Let's winwin, not loselose hehehe... I was so focused on EXO's comеback recently that totally missed notifications about NCT's repackage... I was truly surprised by the teaser of Simon Says and it was like WOWWWW !!! And then I realized that the same night I had a dream which is obviously connected with the release of this new song! 💕💕💕 In my dream I was going down the stairs with quite a lot boys around me, when suddenly another squad of boys (somehow I knew that they were five exactly) "attacked" the boys around me, while transforming in that kind of beast from Black on Black and We Go Up... They looked just like NCT in military uniforms I realized when I woke up! And in the dream the boys around me transformed into lions to handle the attack (probably my beloved EXO they were and other top k-pop groups)... But all this was imaginary - like a symbol only, because I was seeing them both as boys and beasts at the same time. When I woke up my first thought was that NCT is going on a "war" to challenge the lions of the day... Of course the war is metaphorical in another aspect as well - to challenge those who's rules we have to change as a mankind... :) When the MV came I was even more surprised while I read comments about the scary shout in the beginning of the song like this one: "It's a Maori war cry in the beginning, the indigenous people of New Zealand. It’s so interesting like how did they even got the idea to put this in a song?" So, the boys are on a war for winning recognition and probably that's way in my dream the number was 5 (it's too long to explain the aspects of the number, but on the gear of the red car in the MV there were 5 section and the whole thing presented the "ruling" table divided into 2 opposing teams, like in the song BOSS)... I'm wondering what these six 111111 as a sigh in front of the car could possible mean, but what comes to my mind is... transition from Fifth to Sixth Cultural Race when the separation is going to be overcome through the connection from inside: 1 as number is Unity and leadership as well...
Sorry to be off topic but does any of you know a tool to get back into an Instagram account? I somehow forgot the login password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me
The fact that two seconds of screen time make Jungwoo this shy and happy breakes my heart. WinWin and Jungwoo definitely deserve respect and better attitude from SM
sm: what do you want for Christmas? winwin: a unicorn sm: we can’t get you a unicorn, choose something else winwin: lines sm: so what type of unicorn do you want
got7 saymynamexx winwin is a very cute loveable talented artist who was a part of nct 127’s original lineup in 2016. SM took him out of the group temporarily (or possibly permanently but we don’t know) so he can promote with WayV in China. SM tries to erase any evidence that winwin was ever a part of nct but that’s why I’m here to remind everyone :) (Winwin can be seen in all of his loveliness at 0:04 on the far left)
a but some part of me thinks that why sm is hiding the evidence of ww being in 127 is because of China and S. Korea’s issue. But why only ww tho? Lucas was part of boss. Ten was part of 7th Sense and bds. And kun was in the Chinese ver. Of without you. I don’t care if 127 is big in America and that’s (maybe) the reason Sm is doing this. It just hurt the hearts of the fans and for sure of the members as well.
Elizabeth Ofiana It must be because of political tension between China and Korea because when winwin joined WayV he couldn’t be part of nct 127 anymore, but when Mark joined SuperM he is still participating in nct 127’s activities in america.
He can be in both just like how Mark, Taeyong, Ten and Lucas can promote in SuperM and NCT. Also Haechan and Mark in NCT DREAM and NCT127. Its so sad seeing him being mistreated like this, he deserves better
winwin is still in 127 but has not done comebacks with them since simon says. supposedly during the filming winwin was preparing for wayv's debut which came shortly after this. which would make sense as to why he is not seen in all the group scenes.
Jaehyun genuinely feels bad for winwin. He didn’t say anything and looked really pissed off. If you see clearly , he glances over at winwin to make sure he’s alright. Winwin shouldn’t be treated like this. We love you winwin and jaehyun and NCT!
Nidia Lam Winwin was not in the MV Simon Says VERY much. One can say at all.... He was shown a couple of times. He was not in the choreography coz he was preparing for WayV ( NCT’s unit) debut.
please don't forget that SM is damn smart sm probs did not give him lines because he was meant solely for NCT CHINA especially with the hallyu ban going on
@@Sohwanderful cus at least jungwoo get more line and screentime at NCT U - BOSS but winwin? never get proper screentime and line after MARK join the rap audition and get more recognition so that's why they throw winwin now. BEFORE winwin and taeyong the center just look at LIMITLESS but after that MARK AND TAEYONG the center WOW
even jaehyun looked pissed off and the way he glances at winwin a few times to make sure he's alright and didn't even say a thing. we love u winwin, jaehyun and nct #treatwinwinbetter
SM is so cruel for making Winwin react to a music video he was barely a part of. They could have given him more, this was literally his last comeback in 127 before joining WayV. I wanted to cry seeing him not smiling the whole time while watching :( my poor baby. He must have been sad that he couldn't promote with them, and SM just added insult to injury by barely indicating he's in the MV at all :( if they ever let Winwin return to 127, I better not see this kind of treatment AGAIN..
The "give winwin more lines" thing is not a joke anymore. no more simon says jokes cuz simon ain't saying shit. Nctzens needs to say smth rn, even though I know sm won't listen.
look im a brand new NCTzen and tbh i knew about winwin just never saw him and was always like where the fuck is he in every mv they ever put out so i was like maybe he just isnt in nct 127 but now im confused can someone explain?
Liel ben atar winwin is still in nct 127 currently. As nct 127 is a unit where members can keep joining but they don’t leave, I think he will probably stay there. The reason why you don’t see winwin around in mvs is because SM treats their chinese artists unfairly and hence winwin has very little lines and screen time. He mostly dances at the back and he’s hardly in the centre. Btw sorry if my explanation sounds a little weird, english is not my strongest language (‘:
@@fgjuikeazerty5022 Sm mistreats winwin out of all the NCT members.. Imagine working your butt off, finally debuting, then you get no lines or screen time, in your last MV with your debut unit you get no lines or screen time, and when you leave to a "better unit" Your original members can't speak about you. Then you start questioning yourself if you are good enough. I remember when winwin finally got to sing in a show, he was so exited, but then he grew self conscious and nervous...
Winwin looked so depressed the entire reaction. He was supportive of any praise the other members got by smiling and nodding in agreement. But he just looked so heartbroken. He DESERVES respect and SM needs to know that. They can’t just treat him as a pretty face with two words in every song. Give Winwin what he has worked so hard for. Give him his god damn respect. Give him screen time. Give him lines. Stop treating him as if he doesn’t care. He wants to be as connected to the group as all the others are. If SM doesn’t stop picking favorites and discarding talented people like Winwin they’re gonna start suffering for it.
I feel the same here. This comeback just broken my heart, I don’t see love and support from them, am so disappointed. If this shit keeps happening, I won’t support them anymore. This isn’t the NCT127 I know, and not the NCT127 I loved.😔
@@jazzy8931 I Seriously DIDN'T say anything about its their fault, OK? it's all abt the company's project, their plan and actions towards the group. the reason why i said i wouldn't support the group as same as before only bcz it hurts, loving someone suppose to be happy but i don't feel it anymore. also to be honest, i bought this album anyway, voted, streamed for them too. am just complaining abt the company. PLZ DON'T just jump in and ACCUSE ME FOR STH I NEVER SAID.
Tbh if I was Win-win, I would've broken down in tears while doing the reaction thing here. If not, I would've left SM a long time ago. I love how Win-win is stay put and is still strong. *Win-win, Fighting!!*
It's probably because they were watching the video for the first time and they wanted to pay attention to all the details and then at the end they made the comments
i kinda felt a heavy mood throughout this video idk, it feels like most of them know about sicheng's situation, specially jaehyun. And about winwin, he even crossed his arms, like, this is kinda something that you do when feeling stressed, like "someone pls get me out of here" and it's even clearly if we look to his expressions, he barely even smiled. I'm feeling so sad about him, he's the sweetest boy ever, he doesn't deserve to be treated like this.
sabrina tinami same, I noticed it too. even though they did say they were going to do commentary afterwards that didn’t mean they all had to go dead silent...
