A road case with a facade is completely fine for any event including weddings. Just as long as all cords are hiden or at least gaffe taped down. Anything above this is just for DJ's own interest. IMO couple's don't care that you have an upscale "furniture set up". They will care if you suck at their wedding though.
💯 facts! My wife and I have a clean setup no wires exposed with a facade. Our clients want great music, sound and a professional experience! We have had NO ONE complain about our look! This maybe an agenda to increase spending for the DJ industry. JMT
@@BryanegreenleeI TOTALLY agree with this!!!! I’ve been noticing that the only people pushing “DJ Furniture” are the DJs selling them! They are also the only ones talking down on the table with facade! I’ve challenged this theory several times in DJ forums and these forums are mostly controlled by those who sell the furniture. They will delete comments/post that goes against their agenda. The furniture is nice but I’m not buying!
While the furniture looks cool, a facade serves a very important function. It keeps the drunks at bay. I've DJ'd at enough wedding receptions where I don't want to be out in the open and exposed to an "open bar" crowd. I've been groped by women, had drinks spilled on my gear, verbally abused and shoved. I need that barrier. Sorry.
@voxpro events Right. I get that. It can be easily knocked over. But at least a facade creates an obvious impediment to keep most people back. I also use stanchions along my sides to prevent people from walking behind me.
I had a toadmatic, but I realized most couples didn't care to spend the extra $$ for it. It was too big for my van and wasn't making my setup easier. Back to a road case with a custom facade. Thinking about the maxx edge but I really believe us DJ's spend more time looking at what other DJ's have and the client doesn't even care! But I did make my own white facade, where my gear is clean and neat. Still have the road case but it's not in sight. My gear is still protected!
I think you nailed it when you said the client doesn’t even care. While there are some that might care, the vast majority don’t, at least not in my market.
Some clients care, but most really don't. They sometimes don't even notice anything you have provided. For example, before I broke everything down last Saturday, I asked the host if she ever got a picture of the monogram. She said "what monogram?" Holy crap man.
Its not that they dont care, its simply they dont want to spend more money than they have to. Building your brand is about charging the extra money, and its included in your price. Say your 1000.00 now, build the cost into your price to $1500.00. Now its worth your time and the client gets an awesome presentation. Just tell them this is part of your look.
I saw this "trend" coming and its completely understandable for high end wedding djs, ie: most youtube Djs. I think back to my last 6 gigs; 4 were in backyards, 2 had stairs or hard to get to areas, 1 has a stage but small stage door. 1 was in a hotel load in thru a tight kitchen and the other was a 2nd floor restaurant, So basicly typical mobile DJ work. I can't justify $2000 for maybe 2 gigs for me. Haven't yet had a client say "we loved the music but your setup, is trash!" I am still looking for that affordable light weight 1-2 piece booth.
So I'll start out by saying this.. This was a very well made video and from the looks and quality of it a lot of hard work done to it so thank you for that and thanks for bringing up this interesting topic. Unfortunately I personally don't agree with it. The problem I see is with this trend is people are starting to care less about the ART & MAGIC of DJing... & started focusing on how everything LOOKS (what equipment you have, what your setup looks like, how bright your lights are, etc). This happens all the time everywhere else in life & it sucks that this mindset is creeping to in our industry... While looks are important & they have their place in this industry, It shouldn't be the MOST important thing that your equipment looks like what "they" say is the DJ standard. I love what (DJ) Pri yon Joni said in one of his TH-cam videos where he talks about people judging him because he chooses to use his "entry level" controller to do the majority of his events (large & small alike) even though he started on a turntable with REAL vinyl & then went to CDJs and etc. DJs look down on him because he's using what "appears" to be subpar quality Slso he must be an over hyped trash bedroom DJ.... but then their faces hit the floor whenever he does ridiculous routines that everybody assumes you could NEVER do on a controller. TBH, majority of time when people are hating on what your stuff looks like, it's because they're insecure about their own skills or setup. So in order to try to compensate, they hide behind the most expensive equipment, furniture, & accessories they can buy so people just give them the benefit of the doubt & ASSUME they have the skills to pay the bills...Basically the DJ equivalent of the guy buying a sports care to make up for other..."shortcomings" he may have 😅 For example, we attended a wedding & the DJ had expensive furniture console with all the bells & whistles...(I know this because I gave him a compliment on how it looked and he went out of his way to say what it was called, where he got it, & how much it costed him). Kinda douche move but hey... to each his own... And the result? The reception was at BEST a 6/10 because his performance was subpar even though he LOOKED like a professional. (For respeck on his name I ain't gone call him out because everybody has bad days & stuff happens...but it don't change the fact that I was ready to leave 1.5 hours after dinner. I just had no desire to stick around & see him work after what I saw so far and I NEVER do that). I've been to basement, house, and block parties that were 10 times better than this was because the DJ mixed the 💩 out of his stuff....and not because he LOOKED pretty behind some furniture console. So because of ALL, I personally, I feel like this line of thought is rubbish.... It ain't the crap you HAVE, it's what you HAVE with it that defines you. And I already know people are probably going to try to drag me in the comments for what I said....but who cares? 🤷🏾♂️ "They" aren't paying for my DJ events & "they" certainly aren't volunteering to BUY me any of said DJ furniture that I HAVE to have.....so why should I turn my whole process that works upside down, just because "they" say so? 😅
Yep. Just walk the phuk out there and get it done with YOUR style. Probably the only new "trend" I've followed is uplighting which is great. Oh, add DMX controller lighting to the list. The rest of the "Amazon" grade stuff is just that. Best to be a leader and not a follower. Lots and lots of "self-ordained" trend experts on TH-cam - many of which know just enough to be dangerous.
It is not the dj booth that makes you better but when you take care of every détails to be the best you got to go where the perfection …. And facades are so common , so if you want to be the best you got to move on where it is class. But nobody told in this video that dj booth is going to make you better but it shows that you care about every aspect to give a good (almost perfect) show.
Man I rather spend my money on some furniture for my house for $2,500 and up! Throw that facade up and hide them cables then rock on. People don’t give a Sh*+ about that furniture just only other DJs do. Just look good and not sloppy then Sound amazing. Get booked again for another gig 💯💯
A nice clean and tidy set up (Road cased gear on a table) with a facade or nice table scrim a few Led wash lights some decent speakers (and A+ cable management) coupled with a DJ with the ability to "Deliver the goods" by entertaining the client and their guests with knowing when to play the right track (being able to mix the too) with the ability to talk on a mic and communicate with your audience makes for a great gig..........and in the end, if the client is happy and your happy with the end product (The actual DJ service and the DJ equipment set up), that's all that matters. And not forgetting that your self image is important too, with looking the part, formal attire for formal events etc, and business shirt, black pants and shoes or very neat casual for everything else (Birthdays etc), Wearing a Co polo shirt for super casual events like Pool/Beach Partys, outdoor events etc BTW, there aint' a chance in hell that I'm going to shell out $2,000- to $4,000- just on a "light up DJ stand (with a rack)" just because it's the "in thing" at the moment. Cheers, DJ Paul (Melbourne, Australia) shoesand shoes
Great video and great info! Issue I have with the furniture is the price of some of these. While I do use an ADJ event table when it comes down to pricing for the wedding couple 90% could care less about paying more for “furniture”. I can’t see paying a couple grand for a stand when at the end of the night the guests will pretty much only remember if you played their song or not. I do feel like it’s becoming more of a show of equipment than talent of DJing. With that said there is also the weight and transport of this stuff that we are all going to feel very soon. Some of us already are lol. Speaking for myself as I’ve been doing this since 97. Personally I’m all for as long as your rig is clean and cables are neat and managed well then it doesn’t matter if you have a $150 facade or a $2k DJ table. Just my take on all this.
I use two road cases on top of a table with a facade out front. I love being able to sit down and hang out discreetly ‘back stage’ for cocktail hours and dinner. I even have enough room to eat back there! It’s also a nice barrier for people drinking. My left side case houses my controller and laptop, right side case my 12 channel mixer, mics, and a drawer for storage. I don’t know how so many of you work without a mixer! (Am I missing something?) I like having individual, EQable channels for my mic and both wireless mics, my Serato controller, and a couple backup devices. I find at every gig there are at least a couple requests I don’t have, and being able to cue them up on my iPad and mix into them with my main mixer is a must.
