So far it has been working great. As we get deeper into winter we will really know. I will be tracking it and will post another video in the spring as to how it did.
Rob, you might want to get some fine fiberglass screen material like used on screen doors and lay it over the fan opening to keep debris off the fan. One of Zeus's toys fall on that fan and stop it it will fry the motor or the wires, just my 2 cents.
I'm glad it's working out well! Similar to what JR suggested, you could get a cheap furnace filter to set in place over the hole to protect that fan and keep dog hair and debris out. Having that air circulation will also help keep condensation and moisture down in the basement area, preventing mold growth. -Dusty
Sarah is always sweeping so not to much dog fur YET. lol. I will make something to cover it soon. I plan on converting it to 13v instead of the 120 as the system currently draws about a amp 24 hours a day. I would rather save that 24 amps to be used with other stuff. If I convert it it will use maybe .1 amp an hour.
The fan is a really good idea in the summertime. When you want underground natural air conditioning.. so when it's 90° in the house in the summertime you just turn on the fan and it'll pump that 58° are from your crawl space up into your house.
The issue with this in the summer is critters trying to come in. After I get the entire skirting around the house sound and secure I will be doing exactly as you said for summer.
Came over from TuberChat. I'm glad I did since I thought I had subbed previously but it either didn't stick or I hadn't remembered to hit the button. I LOVE seeing how much difference just that little bit of airflow into your crawlspace/basement made!
Hello and Welcome Dawn. Glad you liked the video and I look forward to seeing yours as well. So far it is keeping it from freezing. We shall see as the winter moves on. 🙂
Great video on how to over-complicate your under the floor crawl space heating. Most of the time your utility water like bathing and laundry and dishes all pretty much require you to heat it anyway.. so make your water storage dual purpose.. rap 10 ft 20 ft of flexible half inch copper around your stove pipe and then have a return line going back to the tank.. it's basically a thermal battery that heat your floor so you don't have to worry about Frozen toes.. think radiant floor heating. Whatever goes up your stove pipe is pretty much wasted heat anyway you're just recovering some of it.. then all you need is a thermostat in each one of your tanks so it makes sure that it doesn't get too low or too hot
Using the tanks as a thermal battery is a good idea. However the use it as a thermal siphon you need to have the tanks higher than the stove. I have been looking for a low power draw water pump that can handle high temps. The Stove has ports in the tank that can be attached to it for doing this. We also have the 24" fire tube that goes inside the firebox for doing this. Again we still need to find that pump. As soon as I find the pump that fits our needs we will be installing a piping system that goes around the tanks and close to the plumbing to help keep it warm.
@@curmudgeinnak my dad is in the process of moving into his new house but he is a dealer for heatmor wood burning boilers. They might have some ideas and maybe I could pass those along to you it might be a week or two off the top of my head I can think of about two dozen different low circulation pumps that handle a high temp but they run on 110 and 240 volts. Maybe he knows something that runs off of 12 or 24 volts
@curmudgeinnak I think it's only like 60 w. It's a standard circulation motor for a boiler system they pump 2 gallons per minute any heating and cooling place has them. The prices kind of steep it could be $160 I could be $350. But they left a really long time. Running continuously I've seen thim still working 30 years later.. for pumpkins basically it's two metal stainless steel gears so working temp is normally $120 degrees but high temp you could pump steam through it 250 degrees and it's not going to hurt it.. although I would put a thermal switch on your tanks because you really don't want them to be much hotter than a 120° because then you deal with evaporation and then you have problems with under the floor rot. And a thermal switch will shut off the circulation pump.
Very good information. Thank you. I would probably not put it into the tank but run copper around the tanks and let it heat the area that way. The tanks are just 210 gallon truck tanks that you buy from HD. It just needs to keep it above freezing. I was thinking a combination of copper and high temp pex. Thoughts?
