It is a great shame that it was not developed further because during the trials it constantly demonstrated the ability to climb 70° slopes and had far better traction in muddy condition and there was also a pair of twin-caliper disc brakes to assist in steering as many German half-track vehicles. It was powered with a 156 hp Rover 3.5 liter V8 petrol engine but apparently the consumption was fierce about 4.15 mpg or 1.47 liters per km and many parts like the tracks was taken from the Scorpion. Contrary to what a guy stated it didn't require much maintaining and would loved to have this vehicle!
Let's face it, although incredibly cool, haltracks were a developmental dead-end, widespread only in one point in history, when they made sense. Wheels have their benefits and downsides, as do tracks. Combining the two is just adding the downsides - worse off-road capability of the wheels and high cost and maintenance of the tracks.
would be good as farm vehicles tho. as the tracks better offroad performance would really support it in rougher conditions. yes its limited use but if we gonna spend all that resources we might aswell find some use for it. even if its limited
basically the only advantage wheel have is speed and maintenance . as for halftrack they where made because they where more easy to drive than fully tracked vehicle , once automatic transition appeared in tracked vehicle there was no point anymore for half track
The main reason for halftracks (prior/during WW2) was COSTSAVING (as was stated by the germans in their documentation). You get (limited) off road capabilities but with basically a simple(cheap) car differential. Fully tracked vehicles need an essentially more expensive and complicated type of gearbox. (With exception of the "Ostschlepper" which therefore could only manage very low speeds) When using as a gun tractor halftracks have the additional advantage of being more soft and less "jerky" during turns (this also was clearly stated by the germans when using their halftracks)
There was also the training advantage to half tracks. Anyone that could drive a truck could drive a half track. A fully tracked vehicle took a great deal of training to master.
@@richardm3023I would think it's just the opposite. Fully tracked vehicles had a more sophisticated (sometimes fully automatic) transmission system which makes it EASIER to drive. Halftracks had the manual truck/car gearboxes which makes them more DIFFICULT to use. It's like driving a very old T-Ford which is very complicated and many people wouldn't know how to do it. But anybody can drive in any car nowadays without special training because the transmission system is very sophisticated nowadays. As a rule of thumb you could say that when something is old and simple it's often hard to use. When it's internally complicated and sophisticated it's often easy to use.
A few years ago in Norway wasn't a large hoard of rare Landrovers discovered with a fully tracked version (each wheel being replaced by a small track unit) and also wasn't there a half track Landrover with track units of similar design to those used on the american half tracks of the second world war, I heard John Craddock (landrover specialists were very interested in the whole collection.o
The half-track was replaced by the 6x6 & 8x8 for good reason. As the tracks were already high maintenance, so why add the complexity of the front drive axle. Keep in mind that during WWII, the life expectancy of equipment was measured in months or weeks, so the issues of support really didn't matter as it does in peacetime...
Perhaps a vehicle looking for a role to fill . Glad Bovington has saved examples for study and show . Still would begrudgingly have one to get groceries with .
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8:33 1216Nm @ 2500rpm, BS not a f**king chance mate especially in 1976 at best you would've got 475Nm. A new Dodge Ram doesn't even produce 1216Nm with a 6.7l TD6 Cummins engine
Dear God. Turn off the National Anthem. It’s not background music. It’s annoying af. Sorry, I’d love to watch the full video but will abort and downvote it.
It is a great shame that it was not developed further because during the trials it constantly demonstrated the ability to climb 70° slopes and had far better traction in muddy condition and there was also a pair of twin-caliper disc brakes to assist in steering as many German half-track vehicles. It was powered with a 156 hp Rover 3.5 liter V8 petrol engine but apparently the consumption was fierce about 4.15 mpg or 1.47 liters per km and many parts like the tracks was taken from the Scorpion. Contrary to what a guy stated it didn't require much maintaining and would loved to have this vehicle!
Let's face it, although incredibly cool, haltracks were a developmental dead-end, widespread only in one point in history, when they made sense. Wheels have their benefits and downsides, as do tracks. Combining the two is just adding the downsides - worse off-road capability of the wheels and high cost and maintenance of the tracks.
would be good as farm vehicles tho. as the tracks better offroad performance would really support it in rougher conditions. yes its limited use but if we gonna spend all that resources we might aswell find some use for it. even if its limited
basically the only advantage wheel have is speed and maintenance . as for halftrack they where made because they where more easy to drive than fully tracked vehicle , once automatic transition appeared in tracked vehicle there was no point anymore for half track
The main reason for halftracks (prior/during WW2) was COSTSAVING (as was stated by the germans in their documentation).
