yeah tbf with those 2, no one knows how they managed that 😂😂 Can’t speak as a neutral but, interested about your opinion. What are the owners like?
My 1st away game was the 3rd round FA Cup game when we were in the championship (Jan 2014) when Keydwyne Jones scored think the score was 2-1 to Stoke so, hopefully you can get a few players in for a playoff run next season.
@@jakesheward663 I'm not a neutral my self mate I'm I life long stoke fan and this period now reminds me of the period under the Icelandics just with clear intentions or direction but not while Peter Coates the boss was in charge it was a family club we were all united together we have lost our identity our structure and now the stability that saw us well for so long is gone tooo shame really cause we had something phenomenal there we really did I hope so too mate but I just don't see a way forward from this point
As a fan of 60 years, I think my team have been drifting since relegation from the top flight. The team was more fun to watch in League One under Gudjon Thordasson. I was shocked when the owner was interviewed at the start of the season and in response to the question what is your hope for the season, he said “a good season.” It lacked any vision or ambition. I can’t see things changing without these attributes and the loyalty of a very passionate fan base, is being tested to destruction.
Can you do it in a rainy night in Stoke is undoubtedly an iconic line in English football.
My only memories of Stoke are Shawcross breaking Ramsey’s leg and then beating Liverpool 6-1 on Gerrard’s final game
My grandad has supported stoke for 70 years and he’s stopped going in the last 10 years because of how depressing and shit they can be and not to mention how cold the stadium is
that's just so sad
not a true fan then u stick by ur team through thick and thin i’d go and watch them whether we were top of the prem or bottom of league 2 i ain’t bothered and granted ur grandad has been alive longer than me and seen more than me with stoke especially the old league one days but it doesn’t mean u stop going
'How cold the stadium is'? When the weather is cold, it's cold in the ground. When the weather is warm, it's warm in the ground. Just like every other football ground in the world.
@@OllyBockus yea but when your older and more susceptible to illness it makes it harder and harder to go he still watches stoke every week just not getting illness from doing it
@@faze_guenthersteiner7263 he has stuck with them though? He still watches them but doesn’t want to sacrifice his health, old people die of silly things like colds and he doesn’t want to be one of them
Million is the best player in the Championship! Sign him to a
Great multi year deal.
It sound weird, but Stoke to me almost feel like they need to get relegated to League One for a reset, ideally with Port Vale there for the derby matches. Something to make them go "something's not right here" and fix it, bring back some fans with a good season and make an attack at the league afterwards.
Kind of a footballing tactically retreat I guess.
unsure why but i have such a core memory of tony pulis at stoke. i also remember us (newcastle) playing them multiple times. weird what sticks
As a Canadian Nufc fan whose paternal family is from Stoke the Pulis era of the EPL was so goated w the sauce
i remember when i first started going to the games as a kid we just missed out on the playoffs but we were a strong championship side, then we got promoted the next season, so for basically my entire childhood we were in the top flight. even qualified for the europa league after that fa cup final
we had an identity under pulis - nobody else liked the football we played but we at least had a recognisable style and it was effective
The fans if they can call themselves that need to start going to games. I can’t believe how empty it was when I last visited with Derby. And that was a few seasons ago. It’s not improved. Full stadium can change games. Wish stoke the best for the future.
I remember when Stoke had all those years in Div 2 (League 1) so I dont really see it as a massive downfall for them. Gaining promotion to the PL was them overachieving.
Over a prolonged period Stoke have spent most of their history in the top two divisions and they get decent gates. Maybe modern football has left them behind.
@@RW-nr6bh And they still are in the top two divisions. If they go down then yeah, that would be a downfall.
Long gone are the Stokealona days
Ibr I miss the cold windy night on Stoke. The period between 2015 - 2017 was the best period of their history. I hated playing whenever we played them as they had good attackers such as Shaqiri, Arnautović and Bojan were so hard to defend against
As a Stoke fan it all went to shit when we appointed mark Hughes he only made 3 good signings football has been negative since constantly sacking managers constantly rebuilding the side to do the exact same thing the year after
I remember watching HITC 7s video about the basket-case owners and how them knowing f-all about football is the main root of all their problems.
It's mad how quick owners are to sack in the championship. Even if youre at the bottom end of the table, you're never more than 3 or 4 wins in a row away from playoffs.
You absolutely can push for promotion from 13th while 5 games in.
I’m a Stoke fan. I was absolutely gutted that Schumacher got sacked/left (really not sure what actually happened there).
He had the highest win % of any our 7 managers since we got relegated. The fans liked him. We started off this season well then we sack him after the first 5 or so games into the season. Crazy.
I have lost all hopes of any progress season as we have YET ANOTHER season of letting the manager settle in and build the team he wants.
