Why Working Dogs Aren’t Like Other Dogs
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you would try and sell your viewers anything for a buck, even if the product is shit and you've never used it before. this is why I don't trust you and won't watch your videos.
@@bam-bo holy chill out, just skip the ads if you don’t like it instead of commenting on a video of how you don’t like it.
Shakira the chicken has no feathers in her back
I think you have adequately addressed any criticism that people might have - Toby is clearly a happy and loved dog. I really think people are thrown off because he is so beautiful and looks so cuddly and has the sweetest eyes - they think he deserves "a place at the table", so to speak, not realizing that the outdoor farm area is his happy place!
those people are relating their feeling as humans with a dog. thinking "I" will be sad if "I" live outside. forgetting that their are furless monkey.
In most of the world, having a dog live in your house is the strange choice that people feel the need to defend
People weirdly anthropomorphize animals, and will indignantly try to defend their weird ideas about animals that would naturally live in nature, suddenly being out of place when taken away from a human's "living box"... This dog does not care about your house. This dog doesn't care about your dinner table. This space outdoors _is_ it's natural home. These people only have one basic canine experience in their lives, and ignorantly apply it to all dogs. They don't even grasp that there are other kinds of natural dog lives.
Agreed. He’s obviously done a lot of research and put a lot of thought into the breed, as well as his own needs for having the birds protected. Toby is obviously well cared for, healthy, and well loved. He’s obviously not in any kind of distress, and he’s very attentive to his flock. Some people don’t seem to realize different breeds of dogs are “made for” different lifestyles, just like it wouldn’t work out well to force a bohemian San Francisco artist into a job on Wall Street just because he can count.
people are idiots nothing new
We had a Great Pyrenees family dog. He REFUSED to come inside a lot of the times. Outside was his home, and my mom was always worried others would be mad at her, especially in the winter. It's hard to explain some dogs are built to be fine outside on their own.
Great pyranees were bred to be totally independent yet protect their sheep from wolves. I always laughed when people would say an off leash great pyranees is called a disapyr. I don't doubt it's true.
I have a 5 month old Great Pyrenees I'm learning a lot lol...
@@krookeddreamz09 They are such characters! Congrats :)
@@deed5811 "Disapyr"... clever! 😆
I have a Great Pyrenees. He would live outside if I let him. He lays in snow and I have to drag him in the house during the winter. Toby is happy and healthy and you can tell he's so proud of his job on the farm!
We had a Pyrenees who lived outside in his comfy house filled with straw. He did not like being indoors. He would come in to say hello and then want back outside. He guarded our home and children and it was comforting to hear his woof woof in the night as he patrolled our acreage. Loved the snow too. He would lay until completely covered with snow and then jump up in like a snow bomb. I loved our Andy.
Great Pyrenees have 3 coats of fur to keep them warm outside!
Oh I wish I could’ve seen the snow bomb! Lol that’s adorable 😊
I loved this video, especially because we have a farm dog that protects our birds. Unfortunately, our neighbor think that we are cruel for keeping Sheru outside, but in reality he has work to keep him busy, many friends, and lots of land to roam on. They keep calling animal control and now I know all the officers by name (they come and say everything looks great). Having a dog inside your house doesn't necessarily mean you're taking care of them. My dog's vet says Sheru is really healthy and bigger than how he should be for his age. He is an Anatolian Shepherd. Thank you for this video!
You would think with animal control never doing anything, they’d back off. If I may ask, how big is your dog?
@@gabriellawhite7225 huge huge haha! When standing on his hind legs, he is over 5 ft tall. He is growing further. 😊
@@windowsdoublexp The dog’s taller than my grandma😂
@@gabriellawhite7225 hahaha that comment cracked me up
I heard that dogs like to have "jobs" because it makes them feel useful and a part of the pack. It can be anything really, from herding sheep, to something simple like getting the newspaper.
*Toby literally just laying down like a goober*
Morgan: “What you’re seeing here are Toby’s highly acute livestock guardian dog instincts kicking in.”
He's a multitasker
If you've never seen it, it's hard to believe - but an LGD at work is normally asleep - especially during the day. Then the nostrils flare, an ear cocks up a little, and suddenly there's 100# of fluff and fury charging to the fence. I've heard the grass ripping as our Great Pyrenees launches from lying on her side to a full run.
Like my Saint Bernard. She lets every animal walk all over her and when it’s cold she just wants to lay outside and sniff the air. She has no interest in other dogs, doesn’t run away, etc. she protected and nurtured our cats kittens more than the mother cat.
I mean, if you had the ability to be fully aware and totally relaxed at the same time wouldn't you do it?
Lol 😂 so true
I fully understand that when it comes to people, the most ignorant are often the first (and loudest) to express their opinions... However, It's still hard for me to imagine you getting hate mail for having a working/outside dog.
He doesn't like anything he doesn't know... we've seen that in several vids (especially if he ever leaves the farm... ooh boy is he anxious). If the dog is happy, healthy, and loved then what's the problem?
It is hard to imagine, IF it is true.
I think forget that haters don't care about logic
Remember, half of the population is below median intelligence.
There are people who are pet/animal crazy who never leave their mental bubble. I worked with a girl who was obsessed with animal rescue and loves animals (which is fantastic), but couldn't grasp that my guide dog is a working dog. I really think that in her mind, dogs were all like human babies and children. She drove me absolutely nuts with her comments about my guide dog, and I repeatedly had to tell her not to pet her and distract her. I don't have 100% vision loss, but my depth perception and peripheral vision is really bad. So I need my guide dog to be my eyes when I am walking, and she absolutely thought that was just awful (a working dog). And no, she absolutely couldn't grasp logic or respect boundaries. It was ridiculous.
