NYC’s Proposal to Extend Manhattan Island

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  • @FuturologyChannel
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    • @carlosrivas1629
      @carlosrivas1629 ปีที่แล้ว

      SO MANHATTAN get a penile implant injection? long island penis is still bigger.

    • @ncard00
      @ncard00 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stupid, just improve public transit, especially trains, so people can commute longer from where they already live, and more people settle down outside the big cities.

    • @JE-ee7cd
      @JE-ee7cd ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awesome stuff! 😊👍

    • @guidedmeditation2396
      @guidedmeditation2396 ปีที่แล้ว

      .............. but I thought the seas were rising and Manhattan island was going to be underwater in ten years. You cannot trust the trillionaire elites and their plans. Its all fear mongering to seize control. The same goes for Miami. They claim it is going to be underwater in ten years and here we are 40 years later and it is not only not underwater but they are planning to turn it into a mega city for the Americas rivaling Shang Hai all while they also claim the seas are rising and we are all doomed and must adopt their authoritarian control over your life.

    • @hwdprtn7670
      @hwdprtn7670 ปีที่แล้ว

      If such reclamation project ever comes true, it can be called Governors Peninsula in memory of the Governors Island it merges.

  • @pauldecoster
    @pauldecoster ปีที่แล้ว +723

    As a New Yorker, I like the idea of protection against storms, but new housing units mean nothing if rents remain staggering.

    • @lanxy2398
      @lanxy2398 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      267,000 thousand new units of housing would definitely open up affordable housing options. If they extend Manhattan and also just build more buildings and make them taller in all 5 boroughs there’s no reason why rents will stay sky high, but only time can tell

    • @chiquita683
      @chiquita683 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Where does the water go? Oh yea it floods all the other boroughs that cant be raised up higher as the sea level increases. L af

    • @punche5250
      @punche5250 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Why would rents remain staggering? Do you know why things are priced the way they are? If things cost too much it is usually because there is a shortage. There are too many people in the city for the amount of housing. If 2,000 acres were added, it would probably solve the shortage problem.

    • @ewnyMetroExpress
      @ewnyMetroExpress ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@lanxy2398 Thank you! Affordable housing has been an issue ever since NYC became a metropolitan, our great grand children won't live to see it.

    • @YTEdy
      @YTEdy ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Oh yeah. These are housing units for the rich. No question.

  • @manwiththeredface7821
    @manwiththeredface7821 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Investors would jump on it and hike the prices up all the same. This is the only reason this project would ever be greenlit.

    • @damnimloomin
      @damnimloomin ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Which is why I think locals would vote it down and have fierce resistance. We can see what these investors are doing to borrklyn and now the Bronx it is pushing more people out.

    • @bruhbutwhytho
      @bruhbutwhytho ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ⁠@@damnimloominyou realize that more housing supply in Manhattan would likely lower prices in the outer boroughs though right?

    • @damnimloomin
      @damnimloomin ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bruhbutwhytho i mean that sounds great until you remember the same group of people set the prices for all of them are are literally leaving a ton of apartments empty right now to inflate the prices, so i am skeptical to say the least.

    • @seismicfloss
      @seismicfloss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rent control is a major part of the problem but New York isn't ready for that conversation.

    • @olimphus26
      @olimphus26 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh no, it will be greelit because of them dollah signs in their eyes.

  • @davida.rodriguez8870
    @davida.rodriguez8870 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    If new Manhatta were to be built, it's not going to be directed to affordable housing deficiencies in the city nor middle class income homes which are desperately needed. It's absurd to think so given the last few expansions in the city. This will be another elite playground like Hudson Yards, the Highline, and Domino Park, etc. etc. Who are we kidding? You'd be delusional to think that, and I say this as an Architect who works in the city. Let's deal with the problems we can currently address within the existing confines. I think we'd be better off than these pipe dreams that only serve the developers and elites.

    • @AaronTheGreat________
      @AaronTheGreat________ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂😂😂 no u just like to moan😂

    • @AL-lh2ht
      @AL-lh2ht 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      cope and seeth

    • @georgesealy4706
      @georgesealy4706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I definitely agree. Well said.

  • @jjohnson649
    @jjohnson649 ปีที่แล้ว +984

    It would take decades for New York State to get this done but the Chinese communist party would have this completed by New Year

    • @U.K.N
      @U.K.N ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Fr

    • @innosam123
      @innosam123 ปีที่แล้ว +371

      And then the new land would sink into the ocean. 😂

    • @domtweed7323
      @domtweed7323 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jokes aside, their are no NIMBYs in the ocean, so they might be okay (same reason offshore wind is easier to build than onshore wind).
      Also they could use trash to fill in the reclaimed land, and New York makes loads of trash.

    • @jimbo1637
      @jimbo1637 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The CCP can build faster because they're an authoritarian government and the build to lower standards than we do here in the US.

    • @zwarga100
      @zwarga100 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      regular new year or lunar new year ?

  • @dlmcc0202
    @dlmcc0202 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    I unfortunately can’t see any scenario where NYC would actually build low cost housing. The public sector here can’t get anything done and there’s no money in low cost housing to entice the private sector to bother investing in it

    • @AAthlete34
      @AAthlete34 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean if you cant afford living in one of the most expensive cities in the US, why dont you just move out.

