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  • @ricksand6477
    @ricksand6477 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Incredibly moving tribute to the men who made the greatest sacrifice on June 6th, 1944. Thank you, Ben. I've enjoyed every THE PLOT THICKENS podcast, but this episode went in a direction I didn't expect it to take. Well said and well done!

  • @azohundred1353
    @azohundred1353 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Excellent episode, TCM. This also serves as a reminder about the importance of archival history organization.

  • @dsnyguy1
    @dsnyguy1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Ben -this is wonderful! Thanks again!

    • @jubalcalif9100
      @jubalcalif9100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My sentiments exactly !

  • @williamowen9528
    @williamowen9528 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks again, Ben!

    • @jubalcalif9100
      @jubalcalif9100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I heartily concur !

  • @timothyhibarger2568
    @timothyhibarger2568 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have loved the plot thickens since its Inception! Flying off to London in search of rare film, can I call you Indiana Mankiewicz?

  • @VictoreeatC
    @VictoreeatC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    BTW, the "Anacostia" Ford was referring to was not a National Archives film storage facility. He was talking about the Naval Photographic Science Laboratory at Anacostia Naval Air Station. Some Field Photo personnel were assigned there. NPSL had production facilities used to make training films. Ford may have been spinning a tale, but he was probably very familiar with the NPSL. There was probably a lot of WW2 material still stored there in 1964.

  • @Mike-wr7om
    @Mike-wr7om 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You should look for corroborating evidence among all those cameramen and editors who Ford claimed worked on the film. Find out who the cameramen and editors were, or if you don't know who they were, speculate as best you can who they would most likely have been (the crew that worked with him on The Battle of Midway would be a good start). Since they are probably all dead now, look in their memoirs, journals, letters, interviews, etc. for any corroborating evidence on the shooting and editing of this film. Also, interview their children (or surviving spouses, if still alive), and ask if they ever spoke about working on a D-Day film with John Ford. You act as if, absent finding the film itself, we can only go on Ford's word about the project. You seem to forget that dozens of people potentially worked on the project. If you can corroborate even just two or three independent accounts of the project, then you have proven that the project existed, and that Ford wasn't lying.

    • @eoeo4916
      @eoeo4916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I came here to make the point you’ve made so clearly. An inquiry that didn’t consider looking for the crews and technicians that would have been essential to making a D-Day film isn’t much of an investigation.

    • @VictoreeatC
      @VictoreeatC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am in the process of gathering the names of the Field Photo men. I have about 70 ID'd so far. It is a big job. I'm grateful Ben M. moved the ball down the field. It is up to other researchers to continue the work. There are some interesting finds, but the research continues.

    • @Mike-wr7om
      @Mike-wr7om 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@VictoreeatC It's important work. Thanks for doing it, and best of luck.

  • @johnmulvey5121
    @johnmulvey5121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Well done!

    • @jubalcalif9100
      @jubalcalif9100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This new season about John Ford had been incredibly informative & entertaining!

  • @coarsgold
    @coarsgold 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When the Legend becomes fact, print the Legend...Ford never set foot on Omaha Beach on D-Day.

    • @metamoralia
      @metamoralia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Haha ...yes, subtly misleading, at least not on D-Day itself. Zero evidence for that ... This episode is as guilty of the same kind of mythification as Ben snidely, and weirdly, ascribes to the entirety of Russian/Soviet film history.

  • @jubalcalif9100
    @jubalcalif9100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another incredibly fascinating episode! Well done, everyone! 👍

  • @BlueBaron3339
    @BlueBaron3339 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outstanding series except for this episode. Halfway through I skipped to the next episode. Well...I can see from the comments that many listeners found the search for the lost film fascinating rather than an exercise in an unhealthy degree of obsession. And I can understand given how utterly unique John Ford was. I suppose he can inspire deep dives into bizarre rabbit holes. 😂

  • @VictoreeatC
    @VictoreeatC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent! Very nicely done! I've also been researching the "missing film" since I read Stephen Ambrose's book. I've learned a lot about Field Photo's work on D-Day - what it did and what it didn't do. I was afraid this would be a myth supportive piece. It was not! You discussed Ford's propensity for confabulation and his obsession with being seen as super masculine. If only he could have settled for just having served honorably, he never would have made up the lost film myth and we would not have been looking for leprechauns for forty years.

  • @robb7398
    @robb7398 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sorry but Valentine's Day? Who cares? Isn't that for kids?