Videos with these titles are usually just content fluff pieces with general common sense-type advice, but this was insightful, the explanations on point... Great video guys. Thank you!
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Thanks for this video. I am a veteran of the military and I am getting started in my songwriting career late in life. I am looking forward to your future videos.
As a musician and songwriter myself, I really appreciate this! The content in this video is pretty much gold in the music industry now a days. Thanks so much, Graham!
I believe God is happy to see us, human sharing knowledges to improve all of us. Sharing like what you just did on this video is the goal of any religion to improve humanity. God bless you. Thank you! Cheers from Indonesia.
I’m deaf myself and just got out of a 20 years of bad relationship. I’m starting to open up more and found out that I truly LOVE music and dancing. I need tutoring. TY
I love this guys. Those were amazing tips… and I love how he carefully puts his words together and the examples he gave. It’s just perfect. He’s obviously a brilliant songwriter and a great teacher too. 💯❤️🙏🏾🎶
great video however, he could also mention that _melody_ is the MOST important key when writing a song, you can add some lyrics on the chorus like _oohhhlalalalababababluhh_ with the right melody/scale behind that shit, you have yourself a HIT!!
I just watched my first video with Martin, and I just wanna give this dude a hug. I have been writing songs since age 5, and still do it. It is a fantastic journey.🐰❤️🎸🎶🤝✌️
Absolutely would love more! Fun fact, if I had to pick only one topic to watch for the rest of my life it would be songwriting actually lol, so you can't have enough videos about it in my opinion ☺ This was so great, thank you and that gentleman for your service to humanity!!
This video is really helpful. I noted down everything he said and then found out there's a free guide from him too! Excellent content Graham and YES please talk more about song writing! You ROCK!
This was simply beautiful you can see and feel the excitement in you both. There is no question why he is where he is because he loves what he does!! By the way this is my first time on here!!!!! Subscribed☺
Thanks Graham. This is great. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a hand in persuading or tipping Martin over the edge to start a TH-cam Channel. Thanks for helping us make connections too (Ill Factor, Jordan Valeriote and now Martin). And yes it would be great to learn more about songwriting. Subscribed to Martin's channel and downloaded the PDF. Thanks.
Hi, would Chorus like below be sufficient to make a statement? Verse 1 Falling We know we are falling But neither is sorry It’s always so sad It came without warning This gold gloomy morning We’ve finished the story There’s nothing to add
And through the clouds slowly
Chorus: Drip-drip-drop Falling down from the skies Washing off all the lies Comes final rain No matter how hard we’ve tried With nothing else left to hide Leaving us both behind It came to the end
Verse 2 Maybe We’ll meet again maybe Both happy and carefree It happens sometimes… …But rain keeps on pouring And there is no turning When light is not burning And souls do not rhyme
I'm having issues with songwriting lately. When I get to my computer I'll be downloading that 7 step PDF. I've heard some songs that have been engineered great that do nothing for me, and I've heard songs where the audio quality isn't the best but I love the song. Keep up the videos
Songs often also have a "bridge"; where would you place the bridge in relation to the chorus? Would it be the peak of the mountain or something else? How about a chorus on a modulated key?
I think it's a nice thought to have this information, but to live by it is a terrible idea. If you really want to write standard pop songs than this is great advice, but really I would encourage you to break all of these rules as often as you can. Keep the listener on their toes. The climax isn't always in the chorus. There's a song I really like that has a good chorus but the actual climax is the guitar solo in the last like 20 seconds of the song. Don't be afraid to put some real thought into a chorus. It doesn't have to be 1 or 2 lines repeated. Even using different lyrics in your choruses. Modern pop songs are all very similar and this is the kind of mindset that contributes to that. Just because it's popular, doesn't mean it's good. Who am I to talk though? I can't even get my friends to download my music for free. :P
LADDERLAD Music Agreed. This is a decent roadmap, and some good concepts to keep in mind. But yeah, absolutely, we can and should break these rules any time it feels right to you as the artist. I’m personally a huge fan of subtle changes in the lyrics of choruses, especially when they enhance the progression and story arc of the song.
