“Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” Job 38:4-7 KJV
You need to do more research sir. I'm on the fence on this issue because the people for the gap can point to scriptures in Ezekiel, Isaiah, etc. that make this possible. People trying to refute will not look at this. This was very weak and only meant to persuade without regard to truth
Most people that have really studied it look to the meaning of the Hebrew. Hank completely avoids the true meaning of the Hebrew. That is where the argument really is. I'd be happy to talk more with you about it.
Matt Prater So what you are implying is that you cannot see this doctrine in the English translation. That’s similar to what the Roman Catholic Church does with Scripture. Very Dangerous.
I always figured that God created Adam as an adult, an active functioning individual. As such, I figured that the world was created as active and functioning, given the appearance of age by its activity, such as a river which has depth already instead of being carved out over the years by natural water. So ya, it makes sense that the earth scientifically appears aged, because that is how it was created.
Yes, good point, i've thought the same. But i guess as humans and especially scientific intellects have to think logical to try and understand something. For example, they will say a light from a star in another galaxy will reach the earth approx 500M LY. But who says God has to work that way, why do they limit God's power to their human capacity?
@@jeffebdy Correct. Also as stated in Genesis the earth was made before the Sun, moon and stars. In other words, the atheistic Big Bang theory to explain how the Universe came about is totally false and anti-Biblical.
The difficulty with doing science to determine the age of the earth is that science relies on the assumption of uniformitarianism. The Bible however presents a very stark discontinuity between the pre- and post- fall eras, suggesting that uniformitarianism will lead to misleading answers.
@LostsTVandRadio Are there not universal constants? Gravity? Speed of light? Can logic be trusted? Basic reliability of sense perception? Cause and effect? None of these can be trusted?
I would certainly hold that logic can be trusted absolutely. Many of the 'universal constants' can be trusted but within certain parameters, and that's the issue. Earth scientists rely on natural chronometers, and the interpretation of the observable data in turn relies upon the assumption of uniformitarianism. The most common chronometer is radiometric dating and the interpretation of this requires a number of other assumptions too, all of which can potentially be flawed. My first theological question would be this - before sin entered the world was there any decay (radioactive or otherwise) or were isotopes stable? Concerning the speed of light, it does of course vary by medium. Gravity is barely understood - is it the effect of the bending of space-time by mass, is it mediated graviton particles or perhaps both? Certainly its effects are quite well documented but we await any significant progress towards a unified field theory. Cause and effect are also problematic in that by using a naturalistic reductionist (scientific) approach no room is allowed for an agent outside of space and time. So as a Cambridge-trained earth scientist myself I would always caution against being too swept away by the 'certainties' of pop science. @@BibleAnswerMan
He lost me when he said "do good science, but don't appeal to scripture"...I suppose science will also tell us all about salvation as well. Yea...right.
The Bible and science are two separate categories. Neither of them oppose the other. But neither of them can totally inform you of the other either. They only overlap in some areas at best.
@Harvey Hamlett Generally the verses are taken out of context and used as pretext for the purported gap of time. See the following articles > www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
The problem with the gap theory is that it does exactly what the Bible says not to do: take away from or add to the Word of God. Once we do that, we're opening a can of worm that can't be closed.
The gap theory doesn’t take away or add anything, because it’s not a theory get out of you religion/tradition and God will reveal it to you as well. Secondly your taking the add and take away portion of scripture out of context, that passage/warning is talking specifically about the book of Revelation that’s why it’s does not appear anywhere else. Thridly YH TEACHES IN 2 Timothy 2:15 that in order to understand scripture you will have to rightly divide the word meaning to take away and add why because in the Greek language alone the word love has 5 different words with five different meanings, in English Love is one word with one meaning.
@@pierrelightfoot2669this is one of the reasons why one should at the very least consider gap theory. There’s a few things that can’t be explained with no gap that can’t just go ignored. If the angels tasked with protecting the garden were armed with flaming swords and satan and the angels hadn’t fallen yet, what was significant enough to warrant armed angels. The point about if God didn’t mention it, it didn’t happen is likewise valid (at least due in part of it being so widely taught and accepted) but now I question if that mentality is derived from misunderstanding and misinterpretation.
Of course not, because the theory itself is so convoluted in its attempts to coincide with worldly notions of our origins that it tramples over the simplicity of what scripture plainly states of itself.
Yeah, 6 minutes is not enough, neither is only 3 reasons not to believe it. I mean how long did Satan live before he thought he could be like the Most High? Thousands of years or only a couple of days? Satan fell by saying 5 things. One of those 5 is that he will be seated above the stars of God. The stars were not even created until day 4th day. He was also called the son of the morning. Morning didn't exist until God created light and divided it from the darkness on the 1st day. Maybe these people who come up with this stuff are just bored.
You haven’t changed my mind on gap theory; I most certainly still believe it. That being said, I really appreciate this video because it has forced me to think about my position. Great work.
There is no such thing as a Gap in Creation. People read into a Bible rather than from it. They also haven't got dictionaries to make word studies of the English words they're reading... the Bible wasn't written in English. The context of Gen.1:1 explains itself in V.5b... "And there was evening and there was morning, one day." Is that so hard to comprehend? It is when people are not satisfied with God and think they are Bible exegetes so to reframe his Word to their limited thinking ability. Nonetheless, the age of the universe is found in Holy Scripture if you're capable and patient to do the homework to learn it. If not, you banish yourself to a darkness you yourself created.
@@oldmanjoe6808 the age of the universe is not found in Holy Scripture, so that's a false statement. No amount of homework will yield the answer, only a "guesstimate" at best. That's why just about every Christian says "6000 years." A nice round number. Not 5976, not 6024. The gap doesn't have to be read into the Bible and CAN be formed from indirect, scriptural evidence. You say that "the context of Gen.1:1 explains itself in V.5b" yet fail to realize that EVERY single day in Genesis 1 starts with "And God said" and ends with "and the evening and the morning..." That scriptural pattern puts the start of day 1 in Genesis 1:3, not 1:1. In Genesis 1:2, the condition of the Earth is without form and void, with darkness upon the face of the deep. The Earth is said to be without form and void and the heavens without light (darkness) one other time in scripture, Jeremiah 4:23. In the context of that verse it's due to God's judgment (His fierce anger, Jeremiah 4:26). So there is scriptural evidence supporting an Earth without form and void with darkness in relation to God's judgment. When did Satan and his angels fall? It's not revealed in scripture. Regardless of your stance, you have to place their fall somewhere between Genesis 1 and 2 (before the serpent/Satan shows up in Gen. 3). What about their creation? Well, notice Job 38:4-7, Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Notice how the morning stars and sons of God (angels) shouted for joy WHEN (not after) God laid the foundations of the earth. When God was in the process of creating the earth, they already existed. And then there's 2 Peter 3:3-7. in verses 4-5, Peter mentions that the scoffers are ignorant concerning the beginning of the creation (in saying "all things continue as they WERE from the beginning") and mentions that the heavens (plural) WERE of old AND the earth standing out of the water and in the water. That is the condition of the earth in Genesis 1:2, NOT the flood of Noah's time. Read verses 6 and 7 VERY carefully. Verse 6 says "the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished." That world includes the heavens and earth mentioned in verse 5. The next verse (7) makes that clear: "But the HEAVENS and the EARTH, which are now (as opposed to the heavens and earth which were), by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." Then Peter mentions the promise of new heavens and a new earth in verse 13 (once again making a distinction between our current heavens and earth). The flood in Noah's time covered the Earth and didn't affect the heavens (plural). When the waters receded and Noah came out of the ark, it was the same Earth and heavens. The entire world didn't perish: Not Noah, his sons, their wives nor all the creatures in the ark with them. In fact, the giants didn't perish either (compare Genesis 6:4 with Deuteronomy 3:11 & Numbers 13:33). By this point, the evidence should be overwhelming.
The only thing this video prooved is that wearing a Mr. Roger's sweater and a pair of glasses doesn't make you wise. The gap is actually easier to believe than Christians going around saying the earth (and the cosmos) is 6k years old...and yes, I'm a Christian. Ask them to explain how we can capture light coming from galaxies billions of miles away, they start making silly counter arguments against people like Einstein and Steven Hawkins. Yes, Einstein...the man who came up with E=MC2
Hmm...something CLEARLY happened before Adam got here bc none if this is recorded in Genesis...Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy? Job 38:4-7 KJV
Gap Theory is just that, a theory that cannot be proven and, therefore cannot be false. There are some of us who are more curious, which is okay, and we want to understand the bible in depth. There is no denying something happened between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. Based on what I heard from multiple apologists, the conclusion I reached is the gap is not millions of years, but more like tens of thousands of years.
@Bigeinla but any gap of unspecified finite time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 is forced. But, yes, theories proposed about how such can be are unfalsifiable.
I agree that something did indeed happen between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. Also, the gap of time could even be as little as 200 or 500 years. It need not be in the thousands, even for the theory to be correct. Some can't even agree on whether or not the seven days were seven literal, 24 hour days, or each day being 1,000 years. I personally subscribe to the idea that it was seven literal days. Mental gymnastics are not necessary in order for the gap theory to be true and accurate. There are plenty of verses and passages throughout the Bible that support it. A six minute video isn't a sufficient enough time to thoroughly cover this topic.
People always miss the most salient point of the fall. Adam and eve were cast OUT of the garden. The place we are now, is not where Adam and Eve were created. Once you grasp that FACT all kinds of possibilities open up.
Very weak arguments that ignore scriptures that would support the gap theory. False motivations implied to gap theorists. I could hardly conceive that this was a serious effort to convince anybody that the gap theory was wrong.
