NEW Sulfur Battery Is a Real Game Changer | 900 Mile Range Tesla?
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Lyten is trying to make lithium sulfur batteries as well. I don’t believe any battery breakthrough claim out there. Even if it’s true, they have to be able to produce billions of batteries to be serious. Nothing in a lab is even worth looking at for us. I’m sure Tesla is working with every single one of them.
Remember Tesla wants to be the worlds largest producer of batteries. But they are the worlds largest consumer of batteries as well. They get first dibs of all battery tech.
aka Tesla Marketing Department
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China #### policy...! 😅😅
Fear for money from china...!! 😂
just curious - why is "zero covid" blurred out from the China Policy from Elon's tweet? lol makes it more controversial than necessary
At 1:07 The blurred out phrase in Musk's tweet is "China zero Covid policy"
Did he censor it because of youtube reasons? TH-cam is so dumb.
@@President_Mario No, plenty of other channels published the same tweet uncensored.
@@President_Mario to answer your question, yes I’d say it’s very likely he censored it to prevent YT algorithm from demonetizing/flagging his video.
He blocked it out because his balls were injected with soy.
the way you say "next few decades" so casually makes me want to live for next 100 years..
I’m starting to lose hope that I will ever see electric cars becoming mainstream. The pace of change is painfully slow, unnecessarily so, and unnecessarily expensive.
@@Alrukitaf True 😌
@@Alrukitaf Change seems slow until it’s not. Google technology disruption S curve or watch Tony Seba’s presentations. We are at the bottom of the S. The transition from
ICE to EV will be mostly done by 2030.
Next decade…. More like a couple of decades. Plus the charge rate is still the biggest issue.
@@bboytwisty I don’t get this charge rate issue, I own a few houses and my tesla charger that give 44 miles an hr was overkill so for my second house I just use the wall outlet for 5 miles an hr and that’s still more then enough. From the time I get home at 5:30 to when I go to work again the next morning I get 70 miles of range. My commute is 15 miles so 30 is
Round trip, back and forth…. Even if you drive 200 miles back and forth for work a 44 miles charge an hrs is plenty. Most will only need 5
A Sulphur battery that uses Graphene seems like still a problem as Graphene so far has been difficult and expensive to produce in volume. Makes sense starting with Aerospace which needs max performance and cost less important.
Graphene ... Currently ..CANNOT be produced in large quantities. And in Consistent 2 micro thickness. It RIPS and TEAR easily ...causing inconsistent width or Length.
We can make Graphene with solar energy and trash, Carbonize the trash and zp it with less than 40 votls.
Moon mining
@@sunshinesun121 Rips and tears until it is done?
@@sunshinesun121 If your Li-S battery uses 3D graphene, you should consult the James Tour Group at Rice U. for its Laser Induced Graphene, (LIG), process that could provide cheap roll-to-roll production with included dopants that maintain high electrical conductivity.
Sufur battery, I have been hearing about this for ages. every now and then a company comes around saying they have solved the problem, then nothing.
💯Hype to get people excited and buy more cars
We have heard this all before double the range charge in 2 mins and cheaper stuff the last 5 years or more not happened yet.
Yes, but don't tell anyone.
I just ordered a model 3 LR 2 weeks ago. Should I cancel and wait for 4860s to release with a new Model 3?
if i order now for the model Y when I get the new 4680 battery? do you know? thanks
Ryan, regarding the Tesla Insurance Safety Score for those of us in CA, how are you able to signup for that without having FSD? The Tesla Insurance underwriter I spoke with was clueless about the SS, and the Tesla folks tell me that you have to have FSD, at least in CA. Thanks!!
BTW, in the car industry, Q1 is usually your slowest quarter of the year
Which means they will crush 1 million sales this year, if the battery supply remains about the same
If they can build them, the electronics industry is brutal at the moment
That is a very big "IF"
1million is Great but oh my there is 80million car produced/year
@@chriauc2976 That's in a normal year for for normal gas cars. Tesla has only been around 10 years against most of the others 100+ years. OK a million cars is not a lot out of 80million but he's built the infrastructure for them also! Then if you look where has built his giga factories! His cars are not market specific, the are global cars.
The Picture of the White 5 Models Y's will be the STAR of the TEXAS FLAG of Tesla cars when its done. This is why they needed to make Red , White & Blue Models for the Flag for the event on the 7th! !