Great video! I’ve been wanting a DJ console for a couple years now and it’s finally pulled the trigger and got Danny Max’s Edge XL. I should have it in a few weeks. I can’t wait for the simplicity of setups. I also have his totems which are extremely awesome.
Good video and points made. Been thinking of this as a project and therefore been considering various points from each. I just like the idea on being able to rock in and be set up in ten and at end of the night quick tear down. Venues are going to love you. I think the pros outweighs the cons. Be great to see further pics of what people have got in terms of furniture already. 🙌🏿
I’m going to completely disagree with this video. If there is one thing I know for sure it’s that these videos plant envy into people. Yes it would be nice to have that newest shiniest thing, and in some cases that’s absolutely true, however, spending a fortune on a table just because your favorite TH-camr has one is not a great reason. Many of the people here are in the business of making them, others received them for free as a sponsor. If it doesn’t make financial sense to drop $2500 on a table just because you saw it in a video, then don’t subscribe to the hype. Spend that money on something that will truly benefit your business, and if it is a piece of furniture then by all means pull the trigger, otherwise lighting, speakers or something else that would help you out better would be the wise decision. Don’t forget, if your not pulling a trailer or are in a tall van, that furniture will suck to get to a venue. If you want to shine with your customers it’s always going to be your personality in the mic and how well you engage with your clients and their guests. Alright DJ’s, you got this!
There will always be a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it mentality." But the DJ set-up has changed and evolved over the years. I started back in the 90s when we pulled turntables out of the original boxes and set them up on a bare table. And in the early 2000s I was rolling around a carpeted, homemade case. Then I had an upright roadcase that was very similar to my carpeted one. Honestly, that was the best because every piece of gear I needed was int that. But I eventually moved on to controller cases and coffins. This iteration is just another step in the ever changing and evolving of the DJ set-up. Also, I'll have another video from the perspective of the DJ (Rick, Barr and Rachel Lynch). The purpose of this one was to get the side of those that developed these styles of booth.
@@djkanoya Don't get me wrong, I will never say don't evolve, I havent used a table top in years. I do use a pro-X pro event table, and I dress it in black or white dpneding on the room. I guess I'm old school because back when I started we were supposed to blend in to the darkness and only come out when needed to. Our clients were the stars of the show, not us. We wore black and our equipment was black. Now we live in the day and age where DJ's are damn near as famous as a rock star, and we have some DJ's that have an ego the size of a rock star. Yes, evolve, but dont think you need a $2500 table to put your gear on because 90% of the clients don't care. Now I say this from the perspective of a mobile wedding entertainer, not as a DJ. Yes I DJ but I entertain and my music choices and my mic skills when working the crowd will alway outshine my equipment (unless something stops working), but thats a different story. I understand where your coming from and I apreciate the video.
Thanks for your perspective, but I do believe the shift of bringing the DJ out from the darkness is the very reason these consoles are popular and needed. As Joe said in this video, "all eyes are on you" and because of that, I think it helps to have a set-up that matches better with the overall look of that event, and not the look of the command center for the audio engineers front of house.
All that Glitters isn’t Gold, personally I know a so called DJ that bought Max Product and flooded his Facebook page with photos of all the new stuff he purchased. There is only one major problem he has NO CLUE how to DJ, No Clue how to Program music for his events and last he will never speak on the microphone. I was at a party he was DJing showing off his new products he purchased, but when the manager asked him to tell the guest to return to their tables he refused and told the venue manager if you want them to sit down here’s my microphone and you tell them. Going back to programming the music for the event, it was a Company Holiday (Xmas) Party and all he played for cocktail hour and dinner hour was Kidz Boop Christmas Music. He was told many time to switch the music to traditional Xmas music. At that point he came up to me and asked what kind of Xmas music should I Play. So all these new products are Great but it doesn’t make a Person be a Great DJ.
I do want and plan to buy a DJ booth or podium style stand someday however I have yet to find the right one that fits my needs as far as quality, assembling time, wiring and portability. Right now, I'm using a 5' folding table with a black stretchy table scrim and a black table top facade made by ADJ, not the big floor facades everyone is using. My DJ set up looks pretty uniform because the table size is the exact same length as my tabletop facade. I do get a lot of compliments on it as well from guests, wedding planners and DJs too. This all being said, like some people have mentioned here, no one really cares about what a DJ booth looks like, except for other DJs. This is the reality we all need to realize and accept. It's kind of like dance lighting. People don't care what type of dance lighting you have as long as they have some sort of lighting on the floor. They don't know or care about whether you're using moving heads, pars, lasers, derbys, etc. Only DJs are the ones that care and notice these things. Same goes with DJ furniture. Unless you're a DJ, no one really cares what you're using to hold your DJ gear on. Heck lots of times DJs are even tucked away in the corner so most don't even see what the booth looks like. At the end of the day, you will choose to use what you like and what you want to represent your brand. If DJ furniture is part of your brand, then use it. Will it make you more money? Probably not. This is where ROI comes into play. Will your return on investment be there if you spend say $5000 on a Toadmatic? Trying to upsell a Toadmatic booth to a client is also a tough one because at the end of the day they really only care about one thing...having a great DJ that can play the right music for their event and keep people on the dance floor. All the extras is just that...extras! Icing on the cake as we say! If you want your DJ set up to stand out, then sure maybe DJ furniture is the way to go. But if you think having nice DJ furniture is going to make you more money and get you more bookings, having been in the DJ game for over 33 years now, I can tell you DJ furniture is not your answer. One final note I wanted to mention, with DJ furniture, there will be those gigs where the booth or podium style stand like Danny Max or Bunn Gear just won't work. For example, say a bar or club gig where you have to bring your own controller. I'm booked for 5 holiday parties this year and they're all at venues where they just want me to bring my controller and plug into their house sound. Bringing a full booth or a podium type of stand just isn't feasible for these types of gigs. So what do you do then? Remove the controller and place it back in the flight case and use a folding table again? Buy a second controller for those types of gigs? This is where my concern of having one of these cool booths lies and I'm torn on buying a booth or stand because of this reason.
I built my first setup up five years ago. I will be making a 3rd Gen setup this year. These guys are 1,000% right on the money. You want to be cheap. Fine. We pros will crush it!!
Hmmm ... I'd also argue that a podium style (like the Control Tower or Command Center ) can also be used anywhere. It's really no different than a table and a roadcase. But yes, like you said, options are key!
@@djkanoya depends whether you do a lot of outdoor gigs and what part of the country you’re in. I know a guy that has the Bunn command center that can’t stand it because in our area you don’t always get the luxury of working on a perfectly level surface when outdoors, and there are no feet on the bottom of these units to balance it out.
@djkanoya there is actually a practical difference.... It's more so along the lines of storage and transport... Simply put at least half of the mobile market don't have a vehicle that I could properly store and transport this thing without disassembling it every single time.... And personally I wouldn't want to have to break down a DJ podium and reassemble it for every single event.
Great video topic! I didn't like the facade era either because I want the crowd to see my hands while I'm mixing. The Pro-X DJ Podium should also be mentioned. Great value and solid case.
It's nice but I'm staying with my road cases. It all depends on how you sound as a dj. Did you rock the event? Not does your equipment is in a case or dj Furniture. I think the Furniture looks good. Can the Furniture stand up to road travel like the cases. I feel my equipment will be more protected with the cases.
I'm good with just the road case. The people I mainly play for don't care how good you look. it's how good you sound. IF it's for video or a static situation, I will go with the furniture hundred percent
Just got the edge XL from Danny max group. 2 things convinced me. 1) more elegant look that matches the price point I’m try to get to 2) more efficient load in and out via pre wiring and leaving the gear in the furniture. I originally wanted the hoerboard one from Germany, but I liked the max and bun booths for portability without a trailer or van. Tie breaker was the more heavy duty cases.