It's strange because I never really knew the rules. I wasn't taught how to write a song, I just did it. I started with rock when I didn't know how to play my guitar properly yet. Then joined a metalcore band and started writing that style which has absolutely no rules so I think that's where I got it from. Just stringing together random parts in hopes that it will sound good. Then a number of years later, a friend asked me if I wanted to start a band, and I knew he was into classic rock. So really by that point I had never written a good rock song but I tackled it anyway and things went well. Now just from experience I know what I like to write and I know that I can delay a chorus until 2 minutes into a song, skip the second verse, blur the lines between Punk and Metal, etc. It's just something that comes with time.
LADDERLAD Music good on ya, man. I’m not at all disparaging the merits of those who go about songwriting in a more tried and true fashion (there is a LOT of merit to it, and much to be learned from), but I definitely want to emphasize with you that in some ways it is beneficial to come at this art from a place of greater freedom, and less rigidity and boundaries. I learned music from TH-cam tutorials about how to play exactly the songs I was interested in playing. I didn’t care much about proper technique, or what equipment is best. Back then, I just relied on my ears. I wish I would depend on them more nowadays like I did back then. I urge anybody watching this video and reading these comments to explore music creation as the unique artist they are, and trust yourself more than you might feel comfortable with. If you’re the kind of musician who spends enough time to read these kinds of comments, you owe it to yourself to have faith in your inspirations, your curiosities, and most importantly YOURSELF, to be willing to break from tradition anywhere you see fit. Whatever comes natural to YOU as the artist, will most assuredly resonate with someone else on this planet. Honest self-expression is rare, and difficult, but we all have it in us.
You seem like a genuine guy who is passionate about what you do, I will definitely check out your content. Graham, YES!! Definitely more song writing content, Thank You!!!
TheErow44 hey man, if you’re new to Graham’s stuff, let me just say welcome, and that you’re about to dive into some of the most legit audio related content out there 👍🏼
Thank you so much for sharing this video. I'd been questioning myself about the use of questions or direct action in some of my lyrics of late and this video resonated. I have so much to learn while loving the process. So thank you from my Muse & I here in the tropics on a cool n breezy night 😊🎶
Hey, I'm going to buy a microphon for recording vocals, I have seen your video from a year ago were you say an audio tecnica AT-2020 is great, buuuuuuut, should it be the XLR or USB version? And What audio interface should I use?
This is really interesting, the thing about melodic contour, and having choruses as being higher than the verses, I think this advice is more how to keep in with most other classic pop songs - if anybody has heard of the recent hit 'girls like you' by maroon 5, their chorus is way lower than the verse and pre-choruses. What you can use that isn't mentioned here (although it's great) is rhythmic contour. So taking this back to 'girls like you', the chorus hear mostly falls on beats 1, fairly consistently. Ed Sheeran uses this a lot in his hits, take 'Galway Girl' or 'Lego House'.
I would absolutely love more videos about song writing. I get writers block and lose interest a lot lately and it's killin me.
Videos with these titles are usually just content fluff pieces with general common sense-type advice, but this was insightful, the explanations on point... Great video guys. Thank you!
Martin is the real deal!
I dont mean to be so off topic but does any of you know a trick to get back into an instagram account??
I was dumb lost the password. I love any tips you can offer me!
@Houston Vihaan instablaster ;)
@Ismael Alessandro I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and Im in the hacking process now.
I see it takes quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
@Ismael Alessandro It worked and I now got access to my account again. I am so happy:D
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Thanks for this video. I am a veteran of the military and I am getting started in my songwriting career late in life. I am looking forward to your future videos.
As a musician and songwriter myself, I really appreciate this! The content in this video is pretty much gold in the music industry now a days. Thanks so much, Graham!
