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24:15 I don't believe any Doctor drown because it is shown he used his remaining energy to restart the teleporter to bring himself back to life, so if he were drown, who and how and what would reactivate the teleporter to revive him?
@@demigod1014 Late to the party on this one, I know! But you’re right. The skulls solely just come from when the Doctor reactivates the long range teleport, and how they end up in the water is through the Doctor placing the skull on the turret, then falling as the walls shift Though, from what Harbo said, it would be pretty funny to see come cut content or a short of 12 running around in his birthday suit having to find ways to censor himself for this audience he always keeps in his head 😆
I fully believe that no other Doctor could have done this episode, at least not in the same way. And I’d say Peter Capaldi might actually be the best actor to play the Doctor outside of John Hurt (that’s no slight on anyone, they’re all wonderful, and Capaldi isn’t even my favourite, but I just think he is just that good an actor). This definitely one of the greatest episodes in all of Doctor Who’s history. I also feel like any other Doctor would have had some other clever way out, but 12? He’s just such a stubborn Scottish bastard that he’s going to punch through it for billions of years.
McGann, Hurt, Smith, Capaldi...all incredible actors. I love Ecclestone and Tennant but I do feel like the others have a lot more depth and nuance to their performance. Although I think Missy and the Toymaker are probably the greatest performances to ever grace the show.
While I totally applaud the opportunity to create content. I actually think focusing on every piece of the episode actually steals some of the magic and hurts the extra rewatch
Before him, I didnt feel anything as deeply as i did with Matt Smith, but his performance in the Zygon invasion specifically really sold me on his iteration of the interdimensional PTSD vet
And to think that My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic’s *The Cutie Map* was nominated alongside Heaven Sent for the Hugo Award of Best Dramatic Presentation in 2016. *That’s no joke!* 😅
Of course it’s not a joke, MLP is awesome. Also “The Cutie Map” was a pretty great political commentary with quite clear allusions to “George Orwell”, as well as some pretty nice similarities to Phillip Pullman’s “His Dark Materials”. Whilst I would put “Heaven Sent” as the better individual episode, MLP is overall superior to Doctor Who. MLP has more coherent lore and themes (with plenty of very specific mythological references). Also, MLP made a GREAT Dr Who reference in “Slice of Life”, with Dr Whooves. Pretty disappointed we didn’t get HW’s reaction.) The fact that MLP is looked down upon is, in my opinion, the greatest reason for its success. As soon as Star Wars, Doctor Who and LOTR became “accepted” by the mainstream, we got the Sequel Trilogy, Chibnall era and Rings of Power. Friendship is Magic was never really accepted by the mainstream, hence, the weirdos and corporatists who steal these things were never interested in FiM, so it was never corrupted.
@@killgriffinnowI'm not trying to tell you your opinion is wrong or anything, but even as a huge brony as a kid back in middle school, as an adult I can't stand that stuff lol. I thought it was bad after they turned Twilight into a princess and that's when I stopped watching as a kid, but even going back to what I enjoyed as a kid is impossible as an adult lol.
i think you got the skull part wrong but otherwise a great review. the doctor never died from the impact on the water because he couldnt have restarted the loop if that was the case. his final breath is always in the teleporter room starting it all over again before turning to bones and ash.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Time Lord had just popped inside to restart the teleport/cloner manually a few times. If they really wanted to know the info that badly they wouldn't let the doctor die permanently.
1. Doctor arrives, and completes cycle before burning himself to fuel teleport, leaving only skull. 2. Copy Doctor arrives, finds Skull, carries it to Tower and knocks it in water, before eventually burning himself to fuel teleport, leaving only Skull. 3. Go to 2, several billion times. It’s all there in the episode.
My favourite Doctor in the best episode of Doctor Who in its entire 60 years. A genuine contender for the best hour of television ever made. I couldn't believe how good it was first time I saw it, and it hasn't diminished one bit with age or foreknowledge. Just sublime.
I think the real reason this episode is so popular is because of the structure. It all just progresses smoothly from one plot point to the next without feeling rushed or dragging. It's constructed in such a way that there is no wasted dialogue, everything is focused and relevant, and due to the way the information is dispensed to the viewer it's actually better on a second watch. The diamond wall is not just a metaphor for grief, but for overcoming any obstacle.
I never thought it was the Doctor who painted the portrait of Clara in the Castle, I just assumed it was the Timelords that put it there to tease him of what he had lost. And the the fact that The Sheppard's Boy is based on a Brother's Grimm story also blew my mind in terms of how much the show takes from outside sources to get inspiration for some of its best work. Heaven Sent is a masterpiece. The Doctor going through everything he does to escape, on his own terms, never giving in either to his grief, or to the Timelords. I like to think that it could only have been Clara that he would have gone through that hell for 4½ billion years for because he loved her so much. She was always there to save his past selves when she splintered herself into his timestream, and she was there again to inspire and help save him again in his mind even after her death. She truly was the Impossible Girl because she did it here and because they cared so much for each other that not even death could totally seperate them, at least until the next episode. One last thing, you don't make stupid videos Harbo, they are great, detailed, informative and entertaining to watch! Only you can go into these super deep dives into Doctor Who and make all of us so much wiser and appreciate it that much more. I am really intrigued how you will analyze and critique Hell Bent next. That will truly be fascinating. Excellent work! 👍👏👍👏👍👏💐
In my headcanon the castle wasn't all designed by the time lords down to every detail; the big picture idea of how it works was designed by the time lords and then it adjusted itself specifically based on the Doctor's mind or something. So the portrait of Clara materialized directly because of Doctor's grief Although the idea that an earlier version of him painted it is a simpler explanation with a similar conclusion. But I'm not convinced he'd have enough time to spend in one place to paint a whole ass painting that actually looks good Edit: Unless he carried it around, I guess
I like your idea 💡 where the painting came about because of the Doctor's grief, not because of the Timelords. Why would they even bother creating a picture of her? She wouldn't even be on their radar I imagine unless they did it solely to torture the Doctor. That would be real sh*tty of them to do but I wouldn't put it past them.
honestly the it's all the days they stay dead thing really got to me when my grandparents died. the day they died (and the next 2 or so) were very eventful. we had to make arrangements and call people and set everything in order. and then it was suddenly all over. and there's nothing left to do apart from just. to be sad. it's genuinely such a good episode because it deals with grief in a very REAL way
Not sure how you came to the conclusion that The Doctor sometimes died in the water, because another version is only teleported to the castle by The Doctor himself. The events are the same each time, until he gets to the last room - and save for the first times he was leaving all the clues (and one of them had to leave their clothes). Regardless, you summed up the episode so well.
This episode has a very unique place in my heart. I absolutely LOVE the 12th doctor, but this is just peak television in general. It truly desrrves the apreciation it has from people inside and even outside the fandom
Such a beautiful and sad story. Capaldi was already in my top 3 Doctors before this episode, but Heaven Sent put him firmly in the #1 spot. This isn’t just one of the best Doctor Who episodes, it’s some of the best television ever produced in my opinion
This episode has such a special meaning to me. It aired quite literally the day my grandmother died, and I've often revisited it as a way of processing various griefs. It is a true collaborative work. Great video breaking it down. It's a testament that even with an hour long video about an hour long TV episode, there are still things that I could've added on.
for REAL tho. This episode has no joke saved my life during some really, really dark times. I avoid watching it too much because i don’t want to get the details memorized and dull its power.