@@djkanoya yeah very true. If they had a more sturdy case, bunn would have won for me. I haven’t have great success w cloth cases after a year or 2. Max is more pricey but looks the part. We will see. 👀
I picked up a JMAZ façade, silver with white skrim and it looks awesome. Clients just want a nice clean professional setup to go with the venue. But I do plan on adding furniture at some point. But rather than break the bank, I'll be building it myself. It'll take some time as I'm a perfectionist. But once complete it'll look purchased. Plus I need to be sure that it'll house all of my backup equipment. But yet be small enough to travel. Great topic.
DJs! lol gotta love us. Just like a subs, gear, & unnecessarily expensive highs... the only thing that matters is customer satisfaction. Now, that part differs depending on your lane. But I have never heard a client complain about the appearance of the setup. Walmart folding table. Stretch table cover. Boom. Show up. Play the right songs at the right times. Show skills as much as makes sense for the client/ customers. Period
Got a Rockville Cage with Black Scrims for Formal events and an Odysey Stand/TableTop for less formal. Both ROCK and both easy to set up and hide cables. 🤘🏼🔥🤘🏼
i got the Bunn Gear Command Center with a custom rack panel that enables me to literally setup in 15-20 minutes for sound and another 15-20 minutes for some basic lights.
flight cases arent going anywhere, they are rugged and are meant to take a beating to protect your gear during transport and not look pretty and flashy. Ding the furniture corners or table tops and it immediately loses its clean "look".
I like the the new look of the set up. But not ready to jump on the ship. So I made myself a less expensive alternative. I bought a folding table in white and black. Brand name is (Deejay) and I cover my dj case with white sticker.
The furniture looks really cool, but unless you can up your price to cover the cost to pay for it in the first year it no worth it IMHO. I use a rockville booth. Fits in my suv fine. Have a gear in road cases gives you flexibility with your gear. My last wedding of the year was going to a ceremony outside and reception inside, due to rain from the hurricane every thing moved inside. I was able to use 4 channel microphone mixer (ceremony setup) for both reception and ceremony. I also do 50 % of reception outside, how does the dj furniture do on uneven ground. We moist effect the unit.
These types of setups are awesome. The only issue is, in my area most places are restaurants that have nightlife and no equipment. To attempt to set up something like this to play for three or four hours plus equipment doesn't;t work for me. I went with the stands that you started seeing pop up around 2017 that has four connected sections and a shelf that hangs in the middle. One of the popular ones you see is by Cedarslink. I have that one as well as the Rockville "Rockbooth." Both have worked out really well, are extremely portable, and easy to set up. I don;t recommend the Cedarslink stand though. They have horrible customer service. I have attempted to purchase replacement scrims from them for the stand I bought directly from them twice in the last five years. The first time they never responded. Then a year or so later I attempted again and they responded, but were not helpful at all.
road case on a Pro Event table2. I'd love to wheel a toad in and out, but I live in a property without a driveway that has steps everywhere and work in venues that tend to have steps. So its a case of lugging and lifting.
One of the biggest complications myself and some of the guy in my company with furniture setup get. Is from photographers. They love that they don't lose an angle for specialty dancer, from an ugly setup.
I've definitely been noticing the trend. I'm still using a folding table and road case with box speakers, and I agree it feels very dated. However, these fancy furniture pieces are crazy expensive and are quite cumbersome to lug around. I ended up buying a Rockbooth XL so I could move away from the Costco table without breaking the bank.
I think their is a tier of customer base that would book the more expensive DJ that has furniture as a part of their presentation and setup. I can't see this becoming the standard unless the costs of the furniture come down or a more affordable design is implemented. I think DJs care more about this part than couples do.
yes it looks good, but lets remember one thing. Playing good music and being a good dj is all that matters. You can have all the fancy tables, lights and gimmicky gear, but if you're a bad DJ then it doesnt matter. Be a dope dj, play good music, read the crowd right and you wont need these corny and gimmicky gear.
Major Facts! "...Playing good music and being a good dj is all that matters." Folks will remember the good time they had at an event wayyy more than they do the "DJ's" setup! Jazzy Jeff became the DJ he is today based on his knowledge and understanding of "DJ'ing",...not on his "DJ Setup"! ijs
I have a whole series planned out. Just gotta find the time to do 'em. Busy wedding season right now! I'll check out yours, have not heard of that one.
i like the prox tower console ...cuz it comes with the case to move it in ....but i did have a liteconsole and it looked better then most ppls stuff but i got ride of it cuz it was too big and heavy to move ever weekend ....so now i have a rockville xl dj booth that folds out in 2mins ....but i do want the prox tower console
Lets go get dj furniture, so we can ditch the table and facade... Look at most djs with these 2-3000$ stands, they still have to use a facade to hide their gear. So they spend more money to only use the same gear they were trying to get rid of. We need to spend more TIME, not money mastering our craft..
I’ve wanted to move the direction of furniture, but I use turntables. The ones I like you can’t transport the turntables in the furniture. I have a mini van so I need something that breaks down.
I really like the look of a lot of the Modern Console stuff. I think once ProX starts distributing the Humpter Basic MK3 in North America, that will be the one for me. At my level I don’t need a big van, and more vehicles being electric I want a booth that is not too bulky.
That one looks great, but the issue I have with it is that it doesn’t permanently hold the controller or turntables/mixer so you still need a separate road case for that. Also you’re still going to have to spend time plugging in everything and doing cable management.
@@DJ-Coma I get that for sure. Lots of great options out there to keep your gear in place. But if you are using a smaller SUV, this looks easy to put up against the side wall, can put my speakers against it and put my controller that’s in a soft case wherever it fits. Its definitely not saving much in time, but I appreciate its compactness. With the whole front covered it should be easy to run wires too. Trust me, I would LOVE to have a TV booth or something similar, but size and ability to take to any venue setting up by myself is key at this time.
I got rid of the road case, but there's no way I am in a place to haul furniture. I don't have the ability to get a vehicle that can provide the room. That's why I went to the EV50's. I have just enough room to bring one or two more speakers if I need more coverage. I like the idea, but I am not able to do it...yet.
You do not need big console furniture. Clients don't care or only care if you sell it to them. DJ furniture is to bulky, expensive, and you need to have the vehicle. Once you are doing upscale events consistently and have the vehicle then go get the furniture.
I mean of course the people who sell these consoles are going to say you are an idiot for not having one. I don't think it is a one size fits all product. In some markets it may be a necessity. In most of the rest, it is not. Would love to see you talk to people not invested in selling the consoles.
I do like some of these consoles but I have mixed feelings. The guys pushing this trend the hardest also have vested interests in DJ Furniture. Also, Ive noticed a lot of DJ's that use this style of furniture still set up a facade behind them. Whats the point? They sell how how much easier, efficient, and cleaner the set up is than a table/facade but then you see the gig log videos and they still set up a facade to hide the stuff that doesn't fit in their DJ podium.
We DJs are stupid. You are mobile be fast, efficient, clean, skilled at you craft, song selection, and MC. Also, make as much profit as you can. Don't buy unnecessary gear. The furniture needs to get lighter and easier to move. Price needs to be under $1K.
Hey as long as people wanna pay 💰 I’ll even include fireworks 💥 for sure I know a guy that can make that possible, but as a Dj is hard to get good clients that wanna pay that amount of money.
I think a lot of Djs miss the point. Those Dj Consoles are not simply for cosmetic purposes it’s to simplify our setup, in turn saving us time. The bonus is they look great as well!
This is marketing at its best. Trying to make you fill like you are lacking something. BTW. They make matching stands for your roadcase. No need to put your system on a table.
Personally, I like to switch up my setups a lot so the dj consoles don’t really accommodate that…. Also the consoles are designed pretty, then get ruined by ugly stuff like Mic antennas, laptop stands, and all sorts of cables being visible… Fascades used to hide ALL of that Also most of the people you interviewed in this video also SELL the dj furniture, of course they’re going to want djs to switch to those
So just add a facade in front of it and then it really looks amazing until you can get a console The only problem with consoles is they require trailers and heavy moving equipment and a crew because of their weight...
