As long as you've lived here surely you've noticed that intelligent life is rare here especially in government. And that goes for all of SE Asia. Like all politicians they only care about reelection.
thank you for these insights, its great to have you talking about this (much needed) subject , we appreciate all the information that you are providing us with, I really really cant even imagine in my head a modern Thailand that would ever go back to its dark past. possible we might see a much larger protests come out of this situation if demands aren't listened to by the seemingly 'moronic government'.
Quantifying the value of allowing free use of cannabis against its harm is not simple. The value of cigarettes is low compared with the harm. Alcohol has a cultural place is many parts of the world but its harm is substantial. There are reports of violence associated with alcohol in the Thai news every day. Coffee does not seem to harm society.
weeds legal in canada and has been since 2018, no real issue due to legalization. I was in bangkok couple months ago the the weed there was awesome, but the cost were double what we pay for legal weed here in canada and I was happy to pay those prices. Maybe the thai government should tax the hell outa weed, and than everyone will have a 😄
Mr. Hart speaks well and appears to be a well trained lawyer - though Integrity Legal Thailand does not cite his law school, past American legal experience, where he is licensed to practice law. Mr. Hart just reads from newspapers (Bangkok Post, Pattaya Mail), in past ranting about TH-camrs citing bad information about Thai tax without citing the source or posting the link of the "bad information" - I've become tired of Mr. Hart just ranting and speculating. Is he a tax lawyer - which is a very specialize legal skill? Integrity Legal Thailand website does not cite the lawyers in the firm and their experience, year established, cites a US office with no US contact information. What does his firm's Thai lawyers think about the issues Mr. Hart continually rants and speculates about? What does local Thai news media say or does he (his Thai colleagues) not even follow the local media? Does Mr. Hart have any channels to the US Embassy, American-Thai Chamber of Commerce, Thai government offices, other embassies or chambers of commerce? Seems like Mr. Hart has no 3rd party contacts. Just rants and speculation. Am I the only one seeing this?
Your comment is riddled with logical fallacies. First, the ad hominem attack on Mr. Hart's credentials and firm website diverts attention from the actual arguments he makes about cannabis regulation. This is a classic example of an appeal to authority fallacy, where you dismiss valid points because of perceived credentials rather than the merit of the arguments themselves. Additionally, your straw man fallacy misrepresents Mr. Hart's use of reputable sources like the Bangkok Post as mere "ranting" and "speculation." Instead of addressing the substantive points he raises, you focus on discrediting his character and the presentation of his information. Evaluating arguments should rely on their logical structure and factual basis, not personal attacks or unfounded assumptions.
Dr i have depression..ganja very good......Dr i have Pain...ganja very good.....Dr i have anxiety...Ganja very good.. Dr i have sleeping problems...Ganja very good...Dr i have eating problems...Ganja very good... Dr i wish to feel good and relaxed...Ganje ver BAD it's DRUGS you should never touch it....what a laugh. You can use it for anything excpet feeling good.
We drink, so alcohol is ok no matter how destructive or how completely hypocritical we ignoramuses are. Marijuana is the devil, all the sheep say so.....
The decriminalization of cannabis as done in Thailand is a great idea. I say decriminalization because it has been delisted from the narcotics code and thus, anything to do with the unprocessed flower seems to be unenforceable. It can also be legalized with the issuance of licenses for its sale, the sale of its processed goods, and tax purposes, as you've already suggested. Now, I believe, that it should be tested and we should strive for maximum quality as it is being done in other countries such as the USA. Focusing on relisting seems to be counterproductive.
much ado about nothing.. medical weed shops will be open, so all weed shops will have a online doctor at call, you go in you have a "consult" and you get weed..
Here in South Africa we have the same issues. Cannabis is 'legal' and weed shops are everywhere. Still, there is no clarity regarding law and people are still being arrested or harassed by the police for possession. But, like with same-sex marriage being legalised, our society didn't crumble and lots more people now have work (we need that, since our unemployment rate is almost at 50%). One important thing to note is that people who use cannabis are less prone to commit violent crime - a huge issue in South Africa. So, perhaps the positives outweigh the negatives?
