Planning Loxone for My Home - How to Navigate Electrical Plan adjustments for Loxone
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- Q: From a homeowner, looking to build a new home and wants to install Loxone. They have electrical plans and want to get quotes from Electricians to run circuits and plugs. What can I tell the electricians so they can quote me properly?
A: I've provided a detailed layout for the light circuit and plugs for a central panelized installation of Loxone. With Loxone the electrician will run home-runs to each circuit you want to control with Loxone. This mean it can be more 12/14AWG wire, so it's important to consider panel locations and perhaps splitting the panels per floor to provide the most cost efficient Loxone installations.
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Love your video series Zinder! Keep up the great work mate!
Thanks man love your videos! Will try to jump back in!
Very cool, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Great video. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it. Going to try to get more now that things have settled down.
What happens if loxone goes under and now you can’t get replacement parts 10 years down the road
Nothing, using loxone miniserver gen 1 with old extensions 11 years and works well. Now bought new miniserver compact for update, If you have wires no problems, directly inputs outputs or tree, if not you can use air loxone equiptment. Loxone I can recomend is very stable and easy to configure and use😊
Good question. To be frank, that is the case with any piece of hardware you place in your home/business, especially when related to automation, company ecosystems and panel based systems. I think the only solution to help mitigate is a good wiring strategy. I've seen Control 4, Crestron and Loxone systems get pulled from homes because homeowners/installers didn't understand full capacity/setup/wiring. I've also seen automation mfg companies start and go belly under during my time in the industry. I'm assuming eBay would be source of hardware replacement, and if house is wired properly transition to new modern DC automation system would be easy.
My big assumption:
What control panels do you use for Loxone what brand ?
I use multiple different brands. Loxone carries one right now, I forgot the brand, but its wonderful. Future automation has another one, Schneider has some plastic panels that are wonderful. I've also used 18x18 junction boxes some times for jobs, either with hinged or screwed on door.
Never use cat 5/6 cable for the bus ( Tree ) always use schielded cat 7 or the specialized Loxone Tree cable. Why use 3 switches at the door ? Use 1 and program the modes like 3 switches save a lot of money. And if you use multiple automation panels. The grounds of the 24v powersupply have to be daisy chained from panel to panel.
Good suggestions, my feedback:
1. You can use any twisted pair. some ares of the world can't get cat 7, and even Loxone prior to the tree cable recommended any twisted pair. I agree shielded is the way to go. Good point.
2. Modes - > Moods, it got confusing for a while, I call them modes as well. Yes moods allow you to have different setting, and if you code commands and schedules right you can make the switch behave different based on time of day. For example hit the switch before 9am and the mood sequence starts with this mood. Works very nicely. Good point.
3. Sharing reference ground is important for multiple panels. However in some cases, if you are using multiple miniservers, this is not needed. You can just use the network to intercommunicate them with each other. However if you are using Loxone Link or Tree Interconnect you will need to share the (-) on the DC power supply. Trust and Network Gateway does not require this. I also recommend putting fuses on the DC - for the load of the power supply in each panel, it's a little weird but just something the electricians I worked with taught me. Good point.
Great Comments. Thanks
@IvoLoxone Where did you come up with that? Cat 5/6 can be UTP, FTP (F/UTP), STP (S/UTP), SFTP (SF/UTP), STP (U/FTP), SSTP (S/FTP) so only UTP is not shielded; all the other variations have at least 1 type of shielding.
I think it is from the training, when I got trained they used to always say Cat 7 for "future-proofing"(that was a while ago). In my area Cat 7 was hard to find and expensive, so we used Cat5/6 all the time, with blessing from Loxone support. In fact the North America Loxone got Cat 7 for partners as it was so hard for us to source, they no longer supply Cat 7, so times have changed.
@@loxoneguy I know, in my area europe. cat 6a sftp is almost the standard for home networking. cat 7 is future proofing and easy to get.
@@IvoLoxoneNice. Thanks for clarifying. I first started in Yellowknife, if was hard to get any good cables. When moved to western Canada my suppliers just looked at me perplexed when asking for Cat 7, so for future-proofing I just ran 2 runs of Cat 5 or 6 when the clients wanted. Nowadays I personally think the best future proofing is just running another run or create a junction box in a closet or attic for just in case situations. It's saved my projects 3 times over 8 years to just have a redundant cheaper junction box that all the tree runs go to and then run 1 or 2 Cat cables back to panel. Different framing/building styles really impact a Loxone install!