How about the fact he wasn’t done after this? He was claimed by Bill Belichick’s Cleveland Browns for the final 4 games of the 1991 season and returned a few kickoffs.
@@jayvillane Belichick likes to try to refurbish players if he can. For Moss it certainly worked the first season, after that not as well. But overall he’s done pretty well with players who weren’t doing well with their previous team.
Sam Wyche was not a bad coach. He led the Bengals to the Super Bowl and the Bucs improved every year he coached there. Dungy benefitted from the groundwork Wyche laid in fixing the most pathetic team in NFL history.
Wyche was a really good Offensive minded coach. The team they had in 1988 that lost to the 49ers was a really good football team. I used to love Eddie Brown when he played for them, he was a great Hurricane!
Sam was a damn good OC but an average HC. In this era if a team had a winning season they played the tougher teams next season, likewise losing season means you had a softer next season. His Bengals were so predictable if they had a winning season I knew they would flop for next season. His year by year record proves this out. I've been a Bengals fan since '75.
Sam Wyche wasn't that bad of a coach. He took the Bengals to the Super Bowl and invented the Sugar Huddle offense that is so often utilized today. A huge part of his win/loss record being so poor, was because that was when Mike Brown was at his cheapest, and Wyche had little to no support in scouts or anything else.
I was sifting through a box of Football Cards the other day and happened to find 5 or 6 Score Football Rookie Cards of the aforementioned Lynn James, lol. Ahhh that glorious Junk Wax Era!
@@stevenbauer4799 ra g tag owner? U mean a humble old man that loves having dad's team more than anything on Earth? You mean the r ag tag owner who has been at every team meeting and practice for the past 40 years? The rag tag owner who doesn't take corporate money? The rag tag owner that's not some elitist prick?
@@onenationunderground2360you mean the rag tag owner that got tax $$$'s to build that stadium. took 30 + years to win a playoff game. and kept marvin way too long. get real...he aint his dad. and jerrah does the same thing. doen't make him a great owner. davis loves daddy's team too. doesn't make him a great owner as well. davis loves daddy's team too. and not too long ago brown was second to snyder in owners most hated by their fan base poll. so spare my the brown laa tee daa b s. i'm talking about his work as an owner. not about his personal attachments to team. at least he kept daddy's name on the stadium not selling out to some corporate schmuck for naming rights.
@@stevenbauer4799yeah, the tax payers voted (me included) and that's how PBS was built. Also, did u miss the part where the Bengals have spent over $300,000,000 in free agency over the last three season's? Which I believe s in the top 3. I agree Brown kept Marvin too long, but it is what it is, Brown is loyal to his players and family.
@@onenationunderground2360 once again i never questioned brown's loyalty as an owner. its his 30+ year record as owner that says he not a great owner. and when the nfl makes $40 billion per year and all of that tv $$$ that leaves a lot of $$$'s to spend in f agency. and he should spend now and not waste burrow.
This channel is amazing! I was born in 1986 and am a huge giants fan and I’ve learned so much with your content! Keep it up it’s really entertaining and I love how you constantly come up with the videos you do great job
Wyche had a habit of helping out troubled players. Do a story about that recovering drug addict that was on the team, after every game, win or loss, was at Sam Wyches house eating a bowl of Ice Cream because Wyche wanted to make sure he had something positive to do after a game because it was after games where emotions are high and can lead to going back to drug use. I like Sam Wyche.
The Bengals had some BAAAD coaches over the years. Sam Wyche was not one of them. He was innovative and was good at finding ways to get an edge with the talent on his roster. After Wyche was fired, there was no Bengals head coach anywhere near his league until Marvin Lewis arrived a decade later. And it would be a stretch to call Lewis better than Wyche. It's just that Marvin was so much better than Dave Shula, Bruce Coslet, and Dick LeBeau.
For a team with "iffy" results since Collingsworth played they've had some pretty good wide receivers. Not this guy of course, but they have had some good ones.
Dude could’ve worked extensively after hours with Collinsworth and Pickens, alongside their QB, to really step up his game…..but chose not to, so kept his mediocre skill set
A team with Chris Collinsworth as a top ten player all time, that’s a sad franchise.😅….Luckily for the bengals I don’t think he would even crack the top ten.
Sort of. The only difference is that Ms. Somers was a much more valuable member of the team, so she at least had some plausible reason to believe that tactic might work.
