Shincheonji Ex-Member | Why I Still Believe In God After Leaving A Cult | Part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- Ready, a 5-year former Shincheonji (New Heaven New Earth) member, talks about her experience in the SCJ and why she left.
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Yep I got 7 months in and that hit me with this bombshell about their belief of the trinity and that Jesus wasn’t at the beginning etc The Holy Spirit compelled
Me to speak. There were red flags but I wanted to be committed to Gods word but I was also studying on my own and towards the intermediate class it all began to become so clear. My heart was racing as I was speaking out in class and I met with the instructor after and she was not able to provide with scripture about the one who overcomes etc. definitely a antichrist spirit over the entire church. I’m saddened I wasn’t able to warn the other students except one of the brother and he immediately did his research and came to the same understanding. Praise God the Holy Spirit spoke to me. In the beginning I was still learning but Someone prayed for me as well and revealed to me that his prayer was answered by God speaking and telling literally in my mind as they were explaining about watch out for false doctrines the Holy Spirit was telling me this is a false doctrine this is the false teacher over and over again. So I dropped it and continued my own bible study’s with friends and family. Their whole organization will be destroyed it’s sad that they are misleading so many people that just want a home in Christ.
My sister do you know what you're saying, you're saying words like "antichrist" an antichrist is someone that does not acknowledge that Jesus was sent by God and came to die for all. And Shincheonji is no anti-christ, did you even get to study the word and understand it? I'm feeling sad that you're thinking that way, it is said that this generation will just be like that of Noah, when the flood destroyed the people and they did not believe Noah and they thought he was crazy. Even today Shincheonji is the ark which all belivers must run to and be saved. It is bad to claim many things when you don't know exactly what you're talking about
@@FMN98 according to that Im an antichrist 🤣
@@SCJSkeptic Yes because Shincheonji preaches the truth yet you call them anti christ, Shincheonji acknowledged that Jesus is from God
@@FMN98 there is simply no evidence for any of SCJ's supernatural claims so I wouldnt use the word "truth" to describe their teachings.
Thank you for this. My heart hurts because i knew right away it was deceptive. I only joined because 2 of my children are in it. So I joined so i could know what they are being taught. I didn't see it immediately but after the New John was introduced I knew where it was heading. The manipulation is strong. I pray i can get my 2 children to see it.
Thanks
I left about six months ago and was in it for about a year. It was kind of scary and I thought I was wrong for not understanding and believing it while I was in there, but then I finally left after they told me to leave because I wasn’t willing to accept what they were teaching
I got out of this cult after spending eight out of ten months with them. I thought I was learning Scripture, but turns out, I was being deceived. I'm lucky to be able to get out of their clutches with my life.
my husband is there too and has completely separated himself from the family
By your saying this, I feel that it could be your own husband making that decision or it could be his family causing him to do that, or it could be you not speaking factually or from your own perception of things. I am attending the classes and still discerning things out (to be fair, one should before making any conclusion right?) and in no way did any teachers teach us that we should separate ourselves from our family. In fact, the teachers share how it is basic of humans to take care of their family (parents, spouse, children).. the main leader shares even the people from other religions do that, even dogs and cats and animals take care and protect those that belong to them. And how we must fulfill our basic duties even better so that it will not cause us uninvited persecution to attend classes. So, I don't believe that they teach your husband to separate from your family. :)
@@wem-c9fcontrolled opposition
What are you talking about? @@SuperMarioFitness
@@wem-c9fit’s already happened. They don’t come right out and say it. They do it slowly and nicely over time. Notice how classes went to more and more days, from 2 days to 3, from 3 days to plus Sunday.
If you’re still there I’d ask about LMH claims. Ask about revelation 7 being fulfilled and why he claimed Covid was the tribulation and that meant that 144,000 were sealed but they actually are not. Ask about his prior cult activity from where his doctrine lends from.
@@wem-c9f no, not outright. They do it subtly.
God I need your help to get my mom back.
did she came back? :)
I met them today up at our Town centre here in New Zealand and realised very quickly it’s a cult after listening and speaking to one of the members.
They recruited a young lady while I was listening next to them and felt like telling her it’s a cult but wanted to talk to the first.
I was able to connect with the person and allow the Holy Spirit to move do he ended up getting overwhelmed by the presence of God which he hadn’t experienced before. I told him to make an effort to pursue a deeper relationship with God and that the gospel is as simple as Jesus died for our sins and rose again and he is the bridge foe our relationship with God and to allow the Holy Spirit to bring truth as you read the word as he is the helper and comforter.I said we will connect again next week and chat more.
It's interesting that at about the 13:00 mark she says they gaslit her with the verse where God says "My thoughts are higher than your thoughts" "and they stretch that as far as they can". I can think of another very common group that this channel deals with that gaslights people with that exact same verse.
I think I may know which group you are referring to :)
World mission society church of God 😂😂@@GreatLightStudios
That was such lovely interview and so informative too. She is beautiful inside and out. Thank you.
May I ask about the book her father gave her ?
Thanks! The book is called "I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist" by Frank Turek
@@GreatLightStudios I read that book while in SCJ as well
@@SCJSkepticI met her in there
Why were we never told what the books were?
Exactly!!! Rules and works
I would like to hear from someone who left about how the fulfillment training is taught and whether it’s real or not. Because they show you videos and photos of the “fulfillment”.