I’ve wanted to move the direction of furniture, but I use turntables. The ones I like you can’t transport the turntables in the furniture. I have a mini van so I need something that breaks down. I also want something with a 19in rack for my mics etc.
I believe all of these could accommodate turntables; and I have seen the Toad booth roll up into mini vans. If you are really considering, I would just reach out to any of those guys and see how it can work. Alternatively, you could consider getting a pair of Rane 12s. My ideal set-up would be the Max booth with 12s and an S9.
@@djkanoya I have Rane 12 and s11. I like the podium style, but it’s more inconvenient to take the Rane 12s out the furniture after every gig. Especially doing 3-4 gigs a weekend. Right now my 12 live in a coffin and I through it on a 6 foot table with a facade. I reached out to Joe Bunn and he said you can’t transport the turntables inside the Bunn Booth
I'm so glad I don't follow trends or fads. These podium style consoles are just that, a faddish trend. Clients don't care about DJ trends. Only DJs do. All clients really care about is that your setup is neat and clean and you play the right music and rock the party.
I my experience running a Dj company you couldn't be more off on this. About 7 out of every 10 couples I dealt with, one of their top concerns is the appearance of the setup. And the truth is the clients you book will rarely complain about the setup appearance, it's the one you don't book that walk into another company office and say how they didn't like the look of another company setup. It even happens with my own company. We allow the clients to pick their Dj and for 2 years now going to 3. The Dj with furniture setup are booking more. The best way I can put it came in a review one of my Djs got. Bride said "After a year of planning I love that I had a Dj who's setup blended into my vision of my reception!"
@keithtalaga1731 If you think a podium style table gets you more bookings, go ahead and believe that. In my experience, that is not the case at all. I stay very busy during wedding season and it's not because of a podium style table or facade. It's because my setup is NEAT and CLEAN and I'm a great DJ. You can try to justify in your mind that podium style is superior all day long, but real life DJ experience has proven quite the opposite for my business.
Exactly the DJ industry is a copy cat league everyone wants to look like the so called up scale DJs no originality, clean setup and sound and of course the most important good music and packed floor.
That was your stance then, but I see you have finally transitioned over to the podium style setup, which by the way, I love. I'm thinking about doing the same.
I love the look of Dj Furniture, but they are huge to carry around and don’t fit on my van, also a bigger box means you need a bigger storage room, which equals to more money on that, and tbh on my market people don’t really care about that
Whole purpose is portability that does not look like is portable only if you have a van or truck/U haul don't care about the booth the only thing people is going to notice is the vibes your bumping old school way.
Not a fan of this trend where the private event or wedding Dj is trying to become the star of the show in any way possible; Dj furniture included. It should be about the celebrant or couple, and the Dj plays the soundtrack. Just watch any gig log these days: Dj trying to be some kind of headliner (perfectly fine if you're at a festival), but the reason for celebration seems to taper off as the event progresses. It's sad watching egos battling for attention at someone's special day. If you don't believe me, look at the "modern" Dj setup vs. the sweetheart table at a wedding. Which is "louder"?
Djs makes their lives so difficult. You can put all your gear in a black road case. Buy two 12 inch speakers and one 18 inch sub. Get a digital mixer like the qu pac. You’ll never have to buy gear again.
Get yourself a nice clean set up. Whatever you can afford and don't worry about spending $2,000+ on a dj booth just to look cool. You can look just as cool with a clean presentation. Whether it's a walmart folding table with a scrim or one of these overpriced church podiums!
I think couples are eventually going to hire the DJ who doesn't look like every other DJ young couples like originality, as long as you rock the floor and have a good clean setup they'll be happy at the end of the day the they'll still pay more for the cake than the DJ.
I’m not embarrassed to have a road case for a DJ setup. What they don’t say is the DJ booth is large and cumbersome. AND…. you may need more space to transport this monstrosity. For $2000 and up… I’ll pass!
A console was the standard in the early days 40 years ago. I guess it's something "new" to today's group. I've never used a table to setup on. Probably a hold over from my dinosaur past as turntables don't work well on a table when you have a decent sound system. Welcome to the past gents!
@@djkanoya Yep, my first amp rack was built from 1/2 MDF and had aluminum rails I bought at the hardware store. :) I was really moving up in the work when I got the first real ATA case - 8U Anvil from the Keyboard player in a band I worked with and used it for an amp rack.
i am not going to put my dj mixer on a folding table and have the legs give no way it going to be a adj pro event table or facade something you can trust and road cases nothing wrong with that at all being a dj is about make do with what you have and DJ Furniture is going to be out before you know it , we really dont need goodwill looking Furniture thats what its all starting to look like , when you go in there you need to look like a real dj .............show all your gear off and with just DJ Furniture you look cheep
I like this video but I must disagree. The look of the current dj set-up is fuelled by social media influencers, not what we really think the client wants. The same with equipment. Everybody has furniture , rev 7s, and evolve 50s thanks to the channels with the most followers. I know DJs without youtube channels so they miss the influence push. They are still prosperous and get amazing gigs with amazing reviews from clients. This vid speaks to the industry changing but what's really happening is the industry is using influencers to convince us that we need the latest and greatest piece of expensive change.
Well naturally, but Joe's also a DJ! And the soundbite from Rick was certainly unbiased. I'm planning a DJ's pespective version of this topic too. What are your thoughts? Will you be revising your set-up (if you have not already)?
I totally disagree with this video. It's whatever you as a DJ comfortable with go for it. The Jani's, the Webs and the Bunns they can all do this because they are what I call Rich DJs. They can afford the big furniture. I'll be completely 100% honest with you I find DJs who bring a lot of equipment and flashy equipment it's just their reason to charge outrageous prices. I come in to weddings with my $10,000 set up and I kill it and I get great reviews. All this flashy furniture equipment is just vanity
Road case on the table. I like using a full mixer along side my software controller and haven’t seen any furniture that would accommodate that well. Maybe toadcase but I work alone and never would want to have to lift that in the event of stairs.
I'm team ADJ event table 2. No problem here and get plenty of gigs without any complaints. I have customized it for light enhancements. I have so many controllers and turntables that I take to different events. Don't want to limit that aspect of it. And having to spend more money for customizable top plates.
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A road case with a facade is completely fine for any event including weddings. Just as long as all cords are hiden or at least gaffe taped down. Anything above this is just for DJ's own interest. IMO couple's don't care that you have an upscale "furniture set up". They will care if you suck at their wedding though.
Facts... Completely through with that.... I mentioned an example of exactly what you said and my comment I posted... So what you said is 100% true
💯 facts! My wife and I have a clean setup no wires exposed with a facade. Our clients want great music, sound and a professional experience! We have had NO ONE complain about our look! This maybe an agenda to increase spending for the DJ industry. JMT
@@BryanegreenleeI TOTALLY agree with this!!!! I’ve been noticing that the only people pushing “DJ Furniture” are the DJs selling them! They are also the only ones talking down on the table with facade! I’ve challenged this theory several times in DJ forums and these forums are mostly controlled by those who sell the furniture. They will delete comments/post that goes against their agenda.
The furniture is nice but I’m not buying!
While the furniture looks cool, a facade serves a very important function. It keeps the drunks at bay. I've DJ'd at enough wedding receptions where I don't want to be out in the open and exposed to an "open bar" crowd. I've been groped by women, had drinks spilled on my gear, verbally abused and shoved. I need that barrier. Sorry.
Ha! great point.
a facade is not a barrier... no facade will stop them... i had drunk people coming to me behind my booth :D
@voxpro events Right. I get that. It can be easily knocked over. But at least a facade creates an obvious impediment to keep most people back. I also use stanchions along my sides to prevent people from walking behind me.
Tell us more about the groping
I don't think my wife would like that. ;) @@wesleystones670
I had a toadmatic, but I realized most couples didn't care to spend the extra $$ for it. It was too big for my van and wasn't making my setup easier. Back to a road case with a custom facade. Thinking about the maxx edge but I really believe us DJ's spend more time looking at what other DJ's have and the client doesn't even care! But I did make my own white facade, where my gear is clean and neat. Still have the road case but it's not in sight. My gear is still protected!
