Professional Songwriter Reveals Secrets To Killer Choruses - RecordingRevolution.com

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  • @cronos5335
    @cronos5335 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I would absolutely love more videos about song writing. I get writers block and lose interest a lot lately and it's killin me.

  • @PhilosopherFool
    @PhilosopherFool 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Videos with these titles are usually just content fluff pieces with general common sense-type advice, but this was insightful, the explanations on point... Great video guys. Thank you!

    • @recordingrevolution
      @recordingrevolution  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Martin is the real deal!

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  • @thebreakfastmenu
    @thebreakfastmenu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Simple music for simple people."
    You have to ask yourself if you really WANT a chorus like this.

  • @rickyguitarman3839
    @rickyguitarman3839 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    great video however, he could also mention that _melody_ is the MOST important key when writing a song, you can add some lyrics on the chorus like _oohhhlalalalababababluhh_ with the right melody/scale behind that shit, you have yourself a HIT!!

  • @freakyfred543
    @freakyfred543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this video. I am a veteran of the military and I am getting started in my songwriting career late in life. I am looking forward to your future videos.

  • @rubendaviso
    @rubendaviso 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a musician and songwriter myself, I really appreciate this! The content in this video is pretty much gold in the music industry now a days. Thanks so much, Graham!

  • @ShallieDragon
    @ShallieDragon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Songwriting is definitely an area I kind of struggle with. So, I'm definitely interested in seeing more videos on it.

  • @JackTheRabbitMusic
    @JackTheRabbitMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just watched my first video with Martin, and I just wanna give this dude a hug. I have been writing songs since age 5, and still do it. It is a fantastic journey.🐰❤️🎸🎶🤝✌️

    • @hkage5211
      @hkage5211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That great man.
      When I was 5 year old I didn't even know how to wipe my nose

  • @IainFrame
    @IainFrame ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. Absolutely right, got to trust the process. It works for a reason.

  • @christinalaurice6464
    @christinalaurice6464 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m deaf myself and just got out of a 20 years of bad relationship. I’m starting to open up more and found out that I truly LOVE music and dancing. I need tutoring. TY

  • @1stHandTV
    @1stHandTV 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I write rap music and this video was more helpful than I expected 👍🏾

  • @Akezevibez
    @Akezevibez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this guys. Those were amazing tips… and I love how he carefully puts his words together and the examples he gave. It’s just perfect. He’s obviously a brilliant songwriter and a great teacher too. 💯❤️🙏🏾🎶

  • @wowerman
    @wowerman ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an eye opener. One phrase and you are already a winner .PDF file no more available sadly.

  • @jetblackkinks
    @jetblackkinks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely would love more! Fun fact, if I had to pick only one topic to watch for the rest of my life it would be songwriting actually lol, so you can't have enough videos about it in my opinion ☺ This was so great, thank you and that gentleman for your service to humanity!!

  • @Appleloucious
    @Appleloucious ปีที่แล้ว

    One Love!
    Always forward, never ever backward!!
    ☀☀☀
    💚💛❤
    🙏🏿🙏🙏🏼

  • @mubafaw
    @mubafaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jheez! Not even a song writer, but this hits hard. This is is so powerful. Mind blowing ! 😊👍

  • @TrueGritProductions
    @TrueGritProductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are both great guys, God bless you

  • @MustafaBaabad
    @MustafaBaabad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe God is happy to see us, human sharing knowledges to improve all of us. Sharing like what you just did on this video is the goal of any religion to improve humanity. God bless you. Thank you!
    Cheers from Indonesia.

  • @GuyTallo
    @GuyTallo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even for a non-songwriter this is gold. Thanks!