These players have to shoulder unbelievable guilt by family and hanger ons. Some of the folk they deal with want the same wealth the player has via that players bank account "or were not speaking". Simple to you and I. Cut em off. Not the same game for the uneducated.
This is a primary example of company\team culture. Our true values come to the surface during difficult times. A teams values are what is accepted and tolerated.
sam walsh was the greatest couch ever he actually stand up for hes players and city and most 90 bengals player at the time was there in 89 when the nfl let the 49s cheat to win the superbowl cause joe montana was corner and looked bad
Stupid receivers like Chris Henry? Constantly embarrassed the Bengals but then again he did get way too many concussions catching up in the air only to land on his head.
Carl Pickens had to be one of the biggest jerks in NFL history. They just had toxic players. Even Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmandzadeh refusing to block thinking it was beneath them. I'm thankful for the wide receivers the Bengals have now.
@@feck2594 Ya I would have to agree. A lot of disrespect for opponents and not a team player. I see Ja'Marr Chase blocking down the field and think if we only had that years ago.
I'm not sure why James thought that ditching his teammates like he did would make things better. He was lucky not to be fired a week before he was. I knew the '91 Bengals were inept (I didn't see it coming at the time), but I didn't know about the ineptitude of the decision making of one of their players.
The Bengals quick slide to ineptitude sadly coincides with owner Paul Brown passing away prior to the 91 season. Without his guidance to tell Mike "Hey, dont do THIS, don't draft THIS GUY, etc" the team went off the rails fast. For a while, Mike Brown and Jerry Jones and Jim Irsay were the only owners also acting as GMs. This isn't the best idea.
he took part in a 2017 sports illustrated golf tournament. But the story written about it, did not include him. "The after-party: Inside the life of the modern professional athlete in retirement" Guess got left on the editing floor. Aight, that was my 10minute effort lol.
@@MarloSoBalJr no he was young and in love. Just bc he had a absent mind moment that cost him his life, he all of a sudden completely absent minded period? Stop it 🛑 ✋️
Should James have been cut? Maybe. But Sam really did try to give players every opportunity. I think a hefty fine was enough punishment, plus he ended up being cut a week later. It's pretty likely the team was going to move on from him after this season anyways, and he wasn't much of a contributor. Sam has said the hardest thing he's ever had to do was tell Stanley Wilson he wasn't going to play in the Super Bowl after he relapsed and did drugs (cocaine iirc) in the hotel bathroom the night before the game. I'm sure it killed him, because he knew what Wilson was going through, but there's no way he could play in that game.
I would love booted him off the team the moment he showed back up. Want more playing time? Ya blew it! Far cry from another guy named Lynn who's a HOFer, namely Lynn Swann of the Noll Era Steelers.
Well it was crazy back then but that’s Just what they do these days. If they are mad about anything the dip out & clear all traces of team from insta and in the nba because of guarantee contracts the teams have no power. That’s why they do all these “super teams” where the players that should be battling one another deep in playoffs if not finals now they team up. SMH. The rings they win are hollow. Fake rings. Not the Warriors but KD’s is. Spurs are all real. Mavs have a real one, Milwaukee, & in 04 the pistons won a real ring against a lakers “super team x 2. Yea I think/hope the owners will demand that change in next collective bargaining. Never thought I’d be pulling for the owners in on of those things but the players are ruing the league. There is no elite competition facing each other like it should be in an elite league. Go Spurs Go Grizz!
He was probably the biggest bungler in the "Bungles" era. By the way, congrats on your great season. Far from being "Bungles"! Good luck in the upcoming season.
@@eldredcooke7054 "Find the team that's looking forward to playing us now." Here's your answer: every other team in the AFC. Being AFC champs, the Bengals have a target on their back now.
When he was describing Cris Collinsworth's tenure with the Bengals he started with, "Now here's a guy". Nice touch. Lol
Great vid!
Calling people stupid is excessive and all the way disrespectful. Absolutely say what they did is stupid. We can leave it there.
Lmao very well played with the Collinsworth “Here’s a guy” line! 😂😂😂 Snuck that in over lots of heads!
I caught that instantly. Lolol
Almost as stupid as being franchise tagged, and sitting out practice because you want more money.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made two videos about Carl Pickens and his 1998 season.
How about the fact he wasn’t done after this? He was claimed by Bill Belichick’s Cleveland Browns for the final 4 games of the 1991 season and returned a few kickoffs.
