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  • @JamesPopsysPhoto
    @JamesPopsysPhoto  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    A quick flick through the comments tells me that some people think I've made a sponsored video about the joys of AI. Maybe I should watch the video back, but I tried to explain what the software became known for before going on to talk about how I like to use the product, which is a long way from sky replacements and generative fill etc.
    Anyway points taken onboard, new video next week!

    • @europlatus
      @europlatus 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I don't think you were promoting AI as such, but it doesn't feel much like a James Popsys video. You're known for being authentic and embracing imperfection, yet this video seems to be promoting something that doesn't seem to quite fit with all of that.

    • @clerklymantis4661
      @clerklymantis4661 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@europlatus I was going to say something similar but didn't really know how to put it, so thank you. Yea, the video comes off as weird for me. I'm fine with a sponsorship, but everyone knows sponsorships are ads. But this is like a mix between a sponsorship and a regular video James would make. It's hard to tell if he would actually genuinely endorse it or not, so it comes off as disingenuous. I love James and I don't wanna rag on him, it just left a bad feeling in my stomach.

    • @tomdauben
      @tomdauben 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@europlatus well put, my feelings too. And I have to say, I'm heartened by the comments section that I'm not alone. Sorry James, looking forward to the next video.

    • @Bobby_sprinkles
      @Bobby_sprinkles 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I mean, it's up to us whether we want to hear the sponsor and then use it. The main thing is that it helps you to keep the channel going and doing extra creative things

    • @ourhouseuk
      @ourhouseuk 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bluntly @james the software became known for being beta at best, underperforming, and being generally awful, while conning piles of people into purchase who had machines that literally wouldn’t run it. It may be they have solved many issues, have better quality control, and have improved the level of release, but they burned a tonne of goodwill in version 1-5 at least, if not more, by misrepresenting system requirements, capabilities, and stability.

  • @nremac
    @nremac 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

    couldn't live with myself if I started replacing my skies tbh

    • @23davidian96
      @23davidian96 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Have a day off mate, it's a picture

    • @nremac
      @nremac 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@23davidian96 Clever lol since it's saturday 🤭 you as well!

    • @Vartan297
      @Vartan297 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nremacmust be just me that works most Saturdays then.

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I do like the ability to do so for certain situations. I did a shoot with some drag queens last year where the New Mexico desert sky was flat gray. Since they had dressed up rather fancy, I put in fancy skies for them. They loved it.
      But for landscape photos? I leave my skies alone.

    • @Tom-tz9hi
      @Tom-tz9hi 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@23davidian96 Add stuff that didn't exist and its no longer a picture but digital art - nothing wrong with doing that but can you say "I took this picture" after adding stuff that didn't exist?

  • @photojames
    @photojames 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have been using this for over a year as a cheaper alternative to lightroom, I struggled with lightroom but have learned to edit with neo really fast. Also I have been amazed on how many updates neo has put out since I started to use it. Very impressive program and highly recommended for an amateur photographer.

  • @schoolofmediocrity2801
    @schoolofmediocrity2801 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I may be the odd one here, but I happen to think this video was an honest assessment of Luminar's capabilities. I moved from Photoshop to Luminar last year and, while I don't care for the gimmicky features, I agree with James that basic editing functions are faster in Luminar. I still have Photoshop for about 10% of what I edit, but for 90% of what I do, Luminar just does it faster.
    There is definitely a danger with over processing in Luminar, which I think James demonstrated, but to me that is a user issue, not a software issue.

    • @Bobby_sprinkles
      @Bobby_sprinkles 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This is one of the few measured responses I've seen on here

  • @ballbagbill8199
    @ballbagbill8199 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +145

    James a couple of weeks ago - embrace imperfections in photos.
    James now he’s being paid - use AI to remove power lines.

    • @AmorLucisPhotography
      @AmorLucisPhotography 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      To be fair to James, his comments concerning embracing imperfections were, I thought, self-reflective comments about a shift in his own photography. As best I can recall, he never suggested that anyone else ought to do likewise. His point (paraphrasing from memory) was that he had noticed that he embraces "imperfections" more than he used to, because he feels that it reflects reality more faithfully, and I don't recall him saying that anyone else should follow suit. Similarly, he is showing us some of the things that can be done with Luminat Neo. Nothing suggested that he would remove power lines, for example, or even that we should. Simply, that with this software we can.

    • @ballbagbill8199
      @ballbagbill8199 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      You don’t preach self reflection.

    • @AmorLucisPhotography
      @AmorLucisPhotography 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ballbagbill8199 You really think James was preaching? Or preachy? Can't say I do.

    • @ballbagbill8199
      @ballbagbill8199 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@AmorLucisPhotography you are on a platform (TH-cam) expressing your opinions to a group of people (viewers). That is the very definition of preaching.