Our current teams fullback situation is horrendous, we have no ball winning midfielder but our attack looks okay. This means we’re playing relatively well against worse teams (we have had some high scoring games this season) but we get absolutely dominated by any stronger team.
Really don’t know what to expect of the new manager, however he has my full support, as usual.
We will see a return to the top flight. We are a big club (one of the founding clubs in the English league) with owners who have the funds to bring in big talent.
Let’s see what happens but I will always remain hopeful for the long term.
Stoke City. The club that you associate with Championship mediocrity the most. Besides Bristol City and Preston North End. Those two have an unshakeable ground which cannot and will not allow them to be defeated in this matter. An admirable effort nonetheless.
I did a groundhoppinh trip to Stoke last year. Lovely group of fans but it was like a different club to what we grew up with. They got torn to shreds by Blackburn and the fans literally did about 3 chants all game. Was very sad to see.
Live these little docs mate keep going always look forward to the next
I remember when Stoke beat Liverpool 5-1. They used to give my team Arsenal a tough time and for a while used to be our bogey team
it was 6-1 not 5
As an Ipswich Town fan all I can say is hang in there for another 8-9 seasons, get relegated to league one and then rebuild. Nearly half the current Premier League has been in league one in the past 10 years
As a Forest fan, who now might - MIGHT - be establising themselves as a PL club - that 23 years outside the top flight seemed like 123 years. It can be a LONG road back....and the bigger the club the harder they fall.
Stokelona, what a time to be alive
It’s been a disaster since the Paul Lambert appointment. There’s a lack of experience from board level down and the only way to fix it is with a long term joined up strategy which involves all partitions of the club working together - that includes the fans!
As a proud Blackburn Rovers fan, I feel the pain of watching a club dissolve into a puddle of mediocrity. Teasing you with a 7th place finish in Championship to needing an improbable victory away to stave off relegation the following year. The yo-yo of emotions gets exhausting.
I feel really bad for stoke, premier league need some unhospital stadiums to show those little stars how is done in England
As a stoke fan it’s a shame what’s happened our club is upsetting we went from a strong premier league team to losing to teams at the bottom of the table struggling its shambolic at this club now
Not a Stoke fan, but given the wealth of the Coates family, I'd long since thought that Stoke have punched below their weight for past 7-8 years.
That feeling as an Oxford fan when you finally get to see your team beat teams like stoke
You’ve surprised me a lot with how good you’ve been
We've never lost to Stoke at Home!
@@Vizeh I genuinely think we could go for top 10, kassam is a three sided fortress and des Buckingham is a genius
Stoke has never beaten us at home, in 10 attempts
Just enjoy your team playing well while you can this league is ruthless
as a stoke fan i hate what jas happened to the club and it hurts to be a fan nowadays
I do feel like Stoke occupy that strange period between mid-table premier league sides, because before you had Blackburn, Bolton, Reading, Wigan, etc. But since 2013 onwards we've seen Palace, Brighton, Brentford, Forest and Bournemouth either come up or return, Stoke weren't really part of either cohort despite being in the prem for nearly 7 years.
I’d say stoke is much more Prem than a Reading, Watford, Wigan etc
@@Vizeh Agreed. Stoke could attract 30,000 crowds in a way that those three never could. Problem with clubs like Stoke is that the longer they are out of the top league, the more that 10 year olds in Staffordshire will close to support Man City or Liverpool rather than their local club THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY GO AND WATCH PLAY !!
Stoke have a long history of top flight football. Reading Watford and Wigan were lower league sides that got lucky with good owners.
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 I think that's true. WIgan in particular got very lucky with Dave Whelan - that luck will not strike twice. Reading is also NOT a football town. As for Watfrod, 10 managers in 10 years tells you everything.
@@rjw4762 reading were bankrolled by the owner of auto trader magazine whilst Elton John funded watfords rise from 4th to 1st division in the early 80s
Schumacher was sacked beacuse he didnt get on with JW who we appointed with 0 experience last year.. some interesting decisions but the recent signings/appointments are at least players that have potential and aren't on the downhill of their career.. if we're still down there in 2 years we will be for the next 20
Don't think they'll get back to the Premier League but they are a solid Championship club.
Daniel Storey wrote a piece about QPR and he said, I am paraphrasing, that a monied, benign ownership is not leadership. Many of these clubs don't have leadership because they employ people in the boardroom of no real worth and then create a structure that doesn't allow a manager to bring that leadership. If the Coates family are serious, one of them needs to dedicate their time full-time to the club.
