Greetings Pastor Imli, Hope you and your family are doing really well. I was looking for contents relating this topic and seems u are the only Naga to have covered this topic on this platform. I am really glad u did and keep those videos rolling, it's awesome. May the good Lord bless u more. I am seeing this video like after two years after you have posted it so I don't know if u will even see it😂...But anyway, here's my thoughts and question. I am 30 now, with a job, and I am currently considering marriage. I have never dated or talked to any girl in my entire life…but just a year ago, I really fell in love with a female friend of mine, and sadly she happened to be the title as me. We have been really good and close friends for more than 10 years now and never did I even think about developing feelings for her. But after we started going to work together, do majority of things together, we got even more close and just automically developed feelings for one another. We were, and even now we are totally aware about the traditional norms and rules regarding marriage between the same titles. But both of us loved each other so much that we decided to date secretly; we've totally kept our relationship totally pure and holy just like the Bible tells us what we should do. But even though we love each other so much, we totally know that it's culturally and traditionally wrong so we decided to break up. Ofc, we weren't planning to break the traditional rules and elope or something like that too. We both totally knew that we can't be together so we are separated now, even if we love each other so much. And I am finding it really hard to move on right now. And right now I am constantly thinking about the situation and here are some of my thoughts and questions on it... SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS: I am from a science background, so I totally know the consequences of marriage between close relatives; that it would lead to abnormalities and various physical, as well as mental defects within the child. On deep study, even scientifically, it is not advisable to marry a 1st or 2nd cousins due to the birth defects it may cause due to the genetic similarities between the parents. But going on from 3rd cousins (i.e even if their great-great grandparents are the same) it's scientifically backed and ok to get married. For example, In my case, I am also from Ao tribe, both of us share the same title but, if we look at it, scientifically, I am mentioning again, scientifically….it will be totally ok to get married, because although we share the same lineage(forefathers) we are are like 7th, 8th, 9th or whatever cousins i.e something like only our great -great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather is same, which is totally far away, so scientifically it will be totally ok to marry someone of the same title as long as we aren't 1st or 2nd cousins. BIBLICALLY: In the Bible, book of Leviticus and Deuteronomy says a lot about whom one shouldn't marry, like, in Leviticus chapter 18: 7-18 talks about prohibited marriage between close relatives and kins; example, prohibited marriage between, mother, stepchildren, aunt, sister, half sister, daughter-in-law, sister-in-law, grand daughter, step grand-daughter etc…but it's doesn't talk about prohibition of marriage between cousins or same clans + we also see instances in the Bible where they were married to relatives or cousins, like, Abraham, Jacob etc etc. Ofc it's not talked about in the New Testament but in the Old Testament it is clearly mentioned and rather it was advised for the Israelites to marry the same clan. So… what I want to conclude from all this is that, ofc all the laws mentioned in the Bible about marriage, were for the people of Israelites and people may say that it doesn't apply for us, but are we all now Christians and follow the laws of God? If it's scientifically backed that marriage beyond 3rd cousin is ok, and Biblically it does point about prohibited marriage between close relatives, kins, non-believers and all but allows the rest of marriages…In my condition, even though we the same title, we are linked but it's several generations apart, we aren't closely related. I am not saying we should change our cultural or traditional laws right now, because even if we did right now, just imagine, the marriage system will totally change here…nor am I saying that it's ok to be married to the same title if we are not very closely related, but a thing to ponder upon is that are we not just following a traditional taboo? Ofc close relatives marriage is biblically prohibited but Is it even Biblically backed for the same clan of distant forefathers to not get married?
Hello Pastor, my point of view is tat i guess same clan marriage is not a sin as long as we are not so close (*just my point of view) cause this tradition and culture was adopted even before our fore father knew about Christianity . I just want to mention like should we Ao's or nagas in general just correct this whole same clan system. Got so much to say. But i hope you will bring up a video or you can speak to the community abt this concern topic as you are also one of the senior and you have right to speak about it cause we are still minor as compare to you. Thank you❤🫂 God Bless🙌
I'm really shocked 😲 why people watching and listening.. after all these people are disliking ur wonderful videos.. Aiyyaa.. Anti-christ 🙄 Halleluyah... Amen 🙏
Thank you so much for the info. I fall in love with same clan and we both were holding relationships for 5 years and now though we are no more but I still love her cause I dont want to go against with citizens law and also with God's words. So I just want tell you guys that please don't fall in love with same clan or title because its really and very difficult to break up.. Thank you God bless you all.
The Bible doesn't say anything regarding same title marriage or cousin marriage but according to scientist, marriage shouldn't be between cousins up to the 3 generation. Because it's unhealthy and the children born of such marriage usually have a short life span. So It doesn't matter whether you're related through either of the parents. Since we are Christian and therefore we should refer to the Bible and not try to make or follow unnecessary hard and fast rule. My apologyl if I have hurt any people through my words.