  • @MichaelSheaAudio
    @MichaelSheaAudio 6 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    I think it's a nice thought to have this information, but to live by it is a terrible idea. If you really want to write standard pop songs than this is great advice, but really I would encourage you to break all of these rules as often as you can. Keep the listener on their toes. The climax isn't always in the chorus. There's a song I really like that has a good chorus but the actual climax is the guitar solo in the last like 20 seconds of the song. Don't be afraid to put some real thought into a chorus. It doesn't have to be 1 or 2 lines repeated. Even using different lyrics in your choruses. Modern pop songs are all very similar and this is the kind of mindset that contributes to that. Just because it's popular, doesn't mean it's good. Who am I to talk though? I can't even get my friends to download my music for free. :P

    • @FarisMonshi
      @FarisMonshi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      LADDERLAD Music Agreed. This is a decent roadmap, and some good concepts to keep in mind. But yeah, absolutely, we can and should break these rules any time it feels right to you as the artist. I’m personally a huge fan of subtle changes in the lyrics of choruses, especially when they enhance the progression and story arc of the song.

    • @GraemeWoller
      @GraemeWoller 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      At least if you know "the rules" you can choose to step away from them. :)

    • @MichaelSheaAudio
      @MichaelSheaAudio 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's strange because I never really knew the rules. I wasn't taught how to write a song, I just did it. I started with rock when I didn't know how to play my guitar properly yet. Then joined a metalcore band and started writing that style which has absolutely no rules so I think that's where I got it from. Just stringing together random parts in hopes that it will sound good. Then a number of years later, a friend asked me if I wanted to start a band, and I knew he was into classic rock. So really by that point I had never written a good rock song but I tackled it anyway and things went well. Now just from experience I know what I like to write and I know that I can delay a chorus until 2 minutes into a song, skip the second verse, blur the lines between Punk and Metal, etc. It's just something that comes with time.

    • @FarisMonshi
      @FarisMonshi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      LADDERLAD Music good on ya, man. I’m not at all disparaging the merits of those who go about songwriting in a more tried and true fashion (there is a LOT of merit to it, and much to be learned from), but I definitely want to emphasize with you that in some ways it is beneficial to come at this art from a place of greater freedom, and less rigidity and boundaries.
      I learned music from TH-cam tutorials about how to play exactly the songs I was interested in playing. I didn’t care much about proper technique, or what equipment is best. Back then, I just relied on my ears. I wish I would depend on them more nowadays like I did back then. I urge anybody watching this video and reading these comments to explore music creation as the unique artist they are, and trust yourself more than you might feel comfortable with.
      If you’re the kind of musician who spends enough time to read these kinds of comments, you owe it to yourself to have faith in your inspirations, your curiosities, and most importantly YOURSELF, to be willing to break from tradition anywhere you see fit. Whatever comes natural to YOU as the artist, will most assuredly resonate with someone else on this planet. Honest self-expression is rare, and difficult, but we all have it in us.

    • @MichaelSheaAudio
      @MichaelSheaAudio 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said!

  • @averygoth6675
    @averygoth6675 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m going to write a song based on this. This is like the opposite of cliché! The tips are so unique!

  • @mayawhite9743
    @mayawhite9743 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love this and would love to see more content on songwriting!

  • @treversgoh
    @treversgoh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    8.00 "Give me some more milk" hahhaa XD

    • @HarryRotter
      @HarryRotter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If a baby said that in a deep voice like that then I'd definitely take notice!

    • @dman84
      @dman84 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I laughed out Loud at this part! 😂

    • @sabrinalecrivainmediaTM
      @sabrinalecrivainmediaTM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      These 2020 babies will say that. 😆

  • @dman84
    @dman84 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great! I really appreciate the introduction to Mr. Sutton, thank you!

  • @smurfdavinciofficial
    @smurfdavinciofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this video thanks for the help

  • @benaaronmusic
    @benaaronmusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great crash course in choruses.

  • @CognitionHardTrance
    @CognitionHardTrance 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is really helpful. I noted down everything he said and then found out there's a free guide from him too! Excellent content Graham and YES please talk more about song writing! You ROCK!

