just think, theres some poor kid out there who saved up for a temple or even a true sun god and didnt know how the sacrifices work and ended up losing the next round
I didnt use targeting until I knew what it did and I learned that maybe last year. I played btd5 for probably 5 years before seeing what that was used for
I didn't know targeting was a thing until a good player told me while in BTD5 coop that aiming my snipers on strong made them better lol thanks random dude
I would personally name this video as "The Only Time Sun Avatar Is Better Than True Sun God". I think it will catch the eye of new viewers better. But I like the idea of vanilla temples too!
ive known for a while, but back in BTD5 i was too lazy to pick out every tower type to sacrifice. now that tower types are specified in BTD6, im much more thoughtful (and getting vengeful in almost every extreme late-game run is pretty cool too)
Fighting for the late game pop master. E.g Round 70 has more pops than round 68 & 69, combined. Someone sacrifices all the towers by the entrance for a temple, they win... unless you sacrifice their temple. But then you can still lose to sniper spam (they hit the ballon first) sub spam (they have more firepower). Ultimately you want an uncontested temple, failing that an apache is what you'll want, but if you spend all your money on an apache, the opposite can place an uncontested temple, that might get dropped on your sniper nest or sub fleet, or what ever is raking in the pops. A super early temple might be used to demolish your economy, removing the ability to get a sun temple.
Some damage boosting towers like super brittle and cripple Moab make towers do more damage per projectile. If you have more projectiles, the damage output is significantly higher.
To go into a bit more detail: cripple MOAB and super brittle make the BAD take a flat amount of extra damage from every shot the sun avatar fires more projectiles, meaning it gains a lot more dps overall from the support debuffs the tsg deals 15 damage, and the cripple moab give about +12 damage per shot this means tsg gets about double dps compare that with the sun avatar which shoots 3 projectiles dealing 1 damage each (+12 from debuffs) this means the sun avatar gets a 12x dps increase. a massive difference
Totally you can get 11 damage (with c p, glue strike or storm and super brittle)Nah cripple moab only gives 5+ damage Also sun avatar has 3 projectiles each deal 1 damage so the damage of each projectile with c.p is 6 damage so if we do maths 6×3=18 damage per shot If with all debuffs it's 11 damage so each projectile deal 11 but there are 3 projectiles so 11×3=33 so yes it's ×11 the damage of sun avatar if all debuffs and with only cripple you get 6× (if main damage also counted) damage (Each projectile deal 1 damage +5 so yes it's 6 damage 6x3=18 and 18÷3=6)
This also happens in btd battles 1 I like to use a farm super monkey and ice strat in bananza and it’s good, maybe mid game u have to get viral frost and like a few robomonkeys if opponent is gonna rush Sometimes i get bomb tower on the extra meaning another good sacrifice and my temples are way better than my opponents meaning i win
I love the way Isab approaches these challenges. If he wasn’t a streamer, I bet he’d be a really brilliant mathematician or physicist or something. His mentality and approach reminds me of that
Here's the math for you technical nerds. Super Brittle adds 4 damage per projectile that hits the affected bloon. Cripple MOAB adds 6 damager per projectile as long as the bloon is affected by the Cripple effect (So just MOAB-class bloons really). True Sun God has one projectile that deals 15 damage per shot, plus with the addition of the other effects (Super Brittle, Cripple MOAB), 25 per shot, which will still wipe the floor with smaller bloons, but come on, you didn't spend $600k on a tower meant only for bloons when a 5-0-2 Ninja (Grandmaster) with a 4-0-2 Alchemist (Stronger Stimulant) can do the same job at obliterating the bloons but at a fraction of that cost. Sun Avatar deals 1 damage per shot, but shoots 3 beams at a time, all of the beams can do damage to a single target once. So effectively, the Sun Avatar deals 3 damage per wave by default. However, Cripple MOAB adds 6 damage per projectile, and Super Brittle adds 4 damage per projectile, so that adds it to come up to 11 damage per shot, or 33 damage per wave. Sun Avatar shoots as fast as a vanilla True Sun God as well. Just remember in CHIMPS games, you only get ~$179k the whole game, so do keep that in mind. I feel like NK needs to buff the base True Sun God to have the non-Magic variants keep the Sun Avatar beams, maybe even add 2 more beams to 5, and have them do 6 damage each. That way they aren't totally useless and can benefit greatly from towers that add damage per projectile (Alch buff, Cripple MOAB, Pat Fusty, Super Brittle, etc)
When my friend says let’s make a true sungod I’m the only one with the upgrade unlocked and I make a vengeful and their like dude that sucks I want a true sungod not that black ripoff I had to sit there and explain vengeful is way better than a true sungod
5 minutes ago im early love how you still play btd i love the game too an the guides you make and the videos are so fun to watch and really useful keep it up :}
Hehe, Isab: Why is Sun Avatar better than True Sun God (without sacs)? Well it's because Sun Avatar has 3 projectiles and A True Sun God has 1 projectile and 3 >1 sooo... BIG BRAIN.