This is so much needed for today's youngsters. Thank you pastor for uploading such knowledgeable video I'm sure all the family members of this channel whoever has watched this video will be blessed. God bless you pastor 🙏
Sir @Imli_P_Lemtur with all due respect, I appreciate your effort in striving to answer the queries of the curious youths in this topic. I believe you as a senior, older Naga citizen, or perhaps a theologian or a man ministering the gospel have been just and unbiased in your answers and have tried your best to say which might be the fairer way out. However since this is a 'sensitive' topic as you have said yourself I believe we should be rational, practical as well as bipolar if needed to understand both the sides. Being of the same clan doesn't always necessarily mean that two individuals are related and specially if the two belong to different villages the changes get too slim. And when it gets to marriage, yes in our culture it is considered a taboo, which was followed by our ancestors to prevent incest and perhaps for other reasons also and has been observed for hundreds or if not thousands of years. However speaking in today's context after centuries have passed there will be variations in the blood or biological base, not everything of the flesh will be as same with everyone and when it comes to clan intermarriage people often think of cousin marriage which is not the case most of the time. It will have more to do with a couple belonging to two different ranges or villages, even far off villages but under the same clan name. In such cases the two individuals being relatives or even far related is very slim or none at all. Yes some can say in the root we are all the same but isn't it how every society or community sprouted one or more number of nuclear familes that sprouted and multiplied into an entire clan, tribe, race and civilization ? And the lineages and their biological traces change and undergo variations with time. Almost all over the world same clan, title or surname marriage or endogamy isn't a problem, specially if they aren't closely related. And science has proven it is safe as long as there is a certain level of distance mostly around the 3rd level of kingship or upto certain generational gaps. And many a times when one wishes to marry another of the same clan they aren't always cousins. Not everyone prefer cousin marriages. And those countries that do not allow such form of marriages are changing their outlooks and accepting changes and marriage laws are ammended even in stern conservative societies like China, South Korea and India. They choose rational thinking and scientific reasoning over some ancient restrictive tradition. And when it comes to religion,one might ask 'Aren't these traditional customs and traditions what we take pride in as Nagas despite them being irrational and whatever ?'. Well then every society had it's own set of numerous customers, traditions and practices since the beginning of time some were later considered as social evils, malpractices or just not fit or reasonable enough in a progressing society and were later discontinued or shunned. Change, development and understanding comes with time and it is wether if we accept these changes and makr a better system. Society always had flaws, issues, customs and traditions and some were left behind in the past because we eventually knew what would be a better way and sometimes negotiations and ammendments are made in a reasonable scale. Examples are how we as a society started accepting that private jobs and enterprises are equal to government jobs and lower than none, how female equality became a priority, how the LGBTQ community were given equal rights and privileges as any other people and how we started accepting woman education, stood against child labour, child marriage and how we accepted all religions as the same despite our spiritual diversity. I take these examples not to prove that my concept right but to give light on instances on where society and people overcame certain practices and customs for the greater good. And in the Biblical context there is literally no verse that says that clan intermarriage is a sin, in fact the book of Moses and the book of Liviticus have mentioned rules and regulations in marriage which stands against marriage and sexual relations between siblings, parents and children and close relatives in fact there is also a verse that says a young girl should marry a man from her father's clan. However this doesn't mean everyone should practice it or it doesn't mean no one should. But in no way it is seen as a sin in both the old and new testament and hence many Christian countries and even the Jews accept clan endogamy to this day. And the excommunication from the church that follows with a same clan marriage is also not right. When it is not seen as a sin in the Bible, how can we add our cultural practices and ideas into the church ? It has nothing to do with the church or the Christian rules of marriage as long as it is not a blood related communion. We should accept some changes or have things understood between people so that our society progresses. I hope changes happen for good. God bless Nagaland.
This was actually to happen me once.after i knew she was the same clan😭😨 to me, i denied to date. Really sorry dear, but i did it good for both of us 🙏
Marriage within the same clan is a taboo from our forefathers even before they were converted to christians, n it remains to this day. But in my opinion about adoption, if the adopted child is not the same as your's, it's exceptional, coz the adopted child is not blood related, he or she takes your title through legal terms.
I'm not trying to offend anyone out here and I really don't have much knowledge/ideas about the Bible so It's just my curiosity to know how we were/are being populated eventually if God created only Adam and Eve..!! Also it is said that when flood washed away the whole world, only Noah's family survived so how comes the present population had increased!
Imli,very informative 👍👍👍👍both me and my starringba watched till the end. And I keep sharing and sharing........... sharing your video link nu😊😊😊😊😄😄😄😄And God bless your ministry 🤗🤗🤗🤗
Hi, Mr.Lemtur, Thank you so much for your effort. As you've said this is hyper sensitive issue in today's society,especially in Ao community, however the subject is very pertinent for all. Your approach in a refined way is a brilliant idea. This will definitely work. (Lanur tashitemeter angudang, tesùngzùk ka angur). You are a good cultured gentleman. God bless
In the context of Ao Naga there are two groups: 1. Jungli Group ( Jamir, Imsong Pongen and Longkumer) but there are many sub clans formed from these three clans. Jamir can marry imsong and longkumtsur but can't marry jamir and its sub clans, Imsongpongsen can marry Jamir and longkumer but can't marry Imsongpongen and its sub clans, Longkumer can marry Jamir and Imsong pongen but can't marry longkumer and its sub clans. 2. Mongsen Group ( Imchen, Longchar and Walling) also many sub clans formed out of this mongsen three clans. Imchen can marry Longchar and its sub clans but can't marry Imchen, Longchar can marry Imchen and its sub clans but can't marry Longchar. Walling can marry Imchen and Longchar and its sub clans but can't marry Walling. Also Jungli groups can marry Mongsen groups. I'm a Jungli Aier a sub clan of Imsong Pongen so I can't marry Imsong pongen but can marry Jamir, Longkumer and Mongsen Group clans. I can marry Mongsen Aier a sub clan under Imchen clan. I can't marry Imchen clans but only from Mangmetong village. The reason, our forefathers adopted one imchen guy from Mangmetong village as their own son. From that time technically imchen clans from Mangmetong village. became our brothers and sisters. But i can marry Imchen clans from other villages. Marriage of same clans means marrying same blood and the result leads to deformation. Some children are born deformed cause of same clan marriage. Scientifically it can be explained. I thank God because he gave wisdom to our ancestors while establishing customary laws, practices and administrative systems. Even administrative system (Putu menden) are executed in a very precise way. In a village the leaders (Tatar) are selected from the representatives. Each representatives consist of each clans in the village so no clans are left out. Its like a purest form of democracy. Thankyou so much Pastor for this informative video about our naga practice. Hope many will learn about our rich and beautiful naga culture and its heritage. God bless 🙏
@@ImliPLemtur kanga penlar a Pastorba. Im just sharing what I've learned from my Opa, Oja, Opu, Otsu, Oko, Onu and Yimertem 😊. I'm still learning our traditions and cultures. God bless 🙏
Thank you very much sir. I always feel encouraged seeing your comment. You are one of the members who stood by me from the beginning of my journey. good night
Pastor, thank you very for your valuable knowledge that through you are motivating the youngsters of Naga. Based on your last question that we should ponder about the marriage between the adpoted son with father's title but not without blood relation is contradictory. But, every parents should know the cultural, traditional & customs of ancestral as well as the teachings of the Bible for better future happy marriage life
The CHILD is Jamir by blood and LEMTUR by adoption. So he/she cannot marry to his/her OWN BLOOD but have to opt for other clan other than Lemtur and Jamir.
Which means he/she now have a very narrow option, only Pongen clan (apart from options of having other tribes), because Lemtur belongs to Longkumer clan. If he/she lives in a Ao majority area, for example; Mokokchung, then that person will face a lot of temptation, he/ she will have to exclude a major portion of the people around her (because there's only 3 clan in Ao community: Jamir, Longkumer and Pongen, if I'm not mistaken). And I think with increasing population, Ao people, especially those living in Ao majority areas will face a lot of these problems (same clan couples, marriages). And that's sad to me.