    • @dlmcc0202
      @dlmcc0202 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@AAthlete34 I live just fine I own a home, but we’re bringing it vast numbers of illlegals and as it is the working class can’t afford apartments. The amount of homeless people we have is a huge problem and it’s going to get worse. The city can’t seem to get out of its own way, the amount of red tape there is with construction permits and costs makes low income housing unprofitable for developers and this city blows its budget on other things. Long term it’s not viable for the city to be completely unaffordable for majority of the people who do live here and are forced to rent. You’re seeing the middle class fleeing to Florida, Tennesee, etc and those tax payers are being replaced by people coming here with no work and forced to sleep in front of these hotels. you can’t have just the wealthy and the poor

    • @larrygrimaldi1400
      @larrygrimaldi1400 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are so many rules about residential construction and rentals that it is impossible to build new affordable housing. Change some of those to make it profitable and it could be just like the middle of the country. Not likely to happen, rules increase, which raises prices.

    • @andyorwig
      @andyorwig 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed. There is no direct benefit for those to be built, especially tied into the financial district and below.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dlmcc0202 Illegals have little to do with the decades of the real estate game driving up housing costs while providing 0 benefit to justify said costs to the consumers

  • @bscottb8
    @bscottb8 ปีที่แล้ว +567

    Cities like Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester and Binghamton, each with great architecture, are dying for redevelopment. Filling in rivers to make Manhattan even more congested is nuts.

    • @jamesmurphy9426
      @jamesmurphy9426 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately common sense is no longer available
      New York City is the capital of waste *( money laundry services)

    • @virginiamoss7045
      @virginiamoss7045 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention sea level rise due to climate change.

    • @bruhbutwhytho
      @bruhbutwhytho ปีที่แล้ว +78

      More people want to live in nyc than upstate

    • @bruhbutwhytho
      @bruhbutwhytho ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @JamieGAdaire people are leaving those cities because they are extremely expensive. They are expensive because a lot of people want to live there.

    • @jamesmurphy9426
      @jamesmurphy9426 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bruhbutwhytho More owners of property can get away with a closet as an apartment

  • @carlinthomas9482
    @carlinthomas9482 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    I like the idea, but it would be better to redirect the money into expanding infrastructure instead. Improve the connections to Staten Island and Hudson County, NJ so they're more accessible so people can live further from Manhattan. Build the pedestrian bridge from Manhattan to Jersey City as a start, then build other pedestrian bridges and gondola's across the Hudson for easier access to Manhattan.

    • @SquidCena
      @SquidCena ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Also build a bridge from Long Island to Westchester or something so we can lessen the load of traffic that has to go through the Bronx/NYC so people can just travel from Connecticut to NJ easier, besides I-95

    • @samdaaman622
      @samdaaman622 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @faldovifendi6878
      @faldovifendi6878 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Why would New York help New Jersey? Every dollar spent on New Jersey is a dollar of loss revenue for New York government.
      Your idea is actually good, but in reality New York will never do it.

    • @ramenmcminecraft190
      @ramenmcminecraft190 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's nice thinking, but woah it would be expensive to build bridges over a river as big as the Hudson, especially if they do not have as wide-reaching effects as a car bridge. Don't get me wrong though, I love pedestrian bridges.

    • @ramenmcminecraft190
      @ramenmcminecraft190 ปีที่แล้ว

      More people living in new jersey would lessen the housing crisis in new york while at the same time making commuting into ny for work even nicer, thereby attracting more offices and jobs, creating a cycle.@@faldovifendi6878

  • @JesusChrist-qs8sx
    @JesusChrist-qs8sx ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Building all luxury housing on it would actually alleviate the housing prices. Some older "luxury" buildings would empty out. The problem is that it still wouldn't be enough to fix the problem of spiraling rents

    • @Fatta007
      @Fatta007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Empty out and rented right back out

    • @treyshaffer
      @treyshaffer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fatta007 rented out for cheaper... supply and demand buddy, increase the supply and prices will fall unless there's price fixing, in which case, enforce regulations against that

  • @dcss89
    @dcss89 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This will not solve the housing shortage problem. Throughout the existing city of New York there are hundreds of thousands of empty properties, belonging to speculators and renters. When the new neighborhood is built, the new homes will certainly end up in the hands of these same guys, who will continue to charge unaffordable prices, making the problem of housing shortages persist.

    • @ryanbailey6900
      @ryanbailey6900 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely, the problem is greed. There’s many empty apartments already

    • @DwynNWynns
      @DwynNWynns 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL. The city should get out of the business of private contracts. Rent control is destroying the city.

    • @ryanbailey6900
      @ryanbailey6900 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DwynNWynns rent control is the only way many people can afford to live in new york. if anything they need to expand it

  • @kszatmary
    @kszatmary ปีที่แล้ว +99

    If such a southward extension of Manhattan island were developed, would not incoming storm surges simply be forcibly channeled up the Hudson and East Rivers? Wouldn't that additional massive volume of surge waters then flood low lying areas of Upper Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx to a far greater extent than the degree to which they're currently at risk?

    • @darylb5564
      @darylb5564 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was thinking the exact same thing.