Holy fucking shit I can't imagine experiencing something like the death of your grandmother, then literally on the same day going to watch the latest Doctor Who episode and getting *this* Holy fuck
@@xGOKOPx so I didn't actually see "Heaven Sent" on release since we had to fly out to see her. It was several months later by the time I finally got around to watching it.
This is the episode that rekindled my love for doctor who. I stopped watching after Capaldi thinking the show had just gone too big budget Hollywood sensibilities, but oh my God this episode reminded me why I liked the show to start with and encouraged me to watch the classic series from the very start. This episode is a culmination of decades of art.
I heard something about the first face a regeneration sees being precious to them. Clara was the 12th Doctor's first face. Much like Amelia Pond was the 11th's.
By far my fave Capaldi era episode alongside The Doctor Falls and one of my all time fave episodes of TV The writing and directing are just absolutely spot on and fires on all cylinders, it explores grief so masterfully and Peter Capaldi of course puts in an amazing performance as always, as usual he can say so much just by his face alone and him talking to himself is always great to see. He really can carry an episode on his own and this episode utilises his acting expertly Plus yeah, Rachel really is probably my fave Doctor Who directors, her work on this episode is just perfect and so many beautiful shots And the twist is so well done too and all the hints and bread crumbs spread throughout makes it really cool on a rewatch, and it just really shows how strong the doctor is mentally and his never give up attitude despite the odds
Hey Harbo, Only recently discovered your channel. I was a doctor who fan growing up and it was my entire childhood, and i've recently become addicted again. Over the past roughly 4 weeks i have watched every single episode review that you've put out to revisit all my favourite stories. They are all marvellous and i was disappointed to see that many of the recent ones have less views, so i thought i'd leave a comment to let you know how much they're appreciated. I hope my compliment is made as clear as possible when i say that you have reinvigorated my love for a show that I had moved on from and that i'm going to be a little bit lost having to wait for your new uploads instead of just having an entire season already there. I think you are a great creator and i wish you the best - thanks for entertaining me the past few weeks - what a perfect episode for me to finally catch up on.
Ever since I was a Film Student I always wanted to make a movie that was disguised as a horror film, but was actually a symbolism-filled journey that explored intense despair and misery. Watching Heaven Sent, I actually felt like Steven Moffat had turned the movie I always wanted to make into a Doctor Who episode, and did it better than I ever could have myself. I absolutely love it! A few things I particularly loved -- When The Doctor sees the closed Room 12, and sees the light on inside, and begins to talk into it, not only asking if someone is there, but almost hopelessly pleading for someone to be there. The line: "Or maybe I'm in Hell -- That's okay, Hell doesn't scare me. It's just Heaven for bad people." When Clara's shadow writes on the board, asking him how he is going to win, only for him to break down and plead to, just once, have it be okay for him to lose. The moment of music where Capaldi looks at the painting, as it sounds like music from the very late Tom Baker era. And I absolutely love when we see him burn himself, and then we cut back to him, one last time, on the TARDIS floor, beginning to cry, saying "How much longer can I do this Clara?! Burning the old me.. to try again.."
I actually talked to Peter about this episode at awesome con in DC about 7 or 8 years ago. I told him by far I believe that heaven scent is some of your best work on Doctor who and a superbly written episode. I asked him how it was for the most part acting completely by yourself and monologuing for the most part the entire episode. He agreed with me that he thinks that this is one of the best episodes in his run. And he said that it came down to the writing and how well it was written that it was so much fun to do if he said even though I was by myself. It was great talking to him about the episode and hearing how much he loved it and it was really nice to sit and talk to Peter capaldi he was very kind and just a wonderful person.
Just watched this yesterday for the first time in years. Blew me away again, more than the initial watch. How interesting that you posted this since it’s so fresh in my mind now. Thank you!
Peter gave it all on this episode. He was the best when it comes to speeches, he puts so much emotion behind every word that it's stunning. I just love 12th.
I went through a BIG breakup & lost my father this summer, I re watched heaven sent and connected with the doctor on a totally different level, (im doing better but still havent broken through the wall) this is such a special one. Thanks for another great review harbo ♡
I'm not a big fan of the way Moffatt handles season-long narratives (or female characters!), but when it comes to episodes like The Empty Child or Heaven Sent, I've really got to give it up to the man 👏🏼 He is a talent
I feel Capaldi didn’t really get the material to work with most of the time, but the occasions he did were brilliant. Other example being World Enough and Time, also directed by Rachel Talalay. You need a sense of real risk. This is without doubt my favourite episode of Doctor Who.
I wonder if after all those years the Veil was even paying attention or if it was just another Tuesday. Like, it's zoning out and just trudging along 😂
There's an official short story where the Veil is fully conscious of everything, never resetting like The Doctor. At first it's taught to hate The Doctor and want to kill him, but then it grows to be fond of him and wants him to escape, even though it's still forced to kill him, so it's happy when he breaks free. I think it's a stupid and unnecessary story, though.
Great review of Heaven Sent! This is the best story out of Post High School and this is my favorite story out of the Peter Capaldi Era. I will admit I think this story deserved an Emmy back then. I have to say I think this story does a great job exploring grief and having no other actors in this story makes this an interesting watch. I will admit I was really surprised to see Gallifrey and I was like no way. I really love the soundtrack by Murray Gold, and it is outstanding and the direction by Rachel Talalay is amazing and outstanding.
This will always be my absolute favourite episode of Doctor Who. I've watched a lot of episodes multiple times but this episode tops the list for the amount of rewatches I've done. There's just something so special and so unique about it that makes me gravitate to it so heavily. Absolutely phenomenally good episode.
one of my favorite things about this episode is showing how after death how much we can keep our loved ones alive by remembering what they taught us, thinking about what they’d say. it’s the best way to honor them. and you’re absolutely right clara made 12 better and seeing him “keep her alive” in that sense was so powerful. that’s how we ensure the ones we’ve lost mattered, by living as if they’re still there. this episode makes me sob it’s absolutely beautifully done
I always felt Dr Who opponent not only represented death ☠️ but an allegory for depression. When you are going through the thickness of the seven stages of grief that is the embodiment and weight of true depression. I loved your analysis 🎉on this episode it was well thought 💭 out and explained. Thought provoking as 🎉well
I want to believe that one day I will be surprised, but deep down I know, there is never going to be an episode as good as this one. Everything that comes after is just fighting for second place. It's not just because the script, direction, acting and oh god that music is all perfect. It came at a very crucial point in my life, I never look to see myself represented on screen, but it did represent all the feelings I was going through at the time. The only difference being I am still punching that wall inside my very own prison from hell, and I know I won't have the time to break through it. So it was cathartic to see someone get out.
It's not mocking him; it's restoring and raising the stakes. It's reminding us that the Doctor does have limits, and it gives us back the drama that the show tends to lose when our hero seems too superhuman.
I haven't ever really followed Doctor Who, but got wind of this episode the other day. I know it's part of a trilogy, but it's actually fantastic as a standalone. I've just been sitting here thinking of all the things I could say about it, it's just brilliant.
I’ve really loved returning to the Capaldi era alongside your reviews! Revisiting such great episodes can only be improved by following them up with a solid review each time!
When I first watched this episode I hated it, didn't understand it whatsoever and thought it was dull and boring. But then on the first ever rewatch it hit me how amazing and thought provoking the episode was. I think going through loss between the first and second viewings really made it that much more relatable and so beautiful, truly a perfectly crafted episode
Heaven Sent is, quite possibly, THE best episode of Doctor Who I've EVER seen! Aaaand it's near impossible to recommend to friends who aren't already Who fans because of how much context is kinda... required? Like, individual moments aren't what's needed. The ENTIRE Clara arc is practically required because otherwise you don't understand the Doctor's pain and grief!