Dear Cantabile thanks for sharing your valuable thoughts on this. I also do not know the numbers of how much clan Aos have as write this. Let me try writing down some. 1. Lemtur, 2. Longkumer, 3.Jamir, 4. Pongen, 5.Imsong, 6.Walling, 7.Yaden, 8.Kichutzar, 9. Imchen, 10.Ozukum, 11.Ningdangri, 12.Lusang, 13.Changkiri, 14.Amer, 15.Aier, 16.Longchar, 17.Kichu, 18.Keitzar, 19.Atsongchanger, 20. Mozer. I can remember only this much as of now as I write this. There are few more. Thanks for the question 👍 This is interesting indeed
There is only 3 original clans... Pongen, Jamir and Longkumer, and the remaining are all divided by from the 3 clans... For example, from longkumer smaller clans like lemtur, longchar, sayir, walking, nokdir, mekumpong etc. From Jamir... Kichu, salong, sempu, yaden, longri, metsubu etc. From pongen.... Aier, imchen, ozukum, imsong etc.
I heard our sumi friends have not much restrictions when it comes to same clan marriage, if they are far far related. I do not know how far it is true. Have to ask some of my close sumi friends🙂. Get ready my friend. This topic is becoming increasingly interesting for me as well. Am learning a lot reading all the comments. Thanks a lot 💚
Adopted child, according to science if an child is jumir, adopted by lukumer the child changed lukumer but still DNA is jumir. If he, she married jumir, he, she's child will become ugnormore
Thankyou so much sir for this massage I really really blesse personally sir bcz this days I'm facing with this situation im not fall in love with the same title but even me today my life also adopted girl n so I grw up I also face with the friends we r right title we get the Holy marriage my old title n adopted Dady title also its correct but many people does not understand that many people judge the first Dady title that blood only u need to take or we neet to take that's what who is the person don know the first father but after we grw up other people used to bring hurding the adopted parents also and ya I also understand how u give us the massage but specially village people n for fathers they are so judging that pastime one for me personally i came to know abt our title thankyou so much sir may God bless u even the days u have made a massage
Hello dear Khiam, the world needs love and if you are loved then you have everything. Those who have things to say have nothing to say. Let them be. God bless you more 🙏
Thanks for sharing this kind of valuable topic👍. I am from Chang community and my clan is Hongang (in Ao tribe it is Longkumer clan). So my opinion is that, I am a Longkumer man and for example I adopted a child who is from Jamir clan but the child is now legally a Longkumer. So I think it is wrong for the child to get married with a Longkumer significant other even though he/she is a Jamir by blood.
@@merenaier Yes, according to my knowledge a Hongang clan cannot Marry a Longkumer clan even if it's different tribe because in Naga context we are from the same culture and custom.
Yes, what pastor s talking about that s very true can't married wit same clan but it's also very difficult to break up when the same clan became love echother so, guys be careful before it's happen in your Life.I
We all Will only live once do what your heart says.... and do not bend your knees to satisfy societal standards. No one's gonna fight for your happiness it's you that will do. Thank you. NO NEGATIVITY PLEASE. GOD BLESS US ALL. KOKNALIM❤
Base on first question: There are some ways we can ponder about same title. There may be same title but it may not be very close, so if that is the case we can get married. My opinion.
As far as I know in Chakhesang tribe we can marry from the same clan/ title but it is taboo in Ao tribe. (correct me if I am wrong) So it is important to know what does the bible really talk about this.... Bible should be supreme and final not out culture or tradition...
I'm from Chakhesang community n both of my parents r from same clan n I heard we cannot marry a person wit the same clan so I asked my mom about dat coz my dad n mom is from same village so she told me when both of was trying to get married they consoled wit their families regarding their same clan so my mom's elder brother went to our native village to know more about our forefathers connections n from there we came to know dat my mom n my dad's forefathers isnt from same blood therefore both of the families approved their marriage n they got married it seems.
Thanks for sharing. Your parents did the right thing. We will not find precise answer in the Bible about our clan, but Bible too says to obey our parents and your parents did that. Which is why listening and obeying our parents is the will of God and that's what Bible says. Thanks for sharing dear lohe. God bles you❤️
Excellent pastor....highly appreciated the way you take questions and answers, hope through your answers video , it may give more clear picture to our youngsters as well as parents / elders will guide their Youngerster. Really...I like it very much. Praise God.....may you continue your ministry n share the tenderness to all.
Never adopted others , If you are longkumer you adopted only longkumer Or if you are jamir you can adopted jamir You adopted and change the sirname but the blood are navee change, Im Methna Loungyak of konyak If I want to adopted a boy or a girl I will adopted ( Loungyak,) sirname not another like a (Loukyen)
Hello pastor, I just want to share my doubt.... See I have a friend who has stepsisters. They're all married but one thing that confuses me is that, those step sisters changed their original title to the one that is same with the step dad... (I.e. From Jamir to Longchar). But as the time came for the elder sister to get married, they had this title problem .... The girls bf or say fiancee title was Longchar and at present it was impossible for them to marry, that's why all step sisters changed their title from Longchar back to Jamir... And then they got married.... Now there's the twist in the story again... Now the 2nd step sister who recently changed her title from longchar back to Jamir meets a boyfriend whose title was Jamir... 😄 They were so much in love and it was inseparable for them.... That's why the girl again changed to longchar again and they got married. So, I want to clarify like who is wrong and who is right in this? Is it not a sin to do this? ( I'm asking this because it has happened in real and I just want to know it for my knowledge)
Hi Everything, this sounds funny but its very serious one, especially for Ao community. Ill give you my opinion. First, let us leave aside the SIN part, because only God will judge and God is our judgement. Now coming back to first situation. There is big differences between step children and adopted Children. Actually, step children may have their step father's name but not clan. They may use step Father's clan too but so far, as far as my knowledge is concerned, no societies (village council) enforced that. Step father can't force step children to use his clan either (Am open to receive correction on this, if am wrong). So, if your friend's step sister title is Jamir by birth, then they cannot have step father title. I do not know on what ground they change their title, but as I said, no Bodies, Church or Village council will demand the step children to change their title. So, if your friend's step sisters are Jamir, then they cannot marry Jamir. Ao tradition will never allow that as far as my limited knowledge is concerned, on step Father's matter (but am so sorry if your friend happen to read this. I know no one personally). Did i answer your question?😬😁 Am also learning alot after making this video. Ill try to consult with concern bodies to organize seminars and workshops on this matters, especially for youth. Thanks once again.
As far as I know Ao's are very extreme in same clan marriages. We sumis are linient on it if there's 4-5 generation gabs same clan marriages are allowed.
