Indeed, and From the ground perspective, it seemed that Ashoka was force choking letta, and had chopped up some troopers. Number dos Fives was extremely unstable, he pointed a DC 15s at the chancellor, and wrestled away his guards, he trapped a general and a captain inside a ray shield, when commander fox told him to get on his knees, repeated saying don’t do it trooper Fives goes for the blaster pistol, on the clone home world, held a gun to one of its chief scientists and knocked out several troopers. All this would be guilty of treason and death. (Espically due to the reason he really doesn’t have any rights as a clone trooper) I mean seriously, you point a gun at the President of the United States, and then hold hostage an integral research, a general, an army captain, and he points a gun at you despite being ordered to stop wouldn’t you shoot him too? Plus, Fox has no emotional attachment to fives. I’m just as much of a fan of fives as the next guy, but it was due to his instability that made him do rash decisions, like going for the pistol despite being told not to. Also, I don’t see a lot of evidence of Palatine’s directly ordering Fox to kill fives, it looks like palpatine’s just wanted to be aware where to fugitive was.. If you do gimme a time stamp or a video.
Commander fox facts: He was the clone who killed fives in one of the last episodes of season 6, and he was also Palpatines personal favorite clone out of the entire clone army.
That's interesting. I really don't collect action figures, but I do collect LEGOs, and ironically enough the one LEGO minifig of Commander Fox is also quite rare and expensive. He just can't catch a break!
Palpetine had likely given Fox orders to shoot to kill. Fives was too dangerous to be kept alive in Palpetine's eyes after learning the truth about the biochips. And as Fox had more respect for the Senate and Chancellor than the Jedi, he carried out the order without hesitation, even if he did remove his helmet to show Fives proper respect. Gonna be honest, the fact he paid respect to Fives shows he still had some level of brotherhood to the Clones on the front lines, and may have actually regretted taking the life of one of his brothers, even if he didn't even hesitate to fire a killshot rather than stunning him.
Yeety Diamond Fives was stupid enough to think that he could take out Commander Fox and multiple Shocktroopers. Idiot I say, but he wasn’t right in the mind at that time, so I forgive him.
I can never understand why Fox is hated so much and here’s why: 1. He’s kind’ve a badass considering he and a small squad of troopers saved Padme’s life from ZIRO the Space Pimp. He also has some of the best armor in my opinion second only to Gree’s phase two. 2. Fox helped save the lives of a half dozen senators including Padme again when he let the Bounty Hunters go instead of risking the Senators’ lives by engaging in a fire fight. 3. Sure, pointing the “cleaner” droids in the direction of the generator room was stupid of Fox to do, but there have been clones who have made worse mistakes. Ex: Trauma for charging at Opress without firing a shot, that 212th clone that charged at Pong Krell, those three ARF troopers who blindly ran into enemy fire in their AT-RTs and were killed in the Clone Wars movie, Commander Gree for not requested backup on a ship full of clones when a traitor was discovered, and so on... 4. If Fox let Ahsoka go after she seemed to have killed the criminal in the fifth season just on a hunch that Ahsoka was innocent, that would’ve been stupid of him to do and against procedure for that situation. 5. Yes, we all miss Fives and hate the fact that Fox killed him, but that’s no reason to hate Fox! Take a step into Fox’s shoes for a second... news breaks out to the Courusant guard that a lunatic clone has just attempted to assassinate the Chancellor and has battered two of Fox’s men. Later, Fives is discovered to be near a hangar, a place where runaway clones would usually go to get off-world. The Courusant guard responds to the scene with little info of what’s actually going on. Fox turns a corner to see the delinquent clone holding a clone captain and a JEDI KNIGHT hostage! Fox points a gun at Fives and orders him to, “Get on your knees!” Instead of complying, Fives pulls a gun on an entire squad of troopers, thus risking the lives of Fox and his men. In a split second, Fox shoots Fives dead before Fives could’ve potentially killed someone. Fox was given no choice by Fives but to kill him in that instant the moment Fives stupidly aimed a pistol at him. And before you argue that Fox could’ve switched to stun, Rex killed 3-4 of his own men in season seven of the Clone Wars in order to save Ahsoka’s life without switching to stun! So I guess Rex gets a pass but Fox doesn’t after killing four times the amount of clones? Also, how is threatening to stun someone supposed to be taken seriously by a crazy man? Wouldn’t the fear of getting shot be much more effective in an arrest than just stunning someone? In the words of Rick from Rick and Morty, “How is ‘knocking out’ a deterrent? Everyone wants to get knocked out, no one wants to die.” In short, Fox shouldn’t be hated so much because, “Good soldiers follow orders.”
I wouldn't even say that you can blame Fox for the generator droids reaching their target. Yeah, he pointed the bombers towards the target, but they certainly already knew the direction. Not to mention, they had already gotten on *Coruscant*, the Republic's Capitol. How many countless other people had to have screwed up or failed at their jobs for that to happen? Seriously, all of the intelligence guys at the GAR Headquarters should be fired for never even detecting the possiblity of the attack, Fox can't be blamed for manning a single checkpoint that they happened to get through.
Great Angel, yeah, you’re right about the fact that Fox wasn’t the one who made the worst mistake in that situation. Some people like to argue that droids don’t make mistakes and Fox should’ve found it suspicious that the droids didn’t go straight to the generator. But have the people who make that argument seen the droids in Star Wars? Star Wars droids for the most part are dumb as hell.
Fox doesn’t deserve all the hate he gets. He is a good soldier, he follows orders, he’s a great commander, he doesn’t hesitate to kill someone to prevent more losses or chaos on Coruscant. He arrested Ashoka because it was the most logical thing to do, she was a suspect, the only one in the room when Leda died. She also seemed to be force choking her (in which she wasn’t), but Fox didn’t take any chances, as would any good soldier. When he told his men shoot to kill Ashoka, he did the proper thing. The exact time she got her lightsabers back, troopers in her path had died or been injured by a lightsaber. When Fives was killed, it is debatable. Yes, he should’ve stunned Fives, BUT, Fox gave Fives a chance to surrender, in which Fives turned a blaster pistol on them. Fives was threatening the lives of Fox, and Fox’s men. There is also a theory that Fox was ordered shoot-to-Kill by Palpatine had he not surrendered. I think Fox should’ve used stun, although I do think he doesn’t deserve all this hate.
Noobmaster69 exactly, he really doesn’t deserve the hate he gets and to add to his reason of killing fives, fives I believe was said to be dangerous so putting it on kill was extract precaution too
John Salonga Nah, I’m just speaking my voice. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen you on other comments saying, No shut up Shut up You’re stupid You’re wrong Etc If that is really all you do with your life that’s sad. Anyways, I’m just saying what I believe and facts.
Noobmaster69 seriously though. All those clone fanboys hating on him for killing fives (when frankly, fives kind of deserved it). It’s not like the show creators were just going to let fives stop the events of RoTS from happening. My favorite character is Grievous, but I don’t absolutely despise Obi-Wan for being the one to kill him. Absolute bollocks.
DustyHoser fox saw the situation as a guy pulled a gun on him and his boys after attempting to kill the chancellor and keeping a clone captain and Jedi Knight hostage. He had already warned him and to a crazy man, stunning isn’t a deterrent.
Everyone who says Fox should’ve switched to stun seems to have forgotten about a famous scene in the original Star Wars movie. When the stormtroopers found Leia, a sergeant told his men to set to stun, and while they were fiddling around with their guns, Leia shot and killed the sergeant, who happened to be a friend of the trooper who stunned Leia. The troopers wanted to kill Leia since she was obviously holding a gun, but Vader unfortunately gave them strict orders to take her alive. Fives’ situation was the same as Leia’s but the Chancellor obviously ordered his men to use lethal force if necessary.