While I agree partially that Clara couldn't do what the Doctor did, testing and judging, evaluating and planning on the fly in so very many ways, due to her limitations in comparison. I believe I should also point out how the humans the Doctor travels with, that the Doctor is so superior to transcend him as well. How Clara transcended him. Within a very short time Clara discovered her mistake, her hubris... and accepted it. Like anyone who knows they have limitations, she might aspire to more. However, when confronted with the inevitability, it can be accepted. And dealt with it. Yes, we know the stages of grief. Many of us have had to deal with them, and for some far too often. For losses of many kinds, not just ones of mortality. The Doctor *rarely* does so, however. When faced with a no win scenario, he runs. Always. Whether it is to stall for enough time to find a winning strategy, a clever ploy to achieve victory from defeat, or to distance himself from grief, he *always* runs. Clara didn't. When push came to shove, she did what he never has. Achieved victory through sacrifice. Until now. The Doctor needed to learn how to fail. And fail. And fail and fail and fail and fail again. Humility. And then, to accept that failure, without breaking. All of his failures.
I remember watching "The Zygon Inversion" and thinking "Wow! This is an amazing monolog! Capaldi can really act!!!".....little did I know what was in store with this episode!
Eleven and Twelve are particularly special for me because in 2019 I had lost my gf to murder and both helped me heal. Twelve's grief was far too relatable for me. So Heaven Sent holds a very very special place in my heart for the lessons it taught me
I just want to say this episode was great and I love how if your paying attention you can predict where the doc is along side him. Sure he’s running thousands of calculations in his head at the same time but you can’t tell me as soon as he got to the teleportation room he knew it was galifreyan in orgin. It screams Timelord tech
You mention that some of the skulls must have been from Doctors who drowned, they can't be. The implication of the episode is that every sequence plays out pretty much exactly the same. Otherwise there wouldn't be another Doctor. He *must* end the sequence with burning himself to power up the teleporter to make a new version of him. He never dies anywhere other than right there by the teleporter.
I stopped watching Doctor Who after Matt Smith left but caught this episode purely by chance because nothing else was on, it blew my mind so hard I spent the next three days catching up on everything I'd missed
Thank you for this video. I couldn't agree more that this is not merely (arguably) the best episode of Doctor Who, but possibly the best television episode that's ever been made. It was certainly the best I've ever seen. It was the reason I started watching Doctor Who--I'd seen little snippets from it in TH-cam videos, hunted down a sort of bootleg place I could watch it, visually reversed, and was completely blown away. I immediately went to Amazon and bought Series 1 and then when I finished that, Series 2, and then after that, Series 3, and then...well, you get the idea. And yesterday, I watched The Star Beast, so, I have not lost my interest in the slightest. And of all the people who discuss Doctor Who or react to episodes, your reviews and discussions are the most thorough and deep and thought-provoking and interesting that I have found. Even on those rare occasions when I disagree with your opinion on something, I deeply respect your thoughtfulness and care and knowledge. Bravo.
I was relatively disconnected with the opinions of the fandom when I first saw this episode and it has still remained my favorite ever episode of the series because it was just a great character study of The Doctor. Through talking to others, I only found more things to enjoy about it. Moffat has a lot of problems with his run as head writer (infinitely less than Chibnall did tho. It's just sad that he was the head writer for the first female doctor bc we deserved WAY better for that for the first woman to every play the role. Praying for the 2nd woman doctor to get an amazing run because the fans deserve that), but despite all that he wrote the episode I have revisited the most. Also this video was the first time I realized the monster was called "The Veil"
I don’t know about all time best, but it’s definitely a top 5 for me. This episode is what happens when you bring the phrases “do a lot with very little” and “show, don’t tell” to life in its purest form possible. This entire episode along with the speech in “Zygon Inversion” are what stole my silver medal from David Tennant and moved to Peter Capaldi.
Been doing a rewatch of Doctor who since we got the 14th and 15th Doctor. So its good to see these breakdowns of where the character is at an emotional and story level. Since your caught up with a lot of expanded media, and are very well versed, more easter eggs please!!
I don't comment on many video's but you definitely earmed a very well done from me, i can imagine this took a while for you to write/record/edit and I'm looking forward to the next 1. 👍
An absolutely beautiful episode and easily a Top 10. I also love how the title sequence has to hold on "Peter Capaldi" for like 15 seconds. Very jarring but badass
On the note of people talking “to” their lost loved ones, post-bereavement stress hallucinations(PBSH - I think I got the terminology slightly wrong, someone please correct me) are actually quite common and can take a large variety of forms. Having moments where you genuinely think the person is there, that you really can talk to them - this happens in tons of people without any history of, and largely aren’t a sign of or dependent on, other underlying conditions. If you experience these - no, you’re not going crazy and you aren’t alone in having these experiences.
I don't think he would have given up and died in the water, as it was his body that provided the matter for his next iteration. If he died in the water, there would have never been a "Next" doctor.
It's a funny joke about naked doctor but I don't think it's right , I think the point was the skull in the water are always the one that the doctor leaves on the battlement that falls . Which is why they show it a few times in the montage , every skull in there is from the doctors sacrifice to load a previous version of himself
Oh my goodness! When my grandma died, I watched this episode and related so much to what the 12th doctor was going through. Life after losing someone feels like being trapped in your own nightmare. Everything seems pointless and redundant. You're talking or going through life as if the person is still there - but really they aren't there anymore. In the end, you hope to break through the grief but it may take an "eternity" to do so.
I really like heaven sent because it reminds me of one of my favourite episodes of the Magnus Archives, Momument. It likewise takes place in a huge, constantly shifting structure specifically designed to torment those trapped inside. Specifically, it's designed to punish people for thinking they're smart, maintaining enough of a structured facade to make them think they can 'solve' it and escape, before snatching that hope away by revealing itself to be truly unpredictable. The people are kept alive for eternity, but not in the same way, as opposed to the restart that Heaven Sent uses, Monument instead has people remaining agonisingly conscious as they're bodies pull themselves back together after an unexpected drop has them plummet hundreds of feet. It's great stuff and I fully recommend it.
Especially in the better Doctor Who stories by Moffat, the Doctor _is_ basically a fairytale character. Of course he can outwit and outthink his enemies and make psychic links with wooden doors, he’s the Doctor. The struggle for him lies in the mental and emotional damage he has to endure, the question of “Can he still keep going despite everything that’s happened to him?” Doctor Who is a show where main characters are almost guaranteed to make it through the day…9 times out of 10, So the stories _should_ revolve around the emotions and internal situations the characters are going through, represented as physical obstacles. Doctor who is really good at this sort of thing because of how versatile it is and stories like Heaven Sent will always be right up my alley.
I lost a few people to father death... and many made me feel this way But its the recent breakup after 3 years that really makes me realise how i distract myself... before returning to reality and face my personal raven... to realize there is no easy way out There is this wall i need to punch and punch and punch until i am on the otherside of the pain... and at the end... she still won't be on the otherside... yeah she is alive... but i lost the person i loved more than someone else I am not alone... but she will not be there anymore She gave me the spark... but she won't be there anymore I live without her
Heaven Sent is really one of the episodes that makes me really have to think if Twelve is actually my favorite of the New Doctors and not Ten. Just a really fantastic episode.