We used to be a proper club who stuck with managers long-term with a solid premier league reputation. Now we’re known for tapping up lower championship club’s managers and failing….what has happened to my club 😔
Great video! Do a West Brom Video 🙏🏼 we’ve been through a lot in recent history and with the good start to the season I hope we can kick on. Thanks to Carlos corberan! Great manager!!
Y’all sleeping on Swindon Towns downfall, they went from PL to now hovering Above drop zone to Non League
Bro pulls that like subscribe in the middle of the video and my dumb ass starts thinking the videos finished
It always gets me ngl 😂
I went to my first Stoke game in 1961...supporting them has ALWAYS been a roller coaster with highs, lows, doldrums and party times...the down times have to be endured because they then make the good times all the sweeter. If you're a genuine fan, you know you're going to have to put up with some dross and keep faith with the club, because really great things WILL roll round again. Not to mention that even in rubbish periods, there's always the odd random entertaining performance/result. However, the club really should get behind one manager, believe in him and give him a longer time to build a consistent side. Maybe Pelach (welcome to the Potteries) might be that man...
As a chelsea fan it is so sad to see where they are now
No it’s not it’s hilarious
Shawcross, Delap, Crouch, Nzongi, Huth they were a big strong nasty team that had enough technical ability with Shaqiri and that Arnatoovic pretty sure i spelled it wrong.
I feel sorry for stoke . I missed the Barclays era but looking at the like of Peter crouch etc , it’s sad to see them like this
Stoke being in the prem is nostalgic to me
The most legendary banter ALWAYS includes with “…but could he do it on a rainy night in Stoke?” 🤭🤭🤭🤭
Stoke fan here, no idea why we sacked Schumacher. He didn’t do a bad job. The fans loved him and yet, according to the board, he wasn’t the right fit for the club. And we’re replacing him with unknown assistant at Norwich, well done Stoke. Do I think we’ll be back in the prem in five years. No, I don’t think we will scrape playoffs. We’ll be languishing in mid table or relegation battles.
Really big fan of Million Manhoef, who went there this season from Vitesse. Hope they will manage to end up high in a couple of seasons..
He’s good but he never passes and greed is starting to make me feel a slight dislike to him, he needs to become part of the team
We’re fooked, John Coates is ruining this club.
Please what song is playing from the beginning? Can’t get it out of my head! Love it! Help please!!
We seem to form a protective bubble around the Coates family as they are local and have pumped resources into us in the past, however they shouldn’t be immune to criticism, ever since John Coates took the majority of the club, it’s been bad decisions
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Boring, depressing, defensive football. Stoke can stay the fuck away from the Prem, thank you very much.
Yep 👍🏻
I think the closest thing we have to Stoke City today is Brentford. They are that mid table Premier League club. Who are just trying to stay in the top division. But Stoke are the Championship equivalent. I grew up watching Stoke thrive in the Premier League. To see them struggling is really quite sad for almost 10 years now.
Stoke fan here, it's been an incredibly tough few years. We get so hopeful every year. I feel like we have such a good squad like Jun-ho, Burger, etc. Just feels like bad decisions at the top. We accept mediocrity.
Noticing that Swansea City got relegated that same season. A video on them would be brill (my team, no bias here… obvs)!
You can track Swansea’s slow rot at the top level when the local businessmen that ran the club sold the club to distant, millionaire Americans.
But despite being relegated to the Championship, there have been a series of near-misses in promotion pushes and academy success stories at the level too.
Being a Southampton fan, I always remember that game at the Liberty Stadium between us two clubs when Gabbadini got the winning goal, I can only assume you’ve got a bit of a grudge against us now after taking Russell Martin, Flynn Downes, Nathan Wood, and Ryan Manning
@lewiselliott3969 Looking do you think that was a defining match in the future of both clubs?
The way I see it, Stoke has spent this long away from the top that I just don't think they'll ever be ran competently enough to be back again.
When Gary Rowett was asked in Stokes first season whether they'd be in a title challenge, he arrogantly laughed and said "have you seen our squad" lmao
I don’t really support any team, but I love football mainly Domestic Football, Every Season I look at Stoke and think they shoukf be in the top 10, pushing for the play offs
Any other Oxford fans here watching this. It’s 2024 and Oxford r getting managers sacked 😂
SS sacking came as a shock. Can only think that behind the scenes he was perceived as an unsafe pair of hands and when the right alternative came along they got ring. Just got to believe that Super Johnny Walters has made the right move. If he has we will be back in the Prem within 2-3 years as everything else is good to go. Going the match tonight and the sun is shining. Expect us to win 4 nil 😊 😆 😃
Watching Stoke play "Football" was equivalent to poor bleach straight into your eye hole
But you know... Was REAL BARCLAYS MEN's futebol not that tiki tiki bs as some guy will tell you
@@jpwaitforit5801 no clue what that's supposed to mean but I assume you must love Ultra-Defensive football with constant long balls and all that because that's super exiting right buddy
@@Nicho213007 It's irony.