@@angelamarie4137 I couldn’t agree with you more . Your dog is definitely smarter and more educated than your coworker
My family had a Great Pyrenees to guard our chickens. I was her primary human, as I had held her and played with her a lot when she was a puppy. She would let a chicken peck her on the head without so much as a growl because she knew the chicken was weaker and more pea-brained than her. On the other hand, if someone "hurt" me (pretended to hurt me to see how she'd react) she would immediately growl at them; I was one of her pea-brained chickens that needed protecting, I suppose.
One day, she walked into the woods and never came back. She was getting old, and her health was fading. She never normally left the property, so I fully believe she knew she was going to die and wanted to do it privately. She was that kind of dog. She was gentle, introverted, and patient. She wanted a few pets here and there, and then she was happy and would go back to her chickens.
At one point, we got another dog that she didn't particularly like all the time; they would have little scuffles at points, but if I walked near them, she'd stop instantaneously and move away. I had to be at least eight feet away before she'd fight with him again.
Gosh, I think this is the first time I've cried about it. I think I just tried not to think about it. I really miss her. I used to call her my "baby puff" because she looked like a puffy little cloud and she was my baby.
Damn... That was a very emotional read. Reading your comment, I think you can take solace knowing that your baby puff lived a good, happy life surrounded by those who loved her - and pecked her 🥺
That dog is as happy as he'll ever be. Dogs love having things to do, and this guy has a job to do day in and day out. He's just living how dogs are meant to live.
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This!
It's the most punk rock thing on the internet don't confuse yourself..
@@DiscGolf_ 😂
@@kerrienash3010 love ya
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We had a Caucasian Shepherd for 12 years basically by accident and she was the most loyal beast one could have but God help you if you were a stranger. Sh definitely did a real good job guarding the house, even teaching the mutt to be her scout. I still miss her, even the horrifying amount of fluff she shed 🤣
Caucasian Shepherds are absolutely terrifying if they are mad. I only saw a puppy once of an colleague of my dad that visited us one time. Not much of them around where I live and the owners had to get it abroad to get one I think. Beautiful dogs though and great livestock guardians.
We had an Alabai(Central Asian Shepherd) and people often mistook it for a Caucasian since the breeds are somewhat similar. Absolutely agree on the "God help you if you're a stranger" part. Never have I met a smarter dog...and a louder one when it came time to chase someone off the property(ours was a working house guardian dog).
But also - holy hell did she enjoy finding the biggest puddle and lay around in it lol
That's like *the* worst dog to have by accident
We had a shepherd when I was growing up he protected all of us kids he wouldn’t let strangers near the house. He slept in the barn
Oh hey, we have such an accident at home too - a Karakachan. The dearest, bravest, cuddly guy you can imagine.
Unless someone or something puts him in "work mode" ... phew, you have to experience that.
If he could as he wanted, he would only come in to eat and otherwise lie in a cozy hollow in front of the house, keeping an eye on everything and regulating who is allowed to come to us and who is not.
I’ve never once felt Toby was being mistreated and looks very happy and content. I’m glad you took the time to explain
Same. I would honestly just ignore the nay sayers because they really don’t/can’t understand that a working dog is different from a family pet. You love them both, but they are not the same.
It's always weird to me how little many "animal lovers" actually bother to understand about the animals they claim to love. Pretending that dogs and other critters are just people in fur-suits isn't appreciating nature, it's completely ignoring everything that makes them so incredible.
This goes especially for dog people who don't understand how much domestication has changed dog breeds, and how specialized their instincts can be. You love dogs, but you don't understand how incredibly unique a guardian breed is and would insist on treating them exactly like a labrador retriever? That's not love, that's neglect.
A loooottttt of "dog people" think all behavior is the result of training/the environment/etc, and are strangely dismissive of behaviors being bred in.
They are more probably people who have never owned a pet in their life. They see an animal and think they should act like an human acts.
A lot of those people are the same people who go to work and leave their dog alone all day. Basically driving them slowly insane.
my dog was bred to be a foot warmer for Chinese emperors and models for French artists. he’s a fucking idiot but a lovable one.
Fucking chill.
Toby's definitely in charge! I can imagine when some approaches the front gate and asks "May I speak to your Manager?" Toby responds: "Yes, I'm Toby, Head of Security, I'm in charge here, how may I help you?!"
Toby meets a Karen 🤣
@@valwienhold I think toby would set her straight without too much hassle
The cookie was a good clip. The duty to guard over comes the food drive in Toby. That’s incredible, dog are easy to train because of the high food drive dogs have. You clearly demonstrated Toby drive to guard. Good video.
I was totally waiting for Pablo to walk in and for Toby to let him start eating the cookie first hahaha
@@Playguu I would actually suspect that Toby wouldn't eat it until Pablo started to eat it. You can see that behavior with Toby's food, and it almost seems like Toby uses Pablo as the tester for what is food to eat vs food to guard.
@@rydaler I saw this behavior with my dog and older cat. I think it isn't so much that the cat is made to test the food, but when a puppy starts to live with an adult cat, the puppy sees the cat as a leader/higher up. Even when the puppy grows to an adult it, may still consider the tiny cat as a leader that gets to choose the best parts from the food.
I have a working line German shepherd and that are almost not even the same breed as a show line.