23:56 I think another perspective could be him realizing how much work was put into this, and the need to maintain this suffering. I think that specific iteration of himself might have been the only one to lose motivation, lose the will to live. I think, untold to the audience, that the Doctor figures out what's going on fairly quickly. Maybe he doesn't understand _everything,_ but he knows enough to follow the line through to the end. I think him seeing the sea of his own skulls helps give him context. He jumps into the lake, sees the skulls, and likely knows they're his. That's a lot of skulls, how long has he been there? That night, he looks up at the sky, is astonished at how far in time he has traveled this way. He puts it all together by the time he reaches room 12, but every iteration of himself is more and more resolved to finish whatever it was the previous versions of himself started, because those bones just keep piling up, those stars keep moving apart. But the initial sight of the skulls, I think that's the reminder for him to not give up. Not because of a survival, "I don't want to die" instinct, but more of a, "I have died this many times, this is important." After that scene, I don't think, or at least I don't know, that the rest of his incarnations have that internal crisis anymore.
This was the episode that made me stayed as a Doctor Who fan. 9th was my first exposure to the Doctor by commercial on the old sci-fi channel and 11th was the Doctor I was familiar with the most as my cousins and my classmates, especially a girl I liked, was a whovian, but the 12th was *MY* Doctor. I was enjoying the Capaldi era, even wanting to get his suit, but Heaven Sent is the episode that made me convinced I’m Whovian than a casual viewer and went further on the lore and classic who. Due to starting late and finally getting access to watch BBC in the states, I binge watch the revival episodes to prepare myself for series 9, while the the episodes were good or fine, Heaven Sent was my definitive Doctor Who episode; my personal top favorite episode. I was overjoyed I wasn’t the only one to see the episode critically acclaimed by many and I’m still salty Jessica Jones robbed the episode’s Hugo award. Also, due to the Breaking the Wall scene, I fell for the soundtrack, The Shepherd’s Boy, I been listening to it for almost 10 years, most of the time as background music when I’m drawing or visualizing scenes, and I’m expecting the song to be on my top 10 on my 2023 Spotify thanks to the upcoming 60th anniversary.
24:20 it’s impossible that any version of twelve wouldn’t make it out of the water cause otherwise there would be no energy to produce the next version
they filmed a lot of those scenes in Cardiff Castle and honestly actually being there gives you shivers, the episode doesn't do the architecture justice.
27:18. The Doctor had spent over 7000 years running this category, becoming unmatched at the loop, but his greatest achievement… was this run. *Summoning Salt Presents: History of The Confession Dial Speedrunning (Any%)*
Interesting point about the Veil. It's bigger than the Doctor. And it would be... He was a child at the time and the body it's referencing from his memories was an adult. I always felt that that was a really cool detail, it doesn't just create a physically imposing monster but one that's physically imposing for a psychological reason
Magicians Apprentice/Witches Familiar episodes is what got me hooked on Dr. Who..... I watched all episodes from 9th to 12th, but fell away after the 13th was introduced.....
Idk if anyone else has noticed this but there's a VFX spoof on the DVD idk if it's in other versions but in a scene where Capaldi is talking to the veil on the tower there's a scene where the veil's hand looks like someone made a mistake in the greenscreen editing, it's slightly see through on the edge
Capaldi is my favorite doctor. He was a HARDCORE Whovian as a kid and grew up to actually play The Doctor. How magnificent! Bless this man! Uncle Grumpy Doctor must be protected at all costs! 😂
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The first viewing, I wasn't able to figure out what the episode is about. But then a bit of thinking and reviewing, I finally understand the very dark theme of the episode.
I cried several times throughout this episode. Coming off the heels of a terrible episode and a relatively weak season I wasn't ready for such a masterpiece.
Great episode indeed, though i can't stop thinking about the fact that all these billions of years don't make much sense. Because as doctor gets constantly rebooted, his memories don't transfer to new version. Sure, we as viewers can perceive this spiral and billions of years, but from doctor's perspective - he finds 12th room and finishes already broken enough wall from first try, instead of struggling for insane amount of time. It's actually his master mind that shines here, as his original version manages to design and start the spiral.
no, he remembers every time he gets to room 12, also if you think about it, he only spends 4 days there, that means his mind would be in a similar state to how it was when he first came up with the plan but yeah, in the scene where he says "i can't keep doing this clara" he explains he always remembers then, always then "always EXACTLY THEN" *throws monitor* he's not really supposed to, but i can give it a pass I give plot holes a pass if they server the CHARACTER WORK. plot holes and plot contrivances can be excused if it helps character writing, I value character more than plot, that's why i like gotham, the plot is shit, but how the characters interact is great plot is awful though what the actual fuck man that's why even though bill coming back in series 10 was perfectly set up and works perfectly for the plot, it does a disservice to the character and also I hate chibnalls era cause character and plot is both shit
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Why would we want to see reviews a day before watching it? LOLOLOL
24:15 I don't believe any Doctor drown because it is shown he used his remaining energy to restart the teleporter to bring himself back to life, so if he were drown, who and how and what would reactivate the teleporter to revive him?
@@demigod1014 Late to the party on this one, I know! But you’re right. The skulls solely just come from when the Doctor reactivates the long range teleport, and how they end up in the water is through the Doctor placing the skull on the turret, then falling as the walls shift
Though, from what Harbo said, it would be pretty funny to see come cut content or a short of 12 running around in his birthday suit having to find ways to censor himself for this audience he always keeps in his head 😆
I fully believe that no other Doctor could have done this episode, at least not in the same way. And I’d say Peter Capaldi might actually be the best actor to play the Doctor outside of John Hurt (that’s no slight on anyone, they’re all wonderful, and Capaldi isn’t even my favourite, but I just think he is just that good an actor). This definitely one of the greatest episodes in all of Doctor Who’s history. I also feel like any other Doctor would have had some other clever way out, but 12? He’s just such a stubborn Scottish bastard that he’s going to punch through it for billions of years.
Can’t argue with that! 🌟
Beautiful
McGann, Hurt, Smith, Capaldi...all incredible actors. I love Ecclestone and Tennant but I do feel like the others have a lot more depth and nuance to their performance.
Although I think Missy and the Toymaker are probably the greatest performances to ever grace the show.
@@JoshWinibergDon't bring up the Toymaker
@@TheSantach oh how come?
Habo explaining how and why only the doctor could pull off monologuing for an hour straight in Habo's hour long monologue.
He and I are truly kindred spirits
Monologue-ception
Gasp! Maybe he’s actually the Doctor!
While I totally applaud the opportunity to create content. I actually think focusing on every piece of the episode actually steals some of the magic and hurts the extra rewatch
@@HarboWholmes I don't acc understand this episode.
For me, Capaldi treated his run as the Doctor as a play. His inflections and acting show a great arc for the doctor. My favorite Doctor so far!
a second watch is an absolute delight
it’s beautiful how human and alien he is able to be all at once
Before him, I didnt feel anything as deeply as i did with Matt Smith, but his performance in the Zygon invasion specifically really sold me on his iteration of the interdimensional PTSD vet
Absolutely, i think he's underrated
And to think that My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic’s *The Cutie Map* was nominated alongside Heaven Sent for the Hugo Award of Best Dramatic Presentation in 2016. *That’s no joke!* 😅
Of course it’s not a joke, MLP is awesome. Also “The Cutie Map” was a pretty great political commentary with quite clear allusions to “George Orwell”, as well as some pretty nice similarities to Phillip Pullman’s “His Dark Materials”.