The point is to show just how much of a servant he was. He was essentially a human Droid. Never thinking for himself. He could've made the conscious choice to spare his brother but he blindly followed instructions.
@@jcore0981 So say you were in Fox’s shoes. You’re told that a special forces soldier has just captured a fucking Jedi and a clone captain and is holding them hostage. You spin around the corner to arrest the soldier and the clone you’ve never met in your life before points a gun directly at you and the squad mates you’ve likely served with for years prior. Are you telling me you wouldn’t drop his ass if he did the same to you? Keep in mind, stun shots are slow af and Fives has even been shown to have ability to dodge them with ease.
@@jcore0981 And as a cherry on top, what’s to say that Fives’ gun wasn’t on stun? The scene never showed Fives switching to stun, which means that Fives was threatening the lives of everyone in the room. Imagine if Fox or one of his soldiers fired a stun shot, the supposedly crazy Fives dodges it, and opens fire on the squad with deadly rounds. That’s a risk Fox couldn’t take the moment Fives decided to point a loaded gun at a squad of Military Policemen.
I actually like Fox. I mean, yeah, Fives’ death was sad, but honestly look at Foxes sick armor paint and he’s got a lit personality. 10/10 would watch a series about him.
Finally some like minded people. Also Fives’ death is the fault of Nala Se and Palpatine. He was drugged to oblivion first of all, scared out of his mind by Palps and Fox didn’t really have any say in the matter. Switching to stun would’ve taken too long, in that time Fives could’ve killed him and his bro’s. Also Fox might’ve been mind or chip controlled by evil Sheev.
Yea also he shot only when fives picked up a lethal weapon and pointed it at him. Thats reason enough to shoot anyway. Cops in real life operate that way. Pull out a gun or even a knife and a cop will not hesitate to shoot. Fox was being kind really.
@Brian Martinez Lopez Fox was absolutely in the right to shoot Fives. For all Fox knew, Fives, a rogue ARC Trooper designed and trained to kill literally hundreds of opponents on the battlefield, had taken one of the most prolific Jedi Generals *and* his Legion's commanding officer hostage, after having just assaulted the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic in a time of war. Fox even went so far as commanding Fives to drop his gun. Once Fives aimed at Fox and his men, Fox had the choice of taking the time to switch to stun, during which time Fives could shoot, and hope that Fives doesn't seize up when stunned and have the blaster go off anyways, or neutralize the threat to himself, his men, and the hostages. It's tragic, but Fives was so manic at that point that he was beyond reason, and Fox had no other choice.
@@bluehat3673 I do not believe so, no. They went into that situation with hostages involved, it should've been their top priority to keep them alive, which includes neutralizing threats to the hostages. Neutralizing is obviously subjective, be it eliminating the hostage takers outright or just stunning them, but we've seen the Coruscant Guard go in without weapons on stun before, such as during the rescue of Senator Amidala (which I'm sure you know Fox also led). This leads me to believe that it's either the Coruscant Guard's policy to assume every situation is going to turn hostile, and to be prepared for that by having weapons on lethal setting (or at the very least be ready to put a target down when the need arises, such as during the prison riot during Kenobi's Undercover Arc). Either that, or it's an operational choice made by Fox himself. If it's the former, and it's the Guard's policy to be ready to kill at any time (which, to be fair, they *are* policing Coruscant of all places, so I don't believe that's unreasonable) then Fox shouldn't be held accountable for that if he can't change that policy. If it's the latter, and Fox decided to just go in there with weapons toggled to lethal, then I still believe he was in the right to shoot Fives, given the situation and Fives' state.
Mr Barber Fives is a heavily trained elite troop who attempted the assassination of the Chancellor, I think Fives would have killed Fox if he set it to stun. Fives was about to pull the trigger would Fox shot, stun shots are shown to be much slower that normal bolts so Fox probably would have been killed.
@@basiosrasian225 he was very close to fives so it wouldn’t have been as slow. Also fives probably wouldn’t kill his own brother without hesitating for a few seconds allowing fox to stun him in time
@@LazyCCPYeah I agree, Fives probably wouldn’t have killed Fox. But Fox doesn’t know that, from his perspective he is ordered to capture or kill a rogue clone who has almost killed the Chancellor. When Fox arrived on the scene Fives is yelling at Rex and Anakin about microchips while he has them in ray shield. Stuns would have been still been slower then a normal shot. Also my memory of this arc is a bit blurry but didn’t Palpatine order him to kill Fives anyway? What really annoys me about the Fox hate is that people think Fox was unique In the fact the he would have killed Fives. While in reality pretty much every single clone would have. Post note: I know the perverse comment says I think Fives would have killed Fox but that was made a year ago, so I don’t agree with that anymore.
Probably, but he might’ve been controlled. There’s 1. Chip and 2. Sith mind tricks. Sheev was legit one hell of a powerful sith. I doubt Fox had any choice in, well, anything
Thank you for trying to defend me in some form Wolffe. At least there is another clone who recognizes that I gave a chance for Fives to stand down....I didn’t want to kill one of my brothers.
wdym?! I am still alive! (obviously my account is made in the name of Fives, I am so happy Ana-I mean Vader, killed Fox, personally I would have killed him in a much more painful way but still glad anyways)
5IV3Z, what a guy. You know I saved him from a fate far worse than death, right? What Palpatine would’ve done to him would’ve been way worse than a single, relatively painless, shot to the chest. I didn’t want to shoot. I even disobeyed a direct order from the Chancellor and gave him four chances to stand down.
RCT-CommanderFox Lmao, Rex and Anakin wouldn’t have allowed it, they would have let the clone speak, but because Fox was stupid and rushed an unarmed and very mentally unstable man, Fox took part in the murder of billions of people.
Fox is so underrated. People think he is a douche, but in reality, he is a victim of Palpatines plans while thinking he is helping the republic because he is that loyal. People hate him for killing fives, however, fives was a wanted fugitive for assaulting the chancellor, so even if fives surrendered calmly or fox stunned him, fives would still be executed, so fox saved him, from a certain point of view. Too bad his men's incompetence got him killed
He flinched. Must have been intimidated by Anakin. Made me chuckle as well! Commander Fox knew Skywalker (worked with him) why didn't he make an exception just this once.
imagine if fives found ahsoka while he was a fugitive, she had met him before on missions and he could explain to her, and she could likely have helped him, i believe things would go VERY differently
@@cooler3613 ok. And I know you were just doing your job. May the Force be with you... and remember 1 thing: you are a clone, not a droid. you be you. don't let anyone else control you... just don't get caught however. that would be very bad
Anakin: I'll get back at you later you little shit! Vader: *snaps Fox's neck at the jedi temple* I love how even Fox jumps at that and felt fear.. the same fear he was feeling when confronting Vader shaking..
@@mirzahamzabaig5667 Yeah, but a Commander should not be afraid of his Commanding Officer, considering he only followed his orders. But then again, Clones have be 'decommissioned' for less right? Must have been terrifying.
@@bradyweather3998 he was probably ordered to KILL him. Also, would you stun a person with gun? No, you wouldn't. You would shoot him to death, because instincts.
So sorry I’m late! I accidentally turned all of my TH-cam notifications off! Thank you so much for this video!!!! This was exactly what I was hoping for. You pointed out the facts of Fives’ death, and seemed to subtly state that it wasn’t Fox’s fault. He catches so much flak for protecting his brothers, but I love him. Fox’s death makes me so mad. He was cheated by everyone’s hatred for him and the writers apparently thought they would appease the majority of the fans instead of explaining what happened from Fox’s POV. I’ll miss him.😞 Also, the credentials shown before the bombing on Coruscant WERE authentic because they were provided by Palpatine himself. Again, that doesn’t fall on Fox. A lot of people call him stupid for that, but there’s nothing stupid about correctly vetting real credentials. He wasn’t unintelligent in any way, there’s a reason his name is Fox.