  • @MarcoMcKinnis1
    @MarcoMcKinnis1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow thank you

  • @lilybanda4605
    @lilybanda4605 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have learnt so much from this
    I believe this will improve my songwriting.Thank you so much and God bless you 🙏

  • @MrGuitarist9891
    @MrGuitarist9891 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic Video! Thanks for posting.

  • @UNREDACTEDTRUTH
    @UNREDACTEDTRUTH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this! just wrote a song today & i naturally used a few of these tips!

  • @hedworm
    @hedworm ปีที่แล้ว

    Really excellent explaination for using a series of tools that will help us creative volcanoes focus things a bit. Thanks 🙏

  • @deeperwithgod7932
    @deeperwithgod7932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent teaching!

  • @jammybilly
    @jammybilly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Graham. This is great. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a hand in persuading or tipping Martin over the edge to start a TH-cam Channel. Thanks for helping us make connections too (Ill Factor, Jordan Valeriote and now Martin). And yes it would be great to learn more about songwriting. Subscribed to Martin's channel and downloaded the PDF. Thanks.

  • @TheC0G
    @TheC0G 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Martin Sutton is a legend! Just coming down from the high after doing the SongWritingAcademy 555 Challenge, one of the most profound weeks of my life!

  • @MM-fi6fd
    @MM-fi6fd ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! The link to that website and 7 step planner is directing to a webhosting site though.. Cheers and thank you!

  • @TrueGritProductions
    @TrueGritProductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tips

  • @beantownmusic3532
    @beantownmusic3532 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would love to see more songwriting workflows , this will be very helpful to everyone on getting ideas to create

  • @ncyclo106
    @ncyclo106 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was an awesome video!!!! Thanks!!!

  • @theyansproject
    @theyansproject 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, would Chorus like below be sufficient to make a statement?
    Verse 1
    Falling
    We know we are falling
    But neither is sorry
    It’s always so sad
    It came without warning
    This gold gloomy morning
    We’ve finished the story
    There’s nothing to add

    And through the clouds slowly

    Chorus:
    Drip-drip-drop
    Falling down from the skies
    Washing off all the lies
    Comes final rain
    No matter how hard we’ve tried
    With nothing else left to hide
    Leaving us both behind
    It came to the end


    Verse 2
    Maybe
    We’ll meet again maybe
    Both happy and carefree
    It happens sometimes…
    …But rain keeps on pouring
    And there is no turning
    When light is not burning
    And souls do not rhyme

  • @TheErow44
    @TheErow44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You seem like a genuine guy who is passionate about what you do, I will definitely check out your content. Graham, YES!! Definitely more song writing content, Thank You!!!

    • @FarisMonshi
      @FarisMonshi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TheErow44 hey man, if you’re new to Graham’s stuff, let me just say welcome, and that you’re about to dive into some of the most legit audio related content out there 👍🏼

  • @EvanMasonMusic
    @EvanMasonMusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Tips and Sound Advice. Simultaneously, there is and isn't a formula.

  • @user-ct8pd1pw2n
    @user-ct8pd1pw2n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love this type of video, more on songwriting please :)

  • @conniearnold1053
    @conniearnold1053 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was simply beautiful you can see and feel the excitement in you both. There is no question why he is where he is because he loves what he does!! By the way this is my first time on here!!!!! Subscribed☺

  • @viktorpolasek6123
    @viktorpolasek6123 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Graham! Thanks for focusing a bit more to songwriting videos. Your main area is somewhere else but as you say - these are the basics...

  • @joseferro1432
    @joseferro1432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video! Excellent! Unfortunately, the link for the 7 step method PDF doesn't work. Where can I get this?