Hank addresses the age of the earth in the following… www.equip.org/bible_answers/young-world/ www.equip.org/bible_answers/universe-created/ www.equip.org/bible_answers/genesis-creation-days-literal-long-literary/ www.equip.org/bible_answers/god-create-handiwork-appearance-age/ www.equip.org/bible_answers/exegetical-liabilities-twenty-four-hour-view/
The implications here for mankind's place in history haven't been mentioned yet but are rather significant. Supposing the hard stop in Hebrew between 1.1 into 1.2, where the created earth is described as "laid to waste" and in "ruin" means that this is simply the manner in which God chose to create our planet ... well it's an odd choice of both words and/or engineering, but it tells us that He's done all that He has, just for us. We are indeed the first-love darling of creation! If however, one considers that a King of Tyre-type figure, who was created blameless as a guardian cherub until he lifted his head in rebellion and was hence reduced to "ashes on earth" (Ezekiel 28) ... well then, maybe a previously perfect earth was initially made for another people, prince or purpose? In which case, we might just be part of an even more incredible story ... of this folly being played out with our stepping in as lowly but eligible heirs in place of a disgraced usurper, playing out the final days of his own self-indictment and looking to discredit mankind in the process. No fear or science here, just questions about scripture to consider 🙏 Thanks goes to the late Dr. Donald Barnhouse for his book "The Invisible War" and the spirit-filled insights shared for understanding.
We know Satan (i.e. the Dragon, the Devil or the Serpent) was present in Eden to deceive Eve per divine revelation received by John per Rev. 12:9; 20:2. Nothing in Revelation tells of the exact moment of Satan’s fall. Ezekiel 28 is speaking directly about the king of Tyre, but he is likened to the cherub who fell. The cherub was present in Eden but gives no exact moment of the fall. Did Satan fall prior or subsequent or simultaneous with the creation of the universe? Did Satan fall prior or subsequent or simultaneous with the creation of Adam and Eve and the planting of Eden?Not specified.
@@BibleAnswerMan In Jeremiah 4:23 God is referencing Genesis 1. God goes on to say that this old earth age was destroyed in Jeremiah 4:24 to 4:26. Many academics consider Dr. E.W. Bullinger to be perhaps the most esteemed Biblical scholar. Dr. Bullinger also said that Jeremiah 4:23 is referencing Genesis 1, and talking about an earth age that was destroyed by God's anger as stipulated in Jeremiah 4:26.
The problem with your theory is Job 38 starts creation with the first rock. The corner stone. Your Interpretation of Genesis starts the earth as a ball of water. Either there's a gap or a contradiction.
The problem is how did Lucifer creation and fall take less than a week and then tempt Eve within like less then one day, before she could be fruitful and multiply.
Nicely done Hank. Many thanks. Those who believe in a gap theory are making a mockery of our Lord when He said “But from the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female.” Mark 10:6. He is all powerful so He could have made everything in an instant but chose to do it the way it’s outlined in Genesis and Exodus. It makes no sense to refer to it as “the beginning of the creation” if there were billions or even just millions or thousands of years before the creation of mankind as expressed by the various gap theories. So, Jesus is most definitely claiming that the world cannot have existed for very long prior to Adam and Eve compared to the time elapsed between their making and the time of Jesus here on earth some 2,000 years ago from our time.
Very limited understanding of genesis first and second chapter. Ignore the fact that the earth had to be replenished. When god said there should be light he wasn't talking about about light from the sun. He was talking about John 1:1
I don't know if the gap theory is true or false and since it is not a salvation isuue, I really don't care that much. I will say this though. We know in the end God creates a new earth. That's 2 earths. Doesn't God typically work in 3's? It could also explain the challenges presented regarding dinosaurs and the fossil record which have a distinct break in time.
My research and study of the bible and scripture lead me to my own conclusion that there is a huge Gap between Gen 1 and Gen 2. Therefore your point is weak and not applicable re the 2 main proponents you first mention. Your fist point you make about Gap theory being driven by fear of "New Scientific Discoveries" is also completely false. I have zero fear of such things.
You are so ignorant it’s disgusting you cannot read the Bible and then find a gap between genesis one and two! The earth is not millions of years old and yes science proves this true pure science!
@Charles Payton Thank you for a logical, well thought out comment. This is an important subject in my opinion and open dialog like this is very beneficial to helping us to grow and better understand the word of God and our role on in the World. Correctly understanding time frames is also key to understanding what is being talked about in other sections of scripture. This in turn helps us better serve God and share his word by being able to answer hard questions atheists raise, such as: Did Cain marry his sister (implying incest) or was the earth populated with "Man"at that time (which it was as God had already populated the earth in Gen 1:26).
None of the early church fathers would agree with you. When will you or anyone that adheres to this ridiculous notion understand you are trying to fit the Word of God into the secular atheistic understandings of our origins. You are following man rather than God in regard to what the Word states of itself, choosing the wisdom of man over Faith in what God stated of Himself. First this then what? You will be the same as the Catholics that adhere to darwinistic evolution as well, what a shame to reject the Word of God for a lie, you only hurt yourself going down this road.
What was Peter saying when he said in 2nd Peter chapter 3 verse 5 speaking about the old earth when it was half in water and half out of water. This is not speaking of Noah’s flood because Noah’s flood was global. Also where did demons come from because God did not created evil spirits. Just a couple of Questions. Please explain
“Earth was formed out of water & through water” meaning the earth itself was made by water, and through that water it was then formed(land etc.) Noahs flood is in verse 6.
@@ricoparadiso yes but that doesn’t answer my question, Noah’s flood was a global flood. Peter in 2nd Peter chapter 3 verse 5 Peter is speaking of a time when the earth was half in water and half out of water. Peter is clearly speaking of a different event that had taking place. Lucifer was the angel God put in charge of the earth and the universe before God created mankind. Lucifer has done something at that time which then God Judged Lucifer and those other angels this is when they fell.
@Robert ~ Peter is condensing (telescoping or summarizing) Gen 1-11. The earth formed out of water (2 Pet. 3:5) alludes to Genesis 1 along with Psalm 24:2 and 136:6. The world that perish by water (2 Pet. 3:6) alludes to the deluge in Noah’s day.
Wrong... Personal opion is NOT Biblical..This is your personal opinion..... The Bible teaches Gap Fact.. Learn & know your Bible..Learn what create and made mean...
Gene Kim better explains why the Gap Theory is correct. There's no ad hominen attacks or any other fallacies. Just interpretation and misinterpretation.
@@warren88olen37 It sure does and Jeremiah 4:23 is referencing Genesis 1, and through verses 24, 25, 26 God tells us that this old world was destroyed because of his fierce anger.
@@gskessingerable Oh right this was talking about the judgment to come if they did not repent. It was a warning. It has nothing to do with Genesis other than a warning. It is one of those reaches by the gap theorists. It does not mean God destroyed the earth but that God can turn things back to how they were. Does this passage ever say God destroyed things back then? No. If God had recreated the earth then why not say recreated instead of created.. The gap theory goes against the word of God, Sorry but there is no biblical evidence. People WANT to believe this for some reason but it is not biblical.
Recently heard about the Gap Theory, just wondering about the creation before Adam and Eve, do they believe that that creation was created sinless and perfect, do they believe that there was sin there the whole time. Thank you.
@PaulStewart - The gist of your question is dealt with in the video. The gap theory is an illegitimate doctrinal imposition upon the biblical text. It is a failed attempt to resolve the biblical text with the geological evidence for an old earth. No exegetically justifiable reason to read a finite but extensive period of time between any of the verses in Genesis 1. See these articles www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ and www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/ The following is a better understanding of how to account for the fall of Adam resulting in natural evil in light of nature being red in tooth and claw prior to the emergence of modern humans. > www.equip.org/article/old-earth-creationism-and-the-fall/
@@BibleAnswerMan thank you for your response, a lot of what you guys talked about, words and phrases go right over my head, I believe in a literal Six-Day creation, just wondering what they believed about that first race of people before Adam and Eve, how they justify a pre Adam race of people, there's enough great and awesome stuff in the Bible to spend your time on, and keep a Christian busy without speculating about things that aren't in the Bible.
@@BibleAnswerMan Hello, currently exploring the Gap Theory (fact). If there was not a gap, then does that mean that Satan fell after Adam and Eve were created? If so, then why did he tempt them in the garden?
@@paulstewart6203 the inhabitants of the Pre- Adamic world were Angelic, not of human kind.... Adam was created whole, sinless , until the fall. Angel's we're sinless until Satan fell
@@edwardtelles1956 thanks for the response, the only time I ever heard this Theory referred to, they specifically mentioned "a race of people, before Adam and Eve"
Jeremiah 4:23-26 is not about the creation but the undoing of creation, which describes the utter destruction apostate Judah would experience for forsaking their covenant with Yahweh. The creation imagery from Genesis 1 is reversed in Jeremiah 4. No gap theory in Jeremiah. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ and www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
@@BibleAnswerMan what lol. Genesis 1 was already an undoing of a creation. Without form and void. We know God don’t create in vain and he created this world to be inhabited (Isaiah 45:18. In Hebrew form and void is chaos or judgement. I’m sure you know the terms. So you have no evidence that Jeremiah 4:23-27 is different. Judah got overthrown by Babylon for their acts. Jeremiah is there while they are already in captivity. So your interpretation of that is wrong lol. You literally just making up stuff with no backbone. Who you think you are? I’m comparing scriptures while you are throwing stuff in the air from no sources as if we are suppose to trust you before the Bible.
But you are totally wrong because Bible says at Isaiah 45:18, God created earth 🌎 habitable, ready to live at Genesis 1:1. Don't run after science, it will make you mad man some day. Instead read your Bible properly and it will lead you to peace and life.
@biblicus8204 Satan is a noncorporeal being and special language never directly applies, special language such as an object falling downwards to the ground. Rather, Satan’s fall is a fall from a right relationship to God. It is because of Satan’s rebellion that upon his own accord he persists in opposing God and the things of God. When we say, "I sinned and fell away from God," we do not mean we are physically laying on the ground somewhere; rather, we men that we have transgressed against the Lord in some way, like disobeyed a commandment, and that we are resistant to coming alongside God and experiencing life with God, making His plans and purposes our plans and purposes. The same problem with Satan. Satan rejects God, and opposes all of God's plans and purposes for the creation, particularly the angelic heavenly host.
Hank...I misrepresented you on my last comment the other day...please accept my apology. I stated that you were a proponent of preterism, and that you believed that Jesus returned in 70 A.D. However, I was mistaken because of a radio broadcast, where you were answering questions about preterism a few years ago. I now realize that you are a partial preterist/idealist, in which you are looking for the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ at a future time. I recognize you as a brother in Christ, and felt it was only right to correct this error.
