I bought the cup system with the snaps a couple of months ago on eBay. The are cheaper and work well, but PPS is better. The great thing is that you can take off the tabs and use a PPS cup over the snap cup. Works great and saves money. Also, you get a cover with filter for every liner just like PPS
The clip snap cups look great Tony, just as long as they're slim/even and not super wide, any size is good. That would make the gun more balanced when painting, but if it was really bulky (wide) it would push the gun around when you were painting. Thats why I only use 24oz cups I wouldn't go for the twist on pps style cups if I were you, might lead to people bashing you for copying their system. The snap cups you have look super clean and slim. Don't worry about which sizes or what style. It's great how you have it. If you find a durable way to snap on the cups you'll make good business.
And I would offer 1 snap on lid & 1 shell cup per 10 liners, so for example a package of 2 shell cups, 2 snap lids and 20 liners would be a good starter kit. Good for both basecoat (colored snap on lids) and clearcoat (a clear snap on lids).
many years using pps system. Even the best leaks sometimes. We have set a whole 3m pps case order aside because of leaks and blaming it on a poor production batch/leaking. Our shop has even engineered and produced a collar lock to prevent a twist and compression ejection because we use the bottom feed w/pressure setup for woodwork, furniture and cabinet work. The ppms users must not be a big enough players for 3m not to see our most basic needs and concerns of a great working system that needs some bells and whistles. 3m if your listening, please hire me. I have designed working proto-type collar to lock your cup to the gun so a twist off error is improbable to happen. No longer do I have an old pps cup disengage and material explode/saturate everything in a 10 foot radius.
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Like your dad like mine we learn and hand down what we to other generations we build door slammers here in sunny California small business est. In the 70s I myself and my last remaining Uncle who is 75 and still racing love the pps but changing to your system didn't know thx
I have used the DeKupp system and thought it would be foolproof. It isn't.........The locking details are hidden and you do not have a visual indication that the cup is sealed. You have to turn it upside and look for leaks. Not good! The system that you are developing has many positive features. The Lock system using the PVC or Aluminum would be great and even better with 4 locking tabs. If one locking tab fails you still have 3 in reserve! The cup and filter arrangement also looks great. Again 4 Tabs would be very reliable. I would also suggest the kit have a funnel that is a good tight fit and would prevent an an overflow.
Hey Tony hope all is good. Was fixin to order some quik cups. With 125 micron. But also to make sure, I’d have to remove filter for metal flake correct? Pearls will be ok with filter tho right? Thanks, Pete
hey bro i have a question, i want to sand my car for a new paint job with what sandpaper do you suggest me starting?? i have a friend who said 500 grit. thanks keep the good content
Jesus Carrillo well... if your pain is good you can just paint right over it you may not need primer... dude learn more at: learnautobodyandpaint.com :)
Didn't like the PPS system was using today ones got on eBay and the paint had fell out of the cup. Won't be using PPS cups nomore I can't be having paint fall out the cup gonna go use the regular cups. If it wasn't for the PPS system would of been done today. Just got a litte base left. This orange orange cup is out show with the clips look better though the one with no clips won't use again. I might be done tommorow painting my truck I applied primer first but did it on the hole truck as a sealer but did about half the truck. Gonna get some more regular paint cups tommorow though they should make a PPS screw system cup.
Tony, before I joined VIP I always got an email saying you were going live. I haven't got a invite since. I use dekupps and never had any issues, yes I'm subscribed to your channel with notifications
John B sorry for that sometimes I’m too late in sending out a link to the TH-cam live but if you’re subscribe to the channel with that alert button clicked you’ll get a notification from TH-cam every time I go live!!
@@HowToPaintYourCar lol, well, I did buy an atom x21 1.4 green tip from zoolaa, sprayed for the very first time in my life, gun is fantastic! It was the Ford Molten Orange color, Tri-coat, and all I did was watch all your youtube videos and take notes, Thank You! I did leave a good review with pictures on amazon for the atom x21. Although I did buy that kit from HF and used the bigger gun only with the 1.8 tip to lay down the high build primer, worked ok, zoolaa was out of the 1.8 tips for my atom x21. www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B078Z53WR5/ref=mw_dp_cr
So what happen to the better than 3M PPS System? All this info on how to paint your car is not what I am looking for. Iam looking for a better alternative than 3M PPS.
I guess I'm the only person who regrets buying the pps system. Compared to purchasing cups locally, I literally can afford to use and throw away a cheap sprayer for every car.
@@HowToPaintYourCar If you can't make mad profits converting to pps then your probably not able to see the fine details of your hand in front of your face.