This is why we still need responsible breeders. It’s great to rescue for a family pet, but there are still people out there who need dogs that work and genetics matter.
As someone who interacts with all three types of dogs, I can appreciate the distinctions. My friends have working dogs that are beloved and well cared for. But they do not live inside. They are given food/water/shelter. But otherwise they are expected to defend the home (barking), hunt rodents, and be companions with the farm work. I myself have a 7 pound poodle who is not large enough to be working dog because of coyotes and roaming dog packs. So she is a companion dog, sleeps in my bed, and is my constant companion in my office job. I grew up with only companion dogs, so it took a while for me to understand how working dogs are still well cared for despite not having “inside privileges”
I like the way you understand Toby. He needs to be who he is rather than who people think a dog should be. You explained so well why breeds of dog are different as well! Thank you!
Toby is a guard dog not a pet lay in your bed dog you treat him just fine
To adapt a quote of Terry Pratchett...
"It's what a dog be"
Your chat on these dogs really does require a greater distribution. Here in Australia the breed most commonly surrendered to the pound is a Maremma. As you have justly stated this is not a house pet. Thank you for spreading the word and yes they are such a loving breed.
Can I ask the source of that statistic? It might just be that my information is old (it must be about a decade since I heard it) but I remember Maltese Terriers being cited as the most commonly surrendered/dumped dog because people see a cute little ball of fluff and expect a lap dog but Maltese Terriers don't actually have a good temperament for that. Plus being a small dog the supply of terriers is more abundant so they aren't a terribly expensive pure breed (dodgy backyard breeders can keep many terrier sized mothers in a suburban backyard, Maremmas would need more space so more investment on the breeder's part translates into higher prices).
@@ElizabethJones-pv3sj since Oddball hit the big screen it has seen many a puppy farm spring up for Maremma puppies. I am relying on facts from the wife as she is greatly involved in Maremmas , if she had her way we would be swamped. You may be correct with your Maltese Terriers, I should have fact checked.
If the dog "came into fashion" and people bought them as pets - you bet there were unprincipled breeders that bred for looks and lots of puppies. Working dogs are bred for intelligence and health, and it is a small scene of reputable breeders and people that need to dog to perform, so that keeps things straight. - Whenever a breed becomes fashionable (often because of movies) it ends with inbreeding, and sick or neurotic animals. Add to that that the dogs still has the high need to "guard" something, anything.
Working dogs are intelligent, so if that was not lost the handsome dog will be bored to death, unless the family can offer a lot of stimulation. And if intelligence is lost in such a breed they tend to go on the dark side, not loveable stupid but destructive & stupid.
Such the cute puppy (probably spoiled by inexperienced owners) grows into a handsome nuisance - and then they are surrendered. Same with Pitbulls that for some reason are quite popular in the U.S.
@@xyzsame4081 agree greatly with you on nearly everything. My thoughts on the breed are that they don’t belong in a city environment. The breed should have animals to care for. There will be exceptions but largely a caters life. I gather you may be a breeder and I would assume by your comments a Maremma breeder, my comments are probably not directed to you but the unscrupulous individuals cashing in.
They are some of the best farm dogs available but if you want a house pet they are not the dog for you. If a working dog doesn't have a job they can be a problem because they are bored. Every type of working dog was bred for a specific purpose and they need to have a job suitable for the breed you select.
I spent some time with a friend who had a house out in the WV mountains. He has a Great Pyrenees and that DNA was strong. Everything needed to be going like it should or he was not a happy camper. He even would growl if you were loud after dark, I suppose to keep you/livestock safe from predators at night.
coming from some one that works in vet med you have 4 types of owners
1. the neglectful owner, who thinks of their dogs as more of a object than a living breathing creature
2. the owner who's life revolves around their dog
3. grey hound people
4. live stock guardian dog people 😅
Greyhound people😂
Please explain the greyhound people I’m so curious 😂 I’m definitely a 2 tho lol
I just got a greyhound and I started reading this list wondering which one I would be and well I've definitely been called out ahahah
okay. idk where shes from but im a REAL LICENSED VET MED and only 2 of those exist.
shes making anything up for youtube likes. this is hilarious 💀💀💀💀
literally i work with 30+ people stretched across only just my facility and i promise u NOONE ever used or heard these made up terms lol.
Toby's breeder must be so happy to be able to watch one of their dogs doing what he exists to do, instead of being made into a house dog
3:00 Toby IS working. He’s watching. That’s what a watch dog does.
He’s waiting impatiently for his breakfast 🤣 He is adorbz 🖤🖤🖤
There is a channel with a Great Pyrenese. They are so often making fun of their "lazy" dog. Even giving him things to do that their Golden will excell at (high energy, engaging "house" pet) and they figure, in advance, the Pyrenees will "fail". They are also keeping the GP in sunny, hot Florida. I'll let you draw your own conclusions about these owners.
"Release the quackers!" is now my favourite phrase ever - thank you so much ((also toby is adorable and doing an amazing job at guarding))
I thought he was saying "Release the Quacken!" (Release the Kraken!)
@@jamiewulfyr4607 you are right. It is quacken
@@jamiewulfyr4607 he is
i love how there is the difference between a working dog and a house dog, but with cats its just cats. They will hunt pests whether you want them to or not. That is what brought them closer to humans and they haven't changed since.
Thats because dogs are actually domesticated. Cats just wondered into our camps or villages one day and decided its easier to get fed than to hunt yourself.