*127ZENS I NEED YOUR ATTENTION* Czennies, please. I saw on twitter that some of us started the hashtag #nct127_is_10 in order to bring back winwin. There, someone even made an email template to mass email SM. Ot10 is up to us. Spread the word. If you can't find the template or don't have twitter, tell me, I'll send you the link.
@@hello-xm9sj why would you tweet that Winwin is in wayv and as much as we loved Winwin in nct127 now he is in wayv and he's comfortable there. like do you wonder how wayv would feel if they saw this hashtag? everyone in wayv said that they feel like a family and instead of tweeting hashtag that won't chance anything let support Winwin in wayv and wayv itself
i’m late to this but i can understand why winwin is so upset. i remember the behind the scenes and he was so looking forward to everything and obviously excited for the mv but being so dissatisfied and heartbroken because not only does he not have lines but no screen time too :( he was smiling in the beginning too... but got upset more after watching. our poor winwin. love u so much
He wasn't in the mv a lot and he had no lines and was really sad about that u can see jaehyun looking a him to see if he is okay when he is clearly irritated,angry,disappointed,upset
I’m Winwin stan but I started to be a nctzen in 2019 so I don’t know about this video at all. After I watch this, I feel like I don’t have any word to say. I was about to cry because I really feel bad for him. I don’t know that SM is really disrespectful like this. But know I can feel comfortable and happy that he’s been treating well now since he’s in WayV. Winwin, fighting!You are the best for me. I trust you and I love you.
Things I noticed re watching this: 1.) WinWin was not in the first dance break 2.) WinWin was not in the ending pose 3.) WinWin was basically non Existent in this whole music video🤣 like sm what the heck were you doing
jungwoo smiling at his 2 sec part is the precious thing ever . dear SM please respect and give our winwin and jungwoo more lines ! 127 still need winwin 💗🌈 winwin hasn't officially left 127 yet , don't fade up nctzen . let's pray ✊🏻💗
'Hands up heundeureo' this is all of WinWin's lines in the song. This, to me isn't even equivalent of one line. WinWin deserves the same love and respect given to every single other member. WinWin, we will always be on your side and SM.. PLEASE step up your game. Humans are not just toys or objects you can throw aside if you don't like them. Humans have emotions. Humans have feelings. Humans are REAL. WinWin is REAL AND HE DESERVES ONLY THE BEST. Edit: WinWin has one more line but still, that doesn't make up for anything I said
I think all of them wanted to say it but SM is pretty much a control freak. They cant even treat the veteran groups well, how much more these young men? It makes me hella mad but at least Winwin is in Wayv now.
I think all of them want to mention win win too but they can't like Cymopelia said. I think when yuta said always say I love you after commenting is the way he cheer Winwin up..
honestly im glad he didnt... if i was winwin and someone said that for me i think i would start crying on the spot lmao.. and winwin already looked like he was holding back tears at some points :(
I think the members saw he was sad (they were glancing at him a lot) so they probably respected that and didn't pry into things more. I hope Winwin got a healthy cry in his room after this, coz now he slays in wayv 😔😔 dong sicheng, you did well!
*127ZENS I NEED YOUR ATTENTION* Czennies, please. I saw on twitter that some of us started the hashtag #nct127_is_10 in order to bring back winwin. There, someone even made an email template to mass email SM. Ot10 is up to us. Spread the word. If you can't find the template or don't have twitter, tell me, I'll send you the link.
@@nayanthara7097 I was just saying that.... he was okay now with wayv..... what's wrong with that I'm just assuring them that's hes okay now with his members at wayv.,..
@@nayanthara7097 did you even get what I say. I mean he was getting exposure that he deserves.... I'm just assuring her. Why? Wayv is part of nct. I'm just saying that winwin is not loselose. I dont have bad intention.. Love wayv? Tsk
it's really sad when most of the comments on this video are about Winwin and how uncomfortable he clearly is. Everyone is concerned with SM's inability to treat him right and I hope that they will do something about this seeing as almost every nctizen is worried about him.
*127ZENS I NEED YOUR ATTENTION* Czennies, please. I saw on twitter that some of us started the hashtag #nct127_is_10 in order to bring back winwin. There, someone even made an email template to mass email SM. Ot10 is up to us. Spread the word. If you can't find the template or don't have twitter, tell me, I'll send you the link.
my bias looking tired, sad, and stoic completely throughout an 8+ minute video is definitely not the way i want them to look. WINWIN did so much for SM just to be treated like a ghost in return. the idea of him leaving NCT127 hurts. but the idea of him staying in NCT127 and having barely any lines & basically appear as a cameo in his own group mv fucking tears me apart. he deserves better. and istg that if he is treated the same way as a member of WAYV, i will YEET SM off the face of the earth!! i'm tired of him being treated poorly, i'm tired of him looking sad and stoic. i just want to see him shine brighter (with the other underrated members) but SM really be playing with us and NCT smfh
yuto's yutoda mind you, sm literally CHASED winwin for him to join sm entertainment, and this is how they’re treating him? so much for wanting to have him join...
I HATE IT I HATE THAT my hands are hurting from liking all the comments about winwin he deserves better he has talent thats going to wast he needs more liness and screentime
even if winwin isn’t your bias, he’s that one member you’re always cheering for. always hoping for them to do well and succeed. he’s that “special place in your heart” member. whenever you see him smile, your heart be on that grinch shit and grows three sizes. sm... please let the underdog shine. i love him so much. fighting winwin💜
this comment is beautiful :’) this is exactly how I feel about winwin. he’s not my bias but I’m forever rooting for him and he really does have that special place in my heart
Bro my heart hurts so bad rn especially when Winwin came on the screen but Winwin didn't react at all he just looked like he was about to cry wtf now I'm gonna cry 😭
Soshi 9lyrics Because he was preparing for NCT VISION (China), that's why he wasn't in their dance parts. He won't be promoting with them in Simon Says era lol
I'm a Winwin stan and can I just say, this video broke my heart. Poor Sicheng didn't have any lines or screentime (practically). SM treats him like he's some kind of background dancer for the boys and it seems like one cares for his feelings. Look at his poor face, he seem like he was about to cry. No one ever seems to mention him in these types of videos and he is never acknowledged. Don't you think that maybe he wishes he could be praised like taeyong or mark is? But he will never get the chance to all because of SM. Seriously. They struck gold with Sicheng. Most trainees seem like ordinary people off the street but winwin is a beautifully and technically trained dancer who KNOWS how to put on a show and perform, not to mention the fact that he looks absolutely BREATHTAKING. I have never seen an idol who's looks surprise me everytime i see them. And if SM had properly trained him (maybe they did but we will never know) then he could have been just as an amazing singer/rapper as the other boys. And maybe HE IS but we will never know cause we will never get to hear him sing. And then there's the fact that SM has been doing this sort of thing towards its Chinese artists for years and it has to STOP. I'm sick of SM's attitude and disrespect towards its chinese artists and trainees. I really hope SM does him justice in NCT China, but if they don't I'm losing all respect for SM.
he is trained, they dont give him lines bc he is chinese and the korean pronunciation which is so unfair:( they shouldve waited to debut him in nct china:( i dont want him to feel bad
RIGHT??? omg I've always been annoyed with the fact that he's a dancer but always been pushed behind :-( maybe his lines can be improved gradually but for him to constantly be at the back?? seriously -_- and this was so not well planned by sm, they could have completely excluded winwin in this comeback instead of having him in and out constantly (I mean come on, you didn't include him in the dance and he has like what, 0.0002 seconds in the mv (ok maybe not but you get what I mean) but you expect him to react to it?? or have him join this comeback, and push NCT's VISION debut back slightly next year to give him a break or push back this repackage zzz I don't understand why they're squeezing everything into November, especially when there's only a week left zzz I honestly love NCT so much just hurts me that some members are treated less fairly than the rest t.t hopefully it improves!!!