because now everyone is nostalgic for older football (the Barclays phenomenon) and they say that football nowadays is boring. in fact pep's football is my favorite type of football
@@jpwaitforit5801 Fair enough. I can't say I am at all nostalgic for that era of football one bit you know Allardyce and Pulis types while I certainly could find some entertainment from Allardyce from his press conferences and antics on the sidelines I would never pay a dime to watch his brand of football and yes absolutely Peps brand of football is beautiful to watch but ultimately for me as long you have an attack-minded approach to football how or why a manager choose to apply that is irrelevant to me chances are I will enjoy it
Nobody liked playing that Stoke side at the Brittana in the PL days despite there lack of overall quality
Stoke have got more chance playing league two football in the next five years than premier league
The only thing about schumachers sacking that surprised me was that it didn't happen at the end of last season.
Stoke never give a manager time to get things sorted, sometimes you have to just bite the bullet and accept a rough season or two so the manager can get things exactly as he wants it.
Players get used to how a manager wants them to play then the board sack him and things have to start all over again with a new gaffer who wants things done a different way....
But stoke will be stoke. They will poach another manager with the offer of big money, spend some dosh on some players and then 6 months down the line sack him claiming the club isn't going in the direction they want and then start the cycle all over again....
As a Stoke fan it hurts to watch this
The Schumacher sacking was a terrible decision
Reminds me of how Birmingham City made a traitorous decision by sacking John Eustace while the club was in playoff spot and replaced with Wayne Rooney, who led this team to the relegation zone and never recovered back.
They need to bring back Tony Pulis. I really miss his "tactics" 😂
it wasnt too long ago where stoke city was a well managed team, sucks to see teams like them slowly fall
All I remember is Arnautovic and Shaqiri.
Joselu Bojan and Butland too
Never forget the legend Choupo-Moting
can never forget crouchy
Any Stoke fans here think you'll keep Koumas for next season (on loan from Liverpool rn)?
I hope so but I would run for my life if I was him
Honestly I don’t think anyone outside of Stoke is devastated about their downfall 😂
For years they’ve tried to buy their way out of the league. Spending on players & pinching managers off of other clubs. Every summer, their fans get ahead of themselves only to finish bottom half 😂
You’re obviously not very well versed in championship affairs. If you look at our spending since the second season we came down, we’ve actually not spent half as much as the clubs around us. The only reasons we’ve been able to spend anything since Michael O’Neill took charge 4 years ago was because he balanced our books.
Dont make silly comments when you don’t know what you’re talking about. Silly boy.
I’m a Chelsea fan and while I’m not devastated about Stoke’s downfall it is quite sad to see. Would be nice to see them rise again soon
@@davidevans9033 more so wages, compensation in poaching & then sacking managers constantly. Bare in mind those parachute payments ran out a long time ago (wanna leave out the first 2 seasons because buying the league failed)
Either way more money has been wasted
@@liamjohnson4221 nicer clubs have dropped lower
Well I'm from Aberdeen and this does hurt.
Just to point out, Schumacher didn't buy any players. He was just a coach at Stoke City and not the manager, he had no decision-making power with regards to transfers.
The barclays era didn't end when they stopped sponsoring the premier league, but when Stoke got relegated
Remember John Walters hat trick of own goals? Those were the days 😂
We meed a video on dean marney
there is a common denominator to stoke's downfall- john coates
Love how this video has aged, since this video has been posted st9ke have won a game 6-1 and are playing extremely exciting football
Previously a mainstay you could rely on to retain their place in the league following absolute shithousery, represented prime Barclays in an exemplary manner. Not built on previous success, investment is evident but recruitment policies are flawed. Believe infrastructure was deeply flawed preceding relegation, with not enough passion/determination involved. Tactics have been 1 dimensional for years.
Sometimes it's nice to have a local billionaire family owning your club, other times they need to realise they either took them as far as they can, or they need to appoint better people in the boardroom who have a bold vision. They might have hit the right formula with Pelach, it might be another cycle of Stoke nonsense again. Who knows?
So sad them going downhill like this....
As you put a photo of the Venky’s do you think this can be the year Blackburn return to the Premier League?
Times have changed there, players aren't there for our club, just there for the chairman's £££
Peter Crouch was a legend!!
Look if my team (check badge) can get back to the Prem and look like a semi decent team then i have no doubt that Stoke can get back to the Prem some day. you just gotta hold onto that hope that's what kept me going in those 23 long years away from the Prem.
Hope you stay in the prem for a long long time. Forest are a great club. Unlike Stoke lol.