@@kevinsaviro2708 but that's literally how we domesticated dogs too lol
@@coreyblitz2000 yes thats how it started, but we learned to train dogs, make them work for us and hunt for us. Cats on the other hand do whatever they wanna do. They dont even fetch a stick for you, they dont learn tricks, hell if they dont want you to pet them, they refuse to let that happen. I guess what im trying to say, domesticated animals serve humans, but cats they dont seve us. Domesticated means we control them, we made them tame, but you can not control a cat. They still got their wild side in them. A cat is only a nice pet if it loves you, but if it doesn’t like you, its just like having a raccoon in your house.
That's hilarious that Toby protects the treat. My pyrenees x anatolian mix does this too and just adores fighting off the other 2 dogs but he won't eat it! I never thought of it as protecting I thought he enjoyed torturing his friends. That's a much more positive way of looking at it...
I have an Anatolian for my goats 🥰
"I thought he enjoyed torturing his friends."
Hahhahaha
My working line shepherd, and a friend's not-closely-related working line shepherd, will ABSOLUTELY use toys to lure or taunt other dogs.
When the two are playing together, they'll often only have one tennis ball even though more are available. The one with the ball with drop it on the other dog, then snatch it back quickly, etc.
Don’t test whether you’re allergic to a food when you’re by yourself. It’s possible you could go into shock and have a fatal blood pressure drop.
I hope this comment gets a lot more likes so Morgan can see this
There are more sane and safe ways to test for allergies. Like getting poked with an allergy stick, and seeing how big of a welt you get.
Go see a doctor for an appointment, and ask if they can test you for goose egg allergy. Or at the very least, try a tiny amount and not the whole egg first.
@@acedepth In an earlier video, he ate some duck eggs to see whether he was allergic or not. I wanted to warn him before he tried it with the goose egg in today’s video.
I have one of the weird food allergies: oranges.
I'm violently allergic to FRESH oranges (frozen or cooked, no problem).
Even the smell can start me into anaphylactic shock, although it will ease off if I leave the area immediately.
I'm retired school librarian, and when I transferred schools I'd tell the teachers at lunch time whom I ate with. Not to make them stop having oranges for lunch, but I'm not being rude if I abruptly get up and leave. Go ahead and have your oranges.
When children have food allergies we all have to help, but adults with food allergies can be responsible for themselves.
*You're right to warn him.* Twice I almost died. I've learned to call emergency if my symptoms don't ease off within a minute.
Oh, and "epi" pens, adrenalin, are just to keep the heart going a little longer so a person can get help. It does not stop the allergy attack.
Yess! I'm severely allergic to nuts and I accidentally ate cashews (it was in a curry) and I thought I was just very tired after puking my guts out and dealing with the closed throat issue. My doctor was very mad at me and told me I could have died and my blood pressure dropped dangerously. I didn't have insurance and couldn't afford to miss work the next day or to to the ER, so I just took benedryl and went to sleep :/
I recently had the pleasure of meeting two beautiful Maremmas who work an alpaca farm in Arizona. They are lovely animals and were very friendly, although I don't know what their reaction would be if I had not been with the owner.
They stay with the alpacas 24/7, as wildcats are a real problem. The alpacas often scent the predator first, but the dogs quickly pick up on the alpacas alarm.
Interestingly, one of them has a strong herding instinct. The owner said the smaller one would let the alpacas wander right out the gate, but the larger one makes sure they all stay put. They've had a couple of escapees in the past, and this dog herded up the stray and then sat in the open gate and would not leave until a human closed the gate properly.
In fact, while I was visiting, one if the alpacas wandered over to the gate (which was closed), and this dog immediately left off being petted and went straight to the gate and watched until the alpaca walked away from the gate.
Toby is a freakin' specialist! I love him! That was neat how he intervened between Molly & the birds: their standoff was immediately ameliorated!
When I think about working dogs, these days, I think about all the ACDs (Heelers) we lost to Austrailia's fires because their owners just could not get them to leave their flocks. Working dogs take their jobs very seriously. They have to, in order to do what we need them to do, and so we've bred them that way. Are there a certain number of any given working dog breed that aren't up for doing the job of that breed? Sure! But they're typically fixed and kept from the genetic pool. Small farms like yours, or my parent's, depend on it. My dad got himself a wonderful ACD, who herds my parents around, and keeps my dad safe from predators when he's out walking amongst his trees. He needs the companion when he's 30 acres from home, where Bob, Yogi, and Wiley hang out.
That’s so sad! I’ve only heard story’s about the wild animals lost in the ABF of 2020!
@@jessicaoppegard6578 A lot of farmers lost their flocks, and their dogs would not leave them, so they were lost as well. Working dogs to the very end.
@@Evaleastaristev That’s so sad 😭
OMG, my sympathies to the owners. I knew about the sheep, it just never extended to realize the dogs were almost certainly killed too.
So sorry.
Australian collies are beautiful, and so incredibly smart.
I’m so sorry for all the animals lost in the ABF of 2020 💔 Such a terrible time! I cannot imagine what farmers felt, to lose everything is tremendous 💔 Bless you Australia 🖤
Toby is so calm and patient. People who criticize don’t understand at all. They shouldn’t criticize when they don’t have knowledge
Yes! I have two working Great Pyrenees and everything you said is spot on. It cracks me up when we give them a treat and you can tell their immediate thought is “I need to keep this safe!” 🤣 I start my pups inside and then gradually move them outside, and once they’re out there’s no way I could get them to come back in for more than a few minutes. They’re too focused on their job!
We got our Maremma as a pet lol, we expected him to be on edge around visitors but he ended up being the friendliest of any dog I’ve ever known. What’s really interesting is he is perfectly fine with other people, but if a stray cat comes into our yard he goes right after them.