"Simple music for simple people."
You have to ask yourself if you really WANT a chorus like this.
I believe God is happy to see us, human sharing knowledges to improve all of us. Sharing like what you just did on this video is the goal of any religion to improve humanity. God bless you. Thank you!
Cheers from Indonesia.
I’m deaf myself and just got out of a 20 years of bad relationship. I’m starting to open up more and found out that I truly LOVE music and dancing. I need tutoring. TY
Good video. Absolutely right, got to trust the process. It works for a reason.
I love this guys. Those were amazing tips… and I love how he carefully puts his words together and the examples he gave. It’s just perfect. He’s obviously a brilliant songwriter and a great teacher too. 💯❤️🙏🏾🎶
Songwriting is definitely an area I kind of struggle with. So, I'm definitely interested in seeing more videos on it.
I write rap music and this video was more helpful than I expected 👍🏾
You are both great guys, God bless you
great video however, he could also mention that _melody_ is the MOST important key when writing a song, you can add some lyrics on the chorus like _oohhhlalalalababababluhh_ with the right melody/scale behind that shit, you have yourself a HIT!!
😊👍👍
I just watched my first video with Martin, and I just wanna give this dude a hug. I have been writing songs since age 5, and still do it. It is a fantastic journey.🐰❤️🎸🎶🤝✌️
That great man.
When I was 5 year old I didn't even know how to wipe my nose
I’m going to write a song based on this. This is like the opposite of cliché! The tips are so unique!
Jheez! Not even a song writer, but this hits hard. This is is so powerful. Mind blowing ! 😊👍
Even for a non-songwriter this is gold. Thanks!
Absolutely would love more! Fun fact, if I had to pick only one topic to watch for the rest of my life it would be songwriting actually lol, so you can't have enough videos about it in my opinion ☺ This was so great, thank you and that gentleman for your service to humanity!!
This is an eye opener. One phrase and you are already a winner .PDF file no more available sadly.
Love this and would love to see more content on songwriting!
Wow thank you
This was great! I really appreciate the introduction to Mr. Sutton, thank you!
I have learnt so much from this
I believe this will improve my songwriting.Thank you so much and God bless you 🙏
This is a great crash course in choruses.
I love this video thanks for the help
Martin Sutton is a legend! Just coming down from the high after doing the SongWritingAcademy 555 Challenge, one of the most profound weeks of my life!
That was an awesome video!!!! Thanks!!!
Fantastic Video! Thanks for posting.
Excellent advice. Thank you for sharing your expertise. The key words as stated., " Don't complicate things. "
Regards,
songwriter
John Pucilla
love this! just wrote a song today & i naturally used a few of these tips!
Excellent teaching!
Great tips
This video is really helpful. I noted down everything he said and then found out there's a free guide from him too! Excellent content Graham and YES please talk more about song writing! You ROCK!
8.00 "Give me some more milk" hahhaa XD
If a baby said that in a deep voice like that then I'd definitely take notice!
I laughed out Loud at this part! 😂
These 2020 babies will say that. 😆
One Love!
Always forward, never ever backward!!
☀☀☀
💚💛❤
🙏🏿🙏🙏🏼
Really excellent explaination for using a series of tools that will help us creative volcanoes focus things a bit. Thanks 🙏
Thanks for giving this video! It's really helpful!
Great Tips and Sound Advice. Simultaneously, there is and isn't a formula.
would love to see more songwriting workflows , this will be very helpful to everyone on getting ideas to create
Awesome Graham! Thanks for focusing a bit more to songwriting videos. Your main area is somewhere else but as you say - these are the basics...
Love this type of video, more on songwriting please :)
Very nice tip Graham. I subscribed to your TH-cam channel because of mixing. Now you've given me a new road to look at. THANKS VERY MUCH
Very informative. I think one still has to be careful to stay original, but this is definitely a huge help.
need more of this!
I learned a ton from this video. I can already sense it in some songs that I know and love. Thank you.