  • @jphi1000
    @jphi1000 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm having issues with songwriting lately. When I get to my computer I'll be downloading that 7 step PDF. I've heard some songs that have been engineered great that do nothing for me, and I've heard songs where the audio quality isn't the best but I love the song. Keep up the videos

  • @arujunior3410
    @arujunior3410 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice tip Graham. I subscribed to your TH-cam channel because of mixing. Now you've given me a new road to look at. THANKS VERY MUCH

  • @johnpucilla7157
    @johnpucilla7157 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent advice. Thank you for sharing your expertise. The key words as stated., " Don't complicate things. "
    Regards,
    songwriter
    John Pucilla

  • @DavidRosario69
    @DavidRosario69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Songs often also have a "bridge"; where would you place the bridge in relation to the chorus? Would it be the peak of the mountain or something else? How about a chorus on a modulated key?

  • @mattpetello
    @mattpetello 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned a ton from this video. I can already sense it in some songs that I know and love. Thank you.

  • @AaronSteve
    @AaronSteve 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @luisandres7890
    @luisandres7890 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for giving this video! It's really helpful!

  • @elvinlewis4233
    @elvinlewis4233 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative. I think one still has to be careful to stay original, but this is definitely a huge help.

  • @TowersBusinessSolutions-zv8ps
    @TowersBusinessSolutions-zv8ps ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really amazing
    Thanks for teaching thia amazing topic

  • @VarunDhabe
    @VarunDhabe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    need more of this!

  • @alexseemusic
    @alexseemusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Martin is awesome!! Thanks Martin and Graham for this video.

  • @samizzy
    @samizzy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really excited for this new channel by Martin and really great vid graham !!

  • @fabricator.cap.hill.seattle
    @fabricator.cap.hill.seattle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, no songwriter is too big for these tips.

  • @kokkkztse
    @kokkkztse 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes i want to know more about it! Thanks you Graham Teacher

  • @skiptrace1888
    @skiptrace1888 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely man with a giving heart. Excellent content & advice! Thanks for promoting Song Writing Academy! :-)))

  • @nstewart111
    @nstewart111 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always enjoy this channel. Most helpful

  • @luiszapiola355
    @luiszapiola355 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks great info !!

  • @davidbrucemusicvideo
    @davidbrucemusicvideo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus, this guy is amazing! Not only is he giving away amazing info, he’s giving his 7 step method info out FOR FREE??? Wha?!
    And this guy’s tips were freaking amazing! I have never thought of songwriting that way, and I have been writing good songs for quite a few years now. I’m joining that channel, and grabbing that PDF! Thank you for posting this video here!

  • @DeanBenn
    @DeanBenn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Graham. Another great one.

  • @jaybliss0005
    @jaybliss0005 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for this tips. I did searched for the 7steps song planner on pdf but didn't get that showed up

  • @zackbolles359
    @zackbolles359 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @lindaandanthonysjewelry6800
    @lindaandanthonysjewelry6800 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes I just picked up some very helpful songwriting skill.

  • @johnford5769
    @johnford5769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is Amazing information. Thank you

  • @TitiJackys
    @TitiJackys 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for what you give to us on every video. (and yeah we want more of these kind of videos !!!)

  • @ashermohr3482
    @ashermohr3482 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is really interesting, the thing about melodic contour, and having choruses as being higher than the verses, I think this advice is more how to keep in with most other classic pop songs - if anybody has heard of the recent hit 'girls like you' by maroon 5, their chorus is way lower than the verse and pre-choruses. What you can use that isn't mentioned here (although it's great) is rhythmic contour. So taking this back to 'girls like you', the chorus hear mostly falls on beats 1, fairly consistently. Ed Sheeran uses this a lot in his hits, take 'Galway Girl' or 'Lego House'.

  • @anthonycrothers_Photography
    @anthonycrothers_Photography 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there, only just come across this excellent video. I would love the 7 step PDF, but the link is no longer working it would seem. 🤷‍♂️

  • @stanblue8055
    @stanblue8055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been writing for over 25 years. Can I send you some of my songs to see if it's worth it?