Same I was looking at winwin and jungwoo my heart breaks for them when winwin was so serious through the video and jungwoos happy/shy smile even tho he only had about 2 seconds makes me want to hit SM across the face to make him get some sense
To be honest I didn't watch the whole video because I cant stand Winwin's reaction. It breaks my heart and I almost cried. I just came here to like all the comments about him so that SM fckng ent would realized how angry we are for treating Sicheng bad.
being an idol like him is like being trapped on a pedestal while seeing others rise to fame, and you just curl up, lost and alone and afraid because you aren't loved like they are, you're happy for them but you're breaking, you wonder why you wanted to be here, you wonder why you're still here if you can't even speak, and your throat dries up, and you hold the smile because you don't want the others to worry but when the video ends and you return to the dorms, you start to cry, because you can't hold it in anymore, because you just want a bit of attention, you just want one line, but no they won't give you anything they put you on the pedestal but don't allow you to rise and you cry you break new opportunities are around the corner. you join a new unit, and you still don't have a lot of lines, but you have more than you used to you're happier you had friends in 127 but you're happier here finally you've achieved what you came to do finally you feel a sense of purpose finally, you are satisfied, and proud of yourself. [ fighting for winwin ]
Winwin face and reaction look sad and idk what he look really dissapointed He really deserved more line in the future nct127 album I hope in nct china he will more lines than this😔😔😔😢
Jaehyun has no comments for this reaction. I think because he feels sad for Winwin. And in 7:31 when Jaehyun looked and looked at Winwin briefly aahhh it's really make me 💔
그래.. 윈윈이가 127 가장 초기 멤버인데 이렇게 차별받으면서 활동하는 것보다 웨이브이에서 웃으면서 활동하는 게 더 좋은 것 같아.. 가끔은 윈윈이가 127로 같이 활동했으면 하지만 이 영상만 보면 내 이기심이 너무하다는 생각이 들어,, 웨이브이에선 127에서 한 번도 보여주지 못한 모습들을 많이 보여주고, 원하는 안무도 배우는 모습이 난 더 좋고 그런 윈윈이를 응원해
Winwin didn't say a SINGLE word the entire video, his eyes just looked sad and even a non fan would see that. Also 7:54 right here you can see exactly how uncomfortable and spaced out he is, everyone was reacting and making noises but he was just sitting there. I'm gonna cry
진짜 이때 개빡쳤음 무용하는 애 데려와서 데뷔시켜 놓고 보스때부터 지금까지 부른 파트가 다섯 손가락 안에도 안 뽑힘 그럼 뮤비 분량이라도 주던가 한참 보면서 윈윈이는 언제 나오나 기다렸는데 단 한장면도 나오지를 않음 이런식으로 외국멤버 차별할 거면 애초에 윈윈이를 왜 데려왔나 싶을 정도임 태용이랑 마크 각각 반 정도씩 분량 떼서 줘도 윈윈이 분량 딱 맞게 나올 수 있을 것 같은데 내가 윈윈이고 저 자리에 있었어도 보면서 어처구니 없을 듯 스엠 이런식으로 일하지마
winwin looked so sad the whole video. he is so talented and deserves as much respect as the other members. i just want him to know that he’s appreciated and loved by all of us.
WinWin looked like he was about to cry throughout this whole video and it absolutely breaks my heart. He is treated so poorly by SM, as if he's a backup dancer and second class citizen. He deserves so much more. This is why idols leave SM, because they're treated like dirt. I'm hoping and praying that WinWin won't leave, but if this treatment continues, it might be best for him to leave. SM, I hope you start treating your idols better, otherwise they WILL start leaving. I love you Winwin, so much. I hope you know that, and I hope that you show SM why you're deserving of more.
it's disgusting how sm just sleeps on winwin like this he ain't a goddamn bed winwin literally won a first place in a worldwide dance compitition and sm is out here treating winwin like trash
I cant really watch winwin watching the mv. It feels like he's trying to hide the pain and looks happy. I feel sad too. This song should be an opportunity for nct to rise, as well as each members. I hope sm will treat all their artist well if they want me(others too) to respect sm. Hurm
All I want is for Winwin to get the screen time and lines he deserves I know everyone is saying this but Jesus I feel so bad for him I just wanna hug him
I didnt even notice that WinWin wasnt a part of the dance until now. Like what the hell. Winwin is just as talented as the rest of the members and he deserves respect. He doesnt deserve to just be treated as just a pretty face and give him two lines every song. He works just as hard as the other members for their comebacks yet he always gets left behind. He looked so sad and so uncomfortable throughout this entire video. He has his arms crossed and even bites his lip a few times as if to hold back tears. That broke my heart. How can they possibly want him to react to one of their music video that he was barley even a part of? He puts his heart and soul into what he does and for him to be treated this unfairly is beyond words. I hope he gets the recognition he deserves when NCT China (or Vision) debuts because the way he is being treated, as if he isnt even truly a part of the group is infuriating. . We love you so so much WinWin! Be strong! ❤
the way winwin put his around his neck, clenched his hands, biting his lip makes me so sad. he is so obviously disappointed. i wish winwin has more lines. sm kept mistreating foreign line especially China line. Winwin was in almost all NCT units (except for NCT Dream) yet he barely had lines. i honestly think this is one of sm's "strategies" so that we keep on insisting sm to give more lines to china line so that we keep on waiting. idk i'm so pissed to see my bias this frustrated.
and they said that's their real reaction 😂😂 probably because they've made the recording alot of times so it's not that much of a shock to them and there's not much of reaction to show
I’m very sad Winwin is getting disrespected left and right but I’m seeing some comments hating on Taeyong and Mark. I whole heartedly believe Winwin deserves way more lines, but the rappers have a lot of lines because they’re good and that’s the kind of music NCT creates. I’m not saying Winwin isn’t talented because obviously he is but I think it is not okay to hate on Taeyong and Mark. But still, justice for Winwin.
Jongslay i think win win Looks so sad, he is also not in the whole dance performance and maybe has 2 seconds of screen time :( i feel so sad for my Baby Boy :/
They once mention that Winwin only train for a year before he debuted maybe that’s why he wasn’t able to fully practice and enhance his vocal or rap skills but because he is good at dancing SM made him debut. And at that time his Korean isn’t good yet and might be hard for him to express the songs. Maybe in the future or in this new NCT unit they maybe give him more lines that he deserve 😃.
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Let's *WINWIN*
WINWIN 嘆氣 哈哈哈
Let's winwin, not loselose hehehe... I was so focused on EXO's comеback recently that totally missed notifications about NCT's repackage... I was truly surprised by the teaser of Simon Says and it was like WOWWWW !!! And then I realized that the same night I had a dream which is obviously connected with the release of this new song! 💕💕💕
In my dream I was going down the stairs with quite a lot boys around me, when suddenly another squad of boys (somehow I knew that they were five exactly) "attacked" the boys around me, while transforming in that kind of beast from Black on Black and We Go Up... They looked just like NCT in military uniforms I realized when I woke up! And in the dream the boys around me transformed into lions to handle the attack (probably my beloved EXO they were and other top k-pop groups)... But all this was imaginary - like a symbol only, because I was seeing them both as boys and beasts at the same time. When I woke up my first thought was that NCT is going on a "war" to challenge the lions of the day... Of course the war is metaphorical in another aspect as well - to challenge those who's rules we have to change as a mankind... :)
When the MV came I was even more surprised while I read comments about the scary shout in the beginning of the song like this one: "It's a Maori war cry in the beginning, the indigenous people of New Zealand. It’s so interesting like how did they even got the idea to put this in a song?"