Yeah great accomplishment. What's your point?
Even then Bill knew how to use players for their limited ability.
@@RicoBurghFan just thought it interesting after all the drama Belichick took a chance on him.
@@84sp84 The same guy who took "Just Cash, Homie" Randy Moss?
I love Randy Moss but early in his career he was a problem.
@@jayvillane Belichick likes to try to refurbish players if he can. For Moss it certainly worked the first season, after that not as well. But overall he’s done pretty well with players who weren’t doing well with their previous team.
0:31, HA! I see what you did there.
Nice way to sneak in the Myron Cope line about the 90s Bengals teams ("Bungles").
“Now here’s a guy!”
First reaction on seeing the title was that I’m going to need a lot more information to narrow it down
Sam Wyche was not a bad coach. He led the Bengals to the Super Bowl and the Bucs improved every year he coached there. Dungy benefitted from the groundwork Wyche laid in fixing the most pathetic team in NFL history.
Wyche was a really good Offensive minded coach. The team they had in 1988 that lost to the 49ers was a really good football team. I used to love Eddie Brown when he played for them, he was a great Hurricane!
Sam was a damn good OC but an average HC. In this era if a team had a winning season they played the tougher teams next season, likewise losing season means you had a softer next season. His Bengals were so predictable if they had a winning season I knew they would flop for next season. His year by year record proves this out. I've been a Bengals fan since '75.
love the “now here’s a guy” when describing collinsworth
Lmao I’m glad someone else caught that! 😂
He was a she?
Sam Wyche wasn't that bad of a coach. He took the Bengals to the Super Bowl and invented the Sugar Huddle offense that is so often utilized today. A huge part of his win/loss record being so poor, was because that was when Mike Brown was at his cheapest, and Wyche had little to no support in scouts or anything else.
thats correct
Sam is not a terrible coach, but he was a better person than people remember
I agree he coached the Bengals to the SB and after that 1981 season leading up to 1987 the Bengals were awful in 1988 they seemingly came from nowhere
Oops, I saw the number 80 and the phrase stupidest Cincinnati receiver and just assumed it was Collinsworth.
I was sifting through a box of Football Cards the other day and happened to find 5 or 6 Score Football Rookie Cards of the aforementioned Lynn James, lol. Ahhh that glorious Junk Wax Era!
beginning of the mike brown reign of error era.
@@matthewdaley746 almost pathetic to see a rag tag owner hoist afc title trophy and go to the s b. lions may have hope yet...
@@stevenbauer4799 ra
g tag owner? U mean a humble old man that loves having dad's team more than anything on Earth? You mean the r
ag tag owner who has been at every team meeting and practice for the past 40 years? The rag tag owner who doesn't take corporate money? The rag tag owner that's not some elitist prick?
@@onenationunderground2360you mean the rag tag owner that got tax $$$'s to build that stadium. took 30 + years to win a playoff game. and kept marvin way too long. get real...he aint his dad. and jerrah does the same thing. doen't make him a great owner. davis loves daddy's team too. doesn't make him a great owner as well. davis loves daddy's team too. and not too long ago brown was second to snyder in owners most hated by their fan base poll. so spare my the brown laa tee daa b s. i'm talking about his work as an owner. not about his personal attachments to team. at least he kept daddy's name on the stadium not selling out to some corporate schmuck for naming rights.
@@stevenbauer4799yeah, the tax payers voted (me included) and that's how PBS was built. Also, did u miss the part where the Bengals have spent over $300,000,000 in free agency over the last three season's? Which I believe s in the top 3. I agree Brown kept Marvin too long, but it is what it is, Brown is loyal to his players and family.
@@onenationunderground2360 once again i never questioned brown's loyalty as an owner. its his 30+ year record as owner that says he not a great owner. and when the nfl makes $40 billion per year and all of that tv $$$ that leaves a lot of $$$'s to spend in f agency. and he should spend now and not waste burrow.
This channel is amazing! I was born in 1986 and am a huge giants fan and I’ve learned so much with your content! Keep it up it’s really entertaining and I love how you constantly come up with the videos you do great job
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Wyche had a habit of helping out troubled players. Do a story about that recovering drug addict that was on the team, after every game, win or loss, was at Sam Wyches house eating a bowl of Ice Cream because Wyche wanted to make sure he had something positive to do after a game because it was after games where emotions are high and can lead to going back to drug use. I like Sam Wyche.