Yes it is extreme for Ao's where as to some it is not... truely our Naga cultures is so strong and is so much bounded in us and we to culture. The fact is some traditions are so good and suprisingly so biblical as well but in the other side we have many cultural or traditional practises with so much loopholes coz our fore fathers didnt know the bible and the true God those days- they were into killing- head hunters. The truth today is our generation is still so much entangled with this fore- fathers practises and so much want to live with thought with many loopholes. Many traditional Taboos binding us still.
This topic is what pondering on my mind for a long time. Yes, we don't allow marriage between same clan. We even chased them out of the village or discommunicate them. But one very big thing that I failed to get answer from anyone was that, In the beginning God created only Adam and Eve. And blessed them with Cain and Abel. But Cain killed Abel, so from where those multitude/descendants came from..?? And also from Exodus, only Noah's family survived. So, how did the people multiply...?? So, Those were the questions I would like to put forward that's pondering on my mind. Thank you.
"Chase them out from village" so sad tradition still ruling...! In chakhesang we do allow marriage withing same clan if they are not close or blood relative. Yes your question..! The fact is God allow marrying withing close and blood relative for some period in the Old Testament ( During the time of Adam and Noah )( Genesis 9:7 God allow during Noah ) God's purposed was- They were to multiply. And yes after, God didnt allow them to marry with other nation or other clan ( meaning for some period in Old Testame God didnt allowed to marry with other clan and nation) the purpose was to let them be separated with ungodly people. And now in one time God stoped them (see the book of Liviticus) not to marry with blood relative or close relative were as it was allow during Adam and Noah period. Now, in New Testament we can marry with other nation or non believers if only if it is not going to hinder your faith but win them to Jesus (book of Corinthian). And about the matter that we are discussing "marrying withing same clan is sin" I dont know where in the bible it is mentioned as SIN.
@@rukungulievadeo3713 Wow.. Bringing in all ... Old testament and New testament... Great..!! I commented on that matter because I don't understand about the intermarriage like brothers and sisters so I'm also seeking for an answer. By the way , I'm staying in Pfutsero for sixteen years now, and I didn't target any chakhesang but you ruled out your practices of intermarriage. By the way we are not living in primitive stage.
@@rukungulievadeo3713 Yes, my quarries was about intermarriage, but I didn't mention anything about your tribe or any other Tribes. Why are you so arrogant to me as if I mentioned about your tribe. I don't have any objections about your community whether you practice intermarriage or whatsoever. So, what ever, just forget it. But instead of educating me and make clear of my doubts, you are just turning me around. I'm baffled..!! Let's end this topic here.
@@chongshenchang9367 bro I am just asking where I ruled out?? Simple question just want to know so that i can be corrected..! Where did i mentioned that you pointed out chakhesang or other tribe? And where am I so arrogant to you? I am simply asking question bro to be corrected. I think you took my comment in other sense. My sorry... please read my text coolly, you will no where see " arrogant " All are here to learn from one another. Yes peace out.!
Dear Nikon, thanks for the question. Every tribes and races have their own customs and traditions. It varies even among Nagas, therefore we need to abide by our own traditions. I think it is not wise to say that cultures are stupid just because it does not suits our thinking and wanted to go against it🙂. Just my opinion, not enforcing. Thank you.
Greetings Pastor Imli, Hope you and your family are doing really well. I was looking for contents relating this topic and seems u are the only Naga to have covered this topic on this platform. I am really glad u did and keep those videos rolling, it's awesome. May the good Lord bless u more.
I am seeing this video like after two years after you have posted it so I don't know if u will even see it😂...But anyway, here's my thoughts and question.
I am 30 now, with a job, and I am currently considering marriage. I have never dated or talked to any girl in my entire life…but just a year ago, I really fell in love with a female friend of mine, and sadly she happened to be the title as me. We have been really good and close friends for more than 10 years now and never did I even think about developing feelings for her. But after we started going to work together, do majority of things together, we got even more close and just automically developed feelings for one another.
We were, and even now we are totally aware about the traditional norms and rules regarding marriage between the same titles. But both of us loved each other so much that we decided to date secretly; we've totally kept our relationship totally pure and holy just like the Bible tells us what we should do.
But even though we love each other so much, we totally know that it's culturally and traditionally wrong so we decided to break up.
Ofc, we weren't planning to break the traditional rules and elope or something like that too. We both totally knew that we can't be together so we are separated now, even if we love each other so much. And I am finding it really hard to move on right now.
And right now I am constantly thinking about the situation and here are some of my thoughts and questions on it...
SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS:
I am from a science background, so I totally know the consequences of marriage between close relatives; that it would lead to abnormalities and various physical, as well as mental defects within the child.
On deep study, even scientifically, it is not advisable to marry a 1st or 2nd cousins due to the birth defects it may cause due to the genetic similarities between the parents. But going on from 3rd cousins (i.e even if their great-great grandparents are the same) it's scientifically backed and ok to get married.
For example, In my case, I am also from Ao tribe, both of us share the same title but, if we look at it, scientifically, I am mentioning again, scientifically….it will be totally ok to get married, because although we share the same lineage(forefathers) we are are like 7th, 8th, 9th or whatever cousins i.e something like only our great -great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather is same, which is totally far away, so scientifically it will be totally ok to marry someone of the same title as long as we aren't 1st or 2nd cousins.
BIBLICALLY:
In the Bible, book of Leviticus and Deuteronomy says a lot about whom one shouldn't marry, like, in Leviticus chapter 18: 7-18 talks about prohibited marriage between close relatives and kins; example, prohibited marriage between, mother, stepchildren, aunt, sister, half sister, daughter-in-law, sister-in-law, grand daughter, step grand-daughter etc…but it's doesn't talk about prohibition of marriage between cousins or same clans + we also see instances in the Bible where they were married to relatives or cousins, like, Abraham, Jacob etc etc. Ofc it's not talked about in the New Testament but in the Old Testament it is clearly mentioned and rather it was advised for the Israelites to marry the same clan.
So… what I want to conclude from all this is that, ofc all the laws mentioned in the Bible about marriage, were for the people of Israelites and people may say that it doesn't apply for us, but are we all now Christians and follow the laws of God? If it's scientifically backed that marriage beyond 3rd cousin is ok, and Biblically it does point about prohibited marriage between close relatives, kins, non-believers and all but allows the rest of marriages…In my condition, even though we the same title, we are linked but it's several generations apart, we aren't closely related.
I am not saying we should change our cultural or traditional laws right now, because even if we did right now, just imagine, the marriage system will totally change here…nor am I saying that it's ok to be married to the same title if we are not very closely related, but a thing to ponder upon is that are we not just following a traditional taboo? Ofc close relatives marriage is biblically prohibited but Is it even Biblically backed for the same clan of distant forefathers to not get married?