@@cullected7496 And you are clearly another fan of the truth and one of the greatest commanders of his day, so the feeling's mutual! Thank you! (Edited for grammar)
It's funny how in the first scene of the video he could kill all of them like nothing but Fox was like "whatever, I have my orders". It's this moment where you see how mindless clone troopers actually were. However cool they are.
Don't forget that During the Battle of Courcaunt Fox was no doubt protecting Thousands from droids and probably would have kept Palpatine from being captured by Grievous had Palpatine not be trying to get captured in the first place.
I mean I'm neutral towards Fox. His most hated actions are justified. When he chased Ahsoka what he knew is: 1. She looked like if she was choking Leta. He didn't blame her but he had to arrest her. 2. Then he sees her outside her cell, with lightsabers and all guards down. Who in this scenario would've thought: "Person suspected of bombing Jedi temple is out of her cell with lightsabers and all guards are down. Probably someone is framing her." This makes no sense. Fox logically assumed Ahsoka was guilty because the facts pointed towards it. Then we have the Fives confrontation. Let's look at that. Fox comes down with direct orders. In his mind what's gonna happen is that he will tell Fives to stand down and he will do just that. People say he could've set for stun, he couldn't. Clones normally have their guns set to kill. Fox thought that he won't even have to shoot as Fives will surrender. But then while he's running towards Fives he draws a gun. Fox has no time to switch to stun. If he won't act quickly he will die. He does what Han Solo did. SHOOTS FIRST. He had no time to switch. This was a life or death situation. Fox did what probably anyone would do in his situation. SURVIVE. Also, Fox didn't have the knowledge we as an audience have. What we see: A clone hero who's trying to save the Jedi. Fox sees as Clone trooper who acts mad, tried to assassinate the chancellor (who he didn't know to be the bad guy), and has hostages raising his gun at him. His reaction is justified by his knowledge and lack of time to prepare. If Fox knew Fives will try to fight he'd probably set for stun. Ps: He's also got one of the coolest looking armor.
I felt bad for Fox. He was just doing his job and he didn't know Fives wasn't a threat. Plus, Fives pointed a gun at him and his men and he felt terrible for shooting him. Fox later got killed because his men panicked and started shooting at Vader in a fight with a Jedi. Vader killed him for not providing his men a description of Vader which I think is a little unfair. Vader is a 7 foot tall monster of a men in black leather. You would think the Clone Troopers would have been spreading his description without orders. I mean, that's one hell of an unusual sight. Even clone troopers would start gossiping about some random BDSM enthusiast that started giving them orders.
Look all of you. I don't think there should be anyone hating each other on this concern. The writers had to do it so order 66 and all that other stuff could still occur. Bc I'm very sure that if the writers had the chance they wouldn't make fox kill fives.
People give fox a lot of hate, I see that. Fox was my first favourite clone cause he was that one clone that slid over the table to arrest Ziro in the clone wars movie.
Commander Fox is definitely the clone I pity the most. He is the perfect example of being on the wrong side of the plot, without actually being on the wrong side. Luckily, what Canon lacks, Fanon can readily provide. Which is why I would like to recommend these stories about Commander Fox over on AO3. Shereshoy (by Nutella531) Without a light I fear that I will stumble in the dark (by silvermoongirl10) Perception (by amukmuk) The colonel and the margravine of Örtö (by countessofbuiscuit). Three of these are also Foxiyo-centric, and I apologise if that's not your thing, but I'm a hopeless romantic. If you just want fics with a more likeable CC-1010 | Fox, I recommend the tag "Good Friend CC-1010 | Fox" (this tag might also appear as "CC-1010 | Fox is a Good Bro").
@@redschadow4887 same I really liked him, he was hated because he didn't understand the Jedi because he didn't work with them and so he didn't understand Anakins attachment to Ashoka.
Jason Keane I understand attachment. I care about the Coruscant Guard more than anything. Also, remember: I didn’t want to arrest Commander Ahsoka Tano; i had no choice. Same with letting Anakin in.
Fox is completely the best clone ever. His loyalty to the republic and then empire is amazing, and a loyal clone who follows orders is always a good one. Besides, him ordering to fire on Ahsoka was absolutely epic.
3:09 He didn't even see Ashoka may have killed three clones yet! He just blazed around the corner trying to kill her when he could have at least tried to stun her
@@ondrejmalek3688 and also the stun blast wouldn’t knock him out immediately so there would’ve been a good chance his blaster went off and killed someone. In a real world situation imagine that someone is holding a highly decorated general hostage and police rush in. The person holding them hostage picks up a gun. Do the cops use a taser or shoot to kill?
I honestly think fox gets too much shade thrown at him in every video. People say he’s always by the books but that’s justified considering he’s the commander of the corusant guard which is primarily in charge of the planet’s security. There’s no room for error in Fox’s job which is why he’s not like the other clone commanders and sticks to the book. When Anakin was pissed off at him for not letting him in to see his padawan Fox clearly stated that Tarkin was in command and no Jedi were allowed to interfere which makes sense. When Fox killed fives I believe it was palpatine who gave fox the order to kill fives so he could still execute order 66 and establish his galactic empire.
Damn, Fox had a whole damn life filled with memories, and Vader snapped the dude’s neck without a second thought, it really shows how ruthless Darth Vader is…
"I think Fox is kind of cool." "Nooooo! You can't like Fox! He arrestesd Ashoka and killed Fives!" Seriously people, grow up! Fox had every right to shoot Fives! And don't give me that he could have stunned him crap, Fives didn't have his pistol set to stun and probably could have dropped Fox and a few other guards before the other guards shot him to death! And it's not like Fox killed Fives in cold blood, he told Fives to stand down and warned him not to grab that gun! Thorn or Thire would be just as hated if they were in Fox's position! But y'all are sucking off Thorn so hard you probably didn't think about it! If Fox had gone down fighting like Thorn, all of you would think he was awesome! Also, Fox arrested Ashoka because all he saw was a prisoner being strangled and it looked like Ashoka was doing it! Since the audio was cut out on the cell cameras, there was no way to prove that she didn't do it! When Anakin came to see Ahsoka later, Fox was given specific orders not to let anyone in! Overall, Fox is a good solider and Commander, but everyone just hates him because of the things he has done. I don't like that Fives had to die, but he should have stood down when Fox told him to!
Indeed, and although Fox isn’t exactly my favorite clone, I despise all of the undeserved hate he got for just trying to do what any good soldier would.
I don't care if we like him, in the universe Fives was nothing but an Arc trooper, he should have died because of his crimes, his crimes were considered treason, so he should have died.
I don't think that fox deserves the hate he gets. Everyone always just says that "Fox just runs in and shoots Fives" But if you watch the episode, when Fox runs in on Fives he actually warns Fives and he shoots him only when Fives pulls a gun on him and his men. Furthermore in the real world when a suspect pulls a gun on a group of police officers the officers would shoot to kill rather than stun the suspect. Be honest if a dangerous fugitive pulls a gun on you and your men you would kill him to. The reason why Fox is hated is that people don't look at the situation he is in with context and instead they just run their mouths without even thinking logically. And i'm not saying this because i don't like Fives in fact Fives was one of my favorite character in the series I just think that the people that hate Fox refuse to look at the situation logically or from Fox's point of view. (also fox didn't know the full story and was only told that Fives was a dangerous fugitive).
Fox is one of my favorites. Armor is cool as hell. He followed the law and executed nearly every assignment with perfection. Did he make decisions that led to awful consequences, yes; but that doesn’t change the fact that when you do the same routine every day and that you have to do it multiple times, your only task in your mind is to get it done as quickly and as efficiently as possible. The Coruscant Guard was basically a police force. That is why they acted differently than the rest of the clones.
I believe the song itself is an excerpt from a song called “the force suite” but this version seems to be different from the original that played in the original movies.