So, the boys are on a war for winning recognition and probably that's way in my dream the number was 5 (it's too long to explain the aspects of the number, but on the gear of the red car in the MV there were 5 section and the whole thing presented the "ruling" table divided into 2 opposing teams, like in the song BOSS)... I'm wondering what these six 111111 as a sigh in front of the car could possible mean, but what comes to my mind is... transition from Fifth to Sixth Cultural Race when the separation is going to be overcome through the connection from inside: 1 as number is Unity and leadership as well...
Literally my favorite thing that was said and Taeyong saying me
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The fact that two seconds of screen time make Jungwoo this shy and happy breakes my heart. WinWin and Jungwoo definitely deserve respect and better attitude from SM
Hunny Juju same for johnny ..
Im new in this fandom so... Which one is Winwin ? Thanks
@@Alice-kf7tp winwin is the one on the far left above the MV the one with the striped shirt and jacket
@@nourkchaou4852 oh thats what i thought... Thanks you
@Sehun Min thank youuuuu
sm: what do you want for Christmas?
winwin: a unicorn
sm: we can’t get you a unicorn, choose something else
winwin: lines
sm: so what type of unicorn do you want
Honestly. Finally an intelligent fan.
oooo y didnt they put him in the song n who is winwin, sorry new fan
got7 saymynamexx winwin is a very cute loveable talented artist who was a part of nct 127’s original lineup in 2016. SM took him out of the group temporarily (or possibly permanently but we don’t know) so he can promote with WayV in China. SM tries to erase any evidence that winwin was ever a part of nct but that’s why I’m here to remind everyone :)
(Winwin can be seen in all of his loveliness at 0:04 on the far left)
a but some part of me thinks that why sm is hiding the evidence of ww being in 127 is because of China and S. Korea’s issue. But why only ww tho? Lucas was part of boss. Ten was part of 7th Sense and bds. And kun was in the Chinese ver. Of without you. I don’t care if 127 is big in America and that’s (maybe) the reason Sm is doing this. It just hurt the hearts of the fans and for sure of the members as well.
Elizabeth Ofiana It must be because of political tension between China and Korea because when winwin joined WayV he couldn’t be part of nct 127 anymore, but when Mark joined SuperM he is still participating in nct 127’s activities in america.
I think Winwin is really meant for WayV so sad I like him for NCT 127 too.
He can be in both!
@Palavi Lawate he can be in both lol
He can be in both just like how Mark, Taeyong, Ten and Lucas can promote in SuperM and NCT. Also Haechan and Mark in NCT DREAM and NCT127. Its so sad seeing him being mistreated like this, he deserves better
same gurl💔
@@hello-xm9sj I agree
When Doyoung says "Did you enjoy it!?" and Winwin just quietly clap his hands... I'm devastated
💔
Me too 😫😭
Who isnt gonna be😥
The poor boy seriously doesn't deserve this shit
He really seems like out of place in here!
Of Winwin
By Winwin
For Winwin
Thanks Winwin
We love Winwin
I'm a new stan, and I'm confused which one is Winwin.. could you point him out please?
M U the one in the striped shirt and black jacket
He looks so sad
Sorry i'm a new a stan, why about winwin?? I don't know the problem
@@hmmmhmmm3772 everybody is whipped for Winwin. Even NCT themselves. ☕
Jaehyun really has an emotional sensor. He’s just as tense as Winwin in this video and kept on looking at him
@FallenAngel He wanted to make sure he was alright. He is such a sweetheart
When winwin is on 127 jaehyun always guided winwin by language or assist him on anything I love them
Im somewhat new to the fandom but how come they were both tense? I know Winwin isnt the best at speaking in Korean...is that why?
@@Azninja889 I think cause thEy are worried to winwin getting no lines...
@@Azninja889 but hes in wayv now. Dont worry he has fellow chinise members there
it was winwin's last promotion with 127 and sm did him so dirty 😭
why last, ıs he leave 127 ??
winwin is still in 127 but has not done comebacks with them since simon says. supposedly during the filming winwin was preparing for wayv's debut which came shortly after this. which would make sense as to why he is not seen in all the group scenes.
@@allyfie5490 thank you
@@allyfie5490 honestly i wouldn’t even say he’s in 127 anymore. SM didn’t even let him perform Touch with 127 in the Resonance Beyond Live
@@allyfie5490 ah i just found out now... i've been counting and why 9 members there whereas winwin is included :(
IMAGING BEING WIN WIN SITTING THERE AND NOT SEEING HIMSELF WITH LINES TF?
Aspensworld I would cry hard and hate to be with this whole group
Yuki San it’s no NCT fault, is SM. I swear that Winwin loves his members
@@sushanh6094 agree
Heck with lines... hes not even in the dance...
IT FREAKING HURTS ME OMG
Jaehyun genuinely feels bad for winwin. He didn’t say anything and looked really pissed off. If you see clearly , he glances over at winwin to make sure he’s alright. Winwin shouldn’t be treated like this. We love you winwin and jaehyun and NCT!
Onome Atughwe yes!
Why what happened sorry I’m new
Nidia Lam Winwin was not in the MV Simon Says VERY much. One can say at all.... He was shown a couple of times. He was not in the choreography coz he was preparing for WayV ( NCT’s unit) debut.
Tanya Krotowa thank you so much for telling me and I thought it was unfair for him because he didn’t have any lines
Nidia Lam yes. Sm minds its business not very correctly ....
*SIMON SAYS* "GIVE WINWIN MORE LINES"
Pakasam Masin Simon says give Mark and Taeyong less lines
Give NCT an unfair line distrubution!
WHOOPS BITCH I DIDN'T SAY SIMON SAYS!
Winwin don't do the promotion
please don't forget that SM is damn smart
sm probs did not give him lines because he was meant solely for NCT CHINA especially with the hallyu ban going on
There is improvement so its going good . No worries now
8:21 Taeyong should have said : "can I stop here? OK so why tf isn't Winwin receiving any lines or screentime? I'm telling Chenle to buy SM"
I will help you
Tell him
I vote por Suho,he wanna be the CEO and he is rich too,he can buy it!
Yeah please tell chenle that-
Sorry, i didn't get.... Chenle?
The comment section is ntczens wanting to hug winwin and hoping sm treats him better in nct vision
Jungwoo needs more screentime and lines too.
Look how he smiled at his screentime part everyone 😢
@@TyTrack_127 yes most people talk about winwin ( i understand tho), but also Jungwoo
@@Sohwanderful cus at least jungwoo get more line and screentime at NCT U - BOSS but winwin? never get proper screentime and line after MARK join the rap audition and get more recognition so that's why they throw winwin now. BEFORE winwin and taeyong the center just look at LIMITLESS but after that MARK AND TAEYONG the center WOW
@@elviratenrikawa4698 still doesn't mean he needed more lines in the song...
Lmao i thought it was gonna be called nct vision too. And i wanted it to be called that. But we got WayV and thats ok
even jaehyun looked pissed off and the way he glances at winwin a few times to make sure he's alright and didn't even say a thing. we love u winwin, jaehyun and nct #treatwinwinbetter
Which minute?
Nur AS 7:31 4:24
ohhh, this is breaking my heart......
Jaehyung and taeyoung always worried for their children
*when the comment section appreciates winwin more than sm*
ofc.
WHERE IS THE LIE....?
As it should
YESSSSSSSS
SM is so cruel for making Winwin react to a music video he was barely a part of. They could have given him more, this was literally his last comeback in 127 before joining WayV. I wanted to cry seeing him not smiling the whole time while watching :( my poor baby. He must have been sad that he couldn't promote with them, and SM just added insult to injury by barely indicating he's in the MV at all :( if they ever let Winwin return to 127, I better not see this kind of treatment AGAIN..