I think you nailed it when you said the client doesn’t even care. While there are some that might care, the vast majority don’t, at least not in my market.
Some clients care, but most really don't. They sometimes don't even notice anything you have provided. For example, before I broke everything down last Saturday, I asked the host if she ever got a picture of the monogram. She said "what monogram?" Holy crap man.
@@oldschooldjernie Sorry bro, that was funny. But wasn't at the same time. I feel your pain on that one.
No one cares. You could use orange and green extension cords. No one notices but us.
Its not that they dont care, its simply they dont want to spend more money than they have to. Building your brand is about charging the extra money, and its included in your price. Say your 1000.00 now, build the cost into your price to $1500.00. Now its worth your time and the client gets an awesome presentation. Just tell them this is part of your look.
I saw this "trend" coming and its completely understandable for high end wedding djs, ie: most youtube Djs. I think back to my last 6 gigs; 4 were in backyards, 2 had stairs or hard to get to areas, 1 has a stage but small stage door. 1 was in a hotel load in thru a tight kitchen and the other was a 2nd floor restaurant, So basicly typical mobile DJ work. I can't justify $2000 for maybe 2 gigs for me. Haven't yet had a client say "we loved the music but your setup, is trash!" I am still looking for that affordable light weight 1-2 piece booth.
The first thing I think of upon seeing the Toad? Stairs
So I'll start out by saying this.. This was a very well made video and from the looks and quality of it a lot of hard work done to it so thank you for that and thanks for bringing up this interesting topic.
Unfortunately I personally don't agree with it. The problem I see is with this trend is people are starting to care less about the ART & MAGIC of DJing... & started focusing on how everything LOOKS (what equipment you have, what your setup looks like, how bright your lights are, etc). This happens all the time everywhere else in life & it sucks that this mindset is creeping to in our industry...
While looks are important & they have their place in this industry, It shouldn't be the MOST important thing that your equipment looks like what "they" say is the DJ standard.
I love what (DJ) Pri yon Joni said in one of his TH-cam videos where he talks about people judging him because he chooses to use his "entry level" controller to do the majority of his events (large & small alike) even though he started on a turntable with REAL vinyl & then went to CDJs and etc.
DJs look down on him because he's using what "appears" to be subpar quality Slso he must be an over hyped trash bedroom DJ.... but then their faces hit the floor whenever he does ridiculous routines that everybody assumes you could NEVER do on a controller.
TBH, majority of time when people are hating on what your stuff looks like, it's because they're insecure about their own skills or setup. So in order to try to compensate, they hide behind the most expensive equipment, furniture, & accessories they can buy so people just give them the benefit of the doubt & ASSUME they have the skills to pay the bills...Basically the DJ equivalent of the guy buying a sports care to make up for other..."shortcomings" he may have 😅
For example, we attended a wedding & the DJ had expensive furniture console with all the bells & whistles...(I know this because I gave him a compliment on how it looked and he went out of his way to say what it was called, where he got it, & how much it costed him). Kinda douche move but hey... to each his own... And the result?
The reception was at BEST a 6/10 because his performance was subpar even though he LOOKED like a professional. (For respeck on his name I ain't gone call him out because everybody has bad days & stuff happens...but it don't change the fact that I was ready to leave 1.5 hours after dinner. I just had no desire to stick around & see him work after what I saw so far and I NEVER do that).
I've been to basement, house, and block parties that were 10 times better than this was because the DJ mixed the 💩 out of his stuff....and not because he LOOKED pretty behind some furniture console.
So because of ALL, I personally, I feel like this line of thought is rubbish.... It ain't the crap you HAVE, it's what you HAVE with it that defines you.
And I already know people are probably going to try to drag me in the comments for what I said....but who cares? 🤷🏾♂️
"They" aren't paying for my DJ events & "they" certainly aren't volunteering to BUY me any of said DJ furniture that I HAVE to have.....so why should I turn my whole process that works upside down, just because "they" say so? 😅
Yep. Just walk the phuk out there and get it done with YOUR style. Probably the only new "trend" I've followed is uplighting which is great. Oh, add DMX controller lighting to the list. The rest of the "Amazon" grade stuff is just that.
Best to be a leader and not a follower. Lots and lots of "self-ordained" trend experts on TH-cam - many of which know just enough to be dangerous.
It is not the dj booth that makes you better but when you take care of every détails to be the best you got to go where the perfection …. And facades are so common , so if you want to be the best you got to move on where it is class. But nobody told in this video that dj booth is going to make you better but it shows that you care about every aspect to give a good (almost perfect) show.
Man I rather spend my money on some furniture for my house for $2,500 and up! Throw that facade up and hide them cables then rock on. People don’t give a Sh*+ about that furniture just only other DJs do. Just look good and not sloppy then Sound amazing. Get booked again for another gig 💯💯
A nice clean and tidy set up (Road cased gear on a table) with a facade or nice table scrim a few Led wash lights some decent speakers (and A+ cable management) coupled with a DJ with the ability to "Deliver the goods" by entertaining the client and their guests with knowing when to play the right track (being able to mix the too) with the ability to talk on a mic and communicate with your audience makes for a great gig..........and in the end, if the client is happy and your happy with the end product (The actual DJ service and the DJ equipment set up), that's all that matters.
And not forgetting that your self image is important too, with looking the part, formal attire for formal events etc, and business shirt, black pants and shoes or very neat casual for everything else (Birthdays etc), Wearing a Co polo shirt for super casual events like Pool/Beach Partys, outdoor events etc
BTW, there aint' a chance in hell that I'm going to shell out $2,000- to $4,000- just on a "light up DJ stand (with a rack)" just because it's the "in thing" at the moment.
Cheers,
DJ Paul (Melbourne, Australia)
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Great video and great info! Issue I have with the furniture is the price of some of these. While I do use an ADJ event table when it comes down to pricing for the wedding couple 90% could care less about paying more for “furniture”. I can’t see paying a couple grand for a stand when at the end of the night the guests will pretty much only remember if you played their song or not. I do feel like it’s becoming more of a show of equipment than talent of DJing. With that said there is also the weight and transport of this stuff that we are all going to feel very soon. Some of us already are lol. Speaking for myself as I’ve been doing this since 97. Personally I’m all for as long as your rig is clean and cables are neat and managed well then it doesn’t matter if you have a $150 facade or a $2k DJ table. Just my take on all this.
I use two road cases on top of a table with a facade out front. I love being able to sit down and hang out discreetly ‘back stage’ for cocktail hours and dinner. I even have enough room to eat back there! It’s also a nice barrier for people drinking. My left side case houses my controller and laptop, right side case my 12 channel mixer, mics, and a drawer for storage. I don’t know how so many of you work without a mixer! (Am I missing something?) I like having individual, EQable channels for my mic and both wireless mics, my Serato controller, and a couple backup devices. I find at every gig there are at least a couple requests I don’t have, and being able to cue them up on my iPad and mix into them with my main mixer is a must.
Justin, this was really eye opening. I appreciate you putting in the hours to get this info to us! 🍾
Thanks man! Hours and miles (this covers interviews and footage from Vegas and Chicago!)
@@djkanoya It shows. Really great work.
By the way, thank you for this video. Very well done and informative.
Great video essay! Recently, I’ve been put on to the DJ table from Humpter & I’m getting one at the top of next year 🔥
just found the channel ... love the format.. great job
Yay!! My cameo at 2:42 😂😂😂 nice video
Great video! I’ve been wanting a DJ console for a couple years now and it’s finally pulled the trigger and got Danny Max’s Edge XL. I should have it in a few weeks. I can’t wait for the simplicity of setups. I also have his totems which are extremely awesome.
You went big! Which gear will you be putting in there?
Good video and points made. Been thinking of this as a project and therefore been considering various points from each. I just like the idea on being able to rock in and be set up in ten and at end of the night quick tear down. Venues are going to love you. I think the pros outweighs the cons. Be great to see further pics of what people have got in terms of furniture already. 🙌🏿
I’m going to completely disagree with this video.