Whilst I would put “Heaven Sent” as the better individual episode, MLP is overall superior to Doctor Who. MLP has more coherent lore and themes (with plenty of very specific mythological references). Also, MLP made a GREAT Dr Who reference in “Slice of Life”, with Dr Whooves. Pretty disappointed we didn’t get HW’s reaction.)
The fact that MLP is looked down upon is, in my opinion, the greatest reason for its success. As soon as Star Wars, Doctor Who and LOTR became “accepted” by the mainstream, we got the Sequel Trilogy, Chibnall era and Rings of Power. Friendship is Magic was never really accepted by the mainstream, hence, the weirdos and corporatists who steal these things were never interested in FiM, so it was never corrupted.
@@killgriffinnowAnd it lost to a Jessica Jones episode. I’m sure the episode’s great and all, but I man I was sad that HS didn’t win.
@@mackielunkey2205
Yeah, both of us agree that HS should have won, that was one of the best TV Episodes ever.
@@killgriffinnowI'm not trying to tell you your opinion is wrong or anything, but even as a huge brony as a kid back in middle school, as an adult I can't stand that stuff lol. I thought it was bad after they turned Twilight into a princess and that's when I stopped watching as a kid, but even going back to what I enjoyed as a kid is impossible as an adult lol.
@@mackielunkey2205I LOVE Jessica Jones, it's literally my favorite "super-hero" but there's no episode that comes even close to HS, honestly.
i think you got the skull part wrong but otherwise a great review. the doctor never died from the impact on the water because he couldnt have restarted the loop if that was the case. his final breath is always in the teleporter room starting it all over again before turning to bones and ash.
That's exactly what I was thinking
Yep. Every single time he died was dragging himself back to the teleporter and burning himself to restart the loop.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Time Lord had just popped inside to restart the teleport/cloner manually a few times. If they really wanted to know the info that badly they wouldn't let the doctor die permanently.
1. Doctor arrives, and completes cycle before burning himself to fuel teleport, leaving only skull. 2. Copy Doctor arrives, finds Skull, carries it to Tower and knocks it in water, before eventually burning himself to fuel teleport, leaving only Skull. 3. Go to 2, several billion times.
It’s all there in the episode.
@@howardwhitehead3454 yeah! thats what i meant
My favourite Doctor in the best episode of Doctor Who in its entire 60 years. A genuine contender for the best hour of television ever made. I couldn't believe how good it was first time I saw it, and it hasn't diminished one bit with age or foreknowledge. Just sublime.
Absolutely agree!!
So glad to see it voted most popular episode of all time by DWM readers. By a long way too, over 30% of the vote
Don't really understand why. It's good, but best episode ever? Definitely not. The Day Of The Doctor will always be Doctor Who's best to me.
World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls got so close though to number one. Nonetheless, I guess Heaven Sent deserved it.
@@CineScarboroughclown…day of the doctor is a good fun episode but it isn’t nearly as well written as this masterpiece
@@humanoidgaming6582sounds like recency bias is powerful
I think the real reason this episode is so popular is because of the structure. It all just progresses smoothly from one plot point to the next without feeling rushed or dragging. It's constructed in such a way that there is no wasted dialogue, everything is focused and relevant, and due to the way the information is dispensed to the viewer it's actually better on a second watch. The diamond wall is not just a metaphor for grief, but for overcoming any obstacle.
Exactly. The pacing is golden and makes the episode
I never thought it was the Doctor who painted the portrait of Clara in the Castle, I just assumed it was the Timelords that put it there to tease him of what he had lost. And the the fact that The Sheppard's Boy is based on a Brother's Grimm story also blew my mind in terms of how much the show takes from outside sources to get inspiration for some of its best work.
Heaven Sent is a masterpiece. The Doctor going through everything he does to escape, on his own terms, never giving in either to his grief, or to the Timelords. I like to think that it could only have been Clara that he would have gone through that hell for 4½ billion years for because he loved her so much. She was always there to save his past selves when she splintered herself into his timestream, and she was there again to inspire and help save him again in his mind even after her death. She truly was the Impossible Girl because she did it here and because they cared so much for each other that not even death could totally seperate them, at least until the next episode.
One last thing, you don't make stupid videos Harbo, they are great, detailed, informative and entertaining to watch! Only you can go into these super deep dives into Doctor Who and make all of us so much wiser and appreciate it that much more. I am really intrigued how you will analyze and critique Hell Bent next. That will truly be fascinating. Excellent work! 👍👏👍👏👍👏💐
In my headcanon the castle wasn't all designed by the time lords down to every detail; the big picture idea of how it works was designed by the time lords and then it adjusted itself specifically based on the Doctor's mind or something. So the portrait of Clara materialized directly because of Doctor's grief
Although the idea that an earlier version of him painted it is a simpler explanation with a similar conclusion. But I'm not convinced he'd have enough time to spend in one place to paint a whole ass painting that actually looks good
Edit: Unless he carried it around, I guess
I like your idea 💡 where the painting came about because of the Doctor's grief, not because of the Timelords. Why would they even bother creating a picture of her? She wouldn't even be on their radar I imagine unless they did it solely to torture the Doctor. That would be real sh*tty of them to do but I wouldn't put it past them.
Moffatt says his conception when writing was that the Doctor painted the portrait.
honestly the it's all the days they stay dead thing really got to me when my grandparents died. the day they died (and the next 2 or so) were very eventful. we had to make arrangements and call people and set everything in order. and then it was suddenly all over. and there's nothing left to do apart from just. to be sad. it's genuinely such a good episode because it deals with grief in a very REAL way
Not sure how you came to the conclusion that The Doctor sometimes died in the water, because another version is only teleported to the castle by The Doctor himself. The events are the same each time, until he gets to the last room - and save for the first times he was leaving all the clues (and one of them had to leave their clothes).
Regardless, you summed up the episode so well.
This episode has a very unique place in my heart. I absolutely LOVE the 12th doctor, but this is just peak television in general.
It truly desrrves the apreciation it has from people inside and even outside the fandom
Such a beautiful and sad story. Capaldi was already in my top 3 Doctors before this episode, but Heaven Sent put him firmly in the #1 spot.
This isn’t just one of the best Doctor Who episodes, it’s some of the best television ever produced in my opinion
Best choice to release this on Doctor who day. The story that cemented Capaldi as my favourite incarnation ever! 🎉
This episode has such a special meaning to me. It aired quite literally the day my grandmother died, and I've often revisited it as a way of processing various griefs. It is a true collaborative work.
Great video breaking it down. It's a testament that even with an hour long video about an hour long TV episode, there are still things that I could've added on.
for REAL tho. This episode has no joke saved my life during some really, really dark times. I avoid watching it too much because i don’t want to get the details memorized and dull its power.
Holy fucking shit
I can't imagine experiencing something like the death of your grandmother, then literally on the same day going to watch the latest Doctor Who episode and getting *this*
Holy fuck
@@xGOKOPx so I didn't actually see "Heaven Sent" on release since we had to fly out to see her. It was several months later by the time I finally got around to watching it.
@@backpackerraden6268 oh ok
That image of Capaldi is not only his most iconic image but might be one of the definitive iconic images in the shows history.
This is the episode that rekindled my love for doctor who.
I stopped watching after Capaldi thinking the show had just gone too big budget Hollywood sensibilities, but oh my God this episode reminded me why I liked the show to start with and encouraged me to watch the classic series from the very start.
This episode is a culmination of decades of art.