@E Good question. Only the biblical illiterates will read Genesis 1 and imagine an long gap of unspecified but finite amount of time duration between verse 1 and verse 2. No other passage in the Bible hints at this. The one who embraces gap theory certainly has to answer your comment: "scripture proof please not just your thoughts." Thank you
@@BibleAnswerMan Genesis 1:2 “And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Here's one of many verses ..Darkness , no where in the bible is darkness likened to creation or good. Isaiah 45:18 God created the earth not in vain but to be inhabited.
That is just the prelude to the creative declaration "Let there be light." No time gap suggested. See the articles... www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ and www.equip.org/articles/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
@BibleAnswerMan many have provided scripture that supports the gap theory. What basis do you have, based on scripture, that gap theorists are wrong? Since you are the one making the statement that the gap never happened, and that gap theorists are wrong, the burden of proof lies on your shoulders, sir, to prove your point using scripture.
Hanegraff begins with an insult: the Gap Theory is driven wholly by fear. Such an ascription of motives is arrogant and irrelevant to a coherent discussion. Second point is more insult, more ascription of motives: "The Gap is wholly made up. It's made up out of whole cloth." "It is an ad hoc argument designed to resolve a perceived conflict that doesn't actually exist." Finally, a reasonable proposition: "If you want to find out about the age of the earth, do good science." Consult a ministry founded by a scientist and dedicated to demonstrating how science supports scripture, such as Reasons to Believe.
The Bible says in the Gospel of John thst Satan was a murderer in the beginning. Who did he murderer during those 6 days. According to all YE creation theorist the beginning has to be within the 6 days.
@1:17 I lost interest. If this was his opening argument I'm not interested in hearing his subjective interpretations of scripture. I don't know enough to have an opinion, but can recognize a logical fallacy when I hear one. If anything this would lean me in the direction of GT. SCHOFIELD was an incredible Christian, and I would give him the benefit of the doubt before educating myself. The vast majority of Biblical scholars, and men who's opinions carry tremendous weight claim it's an unbiblical belief. It would appear those with a more fanciful interpretation of scripture (hybrid humans, believe Enoch is canon) tend to be in the Gap camp. I'll be back on a few days to edit this comment once I complete a technical analysis to determine its authenticity; or lack there of.
How do you know it's false? Can you prove it? of course not. It's only a theory based on pure conjectures. The narrative does not provides details and therefore open for speculations.
@hamcard The gap theory is an illegitimate doctrinal innovation imposed on the text. Nothing of Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 says billions of years from the origin of the universe to a ruining of a past creation to a recreation of the current Earth. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ and www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
I'll agree with you that the Scriptures do not give us a timeline of the age of the earth; but I would never rely on the weird sciences that project this today and that tomorrow. I'm not a young earther or old earther as it pertains to man and his discoveries is the earth, I believe that the Scriptures point to previous generations out earth (No I'm not talking about humanity), for another example theologians, Bible scholars suppose or propose that in Genesis chapter 1 it says and all the host of heaven included angels yet the angels were never mentioned. And from further study in the Bible there are many different categories of created spiritual beings. Generally speaking the rebellion of Lucifer had to take place in a very short span of time in Genesis chapter 3. It is hard to add that up.
@jeffgray6291 correct. We never need to try to impose time gaps in the Scriptures to account for the age of the Earth. Then again, the Scriptures never commit anyone to a young Earth or an old Earth position. The age questions falls into the realm of the book of nature. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/book-nature/
@@BibleAnswerMan I listen to a lot of content, I'm not one who is trying to age the earth, simply stated I believe that the Bible suggests that there could be a gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. And I base that on the other Scriptures that are in the Bible, the book of Job, book of Isaiah and the fact that GOD never tell us when He created the angelic race. The fossil records are what they are, ie Gobekli Tempi among all the other, I don't care much about the geologic digs, yes they're interesting and intriguing but I don't base my thinking of much of that, simply stated I believe that the Bible suggests it.
@bookofrelief1109 - please explain. How is Hank misrepresenting the gap theory? What so-called "red herrings" are being thrown out to detract from the issue?
@@BibleAnswerMan he said it was stared by certain theologians, Scofield etc….straw-man……he said it was made up to suit science of geology etc…..red herring.
Yeah, he does a terrible job. I would've started with the definition of the words; form: to make or cause to exist, to shape (God formed man vs 2:7) and void: empty vacant, not occupied with visible matter (a strongs search of void reveals that the Bible uses void to describe something that is empty, or to not exist) #1 thing gap theorists like to do is ignore those words. The BIBLE literally says the world has no shape and no physical matter. The argument should end there, sadly it doesn't because people don't want to apply sound hermeneutics, they just want to believe Christian psyfi. So we move on: Then they go to "created" in vs 21 and say, see God didn't create anything till day 5. Well God does use the word create here to refer to living creatures which He separates from all His other creation. He does use formed throughout the Bible though to refer to man's creation, Rom 9:20, 1 Tim 2:13, Prov 26:10...I can go on as there's over 31 instances. So He uses create here to show that living life needs to be created by a creator. Next we move to "replenish" which is in vs 28. It is a transitive verb, which by definition means, to fill, to stock with numbers, to finish. Why the word "replenish" and not "bring forth abundantly" because God makes the distinction that man is different than all His other creation. So He uses a different word to show the importance He places on man. The idea that a race of fallen angels resided on earth is fanciful and fun, but it makes no sense. Why did God create a world for fallen angels? Why would He flood that world, after he made it for a group of fallen angels, which by there nature were already in sin against God. Flooding that world didn't kill them, so it seems like a pointless punishment. And given that angels aren't man, the earth isn't being refilled when man is created because it was never filled with man. No we can go through 2 peter, Ezekiel, jeremiah, rev 21 and all the rest and show how the verses have been twisted, but what's the point. If you reject that biblically sound hermeneutics, then nothing I can say will show you how crazy the argument is. I would just say, preach Jesus and the power of His atoning blood. It's all that really matters. God will set one of us straight someday soon, we can only hope. 🙏 God Bless and receive the word with all readiness of mind and search it.
It is because God is not going to glorify anything Lucifer does he's not going to tell you what sins he committed that way you don't commit them he's not going to tell you what he was doing so you don't attempt to do those things he gives you enough information about your enemy to know to be vigilant of him to know his devices but other than that he doesn't want you to know anything that Lucifer does cuz it is evil and wicked
Amen to that. Sola Scriptura. Sola Fide. Amen "10 But it was the Lord’s good plan to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the Lord’s good plan will prosper in his hands. 11 When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish, he will be satisfied. And because of his experience, my righteous servant will make it possible for many to be counted righteous, for he will bear all their sins. 12 I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier, because he exposed himself to death. He was counted among the rebels. He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels." (Isaiah 53:10-12) NLT Amen.
In to this is is also dumped that men are angels and the “fairness” of God’s actions against who his wrath is subjected, local flood, giants and a catch all for a myriad of bad theology with no systematic discipline! Highest criticism run amok!
I could care less about the conflict of evolution that theory is dead but the gap theory answers a lot of theological questions like the creation of the divine council psalm 82 Deuteronomy 32 and the Bible states in revelation there’s a new heaven and new earth come down on this earth so it has happened in the future too
@user-mv1pn2sv3r Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 refers to human councils, specifically Israelite leaders. These verse have nothing to do with any the discussion at hand. God is their maker. So, the gap story of an unspecified finite period of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 is still an imposition upon the text.
@@BibleAnswerManHello Hank I believe you’re mistaking about it being a human council psalm 89 versus five through seven the sons of God are in the air for more information on that you can check out Dr. Michael Heiser or father Stephen deYoung his podcast is the Lord of spirits he is a Greek orthodox priest their inaugural podcast is on the divine council if you have a good legitimate argument for why you don’t believe that I would like to hear it God bless you and thank you for your work
There is no such thing as a Gap in Creation. People read into a Bible rather than from it. They also haven't got dictionaries to make word studies of the English words they're reading... the Bible wasn't written in English. The context of Gen.1:1 explains itself in V.5b... "And there was evening and there was morning, one day." Is that so hard to comprehend? It is when people are not satisfied with God and think they are Bible exegetes so to reframe his Word to their limited thinking ability. Nonetheless, the age of the universe is found in Holy Scripture if you're capable and patient to do the homework to learn it. If not, you banish yourself to a darkness you yourself created.
@Mike Myers In Genesis 1:28, the Hebrew verb wəkibšuhā [וְכִבְשֻׁ֑הָ] is a command to “subdue” or “dominate.” ESV, NASB, NRSV, NKJV, & CSB read “subdue.” Adam and Eve were to tend and cultivate the Earth and all the creatures because they were endowed with the Image of God. The KJV is off in rendering the verb “replenish.” Additional problems with gap mythology is dealt with in this article www.equip.org/articles/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
@@BibleAnswerManyou can't use modern Bible versions to support your use of the Hebrew language. The KJV specifically uses the word "replenish" - מָלָא Transliterated: mālā Pronounced: May - lah
The reasons posited in this video are weak. The argument that the Bible does not implicitly mention a gap in time in the beginning is disingenuous at best, seeing as that we don't have a lot of details about a lot of things that took place, yet we just know them to be true. We know Jesus had a childhood between His birth and the time we see Him in the temple at the age of 12. We know he had things going on in His life between the age of 12, and the start of His ministry, but the Bible is mum about the details of His childhood. We don't have details about every single moment of His life, but it doesn't mean nothing happened during that time, simply because it's not covered in scripture. We don't have details about every single living creature God created, but we know it happened because they exist. To my knowledge, dinosaurs aren't in the Bible, but we have found their fossil remains, so we know they roamed the earth once upon a time. We don't have any information really, in the Bible, about other peoples and cultures that existed on the Earth during the Biblical times, but we find evidence of their existence throughout history. We do, however, have glimpses into what transpired in the very beginning when Satan fell, and took a third of the angels with him. In Luke 10:18, Jesus says He saw satan fall like lightning from heaven. That happened in the beginning. Lucifer was created with the rest of the angels, prior to the existence of the Earth and prior to the existence of Adam and Eve. Job 38:4-7 NKJV [4] “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. [5] Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? [6] To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, [7] When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?" The sons of God were the angels. Lucifer started out as a "good" angel, and scripture talks about his beauty, etc. Lucifer means star of the morning, light bearer or bringer of light. So he was there from the beginning, before the Earth was ever created. Satan had already fallen when Adam and Eve were created, hence him tempting Eve, and telling her that she and Adam can be like God if they eat the forbidden fruit. Remember that Satan also wanted to be like God in the beginning. Ezekiel 28:12-17 tells us of the fall of Satan. This all happened before Adam and Eve were on the Earth. [12] “Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “You were the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. [13] You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created. [14] “You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones. [15] You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you. [16] “By the abundance of your trading You became filled with violence within, And you sinned; Therefore I cast you as a profane thing Out of the mountain of God; And I destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the fiery stones. [17] “Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor; I cast you to the ground, I laid you before kings, That they might gaze at you." There are more scriptures than this that support a "gap theory", but you have to rightly divide the word. You have to use discernment.