Otherwise he comes into the house and leaves as he pleases, lays around on top of our hot tub for a nice vantage point, sleeps looks around
And yes Maremmas in a house shed a lot during summer lol! The only saving grace is that his fur is very long and very visible
It always makes me smile seeing how Morgan and Toby interact, such amazing work training such a cute fluffy boy
Not that you need approval from any of us for what you do on your farm, but as far as I am concerned Toby is living his best doggy life. He's got his job as protector and he's got his little house to retreat to when he may want it. And he gets spoiled by the internet.
Love your channel. I have owned many dogs for 70 years. But the most interesting dog that I had , which to me was sort of a working dog, was a Jack Russell. She was a rescue and was surrendered by her owner. She was probably two years old. I had heard that they are NOT apartment dogs. I live in a wooded area in a neighborhood. I had a fence that was fortified for small dogs. She was only 8 lbs. She had a deformed head and some other physical quirks. But she was my buddy. I knew she needed her space and territory to hunt for critters. My backyard was perfect. I had a dog door and she could come and go as she pleased. If she were a human she would have been a lifer in the military, would not drink or smoke, and she would carry an M-16 at all times. She was on her own military schedule for wake up and feeding times. If she had a trumpet she would have played the wake up reveille around 5 am. Catching critters was her job that came naturally. And nothing could get in her way. I respected that. If we were soldiers together, I would trust her to have my back. She was not a friendly dog but she trusted me. So it was an experience that I cherish. I'm retired now and I retired from dog ownership. But I'm really grateful that Sergeant Penny was in my life.
Toby guarding and showing off his cookie at the end is so damn adorable . He’s just enjoying having it
Toby seems to be a happy, well-adjusted working dog.
Toby guarding his cookie. How adorable!
Toby knows his job and he seems to enjoy it! Love the little duck steps on the end of the ramp by the way, hopefully they get more used to it with time.
In my experience as a delivery driver, I've encountered 2 1/2 kinds of dogs.
The first kind are the ones that will bark at strangers forever. They either stand their ground and only get closer if you do, or come after you. If the owner is not around, they will not be calm until you leave. Do not approach this kind of dog. If they're barking, you better hope the owner can come get them under control.
The other kind of dog is the friendly kind. They are happy to see you, doesn't matter that you are a stranger in their territory. They want to be pet forever.
There is also a combination of the two where the dog is cautious to newcomers, but will warm up to them very quickly. Sometimes these will bark as you approach, but if you let them approach you they will stop barking. You can usually let them sniff you a bit, and they'll either get really friendly or at least tolerant.
Barking stray dogs scare the heck out of us. They bite and terrorize the neighborhood
My Aussie will bark and bark till one of her humans gets her to understand .”This is a okay human to let your guard down with.”
Hey Morgan, thanks for posting regular farm videos! I grew up in the city so I often fantasise about a simple farm life but I know I will probably not like it as much as I think I will. It's probably a "grass is greener on the other side" kind of situation so I find myself living the farm life vicariously through you!
This is so true
yeah its fun to imagine and fantasize about it. that's why i love watching his channel and he is a great story teller/narrator.
You always want to experience something different than your current life/situation. but it's a big transition/investment/commitment and it is one of those grass is greener on the other side deal.
Maybe search for a farm in your neighborhood on which you can make your holidays? Some farm rent out some rooms and allow their guests to help on their farm.
This was a very good explanation of the difference between a simple pet dog and a working dog.
I'm a big city boy, but after watching Gold Shaw Farm for the past year really makes me want to retreat to one too
Toby and that cookie, lol. He's like, "Hey, look! I have this thing that is JUST FOR ME! Not for chickens, not for ducks, and certainly not for judgemental geese (not that the geese would eat it), but it's all mine, and I'm going to sit here and show it off until I feel that everyone has seen it, and only then will I consider eating it. But I'm darn sure gonna show it off first!
Do the animals recognize Toby’s barking as a danger alert? Do they naturally move up to be closer to him or do they disregard him unless he drives them closer?
I'd love to know if they do respond to his barking that way.
If you watch the video when Morgan start talking about Toby barking when he was having his Hay bails delivered and he was moving them with his Tractor Toby barking thinking danger his birds flocked right up closer to Toby so I’m sure the Birds recognize Toby instincts when he think the farm in danger!
@@l.b.walker7516 That’s why I asked, because in that clip Morgan said Toby was driving them closer to be near him not that they moved up themselves, unless I misheard him. It’d be awesome if the birds naturally moved up to be closer to protection but if they don’t recognize his bark as a danger warning then they wouldn’t.
Im sure they hear tobys barking it scares them and they move away from the barking/ towards their homes.
the amazing thing about dogs is how diverse they are, both physically and mentally.
my dogs sleep in my bed every night and I’d never keep them in the backyard overnight even once. Toby is clearly not that type of dog lol. he seems content and cared for and that’s what’s important!
Love this! Beautiful dog with a great life. Here in NZ I had a hunterway who would only come in the house for short periods. He much prefered to be outside. When it rained he wanted to be tucked up outside in his kennel.And he loved his job.
Toby with his cookie reminds me of my family dog. She'd never lived indoors with a family before us, so if we accidentally dropped food on the ground, she didn't understand that it was edible. She'd pick it up and carry it around, so proud that we'd given her a present!
I could watch a video about Toby and his adventures twice a week without ever tiring.
Yes, we need a Toby Dog subchannel.