    • @JamesChurchilljr
      @JamesChurchilljr 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Why act like a prick when you don’t have to? JP, like everyone else is confronting tech and trying to figure out what it means for his work.

  • @macsprotte1436
    @macsprotte1436 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I agree. In my mind currently the best combination is DxO, for precision and noise, and Luminar Neo for ease of use and fun stuff.

  • @williams1075
    @williams1075 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Luminar has the most aggressive sponsoring of photographers on youtube. I have seen every photographer I follow go from hardcore Adobe users to .... (paraphrasing) Luminar is such a great and easy tool to use. It is what it is, and hopefully it helps some people to edit images. I have to say three things about Luminar a) it is super easy to overprocess images 2) it is easy to fall into their gimicky features 3) it always runs like a dog on my computer. I just have a super hard time taking these sponsored videos seriously, we all have to make a living I guess.

    • @JamesKerwin
      @JamesKerwin 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah it doesn't run smooth on machines at all.

    • @gilcarag274
      @gilcarag274 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Completely agree with you. Very easy to overprocess one’s images !

    • @hoodie3810
      @hoodie3810 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's helpful feedback, especially about how well it runs, I've been looking for a Lightroom alternative ever since Adobe doubled my month-to-month payment and tried to lock me into a 12 month contract with a 50% cancellation fee. Adobe can go to hell tbh.
      Anyway, if those are the main negatives you've noticed I think on balance I'll still give it a go, especially considering the price difference.
      As far as Luminar being more aggressive with advertising, I suspect it's because they have a smaller market share and are competing against a well-entrenched product. Everyone knows Adobe, it's the default editing suite for most people, so they don't have to work as hard for customers.
      Honestly I hope these alternatives take enough of the market share that Adobe stops being such greedy a**hats and actually starts delivering quality service at reasonable prices again.

    • @Ash1955
      @Ash1955 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JamesKerwin it works fine on my PC

  • @tjsinva
    @tjsinva 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Key phrase: "for most photographers". Many photographers are perfectly happy to automate the processing, hence the many preset packs that are scooped up to simplify the process. It comes down to personal preference. Enjoy the emerald isle. Carry on. 👍🥂

  • @philipcooper8297
    @philipcooper8297 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    The question is, does it still bring you joy, when generate most of the image?

    • @HardwareG33k
      @HardwareG33k 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      The question is: did you even watch the video?

  • @LaFuenteOnFilm
    @LaFuenteOnFilm 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    It helps when the shots are already insane raw like these 😅

    • @Jebusjoose
      @Jebusjoose 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Good photos need to be good photos before they're processed

  • @KijkEenVogel
    @KijkEenVogel 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    For me, I love the process of taking photos. The editing part? Not so much. I prefer quick and easy edits. Luminar seems a perfect fit. But somehow I feel it takes the joy and the art out of photography. It seems to me like the days in which photography was invented and people said it couldn’t possibly be an art. Taking pictures of scenes without the skill and hard work of the painter wasn’t art, they said. Is letting AI take over the majority of edits still art, I wonder…

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But does it really take away your joy of going out to take photos? Sure, we could all just go to midjourney to type in prompts, but I will always love going out somewhere with the camera to see whatever I see. The tools I use when I get home hopefully will just enhance the results.

  • @randygerber1565
    @randygerber1565 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I look forward to watching this, this evening.

  • @wendynewing8834
    @wendynewing8834 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this. It is really interesting and helpful.

  • @oliverstuart
    @oliverstuart 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I am a pro photographer and use 5 brackets for most photos and merge in LR... you can automate it sort of. Select your entire shoot, chose 'stack by capture time' 4 seconds seems to work for me. It will them make each bracket into a separate stack, then select the whole shoot again, right click and choose photo merge, merge to HDR, and go for lunch... the pixies batch process it all while you are away.

    • @jamiexmn
      @jamiexmn 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is the same method I use with HDR batches for real estate photos.

    • @oliverstuart
      @oliverstuart 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@jamiexmn most of my work is real estate too.

    • @JamesKerwin
      @JamesKerwin 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same here - works a treat!

    • @spikehodge5412
      @spikehodge5412 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You really should try Luminar then - it is a lot simpler.

  • @SilverHalides
    @SilverHalides 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Although not the topic of the video, the discussion about how much it’s OK to edit a photo (using AI or not) is relevant and interesting in my opinion.
    I personally hope C2PA will become a standard certification method for photographers to share with their audience exactly how a photo has been altered since it was captured. The transparency that this offers will be helpful, I think.

  • @cbimage
    @cbimage 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was extremely helpful, James. Thanks.

  • @iaincphotography6051
    @iaincphotography6051 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cheers for that James, very tempted. And thanks for featuring the Cromlech Bridge.