As someone who is there i can tell you that its real
Hiw can i get hold of Ready?
Isaiah 65 17. "Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things shall not be remembered, neither shall they come to mind. Isaiah 66 22. "As the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, they shall remain before me," says the Lord, "So shall your name and your descendants live. 2 Peter 3 13. But he
amen, Shincheonji means new heaven new earth, this is the work of God, no matter what happens it will never stop, people who are trying to persecuate shincheonji are going against Gods work
@rejuzaman6365 amen 🙏✝️
She mentiones books written by Lee, can I get the names and a link to order them.
You can find the books on these links, on the Google docs link in the article written by the ex-member. So you can see for yourself the teaching materials they are using.
docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTMBhZBXiGunJZamQxM-qphO2lXX8eqVp-XkHKotmlkhq6nZxgkIFDpaI-voXft4Q/pub
Where can we access the books?
You can find the books on these links, on the Google docs link in the article written by the ex-member. So you can see for yourself the teaching materials they are using.
@@gauravigawade Where?
It seems like she is sticking to her own standard of righteousness by what she says @4:33. Of course what Jesus has done for us in the first coming matters so much. Without what Jesus did how can there be Revelation? How can there be his second coming? But since we are living in the time of the second coming, then we must obey what Jesus is doing in Revelation. We don't live in the first coming. We have to stick to God's standard of righteousness and that includes today, which is the time of Revelation. So she is saying that we should 'rest' on what Jesus has done on the cross, so we can just chill? So we do not need to overcome according to what Jesus says in Rev 2-3? So we do not need to bear fruit and heal the world? So her God is a God who does not have rules to follow and it is free range? Does her bible contain Revelation? Which Jesus is she worshipping? :)
What do you mean "bear fruit and heal the world"?
@@skincare7180in Rev 22:1-2
Don’t you have any evil spirits once you leave.
You never know. Pray to Jesus. Ask Him to dispel any spirits in you.
Hope that helps.
Nope. Im evil spirit free 😂
@@SCJSkeptic I don’t understand. I asked many people. They don’t face experience same as me.
@@saasa3146 Well just to be clear. I dont think there is such a thing as an evil spirit to begin with. However, I do acknowledge that some people have experiences that they are convinced is a result of evil spirits.
@@SCJSkepticyou're misleading people and you say there's nothing as an evil spirit but the bible clearly tells us that evil spirits exist
In Shincheonji, everything is orderly , just like in God's kingdom in heaven. Don't decide on something , you are not supposed to,inform your superior to keep a count of your sheeps where they go. It is a leadership practice.
Textbook high control group mentality. Your concept of leadership sounds authoritarian.
@@SCJSkeptic Speaking of control it sounds not good, no one likes to be controlled. But control is only good if it is by the Spirit of God. When the Spirit of God controls one's life , evil has no place in your heart.
@@dorisracaza9509 Do you have any evidence that "the spirit of God" exists and that anyone has ever been controlled by "the spirit of God"?
@@SCJSkeptic if one knows the Word of God , he is then controlled by the Spirit of God. Know that God's words are unchanging, what He promised will absolutely fulfill. Please read Rom 8:5-8.
@@dorisracaza9509 I asked for evidence, not another claim. Claims are not evidence.
This is really the same thing which happened in the times of Noah😅
We have to be careful and understand the Bible we have to be harvested everyone.
We should clearly understand the book of revelation and the entire Bible. I hope the best you can validate all what you are saying with bible stop lying to people on your words.
There are interviews with the characters who appeared in the revelation of reality. You should especially know Shin the snake. I can send them to you.
I have been there for 7 years, the teaching has been changed several times. When we had reached 144,000, the fulfillment changed to each tribe having to have 12,000. Later, when we had the supposed 100,000 ceremony in COVID-19 I had to realize that my siblings in the community were standing where only graduates were supposed to stand. Later I was told internally that they didn't have 20,000 students who graduated. That was a prediction, but it was a lie and didn't even come true.Affairs, money evasion, where exactly did Jesus have that?
How can you take 5 years in Cult.That mean you don't have knowledge of what you believe in .
Shincheonji will prove everyone wrong,the same thing happen to Jesus ,Jesus was killed by those who where waiting for him.
I know you may have the thought that you have to sacrifice yourself because that's what the younger ones did.
And I absolutely agree with you.
Brother, do you remember when Jesus was in court several times and either said only what was necessary or accepted the punishment. He was judged by the Pharisees and scribes,They brought Jesus to the man who represented Rome and the world. What did this man do? He said he washed his hands in Innocence and found him not guilty.
What I wanted to say is that many people have no information about what is really going on in Korea. I have been in there for 7 years(Germany) and I can tell you, one thing. If your argument is the doctrine, you must know that it has changed several times and with dramatic consequences. One thing that may surprise you is the qualifications necessary to be chosen as a priest. This is NEW!!!!!!
There are too many things that cannot be done when one is with Jesus.When he was found guilty of embezzling the money (and yes, he used it to build a villa!)He lied in court and said that he did not order the teachers to call him "Promised Shepherd", "John" etc.
Read (Matthew 19:18)
Jesus is and always was innocent Not even Pilatus cannot find him guilty !
If you think it's true, check it out, you'll be surprised that this man is anything but loving. By the way, the anniversary celebrations have been faked.