Hell dear, I read all the comments no matter how old it is, and you are located too🙂. Thanks for sharing your valuable thoughts.
Hello Pastor, my point of view is tat i guess same clan marriage is not a sin as long as we are not so close (*just my point of view) cause this tradition and culture was adopted even before our fore father knew about Christianity . I just want to mention like should we Ao's or nagas in general just correct this whole same clan system.
Got so much to say. But i hope you will bring up a video or you can speak to the community abt this concern topic as you are also one of the senior and you have right to speak about it cause we are still minor as compare to you.
Thank you❤🫂
God Bless🙌
I'm really shocked 😲 why people watching and listening.. after all these people are disliking ur wonderful videos.. Aiyyaa.. Anti-christ 🙄 Halleluyah... Amen 🙏
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1.Love at first sight ..
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3. Its hard to leave once you fall for a person
Very informative message for youngsters 👍👍👍 THANK YOU PASTOR
Never get tired of the message that you shared.
Thank you so much. May God bless you more and morw
There are many pastors but none of dm speak the truth...Ur the best pastor! I fully agreed wat u said.God bless.....
100% I agree with u Pastor.... God bless u.🙏🙏🙏
Praise the Lord. Thanks dear Antuhu
Wow much needed 🌺🌺🌺🌺
Yepthomi is my favorite clan name😁😁😁😁💚
Thank you for using that title 😍😍😍😍🤣 odi
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And I like Yepthomian 😂😂
Thank you 😁😇♥️
Appreciated 😁
Sister are you declaring in advance? eehh
Thank you so much for the info. I fall in love with same clan and we both were holding relationships for 5 years and now though we are no more but I still love her cause I dont want to go against with citizens law and also with God's words.
So I just want tell you guys that please don't fall in love with same clan or title because its really and very difficult to break up..
Thank you God bless you all.
The Bible doesn't say anything regarding same title marriage or cousin marriage but according to scientist, marriage shouldn't be between cousins up to the 3 generation. Because it's unhealthy and the children born of such marriage usually have a short life span. So It doesn't matter whether you're related through either of the parents. Since we are Christian and therefore we should refer to the Bible and not try to make or follow unnecessary hard and fast rule.
My apologyl if I have hurt any people through my words.
This is true
Bless us with more preachers like you who teach practical lessons to the mass.
Your neutral Nagamese accent is extremely clear and sweet.
Thank you sir. am humbled more.
This is so much needed for today's youngsters. Thank you pastor for uploading such knowledgeable video I'm sure all the family members of this channel whoever has watched this video will be blessed. God bless you pastor 🙏
Thanks for your encouragement and support 🙏💚
I'm much humbled pastor 🙏
Truely blessed.. God bless your ministry.
Keep going pastor❤
Sir @Imli_P_Lemtur with all due respect, I appreciate your effort in striving to answer the queries of the curious youths in this topic. I believe you as a senior, older Naga citizen, or perhaps a theologian or a man ministering the gospel have been just and unbiased in your answers and have tried your best to say which might be the fairer way out.
However since this is a 'sensitive' topic as you have said yourself I believe we should be rational, practical as well as bipolar if needed to understand both the sides.
Being of the same clan doesn't always necessarily mean that two individuals are related and specially if the two belong to different villages the changes get too slim. And when it gets to marriage, yes in our culture it is considered a taboo, which was followed by our ancestors to prevent incest and perhaps for other reasons also and has been observed for hundreds or if not thousands of years. However speaking in today's context after centuries have passed there will be variations in the blood or biological base, not everything of the flesh will be as same with everyone and when it comes to clan intermarriage people often think of cousin marriage which is not the case most of the time. It will have more to do with a couple belonging to two different ranges or villages, even far off villages but under the same clan name. In such cases the two individuals being relatives or even far related is very slim or none at all. Yes some can say in the root we are all the same but isn't it how every society or community sprouted one or more number of nuclear familes that sprouted and multiplied into an entire clan, tribe, race and civilization ? And the lineages and their biological traces change and undergo variations with time. Almost all over the world same clan, title or surname marriage or endogamy isn't a problem, specially if they aren't closely related. And science has proven it is safe as long as there is a certain level of distance mostly around the 3rd level of kingship or upto certain generational gaps. And many a times when one wishes to marry another of the same clan they aren't always cousins. Not everyone prefer cousin marriages.
And those countries that do not allow such form of marriages are changing their outlooks and accepting changes and marriage laws are ammended even in stern conservative societies like China, South Korea and India. They choose rational thinking and scientific reasoning over some ancient restrictive tradition.
And when it comes to religion,one might ask 'Aren't these traditional customs and traditions what we take pride in as Nagas despite them being irrational and whatever ?'. Well then every society had it's own set of numerous customers, traditions and practices since the beginning of time some were later considered as social evils, malpractices or just not fit or reasonable enough in a progressing society and were later discontinued or shunned. Change, development and understanding comes with time and it is wether if we accept these changes and makr a better system. Society always had flaws, issues, customs and traditions and some were left behind in the past because we eventually knew what would be a better way and sometimes negotiations and ammendments are made in a reasonable scale. Examples are how we as a society started accepting that private jobs and enterprises are equal to government jobs and lower than none, how female equality became a priority, how the LGBTQ community were given equal rights and privileges as any other people and how we started accepting woman education, stood against child labour, child marriage and how we accepted all religions as the same despite our spiritual diversity. I take these examples not to prove that my concept right but to give light on instances on where society and people overcame certain practices and customs for the greater good.
And in the Biblical context there is literally no verse that says that clan intermarriage is a sin, in fact the book of Moses and the book of Liviticus have mentioned rules and regulations in marriage which stands against marriage and sexual relations between siblings, parents and children and close relatives in fact there is also a verse that says a young girl should marry a man from her father's clan. However this doesn't mean everyone should practice it or it doesn't mean no one should. But in no way it is seen as a sin in both the old and new testament and hence many Christian countries and even the Jews accept clan endogamy to this day.
And the excommunication from the church that follows with a same clan marriage is also not right. When it is not seen as a sin in the Bible, how can we add our cultural practices and ideas into the church ? It has nothing to do with the church or the Christian rules of marriage as long as it is not a blood related communion.
We should accept some changes or have things understood between people so that our society progresses.
I hope changes happen for good.
God bless Nagaland.
Thank you so much 🙏
Thank you so much Pastor, I hope it will help many young men and women.
Sir you are always so calm, humble and careful in every word you deliver ....so blessed to listen to all the wisdoms
Every topic you have shared with us is very important. Thank you so much Pastor. May the good Lord bless you.
Bro Imli ... thanks for this informative sharing...