People say that oh fox could've stunned but what if fives shot rex or anikain also gives was pointing a gun if someone is pointing a gun at you, you match lethal force with lethal force
Drew Cook us military or police do not use stun with lethal force. you know nothing of military or fire arms. fucking legit fives was going to shoot fox
I love this video bc it actually defends fox killing fives Fives is my favorite clone but everyone hates him bc he killed fives but fives tried to kill him
I believe it was not Fox’s fault. As everything that happened he did bad was by the orders of Palpatine. He ordered him to kill fives and shoot to kill ahsoka
Well Fox already told Fives to stand down but Fives didnt listen and grabbed Rex's pistol and aimed at Fox and his squad and if I'm in Fox's position my initial instinct is to kill Fives cause as a clone who didnt know doesn't know the truth I would have no hesitation in killing Fives cause Fives almost killed Chancellor Palatine and as a clueless clone I would be on the Chancellor's side so it would be perfectly normal for liking Fox
Fox literally gets more hate for shooting Fives in self defense than Dogma gets for actually *ordering a squad to execute Fives.*
Thats unfair dude.
Fox was armed with a DC17 blaster pistol. The DC17 has a stun mode. He should have switched to stun instead of unnecessarily killing him.
You have a good point! Yes Dogma. Umbara. Disgrace. And all *without a functioning chip.*
Indeed, and
From the ground perspective, it seemed that Ashoka was force choking letta, and had chopped up some troopers.
Number dos
Fives was extremely unstable, he pointed a DC 15s at the chancellor, and wrestled away his guards, he trapped a general and a captain inside a ray shield, when commander fox told him to get on his knees, repeated saying don’t do it trooper Fives goes for the blaster pistol, on the clone home world, held a gun to one of its chief scientists and knocked out several troopers. All this would be guilty of treason and death. (Espically due to the reason he really doesn’t have any rights as a clone trooper)
I mean seriously, you point a gun at the President of the United States, and then hold hostage an integral research, a general, an army captain, and he points a gun at you despite being ordered to stop wouldn’t you shoot him too? Plus, Fox has no emotional attachment to fives.
I’m just as much of a fan of fives as the next guy, but it was due to his instability that made him do rash decisions, like going for the pistol despite being told not to.
Also, I don’t see a lot of evidence of Palatine’s directly ordering Fox to kill fives, it looks like palpatine’s just wanted to be aware where to fugitive was.. If you do gimme a time stamp or a video.
@@clankers8929 you have a great point
Commander fox facts: He was the clone who killed fives in one of the last episodes of season 6, and he was also Palpatines personal favorite clone out of the entire clone army.
Well it wasn't really the last episode but still near the end of season 6 tho
If I’m correct I also believe Fox had direct contact with Palpatine also.
@@yusufahmad7480 He did, which made him more hated because he actually knew most of his plans
Enderkill777 He should’ve had his neck snapped a long time ago.
Actually, Thire became his favorite. Though he appreciated all of the Coruscant Guard.
Reasons why fox is hated:
1. Killing fives
Sergeant Sinker, asshole? I never did anything assholic. I only followed orders from the douches that outranked me. Hate them, not me.
@@cooler3613 you are right
Yung Blicky after Vader kills fox so Thire take his place as replacement if Vader did promote Thire
Did palpatine sensed fox was killed by Vader
Yung Blicky so commander Thire is taking commander fox’s place as replacement after Vader kills fox in the comic does Palpatine senses fox’s death
KlipsFilms Melbourne I promoted Thire after he graduated the ARC Training program.
Despite the fact that he killed Fives, I would say that Fox is actually pretty cool. I mean, he's one of the most loyal Clone troopers ever.
Good soldiers follow orders
@@LucyWest370 I find that offensive
Yes
@@lxd_4 Good soldiers follow orders.
@@lxd_4 good soldiers follow orders
Fun fact. His phase 1 action figure was one of the rarest Star Wars The Clone Wars action figure toy.
Woah
It's the only one i ever got , so i always kind of loved Fox because of that , and his armour looks great :P
He just followed orders .
That's interesting. I really don't collect action figures, but I do collect LEGOs, and ironically enough the one LEGO minifig of Commander Fox is also quite rare and expensive. He just can't catch a break!
2 things:
Anakin ended up killing fox (As Vader) revenge kinda
He coulda stunned fives instead of killing him
Palpetine had likely given Fox orders to shoot to kill. Fives was too dangerous to be kept alive in Palpetine's eyes after learning the truth about the biochips. And as Fox had more respect for the Senate and Chancellor than the Jedi, he carried out the order without hesitation, even if he did remove his helmet to show Fives proper respect. Gonna be honest, the fact he paid respect to Fives shows he still had some level of brotherhood to the Clones on the front lines, and may have actually regretted taking the life of one of his brothers, even if he didn't even hesitate to fire a killshot rather than stunning him.
Nero Redwolf,
Fox: *Gets lots of hate from everyone*
Palpatine: *Hides behind a tree*
Number Code lol.
Danny Nelson, remember, Anakin sided with Palpatine during that discussion with Fives. He couldn’t have cared less about him once he became Vader.
Danny Nelson so Thire take fox’s place as replacement after Vader kills fox in the comic
Fox’s last words were a perfect fit for him, “I didn’t think.”
Yeety Diamond Fives pointed a gun at him, and had hostages. How was he in the wrong?
Yeety Diamond Fives was the one who did a stupid a55 thing. Fox was just following orders, you can’t call him stupid.
Yeety Diamond
Fives was stupid enough to think that he could take out Commander Fox and multiple Shocktroopers. Idiot I say, but he wasn’t right in the mind at that time, so I forgive him.
Yeety Diamond But Palpatine gave him the order to shoot and kill fives homie. He respected his supierors more than Fives.
If you follow orders without questioning what they entail, then you're stupid.
I can never understand why Fox is hated so much and here’s why:
1. He’s kind’ve a badass considering he and a small squad of troopers saved Padme’s life from ZIRO the Space Pimp. He also has some of the best armor in my opinion second only to Gree’s phase two.
2. Fox helped save the lives of a half dozen senators including Padme again when he let the Bounty Hunters go instead of risking the Senators’ lives by engaging in a fire fight.
3. Sure, pointing the “cleaner” droids in the direction of the generator room was stupid of Fox to do, but there have been clones who have made worse mistakes. Ex: Trauma for charging at Opress without firing a shot, that 212th clone that charged at Pong Krell, those three ARF troopers who blindly ran into enemy fire in their AT-RTs and were killed in the Clone Wars movie, Commander Gree for not requested backup on a ship full of clones when a traitor was discovered, and so on...
4. If Fox let Ahsoka go after she seemed to have killed the criminal in the fifth season just on a hunch that Ahsoka was innocent, that would’ve been stupid of him to do and against procedure for that situation.
5. Yes, we all miss Fives and hate the fact that Fox killed him, but that’s no reason to hate Fox! Take a step into Fox’s shoes for a second... news breaks out to the Courusant guard that a lunatic clone has just attempted to assassinate the Chancellor and has battered two of Fox’s men. Later, Fives is discovered to be near a hangar, a place where runaway clones would usually go to get off-world. The Courusant guard responds to the scene with little info of what’s actually going on. Fox turns a corner to see the delinquent clone holding a clone captain and a JEDI KNIGHT hostage! Fox points a gun at Fives and orders him to, “Get on your knees!” Instead of complying, Fives pulls a gun on an entire squad of troopers, thus risking the lives of Fox and his men. In a split second, Fox shoots Fives dead before Fives could’ve potentially killed someone. Fox was given no choice by Fives but to kill him in that instant the moment Fives stupidly aimed a pistol at him. And before you argue that Fox could’ve switched to stun, Rex killed 3-4 of his own men in season seven of the Clone Wars in order to save Ahsoka’s life without switching to stun! So I guess Rex gets a pass but Fox doesn’t after killing four times the amount of clones? Also, how is threatening to stun someone supposed to be taken seriously by a crazy man? Wouldn’t the fear of getting shot be much more effective in an arrest than just stunning someone? In the words of Rick from Rick and Morty, “How is ‘knocking out’ a deterrent? Everyone wants to get knocked out, no one wants to die.” In short, Fox shouldn’t be hated so much because, “Good soldiers follow orders.”