  • @-grey
    @-grey 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The thing I can see this being most beneficial for is people who get it right in camera. They can largely ditch raw files and let ai figure it out. Most of what I'm using raw files for is data recovery in highlights or shadows. This seems like the ideal jpeg editor.

  • @jasond.1155
    @jasond.1155 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice does this mean there is going to be a luminar version of your presets to buy?😜
    I used the previous version of Luminar and liked it a lot. But it kept crashing when Neon came out.

  • @metageek
    @metageek 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm pretty sure what Luminar is using to identify bursts is the EXIF data. On at least some cameras, if you take a burst, the EXIF gets annotated with "1 of 3", "2 of 3", etc.

  • @asthmatyk
    @asthmatyk 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want to see that one photo you took in february, must have been something special 😂 Great vid as always, thanks!

  • @TehGems1
    @TehGems1 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a weird issue with Luminar Neo. Whenever I adjust a slider, the image becomes temporarily blurry, like it’s rendering or something. It goes back to normal as soon as I release the slider. It’s super annoying. Any fix? It’s not my machine as I’m on a MacBook Pro M2 Max.

  • @bernardjohnwright
    @bernardjohnwright 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks interesting worth a look.

  • @artu10alonso
    @artu10alonso 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I was so hyped for having some editing advice (i love your style) but ending with some promo of smth i dont really see as editing but as a photomontage

    • @GumusZee
      @GumusZee 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Everyone seems to be stuck up on the sky replacement, but you really don't need to use it if you don't like it. The rest of the tools is an easy and accesible version of common manual edits achievable with Lightroom or Photoshop. If you don't consider Lightroom a "photomontage" this doesn't have to be either.

    • @warmoaran3
      @warmoaran3 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GumusZee any tool that has ai in it isnt a good tool. this includes adobe which probably steals artists photos for proffit.

  • @johnchedsey1306
    @johnchedsey1306 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've had some Luminar products in the past but wasn't really blown. However, this is clearly a step up for them. This was a great little runthrough!

  • @timeaston2776
    @timeaston2776 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you. Being relatively new to Neo, I have just run through the vid for a second time to get your take on some of the features. I have used PS and the Topaz trio (with a very light touch) and find neo to be a nice addition, but not necessarily a replacement in the editing process. I agree though that for most of my edits, it does speed things along quite nicely. After taking a quick look at a few of the comments below; please forgive me for wanting to make a couple of points. Firstly, the information in the video is very helpful. The program is complicated and the more hints as to how to best use it are appreciated. Secondly, there is no small amount of time and effort exerted to learn the nuances of a beast such as this and I for one am not only OK with but very happy that you are compensated for gathering so much information and passing it along. I have never had cause to doubt that the observations you make are anything other than your honest opinion. Finally, when it comes to our new found ability to over process the work; with the advent of the digital age, the degree to which editing is applied is completely the judgement of the editor. The purest form of photography remains film, and even that has a darkroom between the subject and the final viewer. Thanks again.

  • @chrissnyder4439
    @chrissnyder4439 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    For years now I've had Luminar AI, and since the mystical slider was really the only thing I ever did, I've never felt the need to move to Neo. Even now, I'm still not sure it's worth paying a subscription (or paying the lifetime price) for what Neo has that AI doesn't. Sure, cheaper than Adobe, but I wouldn't replace it.

  • @krimke881
    @krimke881 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If that HDR-merge-tool doesn't arrive in LRC very very very soon, I'd be really down. It's what it needs. It's good LRC have the sorting where you can automatically jada jada jada if you do bracketing. But it stops working if you DON'T bracket in between. I'd might be getting that luminar neo soon.

  • @jmcgonnell
    @jmcgonnell 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Ai can go pound sand.

    • @rosvw3517
      @rosvw3517 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Exactly

  • @stephenschmid492
    @stephenschmid492 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    James, from the video it seemed you may have been unaware of Lightroom's ability to stack by proximity in time. I use it all the time to keep bracketed photos together.

  • @europlatus
    @europlatus 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Maybe Luminar is "best for most photographers" when it comes to quickly getting results, but I'm not sure it's a useful tool for beginners looking to learn skills. I still think there's value in learning more traditional methods first before moving on to something like this that automates time-consuming work. I think this takes "I'll fix it in post" to the next level where you can actually say "I'll do it in post", making you a lazy photographer that doesn't get it right in-camera or doesn't even go to a certain location at a certain time to get the shot.

    • @hoodie3810
      @hoodie3810 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah that's a fair point. Ideally new photographers first develop their craft with their camera before even touching editing. Cameras generate pretty nice jpegs these days, so editing shouldn't be needed while you're developing your eye and your skills.
      As a side note, I think everyone should get the opportunity to try darkroom developing/editing. I was lucky enough to have access to a fully supplied darkroom at my uni (in 2020) and that was a really enjoyable experience. It taught me to slow down and take time to consider each action, and also to appreciate all the fancy new tech we get access to now.