Thank you for your continuing efforts to bring reason, logic, and legal insight to this issue. Cannabis policy was one of the reasons that I chose Thailand over many other possible countries to come and spend money. The thought of it being relisted as a "drug" is appalling, and there are many others here who agree but don't want to speak out. It could be a golden opportunity for Vietnam or Cambodia though, if they can stand up to the regional elephant in the room...
100 % agreed that's why I chose Thailand Vietnam is way better but ya got to hid like a criminal to have a puff if the nam ever takes a different approach I'm there
It occurs to me that public solicitation for sex is illegal in Thailand. Weed isn't going anywhere. Politicians just backed themselves into a corner with foolish campaign promises, and now they are looking for a way to save face and maybe make some money. That's my take anyway.
I have been living in Thailand for 15 months. On my recent trip to Pattaya I noticed even more cannabis shops have opened during the past year. There is no question that this industry is growing in popularity with Thai people and foreigners. It would be foolhardy for the government to slam these doors shut.
I am confused. If it was delisted under 'emergency power', why can't it be relisted? I am not for relisting, just a question. You are correct, it should go through parliament either way.
Because it was an emergency to get it delisted for many reasons, especially for health and prosperity. Relisting without good reason would be another crime like how it was a crime to make it criminal for no good reason in the first place.
This just seems more and more like hot air from the government, they are continually kicking the can down the road.
As long as you've lived here surely you've noticed that intelligent life is rare here especially in government. And that goes for all of SE Asia. Like all politicians they only care about reelection.
thank you for these insights, its great to have you talking about this (much needed) subject , we appreciate all the information that you are providing us with, I really really cant even imagine in my head a modern Thailand that would ever go back to its dark past. possible we might see a much larger protests come out of this situation if demands aren't listened to by the seemingly 'moronic government'.
Quantifying the value of allowing free use of cannabis against its harm is not simple. The value of cigarettes is low compared with the harm. Alcohol has a cultural place is many parts of the world but its harm is substantial. There are reports of violence associated with alcohol in the Thai news every day. Coffee does not seem to harm society.
neither does marijuana
I’m not sure about the King’s power but, if he decided cannabis was bad can he just say “cannabis bad” and that could be the end of it?
weeds legal in canada and has been since 2018, no real issue due to legalization. I was in bangkok couple months ago the the weed there was awesome, but the cost were double what we pay for legal weed here in canada and I was happy to pay those prices. Maybe the thai government should tax the hell outa weed, and than everyone will have a 😄
Canada is really cheap.
Mr. Hart speaks well and appears to be a well trained lawyer - though Integrity Legal Thailand does not cite his law school, past American legal experience, where he is licensed to practice law. Mr. Hart just reads from newspapers (Bangkok Post, Pattaya Mail), in past ranting about TH-camrs citing bad information about Thai tax without citing the source or posting the link of the "bad information" - I've become tired of Mr. Hart just ranting and speculating. Is he a tax lawyer - which is a very specialize legal skill? Integrity Legal Thailand website does not cite the lawyers in the firm and their experience, year established, cites a US office with no US contact information. What does his firm's Thai lawyers think about the issues Mr. Hart continually rants and speculates about? What does local Thai news media say or does he (his Thai colleagues) not even follow the local media? Does Mr. Hart have any channels to the US Embassy, American-Thai Chamber of Commerce, Thai government offices, other embassies or chambers of commerce? Seems like Mr. Hart has no 3rd party contacts. Just rants and speculation. Am I the only one seeing this?
Your comment is riddled with logical fallacies. First, the ad hominem attack on Mr. Hart's credentials and firm website diverts attention from the actual arguments he makes about cannabis regulation. This is a classic example of an appeal to authority fallacy, where you dismiss valid points because of perceived credentials rather than the merit of the arguments themselves.