I wouldn't even say that you can blame Fox for the generator droids reaching their target. Yeah, he pointed the bombers towards the target, but they certainly already knew the direction. Not to mention, they had already gotten on *Coruscant*, the Republic's Capitol. How many countless other people had to have screwed up or failed at their jobs for that to happen? Seriously, all of the intelligence guys at the GAR Headquarters should be fired for never even detecting the possiblity of the attack, Fox can't be blamed for manning a single checkpoint that they happened to get through.
Great Angel, yeah, you’re right about the fact that Fox wasn’t the one who made the worst mistake in that situation. Some people like to argue that droids don’t make mistakes and Fox should’ve found it suspicious that the droids didn’t go straight to the generator. But have the people who make that argument seen the droids in Star Wars? Star Wars droids for the most part are dumb as hell.
Thank you for pointing these out. I really don't hate Fox. Like all the others he was stuffed into his role.
Exactly
That was beautiful
Fox doesn’t deserve all the hate he gets. He is a good soldier, he follows orders, he’s a great commander, he doesn’t hesitate to kill someone to prevent more losses or chaos on Coruscant. He arrested Ashoka because it was the most logical thing to do, she was a suspect, the only one in the room when Leda died. She also seemed to be force choking her (in which she wasn’t), but Fox didn’t take any chances, as would any good soldier. When he told his men shoot to kill Ashoka, he did the proper thing. The exact time she got her lightsabers back, troopers in her path had died or been injured by a lightsaber. When Fives was killed, it is debatable. Yes, he should’ve stunned Fives, BUT, Fox gave Fives a chance to surrender, in which Fives turned a blaster pistol on them. Fives was threatening the lives of Fox, and Fox’s men. There is also a theory that Fox was ordered shoot-to-Kill by Palpatine had he not surrendered. I think Fox should’ve used stun, although I do think he doesn’t deserve all this hate.
Noobmaster69 exactly, he really doesn’t deserve the hate he gets and to add to his reason of killing fives, fives I believe was said to be dangerous so putting it on kill was extract precaution too
Exactly
John Salonga Nah, I’m just speaking my voice. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen you on other comments saying,
No shut up
Shut up
You’re stupid
You’re wrong
Etc
If that is really all you do with your life that’s sad.
Anyways, I’m just saying what I believe and facts.
And I’m not trying to start conflict, so I hope you don’t either.
Noobmaster69 seriously though. All those clone fanboys hating on him for killing fives (when frankly, fives kind of deserved it). It’s not like the show creators were just going to let fives stop the events of RoTS from happening. My favorite character is Grievous, but I don’t absolutely despise Obi-Wan for being the one to kill him. Absolute bollocks.
The armor of commander fox is very nice.
Just armor..
Dark Wolf I too have the same opinion
Thanks.
Sorry i forgot a m.
I think you make no mistake in this life...
I edited now
Better?
Fucking stormtrooper.
Dark Wolf what the???
Dark Wolf unm???? niccce? insult i guess??? you really got him?....reaaal good one there?😂😂 more like fucking nerd, what a lame insult
It was never Fox’ fault for killing Fives.
It was Sheev Palpatine
Who wanted him dead.
Yeah,Fox had to follow his orders he had no choice.
If i were him i would have been more interested in the case, and would've stunned him, and then questioned him.
DustyHoser fox saw the situation as a guy pulled a gun on him and his boys after attempting to kill the chancellor and keeping a clone captain and Jedi Knight hostage. He had already warned him and to a crazy man, stunning isn’t a deterrent.
I mean fox didnt even care about his brother fives
Yeah but he held the blaster.
Everyone who says Fox should’ve switched to stun seems to have forgotten about a famous scene in the original Star Wars movie. When the stormtroopers found Leia, a sergeant told his men to set to stun, and while they were fiddling around with their guns, Leia shot and killed the sergeant, who happened to be a friend of the trooper who stunned Leia. The troopers wanted to kill Leia since she was obviously holding a gun, but Vader unfortunately gave them strict orders to take her alive. Fives’ situation was the same as Leia’s but the Chancellor obviously ordered his men to use lethal force if necessary.
I hope this comment gets on first
Palpatine probably told fox to shoot to kill not to mention fives was drugged so he was not thinking straight
The point is to show just how much of a servant he was. He was essentially a human Droid. Never thinking for himself. He could've made the conscious choice to spare his brother but he blindly followed instructions.
@@jcore0981 So say you were in Fox’s shoes. You’re told that a special forces soldier has just captured a fucking Jedi and a clone captain and is holding them hostage. You spin around the corner to arrest the soldier and the clone you’ve never met in your life before points a gun directly at you and the squad mates you’ve likely served with for years prior. Are you telling me you wouldn’t drop his ass if he did the same to you? Keep in mind, stun shots are slow af and Fives has even been shown to have ability to dodge them with ease.
@@jcore0981 And as a cherry on top, what’s to say that Fives’ gun wasn’t on stun? The scene never showed Fives switching to stun, which means that Fives was threatening the lives of everyone in the room. Imagine if Fox or one of his soldiers fired a stun shot, the supposedly crazy Fives dodges it, and opens fire on the squad with deadly rounds. That’s a risk Fox couldn’t take the moment Fives decided to point a loaded gun at a squad of Military Policemen.
The most misunderstood clone
CT-7427 Flint you could say that again
CT-7427 Flint yeah undoubtedly
Or just a stupid clone
Sorry he just killed fives
Henry Ivey Sorry but that was direct orders from palpatine so sorry if you hate a clone who does their job right
We can blame Palpatine for Five’s death.
He frucking drugged him which pretty much drove him mad
Nala Se is to blame heavily as well. Never trust a Kaminoan.
“Our clone of the week is Commander Fo-“
*Commander Doom* “Hold it right their!”
Do you still play battlefront on xbox ? CUZ I DO ...
I do
I do
Wut're u doin here? I've seen you on Dutch the hooigan
Yes me
Genuinely didn't expect to see you here
I actually like Fox. I mean, yeah, Fives’ death was sad, but honestly look at Foxes sick armor paint and he’s got a lit personality. 10/10 would watch a series about him.
He deserves respect
Martin Sakmáry For real. He’s probably one of the best/most efficient anyways for not hesitating
@@rustymilkshake2381 indeed
Finally some like minded people. Also Fives’ death is the fault of Nala Se and Palpatine. He was drugged to oblivion first of all, scared out of his mind by Palps and Fox didn’t really have any say in the matter. Switching to stun would’ve taken too long, in that time Fives could’ve killed him and his bro’s. Also Fox might’ve been mind or chip controlled by evil Sheev.
Yes I would watch it especially if we get to see thorn and stone again
I love him so much. He was treated so badly because he was trying to do his duty and was manipulated by Friendpatine.
Yea also he shot only when fives picked up a lethal weapon and pointed it at him. Thats reason enough to shoot anyway. Cops in real life operate that way. Pull out a gun or even a knife and a cop will not hesitate to shoot. Fox was being kind really.
I just realized that you've now done all of the Coruscant Guard Commanders except Stone.
Please do Stone next!
Me: *Sees your pfp and username*
_The Court accuses you of Galaxy-Wide Asshole behavior and sentences you to be shot._
@@TheDailyBugleJ3 nice reference
And Hasbro didn’t paint his helmet right
Nusret Alp Yüceyavuz really?