I always knew the sun gods are trash because when I do actually have enough money to buy them I don’t because I’m too scared it’s gonna be worse. And I was right, it is worse
the trick is to count up how much you have in sacrifices, if you sacrifice more than 50k of each of the 4 tower categories it'll be at max power (which is FAR better than a sun avatar or most other towers)
Everyone knows neapolitan temples are the best temples.
🅱️
Apple
Original reply of the reply above me: "No"
Appl
Hi
Apple
This is why I prefer chocolate temples tbh
I prefer white sticky stuff
@@catgirlkiana you mean glue?
@@ngwingman7899 yes
Hey a touhou character is here surprised you like monkeys that kill bloons
I don't think they mean glue
So the Temple and the Sun God rely on sacrifices? Damn, no wonder they need to fight on the side with the best artillery.
I understood that reference
yup, the sun god fights on the side with the best artillery. agreed.
Amazing quote
-Churchill
@@BeDatAPickle do you want a medal for your deduction skills?
Imagine spending 600k upgrading a tower to level 5 and it does worse than the level 3.
Imagine imagining
Imagine not imagining that you couldn't imagine imagining.
Imagine imagining for a imagine on that imagine for that imagine
Imagine, Dragons.
@@melvint-p9500 ._.
just think, theres some poor kid out there who saved up for a temple or even a true sun god and didnt know how the sacrifices work and ended up losing the next round
Bring a chuckle to lips
This is why u use the internet to help
i feel offended
More like they forgot camo detection
@@lotnewlifewhy5190 noob
am I the only one who changed targeting to strong on all of my towers because I thought it made them strong? this was when I was young
I didnt use targeting until I knew what it did and I learned that maybe last year. I played btd5 for probably 5 years before seeing what that was used for
I changed all my powerful slow towers to strong and my weak fast towers to first
I didn't know targeting was a thing until a good player told me while in BTD5 coop that aiming my snipers on strong made them better lol thanks random dude
For the alchemist buff I thought strong ( tier 5 towers) would be prioritised
@@stuchy1018 there should be knowledge to choose a tower to prioritize alch buff imo
A vanilla temple is what people mean when they say they're interesting
@Thomas Johnston perfect description lol
@Thomas Johnston Vanilla tastes good, it's just nothing compared to other flavors.
@@duckytheduckster0 ok, but some vanilla hits hard tho.
Vanilla is better than chocolate tho.
@Thomas Johnston same i think chocolate ice cream is a little gross
I love how this whole time isab still has been saying "jungle of the druid"
Shhhhhh
Flavored trades
Buy and resell
Super Funky Man Club
@@autumnleaving Hey, my dad goes to one of those. What is that anyways?!
Vanilla temples are like when you used all your points on strength but not on the other skills making it useless
Many games would beg to differ
nah more like you put all your points in stamina you you are useless
its more like not putting any of your strength in anything.