    • @PendulumCancel
      @PendulumCancel ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Privatize the wins from increased property values for the rich Mantatta residents and socialize the losses for the middle and lower class tax payers of NY who will have to pay for this boondoggle project. It makes a single tear roll down this proud American's cheek.
      Beautiful/Hideous

    • @ClarkBK67
      @ClarkBK67 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Look at you! Thinking about easily foreseeable consequences! We can’t have that!

    • @Kalagenesis
      @Kalagenesis ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Also you need bedrock and stone for tall buildings and NYC infrastructure.Most land reclaimation only fill with sand

    • @spuds6423
      @spuds6423 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@KalagenesisThat is why the WTC had to be built in a "bathtub" of bentonite concrete because bedrock is hundreds of feet below the surface. Even in Syracuse, the original Carousel Mall was built over "made land " consisting of multiple layers of marl, solvay and Coal gasification waste and anything else they could find. They never met a "waste they never liked" back in the day. It's about 300 ft to bedrock along the Lakeshore of Onondaga Lake.

  • @deedeeumondak4490
    @deedeeumondak4490 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Look's like what's happening in Lagos, Nigeria. Lagos is reclaiming and expanding its size through the Eko Atlantic project. It started as a project to protect Lagos islands and Victoria Island in Lagos against flooding and erosion of its coast line from the Atlantic ocean then they went further to reclaim about 25km² of land from the ocean to build a new city on it. The project is still on going and worth talking about.

    • @spicychad55
      @spicychad55 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Netherlands is the best example of reclaiming land like half their country used to be the ocean.

    • @mickeyhadley4281
      @mickeyhadley4281 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guess they’re banking on China and the U.S. to solve rising sea levels and changing climate. Really?!

    • @markgreen950
      @markgreen950 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What they are building there is for the super rich so they don't have to look at the poors.

  • @blu12gaming44
    @blu12gaming44 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    This looks like pure tone-deaf hubris in action. The rising water level is threatening to put a lot of lower Manhattan underwater in 100 years and now they want to extend the insanely expensive burden of keeping a below sea-level city dry by expanding it even further. Just develop the parts of NY and NJ that look like a post-industrial hellscape. If you want to sink huge sums of money into something: just spend it on high density housing in other parts of the city that are further inland, maybe even Fort Lee in NJ since it's above a cliff.
    To be honest, it sounds like an idea some coked-up Wall St guy hatched up while looking out of his office. Just improve what you have.

    • @TheBooban
      @TheBooban ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agree, but after they get the money from rich folks for this, they can use it to rejuvenate the rest of the city. But you know they never spend money wisely.

    • @skygge1006
      @skygge1006 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sea levels will only go up a few feet so it’s cheaper to protect the probably hundreds of billions of dollars or more in value on Manhattan than to give it up when you have a solution.

    • @mharley3791
      @mharley3791 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can fix both what you have and dream about future

    • @stanman260
      @stanman260 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skygge1006
      This is an incredibly dumb idea that is only going to punish poor people by making them serve as a barrier to lower Manhattan's elite. Google the NY Bight. It is a geographical region that is highly susceptible to extreme storm surge. Expanding further INTO the Bight would be the most blindsided idiotic thing if it wasn't a move to protect rich assets by making the extension basically a buffer full of sacrificial poor people. As others said this money should be used to BUILD out further into NYC noticably improving the Bronx and upzoning upstate areas. Fighting nature is not wise. This is hubris and corruption.

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  • @xCODFATHER4x
    @xCODFATHER4x ปีที่แล้ว +48

    As a video editor here on youtube, I have to toss my hat to the amount of effort put into this vdeo. I can literally feel the pain of the amount of effort put in this video. Incredible job!

    • @bakermakingbread
      @bakermakingbread ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I noticed the editing too as someone who edits quite a bit, but the sound effects felt a bit over edited to me. Still a lot of effort though.

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      @FuturologyChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @TiberiousGreene
      @TiberiousGreene ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking the same thing!

    • @MondoMiami
      @MondoMiami ปีที่แล้ว

      Toss your hat? Does anyone read anymore?

  • @sussy_6998
    @sussy_6998 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    3700 US for 2 people in a 500 square meter apartment is just craaazy 💀💀

    • @charlesdossett8581
      @charlesdossett8581 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's 500 square feet and equates to 46.45 square meters.

    • @sweetcupcake2741
      @sweetcupcake2741 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nobody wants 30x the space for the same price in texas

  • @marquessman
    @marquessman ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your brother could move to Brooklyn, or Queens, and pay significantly less in rent; but that reduces the "Cool" factor of living in Manhattan, so he'll probably continue to pay astronomical rent. Let's face it: he could be paying less for a mortgage somewhere else, and have the benefits of ownership.

  • @eric2500
    @eric2500 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    *I am revising my previous comment after looking at the shape of the proposal - that's not a storm barrier, that's a storm channel straight into Midtown, Brooklyn Queens and the East River Islands.*
    You'd need to build barrier islands and wetlands in the Outer Harbor first. They you could put housing on New Manahatta

  • @xg6hpyk
    @xg6hpyk ปีที่แล้ว +42

    As someone who lives on the opposite side of the Hudson River in New Jersey, I'm disappointed that nothing was discussed about what a project would do to the nearby surrounding areas outside of Manhattan

    • @yox465
      @yox465 ปีที่แล้ว

      yup, when you raise that land you drive the flooding into hoboken, downtown jersey city, coastal bayonne and weehawken. it porobably would affect red hook brooklyn and staten island . but who cares there's trillions to be made.