RCT-CommanderFox well I bet it’s ur happy month now
@@_FarEastStar You bet. The awesome new figure plus Commander Fox day last Thursday.
That is called REVENGE
Did he deserve to get it right?
Plz do Commando-62 from Delta squad 🐺
who was that again 😅
@@kytexgd1463 the weapons specialist in Star Wars the Clone Commando's video game
Personally I like Delta-07 more (Sev)
FIFER 1 NINER FIFER OF SCOTLAND oh yo mean Scorch?
@@kytexgd1463 yes
Commander Fox is underrated, and one of the best clones ever, change my mind
Agreed
@Brian Martinez Lopez Fox was absolutely in the right to shoot Fives. For all Fox knew, Fives, a rogue ARC Trooper designed and trained to kill literally hundreds of opponents on the battlefield, had taken one of the most prolific Jedi Generals *and* his Legion's commanding officer hostage, after having just assaulted the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic in a time of war. Fox even went so far as commanding Fives to drop his gun. Once Fives aimed at Fox and his men, Fox had the choice of taking the time to switch to stun, during which time Fives could shoot, and hope that Fives doesn't seize up when stunned and have the blaster go off anyways, or neutralize the threat to himself, his men, and the hostages. It's tragic, but Fives was so manic at that point that he was beyond reason, and Fox had no other choice.
@@willtiffany5409 While I do agree fox couldn't have done nothing, reasonably he should have already had his weapon on stun, correct?
@@bluehat3673 I do not believe so, no. They went into that situation with hostages involved, it should've been their top priority to keep them alive, which includes neutralizing threats to the hostages. Neutralizing is obviously subjective, be it eliminating the hostage takers outright or just stunning them, but we've seen the Coruscant Guard go in without weapons on stun before, such as during the rescue of Senator Amidala (which I'm sure you know Fox also led). This leads me to believe that it's either the Coruscant Guard's policy to assume every situation is going to turn hostile, and to be prepared for that by having weapons on lethal setting (or at the very least be ready to put a target down when the need arises, such as during the prison riot during Kenobi's Undercover Arc). Either that, or it's an operational choice made by Fox himself. If it's the former, and it's the Guard's policy to be ready to kill at any time (which, to be fair, they *are* policing Coruscant of all places, so I don't believe that's unreasonable) then Fox shouldn't be held accountable for that if he can't change that policy. If it's the latter, and Fox decided to just go in there with weapons toggled to lethal, then I still believe he was in the right to shoot Fives, given the situation and Fives' state.
@@willtiffany5409 well goddamn
Commander fox and the corasaunt guard are my favorite clones. Please let me live
@@randomizerteleviewage307 me one year ago can, my favorites have shifted a lot since
High five bro
“Good soldiers follow orders”-Tup
"Good soldiers follow orders"-Tup under mind control
@@captainclueless3074 "Good soldiers follow orders"- Crosshair under mind control
I personally really like Fox because I find that he’s very brave and that he’s not scared to confront Anakin Skywalker
He’s brave and loyal.
Agreed
it makes 100% sense that he would kill him. he asked him to stop twice
Ry Garant and then fives pulled a gun on him
@@friendlydispatch6283 the blaster had a stun mode.
Mr Barber Fives is a heavily trained elite troop who attempted the assassination of the Chancellor, I think Fives would have killed Fox if he set it to stun. Fives was about to pull the trigger would Fox shot, stun shots are shown to be much slower that normal bolts so Fox probably would have been killed.
@@basiosrasian225 he was very close to fives so it wouldn’t have been as slow. Also fives probably wouldn’t kill his own brother without hesitating for a few seconds allowing fox to stun him in time
@@LazyCCPYeah I agree, Fives probably wouldn’t have killed Fox. But Fox doesn’t know that, from his perspective he is ordered to capture or kill a rogue clone who has almost killed the Chancellor. When Fox arrived on the scene Fives is yelling at Rex and Anakin about microchips while he has them in ray shield. Stuns would have been still been slower then a normal shot. Also my memory of this arc is a bit blurry but didn’t Palpatine order him to kill Fives anyway? What really annoys me about the Fox hate is that people think Fox was unique In the fact the he would have killed Fives. While in reality pretty much every single clone would have. Post note: I know the perverse comment says I think Fives would have killed Fox but that was made a year ago, so I don’t agree with that anymore.
Fox was one of my favourite Clones. I think he had an idea of Palpatine being more than what he let on
Probably, but he might’ve been controlled. There’s 1. Chip and 2. Sith mind tricks. Sheev was legit one hell of a powerful sith. I doubt Fox had any choice in, well, anything
I mean I’m pretty sure 1. He was palpatines favourite clone and 2. Had a comms link straight to palpatine so yeah
Thank you for trying to defend me in some form Wolffe. At least there is another clone who recognizes that I gave a chance for Fives to stand down....I didn’t want to kill one of my brothers.
This just makes no sense now
Uhh maybe you should change too Fox XD
@@Mylifekindafucked Yeah
Fox died by Vader when he pissed him off in a gunship
I hate Fox for killing fives
wdym?! I am still alive! (obviously my account is made in the name of Fives, I am so happy Ana-I mean Vader, killed Fox, personally I would have killed him in a much more painful way but still glad anyways)
@@fivezedits2486 same
I would have force choked him
Instead vader snapped his neck
5IV3Z, what a guy. You know I saved him from a fate far worse than death, right? What Palpatine would’ve done to him would’ve been way worse than a single, relatively painless, shot to the chest. I didn’t want to shoot. I even disobeyed a direct order from the Chancellor and gave him four chances to stand down.
Same
RCT-CommanderFox Lmao, Rex and Anakin wouldn’t have allowed it, they would have let the clone speak, but because Fox was stupid and rushed an unarmed and very mentally unstable man, Fox took part in the murder of billions of people.
Fox is so underrated.
People think he is a douche, but in reality, he is a victim of Palpatines plans while thinking he is helping the republic because he is that loyal. People hate him for killing fives, however, fives was a wanted fugitive for assaulting the chancellor, so even if fives surrendered calmly or fox stunned him, fives would still be executed, so fox saved him, from a certain point of view. Too bad his men's incompetence got him killed
Personally, I liked Fox. Yeah, he killed Fives, but we ultimately knew Fives was going to fail, because order 66 still happened.
Thank you
Why are ppl hating on you he did noihin weong
@JUAN ESTEBAN BELTRÁN RAMÍREZ-Alumno 🤦♂️
TheRedDeath yeah even if he failed or succeeded no one cares he still killed one of are favorite characters.
Because he died
Just because fox is very loyal for what he believed in and was a great soldier, he was my favorite
Every time i see the part when Anakin points to fox and fox jolts his head back i laugh a little
0:24
He’s like: OH SHIT!
He flinched. Must have been intimidated by Anakin. Made me chuckle as well! Commander Fox knew Skywalker (worked with him) why didn't he make an exception just this once.
Maybe because Anakin looked like a damn Sith in that moment.
Bro could’ve been traumatised by Palpatine already. Also, that head tilt is kinda cute.
Great vid
Could you do Jedi of the week unless you have done it already
I really don’t understand the extreme level of hate everyone has for this guy
Thing: Exists
Commander Fox: And I took that personally
Yes!!! Finally Commander Fox I could kiss you man I'm speaking metaphorically. Because Commander Fox is my favorite Clone Trooper up all time
Seto Kaiba he is the most loyal solider I have ever seen
Seto Kaiba. Now we are two. He is my favorite too. Lawful, Disiplined and completely loyal to the supreme Chancellor and later our glorious Emperor.
Thanks guys!
Gary The Stormtrooper, Cody and I are pretty good friends. I too agree he is an amazing and loyal soldier.