  • @kingzozo19
    @kingzozo19 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I used luminar in past, was very slow and i miss layer merge for macro stacking. I would like to switch to it, tired paying ransom money to Adobe.

  • @alangauld6079
    @alangauld6079 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The application of the same tool multiple times is Neo's version of adjustment layers. It takes some getting used to just because it's different but once you get it, it's great! (The nearest equivalent IME is Nik ColorEfex and the way you can apply the same filter multiple times) Neo also has "layers" but they are really for compositing not editing. My biggest dislike with Neo is that many of the AI tools are nearly great, but not quite. Noise reduction is heavy-handed, sharpening can be too strong, HDR gets to HDRish , Face enhancement can be downright weird(it adds other people's eyes etc!) If they could improve the quality rather than just adding more features it could be truly great. As it is, I mostly use it for sky replacement and motion blur enhancement. But the latest upgrade with Luminosity masks and object selection is a huge step up so I remain optimistic...

  • @GemmaHentsch
    @GemmaHentsch 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Biggest issue I have with any plugin, is the lack of a plugin feature in lightroom cc... I hate having to go via photoshop, which is so unwieldy, and it returns tiff files which are space hogs...
    The workflow I generally use is I don't save back through photoshop, I export a tiff into a folder with an auto action that converts to heif (they may have improved things but it wasn't great with heif a while back), and i then import that back into lightroom...

  • @fredericsoumier8096
    @fredericsoumier8096 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've loved Luminar sofwares but one thing make me quit : no side car files to save your editing.
    So no archiving ability.
    Is it still the case ?

    • @Ash1955
      @Ash1955 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes , but you can use it as a plugin to other software

  • @bradsimsphoto
    @bradsimsphoto 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I picked up Neo a few years ago on your recommendation of the Mystical tool. It's only gotten so much better with updates like the HDR, Relight, and Erase tools since then. I can't recommend it enough. One other thing that Neo has that Lightroom is missing is the ability to do layered overlays. Adding a slight overlay of light rays, swirling mist, or subtle lens flare or bokeh can yield some lovely results. I'm not a huge fan of the fad of putting things like flower wreaths around pregnant mom photos or adding fake falling leaves and sparkles to autumn portraits, but I have to admit, the layers function in Neo makes stuff like that super easy and very powerful.

  • @DavidSenteno
    @DavidSenteno 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You had me at “remove power lines” 😮

  • @JohnRGoudy
    @JohnRGoudy 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have been considering Luminar. One question do you do the monthly subscription or did you buy the lifetime? I’m my research it seems like them made changes to what the lifetime gets and it’s not necessarily for the better, on the consumers side. Great video as always.

    • @chrismassa5891
      @chrismassa5891 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good question. I figure if I bought the current version, and the update comes out there would be a charge. But what about maintenance fixes?

    • @chimaerad
      @chimaerad 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Just got a 2 year sub that with James' discount code was £89, and the renewal fee in 2 years is fixed at the same price.

    • @paulbarnard5267
      @paulbarnard5267 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is something to watch out for. Skylum have a terrible habit of dropping software. Neo is the latest iteration in a run of about five packages that were promised to be subscription free and yes they were but the all hit end of life after only a year or two. You then had to buy into the new version. With Neo you only get the fancy AI options on the subscription plan.

    • @SolFaithman
      @SolFaithman 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@paulbarnard5267 This ^^ Skylum have a notorious reputation of releasing software then sunsetting them in 12 months to release a new version. Its become a clear pattern that software gets discounted massively just before they pull the trigger on a new version.

    • @kris.andrews
      @kris.andrews 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@paulbarnard5267exactly, I bought Luminar 3 and 4, but lots of features they promised kept getting pushed to future paid versions.. basically if you wanted the latest version all the time you might as well have just paid the LR subscription. I know that is old history now, but I bet as soon as I buy a version they will bring out Neo 2…

  • @dhwardphoto
    @dhwardphoto 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    James look into stacking groups in LR, that'll group your exposure bracketed shots. I use it for my focus bracketed shots which coukd have up to 80 shots in a run. As for the video, it has kind of piqued my interest in Neo, so may have to give it a whirl.

  • @artiedoc
    @artiedoc 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    James you had me at auto removal of electrical wires 😂❤

  • @houserhythm
    @houserhythm 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is alright to replace Lr, but if you mostly edit in Ps (and need what it can do over Lr, not just to be fancy)...

  • @Dan-kb2oz
    @Dan-kb2oz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Luminar also came to prominence (along with Affinity Photo) because it was subscription free. Both were seen as a great one time purchase alternative to PS and LR. Shame that's no longer the case.