I had thought the Model 3 single-motor RWD was more efficient than the dual-motor AWD.
It is because of weight I would assume, you could probably turn on eco mode to increase mileage so it only uses 1 motor instead of both of them together for sport mode
It is. The error is somewhere in their "real range" calculation for the two vehicles, making the DM3 capable of 4.29 miles/kwh vs 4.09 for the SM3. Honestly i think it's because the true usable kWh for the DM3 is closer to 75kWh but they have it reported as 70.
It would be great if you could start providing links to the sources where you are gathering your information so that we can read a little more in depth.
My Model Y could get here as soon as April 14!!! We are super excited and cannot wait
Any ideas how much it would cost for commercial insurance for a Tesla in California?
Nice to see Giga Berlin not only opening, but also churning out Teslas!
Love from Slovenia 🇸🇮!¡!¡
They should consider a long range trim, design it with a dual motor on a single shaft to a normal automatic transmission.
I got the Tesla insurance in IL. They default with a safety score of 90, which which put me in par with Progressive (the most affordable I could find for myself). Now that I have had for three months, my safety scores landing between 95 and 96 with the worst category being unsafe following (my follow distance is set to 1). My costs have dropped enough to make it worth keeping the insurance, sort of. I also noticed that on highway trips, my daily scores is 85 for chilled interstate driving. My local 4 mile trips in town are at or near 100.
If you drive on the highway a lot, I would recommend not bothering with Telsa insurance. Also note there is no app for claims. You have to call an 800 number and wait a LONG time (hour +) to get any information on your insurance. A lady hit me (very light damage), and the cop got tired of waiting and gave me his email to email policy information that I didn't have. Tesla insurance does not provide insurance cards without requesting them. I have gotten no emails or snail from them. Just a debit deduction each month.
After three months, I will probably go back to my old insurance company. I am saving a few dollars, but I don't feel Telsa insurance has any customer support worth noting. And when I really want my insurance company behind me, I do not feel saving $5 a month is a good trade off
Seems like the hulmark of Elon companies the worst possible user experience/service. So far on month 2 of starlink waiting for a warranty router but still get billed and can’t pause but also can’t use.
This would be incredible
They already had supply contracts in place give it a year to really see the cost jumps if battery minerals keep going up at current 10x a year you will see 30k$ just for battery packs so either demand needs to drop or we need to find massive pockets of the minerals is a stable country with good Infrastructure and also hope that copper prices don’t keep climbing
just a note, the mining company is pronounced Val-ay, they're a Brazilian company that purchased the nickel mine in Sudbury, Ontario.
Came here to say this. Val-eh, not Vail.
I guess Hertz wanted more expensive cars that they could falsely report stolen.
Ha ha ha, so true. Thus the reason people are using Turo.
Hertz is not falsely reporting anything.
@@donwinston Search for it, its a fairly common story.
@@donwinston hundreds of people claim to have been arrested wrongfully for false police reports of stolen cars that Hertz called accidental stolen car reports. I’m not sure how you would make that mistake hundreds of times
@ Monroe - he can’t because the truth Hertz.
Mary: "We 17.5x our delivery numbers from Q4 2021 (26) to Q1 2022 (457) !"
Biden: "You did, Mary!"
And she did it "single-handedly"...
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nice videos, very professional
600 mile range with either A/C or heater running in temperatures from -20F to 110F. That's when my interest will be peaked and might be tempted to obtain an EV.
We have solar on the roof and are saving up for an electric car. We will be driving for free while you continue to give your paycheck to Exxon!
Very informative video. Well done.
A Sodium-Sulphur battery was developed almost 50 years ago. High capacity, sure, but also needed to operate at high temperatures, and used ceramic electrolyte. Lithium is lower on the periodic table, so it is less active than Sodium, but still can burn, albeit less energetically than Sodium.
Just read somewhere that they have solved that issue.
Why not invest into SSB (solid state batteries) which will be safer, cheaper, last longer, and still provide 2.5x more storage than standard Li batteries?🤔
Has there been any actual confirmation on 4680 cells and amd chip in all MYs coming out of giga Austin?
Try looking at Sandy Munro's video of the giga-rodeo. He was like a kid on Christmas morning looking at the engineering displays.
Of course there hasn't.