@@viloinvictus would commander cody shoot his own because someone ordered him to do it?
imagine if fives found ahsoka while he was a fugitive, she had met him before on missions and he could explain to her, and she could likely have helped him, i believe things would go VERY differently
If he's still alive, he's probably sorry to all Jedi. Including Ahsoka.
Nope, Vader snapped his neck shortly after order 66 I. Coruscant after his men fired on Vader thinking he was a Jedi
@@notcartel1521 but do you think he IS sorry for all of the Jedi
Tyler Beck, I felt terrible for what happened to the Jedi.
@@cooler3613 ok. And I know you were just doing your job. May the Force be with you... and remember 1 thing: you are a clone, not a droid. you be you. don't let anyone else control you... just don't get caught however. that would be very bad
RCT-CommanderFox shut up you nasty ass roleplayer something is legit wrong with you
Commander Fox is my favorite Commander all-time I love him he's the best he comes in time and Saves the Day
Storyteller of the week WoofWoofWolffe
0:36 anikin looks terrifing
Anakin: I'll get back at you later you little shit!
Vader: *snaps Fox's neck at the jedi temple*
I love how even Fox jumps at that and felt fear.. the same fear he was feeling when confronting Vader shaking..
@@mirzahamzabaig5667 Yeah, but a Commander should not be afraid of his Commanding Officer, considering he only followed his orders. But then again, Clones have be 'decommissioned' for less right? Must have been terrifying.
Lucifer poor fox
Fox: *just doing his job*
Everyone: So you have chosen death
Me: 🤦♂️
Timur 56255 he could have stund fives
@@bradyweather3998 🤷🏽♂️
Timur 56255 stunned him sorry for the bad spelling
@@bradyweather3998 he was probably ordered to KILL him. Also, would you stun a person with gun? No, you wouldn't. You would shoot him to death, because instincts.
Timur 56255 well what about the Ahsoka ark where he thought she killed clones but he still told them to stun her
NGL it’s kinda badass how fox just stands up to anikan with little fear.
So sorry I’m late! I accidentally turned all of my TH-cam notifications off!
Thank you so much for this video!!!! This was exactly what I was hoping for. You pointed out the facts of Fives’ death, and seemed to subtly state that it wasn’t Fox’s fault. He catches so much flak for protecting his brothers, but I love him. Fox’s death makes me so mad. He was cheated by everyone’s hatred for him and the writers apparently thought they would appease the majority of the fans instead of explaining what happened from Fox’s POV. I’ll miss him.😞
Also, the credentials shown before the bombing on Coruscant WERE authentic because they were provided by Palpatine himself. Again, that doesn’t fall on Fox. A lot of people call him stupid for that, but there’s nothing stupid about correctly vetting real credentials. He wasn’t unintelligent in any way, there’s a reason his name is Fox.
you are defending commander fox, i love you
@@cullected7496 And you are clearly another fan of the truth and one of the greatest commanders of his day, so the feeling's mutual! Thank you!
(Edited for grammar)
THX FOR DEFENDING FOX ❤️❤️
@@Mylifekindafucked OFC
Finally Commander Fox ❤️❤️ Thank you so much 🔥🔥
He deserved a better death than the one he got. He's one of my favourite clones.
It's funny how in the first scene of the video he could kill all of them like nothing but Fox was like "whatever, I have my orders". It's this moment where you see how mindless clone troopers actually were. However cool they are.
Commander Bacara as next clone of the week
General Nova the video would only be 1 minute long xD
@@viloinvictus I don't think this series covers legends, because it hasn't done that so far
Fox was another great example of the perfect clone, he never asked questions and was fearless. He was therefore the best clone beside Dogma
Great vid, always liked fox. You should do boost next.
Me to
Same
Those guards activate their electrostaffs as if they think they can take on a visibly irritated jedi
Fox’s biggest flaw was that he was blindly loyal, in addition to being too narrow minded to think past his orders
Don't forget that During the Battle of Courcaunt Fox was no doubt protecting Thousands from droids and probably would have kept Palpatine from being captured by Grievous had Palpatine not be trying to get captured in the first place.
Great video can you please do Commander Ponds next?
Ponds was a boss. We were good friends during training.
I hope we see more Commander Fox in The Bad Batch
Hey I will make it to the landing platform and do matchstick next plz just in case SCMandalorian
I mean I'm neutral towards Fox. His most hated actions are justified. When he chased Ahsoka what he knew is:
1. She looked like if she was choking Leta. He didn't blame her but he had to arrest her.
2. Then he sees her outside her cell, with lightsabers and all guards down. Who in this scenario would've thought: "Person suspected of bombing Jedi temple is out of her cell with lightsabers and all guards are down. Probably someone is framing her."
This makes no sense. Fox logically assumed Ahsoka was guilty because the facts pointed towards it.
Then we have the Fives confrontation. Let's look at that. Fox comes down with direct orders. In his mind what's gonna happen is
that he will tell Fives to stand down and he will do just that. People say he could've set for stun, he couldn't. Clones normally have their guns set to kill. Fox thought that he won't even have to shoot as Fives will surrender. But then while he's running towards Fives he draws a gun. Fox has no time to switch to stun. If he won't act quickly he will die. He does what Han Solo did. SHOOTS FIRST. He had no time to switch. This was a life or death situation. Fox did what probably anyone would do in his situation. SURVIVE. Also, Fox didn't have the knowledge we as an audience have. What we see: A clone hero who's trying to save the Jedi.
Fox sees as Clone trooper who acts mad, tried to assassinate the chancellor (who he didn't know to be the bad guy), and has hostages raising his gun at him. His reaction is justified by his knowledge and lack of time to prepare. If Fox knew Fives will try to fight he'd probably set for stun.
Ps: He's also got one of the coolest looking armor.
What about that one 212th battalion trooper who solo took town a crab droid
fox was only following orders
We’re supposed to blame palpatine for ordering him
Fox needs more love I love him personally but my fav has to be neo and I really wanna see more of him
Neo?
I felt bad for Fox. He was just doing his job and he didn't know Fives wasn't a threat. Plus, Fives pointed a gun at him and his men and he felt terrible for shooting him. Fox later got killed because his men panicked and started shooting at Vader in a fight with a Jedi. Vader killed him for not providing his men a description of Vader which I think is a little unfair. Vader is a 7 foot tall monster of a men in black leather. You would think the Clone Troopers would have been spreading his description without orders. I mean, that's one hell of an unusual sight. Even clone troopers would start gossiping about some random BDSM enthusiast that started giving them orders.
We need to be better to fox. After all he's just doing his job. And efficient if he refuses to go against orders.
Lil Weaver he could have stunned fives
JORDAN MUNTER ya well no one likes fox so you deal with it
JORDAN MUNTER cause I enjoy his videos
i hate fox he could of just stunned fives
Look all of you. I don't think there should be anyone hating each other on this concern. The writers had to do it so order 66 and all that other stuff could still occur. Bc I'm very sure that if the writers had the chance they wouldn't make fox kill fives.
People give fox a lot of hate, I see that. Fox was my first favourite clone cause he was that one clone that slid over the table to arrest Ziro in the clone wars movie.
Great video as usual. There may not be that much about him, but how about Clone Trooper Crys, from the 212th next?
Commander Fox is definitely the clone I pity the most. He is the perfect example of being on the wrong side of the plot, without actually being on the wrong side.
Luckily, what Canon lacks, Fanon can readily provide. Which is why I would like to recommend these stories about Commander Fox over on AO3.
Shereshoy (by Nutella531)
Without a light I fear that I will stumble in the dark (by silvermoongirl10)
Perception (by amukmuk)
The colonel and the margravine of Örtö (by countessofbuiscuit).
Three of these are also Foxiyo-centric, and I apologise if that's not your thing, but I'm a hopeless romantic.