    • @spikehodge5412
      @spikehodge5412 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Huh? Mine is subscription free. There are some web based AI gen things (add ons/extensions) that need a subscription but nobody there seems to want them anyway.

  • @DominicMuir
    @DominicMuir 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would love to see you revist a little bit of your composite days James! Do you ever composite your landscapes? :)

  • @cristibaluta
    @cristibaluta 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Me even as a weekend photographer i don't change the light of the photo or remove stuff from it, but i love my film simulation filters which work only in ps, so this software won't do it. I tried it for free and i couldn't decide how i want my final photo to look like

  • @benbunch4159
    @benbunch4159 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I’d give it a go if they did a full iPad version like lightroom

  • @hellorangus
    @hellorangus 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wish it was on iPad! That’s the best thing about Lightroom, makes editing so fun!

  • @Sven-R
    @Sven-R 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For Relight AI there is also a depth slider, which in most cases makes it unnecessary to use masking.

  • @johndoe-nh9sh
    @johndoe-nh9sh 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting video James. Faster isn't always better but I like to take my time with editing. Perhaps I'm too ingrained in the world of Adobe too (PS user since v3/late 90s).

  • @rhyswebster
    @rhyswebster 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Get that bag

  • @birkhansen8210
    @birkhansen8210 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The main thing I dislike about this software is how there seemingly isn’t any performance difference between my old MacBook Air m1 and my 64gb ram MacBook Pro m1 MAX. I feel the lack of utilization of powerful computers, would drive professionals towards Lightroom. I’ll stick with luminar since I hate subscription services.

  • @daviddyephotography
    @daviddyephotography 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would agree that Neo is very intuitive and the quality of the final product is pretty good, I have a few issues but overall I will say Neo is my primary tool because it is quick and gets the job done. any with any software with AI, you can use or not use the AI as you wish. Oh and let me point out NO OTHER program eliminates DUST spots as fast nd effectively as NEO

  • @jrewillis
    @jrewillis 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm willing to give it a go. Adobe charge an extortionate amount of money for Adobe cc now. This is £50 a year and significantly undercuts lightroom. Worth a go - if it gets me back to some actually photo editing and taking it might just be worth it!

  • @m29matt
    @m29matt 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I'd consider Neo if it didn't have generative AI. Since they aren't clear on how their generative AI was trained (i.e. did they use a bunch of artists' work without permission and compensation, or using medical record photos without patient knowledge or consent like the LAION-5B dataset), it's a hard no from me. I'm not big on art theft, considering how badly gen ai is affecting my artist friends.
    If someone from Luminar wants to hop in on the comments and clarify what dataset the AI was trained on, however, I'm happy to change my tune.

  • @bigrobotnewstoday1436
    @bigrobotnewstoday1436 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Luminar moved history into edits because it works in layers now. For example let's say you take a portrait of someone and use A.i. bokeh it will move that to edits. And you can slide it again to add in even more bokeh. Its weird as first but once you understand what its doing it makes sense. But it would be nice if you could go back to that took and there was a edit tab right there.

  • @Vartan297
    @Vartan297 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don’t see any issue with suggestions like these… many people don’t have the time or skill for photoshop or Lightroom. Even more people just use phone editing software or insta editing… Maybe this is a good in-between thing to use? Never used it but looks ok.

  • @mick3549
    @mick3549 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How are people so upset about him talking about a tool… you can literally do sky replacement in photoshop too… doesn’t mean you have to, just means you can do that in neo and it can do that better and faster than other TOOLS… It’s a Tool you can use if you want to… Also if you use a Software you don’t have to use every single feature of it. You can choose what you integrate in your workflow and what not…

  • @ianday1470
    @ianday1470 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The sliders are reset because you can use any given tool more than once.

  • @Th3D4rkSh4d0w
    @Th3D4rkSh4d0w 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yay, a new video from Jame..... oh, it's a 12 minute ad for AI :(

    • @JamesPopsysPhoto
      @JamesPopsysPhoto  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I didn’t really do much with the AI features did I?

  • @darrenletley8399
    @darrenletley8399 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the issues with AI depend on how it’s used. Luminar (like most other software nowadays) uses AI tech to speed up some tasks such as masking and adding localised contrast etc and I happily use those tools. I can do the same edits more quickly in Neo than I could have done with Photoshop for example, as James has demonstrated in this video. There’s nothing wrong with speeding up the creative process when the end result is the same as we would have produced a decade ago with our Photoshop skills. People were arguing 20+ years ago whether any digital manipulation was “photography”. However, I’m not in favour of the generative AI tools that have been added more recently. I don’t agree with adding components (skies, fake lighting etc) that then create a new composition. Erasing is a fine line. Removing small details akin to spot healing seems acceptable. However, erasing people/large areas where the background has to be AI generated seems wrong to me. On the whole, I think Luminar Neo is a great piece of software, but like all photo editing, it depends how far you go with it as to whether your image loses its authenticity. Luminar Neo offers a lot more than just its generative AI tools, it’s a shame that the marketing seems to promote that side so strongly.