Additionally, your straw man fallacy misrepresents Mr. Hart's use of reputable sources like the Bangkok Post as mere "ranting" and "speculation." Instead of addressing the substantive points he raises, you focus on discrediting his character and the presentation of his information. Evaluating arguments should rely on their logical structure and factual basis, not personal attacks or unfounded assumptions.
It has always been legal throughout history only just recently made illegal, historically speaking
This is so very Thailand. 🌴🤣 Thank you for weed-ing through all the details.
maybe T O T should poll tourist if one of the reason of there visit is the herb.
Dr i have depression..ganja very good......Dr i have Pain...ganja very good.....Dr i have anxiety...Ganja very good.. Dr i have sleeping problems...Ganja very good...Dr i have eating problems...Ganja very good... Dr i wish to feel good and relaxed...Ganje ver BAD it's DRUGS you should never touch it....what a laugh. You can use it for anything excpet feeling good.
The horse left the barn long ago.
It won't change and whatever the idiots dream up it won't be enforced as always in Thailand 😮😢
For sure! Can’t push the Cat 🐈 back in the Bag 💼
We drink, so alcohol is ok no matter how destructive or how completely hypocritical we ignoramuses are. Marijuana is the devil, all the sheep say so.....
The decriminalization of cannabis as done in Thailand is a great idea. I say decriminalization because it has been delisted from the narcotics code and thus, anything to do with the unprocessed flower seems to be unenforceable. It can also be legalized with the issuance of licenses for its sale, the sale of its processed goods, and tax purposes, as you've already suggested. Now, I believe, that it should be tested and we should strive for maximum quality as it is being done in other countries such as the USA. Focusing on relisting seems to be counterproductive.
You are 100% Correct on all your points!!!!
much ado about nothing.. medical weed shops will be open, so all weed shops will have a online doctor at call, you go in you have a "consult" and you get weed..
And it adds revenue so everyone get a good back scratching.
Here in South Africa we have the same issues. Cannabis is 'legal' and weed shops are everywhere. Still, there is no clarity regarding law and people are still being arrested or harassed by the police for possession. But, like with same-sex marriage being legalised, our society didn't crumble and lots more people now have work (we need that, since our unemployment rate is almost at 50%). One important thing to note is that people who use cannabis are less prone to commit violent crime - a huge issue in South Africa. So, perhaps the positives outweigh the negatives?
Thank you for your continuing efforts to bring reason, logic, and legal insight to this issue. Cannabis policy was one of the reasons that I chose Thailand over many other possible countries to come and spend money. The thought of it being relisted as a "drug" is appalling, and there are many others here who agree but don't want to speak out. It could be a golden opportunity for Vietnam or Cambodia though, if they can stand up to the regional elephant in the room...
100 % agreed that's why I chose Thailand Vietnam is way better but ya got to hid like a criminal to have a puff if the nam ever takes a different approach I'm there
Everything is going Fine.. It should be Left Alone!! Alcohol is more dangerous than weed!!
It occurs to me that public solicitation for sex is illegal in Thailand. Weed isn't going anywhere. Politicians just backed themselves into a corner with foolish campaign promises, and now they are looking for a way to save face and maybe make some money. That's my take anyway.
Great point on commercial real estate ! Thailand is open for business and so much safer than anywhere in the west .
I have been living in Thailand for 15 months. On my recent trip to Pattaya I noticed even more cannabis shops have opened during the past year. There is no question that this industry is growing in popularity with Thai people and foreigners. It would be foolhardy for the government to slam these doors shut.
I am confused. If it was delisted under 'emergency power', why can't it be relisted? I am not for relisting, just a question.
You are correct, it should go through parliament either way.
Because it was an emergency to get it delisted for many reasons, especially for health and prosperity. Relisting without good reason would be another crime like how it was a crime to make it criminal for no good reason in the first place.
I agree. Well said!