God created us the way he did is so He could communicate with us in a manner we understand. His revealed and inspired Word has not changed, but our understanding of everything else He has created has increased. As our understanding increases, we find new understanding and agreement from His Word. Gap Theorists simply are presenting a different understanding from scripture that happens to align with science more than before.
Reason number 1 is simply false. While maybe true for some proponents, it's certainly not true for all, so to say "wholly" is simply a lie and disingenuous. The gap could've been only 100 years or 1000 years, in which case it would still be a young earth. My belief in a gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 has nothing to do with the age of the universe, science, geology or evolutionists. It's because of the overwhelming scriptural evidence, which I'll present to refute reason 2. Reason number 2 is also false. It is not wholly made up out of cloth. You say there is no mention of a gap anywhere in scripture, but then at 4:27, you say that humanity is creations crowning jewel. I could argue that there is no mention of us being creations crowning jewel anywhere in scripture. Or perhaps you drew that conclusion from indirect scriptural evidence just like those of us who believe in a gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. In Genesis 1, every single day starts with "And God said" and ends with "and the evening and the morning..." That scriptural pattern puts the start of day 1 in Genesis 1:3. In Genesis 1:2, the condition of the Earth is without form and void, with darkness upon the face of the deep. The Earth is said to be without form and void and the heavens without light (darkness) one other time in scripture, Jeremiah 4:23. In the context of that verse it's due to God's judgment (His fierce anger, Jeremiah 4:26). So there is scriptural evidence supporting an Earth without form and void with darkness in relation to God's judgment. When did Satan and his angels fall? It's not revealed in scripture. Regardless of your stance, you have to place their fall somewhere between Genesis 1 and 2 (before the serpent/Satan shows up in Gen. 3). What about their creation? Well, notice Job 38:4-7, Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Notice how the morning stars and sons of God (angels) shouted for joy WHEN (not after) God laid the foundations of the earth. When God was in the process of creating the earth, they already existed. And then there's 2 Peter 3:3-7. in verses 4-5, Peter mentions that the scoffers are ignorant concerning the beginning of the creation (in saying "all things continue as they WERE from the beginning," Genesis 1:1) and mentions that the heavens (plural) WERE of old AND the earth standing out of the water and in the water. That is the condition of the earth in Genesis 1:2, NOT the flood of Noah's time. Read verses 6 and 7 VERY carefully. Verse 6 says "the world (not the earth) that then was, being overflowed with water, perished." That world includes the heavens and earth mentioned in verse 5. The next verse (7) makes that clear: "But the HEAVENS and the EARTH, which are now (as opposed to the heavens and the earth which were), by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." Then Peter mentions the promise of new heavens and a new earth in verse 13 (once again making a distinction between our current heavens and earth). The flood in Noah's time covered the Earth and didn't affect the heavens (plural). When the waters receded and Noah came out of the ark, it was the same Earth and heavens. The entire world didn't perish: Not Noah, his sons, their wives nor all the creatures in the ark with them. In fact, the giants didn't perish either (compare Genesis 6:4 with Deuteronomy 3:11 & Numbers 13:33). By this point, the evidence should be overwhelming. Reason number 3 is honestly irrelevant to the argument. The argument of whether or not "created" and "made" can be interchangeable doesn't prove or disprove the gap.
@jimmie_g ~ Nothing in your litany of “proof texts” proves an unspecified finite time period between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ and www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
@@BibleAnswerMan I present verse after verse with explanation after explanation, reasoning from the scriptures like Paul did in Acts 17:2 and your reply is a simple, shallow statement without one single rebuttal for all the evidence I provided. Before I click your links, read my comment again and kindly provide reasons and explanations of WHY the specific verses I provided prove nothing. Be a "Berean" (Acts 17:10-11) and search the scriptures to see if these things are so, and if not, let me know how/why they are not so similar to how Aquila and Priscilla did with Apollos in Acts 18:24-26.
Lol. This guy doesn’t even pass muster to convince me otherwise. He doesn’t provide scriptures to support debunk, after all he says to “do good science” and “don’t appeal to scripture”. Last I check Satan twisted scriptures in his futile attempt to tempt Jesus, and what does Jesus do? He appeals to scripture. Like Jesus said to Peter, get behind me Satan.
This guy should call himself the bible opinion man, or just the opinion man. Do good science but dont appeal to scripture? What happened to "let God be true but every man a liar"? Read Exodus 20:11, For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM, and rested the seventh day"
Hank...you still haven't explained where the darkness came from in Genesis Chapter 1, and verse 2. Your postulating sounds very authoritative and flowery and all, but it doesn't amount to a hill of beans. How about Isaiah 14:12-21 and Ezekiel 28:12-19...how does that fit in? Doesn't scripture count at all to you? Seems like Jeremiah 4:23 is attempting to ring a bell in someone's belfry. These passages actually mean something, and I don't think God is just filling in the blanks to just take up space. Isaiah 45:18 is making a point about Genesis 1:2, that fits this subject, and deserves a hearing. Gaps are found in the Bible in many places...what Bible are you reading? How about the gap found in Daniel concerning the seventy weeks? How about the gap found between the 1st coming of Jesus and the 2nd coming? Your reasoning is faulty...makes no sense. Of course, you teach that the 2nd coming came at 70 A.D. which is completely false. Sorry, but you lost me on this one.
@MichaelAndrews-uy1gl Darkness in Gensis 1:2 is simply the absence of light. The waters were chaotic and darkened like the stormy sea at night. This sets up God’s declaration, “Let there be light.” We need not think a prior cataclysm had taken place that resulted in the formless void darkness. Rather, from nothing, the very absence of light, God brought forth light. See www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/ and www.equip.org/bible_answers/gaps-genealogies-genesis/
This man does NOT know scripture... The Bible does tell us that there is a gap between Gen 1 & 2..... Its fact.. Its amazing how he uses mans theology NOT the Bible to prove his flawed theology... Learn scripture before you misled people..
@@BibleAnswerMan Simple.. Study isaiah, Job, and many other chapters.. The Bible does NOT tell us how old the earth is but it does tell us about satans fall which happened BEFORE Adams creation. The Bible is clear that there was a civilation on earth in the original Garden of Eden the one before Adam & Eve.... Gen 1: 2 is a judgement because of satans fall... Scripture tells us that God created a perfect earth and universe as in Gen 1:1 and in Isa 45:18. ILike I said I could go on for volumes.. I sugest to you that you start studying the Bible not mans interprutations.. God bless Vic
For further reading on the so-called gap theory, see www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ and www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
“Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”
Job 38:4-7 KJV
You need to do more research sir.
I'm on the fence on this issue because the people for the gap can point to scriptures in Ezekiel, Isaiah, etc. that make this possible. People trying to refute will not look at this.
This was very weak and only meant to persuade without regard to truth
Most people that have really studied it look to the meaning of the Hebrew. Hank completely avoids the true meaning of the Hebrew. That is where the argument really is. I'd be happy to talk more with you about it.
@@mattprater8828 Ok
Yea this video is so weak
Weak arguments on hank’s part
Matt Prater So what you are implying is that you cannot see this doctrine in the English translation. That’s similar to what the Roman Catholic Church does with Scripture. Very Dangerous.
I always figured that God created Adam as an adult, an active functioning individual. As such, I figured that the world was created as active and functioning, given the appearance of age by its activity, such as a river which has depth already instead of being carved out over the years by natural water. So ya, it makes sense that the earth scientifically appears aged, because that is how it was created.
Yes, good point, i've thought the same. But i guess as humans and especially scientific intellects have to think logical to try and understand something. For example, they will say a light from a star in another galaxy will reach the earth approx 500M LY. But who says God has to work that way, why do they limit God's power to their human capacity?
Agree... that's why I can answer, when asked, the chicken came before the egg
@@jeffebdy Correct. Also as stated in Genesis the earth was made before the Sun, moon and stars. In other words, the atheistic Big Bang theory to explain how the Universe came about is totally false and anti-Biblical.
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Omg u r right. I couldve fallen for this theory. Well thought. ♥
The difficulty with doing science to determine the age of the earth is that science relies on the assumption of uniformitarianism.
The Bible however presents a very stark discontinuity between the pre- and post- fall eras, suggesting that uniformitarianism will lead to misleading answers.
@LostsTVandRadio Are there not universal constants? Gravity? Speed of light? Can logic be trusted? Basic reliability of sense perception? Cause and effect? None of these can be trusted?
I would certainly hold that logic can be trusted absolutely. Many of the 'universal constants' can be trusted but within certain parameters, and that's the issue.
Earth scientists rely on natural chronometers, and the interpretation of the observable data in turn relies upon the assumption of uniformitarianism. The most common chronometer is radiometric dating and the interpretation of this requires a number of other assumptions too, all of which can potentially be flawed. My first theological question would be this - before sin entered the world was there any decay (radioactive or otherwise) or were isotopes stable?
Concerning the speed of light, it does of course vary by medium. Gravity is barely understood - is it the effect of the bending of space-time by mass, is it mediated graviton particles or perhaps both? Certainly its effects are quite well documented but we await any significant progress towards a unified field theory.
Cause and effect are also problematic in that by using a naturalistic reductionist (scientific) approach no room is allowed for an agent outside of space and time.
So as a Cambridge-trained earth scientist myself I would always caution against being too swept away by the 'certainties' of pop science.