When you play ark, and you get a giga with 2000 oxygen xD
Seriously... When the hell has anyone heard Isab crack a single laugh
His draw something video had a couple
They sounded sarcastic tho
that's sad :(
he’s like the dangerouslyfunny of btd6
I want to take him out and treat him right
Pinguitastic Fantastic skin problems?
I would personally name this video as "The Only Time Sun Avatar Is Better Than True Sun God". I think it will catch the eye of new viewers better. But I like the idea of vanilla temples too!
11:28 the comeback of regrow red balloons
U know even after playing btd for 7 years,it took me 2 years to realize you can sacrifice towers for benefits.
Strange young me.
ive known for a while, but back in BTD5 i was too lazy to pick out every tower type to sacrifice. now that tower types are specified in BTD6, im much more thoughtful (and getting vengeful in almost every extreme late-game run is pretty cool too)
@@balls5823 you only needed a sertain amount of towers in bt5, apprentice, ice, glue, tack, bomb.
Imagine a true God of the literal sun getting babied by it's child.
Its*
@@TurtleExplosive it's
@@derrickmoore7013 it's "its"
It's = it is
@@derrickmoore7013 its
its*
“And three is bigger than one”
alJibRu
i thought that there was actually gonna be a ice cream cone sun god
Bad video no ice cream?
@@CR1MSONACE Yes bad video, no ice-cream.
Temple normally: Cyberpunk on PC
Vanilla Temple: Cyberpunk on console
sun avatar : gta v
Exiting to the menu and reloading to before you have the temple: refunding the game
VTSG is Witcher 3 in that case
Wait, did he just math fortified BAD hp himself? I mean without calculator and help from someone. What a Chad.
I made the mistake of selling a bunch of tier 5 monkeys to get a maxed true sun god and ended up losing because of it.
HOW DO YOU USE A TABLET OR KEYBOARD WITH YOUR SMALL PINCHY PINCHERS YOU HERMIT CRAB
@@capertillar4634 WHAT ARE YOU DOING OUT OF YOUR CAGE JP GET BACK IN YOU NAUGHTY HAMSTER!1!1!1!!
bruh moment
@@capertillar4634 Stylus.
@@Gmasi-m9u oh no
No temple can be more powerful than the 0,0,0 dart monkey
Me this whole video: But why. Why would anyone do that?
you would expect a temple to be better than an avatar even without sacrificing anything, considering the temple is 1 tier above the avatar
Fighting for the late game pop master.
E.g
Round 70 has more pops than round 68 & 69, combined.
Someone sacrifices all the towers by the entrance for a temple, they win... unless you sacrifice their temple.
But then you can still lose to sniper spam (they hit the ballon first) sub spam (they have more firepower).
Ultimately you want an uncontested temple, failing that an apache is what you'll want, but if you spend all your money on an apache, the opposite can place an uncontested temple, that might get dropped on your sniper nest or sub fleet, or what ever is raking in the pops. A super early temple might be used to demolish your economy, removing the ability to get a sun temple.
Some damage boosting towers like super brittle and cripple Moab make towers do more damage per projectile. If you have more projectiles, the damage output is significantly higher.
Me: You just need to leak the kast balloon to win.
Isab: Did you just say regro farm🤩?
Beating 30 temples on megaboost with 8 powered up temples with rockets and ice in BTD Battles was always fun.