I've lived in Austin for a long time. Let me know if you need recommendations on food or places to go. I haven't gotten an invite yet but I hope to see you there!
Why did you blur out the two word description of the china policy. (I can guess that it is 'anti-covid' policy) but why blur it out?
DeLorian electric car…. Great Scott!!!!
The Rivian is a "FUN" truck/SUV. I hope that's enough to keep the company afloat.
Lithium Metal Foil. The battery would have to be manufactured in a vacuum or within a noble gas chamber, since lithium metal reacts with a number of gases in air.
There is no magic. "Filling" a 900 mile battery with energy will take a LOOOONG time, and a SUPER high voltage feed. So while bigger better batteries are nice, they don't fix all the problems.
I believe that would be ok. You don't have to drive it to zero all the time. You could have it hovering at about 400 miles, and then filling it up over night. The 250W charching speed we have now, would probably be enough, if they could keep up that speed of about 1000 miles an hour, up to about the 80% of the 900 miles, I don't think there would be any real problems. 300 miles would be less than 20 minutes. Which would be a reasonable time to stop. Getting to say 375W would just be icing on the cake.
@@lollol35 I agree with you; taking as long time to charge is just fine. It's not even a good idea to run your battery all the way down to zero if you can help it.
Long-term battery life management best practice is to charge to about 80% and decharge to about 20%, unless your specific journey requires more (i.e., don't go to the store and back, and then charge it.) Like an ICE car, you fill it *only when you need to;* in other words, as rarely as possible, and not after every trip.
Why? Each charge cycle incurs a lifespan penalty (it's "bad" for the battery.) This is why you don't charge a battery at 70% SOC (unless you're riding to Mansfield.)
Also, default charge at L2 (240V,) because each Level 3 (DC or 440V) charge also incurs a penalty.
This varies by chemistry; a supercap or ultracap battery would be largely unaffected by such things (though we may determine otherwise once we have a thousand of them in use, and can start to determine best practices for supercapacitors and ultracapacitors; as of 2022, they're hardly out of labs yet.)
Hang in there, on time this problem will be solved too. Where there's money to be made, problems will be solved. Optimism prevails.
Li-S batteries have the potential to change the game and disrupt the disruptors. Assuming the stability and cycle life problems are worked out and production is economically sorted.
Oh great. Just when i thought I wanted to get a Model 3 LR hoping to get the 4680 battery cell and now there’s sulfur cell being made.. guess i gotta wait again if i want this new battery.
You won't see them for at least 10 years, if you see them at all. There are so many companies over the decades claiming radical new batteries that didn't arrive.
It wouldn't surprise me if it takes until the 2030s to find the ideal set of battery chemistries.
Sulphur batteries should be cheaper but you'll need a new one faster
It's just another teaser to keep you interested. Don't stay up all night waiting for Santa Claus or he won't bring you gifts.
When the robot overlords take over; humans will be the new long range batteries
Delorean? Seriously? That really is back to the future!! Will it have a flux capacitor?
Probably not a flux capacitor but it looks like it will have a sticky outy rear indicator thing, which is at least as good.
I thought the same thing, it’s back to the future! 😁
@Ken Bristow 1.21 GW.
The Flux Capacitor is not an option as of 2022...unless you can bring it back to yourself from the future.
It's also expensive; you'd better start saving for it now...so you CAN bring it to yourself from the future and not be pursued by a TimeCop.
I swear they are teasing people on purpose with that open trunk, it's like they wanted someone to see lol
Of course that’s what they’re doing
At present, the cost savings for EV's vs. ICE vehicles is primarily just because one is buying tax benefits and gov't handouts upon purchase. If gasoline were taxed in a manner similar to electricity for EV's, we would see a much different picture.
100%
I hope the Cybertruck comes with a 4680 battery considering there gonna be made in giga Texas
Yeah well they haven't looked at New Zealand power price's and are REGULARLY asked via media to switch stuff off and conserve power. Not confident for a country penalizing ppl for NOT buying EV's at a rate of around $7k in taxes. Not to mention in my area & the larger surrounding areas there is only 2 EV charging plugs.
My Friend just update on cyber truck delivery on next month May 20th
I wonder if mileage driven affects insurance at all. I have Tesla insurance on my new model Y in Texas. But I drive very little. I drove my previous model 3 less than 10,000 mi in about 3 years. I'm driving even less now being retired.