@@BibleAnswerMan
"Genesis was never intended to give us a chronology in the first place".
It's a view that is often posited, but it's a huge presupposition!
He lost me when he said "do good science, but don't appeal to scripture"...I suppose science will also tell us all about salvation as well. Yea...right.
The Bible and science are two separate categories. Neither of them oppose the other. But neither of them can totally inform you of the other either. They only overlap in some areas at best.
Where are your Bible verses to back up your argument? I have quite a few to back the validity of the gap theory
Right? He didn’t really prove anything just used some circular reasoning to bring up theoretical arguments
@Harvey Hamlett Generally the verses are taken out of context and used as pretext for the purported gap of time.
See the following articles >
www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/
www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
The problem with the gap theory is that it does exactly what the Bible says not to do: take away from or add to the Word of God. Once we do that, we're opening a can of worm that can't be closed.
The gap theory doesn’t take away or add anything, because it’s not a theory get out of you religion/tradition and God will reveal it to you as well. Secondly your taking the add and take away portion of scripture out of context, that passage/warning is talking specifically about the book of Revelation that’s why it’s does not appear anywhere else. Thridly YH TEACHES IN 2 Timothy 2:15 that in order to understand scripture you will have to rightly divide the word meaning to take away and add why because in the Greek language alone the word love has 5 different words with five different meanings, in English Love is one word with one meaning.
But we can’t ignore that books were left out of the Bible in the Reformation period by Man.
If there was no gap, when did Satan fall. At the time of Adam and Eve, he had fallen already and was in the garden.
@@pierrelightfoot2669this is one of the reasons why one should at the very least consider gap theory. There’s a few things that can’t be explained with no gap that can’t just go ignored.
If the angels tasked with protecting the garden were armed with flaming swords and satan and the angels hadn’t fallen yet, what was significant enough to warrant armed angels.
The point about if God didn’t mention it, it didn’t happen is likewise valid (at least due in part of it being so widely taught and accepted) but now I question if that mentality is derived from misunderstanding and misinterpretation.
Do your own research. Does anyone believe a roughly 6 minute video can address the full nature of Gap Theology?
Of course not, because the theory itself is so convoluted in its attempts to coincide with worldly notions of our origins that it tramples over the simplicity of what scripture plainly states of itself.
The Gap Fact plays no part in explaining scientific "clues" to the age of the earth.
Yeah, 6 minutes is not enough, neither is only 3 reasons not to believe it. I mean how long did Satan live before he thought he could be like the Most High? Thousands of years or only a couple of days?
Satan fell by saying 5 things. One of those 5 is that he will be seated above the stars of God. The stars were not even created until day 4th day.
He was also called the son of the morning. Morning didn't exist until God created light and divided it from the darkness on the 1st day.
Maybe these people who come up with this stuff are just bored.
No but I also don’t believe that a whole book can be written about something that is not in the bible
I wonder what Tertullian and Origen would think of people not giving them credit for expressing ideas very similar to Gap Theology.
You haven’t changed my mind on gap theory; I most certainly still believe it. That being said, I really appreciate this video because it has forced me to think about my position. Great work.
There is no such thing as a Gap in Creation. People read into a Bible rather than from it. They also haven't got dictionaries to make word studies of the English words they're reading... the Bible wasn't written in English. The context of Gen.1:1 explains itself in V.5b... "And there was evening and there was morning, one day." Is that so hard to comprehend? It is when people are not satisfied with God and think they are Bible exegetes so to reframe his Word to their limited thinking ability. Nonetheless, the age of the universe is found in Holy Scripture if you're capable and patient to do the homework to learn it. If not, you banish yourself to a darkness you yourself created.
@@oldmanjoe6808 the age of the universe is not found in Holy Scripture, so that's a false statement. No amount of homework will yield the answer, only a "guesstimate" at best. That's why just about every Christian says "6000 years." A nice round number. Not 5976, not 6024. The gap doesn't have to be read into the Bible and CAN be formed from indirect, scriptural evidence. You say that "the context of Gen.1:1 explains itself in V.5b" yet fail to realize that EVERY single day in Genesis 1 starts with "And God said" and ends with "and the evening and the morning..." That scriptural pattern puts the start of day 1 in Genesis 1:3, not 1:1. In Genesis 1:2, the condition of the Earth is without form and void, with darkness upon the face of the deep. The Earth is said to be without form and void and the heavens without light (darkness) one other time in scripture, Jeremiah 4:23. In the context of that verse it's due to God's judgment (His fierce anger, Jeremiah 4:26). So there is scriptural evidence supporting an Earth without form and void with darkness in relation to God's judgment. When did Satan and his angels fall? It's not revealed in scripture. Regardless of your stance, you have to place their fall somewhere between Genesis 1 and 2 (before the serpent/Satan shows up in Gen. 3). What about their creation? Well, notice Job 38:4-7,
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Notice how the morning stars and sons of God (angels) shouted for joy WHEN (not after) God laid the foundations of the earth. When God was in the process of creating the earth, they already existed.
And then there's 2 Peter 3:3-7. in verses 4-5, Peter mentions that the scoffers are ignorant concerning the beginning of the creation (in saying "all things continue as they WERE from the beginning") and mentions that the heavens (plural) WERE of old AND the earth standing out of the water and in the water. That is the condition of the earth in Genesis 1:2, NOT the flood of Noah's time. Read verses 6 and 7 VERY carefully. Verse 6 says "the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished." That world includes the heavens and earth mentioned in verse 5. The next verse (7) makes that clear: "But the HEAVENS and the EARTH, which are now (as opposed to the heavens and earth which were), by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." Then Peter mentions the promise of new heavens and a new earth in verse 13 (once again making a distinction between our current heavens and earth). The flood in Noah's time covered the Earth and didn't affect the heavens (plural). When the waters receded and Noah came out of the ark, it was the same Earth and heavens. The entire world didn't perish: Not Noah, his sons, their wives nor all the creatures in the ark with them. In fact, the giants didn't perish either (compare Genesis 6:4 with Deuteronomy 3:11 & Numbers 13:33). By this point, the evidence should be overwhelming.
The only thing this video prooved is that wearing a Mr. Roger's sweater and a pair of glasses doesn't make you wise.
The gap is actually easier to believe than Christians going around saying the earth (and the cosmos) is 6k years old...and yes, I'm a Christian. Ask them to explain how we can capture light coming from galaxies billions of miles away, they start making silly counter arguments against people like Einstein and Steven Hawkins. Yes, Einstein...the man who came up with E=MC2
Hmm...something CLEARLY happened before Adam got here bc none if this is recorded in Genesis...Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Job 38:4-7 KJV
That would be the creation of the earth in 6 days he's referring to
You went off the tracks years ago. Your show should be called, Bible MY answers are the only correct man
Wether there was a gap or not is not relevant and not important to our salvation and strengthening of our relationship with God.
Gap Theory is just that, a theory that cannot be proven and, therefore cannot be false. There are some of us who are more curious, which is okay, and we want to understand the bible in depth. There is no denying something happened between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. Based on what I heard from multiple apologists, the conclusion I reached is the gap is not millions of years, but more like tens of thousands of years.
@Bigeinla but any gap of unspecified finite time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 is forced. But, yes, theories proposed about how such can be are unfalsifiable.
I agree that something did indeed happen between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. Also, the gap of time could even be as little as 200 or 500 years. It need not be in the thousands, even for the theory to be correct.
Some can't even agree on whether or not the seven days were seven literal, 24 hour days, or each day being 1,000 years.
I personally subscribe to the idea that it was seven literal days.
Mental gymnastics are not necessary in order for the gap theory to be true and accurate. There are plenty of verses and passages throughout the Bible that support it. A six minute video isn't a sufficient enough time to thoroughly cover this topic.
People always miss the most salient point of the fall.
Adam and eve were cast OUT of the garden.
The place we are now, is not where Adam and Eve were created.
Once you grasp that FACT all kinds of possibilities open up.
Very weak arguments that ignore scriptures that would support the gap theory. False motivations implied to gap theorists. I could hardly conceive that this was a serious effort to convince anybody that the gap theory was wrong.
I was with you until you said we can't find the age of the earth from the Bible, what what what?
Hank addresses the age of the earth in the following…
www.equip.org/bible_answers/young-world/
www.equip.org/bible_answers/universe-created/
www.equip.org/bible_answers/genesis-creation-days-literal-long-literary/
www.equip.org/bible_answers/god-create-handiwork-appearance-age/
www.equip.org/bible_answers/exegetical-liabilities-twenty-four-hour-view/
The implications here for mankind's place in history haven't been mentioned yet but are rather significant. Supposing the hard stop in Hebrew between 1.1 into 1.2, where the created earth is described as "laid to waste" and in "ruin" means that this is simply the manner in which God chose to create our planet ... well it's an odd choice of both words and/or engineering, but it tells us that He's done all that He has, just for us. We are indeed the first-love darling of creation! If however, one considers that a King of Tyre-type figure, who was created blameless as a guardian cherub until he lifted his head in rebellion and was hence reduced to "ashes on earth" (Ezekiel 28) ... well then, maybe a previously perfect earth was initially made for another people, prince or purpose? In which case, we might just be part of an even more incredible story ... of this folly being played out with our stepping in as lowly but eligible heirs in place of a disgraced usurper, playing out the final days of his own self-indictment and looking to discredit mankind in the process. No fear or science here, just questions about scripture to consider 🙏 Thanks goes to the late Dr. Donald Barnhouse for his book "The Invisible War" and the spirit-filled insights shared for understanding.
The words in 1:2 are "UNFORMED" and "VOID"
@@tigertian1251 "tohu wabohu" might be more accurate .. there lies our work in being diligent to better understand.
When did Satan fall? In Ezekiel 28 what is happening? Where is the mountain of congregation?
We know Satan (i.e. the Dragon, the Devil or the Serpent) was present in Eden to deceive Eve per divine revelation received by John per Rev. 12:9; 20:2. Nothing in Revelation tells of the exact moment of Satan’s fall.
Ezekiel 28 is speaking directly about the king of Tyre, but he is likened to the cherub who fell. The cherub was present in Eden but gives no exact moment of the fall.