I like how the temple gets the carpet when you get extra range
For the elim chellange, you could've used bomb blitz for the ending :)
To go into a bit more detail:
cripple MOAB and super brittle make the BAD take a flat amount of extra damage from every shot
the sun avatar fires more projectiles,
meaning it gains a lot more dps overall from the support debuffs
the tsg deals 15 damage, and the cripple moab give about +12 damage per shot
this means tsg gets about double dps
compare that with the sun avatar which shoots 3 projectiles dealing 1 damage each (+12 from debuffs)
this means the sun avatar gets a 12x dps increase. a massive difference
Totally you can get 11 damage (with c p, glue strike or storm and super brittle)Nah cripple moab only gives 5+ damage
Also sun avatar has 3 projectiles each deal 1 damage so the damage of each projectile with c.p is 6 damage so if we do maths 6×3=18 damage per shot
If with all debuffs it's 11 damage so each projectile deal 11 but there are 3 projectiles so 11×3=33 so yes it's ×11 the damage of sun avatar if all debuffs and with only cripple you get 6× (if main damage also counted) damage
(Each projectile deal 1 damage +5 so yes it's 6 damage 6x3=18 and 18÷3=6)
Why do i genuinely enjoy ISAB binge watching
This also happens in btd battles 1
I like to use a farm super monkey and ice strat in bananza and it’s good, maybe mid game u have to get viral frost and like a few robomonkeys if opponent is gonna rush
Sometimes i get bomb tower on the extra meaning another good sacrifice and my temples are way better than my opponents meaning i win
Temples without sacrifices are like cupcakes without frosting.
I love the way Isab approaches these challenges. If he wasn’t a streamer, I bet he’d be a really brilliant mathematician or physicist or something. His mentality and approach reminds me of that
Idk if you have ever done math proofs but some of them are completly insane and making those challenges here look like they are made for 3 year olds.
@@valraukardso7117 yup, I have. Degree in physics. I’m not saying it would happen overnight
Man, how something for 504k can be so bad?
That's one of the problems honestly of the T4 and up top path insta super monkey, its funny how its actually a bad insta xD
Your thumbnails are so good ngl
Here's the math for you technical nerds. Super Brittle adds 4 damage per projectile that hits the affected bloon. Cripple MOAB adds 6 damager per projectile as long as the bloon is affected by the Cripple effect (So just MOAB-class bloons really). True Sun God has one projectile that deals 15 damage per shot, plus with the addition of the other effects (Super Brittle, Cripple MOAB), 25 per shot, which will still wipe the floor with smaller bloons, but come on, you didn't spend $600k on a tower meant only for bloons when a 5-0-2 Ninja (Grandmaster) with a 4-0-2 Alchemist (Stronger Stimulant) can do the same job at obliterating the bloons but at a fraction of that cost. Sun Avatar deals 1 damage per shot, but shoots 3 beams at a time, all of the beams can do damage to a single target once. So effectively, the Sun Avatar deals 3 damage per wave by default. However, Cripple MOAB adds 6 damage per projectile, and Super Brittle adds 4 damage per projectile, so that adds it to come up to 11 damage per shot, or 33 damage per wave. Sun Avatar shoots as fast as a vanilla True Sun God as well. Just remember in CHIMPS games, you only get ~$179k the whole game, so do keep that in mind.
I feel like NK needs to buff the base True Sun God to have the non-Magic variants keep the Sun Avatar beams, maybe even add 2 more beams to 5, and have them do 6 damage each. That way they aren't totally useless and can benefit greatly from towers that add damage per projectile (Alch buff, Cripple MOAB, Pat Fusty, Super Brittle, etc)
Cripple add 5* not 6
I remember doing quite decent beyond Round 100 and decided to do the True Sun God and I Immediately lost the next round.
seriously who just orders a vanilla cup of icecream at the parlor. We atleast get that stuff in a cone with some sprinkles
@Creatotron just making a general statement
When my friend says let’s make a true sungod I’m the only one with the upgrade unlocked and I make a vengeful and their like dude that sucks I want a true sungod not that black ripoff
I had to sit there and explain vengeful is way better than a true sungod
I also don't like the taste of plain temples to bland... and gold
I thought this was years old bc I was just watching the 1 tower only series. I swear I've seen this before
this is what premium things are in their truest: not worth the money
I did this challenge just to spite the creator an scarified to my temple.