You get (limited) off road capabilities but with basically a simple(cheap) car differential.
Fully tracked vehicles need an essentially more expensive and complicated type of gearbox.
(With exception of the "Ostschlepper" which therefore could only manage very low speeds)
When using as a gun tractor halftracks have the additional advantage of being more soft and less "jerky" during turns (this also was clearly stated by the germans when using their halftracks)
There was also the training advantage to half tracks. Anyone that could drive a truck could drive a half track. A fully tracked vehicle took a great deal of training to master.
@@richardm3023I would think it's just the opposite. Fully tracked vehicles had a more sophisticated (sometimes fully automatic) transmission system which makes it EASIER to drive. Halftracks had the manual truck/car gearboxes which makes them more DIFFICULT to use. It's like driving a very old T-Ford which is very complicated and many people wouldn't know how to do it. But anybody can drive in any car nowadays without special training because the transmission system is very sophisticated nowadays. As a rule of thumb you could say that when something is old and simple it's often hard to use. When it's internally complicated and sophisticated it's often easy to use.
A few years ago in Norway wasn't a large hoard of rare Landrovers discovered with a fully tracked version (each wheel being replaced by a small track unit) and also wasn't there a half track Landrover with track units of similar design to those used on the american half tracks of the second world war, I heard John Craddock (landrover specialists were very interested in the whole collection.o
Yes, but different vehicles
Real shame that half-tracks went out of fashion.
All the coolest designs are the dead end ones
The half-track was replaced by the 6x6 & 8x8 for good reason. As the tracks were already high maintenance, so why add the complexity of the front drive axle. Keep in mind that during WWII, the life expectancy of equipment was measured in months or weeks, so the issues of support really didn't matter as it does in peacetime...
Nice video and solid research. Keep up the good work! Tho the anthem in the background gets annoying pretty fast...
Perhaps a vehicle looking for a role to fill .
Glad Bovington has saved examples for study and show .
Still would begrudgingly have one to get groceries with .
3:28 they have a Land Rover katyusha System XD
A video on the alvis saracen family would be very interesting
Somebody has to write an article on it first
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I saw one of these on Salisbury plain in 1980, the guys driving it were SAS. I don't know if they were regs or TA though.
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What happend with the p3 prototipe?
Why was skiped?
GLA quad cannon?
The Tank Destroyer is actually drawn with an American M40 106mm recoilless rifle in the back.
Maybe if the German plans for their half-tracks had been stolen, it would have worked properly!
Reliable?
It had no suspension in the rear and the drive shaft kept breaking . But all this could of been fixed . Great pity it never found a buyer
The Laird Centaur was a fine and useful all-terrain vehicle which sadly lost its place in history to Toyota pickup trucks.
It only failed because lack of rear suspension. Weak point was the drive shaft . It would of been a great vehicle with suspension.
It looks British
Yes the centaur was good, but
The Land rover perenti 6x6 is my ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ only 28 were made and they did see combat
So this monstrosity had bits from here there and somewhere and a land rover body !
I'd take one shortened with a bogey removed from each side. I've seen more info on this, than the Jeep T-28.
Would have been worth their weight in gold in 1982 on the Falklands Island ....
Not really, as the stock land rovers were fine there...
Bad mouthing to the anthem, silence to achievements, i see how it is
Landrover " simple and effortable" that's TWO things that are currently NOT true anymore.
LOL 4.2 miles to the gallon... WOW
8:33 1216Nm @ 2500rpm, BS not a f**king chance mate especially in 1976 at best you would've got 475Nm. A new Dodge Ram doesn't even produce 1216Nm with a 6.7l TD6 Cummins engine
The way you said Birmingham is funny.
It's not "BurmingHam" it's "Byrmig'am" JFYI
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Dear God. Turn off the National Anthem. It’s not background music. It’s annoying af. Sorry, I’d love to watch the full video but will abort and downvote it.
crap music