We have a farm dog that lives without a pen or a collar. She just knows our property lines! She works to heard and bring our cows into the barn.
She must be awesome.
Thats one smart doggo!
Farm dogs are amazing. When I worked in a rural vet clinic people knew their guardian dogs were sick based on if they wanted to be with the flock or keep sleeping in the barn.
I love how well you take care Toby. He’s a part of the family that has his own space in the farm. You changed my mind on how a dog can have a home outside the house as long as it’s it’s proper place. Thank you for doing such an amazing job at explaining and sharing the amazing life of an outdoor working dog like Toby!!!
Many breeds of dogs *can* be very happy living outside. Toby is a great example…in that climate. The issue is that many people who leave their dog outside most or all of the time don’t consider if that breed is appropriate for the climate, don’t provide a large enough space, fail to provide proper shelter/bedding and the worst are those who leave dogs on chains/runners 24/7/365. If you are just going to keep a dog tied up & have very little interaction with it…then just don’t get one! Same for putting one in a small fenced in area separate from the yard & house.
I wish all dogs were treated as well as Toby is!
In the UK (Wales especially) there's a legend about a working dog called "Gelert" it's both sad and fantastic.
The little smile on Toby's face while he is guarding his cookie 👌💖
I'm one that feels really sorry for short haired dogs that have to stay outside all winter long but it's obvious that Toby is built to stay outside. He'd probably be miserable if he went inside.
You made the perfect decision when you got Toby for the farm. I really do love him❣️
Some short haired dogs also have that double waterproof coat. Our Aussie/Heeler mix is totally waterproof but has a short coat, just a little fluffier around the neck. He also sheds a LOT...twice a year my donkey 🐴 😆
And he absolutely loves cold weather and snow. Our Scottish Terrier, even with a summer groom appropriate for Texas, refuses to come in if there's snow on the ground.
Dogs are amazing creatures. And I'd have a dozen if I could 😆
I can tell Toby Dog is happy because he's almost always smiling. I love his smile.
There was a great Piranesi that wondered into out neighborhood when I was a kid, great friendly dog. No idea who his owner was, but we were pretty sure he had one. He'd go around and visit everyone, we even let him in the house when it got cold. He wouldn't do it often, he preferred to stay outside and bark at the coyotes. Such a booming bark too.
Agree wholeheartedly! I’m a huge animal lover but LGD are a completely different dog than a house dog. So many people buy them to be pets because they are so sweet and fluffy but they become hard to handle and end up in rescue groups or the pound because they weren’t given a job and became destructive. People have to look at them like livestock. While some may break the mold and be able to be trained to be inside and good companions, most prefer to be outside and working.
They do have a very different temperament.
Yes. SO much yes to this. Some CAN be trained as housepets, but it's a challenge to everyone, not to be engaged in lightly. My wife and I are huge dog lovers so we had some warning but it took all of our patience!
So I'm from Australia and I burst out laughing to hear you say "chewk". Thank you that made my night. But just so you know (not in anyway condescending) it's chook, like book.
But you're so right, I never really understood that working dogs needed to work, and then I had a housemate who had an AUS blue heeler (similar to an AUS Shepard) and she was never put to work or walked or anything, just locked outside all day and she had such bad behavioural problems and got extremely bad separation anxiety and was so destructive. One day the dog jumped through a window and completely broke the flyscreen, and for months that was then her favourite thing to do repeatedly. My housemate would give her food 'puzzles' to solve on the rare occasion and she would finish them in about 2 minutes, and then proceed to bark all day in a suburban environment. It was awful to watch but if I tried to delicately say anything it was very quickly made clear to me that it was not my place to say anything.
My Dad lived near a man who had a collie who barked all day and all night (Dad said). It was always barking when I visited.
Also said it was the only time he'd even had it cross his mind to poison a dog. (He DID NOT by the way.)
Your housemate's neglect of your dog may drive one of her neighbors to something ghastly. For dogs with those deeply inbred herding genes, its tantamount to animal abuse.
@@veramae4098 Tbh, it crossed my mind once as I often work nights and there was one week where I had barely slept because I'd have to get up every 15 mins to tell it to be quiet. When I first moved in she told me a story about how her old neighbours were awful and always complained about her dog and how her dog didn't do anything and she used to get worried they would do something. When she told me i was outraged, but after living with her for 6 months I understood. It just got really sad.
When a child or an animal is being mistreated, it is always our place to say something.
I m only on a acre, with 7 hens 1 rooster 1 duck and a pair of geese, plus crows, they all have a life that is so different , Just spend time watching them all and its so wonderful so much goes on in the yard
at 17:34 I have a few funny stories about our 2 maremmas. They are sisters, and we purchased them to be our guardians at our bear-infested gold claim in the wilderness of BC. We quickly observed that one or the other would disappear into the bush, then come back with a fir/pine needle gently resting between her lips. She would gently place it on the ground (which was made up of thousands of other fir/pine needles!!) then lay down with the fir needle between her front legs (just like Toby did with the biscuit). Her sister would get apoplexic with envy over her sister's prized possession, and do everything she could to take hold of it. We played tricks on them by luring the 'fir needle protector' away, allowing the other to swoop in and delicately take ownership of said fir needle. This game would go back and forth for hours. Eventually, the dispossessed sister would learn that the best thing to do would be to trot off and find a new object of desire. Some of the small and totally insignificant objects of desire they brought back to covet had us in stitches!