    • @OhhCats
      @OhhCats ปีที่แล้ว

      Cities in NJ across the river have sewer lines that are 100 years old.
      These sewer lines are combined, i.e. there are no separate lines for rain water and waste water.
      People in Manhattan live in 21-st century, people in NJ live in the beginning of 20-th century.
      When you cross Hudson river, you go 100 years back in time.

    • @TheExoplanetTVOfficial
      @TheExoplanetTVOfficial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are just gonna make a subway expansion and hopefully house 200,000 people. Thats kinda it.

    • @JJAB91
      @JJAB91 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OhhCats hahahahahahaha
      oh wait you're serious. let me laugh even harder
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @richland1980
    @richland1980 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It takes years to complete environmental impact studies for a simple bridge in NYC.

  • @keikairin2038
    @keikairin2038 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    In spite of the recent flooding in NYC I would assume this city would decide to avoid removing the 'area with which the excess water resides'. You need space for water in a world of increasing sea levels, not more spaces to put people.

    • @paulo6456
      @paulo6456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The north american continent doesnt have more space in land? Why create more space where water is? In a couple years the river will claim what was taken from it.

    • @keikairin2038
      @keikairin2038 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulo6456
      Uh...yeah that is what I said....

  • @ramenmcminecraft190
    @ramenmcminecraft190 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Honestly, before you can even go into the longer-term problems of if it would actually help, funding imo as a nyer is the main problem. As you said, if private companies fund it, they would just create a rich paradise and not help actual nyers, while in no way does ny or NYC have the money to pay for it. Besides, it makes a lot more sense to develop underdeveloped land in and around the city. Its a cool concept, but it will remain like as just that for a long time, maybe ven forever.

    • @Chaotic_Pixie
      @Chaotic_Pixie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the issue is NYC is already developed to the hilt... the only spaces not overdeveloped are the affordable places to live. And you can't pave over the parks. Greenspace is essential and NYC doesn't have enough as it is. What needs to happen is for majority empty buildings to be demolished after their minimal residents are relocated at city expense & the city needs to require development of the property to be mixed use with retail/community space on the bottom, and then at least a 60/40 split of affordable to high end units. They also need to raise the height cap in certain areas of the city. Adding an extra 5 floors onto a 10 floor building will add apartments and won't impact the overall skyline. Set backs also need to be taken advantage of. They don't need to be "patios" no one uses and they shouldn't be private terraces. They need to be community green spaces. Philadelphia has examples of some amazing high rise green spaces for the public. My favorite is a parking garage. The top is a park, complete with native trees.

    • @ramenmcminecraft190
      @ramenmcminecraft190 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I agree except what you're saying sounds almost like forceful urban renewal. We just need to make sure that the people who are relocated are not forced to, and they are given a good alternative place to live.@@Chaotic_Pixie

    • @neene7
      @neene7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Chaotic_Pixiei had written a whole paragraph and the video did something and everything was erases... short thing. NYC has a whole shit load of empty apartments and houses... if they would stop renting apartments for 4k for a studio and 1 million for a house there wouldnt be a shortage.

    • @ClarkBK67
      @ClarkBK67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neen7 is right. There is so much empty and underutilized space in NYC. A ton. And I don’t mean green space.

    • @neene7
      @neene7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@scottwooledge6387 if you drive around brooklyn and Queens, you'll see abandoned houses and empty houses, and if you look up at the "new" apartment buildings, they are empty because people can't afford the rent.... put actual affordable limits on how much people can rent stuff for... it bet you see the rental market turn into houses being sold

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  • @Bureaucromancer
    @Bureaucromancer ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Has there been any real tidal work done on this? At a glance I’m thinking there’s a good chance this would funnel storm surges up the East River…

    • @zelenicaljubljanica5410
      @zelenicaljubljanica5410 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, no one else has considered this. Fortunately you thought of it 30 seconds into the video. What will we do without people like you?

    • @domtweed7323
      @domtweed7323 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or the end of the newly reclaimed land could form part of a Dyke + storm barrier system across the bay. At some point Manhattan will have a massive flood, the local government will panic and they'll throw up a massive storm defense system.

    • @damnimloomin
      @damnimloomin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@domtweed7323they did have a massive flood hurricane sandy it destroyed brand new infrastructure and they still have not even attempted to address some of the damage still today lol so im going to have to disagree the entirety of lower manhattan could be under water and they would not be able to get anything done lol

    • @domtweed7323
      @domtweed7323 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@damnimloomin The solution to that would be to just import an engineering team who knows how to build flood defenses, for example from the dutch or Japanese (though I suspect both Bangladesh and Nigeria will rapidly be developing similar expertise soon).
      It'll cost a shit ton of money to import all the expertise and specialist equipment, but if they seriously believe Wall Street is threatened then I have no doubt it'll get done.

    • @larrygrimaldi1400
      @larrygrimaldi1400 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably true, tides go all the way up the Hudson to what used to be called the Tappan Zee Bridge (Now Cuomo) that's almost up to West Point.