This is indeed much need of the hour... for our youngsters . GBU
M very much bless with your answers God bless your family pastor
This was actually to happen me once.after i knew she was the same clan😭😨 to me, i denied to date. Really sorry dear, but i did it good for both of us 🙏
This days many youngester need to learn this life lesson general truth for the prosperity of our Naga future, thank you so much Pastor Lumtur❤️❤️👌
It was a good message specially for many now a days youngsters. Thank you pastor.
Thanks for saying this.
Thank you so much sir this video had helped a lot. God bless you ♥️
The most important topic i have ever listen to your video. Everybody must listen to it. Keep sharing.
Thanks a ton dear ADI
Thnk you pastor 4, every words that u share. God bless u...
Thank you very much for this beautiful n meaningful messages
Very strong message for all the youngsters.Thankyou so much pastor🙏
Thank you so much
Marriage within the same clan is a taboo from our forefathers even before they were converted to christians, n it remains to this day. But in my opinion about adoption, if the adopted child is not the same as your's, it's exceptional, coz the adopted child is not blood related, he or she takes your title through legal terms.
I'm not trying to offend anyone out here and I really don't have much knowledge/ideas about the Bible so It's just my curiosity to know how we were/are being populated eventually if God created only Adam and Eve..!! Also it is said that when flood washed away the whole world, only Noah's family survived so how comes the present population had increased!
100% i agree with you sir God bless you
Thank you dear Carey.
Plz make video different between Sunday and Subath and which is the most important for present Christian
Thank you for the question. I'll work soon k
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Thank you so much 😀 good night ani
Bese khuse baiseday.very important for the youth topic koiteagarni.thanku so....much sir.
hello dear Jenny thanks for your encouragement
Hi, Mr.Lemtur, Thank you so much for your effort. As you've said this is hyper sensitive issue in today's society,especially in Ao community, however the subject is very pertinent for all. Your approach in a refined way is a brilliant idea. This will definitely work. (Lanur tashitemeter angudang, tesùngzùk ka angur). You are a good cultured gentleman. God bless
Oko.. nai ni ajungshiba asoshi kangasa Pelar. Maneni Sarasadem aser shisatsü agi yariangma. 🙏
Thank you Pastor. May God bless your ministry!.🙏
Tysm bro for your encouragement I'm very much blessed after hearing it...GBU
Thanks and bless you pastor for your kind advice to our present youth and it.s very important and necessary for them..
Pastoba your studio is improving.... Your voice is much clearer.... Anyway you present the topic very precisely keep it up. Thks
Many many thanks dear Pastor for your encouragement 🙏
Everyone needs to hear this👍♥️ Point to be noted 🙏
So true..Respect..God bless!!🙏🏻😇
Thank you very impordant message 🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍
So nice of you
Very strong and must know message thank you pastor👍✋
It is very true sir ......God bless you always.
In the context of Ao Naga there are two groups:
1. Jungli Group ( Jamir, Imsong Pongen and Longkumer) but there are many sub clans formed from these three clans. Jamir can marry imsong and longkumtsur but can't marry jamir and its sub clans, Imsongpongsen can marry Jamir and longkumer but can't marry Imsongpongen and its sub clans, Longkumer can marry Jamir and Imsong pongen but can't marry longkumer and its sub clans.
2. Mongsen Group ( Imchen, Longchar and Walling) also many sub clans formed out of this mongsen three clans. Imchen can marry Longchar and its sub clans but can't marry Imchen, Longchar can marry Imchen and its sub clans but can't marry Longchar. Walling can marry Imchen and Longchar and its sub clans but can't marry Walling.
Also Jungli groups can marry Mongsen groups.
I'm a Jungli Aier a sub clan of Imsong Pongen so I can't marry Imsong pongen but can marry Jamir, Longkumer and Mongsen Group clans. I can marry Mongsen Aier a sub clan under Imchen clan. I can't marry Imchen clans but only from Mangmetong village. The reason, our forefathers adopted one imchen guy from Mangmetong village as their own son. From that time technically imchen clans from Mangmetong village. became our brothers and sisters. But i can marry Imchen clans from other villages.
Marriage of same clans means marrying same blood and the result leads to deformation. Some children are born deformed cause of same clan marriage. Scientifically it can be explained.
I thank God because he gave wisdom to our ancestors while establishing customary laws, practices and administrative systems. Even administrative system (Putu menden) are executed in a very precise way. In a village the leaders (Tatar) are selected from the representatives. Each representatives consist of each clans in the village so no clans are left out. Its like a purest form of democracy.
Thankyou so much Pastor for this informative video about our naga practice. Hope many will learn about our rich and beautiful naga culture and its heritage.
God bless 🙏
Thank you so much for this informative write up (especially for Ao nagas)
@@ImliPLemtur kanga penlar a Pastorba. Im just sharing what I've learned from my Opa, Oja, Opu, Otsu, Oko, Onu and Yimertem 😊. I'm still learning our traditions and cultures. God bless 🙏
Bro , can a jungli Sempo a sub clan of Jamir marry mongsen kichu different village ?? I am very curious please reply .
Informative , very well explained and worth watching ,thankyou sir
Thank you for the important message God bless you
Thank you very much
welcome
Hallelujah... Praise you Lord... Good job pastor Sir...very important massage... For our all naga peoples... May God bless you Sir...
Thank you so much sir for the informative video..
God bless
My doubts on this is very clear now.. Thank you... Pastor
Thank you very much sir. I always feel encouraged seeing your comment. You are one of the members who stood by me from the beginning of my journey. good night
I didn't skip ads small contributions for your hardwork🙏
Thank you so so much 😀
God bless you more
Very much helpful message
God bless u pastor🙏
Thank you for beautiful message odi God bless you.
Amen
And those who read my comments god bless you ❤
Thanks you dear Janger. Always feel happy to see your comment. Good night
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Worth watching Thank you Pastor ❤️
Pastor, thank you very for your valuable knowledge that through you are motivating the youngsters of Naga. Based on your last question that we should ponder about the marriage between the adpoted son with father's title but not without blood relation is contradictory. But, every parents should know the cultural, traditional & customs of ancestral as well as the teachings of the Bible for better future happy marriage life
Thank you so much sir.
as in the OT its said in Numbers 32
The CHILD is Jamir by blood and LEMTUR by adoption. So he/she cannot marry to his/her OWN BLOOD but have to opt for other clan other than Lemtur and Jamir.