The fact that there are scenes in where the set has no one (like 3:19) and they couldn’t give that to winwin makes me mad
baby winwin looks so sad here :(
The "give winwin more lines" thing is not a joke anymore. no more simon says jokes cuz simon ain't saying shit. Nctzens needs to say smth rn, even though I know sm won't listen.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE AT THE BACK
Nctzens have been talking about it ever since and SM still aint listening
look im a brand new NCTzen and tbh i knew about winwin just never saw him and was always like where the fuck is he in every mv they ever put out so i was like maybe he just isnt in nct 127 but now im confused can someone explain?
Liel ben atar winwin is still in nct 127 currently. As nct 127 is a unit where members can keep joining but they don’t leave, I think he will probably stay there. The reason why you don’t see winwin around in mvs is because SM treats their chinese artists unfairly and hence winwin has very little lines and screen time. He mostly dances at the back and he’s hardly in the centre. Btw sorry if my explanation sounds a little weird, english is not my strongest language (‘:
And johnny
Simon says *Winwin deserves better*
Sadly yes. He gets less line to sing. He gets less time to show up in the video. I can't even see his face while watching this video.
Better better better
Yes 😢
Yoru no musume
I know you 😆😆😊😊😂😂
I agree. No one even complement the way WInwin fell in the video. I mean come one that looked really cool and no one said anything about it.
i know taeyong and mark always shine in every Nct 127 comeback but i said other members must get to shine too
I strongly agree
Agreed
Yah
💯% agreed
WAAAH thats beautiful :")
3:03 Jungwoo’s smile break my heart..
Why?? Tell me please Idk the story about NCT, SM AND WINWIN
@@fgjuikeazerty5022 Sm mistreats winwin out of all the NCT members.. Imagine working your butt off, finally debuting, then you get no lines or screen time, in your last MV with your debut unit you get no lines or screen time, and when you leave to a "better unit" Your original members can't speak about you. Then you start questioning yourself if you are good enough. I remember when winwin finally got to sing in a show, he was so exited, but then he grew self conscious and nervous...
😭😭😭
dude i wanted to cryyyy
*_same guys, same. I was speechless when I saw the MV_*
Winwin looked so depressed the entire reaction. He was supportive of any praise the other members got by smiling and nodding in agreement. But he just looked so heartbroken. He DESERVES respect and SM needs to know that. They can’t just treat him as a pretty face with two words in every song. Give Winwin what he has worked so hard for. Give him his god damn respect. Give him screen time. Give him lines. Stop treating him as if he doesn’t care. He wants to be as connected to the group as all the others are. If SM doesn’t stop picking favorites and discarding talented people like Winwin they’re gonna start suffering for it.
I feel the same here. This comeback just broken my heart, I don’t see love and support from them, am so disappointed. If this shit keeps happening, I won’t support them anymore. This isn’t the NCT127 I know, and not the NCT127 I loved.😔
Why won't you support NCT anymore like it's there fault, there not the head of the company
@@pumpkin8560
You literally act like it's NCT's fault, like they control the company
@@jazzy8931 I Seriously DIDN'T say anything about its their fault, OK? it's all abt the company's project, their plan and actions towards the group. the reason why i said i wouldn't support the group as same as before only bcz it hurts, loving someone suppose to be happy but i don't feel it anymore. also to be honest, i bought this album anyway, voted, streamed for them too. am just complaining abt the company. PLZ DON'T just jump in and ACCUSE ME FOR STH I NEVER SAID.
Tbh if I was Win-win, I would've broken down in tears while doing the reaction thing here. If not, I would've left SM a long time ago. I love how Win-win is stay put and is still strong. *Win-win, Fighting!!*
3:02 *Jungwoo smiles to his part is the softest thing I see for 827263 yEArS*
I know he barely got two sec screen time and he's that happy. Poor baby 😔
김유이 he is the one in the top left corner with the white sweater
he's so cute
I’m actually devastated ☹️🥺🥺
most precious thing in the entire scene...T-T
the atmosphere of this video was so awkward, everyone really felt so bad for winwin :( i love you winwin💚💚
*The fact that they haven’t even talked once*
Gelindigkeit겔린디히카이트 ikr omg
THEYRE SO SILENT DJQKDKALCKAL can they smile pls they did so well-
i loved how seriously they were judging it. :D
their reaction was real af
It's probably because they were watching the video for the first time and they wanted to pay attention to all the details and then at the end they made the comments
3:03 Jungwoo saw himself and giggled he's such a baby asjhwhs
So precious uwu 💖 protect him at all cost
Yeahhhh he's a baby uwu
That part was the cutest!! 💜💜
i kinda felt a heavy mood throughout this video idk, it feels like most of them know about sicheng's situation, specially jaehyun. And about winwin, he even crossed his arms, like, this is kinda something that you do when feeling stressed, like "someone pls get me out of here" and it's even clearly if we look to his expressions, he barely even smiled. I'm feeling so sad about him, he's the sweetest boy ever, he doesn't deserve to be treated like this.
sabrina tinami same, I noticed it too. even though they did say they were going to do commentary afterwards that didn’t mean they all had to go dead silent...
we stand with WinWin.
He is his bestfriend afterall. Remember when winwin doesn’t know korean that much but Jaehyun’s the only one that could understand what he felt.
here is a list of winwin’s names;
winwin
sicheng
dong sicheng
his names aren’t;
nolinesorscreentime
loselose
please don't do this
hate sm ok
@@nairaangelyne6467 but (s)he is not hating on him ???
Aeri Nxirx im not hating on winwin! I’m saying that he needs more screen time and lines because we all know that he’s super talented!
*127ZENS I NEED YOUR ATTENTION*
Czennies, please. I saw on twitter that some of us started the hashtag #nct127_is_10 in order to bring back winwin. There, someone even made an email template to mass email SM. Ot10 is up to us. Spread the word.
If you can't find the template or don't have twitter, tell me, I'll send you the link.
@@hello-xm9sj why would you tweet that Winwin is in wayv and as much as we loved Winwin in nct127 now he is in wayv and he's comfortable there. like do you wonder how wayv would feel if they saw this hashtag? everyone in wayv said that they feel like a family and instead of tweeting hashtag that won't chance anything let support Winwin in wayv and wayv itself
*RESPECT WINWIN*
*RESPECT WINWIN*
*RESPECT WINWIN*
*RESPECT WINWIN*
*RESPECT WINWIN*
#RespectWinWin
Tennis
yes winwin simon says bye bye Aelys💋💋
Frfr
All the comments about Winwin... And im not mad, he deserves the attention, like plz
Winwin and NCT fighting!
i’m late to this but i can understand why winwin is so upset. i remember the behind the scenes and he was so looking forward to everything and obviously excited for the mv but being so dissatisfied and heartbroken because not only does he not have lines but no screen time too :( he was smiling in the beginning too... but got upset more after watching. our poor winwin. love u so much
He wasn't in the mv a lot and he had no lines and was really sad about that u can see jaehyun looking a him to see if he is okay when he is clearly irritated,angry,disappointed,upset
I’m Winwin stan but I started to be a nctzen in 2019 so I don’t know about this video at all. After I watch this, I feel like I don’t have any word to say. I was about to cry because I really feel bad for him. I don’t know that SM is really disrespectful like this. But know I can feel comfortable and happy that he’s been treating well now since he’s in WayV. Winwin, fighting!You are the best for me. I trust you and I love you.
SM rubbing salt into his wound with this one. Smh. This video was just unnecessary.
Ng hz b
@@babywish5761 ayeee Khmer nctzens TT
@@chengchariya8946 why not 😁?
there are three types of people in this world: let's get it, let the beat drop, and let's winwin
Let’s winwin. What about y’all?
This is gold 👌👌👏👏💜💜
alright but pissed jaehyun is scaring me uff. poor winwin tho, I hope wayv will appreciate him more!
istnichtso _ where at?