The Bengals had some BAAAD coaches over the years. Sam Wyche was not one of them. He was innovative and was good at finding ways to get an edge with the talent on his roster. After Wyche was fired, there was no Bengals head coach anywhere near his league until Marvin Lewis arrived a decade later. And it would be a stretch to call Lewis better than Wyche. It's just that Marvin was so much better than Dave Shula, Bruce Coslet, and Dick LeBeau.
my friend’s mom dated him like 8 months ago
Sam Wyche wasn't that bad of a coach really
Blake to Pickens was magic for us
0:31 I saw what you did there 🤣
He was probably hanging out with Stanley Wilson.
For a team with "iffy" results since Collingsworth played they've had some pretty good wide receivers. Not this guy of course, but they have had some good ones.
Sadly they had garbage QB throwing to them.
@@Rockhound6165 Except Jeff Blake.
@@fromthehaven94 yeah he had a couple pretty good seasons.
@@fromthehaven94 And Palmer
@@drewdixon5556 I meant in the era known as The Lost Decade, which symbolically ended with the hiring of Marvin Lewis.
He wasn't "stupid" he just wasn't football smart have you ever seen the size of an average NFL playbook?
C'mon now, JG9! The stupidest receiver in Bengals history is Collinsworth. He shows us this over one 1/3rd of a calender year - every year.
R.I.P. Rickey Dixon
Now here's a guy, that totally quit on his team!
Dude could’ve worked extensively after hours with Collinsworth and Pickens, alongside their QB, to really step up his game…..but chose not to, so kept his mediocre skill set
A team with Chris Collinsworth as a top ten player all time, that’s a sad franchise.😅….Luckily for the bengals I don’t think he would even crack the top ten.
totally appreciate the 'here's a guy' reference. made me lol
When people think of #81 on the bengals, they think of eddie brown as well
10:30 JG9 gets his math test back....39.6
Sounds like what Suzanne Somers did during her contract dispute with Three’s Company.
Sort of. The only difference is that Ms. Somers was a much more valuable member of the team, so she at least had some plausible reason to believe that tactic might work.
Not quite as good as Stanley Wilson's cocaine party the night before the superbowl which he never showed for.
You mean it's not Collingsworth ...that's a shocker
These players have to shoulder unbelievable guilt by family and hanger ons. Some of the folk they deal with want the same wealth the player has via that players bank account "or were not speaking". Simple to you and I. Cut em off. Not the same game for the uneducated.
This is impressive coming from the organization that produced Chad Johnson aka. Chad Ochocinco.
Chad is one of the guys forever to be loved by the jungle, but people think he dumb, idk
We also had John Ross, the 9th overall pick.
lol "Sam Wyche was not a very good head coach." wat
If you want more playing time, you practice as hard as you can!
This is a primary example of company\team culture. Our true values come to the surface during difficult times. A teams values are what is accepted and tolerated.
sam walsh was the greatest couch ever he actually stand up for hes players and city and most 90 bengals player at the time was there in 89 when the nfl let the 49s cheat to win the superbowl cause joe montana was corner and looked bad
so glad I grew up with the Posse as the receiving corp of my favorite team.
Stupid receivers like Chris Henry? Constantly embarrassed the Bengals but then again he did get way too many concussions catching up in the air only to land on his head.
Skip ahead to the 7:30 mark and wear ear protection, Jag is in a whole different octave.
There are coaches who are beneficial to play for when you're looking at life after football. Sam Wyche always seemed like one of those coaches.
Love Sam
Carl Pickens had to be one of the biggest jerks in NFL history. They just had toxic players. Even Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmandzadeh refusing to block thinking it was beneath them. I'm thankful for the wide receivers the Bengals have now.
T.J. Houshmandzadeh is one of the softest wide receivers ever to play in the NFL . That's why I never take him as a sports analyst seriously.
@@feck2594 Ya I would have to agree. A lot of disrespect for opponents and not a team player. I see Ja'Marr Chase blocking down the field and think if we only had that years ago.
yall don't know them . Jesus grow up
@@bradheltonmagee9980 neither do you. Jesus is Lord.
@@TheJpep2424 no Jesus is a fictional character. secondly I'm not the one making statements based off my feelings again grow up junior
“ wait a minute we are bending over backwards for Lynn James that’s not contributing anyway”😂😂😂😂😔 and I’m a Bengals fan and remember this🤦🏾♂️
Lynn is also a member of the 1 Touchdown Club!!