Which means he/she now have a very narrow option, only Pongen clan (apart from options of having other tribes), because Lemtur belongs to Longkumer clan. If he/she lives in a Ao majority area, for example; Mokokchung, then that person will face a lot of temptation, he/ she will have to exclude a major portion of the people around her (because there's only 3 clan in Ao community: Jamir, Longkumer and Pongen, if I'm not mistaken). And I think with increasing population, Ao people, especially those living in Ao majority areas will face a lot of these problems (same clan couples, marriages). And that's sad to me.
Dear Cantabile thanks for sharing your valuable thoughts on this. I also do not know the numbers of how much clan Aos have as write this. Let me try writing down some. 1. Lemtur, 2. Longkumer, 3.Jamir, 4. Pongen, 5.Imsong, 6.Walling, 7.Yaden, 8.Kichutzar, 9. Imchen, 10.Ozukum, 11.Ningdangri, 12.Lusang, 13.Changkiri, 14.Amer, 15.Aier, 16.Longchar, 17.Kichu, 18.Keitzar, 19.Atsongchanger, 20. Mozer.
I can remember only this much as of now as I write this. There are few more. Thanks for the question 👍
This is interesting indeed
21. Mongro
Tzudir too.
There is only 3 original clans... Pongen, Jamir and Longkumer, and the remaining are all divided by from the 3 clans... For example, from longkumer smaller clans like lemtur, longchar, sayir, walking, nokdir, mekumpong etc.
From Jamir... Kichu, salong, sempu, yaden, longri, metsubu etc.
From pongen.... Aier, imchen, ozukum, imsong etc.
Thank you so much for your priceless message may God bless you with long life
Thank you for your prayers
thankyou so much l have learned a good thing.... Thank you so much sir. 😊
I'm here with you new subscribers, and we can support you..
I appreciate that. many many thanks
What about different tribe but same clan.?
I have been thinking of this and im not getting any proper answer 🙃😂
Very important message thank you brother God bless you
So nice of you. Thanks dear Jackie
Thank you so much pastor for giving necessary information and enlighten young people like us lots of love and support to you sir
🙏 Thank you Pastor,100% I agree. 👍 God bless you 😇
I heard our sumi friends have not much restrictions when it comes to same clan marriage, if they are far far related. I do not know how far it is true. Have to ask some of my close sumi friends🙂. Get ready my friend.
This topic is becoming increasingly interesting for me as well. Am learning a lot reading all the comments.
Thanks a lot 💚
Very important to know ones life.
Thanks you so much
same to you dear Inn
Every tribe should know about it tq. For blessing from God.
Thank you so much, Pastor. It's a very informative message for the youngsters.
Adopted child, according to science if an child is jumir, adopted by lukumer the child changed lukumer but still DNA is jumir. If he, she married jumir, he, she's child will become ugnormore
Thankyou so much sir for this massage I really really blesse personally sir bcz this days I'm facing with this situation im not fall in love with the same title but even me today my life also adopted girl n so I grw up I also face with the friends we r right title we get the Holy marriage my old title n adopted Dady title also its correct but many people does not understand that many people judge the first Dady title that blood only u need to take or we neet to take that's what who is the person don know the first father but after we grw up other people used to bring hurding the adopted parents also and ya I also understand how u give us the massage but specially village people n for fathers they are so judging that pastime one for me personally i came to know abt our title thankyou so much sir may God bless u even the days u have made a massage
Hello dear Khiam, the world needs love and if you are loved then you have everything. Those who have things to say have nothing to say. Let them be. God bless you more 🙏
Thanks for sharing this kind of valuable topic👍.
I am from Chang community and my clan is Hongang (in Ao tribe it is Longkumer clan). So my opinion is that, I am a Longkumer man and for example I adopted a child who is from Jamir clan but the child is now legally a Longkumer. So I think it is wrong for the child to get married with a Longkumer significant other even though he/she is a Jamir by blood.
thank you sir
Hongang (Chang) guy cannot marry Longkumer (Ao) gal? Even its different tribe??
@@merenaier Yes, according to my knowledge a Hongang clan cannot Marry a Longkumer clan even if it's different tribe because in Naga context we are from the same culture and custom.
Well said....Thank you sir for giving awareness ..
Yes, what pastor s talking about that s very true can't married wit same clan but it's also very difficult to break up when the same clan became love echother so, guys be careful before it's happen in your Life.I
Thanks for ur beautiful words for the today youths sir
Thank you brother God bless you
Need to know by the youngsters.👍. Thank you Pastor
Thank you bro, very important may God blessed you .
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Yes. We Naga never allowed to marry with the same clan.
We all Will only live once do what your heart says.... and do not bend your knees to satisfy societal standards. No one's gonna fight for your happiness it's you that will do. Thank you. NO NEGATIVITY PLEASE. GOD BLESS US ALL. KOKNALIM❤
Thank you pastor, this topic is very important to all the youth
Bahut achcha khabar diya hai sir
Thank you so much 💚🙏
Base on first question: There are some ways we can ponder about same title. There may be same title but it may not be very close, so if that is the case we can get married. My opinion.
As far as I know in Chakhesang tribe we can marry from the same clan/ title but it is taboo in Ao tribe. (correct me if I am wrong)
So it is important to know what does the bible really talk about this.... Bible should be supreme and final not out culture or tradition...
It's not about bloodline alone but traditional practice matters and need to understand and hold structural base in society.
Thank you
In our Society we can marry same title but there must be a Gap of 7 generations Gap.🙏
thanks a lot
Thank you paster 👍God bless you
Thank you too dear Shiu
Tqsm bro god bless u all 👍
Thanks to you too ❤️
Ur point of view is very important to all naga👍👍👏✌️
Thanks alot
You are such an inspiration. GBU
Praise the Lord 🙏💚
I'm from Chakhesang community n both of my parents r from same clan n I heard we cannot marry a person wit the same clan so I asked my mom about dat coz my dad n mom is from same village so she told me when both of was trying to get married they consoled wit their families regarding their same clan so my mom's elder brother went to our native village to know more about our forefathers connections n from there we came to know dat my mom n my dad's forefathers isnt from same blood therefore both of the families approved their marriage n they got married it seems.
Thanks for sharing. Your parents did the right thing. We will not find precise answer in the Bible about our clan, but Bible too says to obey our parents and your parents did that. Which is why listening and obeying our parents is the will of God and that's what Bible says. Thanks for sharing dear lohe. God bles you❤️
Excellent pastor....highly appreciated the way you take questions and answers, hope through your answers video , it may give more clear picture to our youngsters as well as parents / elders will guide their Youngerster. Really...I like it very much. Praise God.....may you continue your ministry n share the tenderness to all.
Wow Imli great, Iam so blessed
Thank you Odi 🙏
Like you have mentioned in Ephesians 1.5
Yes, my adopted son(longkumer) though he is a Jamir by blood can marry a Jamir girl coz he is Longkumer now.