Where does jaehyun look pissed??
@@hooriahhasan7755 throughout the vid especially in the first part, he's really close to winwin so he's genuinely upset for him :(
invaderzyym _ which one is jaehyun
@@jephni black jacket, burgundy-ish hair color
Things I noticed re watching this:
1.) WinWin was not in the first dance break
2.) WinWin was not in the ending pose
3.) WinWin was basically non Existent in this whole music video🤣 like sm what the heck were you doing
Aschele R Winwin isn’t in any of the dance breaks.
Is he even in the mv at all????
Jezreel Samatra he is, but only sparsely
@@bsn1-8samatrajezreelrose97 only the non dance parts, like walking and them leaning on a car
ikr i kept on counting and was so confused seeing 9 members dancing instead of 10
jungwoo smiling at his 2 sec part is the precious thing ever . dear SM please respect and give our winwin and jungwoo more lines ! 127 still need winwin 💗🌈 winwin hasn't officially left 127 yet , don't fade up nctzen . let's pray ✊🏻💗
They literally took Mnet's MV Commentary concept lmao this is just savage
Good bye mnet
LMAO IKR and they made their own commentary into their own channel 😂😂 LEGENDS ONLY
I thought the same
mnet is cancelledt LMAO JKKKKK
They was like we don't need mnet to do the MV commentary
When you realize SM said screw you to WINWIN in 3 different languages.
SUGA_Kookies42
i shouldn’t be laughing-
In 4
Japanese
Chinese
English
Korean
Just look at regular
they LITERALLY did, regular was in english, korean, *and* chinese, but he still had the same. damn. amount. of lines.
I AM DYING , BY JUST THE LOOK OF HIS FACE AND THE WAY HE IS CLAPING.........
8:19
WINWIN’s face right here. It breaks my heart, really. He’s not treated right even though his heart is warm and his talent is amazing.
I'm happy WinWin is in Wayv, although he was great in 127, I think there are more opportunities in WayV, and he is happier
i love how jaehyun lowkey comforted winwin with this he was also quiet the entire time with winwin.
Yeah exactly😞😞😞
i love how you can read his mind.. pls don't drag any other members into this
nav oab you’re acting like this person is saying something bad about the other members 😂 sensitive ass
My 97' boys💓
*jungwoo smiles when his part came*
me :
repeat for 999x
sameee
'Hands up heundeureo' this is all of WinWin's lines in the song. This, to me isn't even equivalent of one line. WinWin deserves the same love and respect given to every single other member. WinWin, we will always be on your side and SM.. PLEASE step up your game. Humans are not just toys or objects you can throw aside if you don't like them. Humans have emotions. Humans have feelings. Humans are REAL. WinWin is REAL AND HE DESERVES ONLY THE BEST.
Edit: WinWin has one more line but still, that doesn't make up for anything I said
For me that's not even a real line. It's just like backing vocal
8:21 If i was Taeyong id be like
“STOP.. Where is WinWin here?”
Lowkey i wanted him to say that so much
I think all of them wanted to say it but SM is pretty much a control freak. They cant even treat the veteran groups well, how much more these young men? It makes me hella mad but at least Winwin is in Wayv now.
I think all of them want to mention win win too but they can't like Cymopelia said. I think when yuta said always say I love you after commenting is the way he cheer Winwin up..
honestly im glad he didnt... if i was winwin and someone said that for me i think i would start crying on the spot lmao.. and winwin already looked like he was holding back tears at some points :(
I think the members saw he was sad (they were glancing at him a lot) so they probably respected that and didn't pry into things more. I hope Winwin got a healthy cry in his room after this, coz now he slays in wayv 😔😔 dong sicheng, you did well!
*127ZENS I NEED YOUR ATTENTION*
Czennies, please. I saw on twitter that some of us started the hashtag #nct127_is_10 in order to bring back winwin. There, someone even made an email template to mass email SM. Ot10 is up to us. Spread the word.
If you can't find the template or don't have twitter, tell me, I'll send you the link.
I WANT MORE WINWIN he looks so sad and it’s breaking my heart...
*_MISTER SM, I repeat this name is WINWIN not LOSELOSE_*
es in wayv now did you not heard that.
@@yeosanglinesstan6996 and ?? how does it relate to what they commented ?? him being in wayv doesnt change the fact that he was mistreated in 127
@@nayanthara7097 I was just saying that.... he was okay now with wayv..... what's wrong with that I'm just assuring them that's hes okay now with his members at wayv.,..
@@yeosanglinesstan6996 he was okay with 127 members too??? I love wayv and i dont think wayv has anything to do with this comment
@@nayanthara7097 did you even get what I say. I mean he was getting exposure that he deserves.... I'm just assuring her. Why? Wayv is part of nct. I'm just saying that winwin is not loselose. I dont have bad intention..
Love wayv? Tsk
That's it, I'm liking every comment that gives of the respect winwin vibe lol
Crafty Me Too 😭😭😭💙💙💙
Sameeee 😩💔
윈윈이랑 정우 파트 실종...
정우 잠깐 자기 나오니깐 웃는거봐 ㅠㅜ2:47
스엠 너무해 진짜 ...
The members hyping up Taeil and his high note....I think we can all agree we all need friends like them T^T
it's really sad when most of the comments on this video are about Winwin and how uncomfortable he clearly is. Everyone is concerned with SM's inability to treat him right and I hope that they will do something about this seeing as almost every nctizen is worried about him.
i hope they noticed all these comments... they probably did. but would they do anything about it ?
Im glad they finally made a sub unit for chinese members♡
Tiffany ·ᴗ· but still.. his lines are still not enough.. let’s wait for another comeback
It got even worse
Ciarah :((
97 line taking care of each other. You can clearly see that Jaehyun is concern of Winwin
*127ZENS I NEED YOUR ATTENTION*
Czennies, please. I saw on twitter that some of us started the hashtag #nct127_is_10 in order to bring back winwin. There, someone even made an email template to mass email SM. Ot10 is up to us. Spread the word.
If you can't find the template or don't have twitter, tell me, I'll send you the link.
2:48 정우 지 나오니까 슬쩍 웃는거봐 ㅋㅋ 졸귀다
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 저리 좋아하는데 파트 개적어요 아;
Omg seeing Winwin’s face looking so damn empty pushes me to compare back to Touch era 😭 how could this be.....
my bias looking tired, sad, and stoic completely throughout an 8+ minute video is definitely not the way i want them to look. WINWIN did so much for SM just to be treated like a ghost in return. the idea of him leaving NCT127 hurts. but the idea of him staying in NCT127 and having barely any lines & basically appear as a cameo in his own group mv fucking tears me apart. he deserves better.
and istg that if he is treated the same way as a member of WAYV, i will YEET SM off the face of the earth!! i'm tired of him being treated poorly, i'm tired of him looking sad and stoic. i just want to see him shine brighter (with the other underrated members) but SM really be playing with us and NCT smfh
yuto's yutoda
mind you, sm literally CHASED winwin for him to join sm entertainment, and this is how they’re treating him? so much for wanting to have him join...