  • @bobbylimesmusic
    @bobbylimesmusic 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great vid and demonstration - love comment section going off 🍿.
    Has anybody used the latest mac desktop version of Apple Photos app? I had Lightroom for 20 minutes, then canceled my free trial lol. Apple Photos has a lot! It handles my RAW canon files 👌🏻. I touch a few sliders, pull out certain colors and I can’t see wanting more.
    Best part is it only costs about $5k / year (to keep up with latest Mac, iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch) lol

  • @sorwerk
    @sorwerk 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    It's great we'll see the same 12 types of sky in all pictures 🙂. And no wires anywhere.

    • @Ash1955
      @Ash1955 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Take you own Sky photos and add them to the software

  • @63MacGuy
    @63MacGuy 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What's the price after the 83% sales

    • @AndyDay
      @AndyDay 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      think it works out at about €100 for 2 years.

  • @sue.Holmes1960
    @sue.Holmes1960 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I’ve not used Luminar, but heard a common complaint, (which is what’s putting me off purchasing it), that it’s very “laggy”, or slow to show the changes as you do them, so it takes the system too long to catch up with the sliders, is this something you’ve noticed?

    • @SpruceUp612
      @SpruceUp612 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ve never used it either, but I wonder if a good GPU can help, or if Luminar runs better on Mac or PC. I’d switch to editing on my PC if my gaming GPU could make it this app run fast. Thinking about just selling out and going full Luminar because I photography is already unfulfilling for me. Nothing matters in art anymore.

    • @JamesKerwin
      @JamesKerwin 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@SpruceUp612 it does seem VERY draining on even my high end and brand new CPU and graphics card. Also colour don't show correctly all of the time - its very odd.

    • @SpruceUp612
      @SpruceUp612 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JamesKerwin I wonder if it’s actually utilizing some cloud server processing for some tools like how phone gallery apps are doing their AI edits. Could try editing with the computer on airplane mode and see what happens.

    • @sokkerjeff
      @sokkerjeff 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Luminar was developed initially on Apple computers. The Windows versions came along a few years later. I use it on an M1 Mac Studio with 32GB RAM and really don’t notice any particular lag in performance. I can easily imagine it being less efficient on Windows machines, just because it was not initially written for that OS, and optimizing for different platforms while retaining feature parity is (and has always been) difficult.
      The other issue Luminar faces is that it is developed in Ukraine. Given that tidbit, it is absolutely amazing to me that they have continued to develop and release updates while their country is at war. Pretty remarkable, really.

    • @sue.Holmes1960
      @sue.Holmes1960 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sokkerjeff thanks, that’s useful to know. I’m a Mac user so maybe it’s worth trying a free trial.

  • @AndrewBassonZA
    @AndrewBassonZA 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    at the same price of 83% off its still more expensive compared to adobes photography bundle, along with the HUGE pain in the backside it is when trying to edit multiple photos one after the other, I own luminar 3 , 4 and AI after luminar 4 when they moved away from multiple layers things got bad to the point where even with a high end system you cannot edit more than lets say 15 photos consecutively since it just crashes ether the application or your entire computer, not to mention that it does not support high resolution RAW photos meaning your having to convert to DNG via lightroom first anyway before editing in neo , no thank you comes to mind sadly

  • @larx4074
    @larx4074 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yep, well expressed. Have been using Neo for a couple of years and fully appreciate the speed with which I can achieve acceptable results. Agree with the negg regarding the "un-do-ability" of the functions; to body-swerve this, I always copy a file and work on this first, if it's a blow-out, I can delete and copy again.

    • @spikehodge5412
      @spikehodge5412 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm probably missing something, as I'm not sure what is meant by the "un-do-ability" .
      The latest version has a simple ctrl-Z to undo last change, and the 'Edits' history of you want to change, or remove, any previous edit.
      The advantage of this is that once you apply an edit and move on, you can use the same tool again to create a new edit on your current "image" OR go to 'Edits' and change one of the earlier edits made with the same (or other) tools.
      All edits are non-destructive, the original is always safe - if you want to affect the original you would need to export and actively overwrite it. Of course there is no way to change an original RAW file.
      A feature I do think is missing, Is the ability to create a "virtual" copy of a file so that you could have two completely separate workflows and edits on (or rather from) the same original

  • @oscare123
    @oscare123 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A lot of people commenting apparently without watching the video

  • @nickbrown9550
    @nickbrown9550 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    and here's me thinking it was going to be crank the oranges right up and you're good to go

  • @Andyhutchinson
    @Andyhutchinson 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's a useful app for stuff like real estate photography when photographic integrity is irrelevant, but not for landscape photography where the intent is to honestly capture a real scene. The AI stuff is clever, no doubt about it, but the Lightroom equivalent stuff - the RAW development sliders - they're pants.