Toby dogs coloring is also meant to help the dog to blend within the sheep not stand out to predators instantly. You don’t see a lot of border collies that have a lot of white…. So they are easily visible among sheep. Hounds are more difficult to control as their nose over powers any other sense when it comes to getting their attention making training a hound challenging based on what I have observed in training classes. It’s hard to get their nose off the floor some won’t be quiet easily as that is also part of their job. It is hard to teach them balance instinct and obedience. Border collies have strong instincts but that includes instinct to work WITH humans. Hounds used for their job….. work differently really don’t need or want directions. So when the hunters say they can’t control their dog it is true in a sense. I am not sure they can be whistled or told that el do. Radio collars are involved for that reason.
Really agreed
We have a beagle (his name is Bagel) and yes, they are very hard to train. Since they’re very food motivated, they can be trained with the best smelling treats and patience, but learns best not around other dogs and other owners with treats.
Hounds can be difficult to train, but training them IS the most important part when it comes to hunting with dogs :
Yes, the dog is bred to do it's job, but it's important for his own safety, as well as that of other people and pets, that the hunter got control over the dog, as these dogs can be so overwhelmed by their own instincts that they might attack things they're not supposed to or put themselves into big danger (like trying to bite a bear for example)
If you want to hunt with dogs, it's part of the sport to train them properly, it's not just one without the other
My Dad would never use a hound dog that didn’t listen! What good is dog like that to a true hunter? Them people don’t want to control their dogs! That’s what’s wrong with them!
I've never met a hunting dog that can't be called off. If you don't train it, you're just a lazy hunter
Human: Here's a snack for you Toby!
Toby: Omg my human gave me a present. I must cherish it.
I have followed this channel for about a year or so and I have to say you are doing a wonderful job and I love to see this farm grow over the years into a glorious pasture with lots of fowl and a excellent guard in Toby. I really like how you calmly explain the reasons for why you do what you do, it helps raise awareness and gives people a look into the farm life.
I have 2 working dogs in training. One 16 week old Anatolian Shepard, and one 7 month old Anatolian/Great Pyrenees. 50/50.. both are going to be duck guards. Riley, keys in on buzzards and hawks on the farm. When she sees one she barks her head off. Rex, her boy toy, shadows her all around
Toby guarding his cookie is the sweetest thing I've seen today. Thank you for another informative video, Morgan. :)
I like seeing some one use a working dog breed for what is for. It makes for so much more stable and happier dog and you treat him right, no chain, no malice, just love. A friend had the same breed as Toby, kept indoor, well the routine for the dog was changed and it got bored and chewed through the door... it took her 6 hours to get a hole big enough for her and then she was gone. What did she do? Well she ran of to the outdoor day care to herd the kids and keep them safe. Before said dog was adopted away it had chewed up a chair, 2 doors and 12 books and dug a hole in the master bed. She needed to have a job, something to do and she ended her life guarding cows at out door museum. People can be mean to animals.
I don't know what you did in your past life (career) but you are master of de-escalating conflict. I learn a lot
We had border collies when I was growing up, and we nearly always kept them outside except for in the winter. And even then, they still needed to go outside as much as they could during the day (sometimes it was just too cold and they needed to be kept indoors, but they sure didn't like it). The border collies were amazing at keeping predatory animals out of the yard, but were unfortunately too smart to be bothered with deer and my mum lost a lot of vegetables haha. Working dogs are amazing animals, and definitely need to be treated to their individual temperaments and instincts. A working dog, as much as you love them, will never be suited to be a house pet
Toby seems very happy and fond of you, his master. Abused animals don’t behave that way. Breeding is a science.
Love your videos and your constant questioning of your knowledge and opinions. Makes it very interesting and educative. Thank you!!!
"Release the Quaken" has got to be the best line i have heard on the internet in a long time. So awesome!
Your animals always look very loved and cared for. Thanks for explaining working dogs, I learned a lot.
Toby captivated my cat again. He loves watching your animals, especially Toby and the barn cats.
Your videos show me the level of thought and care you put into every animal on your farm. I've watched you agonize over the smallest decision, constantly researching and trying new ideas for their comfort and well being. I'm really not understanding how anyone could think Toby Dog is mistreated.
That was cute, him guarding his cookie at the end. My brother had a dog from the shelter that looked almost identical to Toby right down to the color and coat, and he LOVED being outside, preferring to sleep on the porch most of the time or to 'guard' the house and kids.
I got a LGD before I was able to move to land to farm he spent 5 years living indoor family dog lifestyle and hated it. Got into so much trouble broke out of windows to chill on the roof to watch the neighbors. Would literally refuse to come inside on numerous occasions. Refused to even poop in the yard sometimes. Now understand I raised him from a puppy he has never been on a farm or homestead other then when I took him to my aunts to take care of the horses and chickens. We got a little bit of land and now the dog is literally outside all of the time. Just relaxing with the cats (as we haven't gotten livestock yet). I'm sure he'll love them too when we do get them though.
We only had collies in my family on the 40 acres and like Toby they wanted to take care of us, any animals and their boundaries. They were not happy to be sheltered inside without a door they could control so the dog house was their preferred shelter. And like Toby the farm cats were their best friend. "Pets" were what city folks had, we had purposeful working animals and many a time those collies protected us kids, too.
My brother's family has a maremma and she's the sweetest, silliest, dog I've ever met and you can tell she loves their kids with her whole heckin heart. Definitely always on watch while the boys are out playing.
Sending you love and support. I grew up in rural Pennsylvania and understand working dog breeds. 🥰🥰🥰 love to you and your lovely wife. You take very good care of Toby because you both love and under the breed. ❤️
What a wonderful channel.