  • @DJXcalibur
    @DJXcalibur ปีที่แล้ว +9

    With all the trouble they went through to refocus attention back to the area near the WTC, I seriously doubt the state would allow any of this to happen. Definitely not any time soon! They want to recoup their funds used on that project first. I can see these proposals actually gaining steam in the next 20-50 years maybe. Lastly, there is NO housing shortage! There are building owners that are holding their properties empty for some sort of tax rebate/write off. There are also other buildings that only provide a small amount of affordable living spaces because the rest are luxury apartments. Buildings that do this only do so for the city and state subsidies they will qualify for upon completion. Things like this create a false sense of a shortage. Basically creating their own demand by withholding the supply.

  • @DEEYANASE
    @DEEYANASE ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is the new land necessary? There are still enough room to develop in the Bronx and Queens.

  • @billpet4602
    @billpet4602 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If sea level rise predictions are correct, this proposal is dangerous

    • @MrNiceGuy500
      @MrNiceGuy500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the same thoughts

    • @jypsridic
      @jypsridic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      obviously they aren't correct

    • @elzinga87
      @elzinga87 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course not. The Dutch are reclaiming land already for decades to protect themselves against rising sea levels. around 25% of the Netherlands lays below sea level. Also Japan is reclaiming land for the same purpose. If you want to learn more about this, you can read:
      fig.net/resources/proceedings/fig_proceedings/fig2021/papers/ts04.1/TS04.1_okada_10992.pdf

  • @marcneef795
    @marcneef795 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am not sure, if you portrayed the risks correctly. Rerouting so much water and adding so much land could drastically change the micro clima and cause other problems, not only for wildlife, but also for humans. Have the architects considered that?

  • @a.williams1945
    @a.williams1945 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rent control laws and restrictions have limited housing growth in New York. Simply adding more land isn't going to domuch to solve the affordability problem that exists in NYC. The laws would need to change or be repealed.

    • @stewartayvaliotis4848
      @stewartayvaliotis4848 ปีที่แล้ว

      Finally a voice of sanity, start by repealing the vacancy and stabiization laws of Facci Bruta Cuomo and big bird Deblasio.

  • @scottcotton6237
    @scottcotton6237 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But they tell us the sea level is rising. Why would anyone do this if that were true?

  • @stacyfrederick9183
    @stacyfrederick9183 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My concern is that how geologically stable would this area be? Would it be another disaster like the Mission District in San Francisco?

    • @singletstud
      @singletstud ปีที่แล้ว

      You might mean the Marina District - built on fill that caused major damage to the buildings on it in the Loma Prieta quake.

    • @neene7
      @neene7 ปีที่แล้ว

      there are alot pf areas in nyc built like that. think 5 towns and far rockaway

    • @LaurenGlenn
      @LaurenGlenn ปีที่แล้ว

      NY isn't near a major fault line like San Francisco is. If an earthquake hits on the east coast, it travels a lot further but is very tame in comparison. We had an earthquake hit a hundred or so miles away and we felt it up in central NJ.... but it was more of a minor shimmy.. and I've lived here for decades.

  • @jasonstroup4123
    @jasonstroup4123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From a feasabilty standpoint, it would be a question of if the Cambrian Manhatten Formation is at a suitable depth for foundations.
    Its exposed to the surface in Central Park and provides the foundation for the sky scrapers there, but quickly reaches greater depth once in the river.
    It extends down to portions of Staten Island, but id more than 100 meters down at that point.
    You may not need much fill to get the land area, but if the bedrock is 50m down you wont be able to build much.

  • @ericcarabetta1161
    @ericcarabetta1161 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It takes NY 10 years to repair a one mile stretch of roadway. If this land extension ever go approved, it wouldn’t be finished until the year 2100.

  • @jimmstr9126
    @jimmstr9126 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great idea, the mayor and governor will have migrants settle there before groundworks complete

  • @AngelGonzalez-yb6gu
    @AngelGonzalez-yb6gu ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I wonder how the people in New Mannahatta would feel knowing that place was built to protect the rest of NYC from super storms and hurricanes. It must be a beautiful feeling to know you'll be the one taking the bullet for the team 😂😂😂

  • @CArchivist
    @CArchivist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where would the displaced water go? Some where else would have to rise or be dredged out to compensate. And it’s not as if we don’t already have seas rising already.

  • @tomo9126
    @tomo9126 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Narrowing of The Hudson River (Actually it's the North River.) Has increased the velocity of the water and increased the scour. This has exposed the tops of the Lincoln Tunnel and Railroad Tunnels. This is not good at all. Further narrowing will only do more damage.
    It would be better to extend some subway lines directly into NJ. The 7 line to Secaucus and the A and/or an extension from the 1 to Hackensack.

  • @richard09able
    @richard09able ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why is planning always only done for Manhattan when there are 5 burroughs in New York? Good idea but how about climate change planning for other burroughs also.

  • @steveg4082
    @steveg4082 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Here’s a suggestion: tax unproductive landlords (empty lots, parking lots, needlessly short buildings, buildings with needlessly spacious apartments. You want space? Space is the ultimate luxury here)

    • @DwynNWynns
      @DwynNWynns 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes let do that because the last 40 years of liberal socials programs haven't destroy the city already. All these problem can be solve by outlawing the democrats and any socialist parties.

  • @benel3108
    @benel3108 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Better build more connections to New Jersey and expand there! There's plenty of useful and cheaper space.