  • @kcphotogeek6207
    @kcphotogeek6207 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If it can handle the overhead wires on the streets of Metro Manila I’m in

  • @bernym4047
    @bernym4047 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The shadow lift on the scene with bridge and waterfall looked rather heavy handed. I'm not tempted thanks.

  • @elwick_photo
    @elwick_photo 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    The idea that luminar neo is 80% off + 10% off makes me think they must have a new version ready to go and yet again like luminar 3 and 4, I'll buy it and they'll obsolete it within a month 😂

    • @Sven-R
      @Sven-R 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think Neo is here to stay and they are using this as a platform going forward, trying to get everyone on the subscription path, which makes it unnecessary to release new versions to generate revenue.

    • @madefromfilm
      @madefromfilm 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep, so true!!

    • @SolFaithman
      @SolFaithman 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      100% this, its their MO, has happened a number of times and then, oh look, no way to migrate from the old software to new.

    • @JesseHall-gd4sd
      @JesseHall-gd4sd 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The key phrase is ‘discounts up to 80%’ meaning you can buy presets and more sky options for 80% off what was already an 80% spiked price. And10% off the software itself.

    • @culinarykid92
      @culinarykid92 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Every other software does this. On1, yearly updates. ACDSee, yearly updates. Exposure hasn't had an update in almost 2 years. Luminar has added new features for free and some for cost, all as extensions and now generative AI for almost 3 years now. Capture One is you get what you buy, no new feature updates and still no histogram.
      Lightroom is only subscription. A lot of new features are AI driven. I use Neo because it is easy to use and I use the normal tools everyone else uses.
      James' point of the reset does annoy me, and on Windows it runs a little slow (but much better than their previous software). I also find their library to be a little lackluster, even compared to Luminar 4.
      I am looking at a software for running faster and better photo management. So far ACDSee, On1, DxO Photolab, and PhotoDiector seem to be my options.

  • @peteg330
    @peteg330 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks James for exploring the uses of Neo. Would I use it, I'm not sure. We've all cloned an item out of a photo, made skies & clouds brighter so I don't see am issue with some of this AI shizzle. I think it all depends on your audience. If you photos for fun and personal pleasure, then it's fine. If you used AI to fake photos then sold them or passed them off as genuine, then it's not right.

  • @hjones451
    @hjones451 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Computer storage and costs are the issue here - perhaps not a problem for pro Photographers like yourself - I would opt for 'one off' payment editing software instead (No names mentioned, wouldn't like to upset your sponsors who genuinely provide a good product)

  • @jacobbo-lee6107
    @jacobbo-lee6107 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t see the problem with replacing sky’s, I sold a couple prints the other day and the skys made a big impact, made just under $10,000 on them 😅 what they don’t know wont hurt em.

    • @chrisdvsmith999
      @chrisdvsmith999 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      it’s fraud

    • @jacobbo-lee6107
      @jacobbo-lee6107 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrisdvsmith999 its not Photojournalism

    • @rosvw3517
      @rosvw3517 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Until they see your other prints with the same skies… 😂

    • @jacobbo-lee6107
      @jacobbo-lee6107 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rosvw3517 I use different skies

  • @JonnyWhitlam
    @JonnyWhitlam 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for this! Very interesting. Considering downloading it. Cheers!

  • @JustinMcNeil
    @JustinMcNeil 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    TH-cam hid this video from me. No just stumbled across it accidentally while going through my subscribed tubers. I hate it when youtube does that

  • @stevef2114
    @stevef2114 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont believe as a pro that you dont look at your histogram or have highlight protection on etc... Plus cant a sony 60mp camera capture all that you need shot underexposed and you just raise the exposure in post?

  • @robbellphoto
    @robbellphoto 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shut up and take my freaking money Jim mate ❤

  • @AmorLucisPhotography
    @AmorLucisPhotography 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    An ethical point: sky replacement that is not clearly acknowledged is a form of deceit. This is because the portion of the image that consists of the replaced sky is not your image - it's a portion of someone else's image that has replaced that portion of your image. Your image consists entirely of what was captured by you at the scene at that time.

    • @Ash1955
      @Ash1955 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You can add your own sky photos to the software, as you can with any sky replacement software.

  • @mattfisher8255
    @mattfisher8255 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As much as I love your videos, photos and the rest of your work James. There is one thing that I don't agree with in this video. When your talking about bracketing and how it can be difficult to sus out which photos belong together, you could just take a blank black photo between each set.

  • @nigelwest3430
    @nigelwest3430 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Sponsored video or full blown advert ?

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not much difference between the two.

  • @JohnKrill
    @JohnKrill 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    And now you have the exact same sky as thousands of other photographers.