Did Satan fall prior or subsequent or simultaneous with the creation of the universe? Did Satan fall prior or subsequent or simultaneous with the creation of Adam and Eve and the planting of Eden?Not specified.
@@BibleAnswerMan how long was Adam in Eden before the fall?
@@BibleAnswerMan In Jeremiah 4:23 God is referencing Genesis 1. God goes on to say that this old earth age was destroyed in Jeremiah 4:24 to 4:26. Many academics consider Dr. E.W. Bullinger to be perhaps the most esteemed Biblical scholar. Dr. Bullinger also said that Jeremiah 4:23 is referencing Genesis 1, and talking about an earth age that was destroyed by God's anger as stipulated in Jeremiah 4:26.
The problem with your theory is Job 38 starts creation with the first rock. The corner stone. Your Interpretation of Genesis starts the earth as a ball of water. Either there's a gap or a contradiction.
The problem is how did Lucifer creation and fall take less than a week and then tempt Eve within like less then one day, before she could be fruitful and multiply.
@tonyrossi3151 Where did you get that chronology?
Nicely done Hank. Many thanks. Those who believe in a gap theory are making a mockery of our Lord when He said “But from the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female.” Mark 10:6. He is all powerful so He could have made everything in an instant but chose to do it the way it’s outlined in Genesis and Exodus. It makes no sense to refer to it as “the beginning of the creation” if there were billions or even just millions or thousands of years before the creation of mankind as expressed by the various gap theories. So, Jesus is most definitely claiming that the world cannot have existed for very long prior to Adam and Eve compared to the time elapsed between their making and the time of Jesus here on earth some 2,000 years ago from our time.
Very superficial and misses a lot of other important details. Disregard his words.
Very limited understanding of genesis first and second chapter.
Ignore the fact that the earth had to be replenished. When god said there should be light he wasn't talking about about light from the sun.
He was talking about John 1:1
Not convincing nice try.
I don't know if the gap theory is true or false and since it is not a salvation isuue, I really don't care that much. I will say this though. We know in the end God creates a new earth. That's 2 earths. Doesn't God typically work in 3's? It could also explain the challenges presented regarding dinosaurs and the fossil record which have a distinct break in time.
My research and study of the bible and scripture lead me to my own conclusion that there is a huge Gap between Gen 1 and Gen 2. Therefore your point is weak and not applicable re the 2 main proponents you first mention. Your fist point you make about Gap theory being driven by fear of "New Scientific Discoveries" is also completely false. I have zero fear of such things.
You are so ignorant it’s disgusting you cannot read the Bible and then find a gap between genesis one and two! The earth is not millions of years old and yes science proves this true pure science!
@@artifacthunter1472 You don't act like a Christian based on your vile attack on my character so I'm going to assume you are just an internet troll.
@Charles Payton Thank you for a logical, well thought out comment. This is an important subject in my opinion and open dialog like this is very beneficial to helping us to grow and better understand the word of God and our role on in the World. Correctly understanding time frames is also key to understanding what is being talked about in other sections of scripture. This in turn helps us better serve God and share his word by being able to answer hard questions atheists raise, such as: Did Cain marry his sister (implying incest) or was the earth populated with "Man"at that time (which it was as God had already populated the earth in Gen 1:26).
None of the early church fathers would agree with you. When will you or anyone that adheres to this ridiculous notion understand you are trying to fit the Word of God into the secular atheistic understandings of our origins. You are following man rather than God in regard to what the Word states of itself, choosing the wisdom of man over Faith in what God stated of Himself. First this then what? You will be the same as the Catholics that adhere to darwinistic evolution as well, what a shame to reject the Word of God for a lie, you only hurt yourself going down this road.
@@ricoparadiso Tell that to Tertullian and Origen.
I'm not a fan of the SRB, but I'm not convinced buy this video. What about the lucifer history problem? He didn't bother to mention it.
What problem?
What was Peter saying when he said in 2nd Peter chapter 3 verse 5 speaking about the old earth when it was half in water and half out of water. This is not speaking of Noah’s flood because Noah’s flood was global. Also where did demons come from because God did not created evil spirits. Just a couple of Questions. Please explain
“Earth was formed out of water & through water” meaning the earth itself was made by water, and through that water it was then formed(land etc.) Noahs flood is in verse 6.
And Demons are angels that rebelled along with Satan at the time of the fall.
@@ricoparadiso yes but that doesn’t answer my question, Noah’s flood was a global flood. Peter in 2nd Peter chapter 3 verse 5 Peter is speaking of a time when the earth was half in water and half out of water. Peter is clearly speaking of a different event that had taking place.
Lucifer was the angel God put in charge of the earth and the universe before God created mankind. Lucifer has done something at that time which then God Judged Lucifer and those other angels this is when they fell.
@@ricoparadiso no Rico there’s a difference between fallen angels and demon spirits
@Robert ~ Peter is condensing (telescoping or summarizing) Gen 1-11. The earth formed out of water (2 Pet. 3:5) alludes to Genesis 1 along with Psalm 24:2 and 136:6. The world that perish by water (2 Pet. 3:6) alludes to the deluge in Noah’s day.
Wrong... Personal opion is NOT Biblical..This is your personal opinion..... The Bible teaches Gap Fact.. Learn & know your Bible..Learn what create and made mean...
Gene Kim better explains why the Gap Theory is correct. There's no ad hominen attacks or any other fallacies. Just interpretation and misinterpretation.
Yes and Gene Kim is great at misinterpreting scripture.
Gene Kim has some satanic theories.
The Asian dude with a white board that echoes secular "bible scholars" in saying YHWY is a pagan diety/dragon. He was very little discernment.
This guy has no ideal what he is talking about!
True
wow nice rebuttal
I disagree, 2nd Peter 3:5 is speaking of a old earth
Does it?
@@warren88olen37 It sure does and Jeremiah 4:23 is referencing Genesis 1, and through verses 24, 25, 26 God tells us that this old world was destroyed because of his fierce anger.
@@gskessingerable and why wouldnt this be noahs flood
@@gskessingerable Oh right this was talking about the judgment to come if they did not repent. It was a warning. It has nothing to do with Genesis other than a warning. It is one of those reaches by the gap theorists. It does not mean God destroyed the earth but that God can turn things back to how they were. Does this passage ever say God destroyed things back then? No. If God had recreated the earth then why not say recreated instead of created.. The gap theory goes against the word of God, Sorry but there is no biblical evidence. People WANT to believe this for some reason but it is not biblical.
@@gskessingerable Have you ever listened to non gappers interpretations of this verse or more so chapter?
Recently heard about the Gap Theory, just wondering about the creation before Adam and Eve, do they believe that that creation was created sinless and perfect, do they believe that there was sin there the whole time. Thank you.
@PaulStewart - The gist of your question is dealt with in the video.
The gap theory is an illegitimate doctrinal imposition upon the biblical text. It is a failed attempt to resolve the biblical text with the geological evidence for an old earth. No exegetically justifiable reason to read a finite but extensive period of time between any of the verses in Genesis 1. See these articles www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ and www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
The following is a better understanding of how to account for the fall of Adam resulting in natural evil in light of nature being red in tooth and claw prior to the emergence of modern humans. > www.equip.org/article/old-earth-creationism-and-the-fall/
@@BibleAnswerMan thank you for your response, a lot of what you guys talked about, words and phrases go right over my head, I believe in a literal Six-Day creation, just wondering what they believed about that first race of people before Adam and Eve, how they justify a pre Adam race of people, there's enough great and awesome stuff in the Bible to spend your time on, and keep a Christian busy without speculating about things that aren't in the Bible.
@@BibleAnswerMan Hello, currently exploring the Gap Theory (fact). If there was not a gap, then does that mean that Satan fell after Adam and Eve were created? If so, then why did he tempt them in the garden?
@@paulstewart6203 the inhabitants of the
Pre- Adamic world were Angelic, not of human kind.... Adam was created whole, sinless , until the fall. Angel's we're sinless until Satan fell
@@edwardtelles1956 thanks for the response, the only time I ever heard this Theory referred to, they specifically mentioned "a race of people, before Adam and Eve"
Do good science.. dont appeal to scripture... thats all i need to hear to know this guy isnt with the holy spirit
You're on the wrong side of this Mr Bible Answer Man....
Jeremiah 4:23-26 is pretty clear bro.
Jeremiah 4:23-26 is not about the creation but the undoing of creation, which describes the utter destruction apostate Judah would experience for forsaking their covenant with Yahweh. The creation imagery from Genesis 1 is reversed in Jeremiah 4. No gap theory in Jeremiah.
See www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ and www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
@@BibleAnswerMan what lol. Genesis 1 was already an undoing of a creation. Without form and void. We know God don’t create in vain and he created this world to be inhabited (Isaiah 45:18. In Hebrew form and void is chaos or judgement. I’m sure you know the terms. So you have no evidence that Jeremiah 4:23-27 is different. Judah got overthrown by Babylon for their acts. Jeremiah is there while they are already in captivity. So your interpretation of that is wrong lol. You literally just making up stuff with no backbone. Who you think you are? I’m comparing scriptures while you are throwing stuff in the air from no sources as if we are suppose to trust you before the Bible.
But you are totally wrong because Bible says at Isaiah 45:18, God created earth 🌎 habitable, ready to live at Genesis 1:1.
Don't run after science, it will make you mad man some day.
Instead read your Bible properly and it will lead you to peace and life.
But what about the fall of Satan? Did he "physically" fall from the Heavens?
@biblicus8204 Satan is a noncorporeal being and special language never directly applies, special language such as an object falling downwards to the ground. Rather, Satan’s fall is a fall from a right relationship to God. It is because of Satan’s rebellion that upon his own accord he persists in opposing God and the things of God. When we say, "I sinned and fell away from God," we do not mean we are physically laying on the ground somewhere; rather, we men that we have transgressed against the Lord in some way, like disobeyed a commandment, and that we are resistant to coming alongside God and experiencing life with God, making His plans and purposes our plans and purposes. The same problem with Satan. Satan rejects God, and opposes all of God's plans and purposes for the creation, particularly the angelic heavenly host.