For me, 12 is The Doctor, my Doctor. And this episode is absolute gold. Pure Capaldi gold for neigh on an hour.
I heard something about the first face a regeneration sees being precious to them.
Clara was the 12th Doctor's first face.
Much like Amelia Pond was the 11th's.
Ohh I didn't realize that.
Capaldi is such an excellent actor, he was definitely the perfect doctor to be placed in this story
By far my fave Capaldi era episode alongside The Doctor Falls and one of my all time fave episodes of TV
The writing and directing are just absolutely spot on and fires on all cylinders, it explores grief so masterfully and Peter Capaldi of course puts in an amazing performance as always, as usual he can say so much just by his face alone and him talking to himself is always great to see. He really can carry an episode on his own and this episode utilises his acting expertly
Plus yeah, Rachel really is probably my fave Doctor Who directors, her work on this episode is just perfect and so many beautiful shots
And the twist is so well done too and all the hints and bread crumbs spread throughout makes it really cool on a rewatch, and it just really shows how strong the doctor is mentally and his never give up attitude despite the odds
Honesty this is one od the best reviews youve ever put up for doctor who especially to a unique story like this
Great job
Hey Harbo,
Only recently discovered your channel. I was a doctor who fan growing up and it was my entire childhood, and i've recently become addicted again. Over the past roughly 4 weeks i have watched every single episode review that you've put out to revisit all my favourite stories. They are all marvellous and i was disappointed to see that many of the recent ones have less views, so i thought i'd leave a comment to let you know how much they're appreciated. I hope my compliment is made as clear as possible when i say that you have reinvigorated my love for a show that I had moved on from and that i'm going to be a little bit lost having to wait for your new uploads instead of just having an entire season already there. I think you are a great creator and i wish you the best - thanks for entertaining me the past few weeks - what a perfect episode for me to finally catch up on.
Ever since I was a Film Student I always wanted to make a movie that was disguised as a horror film, but was actually a symbolism-filled journey that explored intense despair and misery. Watching Heaven Sent, I actually felt like Steven Moffat had turned the movie I always wanted to make into a Doctor Who episode, and did it better than I ever could have myself. I absolutely love it!
A few things I particularly loved --
When The Doctor sees the closed Room 12, and sees the light on inside, and begins to talk into it, not only asking if someone is there, but almost hopelessly pleading for someone to be there.
The line: "Or maybe I'm in Hell -- That's okay, Hell doesn't scare me. It's just Heaven for bad people."
When Clara's shadow writes on the board, asking him how he is going to win, only for him to break down and plead to, just once, have it be okay for him to lose.
The moment of music where Capaldi looks at the painting, as it sounds like music from the very late Tom Baker era.
And I absolutely love when we see him burn himself, and then we cut back to him, one last time, on the TARDIS floor, beginning to cry, saying "How much longer can I do this Clara?! Burning the old me.. to try again.."
3:44 'and no, that doesn't mean it's a River Song episode.'
I... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I actually talked to Peter about this episode at awesome con in DC about 7 or 8 years ago. I told him by far I believe that heaven scent is some of your best work on Doctor who and a superbly written episode. I asked him how it was for the most part acting completely by yourself and monologuing for the most part the entire episode. He agreed with me that he thinks that this is one of the best episodes in his run. And he said that it came down to the writing and how well it was written that it was so much fun to do if he said even though I was by myself. It was great talking to him about the episode and hearing how much he loved it and it was really nice to sit and talk to Peter capaldi he was very kind and just a wonderful person.
Just watched this yesterday for the first time in years. Blew me away again, more than the initial watch. How interesting that you posted this since it’s so fresh in my mind now. Thank you!
Peter gave it all on this episode. He was the best when it comes to speeches, he puts so much emotion behind every word that it's stunning.
I just love 12th.
I went through a BIG breakup & lost my father this summer, I re watched heaven sent and connected with the doctor on a totally different level, (im doing better but still havent broken through the wall) this is such a special one.
Thanks for another great review harbo ♡
I'm not a big fan of the way Moffatt handles season-long narratives (or female characters!), but when it comes to episodes like The Empty Child or Heaven Sent, I've really got to give it up to the man 👏🏼 He is a talent
I feel Capaldi didn’t really get the material to work with most of the time, but the occasions he did were brilliant. Other example being World Enough and Time, also directed by Rachel Talalay. You need a sense of real risk. This is without doubt my favourite episode of Doctor Who.
I wonder if after all those years the Veil was even paying attention or if it was just another Tuesday. Like, it's zoning out and just trudging along 😂
There's an official short story where the Veil is fully conscious of everything, never resetting like The Doctor. At first it's taught to hate The Doctor and want to kill him, but then it grows to be fond of him and wants him to escape, even though it's still forced to kill him, so it's happy when he breaks free. I think it's a stupid and unnecessary story, though.
@@HarboWholmes idk man thats kinda beautiful
@@HarboWholmes oh that's interesting! I didn't know that. But yeah, I almost like my idea better 😂
I just rewatched the episode for the first time in years, it was a masterpiece, best episode of the show hands down
This episode needs a S+ rank it's that good
Great review of Heaven Sent! This is the best story out of Post High School and this is my favorite story out of the Peter Capaldi Era. I will admit I think this story deserved an Emmy back then. I have to say I think this story does a great job exploring grief and having no other actors in this story makes this an interesting watch. I will admit I was really surprised to see Gallifrey and I was like no way. I really love the soundtrack by Murray Gold, and it is outstanding and the direction by Rachel Talalay is amazing and outstanding.
This will always be my absolute favourite episode of Doctor Who. I've watched a lot of episodes multiple times but this episode tops the list for the amount of rewatches I've done. There's just something so special and so unique about it that makes me gravitate to it so heavily. Absolutely phenomenally good episode.
one of my favorite things about this episode is showing how after death how much we can keep our loved ones alive by remembering what they taught us, thinking about what they’d say. it’s the best way to honor them. and you’re absolutely right clara made 12 better and seeing him “keep her alive” in that sense was so powerful. that’s how we ensure the ones we’ve lost mattered, by living as if they’re still there. this episode makes me sob it’s absolutely beautifully done
The best possible review you could have released on the 60th anniversary
I always felt Dr Who opponent not only represented death ☠️ but an allegory for depression.
When you are going through the thickness of the seven stages of grief that is the embodiment and weight of true depression.
I loved your analysis 🎉on this episode it was well thought 💭 out and explained.
Thought provoking as 🎉well
This is the most beautiful episode of doctor who and maybe one of the most beautiful episodes of any show ever. I love this episode more than anything
Still my favorite episode of Doctor Who ever. I don't think it'll ever be surpassed.
I want to believe that one day I will be surprised, but deep down I know, there is never going to be an episode as good as this one. Everything that comes after is just fighting for second place. It's not just because the script, direction, acting and oh god that music is all perfect. It came at a very crucial point in my life, I never look to see myself represented on screen, but it did represent all the feelings I was going through at the time. The only difference being I am still punching that wall inside my very own prison from hell, and I know I won't have the time to break through it. So it was cathartic to see someone get out.
It's not mocking him; it's restoring and raising the stakes. It's reminding us that the Doctor does have limits, and it gives us back the drama that the show tends to lose when our hero seems too superhuman.
I haven't ever really followed Doctor Who, but got wind of this episode the other day. I know it's part of a trilogy, but it's actually fantastic as a standalone. I've just been sitting here thinking of all the things I could say about it, it's just brilliant.