I totally agree with both of you , WinWin has so much potential and for him to not even be given opportunities just breaks my heart into pieces
on the bright side, he's in wayV rn and he seems to be doing much better :)
Kings of reacting their own videos. I STAN
I HATE IT
I HATE THAT my hands are hurting from liking all the comments about winwin he deserves better he has talent thats going to wast he needs more liness and screentime
me too, omg i crying
@@irisborges1660 you’re not alone :(
Me too, I'm tired from liking every Winwin supporting Comment,but I can't stop 😭😭😭
:
@@luvleeyongie384 I looked at this again and did the same. I'm so sad even though it's been 3 years
Winwin looks so sad and tired. I just want to give him a big fat hug.
even if winwin isn’t your bias, he’s that one member you’re always cheering for. always hoping for them to do well and succeed. he’s that “special place in your heart” member. whenever you see him smile, your heart be on that grinch shit and grows three sizes. sm... please let the underdog shine. i love him so much. fighting winwin💜
this comment is beautiful :’) this is exactly how I feel about winwin. he’s not my bias but I’m forever rooting for him and he really does have that special place in my heart
JaeYong is the iconic visual duo gtfo of here then. you’re not a nctzen.
zippora yeah that's true
aye i really wanna give ma boy a big hug and tell him that he has worked very hard abd that i'm super proud of him
JaeYong is the iconic visual duo no one asked you a question if he’s your bias or not . literally asking for clout
Bro my heart hurts so bad rn especially when Winwin came on the screen but Winwin didn't react at all he just looked like he was about to cry wtf now I'm gonna cry 😭
who is here after 90's love and winwin got no lines just llike this one
until now lmao can i die? tf SM
chenle please buy sm
but, 90's love better than this, sometimes winwin got the center
Me😭
@@imsmprince580 Same please someone tell Chenle to buy sm and give the unappreciated members their lines and screen time they deserve 😭
Well, from the english translation, I know that WinWin has like TWO lines
TWO LINES
I can't hear WINWIN'S VOICE in this video. When I saw his face, I feel bad. He doesn't have a solo screen, choreography 😭
Soshi 9lyrics it’s ok let’s hope for the best when nct China comes out!
Soshi 9lyrics Because he was preparing for NCT VISION (China), that's why he wasn't in their dance parts. He won't be promoting with them in Simon Says era lol
Who's win win?
Sofia Botteron If you pause at 0:04 he’s on the left
Sofia Botteron dong sicheng uwu. in the four screen parts hes the furthest to the left
at 6:33 jungwoo said that the red screen reminded him about the 7th sense but nobody noticed. baby ㅠㅠ his voice is so soft
I'm a Winwin stan and can I just say, this video broke my heart. Poor Sicheng didn't have any lines or screentime (practically). SM treats him like he's some kind of background dancer for the boys and it seems like one cares for his feelings. Look at his poor face, he seem like he was about to cry. No one ever seems to mention him in these types of videos and he is never acknowledged. Don't you think that maybe he wishes he could be praised like taeyong or mark is? But he will never get the chance to all because of SM. Seriously. They struck gold with Sicheng. Most trainees seem like ordinary people off the street but winwin is a beautifully and technically trained dancer who KNOWS how to put on a show and perform, not to mention the fact that he looks absolutely BREATHTAKING. I have never seen an idol who's looks surprise me everytime i see them. And if SM had properly trained him (maybe they did but we will never know) then he could have been just as an amazing singer/rapper as the other boys. And maybe HE IS but we will never know cause we will never get to hear him sing. And then there's the fact that SM has been doing this sort of thing towards its Chinese artists for years and it has to STOP. I'm sick of SM's attitude and disrespect towards its chinese artists and trainees. I really hope SM does him justice in NCT China, but if they don't I'm losing all respect for SM.
I'm Luke Skywalker I'm Here To Rescue You I agree :(
he is trained, they dont give him lines bc he is chinese and the korean pronunciation which is so unfair:( they shouldve waited to debut him in nct china:( i dont want him to feel bad
Agree!
I feel so sad man
RIGHT??? omg I've always been annoyed with the fact that he's a dancer but always been pushed behind :-( maybe his lines can be improved gradually but for him to constantly be at the back?? seriously -_- and this was so not well planned by sm, they could have completely excluded winwin in this comeback instead of having him in and out constantly (I mean come on, you didn't include him in the dance and he has like what, 0.0002 seconds in the mv (ok maybe not but you get what I mean) but you expect him to react to it?? or have him join this comeback, and push NCT's VISION debut back slightly next year to give him a break or push back this repackage zzz I don't understand why they're squeezing everything into November, especially when there's only a week left zzz I honestly love NCT so much just hurts me that some members are treated less fairly than the rest t.t hopefully it improves!!!
i think jaehyun knows winwin's feeling thats why he's no comment in the entire of video
I think he knows him well. And Jaehyun always support winwin even winwin is not in 127 now
@@chiowhunttee6781 yeah, since both of him on the same liner
Honestly every one of us was looking at winwin for the whole video.
Melody • metoo😅😅
Yeah
Melody • left top screen, boy at the very left. with the black vest over blue and white striped shirt
Same I was looking at winwin and jungwoo my heart breaks for them when winwin was so serious through the video and jungwoos happy/shy smile even tho he only had about 2 seconds makes me want to hit SM across the face to make him get some sense
@@Mia-lt9tv ?
To be honest I didn't watch the whole video because I cant stand Winwin's reaction. It breaks my heart and I almost cried. I just came here to like all the comments about him so that SM fckng ent would realized how angry we are for treating Sicheng bad.
Jongdae Mochi samee 🙄
seeing winwin smiling while the other are praising each other makes my heart broken. i literally cry what to do T_T
I hate this, nct 127 is so awkward unit
being an idol like him is like being trapped on a pedestal while seeing others rise to fame, and you just curl up, lost and alone and afraid because you aren't loved like they are, you're happy for them but you're breaking, you wonder why you wanted to be here, you wonder why you're still here if you can't even speak, and your throat dries up, and you hold the smile because you don't want the others to worry
but when the video ends and you return to the dorms, you start to cry, because you can't hold it in anymore, because you just want a bit of attention, you just want one line, but no
they won't give you anything
they put you on the pedestal but don't allow you to rise
and you cry
you break
new opportunities are around the corner.
you join a new unit, and you still don't have a lot of lines, but you have more than you used to
you're happier
you had friends in 127
but you're happier here
finally you've achieved what you came to do
finally you feel a sense of purpose
finally,
you are satisfied,
and proud of yourself.
[ fighting for winwin ]
Winwin looks like he's hurt or about to cry. I'm glad he's in WayV now. :)
7:35 I want someone to look at me like Taeyong looks at Mark
xxsoomi I
I was thinkin the same damn thing as you do. Yaaas
get yourself a taeyong lmaoo
easy
step 1:be mark
step 2:sit beside taeyong
My heart melts 😭
You can tell that Haechan, Mark and Jaehyun were pissed that WinWin barely got a line 💔💔
Kyla Holder 😢
I think they all notice it but some didnt show it 🥺 Jaehyun looked mad and pissed off and Winwin looked sad
Yuta noticed it too..
🥺what a family
And screen times😬
winwin looking so empty breaks my heart. he deserves more and sm knows that. stay strong, winwin. we love you
Yes..i think he was sad🥺🥺🥺 my heart broken💔💔💔
😭😭😭😭
I'm actually so sad rn. Poor Winwin he looks so sad. SM stop mistreating such an amazingly talented person. Smh sm needs to improve a lot
But he is in wayv now...
@@sparklingnite_2727 yeh ino but even when he was in nct 127 sm should've treated him better
*_Winwin is making me cry and die inside_*
He deserves way better than this. His expression throughout the whole video just breaks my heart.
Winwin face and reaction look sad and idk what he look really dissapointed
He really deserved more line in the future nct127 album
I hope in nct china he will more lines than this😔😔😔😢
Jaehyun has no comments for this reaction. I think because he feels sad for Winwin. And in 7:31 when Jaehyun looked and looked at Winwin briefly aahhh it's really make me 💔
Ya
It’s really sad and I’m happy that all of them really love their Winwin and take care of him😭🥺💗
4:24 too
yo same..like my heart is not ok rn
Seeing how sad winwin looked broke me sm😔
Simon says let's give some lines to win win yuta and Johnny
Edit* I just saw now this comment has 1k likesssss .. tysm guys🤣♥️
preach
AND JUNGWOO
and jungwoo:')
Dhira Lia I miss jungwoo
@@isabellasolaimani why ? What happened ?