  • @Moi-io7yi
    @Moi-io7yi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for sharing this video. I'd been questioning myself about the use of questions or direct action in some of my lyrics of late and this video resonated. I have so much to learn while loving the process. So thank you from my Muse & I here in the tropics on a cool n breezy night 😊🎶

  • @JohannesLabusch
    @JohannesLabusch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The lyrics to Bowie's Life on Mars are poetry. Simplistic hit making recipes don't apply to it. I dare you to explain "the point" of that song. I fear the days of that kind of writing leading to major hits are over.

    • @himoong
      @himoong 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's good point

    • @BabyMalushky
      @BabyMalushky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EXACTLY THANK YOU

  • @Pearlpassionstudio
    @Pearlpassionstudio 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent points here..Thanks

  • @charlesmau5142
    @charlesmau5142 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very good lesson.Keep up the good work sir.

  • @Peterhearnemusic
    @Peterhearnemusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video very helpful I would love a copy of the planner but the link appears to be locked

  • @deathbysonar
    @deathbysonar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think this is great advice that can be used in all genres. Thanks.

  • @tdrake59
    @tdrake59 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't believe how many hit songwriters are criticizing this video.
    On a serious note. I cannot seem to load the songwritingacademy.com, it pings, but nothing loads.

  • @Handler870
    @Handler870 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant! Thank you guys for bringing this content. 👍👍

  • @gloriagomez8336
    @gloriagomez8336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this video great tips

  • @MrAchris10
    @MrAchris10 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @angelalara6668
    @angelalara6668 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you!

  • @martinjohnson2549
    @martinjohnson2549 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:31 wonder where bridge, and guitar solo lay in this metaphor

  • @yunggarrello5826
    @yunggarrello5826 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't access the pdf

  • @emeraldstream
    @emeraldstream ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video- sure, keep em comin

  • @WheelieMix
    @WheelieMix 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Video start from a good idea but the advices here can be easily broken :
    - Verse low / Chorus high : Nope : The Pixies - Where Is My Mind. It' not the fact that it is low or high that makes a chorus stand out, it's the contrast. Something more modern : Taylor Swift - Look What You Make Me Do. The Chorus stand out because it has a huge contrast with the verse. And it's way lower. But it catch listener attention.
    - The Verse low / Pre chorus climbing / Chorus high is soooooo overused nowadays that it can sounds generic and boring.
    - Use interrogation in a chorus - call to action - a statement. Okay this is like maybe 90% of the entire language expression... So use almost whatever you want in chorus...
    Writing hits songs is being innovative by still using stuff that are common enough to not loose the listener into confusion. But it's all about making new with old and being really clever about words and vocal placement. IMO.

  • @anointedminstreltv8881
    @anointedminstreltv8881 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please I want the 7 step song planner from the song writing academy.

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great! Please tell us more about song writing theme.

  • @cagnonrocks
    @cagnonrocks 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. Though I think about songs like Message in a Bottle or Where is my mind, Karma Police... where the chorus might be the lowest point in the song. Yet it creates something fantastic. I guess writing a song can be about forgetting the rules sometimes.

  • @PTRuzki47
    @PTRuzki47 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video man! I'm actually writing a song and it has all this great tips, and I totally agree with them!

  • @chiparooo
    @chiparooo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff. Thanks for sharing!

  • @ZainabConteh-fp3kk
    @ZainabConteh-fp3kk ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great

  • @mathismarshall8242
    @mathismarshall8242 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very helpful, thank you!

  • @CreativeGamingDorthea
    @CreativeGamingDorthea 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, I'm going to buy a microphon for recording vocals, I have seen your video from a year ago were you say an audio tecnica AT-2020 is great, buuuuuuut, should it be the XLR or USB version? And What audio interface should I use?

  • @cristianandrade9987
    @cristianandrade9987 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone have the pdf??? Please link me!

  • @papa_da_engineer
    @papa_da_engineer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video as usual Graham🙏🙌 and I just subscribed to that channel sounds awesome to me 🎶

  • @iRodAux
    @iRodAux 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it !
    Yes i NEED more content on songwriting please :)

  • @ministeretta5712
    @ministeretta5712 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t access the planner, can someone please help me out?