I’ve really loved returning to the Capaldi era alongside your reviews! Revisiting such great episodes can only be improved by following them up with a solid review each time!
When I first watched this episode I hated it, didn't understand it whatsoever and thought it was dull and boring. But then on the first ever rewatch it hit me how amazing and thought provoking the episode was. I think going through loss between the first and second viewings really made it that much more relatable and so beautiful, truly a perfectly crafted episode
As someone who lives in south Florida, I just wanted to say "Bravo" about your use of Florida as the image of the netherworld. You are NOT wrong.
Heaven Sent is, quite possibly, THE best episode of Doctor Who I've EVER seen!
Aaaand it's near impossible to recommend to friends who aren't already Who fans because of how much context is kinda... required?
Like, individual moments aren't what's needed. The ENTIRE Clara arc is practically required because otherwise you don't understand the Doctor's pain and grief!
While I agree partially that Clara couldn't do what the Doctor did, testing and judging, evaluating and planning on the fly in so very many ways, due to her limitations in comparison. I believe I should also point out how the humans the Doctor travels with, that the Doctor is so superior to transcend him as well.
How Clara transcended him.
Within a very short time Clara discovered her mistake, her hubris... and accepted it. Like anyone who knows they have limitations, she might aspire to more. However, when confronted with the inevitability, it can be accepted. And dealt with it.
Yes, we know the stages of grief. Many of us have had to deal with them, and for some far too often. For losses of many kinds, not just ones of mortality.
The Doctor *rarely* does so, however. When faced with a no win scenario, he runs. Always. Whether it is to stall for enough time to find a winning strategy, a clever ploy to achieve victory from defeat, or to distance himself from grief, he *always* runs.
Clara didn't. When push came to shove, she did what he never has. Achieved victory through sacrifice.
Until now.
The Doctor needed to learn how to fail. And fail. And fail and fail and fail and fail again. Humility.
And then, to accept that failure, without breaking. All of his failures.
I remember watching "The Zygon Inversion" and thinking "Wow! This is an amazing monolog! Capaldi can really act!!!".....little did I know what was in store with this episode!
Eleven and Twelve are particularly special for me because in 2019 I had lost my gf to murder and both helped me heal. Twelve's grief was far too relatable for me.
So Heaven Sent holds a very very special place in my heart for the lessons it taught me
I just want to say this episode was great and I love how if your paying attention you can predict where the doc is along side him. Sure he’s running thousands of calculations in his head at the same time but you can’t tell me as soon as he got to the teleportation room he knew it was galifreyan in orgin. It screams Timelord tech
You mention that some of the skulls must have been from Doctors who drowned, they can't be.
The implication of the episode is that every sequence plays out pretty much exactly the same. Otherwise there wouldn't be another Doctor. He *must* end the sequence with burning himself to power up the teleporter to make a new version of him.
He never dies anywhere other than right there by the teleporter.
It will always be a timeless masterpiece .It can not be matched .
One of my most fondly remembered 12 episodes. I think it's definitely one of the best of the show
I stopped watching Doctor Who after Matt Smith left but caught this episode purely by chance because nothing else was on, it blew my mind so hard I spent the next three days catching up on everything I'd missed
Thank you for this video. I couldn't agree more that this is not merely (arguably) the best episode of Doctor Who, but possibly the best television episode that's ever been made. It was certainly the best I've ever seen. It was the reason I started watching Doctor Who--I'd seen little snippets from it in TH-cam videos, hunted down a sort of bootleg place I could watch it, visually reversed, and was completely blown away. I immediately went to Amazon and bought Series 1 and then when I finished that, Series 2, and then after that, Series 3, and then...well, you get the idea. And yesterday, I watched The Star Beast, so, I have not lost my interest in the slightest. And of all the people who discuss Doctor Who or react to episodes, your reviews and discussions are the most thorough and deep and thought-provoking and interesting that I have found. Even on those rare occasions when I disagree with your opinion on something, I deeply respect your thoughtfulness and care and knowledge. Bravo.
I was relatively disconnected with the opinions of the fandom when I first saw this episode and it has still remained my favorite ever episode of the series because it was just a great character study of The Doctor. Through talking to others, I only found more things to enjoy about it. Moffat has a lot of problems with his run as head writer (infinitely less than Chibnall did tho. It's just sad that he was the head writer for the first female doctor bc we deserved WAY better for that for the first woman to every play the role. Praying for the 2nd woman doctor to get an amazing run because the fans deserve that), but despite all that he wrote the episode I have revisited the most. Also this video was the first time I realized the monster was called "The Veil"
I don’t know about all time best, but it’s definitely a top 5 for me. This episode is what happens when you bring the phrases “do a lot with very little” and “show, don’t tell” to life in its purest form possible. This entire episode along with the speech in “Zygon Inversion” are what stole my silver medal from David Tennant and moved to Peter Capaldi.
Been doing a rewatch of Doctor who since we got the 14th and 15th Doctor. So its good to see these breakdowns of where the character is at an emotional and story level. Since your caught up with a lot of expanded media, and are very well versed, more easter eggs please!!
I love the sets for this episode. It makes it feel like a cross between an isolated lighthouse and an MC Escher drawing.
I don't comment on many video's but you definitely earmed a very well done from me, i can imagine this took a while for you to write/record/edit and I'm looking forward to the next 1. 👍
An absolutely beautiful episode and easily a Top 10. I also love how the title sequence has to hold on "Peter Capaldi" for like 15 seconds. Very jarring but badass
Perfect timing. Happy 60th birthday Doctor Who! The sixtieth second of eternity has passed! :D
On the note of people talking “to” their lost loved ones, post-bereavement stress hallucinations(PBSH - I think I got the terminology slightly wrong, someone please correct me) are actually quite common and can take a large variety of forms.
Having moments where you genuinely think the person is there, that you really can talk to them - this happens in tons of people without any history of, and largely aren’t a sign of or dependent on, other underlying conditions.
If you experience these - no, you’re not going crazy and you aren’t alone in having these experiences.
Thank you for such an amazing review of my favourite new era Doctor Who story. Best review I've seen.
I don't think he would have given up and died in the water, as it was his body that provided the matter for his next iteration. If he died in the water, there would have never been a "Next" doctor.
Totally agree. The episode had me completely fixated. One of the few I could easily watch again repeatedly. Genius writing and superb performance.
It's a funny joke about naked doctor but I don't think it's right , I think the point was the skull in the water are always the one that the doctor leaves on the battlement that falls . Which is why they show it a few times in the montage , every skull in there is from the doctors sacrifice to load a previous version of himself
Anytime I lose someone close to me I put on heaven sent. It somehow makes things easier
Oh my goodness! When my grandma died, I watched this episode and related so much to what the 12th doctor was going through. Life after losing someone feels like being trapped in your own nightmare. Everything seems pointless and redundant. You're talking or going through life as if the person is still there - but really they aren't there anymore. In the end, you hope to break through the grief but it may take an "eternity" to do so.
I’ll definitely have to watch both again, but after your review, “Heaven Sent” really reminds me of the Adventure Time episode “Hall Of Egress”
I really like heaven sent because it reminds me of one of my favourite episodes of the Magnus Archives, Momument. It likewise takes place in a huge, constantly shifting structure specifically designed to torment those trapped inside. Specifically, it's designed to punish people for thinking they're smart, maintaining enough of a structured facade to make them think they can 'solve' it and escape, before snatching that hope away by revealing itself to be truly unpredictable. The people are kept alive for eternity, but not in the same way, as opposed to the restart that Heaven Sent uses, Monument instead has people remaining agonisingly conscious as they're bodies pull themselves back together after an unexpected drop has them plummet hundreds of feet.