Never adopted others ,
If you are longkumer you adopted only longkumer
Or if you are jamir you can adopted jamir
You adopted and change the sirname but the blood are navee change,
Im Methna Loungyak of konyak
If I want to adopted a boy or a girl I will adopted ( Loungyak,) sirname not another like a (Loukyen)
Thank you so much ❤️ brother 🙏 clearly 🙌 instruction I'm so happy 💯
Wow thank you so much for valuable messages
You are very welcome. Am glad it help. Thank you
Hello pastor, I just want to share my doubt.... See I have a friend who has stepsisters. They're all married but one thing that confuses me is that, those step sisters changed their original title to the one that is same with the step dad... (I.e. From Jamir to Longchar). But as the time came for the elder sister to get married, they had this title problem .... The girls bf or say fiancee title was Longchar and at present it was impossible for them to marry, that's why all step sisters changed their title from Longchar back to Jamir... And then they got married.... Now there's the twist in the story again... Now the 2nd step sister who recently changed her title from longchar back to Jamir meets a boyfriend whose title was Jamir... 😄 They were so much in love and it was inseparable for them.... That's why the girl again changed to longchar again and they got married. So, I want to clarify like who is wrong and who is right in this? Is it not a sin to do this?
( I'm asking this because it has happened in real and I just want to know it for my knowledge)
Hi Everything, this sounds funny but its very serious one, especially for Ao community.
Ill give you my opinion. First, let us leave aside the SIN part, because only God will judge and God is our judgement.
Now coming back to first situation. There is big differences between step children and adopted Children.
Actually, step children may have their step father's name but not clan. They may use step Father's clan too but so far, as far as my knowledge is concerned, no societies (village council) enforced that. Step father can't force step children to use his clan either (Am open to receive correction on this, if am wrong).
So, if your friend's step sister title is Jamir by birth, then they cannot have step father title. I do not know on what ground they change their title, but as I said, no Bodies, Church or Village council will demand the step children to change their title. So, if your friend's step sisters are Jamir, then they cannot marry Jamir. Ao tradition will never allow that as far as my limited knowledge is concerned, on step Father's matter (but am so sorry if your friend happen to read this. I know no one personally). Did i answer your question?😬😁
Am also learning alot after making this video. Ill try to consult with concern bodies to organize seminars and workshops on this matters, especially for youth.
Thanks once again.
As far as I know Ao's are very extreme in same clan marriages. We sumis are linient on it if there's 4-5 generation gabs same clan marriages are allowed.
Dear Ayemi, what you have said is very true. For Ao's it is impossible. Thank you so much for sharing.
For Konyak also it is impossible
Yes it is extreme for Ao's where as to some it is not... truely our Naga cultures is so strong and is so much bounded in us and we to culture. The fact is some traditions are so good and suprisingly so biblical as well but in the other side we have many cultural or traditional practises with so much loopholes coz our fore fathers didnt know the bible and the true God those days- they were into killing- head hunters. The truth today is our generation is still so much entangled with this fore- fathers practises and so much want to live with thought with many loopholes. Many traditional Taboos binding us still.
Thank you may God bless you...🙏
Intresting ..video sir .
Thank you 🙏💚
If we already knew the real title of the adopted child we should not let them marry with the same clan. Follow the blood line,I suggest 🙂
Sir, please provide subtitle for all your videos... Please 🙏🙏🙏
Sure my friend. Pardon me for this video. Thanks for your support
This topic is what pondering on my mind for a long time. Yes, we don't allow marriage between same clan. We even chased them out of the village or discommunicate them.
But one very big thing that I failed to get answer from anyone was that, In the beginning God created only Adam and Eve. And blessed them with Cain and Abel. But Cain killed Abel, so from where those multitude/descendants came from..?? And also from Exodus, only Noah's family survived. So, how did the people multiply...?? So, Those were the questions I would like to put forward that's pondering on my mind. Thank you.
"Chase them out from village" so sad tradition still ruling...! In chakhesang we do allow marriage withing same clan if they are not close or blood relative.
Yes your question..!
The fact is God allow marrying withing close and blood relative for some period in the Old Testament ( During the time of Adam and Noah )( Genesis 9:7 God allow during Noah ) God's purposed was-
They were to multiply. And yes after, God didnt allow them to marry with other nation or other clan ( meaning for some period in Old Testame God didnt allowed to marry with other clan and nation) the purpose was to let them be separated with ungodly people. And now in one time God stoped them (see the book of Liviticus) not to marry with blood relative or close relative were as it was allow during Adam and Noah period.
Now, in New Testament we can marry with other nation or non believers if only if it is not going to hinder your faith but win them to Jesus (book of Corinthian). And about the matter that we are discussing "marrying withing same clan is sin" I dont know where in the bible it is mentioned as SIN.
@@rukungulievadeo3713 Wow.. Bringing in all ... Old testament and New testament... Great..!!
I commented on that matter because I don't understand about the intermarriage like brothers and sisters so I'm also seeking for an answer. By the way , I'm staying in Pfutsero for sixteen years now, and I didn't target any chakhesang but you ruled out your practices of intermarriage. By the way we are not living in primitive stage.
@@chongshenchang9367 explain and enlighten me in the area where I ruled out..
@@rukungulievadeo3713 Yes, my quarries was about intermarriage, but I didn't mention anything about your tribe or any other Tribes. Why are you so arrogant to me as if I mentioned about your tribe. I don't have any objections about your community whether you practice intermarriage or whatsoever. So, what ever, just forget it. But instead of educating me and make clear of my doubts, you are just turning me around. I'm baffled..!!
Let's end this topic here.
@@chongshenchang9367 bro I am just asking where I ruled out?? Simple question just want to know so that i can be corrected..! Where did i mentioned that you pointed out chakhesang or other tribe? And where am I so arrogant to you? I am simply asking question bro to be corrected. I think you took my comment in other sense. My sorry... please read my text coolly, you will no where see " arrogant "
All are here to learn from one another. Yes peace out.!
Right knowledge
Thank you so much 👍👍
Thanks to you too
I believed most parents don't have such knowledge it's very important informative both parents and youths as well.
Thank you so much 🙏
What about the plains people (kala Mano Khan) they are also like us or they marry with same title.
Dear Nikon, thanks for the question. Every tribes and races have their own customs and traditions. It varies even among Nagas, therefore we need to abide by our own traditions.
I think it is not wise to say that cultures are stupid just because it does not suits our thinking and wanted to go against it🙂. Just my opinion, not enforcing. Thank you.