If you just want fics with a more likeable CC-1010 | Fox, I recommend the tag "Good Friend CC-1010 | Fox" (this tag might also appear as "CC-1010 | Fox is a Good Bro").
YES THANK YOU! New Fox fics, byeee I’m gonna hit my bed and binge read these. Also, Foxiyo is def my thing oops. They’re just adorable
Fox gets too much hate
Yes thats what I think to
@@redschadow4887 same I really liked him, he was hated because he didn't understand the Jedi because he didn't work with them and so he didn't understand Anakins attachment to Ashoka.
Jason Keane I understand attachment. I care about the Coruscant Guard more than anything. Also, remember: I didn’t want to arrest Commander Ahsoka Tano; i had no choice. Same with letting Anakin in.
Fox is completely the best clone ever. His loyalty to the republic and then empire is amazing, and a loyal clone who follows orders is always a good one. Besides, him ordering to fire on Ahsoka was absolutely epic.
May you do Commander Ponds?
3:09 He didn't even see Ashoka may have killed three clones yet! He just blazed around the corner trying to kill her when he could have at least tried to stun her
I remember this guy bullying the fellow clones. How uncivilized
When you forget to change you pistol mode to stun and then an entire fan base hates you for eternity. #relatable
Fox didn’t really have a choice to kill fives fives was gonna shoot him so he had to shoot back
He colud've stuned him.
@@ondrejmalek3688 Stun moves slower than kill.
@@sambridgers9543 Ok, but faster than Fives...
@@ondrejmalek3688 and also the stun blast wouldn’t knock him out immediately so there would’ve been a good chance his blaster went off and killed someone.
In a real world situation imagine that someone is holding a highly decorated general hostage and police rush in. The person holding them hostage picks up a gun. Do the cops use a taser or shoot to kill?
@@ondrejmalek3688 Fives literally dodged a stun in the previous episode
I honestly think fox gets too much shade thrown at him in every video. People say he’s always by the books but that’s justified considering he’s the commander of the corusant guard which is primarily in charge of the planet’s security. There’s no room for error in Fox’s job which is why he’s not like the other clone commanders and sticks to the book. When Anakin was pissed off at him for not letting him in to see his padawan Fox clearly stated that Tarkin was in command and no Jedi were allowed to interfere which makes sense. When Fox killed fives I believe it was palpatine who gave fox the order to kill fives so he could still execute order 66 and establish his galactic empire.
Commander fox ? ..... OHH I get it you mean” commander I killed Fives now hate me” Yeah I heard of him
Damn, Fox had a whole damn life filled with memories, and Vader snapped the dude’s neck without a second thought, it really shows how ruthless Darth Vader is…
Good man that Fox
Indeed
He probably got the order to eliminate him from Palpatine himself, not wanting to risk the truth about the chips getting out.
"I think Fox is kind of cool."
"Nooooo! You can't like Fox! He arrestesd Ashoka and killed Fives!"
Seriously people, grow up! Fox had every right to shoot Fives! And don't give me that he could have stunned him crap, Fives didn't have his pistol set to stun and probably could have dropped Fox and a few other guards before the other guards shot him to death! And it's not like Fox killed Fives in cold blood, he told Fives to stand down and warned him not to grab that gun! Thorn or Thire would be just as hated if they were in Fox's position! But y'all are sucking off Thorn so hard you probably didn't think about it! If Fox had gone down fighting like Thorn, all of you would think he was awesome! Also, Fox arrested Ashoka because all he saw was a prisoner being strangled and it looked like Ashoka was doing it! Since the audio was cut out on the cell cameras, there was no way to prove that she didn't do it! When Anakin came to see Ahsoka later, Fox was given specific orders not to let anyone in!
Overall, Fox is a good solider and Commander, but everyone just hates him because of the things he has done. I don't like that Fives had to die, but he should have stood down when Fox told him to!
I'm sad this had no likes
Thank you! My belief on Fox is the same as yours if you sort by new and scroll down to find my comment.
@@cutler_beckett Ah, a fellow believer
Indeed, and although Fox isn’t exactly my favorite clone, I despise all of the undeserved hate he got for just trying to do what any good soldier would.
I don't care if we like him, in the universe Fives was nothing but an Arc trooper, he should have died because of his crimes, his crimes were considered treason, so he should have died.
I don't think that fox deserves the hate he gets. Everyone always just says that "Fox just runs in and shoots Fives" But if you watch the episode, when Fox runs in on Fives he actually warns Fives and he shoots him only when Fives pulls a gun on him and his men. Furthermore in the real world when a suspect pulls a gun on a group of police officers the officers would shoot to kill rather than stun the suspect.
Be honest if a dangerous fugitive pulls a gun on you and your men you would kill him to.
The reason why Fox is hated is that people don't look at the situation he is in with context and instead they just run their mouths without even thinking logically.
And i'm not saying this because i don't like Fives in fact Fives was one of my favorite character in the series I just think that the people that hate Fox refuse to look at the situation logically or from Fox's point of view.
(also fox didn't know the full story and was only told that Fives was a dangerous fugitive).
Fox isn't a bad clone, change my mind
Won’t change your mind cuz I agree with you
Me too!
The crazy thing about Fox is they give him such an evil demeanor yet he's just doing his job.
Commander WOLFFE can u plzz do Arc Trooper Jesse plzz
Hes going to wait for season 7 to finish
I'm pretty sure Jesse is a Lieutenant not an arc Trooper.
In the end, he was just another victim of Vader's temper tantrums, like so many other subordinates who had the misfortune of working with him.
Great video this is one of my favourite channels
Pugs Always win Thank you!
Fox is one of my favorites. Armor is cool as hell. He followed the law and executed nearly every assignment with perfection. Did he make decisions that led to awful consequences, yes; but that doesn’t change the fact that when you do the same routine every day and that you have to do it multiple times, your only task in your mind is to get it done as quickly and as efficiently as possible. The Coruscant Guard was basically a police force. That is why they acted differently than the rest of the clones.
*Fox:* Exists
*SW fans:* I am going to hate you with every fiber of my being
He was a good soldier who became an over agressive, self righteous prick
Everyone hates Fox but no one can argue that he looks pretty cool
Could you do commander ponds or trauma
Fox is my favorite clone commander his name is cool and i love the color on his armor
What’s the music playing in the back at 3:02 I can’t remember it for the life of me
I believe the song itself is an excerpt from a song called “the force suite” but this version seems to be different from the original that played in the original movies.
People say that oh fox could've stunned but what if fives shot rex or anikain also gives was pointing a gun if someone is pointing a gun at you, you match lethal force with lethal force
He was just following orders 😭
He should have used stun
Drew Cook us military or police do not use stun with lethal force. you know nothing of military or fire arms. fucking legit fives was going to shoot fox
Commander fox will be granted the rank of Most hated Clone commander.
I love this video bc it actually defends fox killing fives
Fives is my favorite clone but everyone hates him bc he killed fives but fives tried to kill him
I believe it was not Fox’s fault. As everything that happened he did bad was by the orders of Palpatine. He ordered him to kill fives and shoot to kill ahsoka
Is it bad I love fox despite killing one of my favourite characters?
Well Fox already told Fives to stand down but Fives didnt listen and grabbed Rex's pistol and aimed at Fox and his squad and if I'm in Fox's position my initial instinct is to kill Fives cause as a clone who didnt know doesn't know the truth I would have no hesitation in killing Fives cause Fives almost killed Chancellor Palatine and as a clueless clone I would be on the Chancellor's side so it would be perfectly normal for liking Fox
Commander fox you little ...
Captain Rex he only wanted to do his duty
Basios Rasian fives also
What if fox let Skywalker inside the prison?
I’d have disobeyed an order for someone I really don’t care about or like.
Coruscant guards are trained differently compared to the rest of the GAR, so I don't there was a chance that he'd do that.
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