This was simply beautiful you can see and feel the excitement in you both. There is no question why he is where he is because he loves what he does!! By the way this is my first time on here!!!!! Subscribed☺
Thanks Graham. This is great. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a hand in persuading or tipping Martin over the edge to start a TH-cam Channel. Thanks for helping us make connections too (Ill Factor, Jordan Valeriote and now Martin). And yes it would be great to learn more about songwriting. Subscribed to Martin's channel and downloaded the PDF. Thanks.
Thank you
This is really amazing
Thanks for teaching thia amazing topic
Hi, would Chorus like below be sufficient to make a statement?
Verse 1
Falling
We know we are falling
But neither is sorry
It’s always so sad
It came without warning
This gold gloomy morning
We’ve finished the story
There’s nothing to add
And through the clouds slowly
Chorus:
Drip-drip-drop
Falling down from the skies
Washing off all the lies
Comes final rain
No matter how hard we’ve tried
With nothing else left to hide
Leaving us both behind
It came to the end
Verse 2
Maybe
We’ll meet again maybe
Both happy and carefree
It happens sometimes…
…But rain keeps on pouring
And there is no turning
When light is not burning
And souls do not rhyme
Really excited for this new channel by Martin and really great vid graham !!
Always enjoy this channel. Most helpful
I love this video! Excellent! Unfortunately, the link for the 7 step method PDF doesn't work. Where can I get this?
I'm having issues with songwriting lately. When I get to my computer I'll be downloading that 7 step PDF. I've heard some songs that have been engineered great that do nothing for me, and I've heard songs where the audio quality isn't the best but I love the song. Keep up the videos
Great video! The link to that website and 7 step planner is directing to a webhosting site though.. Cheers and thank you!
Yes I just picked up some very helpful songwriting skill.
Martin is awesome!! Thanks Martin and Graham for this video.
Yes i want to know more about it! Thanks you Graham Teacher
Thank you Graham. Another great one.
Thanks great info !!
Lovely man with a giving heart. Excellent content & advice! Thanks for promoting Song Writing Academy! :-)))
Songs often also have a "bridge"; where would you place the bridge in relation to the chorus? Would it be the peak of the mountain or something else? How about a chorus on a modulated key?
Thank you so much for what you give to us on every video. (and yeah we want more of these kind of videos !!!)
This is Amazing information. Thank you
I think it's a nice thought to have this information, but to live by it is a terrible idea. If you really want to write standard pop songs than this is great advice, but really I would encourage you to break all of these rules as often as you can. Keep the listener on their toes. The climax isn't always in the chorus. There's a song I really like that has a good chorus but the actual climax is the guitar solo in the last like 20 seconds of the song. Don't be afraid to put some real thought into a chorus. It doesn't have to be 1 or 2 lines repeated. Even using different lyrics in your choruses. Modern pop songs are all very similar and this is the kind of mindset that contributes to that. Just because it's popular, doesn't mean it's good. Who am I to talk though? I can't even get my friends to download my music for free. :P
LADDERLAD Music Agreed. This is a decent roadmap, and some good concepts to keep in mind. But yeah, absolutely, we can and should break these rules any time it feels right to you as the artist. I’m personally a huge fan of subtle changes in the lyrics of choruses, especially when they enhance the progression and story arc of the song.
At least if you know "the rules" you can choose to step away from them. :)
It's strange because I never really knew the rules. I wasn't taught how to write a song, I just did it. I started with rock when I didn't know how to play my guitar properly yet. Then joined a metalcore band and started writing that style which has absolutely no rules so I think that's where I got it from. Just stringing together random parts in hopes that it will sound good. Then a number of years later, a friend asked me if I wanted to start a band, and I knew he was into classic rock. So really by that point I had never written a good rock song but I tackled it anyway and things went well. Now just from experience I know what I like to write and I know that I can delay a chorus until 2 minutes into a song, skip the second verse, blur the lines between Punk and Metal, etc. It's just something that comes with time.