I have a problem in that my street is off a high speed boulevard and I have to make an aggressive turn to get onto my street. Otherwise I will be heavily tailgated. My score is about 92, all greens except for the aggressive turn.
So I get bad marks for making an aggressive turn. But I drive very little mileage. That seems to be ignored in my insurance calculation.
@@AudiTTQuattro2003 What does a credit rating have to fo with a person's insurance premiums?
Also, Tesla insurance? Nah
I don't believe there will be deliveries at the 4/7 event and there may have already been some deliveries in Q1 because Tesla can't deliver vehicles in Texas so they may have been shipping them elsewhere for future delivery (or already delivered).
Why can’t they deliver in Texas? That silly manufacturer sales law?
@@Andrew-gd5jp Dealership laws, I believe. Tesla has been working on this but so far, no good.
Ya how they got that record quarter of deliveries, by delivering trash. Got my y at end of march. Swirl marks all over my hood, chip over my rear passenger side door and the paint on my left front fender looked like pinched vinyl wrap. That was just the outside. 3 days later pretty much everything was disabled. Regen braking, hold, traction control, autopilot, lane assist and all safety features. Oh but wait a week before we actually try to fix all that. The paint is pure trash by the way. If you can, hold out for texas. Hopefully the paint shop will be a huge upgrade
Nice
Calling it now: there will be a flag of Texas made with red, white and blue Teslas in the parking lot.
realized :)
Do you think the Cyber Rodeo will be live streamed?
Ryan, aren't you surprised it's not deep crimson red as "expected"?
Hi Ryan, why don’t you talk about Tesla road/wind noise issues and how it is acceptable with such huge price tag.
What road/wind noise? Have drove several Teslas, and all have been very quite
@@newstart4jim No they are not, don’t be obtuse
Where are you people driving? Drove a model 3 a model Y, was given a ride in an S. All these cars were more quite than any other car I've driven
Load the sound meter app on your phone and compare it,
Great Video sticking to the facts and high pace clear communication. Quick dry humor sneaky sneaky. 🤟🤘
How are you attending the cyber rodeo Ryan, Did you get an invitation?
What was the blurred word in Elon’s tweet?
Can the sulfure battery take alot of charges?
No. However that is what the graphene is for it should greatly increase cycle life. It’s still in the lab. Don’t hold your breath.
Why did you blur out the words “Zero Covid” policy on the quote by Elon’s tweet on this video?
Hi Ryan- Did you get invited to the Austin Rodeo? Your channel is excellent so I sure hope so.
The government should be investing in recycling methods to get these materials from discarded products, so we don't have to depend on increased mining.
Well, if that has a 200% increase of current range (300 to 900), what could be done is decrease the pack weight by 2/3rds, which would increase range a little due to that weight savings. The EV Hummer would reduce from a 3000lb pack to 1000. Still not light, but that is a ton lighter, which should increase range rather well.
What about graphene batteries? What happened to them?
A high volume (large enough for the car market) source of consistent graphene does not exist naturally. There will be amazing graphene batteries used in other products, but not cars
Half on topic: can anyone direct me to someone talking about the switch to EV’s toll on the electric grid? Are we in trouble?
It's a big planet bud. Which Country lol
Elon doesn’t need to advertise. The Cyber Rodeo is going to be the biggest advertisement show.
sulfur has less energy density than lithium. the range would probably drop to around 50 miles.
So why are they quoting 900? Could be they've done life cycle tests! 1milllion miles!
So, has anybody tried changing their own flat tire on one of these?
I fixed a leak in one of my tires with a plug. The screw-in plugs look easier to use.
I commented a couple months ago on another channel about Lithium sulfur batteries. They're very impressive. One of the companies to keep an eye on right here n the US is a company called Lyten.
The advertised Lyten Li-S battery specs of 900 Wh/kg and 1400 cycles are for the satellite battery developed with Space Force. The automotive version only gets 200 cycles as admitted by the CEO in the interview video on their news page. This chemistry has great potential but will be labeled a scam when there's gross overstatement of its specs and material omissions of the true specs for the model with the claimed
Is there any chance I can be getting a MYP with 4680 battery? My estimated delivery is supposed to be within 3 months
I like your channel, please keep doing this, well done and nice!! thanks.