Hank...I misrepresented you on my last comment the other day...please accept my apology. I stated that you were a proponent of preterism, and that you believed that Jesus returned in 70 A.D. However, I was mistaken because of a radio broadcast, where you were answering questions about preterism a few years ago. I now realize that you are a partial preterist/idealist, in which you are looking for the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ at a future time. I recognize you as a brother in Christ, and felt it was only right to correct this error.
@MichaelAndrews-uy1gl No problem.
the bible tell us everything, time age matter otherwise is not perfect, your argument is weak without looking into other verses
scripture proof please not just your thoughts. thank you
@E Good question. Only the biblical illiterates will read Genesis 1 and imagine an long gap of unspecified but finite amount of time duration between verse 1 and verse 2. No other passage in the Bible hints at this.
The one who embraces gap theory certainly has to answer your comment: "scripture proof please not just your thoughts."
Thank you
@@BibleAnswerMan
Genesis 1:2
“And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Here's one of many verses ..Darkness , no where in the bible is darkness likened to creation or good. Isaiah 45:18 God created the earth not in vain but to be inhabited.
That is just the prelude to the creative declaration "Let there be light." No time gap suggested. See the articles... www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ and www.equip.org/articles/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
@BibleAnswerMan many have provided scripture that supports the gap theory.
What basis do you have, based on scripture, that gap theorists are wrong? Since you are the one making the statement that the gap never happened, and that gap theorists are wrong, the burden of proof lies on your shoulders, sir, to prove your point using scripture.
Hanegraff begins with an insult: the Gap Theory is driven wholly by fear.
Such an ascription of motives is arrogant and irrelevant to a coherent discussion.
Second point is more insult, more ascription of motives: "The Gap is wholly made up. It's made up out of whole cloth."
"It is an ad hoc argument designed to resolve a perceived conflict that doesn't actually exist."
Finally, a reasonable proposition: "If you want to find out about the age of the earth, do good science."
Consult a ministry founded by a scientist and dedicated to demonstrating how science supports scripture, such as Reasons to Believe.
The Bible says in the Gospel of John thst Satan was a murderer in the beginning. Who did he murderer during those 6 days. According to all YE creation theorist the beginning has to be within the 6 days.
@1:17 I lost interest. If this was his opening argument I'm not interested in hearing his subjective interpretations of scripture. I don't know enough to have an opinion, but can recognize a logical fallacy when I hear one. If anything this would lean me in the direction of GT. SCHOFIELD was an incredible Christian, and I would give him the benefit of the doubt before educating myself. The vast majority of Biblical scholars, and men who's opinions carry tremendous weight claim it's an unbiblical belief. It would appear those with a more fanciful interpretation of scripture (hybrid humans, believe Enoch is canon) tend to be in the Gap camp. I'll be back on a few days to edit this comment once I complete a technical analysis to determine its authenticity; or lack there of.
Check out the free book (The Gap Fact )it is online as pdf it will answer your questions
How do you know it's false? Can you prove it? of course not. It's only a theory based on pure conjectures. The narrative does not provides details and therefore open for speculations.
@hamcard The gap theory is an illegitimate doctrinal innovation imposed on the text. Nothing of Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 says billions of years from the origin of the universe to a ruining of a past creation to a recreation of the current Earth. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ and www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
This video is a snippet of several long in-depth videos
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Excellent breakdown brother Hanegraaf! Thank you🙏🙏😁😁
Very well explained. Thanks!
he jusymade the argument for the gap… smh…God created old fully formed earth just like adam…read reply counter arguments
I'll agree with you that the Scriptures do not give us a timeline of the age of the earth; but I would never rely on the weird sciences that project this today and that tomorrow. I'm not a young earther or old earther as it pertains to man and his discoveries is the earth, I believe that the Scriptures point to previous generations out earth (No I'm not talking about humanity), for another example theologians, Bible scholars suppose or propose that in Genesis chapter 1 it says and all the host of heaven included angels yet the angels were never mentioned. And from further study in the Bible there are many different categories of created spiritual beings. Generally speaking the rebellion of Lucifer had to take place in a very short span of time in Genesis chapter 3. It is hard to add that up.
@jeffgray6291 correct. We never need to try to impose time gaps in the Scriptures to account for the age of the Earth. Then again, the Scriptures never commit anyone to a young Earth or an old Earth position. The age questions falls into the realm of the book of nature. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/book-nature/
@@BibleAnswerMan I listen to a lot of content, I'm not one who is trying to age the earth, simply stated I believe that the Bible suggests that there could be a gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. And I base that on the other Scriptures that are in the Bible, the book of Job, book of Isaiah and the fact that GOD never tell us when He created the angelic race. The fossil records are what they are, ie Gobekli Tempi among all the other, I don't care much about the geologic digs, yes they're interesting and intriguing but I don't base my thinking of much of that, simply stated I believe that the Bible suggests it.
@@BibleAnswerMan Thanks for sharing the book of nature is interesting and thought provoking, appreciate it.
So you must prefer the day age theory.
@kourmoulis1 No. Totally incorrect. That is not a view Hank prefers. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/progressive-creationism/
@@BibleAnswerMan he's a progressive creationist? That link didn't give a clear answer on his views.
Just watching the first two minutes…I can see you already setting up straw-man and using a red herring 🙄
@bookofrelief1109 - please explain. How is Hank misrepresenting the gap theory? What so-called "red herrings" are being thrown out to detract from the issue?
@@BibleAnswerMan he said it was stared by certain theologians, Scofield etc….straw-man……he said it was made up to suit science of geology etc…..red herring.
@@BibleAnswerMan Did Satan fall before Adam?
Hah. He only has 3 reasons to disprove the Gap Theory. That's because the Gap Theory is True!
Yeah, he does a terrible job.
I would've started with the definition of the words; form: to make or cause to exist, to shape (God formed man vs 2:7) and void: empty vacant, not occupied with visible matter (a strongs search of void reveals that the Bible uses void to describe something that is empty, or to not exist)
#1 thing gap theorists like to do is ignore those words. The BIBLE literally says the world has no shape and no physical matter. The argument should end there, sadly it doesn't because people don't want to apply sound hermeneutics, they just want to believe Christian psyfi.
So we move on:
Then they go to "created" in vs 21 and say, see God didn't create anything till day 5. Well God does use the word create here to refer to living creatures which He separates from all His other creation. He does use formed throughout the Bible though to refer to man's creation, Rom 9:20, 1 Tim 2:13, Prov 26:10...I can go on as there's over 31 instances. So He uses create here to show that living life needs to be created by a creator.
Next we move to "replenish" which is in vs 28. It is a transitive verb, which by definition means, to fill, to stock with numbers, to finish. Why the word "replenish" and not "bring forth abundantly" because God makes the distinction that man is different than all His other creation. So He uses a different word to show the importance He places on man.
The idea that a race of fallen angels resided on earth is fanciful and fun, but it makes no sense. Why did God create a world for fallen angels? Why would He flood that world, after he made it for a group of fallen angels, which by there nature were already in sin against God. Flooding that world didn't kill them, so it seems like a pointless punishment. And given that angels aren't man, the earth isn't being refilled when man is created because it was never filled with man.
No we can go through 2 peter, Ezekiel, jeremiah, rev 21 and all the rest and show how the verses have been twisted, but what's the point. If you reject that biblically sound hermeneutics, then nothing I can say will show you how crazy the argument is. I would just say, preach Jesus and the power of His atoning blood. It's all that really matters. God will set one of us straight someday soon, we can only hope. 🙏 God Bless and receive the word with all readiness of mind and search it.
1 is enough
Babel
It is because God is not going to glorify anything Lucifer does he's not going to tell you what sins he committed that way you don't commit them he's not going to tell you what he was doing so you don't attempt to do those things he gives you enough information about your enemy to know to be vigilant of him to know his devices but other than that he doesn't want you to know anything that Lucifer does cuz it is evil and wicked
Amen to that.
Sola Scriptura. Sola Fide. Amen
"10 But it was the Lord’s good plan to crush him
and cause him grief.
Yet when his life is made an offering for sin,
he will have many descendants.
He will enjoy a long life,
and the Lord’s good plan will prosper in his hands.
11 When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish,
he will be satisfied.
And because of his experience,
my righteous servant will make it possible
for many to be counted righteous,
for he will bear all their sins.
12 I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier,
because he exposed himself to death.
He was counted among the rebels.
He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels."
(Isaiah 53:10-12) NLT
Amen.
In to this is is also dumped that men are angels and the “fairness” of God’s actions against who his wrath is subjected, local flood, giants and a catch all for a myriad of bad theology with no systematic discipline! Highest criticism run amok!
Interesting.
I could care less about the conflict of evolution that theory is dead but the gap theory answers a lot of theological questions like the creation of the divine council psalm 82 Deuteronomy 32 and the Bible states in revelation there’s a new heaven and new earth come down on this earth so it has happened in the future too
@user-mv1pn2sv3r Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 refers to human councils, specifically Israelite leaders. These verse have nothing to do with any the discussion at hand. God is their maker. So, the gap story of an unspecified finite period of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 is still an imposition upon the text.
I love you man I’ll give you a reply later
@@BibleAnswerManHello Hank I believe you’re mistaking about it being a human council psalm 89 versus five through seven the sons of God are in the air for more information on that you can check out Dr. Michael Heiser or father Stephen deYoung his podcast is the Lord of spirits he is a Greek orthodox priest their inaugural podcast is on the divine council if you have a good legitimate argument for why you don’t believe that I would like to hear it God bless you and thank you for your work
Confusing
No it isn't. Just read the Bible for what it says rather than what you want it to say. Let God speak to you.
There is no such thing as a Gap in Creation. People read into a Bible rather than from it. They also haven't got dictionaries to make word studies of the English words they're reading... the Bible wasn't written in English. The context of Gen.1:1 explains itself in V.5b... "And there was evening and there was morning, one day." Is that so hard to comprehend? It is when people are not satisfied with God and think they are Bible exegetes so to reframe his Word to their limited thinking ability. Nonetheless, the age of the universe is found in Holy Scripture if you're capable and patient to do the homework to learn it. If not, you banish yourself to a darkness you yourself created.
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God told Adam to replenish the Earth
Replenish back then meant to fill not to refill. It was early English. This is why some newer versions say fill.