Can you do 2 towers chimps with Bloon solver and Moab eliminater
The thumbnail had me choking
Vengeful sun god is the best scoop of ice cream.
Lacks that salted caramel that maked everything tasted
Ray of Doom are just Kaioken Kamehameha.
*Change My Mind*
6:48
ISAB clicking intensive.
When watching this I was thinking legend of the night night work for the first one
Isab:My micro is to slow
Also isab: gets perfect time in out of control race.
yup
@@btd6benjamina467 how did you find my comment arbel
Unupgraded temple with super brittle is vanilla with sprinkles
Who knows that sun avatar is better than 0-0-0-0 temple...
+1 knowledge point
0-0-0-0? What is this BTD7?
@@JacobKinsley its not upgrades, its tower types sacrificed to the temple
You didnt fire the first elim with favored trades lmao
This is why you buy chocolate
Ah yes the best type of temple
bloons go brr a _little_ less than normal with vanilla sun god. Maybe use banana split?
3 is bigger than 1... But steel is heavier than feathers
11:56 Why did you write that when you just delete?
Mmm now ice cream sounds reallyyyy good!
True Sun God: Who are you
Vengeful Temple i am you but 20X stronger
And that’s why we have a dark temples
while watching your video I came across an add that showed everything has malestorm video footage
Everyone knows ISAB has the best ideas and they're all original
why did he not just let the other cerams go after he killed 1?
That moment when 0-0-0 dart monkey does more damage than a temple
I watched this when it was uploaded 3 mins ago i diint look at the thumbnail and its butiful
5 minutes ago im early love how you still play btd i love the game too an the guides you make and the videos are so fun to watch and really useful keep it up :}
How does Isab find these rules? Like no sacrificing allowed?
The black temples (vengeful) are the best I guess....
It Needs Sacs to transform to in to black
What if I like strawberry temples?
I sometimes think sun avatars are better than plain temples and even sacrificed are not that great t4 for the cost
Hehe, Isab: Why is Sun Avatar better than True Sun God (without sacs)? Well it's because Sun Avatar has 3 projectiles and A True Sun God has 1 projectile and 3 >1 sooo... BIG BRAIN.
Tsg has more damage and range
Touché
@@acake6654 I know it was joke
I love these challenge videos
Time to do some late game runs with SAvatar.
Does anyone agree the range for a True Sun God is too little? in btd 5 it had full map coverage
7:21
Calling emergency services
What about chocolate temples?
10:02 Bomb blitz?
But why was your super glue getting pops? You didn't get corrosive glue.
Vanilla temple is really bad -- can't even take out a single 177% fortified BAD smh
Avatar✍️better✍️than✍️sun✍️god✍️
Sun Avatar pairs better with super brittle
I always knew the sun gods are trash because when I do actually have enough money to buy them I don’t because I’m too scared it’s gonna be worse. And I was right, it is worse
the trick is to count up how much you have in sacrifices, if you sacrifice more than 50k of each of the 4 tower categories it'll be at max power (which is FAR better than a sun avatar or most other towers)
vanilla temple: 0 dmg
temple with isab planes: *infinite damage*
true temple with more isab planes: *you still gonna lose at some point*
okay but did we really need an entire video proving something we already know? :p
4:28 wait I'm not sure if he is lying or not
Can u try etiene and anti bloon
I was born as a mixed temple…
isab how is your eczema
If you max out a tower does it damage it? make it worse?
I love the thumbnail
Flying fortress is best tower
The question is:why would anyone do that?
Does vanilla ice cream taste delicious while it's cold?
the vanilla temples need fucking buffs
"Brahmument"
Math is the answer to everything lol
4:11 you did your math wrong
Well I only use vanilla temple so that’s why I’m bad? Honestly I can’t even get past round 100 because my phone lags out
The sacrifices are the main part of every temple, tell me about it!
Oh, if you don't have sacrifices in your temple you don't have a temple.