If there is one thing I know for sure it’s that these videos plant envy into people.
Yes it would be nice to have that newest shiniest thing, and in some cases that’s absolutely true, however, spending a fortune on a table just because your favorite TH-camr has one is not a great reason.
Many of the people here are in the business of making them, others received them for free as a sponsor.
If it doesn’t make financial sense to drop $2500 on a table just because you saw it in a video, then don’t subscribe to the hype. Spend that money on something that will truly benefit your business, and if it is a piece of furniture then by all means pull the trigger, otherwise lighting, speakers or something else that would help you out better would be the wise decision.
Don’t forget, if your not pulling a trailer or are in a tall van, that furniture will suck to get to a venue.
If you want to shine with your customers it’s always going to be your personality in the mic and how well you engage with your clients and their guests.
Alright DJ’s, you got this!
There will always be a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it mentality." But the DJ set-up has changed and evolved over the years. I started back in the 90s when we pulled turntables out of the original boxes and set them up on a bare table. And in the early 2000s I was rolling around a carpeted, homemade case. Then I had an upright roadcase that was very similar to my carpeted one. Honestly, that was the best because every piece of gear I needed was int that.
But I eventually moved on to controller cases and coffins. This iteration is just another step in the ever changing and evolving of the DJ set-up.
Also, I'll have another video from the perspective of the DJ (Rick, Barr and Rachel Lynch). The purpose of this one was to get the side of those that developed these styles of booth.
@@djkanoya Don't get me wrong, I will never say don't evolve, I havent used a table top in years. I do use a pro-X pro event table, and I dress it in black or white dpneding on the room.
I guess I'm old school because back when I started we were supposed to blend in to the darkness and only come out when needed to. Our clients were the stars of the show, not us. We wore black and our equipment was black. Now we live in the day and age where DJ's are damn near as famous as a rock star, and we have some DJ's that have an ego the size of a rock star.
Yes, evolve, but dont think you need a $2500 table to put your gear on because 90% of the clients don't care.
Now I say this from the perspective of a mobile wedding entertainer, not as a DJ. Yes I DJ but I entertain and my music choices and my mic skills when working the crowd will alway outshine my equipment (unless something stops working), but thats a different story.
I understand where your coming from and I apreciate the video.
Agree 100%
Thanks for your perspective, but I do believe the shift of bringing the DJ out from the darkness is the very reason these consoles are popular and needed. As Joe said in this video, "all eyes are on you" and because of that, I think it helps to have a set-up that matches better with the overall look of that event, and not the look of the command center for the audio engineers front of house.
Real class DJ setup with wheels showing.
All that Glitters isn’t Gold, personally I know a so called DJ that bought Max Product and flooded his Facebook page with photos of all the new stuff he purchased. There is only one major problem he has NO CLUE how to DJ, No Clue how to Program music for his events and last he will never speak on the microphone. I was at a party he was DJing showing off his new products he purchased, but when the manager asked him to tell the guest to return to their tables he refused and told the venue manager if you want them to sit down here’s my microphone and you tell them. Going back to programming the music for the event, it was a Company Holiday (Xmas) Party and all he played for cocktail hour and dinner hour was Kidz Boop Christmas Music. He was told many time to switch the music to traditional Xmas music. At that point he came up to me and asked what kind of Xmas music should I Play. So all these new products are Great but it doesn’t make a Person be a Great DJ.
I do want and plan to buy a DJ booth or podium style stand someday however I have yet to find the right one that fits my needs as far as quality, assembling time, wiring and portability. Right now, I'm using a 5' folding table with a black stretchy table scrim and a black table top facade made by ADJ, not the big floor facades everyone is using. My DJ set up looks pretty uniform because the table size is the exact same length as my tabletop facade. I do get a lot of compliments on it as well from guests, wedding planners and DJs too.
This all being said, like some people have mentioned here, no one really cares about what a DJ booth looks like, except for other DJs. This is the reality we all need to realize and accept. It's kind of like dance lighting. People don't care what type of dance lighting you have as long as they have some sort of lighting on the floor. They don't know or care about whether you're using moving heads, pars, lasers, derbys, etc. Only DJs are the ones that care and notice these things. Same goes with DJ furniture. Unless you're a DJ, no one really cares what you're using to hold your DJ gear on. Heck lots of times DJs are even tucked away in the corner so most don't even see what the booth looks like.
At the end of the day, you will choose to use what you like and what you want to represent your brand. If DJ furniture is part of your brand, then use it. Will it make you more money? Probably not. This is where ROI comes into play. Will your return on investment be there if you spend say $5000 on a Toadmatic? Trying to upsell a Toadmatic booth to a client is also a tough one because at the end of the day they really only care about one thing...having a great DJ that can play the right music for their event and keep people on the dance floor. All the extras is just that...extras! Icing on the cake as we say!
If you want your DJ set up to stand out, then sure maybe DJ furniture is the way to go. But if you think having nice DJ furniture is going to make you more money and get you more bookings, having been in the DJ game for over 33 years now, I can tell you DJ furniture is not your answer. One final note I wanted to mention, with DJ furniture, there will be those gigs where the booth or podium style stand like Danny Max or Bunn Gear just won't work. For example, say a bar or club gig where you have to bring your own controller. I'm booked for 5 holiday parties this year and they're all at venues where they just want me to bring my controller and plug into their house sound. Bringing a full booth or a podium type of stand just isn't feasible for these types of gigs. So what do you do then? Remove the controller and place it back in the flight case and use a folding table again? Buy a second controller for those types of gigs? This is where my concern of having one of these cool booths lies and I'm torn on buying a booth or stand because of this reason.
Great video!
I built my first setup up five years ago. I will be making a 3rd Gen setup this year. These guys are 1,000% right on the money. You want to be cheap. Fine. We pros will crush it!!
These dont work for every venue... good to have options. The facade is easy and can be used 99% of the time.
Hmmm ... I'd also argue that a podium style (like the Control Tower or Command Center ) can also be used anywhere. It's really no different than a table and a roadcase.
But yes, like you said, options are key!
@@djkanoya depends whether you do a lot of outdoor gigs and what part of the country you’re in. I know a guy that has the Bunn command center that can’t stand it because in our area you don’t always get the luxury of working on a perfectly level surface when outdoors, and there are no feet on the bottom of these units to balance it out.
@djkanoya there is actually a practical difference.... It's more so along the lines of storage and transport... Simply put at least half of the mobile market don't have a vehicle that I could properly store and transport this thing without disassembling it every single time.... And personally I wouldn't want to have to break down a DJ podium and reassemble it for every single event.
Not giving up my flite cases
Great video Kanoya! Love your videos.
Thank you so much!
Great video topic! I didn't like the facade era either because I want the crowd to see my hands while I'm mixing. The Pro-X DJ Podium should also be mentioned. Great value and solid case.
It's nice but I'm staying with my road cases. It all depends on how you sound as a dj. Did you rock the event? Not does your equipment is in a case or dj Furniture. I think the Furniture looks good. Can the Furniture stand up to road travel like the cases. I feel my equipment will be more protected with the cases.
I'm good with just the road case. The people I mainly play for don't care how good you look. it's how good you sound. IF it's for video or a static situation, I will go with the furniture hundred percent
Just got the edge XL from Danny max group. 2 things convinced me. 1) more elegant look that matches the price point I’m try to get to
2) more efficient load in and out via pre wiring and leaving the gear in the furniture.
I originally wanted the hoerboard one from Germany, but I liked the max and bun booths for portability without a trailer or van. Tie breaker was the more heavy duty cases.
It's a tough call between those, especially since the Command Center has that rack!
@@djkanoya yeah very true. If they had a more sturdy case, bunn would have won for me. I haven’t have great success w cloth cases after a year or 2.
Max is more pricey but looks the part. We will see. 👀
I picked up a JMAZ façade, silver with white skrim and it looks awesome. Clients just want a nice clean professional setup to go with the venue. But I do plan on adding furniture at some point. But rather than break the bank, I'll be building it myself. It'll take some time as I'm a perfectionist. But once complete it'll look purchased. Plus I need to be sure that it'll house all of my backup equipment. But yet be small enough to travel. Great topic.