LADDERLAD Music good on ya, man. I’m not at all disparaging the merits of those who go about songwriting in a more tried and true fashion (there is a LOT of merit to it, and much to be learned from), but I definitely want to emphasize with you that in some ways it is beneficial to come at this art from a place of greater freedom, and less rigidity and boundaries.
I learned music from TH-cam tutorials about how to play exactly the songs I was interested in playing. I didn’t care much about proper technique, or what equipment is best. Back then, I just relied on my ears. I wish I would depend on them more nowadays like I did back then. I urge anybody watching this video and reading these comments to explore music creation as the unique artist they are, and trust yourself more than you might feel comfortable with.
If you’re the kind of musician who spends enough time to read these kinds of comments, you owe it to yourself to have faith in your inspirations, your curiosities, and most importantly YOURSELF, to be willing to break from tradition anywhere you see fit. Whatever comes natural to YOU as the artist, will most assuredly resonate with someone else on this planet. Honest self-expression is rare, and difficult, but we all have it in us.
Well said!
Excellent points here..Thanks
A very good lesson.Keep up the good work sir.
Awesome, thank you!
Great video, no songwriter is too big for these tips.
Thanks so much for this tips. I did searched for the 7steps song planner on pdf but didn't get that showed up
Brilliant! Thank you guys for bringing this content. 👍👍
This is very helpful, thank you!
You seem like a genuine guy who is passionate about what you do, I will definitely check out your content. Graham, YES!! Definitely more song writing content, Thank You!!!
TheErow44 hey man, if you’re new to Graham’s stuff, let me just say welcome, and that you’re about to dive into some of the most legit audio related content out there 👍🏼
Great video. Thanks for sharing!
love this video great tips
Great video very helpful I would love a copy of the planner but the link appears to be locked
Great stuff. Thanks for sharing!
thank you!
Thank you so much for sharing this video. I'd been questioning myself about the use of questions or direct action in some of my lyrics of late and this video resonated. I have so much to learn while loving the process. So thank you from my Muse & I here in the tropics on a cool n breezy night 😊🎶
Great video! Super helful!
Please I want the 7 step song planner from the song writing academy.
This is great
Been writing for over 25 years. Can I send you some of my songs to see if it's worth it?
Hi there, only just come across this excellent video. I would love the 7 step PDF, but the link is no longer working it would seem. 🤷♂️
Great! Please tell us more about song writing theme.
A baby don’t say “ Give Me Some More Milk “ 😂😂😂 I busted out laughing
Great Info, more please!
Best Advice!!!
I can't access the pdf
Yes, more songwriting contents please :)
Nice video- sure, keep em comin
Great! Thanks I think the 7 steps song planner's link is not working
Anyone have the pdf??? Please link me!
Hey, I'm going to buy a microphon for recording vocals, I have seen your video from a year ago were you say an audio tecnica AT-2020 is great, buuuuuuut, should it be the XLR or USB version? And What audio interface should I use?
This is really interesting, the thing about melodic contour, and having choruses as being higher than the verses, I think this advice is more how to keep in with most other classic pop songs - if anybody has heard of the recent hit 'girls like you' by maroon 5, their chorus is way lower than the verse and pre-choruses. What you can use that isn't mentioned here (although it's great) is rhythmic contour. So taking this back to 'girls like you', the chorus hear mostly falls on beats 1, fairly consistently. Ed Sheeran uses this a lot in his hits, take 'Galway Girl' or 'Lego House'.
This video is like too much great information
Love it !
Yes i NEED more content on songwriting please :)
Beautiful
I think this is great advice that can be used in all genres. Thanks.
Is Martin Sutton still running the Songwriting academy ? his channel has had no new vids for the past year.
They currently have a 555 Songwriting Course...starts on jan 4th-8 u can check it out on their (website) cuz' they have a Holiday deal...