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I bought the cup system with the snaps a couple of months ago on eBay. The are cheaper and work well, but PPS is better. The great thing is that you can take off the tabs and use a PPS cup over the snap cup. Works great and saves money. Also, you get a cover with filter for every liner just like PPS
Robert B yeah I like the collar type better as well.
The clip snap cups look great Tony, just as long as they're slim/even and not super wide, any size is good. That would make the gun more balanced when painting, but if it was really bulky (wide) it would push the gun around when you were painting. Thats why I only use 24oz cups
I wouldn't go for the twist on pps style cups if I were you, might lead to people bashing you for copying their system. The snap cups you have look super clean and slim. Don't worry about which sizes or what style. It's great how you have it. If you find a durable way to snap on the cups you'll make good business.
And I would offer 1 snap on lid & 1 shell cup per 10 liners, so for example a package of 2 shell cups, 2 snap lids and 20 liners would be a good starter kit. Good for both basecoat (colored snap on lids) and clearcoat (a clear snap on lids).
many years using pps system. Even the best leaks sometimes. We have set a whole 3m pps case order aside because of leaks and blaming it on a poor production batch/leaking. Our shop has even engineered and produced a collar lock to prevent a twist and compression ejection because we use the bottom feed w/pressure setup for woodwork, furniture and cabinet work. The ppms users must not be a big enough players for 3m not to see our most basic needs and concerns of a great working system that needs some bells and whistles. 3m if your listening, please hire me. I have designed working proto-type collar to lock your cup to the gun so a twist off error is improbable to happen. No longer do I have an old pps cup disengage and material explode/saturate everything in a 10 foot radius.
Do the liners suck down as you paint like the bag systems does? Can you paint up side down like you can with a bag?
Tom Rassier Yes it pretty much does the same thing I’ll have videos using them soon!
Great job keep up the hard work on the lids and liners
Thank you, bro! Keep cranking too! Check out learnautobodyandpaint VIP at vip1.learnautobodyandpaint.com/exclusivevipwe have so many projects that we go over step by step A-Z detail, custom body kits, candy paints, pearls flakes, and so much more. You’re going to enjoy VIP so much more, so definitely check that out.
Like your dad like mine we learn and hand down what we to other generations we build door slammers here in sunny California small business est. In the 70s I myself and my last remaining Uncle who is 75 and still racing love the pps but changing to your system didn't know thx
I've never had problems with either DeKupps or PPS systems. I like them both.
Yea mike
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@Noah Jared Flixportal :)
@Judson Layton Thank you, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :D I appreciate it!
@Noah Jared Glad I could help :)
I don't see any mini cup options on the web site, will they be available or not so much?
I have used the DeKupp system and thought it would be foolproof. It isn't.........The locking details are hidden and you do not have a visual indication that the cup is sealed. You have to turn it upside and look for leaks. Not good! The system that you are developing has many positive features. The Lock system using the PVC or Aluminum would be great and even better with 4 locking tabs. If one locking tab fails you still have 3 in reserve! The cup and filter arrangement also looks great. Again 4 Tabs would be very reliable. I would also suggest the kit have a funnel that is a good tight fit and would prevent an an overflow.
Thanks Thomas!
I would argue that you need 2 locks minimum or your gonna fail but im a bottom feeder.
I thought you had something new, I have been using that system for a long time. The snap-on s do not leek
Does this system work with the fuji side mount? do they have the elbow to adapt?
I suggested ask manufacture to support H/o Pressured cup system as well
Just came across this video ! Did you ever get these made ?
Check out the QKS System here on Zoolaa: www.zoolaa.com/
What's the company's name?
Looks good and I can hear you
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Hey Tony hope all is good. Was fixin to order some quik cups. With 125 micron. But also to make sure, I’d have to remove filter for metal flake correct? Pearls will be ok with filter tho right?
Thanks,
Pete
Correct!! and Correct!
My Man is thanks. See you Thursday 🤙🏾
Did you ever start selling these?
Hey Man! You can get these at www.zoolaa.com/collections/cups-and-filters Check them out!
hey bro i have a question, i want to sand my car for a new paint job with what sandpaper do you suggest me starting?? i have a friend who said 500 grit. thanks keep the good content
Jesus Carrillo Usually 400 is recommended I always finish with 400. Some people say 500 or 600 anything finer than six I wouldn’t recommend.
okay cool so 500 is just for making the paint dull so i can primer over it right
Jesus Carrillo well... if your pain is good you can just paint right over it you may not need primer... dude learn more at: learnautobodyandpaint.com :)
Didn't like the PPS system was using today ones got on eBay and the paint had fell out of the cup. Won't be using PPS cups nomore I can't be having paint fall out the cup gonna go use the regular cups. If it wasn't for the PPS system would of been done today. Just got a litte base left. This orange orange cup is out show with the clips look better though the one with no clips won't use again. I might be done tommorow painting my truck I applied primer first but did it on the hole truck as a sealer but did about half the truck. Gonna get some more regular paint cups tommorow though they should make a PPS screw system cup.