I love your honest and intelligent approach to dog behavior and breed comprehension.
All these critters so well cared for made me smile.
I actually have been doing Agility with my Australian Shepherd for 3-4 years, and his name is Toby as well! 😂 Then we have my Border Collie, Scout. Who is getting started in Agility and Sheep Herding, and he definitely has a drive for herding.
Because no one has a Maremma, at least 99.9% of dog owners don't. Absolutely love your edits lately. It's almost as if you have an editor...
I think anyone who understands working dogs knows you're doing an amazong job, just as anyone who looks at him can ses how content and happy he is. If I did have one criticism though it's that you're talking about him going to the groomers every 6 months. Honestly if you can swing it, I think he deserves the reward of those pamper sessions once every 2-3 months.
We’re getting our maremma puppy in a week, can’t wait! I have 4 kids, and we’re moving to a small acreage in the spring. She’s going to be more of a farm dog, and will help guard my kids. We often have bears, cougars, coyotes and badgers come onto the property so it’ll be helpful to have our maremma. If we weren’t moving to an acreage though-we wouldn’t be getting this breed.
Love the mods to the ramp, happy to see them all using it. Also curious to see Carmen?, without her kids, but I do imagine she is tired of them :D. Keep 'er Goin' Morgan!
Carmen and her kids living with the ducks sounds amusing xDDD. After the geese from the Parks and Recs crew, the duck house now gets to house chickens too XD
18:42 "I have a cookie. It is mine. I will protect it."
Mixing grated coconut with the chickens' dry food really helps with fattening and makes the colour of the yolk bright yellow. We also feed them Widow's Tears grass aka Commelina
Morgan, you have a success with that beautiful Toby Dog! He’s happy, healthy and working hard. I hope you soon get him another set of paws to help him, though he’s doing such a great job by himself. He’s so happy that he forgets to be jealous of your attentions to the other animals on the farm. But when you get your cattle he’ll appreciate another maremma to take up the work. Though cattle are pretty defensive. But a known doggo they will appreciate. You’re doing a wonderful job keeping that madding, quacking crowd happy and doing their thing! Peace and Blessings!
Sir, I agree with your analysis and it was nice of you to sum this up so precisely. I think it was a good compliment to Morgan.
Morgan wants to bring a female in for Toby. I think that would be such a major distraction for any male and might cause him to not do his job so well. And the female would be distracted by being bothered and also not in the position to learn her job properly.
Morgan and you don't think having a young female dog would be a distraction for Toby? I think it would prevent her from being trained properly as he would be bothering her and he would have his interest on other things. I don't think it's a good mix on a working farm.
@@slidenapps Most working farms with LGDs have them work in pairs - but they keep them on tether and watch them carefully so that the adult dog teaches good habits, and the pup doesn't learn bad things like chasing geese or spending more time playing with the adult dog instead of learning to guard. It works, but it requires the owner to be a good trainer and manage the pup as well
I can imagine Mr. Toby dog acting in the house like he does the car, just not very comfortable and nervous he might not be there for the birds. And you have to think "how would I feel wearing a winter coat inside?" You'd be hot inside and cold outside, and Toby doesn't have the option to take his coat off. It's way I make my house dogs take their sweaters off when we come inside.
I enjoyed this and learned a lot. I love how happy all your animals are.
Our livestock guardian dog looses her mind when anything is put of place 😂 we've had rams in the wrong pasture and she'll absolutely let us know ❤️
Man, can just imagine how mad some people would be about my dad's Akita/GSD cross. She never comes inside and, if she does, it's to sniff around and then she wants right back out. When a guard dog can't access their space and yard it is more stressful than anything. I swear, -35 c and she doesn't even feel the cold. She has a dog house that is stuffed with old clothes, straw and has square bales stacked around it. It is quite cozy but it is almost too hot for her most winter days. Really only uses it on windy nights otherwise she just lays on the porch.
Good morning Morgan and Toby 🥰. Beautiful and busy day at the farm. Seeing Toby and the kitties made my day 😄 Thank you.Stay safe and healthy.Stay BLESSED 🙏 .❤️❤️✌️
My first time here for a while and thank you for your interesting chat about dogs & working dogs especially. Very enjoyable & educational!
i work with sleddogs, totaly agree with you. people just dont understand until they experience it i guess. really cool to see hw he is as a guard dog, never experienced these kind of working dogs before. thank you
I started watching this channel yesterday and now I'm hooked! ❤🐶👍🏻
Same here.
Your explanation of a working dog was wonderful and very informative. Thank you!
Unfortunately we do have a working dog; a husky, who is housebound in suburban Detroit, Michigan.
He is absolutely bored; he absolutely loves the snow and winter.
Because of covid we were unable to walk him every day; now the main dog walker has cancer, so this summer he did not get to walk either.
His brother is a Belgian shepherd has the same problem. He is a working breed, who wants to protect, keep safe the feral cats, whom for the last 18 years we have fed, sheltered and watered, they kept down the rats population in our suburb, from leaving our three lot yard.
You are so right working dogs, unfortunately, should not be family pets as much as we love them, we know this; especially since all three are rescue dogs.
Our third dog is a hunting dog, a German shorthair, who at ten years is the family guard dog.
What is wonderful about dogs, is that do they do adapt to the situation they are in, to the people who love them and they love.
What a wonderful creature God created!
the way Toby gently opened his mouth for the cookie. ahhhh such a gentle giant, you can tell he loves and respects you so much.