Looks like a team of bagels.
Wait. We had a receiver fall out of the back of a pickup and die. I think that beats this.
Keep up the good work and content ☺️🙂🙂🙂🙂
It was the bungles what the hell do u expect? Lol
I loved sam wyche! Jags fan need to stay in their lane and not speak on stuff he don't know!
"You don't live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati, act like it!"
I'm not sure why James thought that ditching his teammates like he did would make things better. He was lucky not to be fired a week before he was. I knew the '91 Bengals were inept (I didn't see it coming at the time), but I didn't know about the ineptitude of the decision making of one of their players.
The Bengals quick slide to ineptitude sadly coincides with owner Paul Brown passing away prior to the 91 season. Without his guidance to tell Mike "Hey, dont do THIS, don't draft THIS GUY, etc" the team went off the rails fast. For a while, Mike Brown and Jerry Jones and Jim Irsay were the only owners also acting as GMs. This isn't the best idea.
Couldn't find any information as to what happened to this guy after his career was over. Would be kind of funny if he went into coaching.
he took part in a 2017 sports illustrated golf tournament. But the story written about it, did not include him. "The after-party: Inside the life of the modern professional athlete in retirement" Guess got left on the editing floor. Aight, that was my 10minute effort lol.
Sorry, but Wyche was a good head coach.
I'll see your Lynn James and raise you Antonio Brown.
Yeah, but Antonio Brown was actually good. This guy? Not so much.
Now here’s a guy
JLP: "Das Amazing!"
So this dude is the Football grandfather of Ben Simmons 😂
Wow--What a story. Never remember this one in NFL history. Great job reporting on it.
Kinda looks like a certain Brown
Him leaving the team was stupid I only got half the story.
Oh, I thought this was going to be about Chris Henry.
Chris was a beast!
@@Murdah513 He was a beast but absent-minded... RIP to Chris Henry though
@@MarloSoBalJr no he was young and in love. Just bc he had a absent mind moment that cost him his life, he all of a sudden completely absent minded period? Stop it 🛑 ✋️
@@MarloSoBalJr are you defined off of 1 moment in your life?
@@Murdah513 normaly when you have a absent minded moment that cost you your life your defined and remembered by it yes
Thoughtless decision aside, you seem mad that Sam Wyche decided to treat James with compassion and understanding instead of contempt.
Should James have been cut? Maybe. But Sam really did try to give players every opportunity. I think a hefty fine was enough punishment, plus he ended up being cut a week later. It's pretty likely the team was going to move on from him after this season anyways, and he wasn't much of a contributor.
Sam has said the hardest thing he's ever had to do was tell Stanley Wilson he wasn't going to play in the Super Bowl after he relapsed and did drugs (cocaine iirc) in the hotel bathroom the night before the game. I'm sure it killed him, because he knew what Wilson was going through, but there's no way he could play in that game.
Now here's a guy... LMFAO!
I would love booted him off the team the moment he showed back up. Want more playing time? Ya blew it!
Far cry from another guy named Lynn who's a HOFer, namely Lynn Swann of the Noll Era Steelers.
Well it was crazy back then but that’s Just what they do these days. If they are mad about anything the dip out & clear all traces of team from insta and in the nba because of guarantee contracts the teams have no power. That’s why they do all these “super teams” where the players that should be battling one another deep in playoffs if not finals now they team up. SMH. The rings they win are hollow. Fake rings. Not the Warriors but KD’s is. Spurs are all real. Mavs have a real one, Milwaukee, & in 04 the pistons won a real ring against a lakers “super team x 2. Yea
I think/hope the owners will demand that change in next collective bargaining. Never thought I’d be pulling for the owners in on of those things but the players are ruing the league. There is no elite competition facing each other like it should be in an elite league. Go Spurs Go Grizz!
Just one of the reasons why they're called the Bungles. 😆
We are called Afc Champs now 🙂
He was probably the biggest bungler in the "Bungles" era.
By the way, congrats on your great season. Far from being "Bungles"! Good luck in the upcoming season.
@@Murdah513 🚬😎🗣💨
AFC CHAMPS.. Find the team that's looking forward to playing us now.. Dumb comment 🤪
@@eldredcooke7054 "Find the team that's looking forward to playing us now."
Here's your answer: every other team in the AFC. Being AFC champs, the Bengals have a target on their back now.
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