You're wrong. We are told of the old world that was destroyed by God in Jeremiah 4:23, to 4,26. God is referencing Genesis 1, in Jeremiah 4:23.
I'm a flat earther and I still believe in the Gap Theory. Sorry but when you're creating something new, you don't refer to it as ruined
replenish the earth?
@Mike Myers In Genesis 1:28, the Hebrew verb wəkibšuhā [וְכִבְשֻׁ֑הָ] is a command to “subdue” or “dominate.” ESV, NASB, NRSV, NKJV, & CSB read “subdue.” Adam and Eve were to tend and cultivate the Earth and all the creatures because they were endowed with the Image of God. The KJV is off in rendering the verb “replenish.”
Additional problems with gap mythology is dealt with in this article www.equip.org/articles/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
@@BibleAnswerManyou can't use modern Bible versions to support your use of the Hebrew language.
The KJV specifically uses the word "replenish" - מָלָא
Transliterated: mālā
Pronounced: May - lah
The reasons posited in this video are weak.
The argument that the Bible does not implicitly mention a gap in time in the beginning is disingenuous at best, seeing as that we don't have a lot of details about a lot of things that took place, yet we just know them to be true. We know Jesus had a childhood between His birth and the time we see Him in the temple at the age of 12. We know he had things going on in His life between the age of 12, and the start of His ministry, but the Bible is mum about the details of His childhood. We don't have details about every single moment of His life, but it doesn't mean nothing happened during that time, simply because it's not covered in scripture.
We don't have details about every single living creature God created, but we know it happened because they exist.
To my knowledge, dinosaurs aren't in the Bible, but we have found their fossil remains, so we know they roamed the earth once upon a time.
We don't have any information really, in the Bible, about other peoples and cultures that existed on the Earth during the Biblical times, but we find evidence of their existence throughout history.
We do, however, have glimpses into what transpired in the very beginning when Satan fell, and took a third of the angels with him.
In Luke 10:18, Jesus says He saw satan fall like lightning from heaven. That happened in the beginning. Lucifer was created with the rest of the angels, prior to the existence of the Earth and prior to the existence of Adam and Eve.
Job 38:4-7 NKJV
[4] “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. [5] Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? [6] To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, [7] When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?"
The sons of God were the angels. Lucifer started out as a "good" angel, and scripture talks about his beauty, etc. Lucifer means star of the morning, light bearer or bringer of light. So he was there from the beginning, before the Earth was ever created.
Satan had already fallen when Adam and Eve were created, hence him tempting Eve, and telling her that she and Adam can be like God if they eat the forbidden fruit. Remember that Satan also wanted to be like God in the beginning.
Ezekiel 28:12-17 tells us of the fall of Satan. This all happened before Adam and Eve were on the Earth.
[12] “Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “You were the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. [13] You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created. [14] “You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones. [15] You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you. [16] “By the abundance of your trading You became filled with violence within, And you sinned; Therefore I cast you as a profane thing Out of the mountain of God; And I destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the fiery stones. [17] “Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor; I cast you to the ground, I laid you before kings, That they might gaze at you."
There are more scriptures than this that support a "gap theory", but you have to rightly divide the word. You have to use discernment.
God created us the way he did is so He could communicate with us in a manner we understand. His revealed and inspired Word has not changed, but our understanding of everything else He has created has increased. As our understanding increases, we find new understanding and agreement from His Word. Gap Theorists simply are presenting a different understanding from scripture that happens to align with science more than before.
You need to listen to James Knox because you don't have a clue about the Bible
Reason number 1 is simply false. While maybe true for some proponents, it's certainly not true for all, so to say "wholly" is simply a lie and disingenuous. The gap could've been only 100 years or 1000 years, in which case it would still be a young earth. My belief in a gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 has nothing to do with the age of the universe, science, geology or evolutionists. It's because of the overwhelming scriptural evidence, which I'll present to refute reason 2.
Reason number 2 is also false. It is not wholly made up out of cloth. You say there is no mention of a gap anywhere in scripture, but then at 4:27, you say that humanity is creations crowning jewel. I could argue that there is no mention of us being creations crowning jewel anywhere in scripture. Or perhaps you drew that conclusion from indirect scriptural evidence just like those of us who believe in a gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. In Genesis 1, every single day starts with "And God said" and ends with "and the evening and the morning..." That scriptural pattern puts the start of day 1 in Genesis 1:3. In Genesis 1:2, the condition of the Earth is without form and void, with darkness upon the face of the deep. The Earth is said to be without form and void and the heavens without light (darkness) one other time in scripture, Jeremiah 4:23. In the context of that verse it's due to God's judgment (His fierce anger, Jeremiah 4:26). So there is scriptural evidence supporting an Earth without form and void with darkness in relation to God's judgment. When did Satan and his angels fall? It's not revealed in scripture. Regardless of your stance, you have to place their fall somewhere between Genesis 1 and 2 (before the serpent/Satan shows up in Gen. 3). What about their creation? Well, notice Job 38:4-7,
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Notice how the morning stars and sons of God (angels) shouted for joy WHEN (not after) God laid the foundations of the earth. When God was in the process of creating the earth, they already existed.
And then there's 2 Peter 3:3-7. in verses 4-5, Peter mentions that the scoffers are ignorant concerning the beginning of the creation (in saying "all things continue as they WERE from the beginning," Genesis 1:1) and mentions that the heavens (plural) WERE of old AND the earth standing out of the water and in the water. That is the condition of the earth in Genesis 1:2, NOT the flood of Noah's time. Read verses 6 and 7 VERY carefully. Verse 6 says "the world (not the earth) that then was, being overflowed with water, perished." That world includes the heavens and earth mentioned in verse 5. The next verse (7) makes that clear: "But the HEAVENS and the EARTH, which are now (as opposed to the heavens and the earth which were), by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." Then Peter mentions the promise of new heavens and a new earth in verse 13 (once again making a distinction between our current heavens and earth). The flood in Noah's time covered the Earth and didn't affect the heavens (plural). When the waters receded and Noah came out of the ark, it was the same Earth and heavens. The entire world didn't perish: Not Noah, his sons, their wives nor all the creatures in the ark with them. In fact, the giants didn't perish either (compare Genesis 6:4 with Deuteronomy 3:11 & Numbers 13:33). By this point, the evidence should be overwhelming.
Reason number 3 is honestly irrelevant to the argument. The argument of whether or not "created" and "made" can be interchangeable doesn't prove or disprove the gap.
@jimmie_g ~ Nothing in your litany of “proof texts” proves an unspecified finite time period between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/gap-theory/ and www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/
@@BibleAnswerMan I present verse after verse with explanation after explanation, reasoning from the scriptures like Paul did in Acts 17:2 and your reply is a simple, shallow statement without one single rebuttal for all the evidence I provided. Before I click your links, read my comment again and kindly provide reasons and explanations of WHY the specific verses I provided prove nothing. Be a "Berean" (Acts 17:10-11) and search the scriptures to see if these things are so, and if not, let me know how/why they are not so similar to how Aquila and Priscilla did with Apollos in Acts 18:24-26.
PREADAMITES are NOT sub-human creatures.
They are SONS OF GOD & MORNING STARS!!!
Y ' yob (Job) 38:4
@Roth Kholum
Amen!!! 😀
You have been studying. 👍
GOD bless you!!!
Lol. This guy doesn’t even pass muster to convince me otherwise. He doesn’t provide scriptures to support debunk, after all he says to “do good science” and “don’t appeal to scripture”.
Last I check Satan twisted scriptures in his futile attempt to tempt Jesus, and what does Jesus do? He appeals to scripture.
Like Jesus said to Peter, get behind me Satan.
This guy should call himself the bible opinion man, or just the opinion man. Do good science but dont appeal to scripture? What happened to "let God be true but every man a liar"?
Read Exodus 20:11,
For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM, and rested the seventh day"
@41srn How is your answer any different than Hank's response to the gap theory?
Hank...you still haven't explained where the darkness came from in Genesis Chapter 1, and verse 2. Your postulating sounds very authoritative and flowery and all, but it doesn't amount to a hill of beans. How about Isaiah 14:12-21 and Ezekiel 28:12-19...how does that fit in? Doesn't scripture count at all to you? Seems like Jeremiah 4:23 is attempting to ring a bell in someone's belfry. These passages actually mean something, and I don't think God is just filling in the blanks to just take up space. Isaiah 45:18 is making a point about Genesis 1:2, that fits this subject, and deserves a hearing. Gaps are found in the Bible in many places...what Bible are you reading? How about the gap found in Daniel concerning the seventy weeks? How about the gap found between the 1st coming of Jesus and the 2nd coming? Your reasoning is faulty...makes no sense. Of course, you teach that the 2nd coming came at 70 A.D. which is completely false. Sorry, but you lost me on this one.
@MichaelAndrews-uy1gl Darkness in Gensis 1:2 is simply the absence of light. The waters were chaotic and darkened like the stormy sea at night. This sets up God’s declaration, “Let there be light.” We need not think a prior cataclysm had taken place that resulted in the formless void darkness. Rather, from nothing, the very absence of light, God brought forth light. See www.equip.org/article/the-gap-theory-of-genesis-12/ and www.equip.org/bible_answers/gaps-genealogies-genesis/
But God is light. So how did the darkness come about. Darkness come when God forsakes something, “my God my God why hast thou forsaken me”.
This man does NOT know scripture... The Bible does tell us that there is a gap between Gen 1 & 2..... Its fact.. Its amazing how he uses mans theology NOT the Bible to prove his flawed theology... Learn scripture before you misled people..
@vicglazewski5928 How so?
@@BibleAnswerMan Simple.. Study isaiah, Job, and many other chapters.. The Bible does NOT tell us how old the earth is but it does tell us about satans fall which happened BEFORE Adams creation. The Bible is clear that there was a civilation on earth in the original Garden of Eden the one before Adam & Eve.... Gen 1: 2 is a judgement because of satans fall... Scripture tells us that God created a perfect earth and universe as in Gen 1:1 and in Isa 45:18. ILike I said I could go on for volumes.. I sugest to you that you start studying the Bible not mans interprutations.. God bless Vic
One of the best explanations for the Genesis/earth age Biblical theories 💯
Gap theory is correct.