Tony, before I joined VIP I always got an email saying you were going live. I haven't got a invite since. I use dekupps and never had any issues, yes I'm subscribed to your channel with notifications
John B sorry for that sometimes I’m too late in sending out a link to the TH-cam live but if you’re subscribe to the channel with that alert button clicked you’ll get a notification from TH-cam every time I go live!!
Check your spam and trash folders. That is what happened to me and I found that they were going to span folder.
checked , not there
Largest and smallest in a package, but 800 would be the most used. Twist lock cap is best. Plastic adapter is fine.
I agree
With the cup filter you still need the Gun filter as well?
Roger / Marlon no thats the point
what gun besides an airless gun carries a filter inside the gun itself??? enlighten me please. I want to learn.
did you come out with a system
I cant help but notice but are those 2 purple/chrome spray guns in the background @ 6:50 from harbor freight?
10 FEET HIGHER MAGA good eye... those of the guns I show you Not to paint with. Lol.
@@HowToPaintYourCar lol, well, I did buy an atom x21 1.4 green tip from zoolaa, sprayed for the very first time in my life, gun is fantastic! It was the Ford Molten Orange color, Tri-coat, and all I did was watch all your youtube videos and take notes, Thank You! I did leave a good review with pictures on amazon for the atom x21. Although I did buy that kit from HF and used the bigger gun only with the 1.8 tip to lay down the high build primer, worked ok, zoolaa was out of the 1.8 tips for my atom x21.
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B078Z53WR5/ref=mw_dp_cr
ART, NEW ORLEANS. GREAT PROGRAMS.
Thanks, Art!
Thank you Art! Keep smiling my man!!
Is there a adapter that will fit my spectrum hte paint gun ?
PPS adapters, you can find charts for the exact one for your gun, i wanna say it was s15 but not positive.
@@Shawnmason69 thanks👍
So what happen to the better than 3M PPS System? All this info on how to paint your car is not what I am looking for. Iam looking for a better alternative than 3M PPS.
Will the cups with the two snaps work with a pps adapter?
Yes, check out the QKS System.. we also have the adapters available! www.zoolaa.com/products/quik-kup-system-disposable-paint-cup-jobber-packs
Do you make male adapters? I have iwata airgunsa gun
would definitely be interested in this
J! Have you checked out Zoolaa? Check the Atom Spray Guns! www.zoolaa.com/
Is there a bottom feed system or syphon feed pps
yes and yes. I prefer the bottom feed. More pressure through the gun than gravity if used properly.
Or you can put a o ring around it would be faster and u can re used it.
oh damn! was just looking at these online ;)
So who makes this new cup system? I don't think you ever said.
Manufacturers I met in SEMA!
I guess I'm the only person who regrets buying the pps system. Compared to purchasing cups locally, I literally can afford to use and throw away a cheap sprayer for every car.
3m masking tape rules.... 🤠
Alonzoelden Johnson that’s because you’ve never tried American tape.... :) but I also use 3M.
160 would be better I use for small jobs.2sizes might be geat too
Sorry I missed you live maybe the next one...
Yeah, Jerry! Hope you can join on the next one!
Why would ya need it for top feed lol bottom feed is the pain..
Yes here
that shit will leak like super quick with the snap system. collar I think would be much more reliable.
See you, and hear you 5 by 5 .
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Al in a pack yes
I don't like the plastic clips, a better solution is needed
conform or be left behind. Until robots take your job over, you should use the best option so you can eat.
Good video
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300, 600, 900ml
They look flimsy to me, and for the money, I don't see converting. Sell a proven product.
John B The collar type is proven and they already selling hundreds of thousands in Europe. The clip type is a new design which I’m testing out
@@HowToPaintYourCar If you can't make mad profits converting to pps then your probably not able to see the fine details of your hand in front of your face.
Better late than never...lol. From Aussie
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First time here!
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i spend a lot of money on PPS every month
Me first time here
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Really?
see ya great
Stick to the PPG system, you stray away from it to much.
PPG?
dude stop messin' around, just get all of them.
I would only consider the twist lids.
Thanks for the feedback Edwin! Just testing everything out first!
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