그래.. 윈윈이가 127 가장 초기 멤버인데 이렇게 차별받으면서 활동하는 것보다 웨이브이에서 웃으면서 활동하는 게 더 좋은 것 같아.. 가끔은 윈윈이가 127로 같이 활동했으면 하지만 이 영상만 보면 내 이기심이 너무하다는 생각이 들어,, 웨이브이에선 127에서 한 번도 보여주지 못한 모습들을 많이 보여주고, 원하는 안무도 배우는 모습이 난 더 좋고 그런 윈윈이를 응원해
Winwin didn't say a SINGLE word the entire video, his eyes just looked sad and even a non fan would see that. Also 7:54 right here you can see exactly how uncomfortable and spaced out he is, everyone was reacting and making noises but he was just sitting there. I'm gonna cry
i’ll cry with you, i’ll grab the tissues while i’m at it 🤧🤧
I’m with you guys...should I bring ice cream...?
I’m gonna cry with you, fam... does anyone need a hug? I can give you a hug...
Every time Jungwoo smiled after seeing himself I UWUED SO HARD
Yeah true...he is so cute
So hard😭😭😭 I love him
We need to protect him at all times 😍
i’m so proud of being a sicheng stan... i really stan the most humble, selfless, hard working, strong, patient and kind man ever...
진짜 이때 개빡쳤음 무용하는 애 데려와서 데뷔시켜 놓고 보스때부터 지금까지 부른 파트가 다섯 손가락 안에도 안 뽑힘 그럼 뮤비 분량이라도 주던가 한참 보면서 윈윈이는 언제 나오나 기다렸는데 단 한장면도 나오지를 않음 이런식으로 외국멤버 차별할 거면 애초에 윈윈이를 왜 데려왔나 싶을 정도임 태용이랑 마크 각각 반 정도씩 분량 떼서 줘도 윈윈이 분량 딱 맞게 나올 수 있을 것 같은데 내가 윈윈이고 저 자리에 있었어도 보면서 어처구니 없을 듯 스엠 이런식으로 일하지마
차라리 리액션 영상에도 출연시키지말든가 저거보면서 뭔 코멘트를 하라는건지 모르겠음.... 진짜 나였으면 속상해서 울었을듯
winwin looked so sad the whole video. he is so talented and deserves as much respect as the other members. i just want him to know that he’s appreciated and loved by all of us.
simon says it is NCTzen reaction to winwin's suffering
@Yunseo Park ikr... hes usually jamming in vids like this but i can see hes upset
Their reactions are the same as NCTzens istg
Yes! It's funny 😂♡
I'll wait for engsub
HAHAHA YES
@@peridot8237 they have it now
이걸 리액션영상으로 찍은 목적이 대체 뭐였을까..진짜 스엠은사이코인가..
WinWin looked like he was about to cry throughout this whole video and it absolutely breaks my heart. He is treated so poorly by SM, as if he's a backup dancer and second class citizen. He deserves so much more. This is why idols leave SM, because they're treated like dirt. I'm hoping and praying that WinWin won't leave, but if this treatment continues, it might be best for him to leave. SM, I hope you start treating your idols better, otherwise they WILL start leaving. I love you Winwin, so much. I hope you know that, and I hope that you show SM why you're deserving of more.
When doyoung said Let's Winwin and then yuta smiled and said that's funny uwu
Jungwoo's reactions at himself is the purest thing ever fight me
Ema that uwuness💓
it's disgusting how sm just sleeps on winwin like this
he ain't a goddamn bed
winwin literally won a first place in a worldwide dance compitition and sm is out here treating winwin like trash
I cant really watch winwin watching the mv. It feels like he's trying to hide the pain and looks happy. I feel sad too. This song should be an opportunity for nct to rise, as well as each members. I hope sm will treat all their artist well if they want me(others too) to respect sm. Hurm
nct out here making their own commentary instead of mnet's ? I STAN
I was going to comment this 😂😂
I was searching for this comment!
All I want is for Winwin to get the screen time and lines he deserves I know everyone is saying this but Jesus I feel so bad for him I just wanna hug him
8:58 haechan looking at winwin to check if he's ok:(
I didnt even notice that WinWin wasnt a part of the dance until now. Like what the hell. Winwin is just as talented as the rest of the members and he deserves respect. He doesnt deserve to just be treated as just a pretty face and give him two lines every song. He works just as hard as the other members for their comebacks yet he always gets left behind. He looked so sad and so uncomfortable throughout this entire video. He has his arms crossed and even bites his lip a few times as if to hold back tears. That broke my heart. How can they possibly want him to react to one of their music video that he was barley even a part of? He puts his heart and soul into what he does and for him to be treated this unfairly is beyond words. I hope he gets the recognition he deserves when NCT China (or Vision) debuts because the way he is being treated, as if he isnt even truly a part of the group is infuriating.
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We love you so so much WinWin! Be strong! ❤
kind of sad sm treat him like shit even for Wayv
He wasn't in the dance? Why?
@Luc's Ass oh thanks
@@mahbuba4864 what do you mean treat him like shit?
the way winwin put his around his neck, clenched his hands, biting his lip makes me so sad. he is so obviously disappointed. i wish winwin has more lines. sm kept mistreating foreign line especially China line. Winwin was in almost all NCT units (except for NCT Dream) yet he barely had lines. i honestly think this is one of sm's "strategies" so that we keep on insisting sm to give more lines to china line so that we keep on waiting. idk i'm so pissed to see my bias this frustrated.
And also kun :(
@@xoxoianna8007 ik everyone says he got lines in without you Chinese ver. But they forget he doesn't have any songs.
instead of disappointed, more like used to it. it's fcking sad and i will never forgive sm for mistreating him.
I was crying when watched his face looked sad
@Amora Lynn he's a dancer, bit he is barely ever in the front or has screen time.
*nct 127 sitting in silence for four minutes straight*
bella aleena this is the high quality content tzennies signed up for
and they said that's their real reaction 😂😂 probably because they've made the recording alot of times so it's not that much of a shock to them and there's not much of reaction to show
@navajo tea they are extremely exhausted.. i was focusing on mark only during the first part and he almost fell asleep
Winwin looks like he is about to cry i wanna hug him :( but know he was WayV ;)
I’m very sad Winwin is getting disrespected left and right but I’m seeing some comments hating on Taeyong and Mark. I whole heartedly believe Winwin deserves way more lines, but the rappers have a lot of lines because they’re good and that’s the kind of music NCT creates. I’m not saying Winwin isn’t talented because obviously he is but I think it is not okay to hate on Taeyong and Mark. But still, justice for Winwin.
True. That's why I spoke up. You can see the real fans from those who aren't.
Jongslay i think win win Looks so sad, he is also not in the whole dance performance and maybe has 2 seconds of screen time :( i feel so sad for my Baby Boy :/
Taeyong is main in everything and he is leader and he is Center. Of course, he will always appear.
They once mention that Winwin only train for a year before he debuted maybe that’s why he wasn’t able to fully practice and enhance his vocal or rap skills but because he is good at dancing SM made him debut. And at that time his Korean isn’t good yet and might be hard for him to express the songs. Maybe in the future or in this new NCT unit they maybe give him more lines that he deserve 😃.
@싱그운명 yeah he is a dancer, but why is he not in the dance performance than?!
I have to watch this 10 times to make sure I didn't miss anything
lololol
are you me
same
Smcookies ,I love your username
Same here lol
Everyone hyping up Taeil’s high note, we love supporting brothers.
0:03 a friendly reminder to all the new NCTzens you will fall for the guy on the left side named WINIWN one day ☺️
PURE FACTS 😍☺️😇
and I did, new fan here tho hahahah
the very first one i noticed in nct ^_-
I did ❤️
Yesss