It's great stuff and I fully recommend it.
I always liked Capaldi as the Doctor, but Heaven Sent/Hell Bent made him my favourite Doctor. Loved your coverage of both!
Like you said, I've been waiting for this one since you started the series. This was worth the wait, thanks for the content!
Especially in the better Doctor Who stories by Moffat, the Doctor _is_ basically a fairytale character. Of course he can outwit and outthink his enemies and make psychic links with wooden doors, he’s the Doctor. The struggle for him lies in the mental and emotional damage he has to endure, the question of “Can he still keep going despite everything that’s happened to him?”
Doctor Who is a show where main characters are almost guaranteed to make it through the day…9 times out of 10, So the stories _should_ revolve around the emotions and internal situations the characters are going through, represented as physical obstacles. Doctor who is really good at this sort of thing because of how versatile it is and stories like Heaven Sent will always be right up my alley.
Your timing is top-notch! This was the PERFECT episode to review on the PERFECT day!
I remember when this aired. When the montage happened and we saw the cycle all sped up, I just sat there thinking "this is incredible".
I lost a few people to father death... and many made me feel this way
But its the recent breakup after 3 years that really makes me realise how i distract myself... before returning to reality and face my personal raven... to realize there is no easy way out
There is this wall i need to punch and punch and punch until i am on the otherside of the pain... and at the end... she still won't be on the otherside... yeah she is alive... but i lost the person i loved more than someone else
I am not alone... but she will not be there anymore
She gave me the spark... but she won't be there anymore
I live without her
Heaven Sent is really one of the episodes that makes me really have to think if Twelve is actually my favorite of the New Doctors and not Ten. Just a really fantastic episode.
23:56 I think another perspective could be him realizing how much work was put into this, and the need to maintain this suffering. I think that specific iteration of himself might have been the only one to lose motivation, lose the will to live.
I think, untold to the audience, that the Doctor figures out what's going on fairly quickly. Maybe he doesn't understand _everything,_ but he knows enough to follow the line through to the end.
I think him seeing the sea of his own skulls helps give him context. He jumps into the lake, sees the skulls, and likely knows they're his. That's a lot of skulls, how long has he been there? That night, he looks up at the sky, is astonished at how far in time he has traveled this way. He puts it all together by the time he reaches room 12, but every iteration of himself is more and more resolved to finish whatever it was the previous versions of himself started, because those bones just keep piling up, those stars keep moving apart.
But the initial sight of the skulls, I think that's the reminder for him to not give up. Not because of a survival, "I don't want to die" instinct, but more of a, "I have died this many times, this is important." After that scene, I don't think, or at least I don't know, that the rest of his incarnations have that internal crisis anymore.
I'd make an S+ rank just for this one. It's in a league of its own.
This episode hit me like a wall of azbamtium when I was randomly binging doctor who munching on some snacks one afternoon
This was the episode that made me stayed as a Doctor Who fan. 9th was my first exposure to the Doctor by commercial on the old sci-fi channel and 11th was the Doctor I was familiar with the most as my cousins and my classmates, especially a girl I liked, was a whovian, but the 12th was *MY* Doctor. I was enjoying the Capaldi era, even wanting to get his suit, but Heaven Sent is the episode that made me convinced I’m Whovian than a casual viewer and went further on the lore and classic who.
Due to starting late and finally getting access to watch BBC in the states, I binge watch the revival episodes to prepare myself for series 9, while the the episodes were good or fine, Heaven Sent was my definitive Doctor Who episode; my personal top favorite episode. I was overjoyed I wasn’t the only one to see the episode critically acclaimed by many and I’m still salty Jessica Jones robbed the episode’s Hugo award. Also, due to the Breaking the Wall scene, I fell for the soundtrack, The Shepherd’s Boy, I been listening to it for almost 10 years, most of the time as background music when I’m drawing or visualizing scenes, and I’m expecting the song to be on my top 10 on my 2023 Spotify thanks to the upcoming 60th anniversary.
24:20 it’s impossible that any version of twelve wouldn’t make it out of the water cause otherwise there would be no energy to produce the next version
Lets not forget, capaldi is just amazing af
Also the track shepherds boy which plays over the montage is one of my favourite musical pieces in general.
Heaven Sent and Hell Bent are some of my top favorite Who episodes. It showed me how good of a actor he was.
they filmed a lot of those scenes in Cardiff Castle and honestly actually being there gives you shivers, the episode doesn't do the architecture justice.
27:18. The Doctor had spent over 7000 years running this category, becoming unmatched at the loop, but his greatest achievement… was this run.
*Summoning Salt Presents: History of The Confession Dial Speedrunning (Any%)*
Interesting point about the Veil. It's bigger than the Doctor. And it would be... He was a child at the time and the body it's referencing from his memories was an adult. I always felt that that was a really cool detail, it doesn't just create a physically imposing monster but one that's physically imposing for a psychological reason
Magicians Apprentice/Witches Familiar episodes is what got me hooked on Dr. Who.....
I watched all episodes from 9th to 12th, but fell away after the 13th was introduced.....
Idk if anyone else has noticed this but there's a VFX spoof on the DVD idk if it's in other versions but in a scene where Capaldi is talking to the veil on the tower there's a scene where the veil's hand looks like someone made a mistake in the greenscreen editing, it's slightly see through on the edge
Capaldi is my favorite doctor. He was a HARDCORE Whovian as a kid and grew up to actually play The Doctor. How magnificent! Bless this man! Uncle Grumpy Doctor must be protected at all costs! 😂
The episode harkens back to the Moffatt Doctor Who parody Curse of Fatal Death with the castle setting and thousands of year long escapes
Wisdom and cleverness are valuable traits that can be found in anyone, regardless of their social standing.
Thinking creatively and approaching problems with a different perspective can lead to unexpected and successful outcomes.
Knowledge isn’t about having all the answers; it's often about how you think and the clever ways you approach problems.
The first viewing, I wasn't able to figure out what the episode is about. But then a bit of thinking and reviewing, I finally understand the very dark theme of the episode.
You know its a good episode when the review is almost equally as long
I cried several times throughout this episode. Coming off the heels of a terrible episode and a relatively weak season I wasn't ready for such a masterpiece.
Great episode indeed, though i can't stop thinking about the fact that all these billions of years don't make much sense. Because as doctor gets constantly rebooted, his memories don't transfer to new version. Sure, we as viewers can perceive this spiral and billions of years, but from doctor's perspective - he finds 12th room and finishes already broken enough wall from first try, instead of struggling for insane amount of time. It's actually his master mind that shines here, as his original version manages to design and start the spiral.
no, he remembers every time he gets to room 12, also if you think about it, he only spends 4 days there, that means his mind would be in a similar state to how it was when he first came up with the plan
but yeah, in the scene where he says "i can't keep doing this clara" he explains he always remembers then, always then "always EXACTLY THEN" *throws monitor*
he's not really supposed to, but i can give it a pass
I give plot holes a pass if they server the CHARACTER WORK. plot holes and plot contrivances can be excused if it helps character writing, I value character more than plot, that's why i like gotham, the plot is shit, but how the characters interact is great
plot is awful though what the actual fuck man
that's why even though bill coming back in series 10 was perfectly set up and works perfectly for the plot, it does a disservice to the character
and also I hate chibnalls era cause character and plot is both shit