  • @TheSavageCabb
    @TheSavageCabb ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Isnt nyc sinking

    • @nikohigh2001
      @nikohigh2001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Right

    • @JayTheGreat_Gaming
      @JayTheGreat_Gaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I forgot how far above sea level New York is, but if all the ice melts from the places with ice sheets (ie Greenland, Antarctica, etc.), that’ll sink all of New York, plus every coastal city.

    • @PatrickGlynn-e5g
      @PatrickGlynn-e5g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yes it is, like whats the point

    • @dreamz_here
      @dreamz_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Barely

    • @USA_Shark
      @USA_Shark 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@malibupromqueeni invite you to return to this comment in 2050. NYC is not sinking anytime soon..

  • @DrewbieSchaefer
    @DrewbieSchaefer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I lived 12 years in a Swiss village on the lake, very close to our town beach (Lac Léman/Geneva)
    ❤🇨🇭🇨🇭 my ground floor apartment was 500 years old 🎉 and the point was reclaimed by dropping quarrystone waste... so steep was our "peninsula" from that reclamation, it was the preferred beach ⛱️ for scuba diving for the "Swiss Bank jet set" who practiced before jetting to Ibiza...

  • @rhino6634
    @rhino6634 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not to mention there is plenty of space in Brooklyn and queens for development. Most of the buildings are low rise. A major zoning change to allow high rises in areas of higher elevation makes a lot more sense.

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should build it to house migrants. And call it Sanctuary City

  • @SuperAnimeking100
    @SuperAnimeking100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So will Governors island become a Central Park for the new land?

  • @jonathaneby1440
    @jonathaneby1440 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Putting tons and tons of rich people in new housing stock would alleviate pressure on existing real estate. Brownstone apartments in Brooklyn are being converted into single family homes by rich people because there isn’t new housing stock.
    We need to build fancy new housing stock for rich people as well as subsidized units. Otherwise rich people will buy out existing housing stock as long as there’s a housing shortage.

  • @jer1776
    @jer1776 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As someone who lives in Connecticut, I'd love for this to happen so New Yorkers stop moving into my state and driving up housing costs.

    • @michaelbenton2518
      @michaelbenton2518 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think it is just people moving in making it expensive. And sounds like you already live there ,if you rent I understand your statement but if you own sell and move somewhere else ,take the money and run .But I feel companies buy up housing and it isnthe reason rents are so high as it is a way of providing pension funds for employee or companies profiting.

    • @lanxy2398
      @lanxy2398 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those New Yorkers are a huge tax base in Connecticut and south western ct might as well be absorbed into New York state

    • @corilia9529
      @corilia9529 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heh bow much was the average house umin Connecticut before the invasion of new yorkers? I daresay it wasnt all that cheap befote they all moved there. The whole tri state area is average about 400 to 500 k for what people think is a decent house and then there's property taxes, while they may be cheaper than nyc or long island, many young people still cant afford it.

    • @jer1776
      @jer1776 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@corilia9529 There were some decent homes below 200k for sale before 2020, now thats only run down crack houses in Hartford or Bridgeport. Even decent condos start at 200k now.

  • @1NexusOne
    @1NexusOne ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It is an interesting project, but I am afraid that it will ruin the view of the lower Manhattan.

    • @curious5887
      @curious5887 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      True

    • @jeffreyrogers8151
      @jeffreyrogers8151 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay, I'll put a word in. Consider it done gentlemen.

    • @ellaluna5514
      @ellaluna5514 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Worried about the view! 😂😂😂

  • @donaldking5791
    @donaldking5791 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a dumb idea. The new land would be gobbled up by developers while tax payers would foot the bill. Many apartments in the city are being converted back to family style units to avoid rent control and keep rents up, Plus you are seeing a lot of office and commercial space open. To further make a mess is the new traffic congestion tax. It is unaffordable to live in this city.

  • @micesserono2966
    @micesserono2966 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The sea level is rising, so let's extend the city on the sea, the 50m of horizontal wetland will certainly keep the sea out! Sounds clever.
    Its unfortunate that there isn't land anywhere else otherwise a higher ground could be use instead of building on the sea...

  • @eric2500
    @eric2500 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unused commercial buildings could be changed to residential use if the fire protections were upgraded.
    Gardens, shrubs and small trees could be planted every ten floors or so.

    • @larrygrimaldi1400
      @larrygrimaldi1400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The cost of putting all the bathrooms and kitchens onto old office floors would make it so expensive they could only rent for luxury prices.

  • @nova.105
    @nova.105 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Providing housing for incomes of 125k-275k & calling it affordable housing ...

    • @slickvik4508
      @slickvik4508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's middle class in NYC

  • @armchairobserver4747
    @armchairobserver4747 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's all about money and zero about housing homeless

  • @NightRidah777
    @NightRidah777 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can barely build a 2 mile subway extension in how many years but they gonna extend one of the most densely packed islands lmao 😂😂😂

  • @jimjimgl3
    @jimjimgl3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, the title of your video is wrong. It isn't a proposal brought forward by NYC. It was a conceptual plan by a professor from a college in NJ. Not once did you tackle the subject of how NYC's government responded to Jason Barr's idea.