DJs! lol gotta love us. Just like a subs, gear, & unnecessarily expensive highs... the only thing that matters is customer satisfaction. Now, that part differs depending on your lane. But I have never heard a client complain about the appearance of the setup. Walmart folding table. Stretch table cover. Boom. Show up. Play the right songs at the right times. Show skills as much as makes sense for the client/ customers. Period
Got a Rockville Cage with Black Scrims for Formal events and an Odysey Stand/TableTop for less formal. Both ROCK and both easy to set up and hide cables. 🤘🏼🔥🤘🏼
i got the Bunn Gear Command Center with a custom rack panel that enables me to literally setup in 15-20 minutes for sound and another 15-20 minutes for some basic lights.
flight cases arent going anywhere, they are rugged and are meant to take a beating to protect your gear during transport and not look pretty and flashy. Ding the furniture corners or table tops and it immediately loses its clean "look".
I like the the new look of the set up. But not ready to jump on the ship. So I made myself a less expensive alternative. I bought a folding table in white and black. Brand name is (Deejay) and I cover my dj case with white sticker.
The furniture looks really cool, but unless you can up your price to cover the cost to pay for it in the first year it no worth it IMHO. I use a rockville booth. Fits in my suv fine. Have a gear in road cases gives you flexibility with your gear. My last wedding of the year was going to a ceremony outside and reception inside, due to rain from the hurricane every thing moved inside. I was able to use 4 channel microphone mixer (ceremony setup) for both reception and ceremony.
I also do 50 % of reception outside, how does the dj furniture do on uneven ground. We moist effect the unit.
These types of setups are awesome. The only issue is, in my area most places are restaurants that have nightlife and no equipment. To attempt to set up something like this to play for three or four hours plus equipment doesn't;t work for me. I went with the stands that you started seeing pop up around 2017 that has four connected sections and a shelf that hangs in the middle. One of the popular ones you see is by Cedarslink. I have that one as well as the Rockville "Rockbooth." Both have worked out really well, are extremely portable, and easy to set up. I don;t recommend the Cedarslink stand though. They have horrible customer service. I have attempted to purchase replacement scrims from them for the stand I bought directly from them twice in the last five years. The first time they never responded. Then a year or so later I attempted again and they responded, but were not helpful at all.
road case on a Pro Event table2.
I'd love to wheel a toad in and out, but I live in a property without a driveway that has steps everywhere and work in venues that tend to have steps. So its a case of lugging and lifting.
One of the biggest complications myself and some of the guy in my company with furniture setup get. Is from photographers. They love that they don't lose an angle for specialty dancer, from an ugly setup.
I've definitely been noticing the trend. I'm still using a folding table and road case with box speakers, and I agree it feels very dated. However, these fancy furniture pieces are crazy expensive and are quite cumbersome to lug around. I ended up buying a Rockbooth XL so I could move away from the Costco table without breaking the bank.
I think their is a tier of customer base that would book the more expensive DJ that has furniture as a part of their presentation and setup. I can't see this becoming the standard unless the costs of the furniture come down or a more affordable design is implemented. I think DJs care more about this part than couples do.
yes it looks good, but lets remember one thing. Playing good music and being a good dj is all that matters. You can have all the fancy tables, lights and gimmicky gear, but if you're a bad DJ then it doesnt matter. Be a dope dj, play good music, read the crowd right and you wont need these corny and gimmicky gear.
Major Facts! "...Playing good music and being a good dj is all that matters." Folks will remember the good time they had at an event wayyy more than they do the "DJ's" setup! Jazzy Jeff became the DJ he is today based on his knowledge and understanding of "DJ'ing",...not on his "DJ Setup"! ijs
I'm right where you are now. I have a "Vonyx DB4 Pro DJ Booth" which is okay for now. You should do a video on the price range of products.
I have a whole series planned out. Just gotta find the time to do 'em. Busy wedding season right now! I'll check out yours, have not heard of that one.
thanks
i like the prox tower console ...cuz it comes with the case to move it in ....but i did have a liteconsole and it looked better then most ppls stuff but i got ride of it cuz it was too big and heavy to move ever weekend ....so now i have a rockville xl dj booth that folds out in 2mins ....but i do want the prox tower console
Check out the Pro X Control Tower Users group on FB to get more ideas and talk with others that have this: facebook.com/groups/1204839210355055
Lets go get dj furniture, so we can ditch the table and facade... Look at most djs with these 2-3000$ stands, they still have to use a facade to hide their gear. So they spend more money to only use the same gear they were trying to get rid of. We need to spend more TIME, not money mastering our craft..
I’ve wanted to move the direction of furniture, but I use turntables. The ones I like you can’t transport the turntables in the furniture. I have a mini van so I need something that breaks down.
Not every DJ has a truck or trailer to lug that furniture around in.
So which one did you choose? Summer's on the way!
I really like the look of a lot of the Modern Console stuff. I think once ProX starts distributing the Humpter Basic MK3 in North America, that will be the one for me. At my level I don’t need a big van, and more vehicles being electric I want a booth that is not too bulky.
Hmmm ... I had not heard of the Humpter. Quite interesting.
That one looks great, but the issue I have with it is that it doesn’t permanently hold the controller or turntables/mixer so you still need a separate road case for that. Also you’re still going to have to spend time plugging in everything and doing cable management.
@@DJ-Coma I get that for sure. Lots of great options out there to keep your gear in place. But if you are using a smaller SUV, this looks easy to put up against the side wall, can put my speakers against it and put my controller that’s in a soft case wherever it fits. Its definitely not saving much in time, but I appreciate its compactness. With the whole front covered it should be easy to run wires too. Trust me, I would LOVE to have a TV booth or something similar, but size and ability to take to any venue setting up by myself is key at this time.
I got rid of the road case, but there's no way I am in a place to haul furniture. I don't have the ability to get a vehicle that can provide the room. That's why I went to the EV50's. I have just enough room to bring one or two more speakers if I need more coverage.
I like the idea, but I am not able to do it...yet.
You do not need big console furniture. Clients don't care or only care if you sell it to them. DJ furniture is to bulky, expensive, and you need to have the vehicle. Once you are doing upscale events consistently and have the vehicle then go get the furniture.
I'm very close to picking one up
Which one are you leaning toward?
@@djkanoya the Bunn. Cause it comes in black, the rack mounts, soft cases
I mean of course the people who sell these consoles are going to say you are an idiot for not having one. I don't think it is a one size fits all product. In some markets it may be a necessity. In most of the rest, it is not. Would love to see you talk to people not invested in selling the consoles.
Ill stick with my mobile case much easier to carry around ill just have to modify the case for cable management
I do like some of these consoles but I have mixed feelings. The guys pushing this trend the hardest also have vested interests in DJ Furniture. Also, Ive noticed a lot of DJ's that use this style of furniture still set up a facade behind them. Whats the point? They sell how how much easier, efficient, and cleaner the set up is than a table/facade but then you see the gig log videos and they still set up a facade to hide the stuff that doesn't fit in their DJ podium.
FYI some of the audio in these interviews is only coming through on one side.
Thanks I'll check it out.
We DJs are stupid. You are mobile be fast, efficient, clean, skilled at you craft, song selection, and MC. Also, make as much profit as you can. Don't buy unnecessary gear. The furniture needs to get lighter and easier to move. Price needs to be under $1K.
Hey as long as people wanna pay 💰 I’ll even include fireworks 💥 for sure I know a guy that can make that possible, but as a Dj is hard to get good clients that wanna pay that amount of money.
I think a lot of Djs miss the point. Those Dj Consoles are not simply for cosmetic purposes it’s to simplify our setup, in turn saving us time. The bonus is they look great as well!
And very expensive... Keeping up with the Jones as my parents would say will break you.
Thing about those podiums is that EVERYONE has one now! So you're not standing out like you think.
This is marketing at its best. Trying to make you fill like you are lacking something. BTW. They make matching stands for your roadcase. No need to put your system on a table.