Sulfer? Stinky Sulfer? Well that should give their Toybox fart-app a real pungent punch.
It's not Tesla adding sulfur though 🤣
It's a German company that has nothing to do with Tesla
@@xkonquestx but we can hope
Vale is actually pronounced "Vah Lay".
What are some of the replies that say what’s app with a lot of numbers?
DeLorean is still in business?? Maybe they've been surviving on royalties from Back to the Future.
I want a Y in which the back seats truly fold flat! The current ones do not. Any hope that this will change? Thanks.
my main issue with teslas isnt that it takes long to charge, that it doesnt make stupid sounds
or any of that shit
its whyyy isnt it looking like a proper supercar that it is :(
Investing in Twitter was a good move IMO
Ther reputation of the Chevy Bolt has been well and truly trashed. I would hazard to guess fatally. Who in their right mind would want to buy one? It will be interesting to see whether their numbers grow or die
I would totally buy one if I liked them. Media overblown reports about fires doesn't dissuade me. I rationally look at the numbers and would get one, except for the fact that I don't like them to begin with.
Tesla will just make the battery smaller, charge way more for the car, pocket the price difference, and give us again 330 miles range max. Same as with the 4680.
Love your content Ryan. Looking forward to the Cyber Texas video giddy up😉
Honest question, why hasn't Elon been openly critical about the lockdowns in Shanghai?
Don’t want to get thin skinned China government angry
Very strange you blanked the zero covid portion of China policy. ???
I think saying or showing the word COVID on TH-cam demonetizes the video.
TH-cam censorship threats.
I told Elon 2 yrs ago to get his own mines. Thank goodness he listened. The difference between a 140 iq and a 180iq.
'Vale' is pronounced 'Vallay'.
Is this me? No wait this isn’t me. I have a silly accent.
The model 3 should be a hatchback
It's hard to believe it isn't. My brother in law was set on buying one until he learned that it wasn't a hatch. He's still driving his old Prius (old!). The guy can afford a Ferrari. Interesting decision on Tesla's behalf.
I read that some "clown" at giga berlin, took a black sharpie and wrote on the centre consoles. I guess they are going to need to improve security there and escort them off premises. The nerve of this person.
It’s called value adding but only if it was the right clown 🤡.
I don't know about other builders and tradesmen, but I'm happy for all these puddle jumpers y'all all driving around. But us working guys, doing trade work, we want the electric truck already!!! I put my deposit down the day this was announced, come the fuck on already.
Just came for the Battery info. If they can get 900 miles safely, Then it would justify buying EV for me. I do see the cost of charging is starting to go up
Aside from the total charge, I think a gatekeeper (for those that do more road trips) is the fact that some of those super chargers don't deliver the 200miles in 15 minutes and it's closer to 150 in 30 near me, and longer to fully charge which is a shame (fully charging is obviously different as you don't want it to be at 100% EVERY time you charge).
It's pronounced Va-Le.....also they don't have a good environmental track record in Brazil....
Howdy, why did you blur out "zero Covid" on part of Musk's tweet about Chinese policy?
the C word is banned by TH-cam/FB/Insta/Etc...
@@roydenvickers6382 ahhh. Damn, that sucks!
How do you produce 10 cars but deliver 11?
Unsold vehicles produced during the previous quarter.
Aluminium like uranium and helium.
Magnis Energy ($MNSEF) 100% own Nachu Project (graphene mine) with large offtake contract with Traxys, about to finish their IM3NY factory in NY to produce the new C4V LiSER BMLMP battery(no nickel/cobalt) in June 2022 that doesn't use any Chinese products/supply.
What next, nuclear batteries?
Funny, I was today at a Swiss company media event which announced solid state sulfur batteries.
Concepts are good but in reality we need to take baby steps now.. It will take 20 more years to replace most gas cars with electric at least.
We have 200 years of oil under our feet.. we can stretch that to 300 with good electric progress.
Only pay $75 for a 99% safety score. Roughly a 50% reduction in premiums for me 🤑
900 MILES? He'll have to proof it.
All Tesla vehicles should have 3 ac outlets for input and output…in frunk…passenger area and trunk. Allowing portable power stations to charge or discharge the Tesla.
Wow unlimited range electric cars trucks by Edison generators or battery powered dynamos. What is wrong with normal electric technology for transportation and power plants??