  • @sabairamoglou6169
    @sabairamoglou6169 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its a great idea.
    This area should be called "NEW VENICE"
    Super touristic attraction, if the buildings are designed for this.
    Secured investments & financing

  • @jst4572
    @jst4572 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think they’d extend at least another north south subway line south with the 1.
    They’d also have to probably reroute the SI Ferry to Brooklyn during construction and eventually plan to build a subway connection from St George terminal to Brooklyn.

  • @boldvankaalen3896
    @boldvankaalen3896 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you want it to be built properly, let the Dutch do it.

  • @Jordanthecool7
    @Jordanthecool7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I don’t see this being feasible , but it would be insanely cool if it actually was done

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Have you seen what China has done. Anything is possible

  • @maestro-zq8gu
    @maestro-zq8gu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Storm surges fine but how does adding more land at the same level protect against sea level rise? Just seems like more vulnerable land to me.

  • @Jason-rn4jk
    @Jason-rn4jk ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think all coastlines should be expanded all the way to Europe and Asia. Why not?

    • @malcolm4458
      @malcolm4458 ปีที่แล้ว

    • @ellaluna5514
      @ellaluna5514 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent point!

    • @Grenadier311
      @Grenadier311 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because the oceans are necessary for the earth to function properly.

    • @samuelross9884
      @samuelross9884 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're kidding, right?

    • @LaurenGlenn
      @LaurenGlenn ปีที่แล้ว

      It would make traveling by car to Europe easier.

  • @ConswaMcGaga
    @ConswaMcGaga ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i don’t understand this. they could build two direct express lines from staten island to lower manhattan and midtown, and change zoning laws to allow high-rises throughout most of the borough. after that i’m sure there’d be a speculative development frenzy and wow look at that thousands of new apartments.

  • @sdlausen1
    @sdlausen1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sea levels have literally risen millimeters in a century.

  • @JTEsterkamp
    @JTEsterkamp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What they should be doing is connecting SI to the rest of the subway system. A route that goes into Manhattan and one that goes into Brooklyn. Lot of undeveloped land out there and it's kinda ludicrus it's one of the boroughs but is cut off from the rest of the city transit wise

    • @LaurenGlenn
      @LaurenGlenn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah because all anyone wants to do is be connected to Staten Island.

  • @brooklyn560
    @brooklyn560 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As someone who doesn’t live in NYC and wont be directly affected by this at all. I think it’s cool and that they should do it

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its all about money. I wonder who will own the land at first

    • @brooklyn560
      @brooklyn560 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SpaceRanger187 probably the investors who put the money up

  • @alone54chao14
    @alone54chao14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's why they are starting collecting congestion fee, they don't want regular people drive the car to that area.

  • @luccacerminaro8003
    @luccacerminaro8003 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They should probably build more tall buildings

  • @rayflash3121
    @rayflash3121 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great idea I remember reading about how New York had the oldest buildings it a be cool to see new buildings and ideas

  • @Lagrandiosapizza
    @Lagrandiosapizza ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Imperial units, gosh. Futurology please adapt to outside the U.S. viewers

    • @480darkshadow
      @480darkshadow ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think the Americans use metric though, so would any of New York’s plans be in metric?

    • @aaron199x
      @aaron199x ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@480darkshadow I think the comment above has something to do with the VIDEO rather than the project, the creator couldve added unit conversions in the video for non-US viewers

  • @666bingo
    @666bingo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't that produce flooding?

  • @jeffs4483
    @jeffs4483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It should be turned into a park instead of more development.

  • @바보Queen
    @바보Queen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    247k people for that much land seems super low

  • @kolonelkingkraker
    @kolonelkingkraker ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Estimated completion: 200 years from now
    Price tag: $100 trillion 😂

    • @ejtattersall156
      @ejtattersall156 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MAYBE 200 hundred years. Anyone who has an argument, look up the 2nd Avenue line, the train that never gets completed

  • @xkevinzee
    @xkevinzee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the Dutch legacy of reclaiming land lives on in NYC

  • @ZazzyZain777
    @ZazzyZain777 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    By making a great wall like glass aquarium park with Multi layers surrounding Manahatta would increase beauty, recognize Marian life and protect future citizens from flooding as well

    • @jediknight73
      @jediknight73 ปีที่แล้ว

      Untill a car hits it or a rock

    • @ZazzyZain777
      @ZazzyZain777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jediknight73 only AI driven Vehicles would operate or subway line with moving walkway like in airport and the idea is similar to NEOM but in circular perimeter of mana hatta

  • @anonosaurus4517
    @anonosaurus4517 ปีที่แล้ว

    Civil Engineer here. Where would all of the fill come from? Harbor dredging? This would require significant sourcing of material with extensive cofferdams. If ground conditions for structural support called for soils with greater bearing capacity than the marine sediments could provide, huge importation of fill would be required, causing construction costs to get really, really, expensive.

    • @kevinnorris6558
      @kevinnorris6558 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're incorrect

    • @anonosaurus4517
      @anonosaurus4517 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinnorris6558 Yeah, how?

    • @riclnun
      @riclnun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kevinnorris6558 Troll!

  • @document6
    @document6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That new neighborhood will be just as exciting to live in as Hudson Yards (aka not exciting) or FiDi (aka not exciting) … we’d be better off FIXING THE SUBWAY so people could live in not-manhattan and actually get decent subway service .. I thought Manhattan was going to add a green beard of wetland to prevent storm surges, not landfill new neighborhood that no New Yorker will want to live in..?