Personally, I like to switch up my setups a lot so the dj consoles don’t really accommodate that…. Also the consoles are designed pretty, then get ruined by ugly stuff like Mic antennas, laptop stands, and all sorts of cables being visible… Fascades used to hide ALL of that
Also most of the people you interviewed in this video also SELL the dj furniture, of course they’re going to want djs to switch to those
So just add a facade in front of it and then it really looks amazing until you can get a console The only problem with consoles is they require trailers and heavy moving equipment and a crew because of their weight...
I’ve wanted to move the direction of furniture, but I use turntables. The ones I like you can’t transport the turntables in the furniture. I have a mini van so I need something that breaks down. I also want something with a 19in rack for my mics etc.
I believe all of these could accommodate turntables; and I have seen the Toad booth roll up into mini vans. If you are really considering, I would just reach out to any of those guys and see how it can work.
Alternatively, you could consider getting a pair of Rane 12s. My ideal set-up would be the Max booth with 12s and an S9.
@@djkanoya I have Rane 12 and s11. I like the podium style, but it’s more inconvenient to take the Rane 12s out the furniture after every gig. Especially doing 3-4 gigs a weekend. Right now my 12 live in a coffin and I through it on a 6 foot table with a facade.
I reached out to Joe Bunn and he said you can’t transport the turntables inside the Bunn Booth
@@DeeJay_IMB I know 12s can transport inside the Max Booth. But that is a beast of a coffin and case. But not bad for two people to handle.
you need a special vehicle for a toad booth. They don't even fit in a regular mini van. They're heavy af.
I'm so glad I don't follow trends or fads. These podium style consoles are just that, a faddish trend. Clients don't care about DJ trends. Only DJs do. All clients really care about is that your setup is neat and clean and you play the right music and rock the party.
I my experience running a Dj company you couldn't be more off on this. About 7 out of every 10 couples I dealt with, one of their top concerns is the appearance of the setup. And the truth is the clients you book will rarely complain about the setup appearance, it's the one you don't book that walk into another company office and say how they didn't like the look of another company setup. It even happens with my own company. We allow the clients to pick their Dj and for 2 years now going to 3. The Dj with furniture setup are booking more. The best way I can put it came in a review one of my Djs got. Bride said "After a year of planning I love that I had a Dj who's setup blended into my vision of my reception!"
@keithtalaga1731 If you think a podium style table gets you more bookings, go ahead and believe that. In my experience, that is not the case at all. I stay very busy during wedding season and it's not because of a podium style table or facade. It's because my setup is NEAT and CLEAN and I'm a great DJ. You can try to justify in your mind that podium style is superior all day long, but real life DJ experience has proven quite the opposite for my business.
Exactly the DJ industry is a copy cat league everyone wants to look like the so called up scale DJs no originality, clean setup and sound and of course the most important good music and packed floor.
@@josemaldonado6864 EXACTLY!!!
That was your stance then, but I see you have finally transitioned over to the podium style setup, which by the way, I love. I'm thinking about doing the same.
custumers dont give a rats arse on what style of DJ set up you have (with a facade etc) so long as it looks clean and tidy.
I love the look of Dj Furniture, but they are huge to carry around and don’t fit on my van, also a bigger box means you need a bigger storage room, which equals to more money on that, and tbh on my market people don’t really care about that
Whole purpose is portability that does not look like is portable only if you have a van or truck/U haul don't care about the booth the only thing people is going to notice is the vibes your bumping old school way.
What do you expect them to say. They sell furniture. I would like to here from customer what they prefer
Not a fan of this trend where the private event or wedding Dj is trying to become the star of the show in any way possible; Dj furniture included. It should be about the celebrant or couple, and the Dj plays the soundtrack. Just watch any gig log these days: Dj trying to be some kind of headliner (perfectly fine if you're at a festival), but the reason for celebration seems to taper off as the event progresses. It's sad watching egos battling for attention at someone's special day. If you don't believe me, look at the "modern" Dj setup vs. the sweetheart table at a wedding. Which is "louder"?
Djs makes their lives so difficult. You can put all your gear in a black road case. Buy two 12 inch speakers and one 18 inch sub. Get a digital mixer like the qu pac. You’ll never have to buy gear again.
Get yourself a nice clean set up. Whatever you can afford and don't worry about spending $2,000+ on a dj booth just to look cool. You can look just as cool with a clean presentation. Whether it's a walmart folding table with a scrim or one of these overpriced church podiums!
overpriced church podiums! LOL!
Sounds like advocacy for image vs substance...2 each his own
Be like every dj and get furniture. You will def stand out
I think couples are eventually going to hire the DJ who doesn't look like every other DJ young couples like originality, as long as you rock the floor and have a good clean setup they'll be happy at the end of the day the they'll still pay more for the cake than the DJ.
Yes, the new furniture is amazing looking. But the single man DJ might not have the space to transport the furniture.
Modern console is in until some fkwt tips their sht on it.
I’m not embarrassed to have a road case for a DJ setup. What they don’t say is the DJ booth is large and cumbersome. AND…. you may need more space to transport this monstrosity. For $2000 and up… I’ll pass!
A console was the standard in the early days 40 years ago. I guess it's something "new" to today's group. I've never used a table to setup on. Probably a hold over from my dinosaur past as turntables don't work well on a table when you have a decent sound system.
Welcome to the past gents!
So true, back in the day we were rolling in racks of homemade cases.
@@djkanoya Yep, my first amp rack was built from 1/2 MDF and had aluminum rails I bought at the hardware store. :) I was really moving up in the work when I got the first real ATA case - 8U Anvil from the Keyboard player in a band I worked with and used it for an amp rack.
i am not going to put my dj mixer on a folding table and have the legs give no way
it going to be a adj pro event table or facade something you can trust and road cases nothing wrong with that at all
being a dj is about make do with what you have and DJ Furniture is going to be out before you know it , we really dont need goodwill looking Furniture
thats what its all starting to look like , when you go in there you need to look like a real dj .............show all your gear off and with just DJ Furniture you look cheep
I like this video but I must disagree. The look of the current dj set-up is fuelled by social media influencers, not what we really think the client wants. The same with equipment. Everybody has furniture , rev 7s, and evolve 50s thanks to the channels with the most followers.
I know DJs without youtube channels so they miss the influence push. They are still prosperous and get amazing gigs with amazing reviews from clients.
This vid speaks to the industry changing but what's really happening is the industry is using influencers to convince us that we need the latest and greatest piece of expensive change.
Just make one. Lol
Make a few hundred or thousand and sell 'em! Thanks for dropping into the video!
Of course he’s gunna agree he builds them lol
Well naturally, but Joe's also a DJ! And the soundbite from Rick was certainly unbiased. I'm planning a DJ's pespective version of this topic too.
What are your thoughts? Will you be revising your set-up (if you have not already)?
When people start paying me more I'll get one lol 2k is 2k
If you want to make more money, start asking for it.
I totally disagree with this video. It's whatever you as a DJ comfortable with go for it. The Jani's, the Webs and the Bunns they can all do this because they are what I call Rich DJs. They can afford the big furniture. I'll be completely 100% honest with you I find DJs who bring a lot of equipment and flashy equipment it's just their reason to charge outrageous prices. I come in to weddings with my $10,000 set up and I kill it and I get great reviews. All this flashy furniture equipment is just vanity
Are you Team DJ Console or Team Roadcase on a Table?
Road case on the table. I like using a full mixer along side my software controller and haven’t seen any furniture that would accommodate that well. Maybe toadcase but I work alone and never would want to have to lift that in the event of stairs.
I'm team ADJ event table 2. No problem here and get plenty of gigs without any complaints. I have customized it for light enhancements. I have so many controllers and turntables that I take to different events. Don't want to limit that aspect of it. And having to spend more money for customizable top plates.
You are correct, this is where the industry is going. I specifically market the Bunn Command Center up at bridal shows.
Presentation is important but these are just silly looking and over priced. It may work better if permanent in house setup but not for mobile dj.
100% disagree lol
Whatever.
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sure,because it makes the music sound better.lololol
All these people are shilling their wares. Solutions to problems that don't even exist.