    • @rosvw3517
      @rosvw3517 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly!!

    • @Ash1955
      @Ash1955 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can add your own Sky photos 🤣

  • @SteveZodiac777
    @SteveZodiac777 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    interesting.....

  • @spinrodriguez8930
    @spinrodriguez8930 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is the Mystical slider worth $100? Yes, probably... maybe. So the rest is basically free!

  • @R0dan
    @R0dan 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely HATED this program when I tried to use it!

  • @CalzNL
    @CalzNL 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Why not just sell your camera and start making photos with an AI image generator? 🙃

    • @rosvw3517
      @rosvw3517 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      100% agree.

  • @johndwilliams
    @johndwilliams 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can’t understand why so many are getting upset. I’m not a lover of Squarespace but don’t care if James makes a few quid promoting it.
    If you don’t want to change skies, then don’t!
    TH-camrs like James depend on sponsorship like this to keep doing what they do. They don’t have the luxury of a day job to pay the bills.

  • @lulen29
    @lulen29 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesante.

  • @madefromfilm
    @madefromfilm 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    No, James, noooooo!

  • @quentindescotte6037
    @quentindescotte6037 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I will forgive you if you use the money of this video to buy a Leica M11 again

  • @SpaklesDr
    @SpaklesDr 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    AI...taking the art out of photography since 2024.

  • @davidzlockie6981
    @davidzlockie6981 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Having watched so many of your videos and loving your content, I am disappointed you seem to have gone full promo. This doesn't feel authentic. Your past content was all about the skill, love and discovery of photography and you have slowly transformed your content to promo and gear, with this being the cherry on top.

  • @amountainofsmoke
    @amountainofsmoke 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is there any point in taking the original photo if you allow AI to change it so drastically? Why not just stay at home and generate the whole image? I don't get the appeal.

    • @JamesPopsysPhoto
      @JamesPopsysPhoto  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree, that’s why I spent the video on relatively normal editing.

    • @rosvw3517
      @rosvw3517 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JamesPopsysPhoto define normal editing, because a number of viewers think replacing much of a photograph makes one a good photographer.

  • @xXSwaghetti.YoloneseXx-uf2bb
    @xXSwaghetti.YoloneseXx-uf2bb 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm gay, you helped me come out the closet

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    o dear.
    the purists are outraged....
    look.
    in the bad old days of film photography you would spend a not insubstantial part of the process
    figuring out the camera settings.
    and then you might click.
    if those folks, particularly the newsy ones, had had the tools we have now,
    they would have leapt at it.
    (ps: was anyone else watching on a computer trying to move the sliders with their cursor?
    it took a second to realize I didn't have control...)

    • @rosvw3517
      @rosvw3517 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Purists?? Then call yourself an AI creator and not a photographer. If you can’t see the difference, you’re a s/w editor.

  • @johndwilliams
    @johndwilliams 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh dear, you’ve offended all the ‘real’ photographers. 😁

    • @rosvw3517
      @rosvw3517 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, it’s just interesting to see who’s better at software manipulation, than taking a good photograph that somehow you feel is obviously inadequate.

    • @johndwilliams
      @johndwilliams 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rosvw3517 If the photo isn’t good in the first place no amount of editing will make it great. It’s subjective and always down to the photographer how they edit it. Really, all you are doing is taking it a bit further than the camera already has. A linear profile, ie, straight out of camera is dull and flat.

  • @StevensonGphotos
    @StevensonGphotos 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    James, I'm a long time fan of your channel, but this video feels forced and obviously sponsored. I mean c'mon James, removing power lines?? Ya love powerlines for goodness sake!
    Anyway, thanks for letting me know not to get Luminar - can't stand all that one click stuff 😅

    • @StevensonGphotos
      @StevensonGphotos 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      YT has hidden Part 2 of my comment - not fair play!
      Don't worry James I'm still a faithful subscriber... ;)

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, he removed the powerlines as an example of what the program can do, doesn't mean he'll necessarily do it himself. Same for the replacing skies for instance, it's a review after all.

    • @StevensonGphotos
      @StevensonGphotos 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@soundscape26 true ...

  • @MarcoBlanke
    @MarcoBlanke 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fight me, but when you pause at 0:01, James is looking like an aged disney prince with that cheeky smile. Or a slightly dumb, but kind hearted truck driver.

  • @CalzNL
    @CalzNL 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    A big part of the joy in photography is being in the right place, in the right time, with enough skill to capture something amazing. When using Luminar you just have to be somewhere and press a button to take a photo. Then make it amazing by using sliders... Seems very unrewarding and not something I would be proud of to show others.

    • @rosvw3517
      @rosvw3517 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      109% correct!!

  • @andymcgarty3099
    @andymcgarty3099 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Its a sad day.