  • @BrianLarin
    @BrianLarin ปีที่แล้ว

    Why add more?

  • @TheLiamster
    @TheLiamster ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This would easily cost a trillion dollars and wouldn’t be finished until 2100

    • @the0ne809
      @the0ne809 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats cute since the second ave train has under a project for almost 100 years now. But sure, this will happen by 2100. lol. also, noboby in NYC is pushing for this. This was some design by some random dude.

  • @DaveDav-so8kr
    @DaveDav-so8kr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why not just use the millions off aces in the US instead

  • @zusman84
    @zusman84 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this idea but I recently read that NYC is sinking due to too many Skyscrapers. I hope they can figure it out and prevent NYC from sinking. It would crazy to expand the city only for it to sink.

    • @tomindenver1331
      @tomindenver1331 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The only parts of NYC that are experiencing any subsidence are the parts built on the 1800s landfill. The main island is a rock (schist) that's not going anywhere. It's geology is what gave rise to the first skyscrapers.

    • @zusman84
      @zusman84 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomindenver1331 Hope you're right because I was reading that NYC is sinking at a rate of 1 to 4 millimeters per year. You can look it up.

  • @SeaUnicorn
    @SeaUnicorn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a massive flaw in the housing increase computation, people who work in Manhattan live in all 5 boroughs, CT and NJ. 15% of Manahattan housing is a drop in the ocean compared to overall housing needs of people who work on Manhattan.
    It is insane that so much money is spent on downtown Manhattan, while the rest of the boroughs and infrastructure across those is ignored...
    Oculus costed the city 2bil dollars. To you know, pave it with Italian marble. Does a subway station really need all that marble? Eso considering that it is all stained and dirty now. How many housing units can be built with that money?..

  • @jamesjohnston4160
    @jamesjohnston4160 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video, man.

  • @paradonym
    @paradonym ปีที่แล้ว +1

    178000*how many flats are in one skyscraper* 60 million per flat...

  • @ianmcnulty799
    @ianmcnulty799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmmm. Instead of extended Manhattan, why don't they just put a roof over Brooklyn and make it a double decker borough. Imagine how much cooler Bushwick would be if it had a second floor!

  • @smokey5995.1
    @smokey5995.1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm surprised that u didn't talk about people leaving NYC recently as 1 of the problems. While yes there is a housing shortage, people are also leaving due to increase rent. If lots of people are leaving the area, there's not really a demand to make more land for more housing. Possibly make it a tourist destination? NYC already is. It already has its gimmic, don't ruin it.

    • @domtweed7323
      @domtweed7323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People are leaving because they can't afford the rent. Build it, fill it with exclusively dense affordable housing, and it would immediately fill up with young people who'd put new life into the city

    • @6z0
      @6z0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@domtweed7323but we all know that wont happen… the prices would remain the exact same and the new housing would be likely be even more expensive

    • @bruhbutwhytho
      @bruhbutwhytho ปีที่แล้ว

      @@6z0you only think like that because nyc has failed to build enough housing for decades.

  • @spuds6423
    @spuds6423 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, just a mere 13,000 years ago, the beach was about 100 miles south east of the southern tip of Manhattan!!! Just search the "Great Flood of New York" by the Woods Hole Institute!!
    Ice Ages are Climate Change!!

  • @zunkman1
    @zunkman1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Never happen.

  • @josephshulman6666
    @josephshulman6666 ปีที่แล้ว

    So it will be possible to walk to an from the battery to liberty island and back ???

  • @akaviral5476
    @akaviral5476 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need the Dutch to help with this, full stop

  • @Beep_beep-pl7rd
    @Beep_beep-pl7rd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Plot twist: they rlly meant to say new Manhattan instead of manhatta

  • @PhoticsTV
    @PhoticsTV ปีที่แล้ว

    What would happen to the Staten Island Ferry? ⛴😄

  • @hobbyl0s
    @hobbyl0s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can‘t watch these videos why is there so much editing and cuts and sound effects? It‘s giving me a headache. The older videos on here where actually enjoyable

  • @KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain
    @KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fry from Futurama: nobody drove in New York there was too much traffic.

  • @MusicforMe123
    @MusicforMe123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this mean the relocation of the Statue of Liberty or will it be like a park in the middle of the city.

  • @ghmh
    @ghmh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can't multinationals office space buildings not be adapted to integrate housing.

  • @franksullivan1873
    @franksullivan1873 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It always amazes me that growth is the only answer and it is the sad reality that development doesn’t care about the changes they are willing to do to achieve it.They are quite willing to destroy the river channel system to extend an island where nobody can afford to live anymore.

  • @redninja1133
    @redninja1133 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can they not build downwards

  • @EXEON727
    @EXEON727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about New York upgrade its infrastructure first

    • @urmailman
      @urmailman ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope just illegal cultural infrastructure

  • @Clint945
    @Clint945 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not all about length guys.
    It's about how you *use* it.
    Or so I've heard...

  • @DTD110865
    @DTD110865 ปีที่แล้ว

    There goes the Staten Island Ferry, and the Whitehall Terminal.

  • @rogertessman7649
    @rogertessman7649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Think of how much of the funding would vanish into politician's pockets. The graft and corruption on a project of this scale would be huge !