I do not know what the layout of your wood stove is, but do you have room either under or next to the wood stove to install an 8in down draft wood stove pipe in the floor into the crawl space? Maybe you could mount the fan at the exit of the 8in pipe down in the the crawlspace to isolate the sound and draw much warmer air that is directly radiating from the wood stove. We live near Wasilla and have been heating with wood for over 20 years now. It took me a couple of seasons when we moved to this old house to figure out the most efficient way to spread the wood heat throughout the house. Air heated by a wood stove stratifies with the temp up near the ceiling is much much warmer than the temps at floor level. This is even more pronounced the lower the temp goes and especially in homes with high ceiling. A couple of years ago a friend was having issues with freezing pipes in his basement when the temp dropped to -25. He came up with an ingenious idea. He installed 8in stove pipe in the corner near his wood stove. The pipe extended to within 12 inches of the ceiling, down through the floor and ends 24 inches off of the basement floor. He mounted an 8in rotary fan he bought at one of the dope grow supply places in town. He added a 90 degree section pointing in the direction of his pipes. At the opposite end of the living room he installed a floor vent in the living room to allow the cooler basement air to recirculate back upstairs and eventually be reheated by the wood stove. The fan drew the much warmer heated air down into the pipe and into the basement and the pressure of the fan pushed the cooler air upstairs through the floor vent. He called it a game changer and they now use the basement in the winter thanks to this.
That is what I wanted to do and still do. I just have to find an area for the pipe to pass and it look horrible for Sarah's eyes. I also have to seal the undersides much better. Thank you for taking the time to say all that. I will show it to Sarah and hope we can find a way to make it work better. Your commenting about this may get her to let me do it this way. :-) Glad we have a number of ALaskan's watching us.
That is a great fix for a not having your water tanks freeze
Great job Rob. Thanks for sharing❤
Well done 👍
That looks awesome Rob a hat trick and comedy,. But very handy. John Hogan did good for ya!
Seems to work like a charm
That is a great idea and experiment! I hope you keep us updated.
I am going to track it over the winter and do a update in the spring.
Great info and video. Important for off-gridders in the colder climates to know. Since when is cutting wood boring. 😉
Great idea looks like you've solved the problem!
So far it has been working great. As we get deeper into winter we will really know. I will be tracking it and will post another video in the spring as to how it did.
@@curmudgeinnak Looking forward to it! Good luck!
Nice fix
Rob, you might want to get some fine fiberglass screen material like used on screen doors and lay it over the fan opening to keep debris off the fan.
One of Zeus's toys fall on that fan and stop it it will fry the motor or the wires, just my 2 cents.
already in the works. ;-)
👍👍👍@@curmudgeinnak
What a great idea, at least you won't have frozen water this winter.
That is the plan and hopes. 🙂
That is cool. I have seen videos people making solar heaters out of coke cans and then using same fans to move air. Great video Rob stay warm
Very smart idea on water storage during severe (to me) winter weather!!!
So far it is working. we shall see how it does as we get colder.
Very good idea and nice too meet you too
Nice to meet you as well.
I'm glad it's working out well! Similar to what JR suggested, you could get a cheap furnace filter to set in place over the hole to protect that fan and keep dog hair and debris out. Having that air circulation will also help keep condensation and moisture down in the basement area, preventing mold growth. -Dusty
Sarah is always sweeping so not to much dog fur YET. lol. I will make something to cover it soon. I plan on converting it to 13v instead of the 120 as the system currently draws about a amp 24 hours a day. I would rather save that 24 amps to be used with other stuff. If I convert it it will use maybe .1 amp an hour.
The fan is a really good idea in the summertime. When you want underground natural air conditioning.. so when it's 90° in the house in the summertime you just turn on the fan and it'll pump that 58° are from your crawl space up into your house.
The issue with this in the summer is critters trying to come in. After I get the entire skirting around the house sound and secure I will be doing exactly as you said for summer.
That’s a smart way to fix the problem. You high tech now. Wow a 6 inch never seen a gator that small
It was just a babe in the water.
Cool idea. I will store this away for safe keeping’s Incase we need this idea. Thanks 🇨🇦🌷
Oh wow!! This is genius!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Came over from TuberChat. I'm glad I did since I thought I had subbed previously but it either didn't stick or I hadn't remembered to hit the button. I LOVE seeing how much difference just that little bit of airflow into your crawlspace/basement made!
Hello and Welcome Dawn. Glad you liked the video and I look forward to seeing yours as well. So far it is keeping it from freezing. We shall see as the winter moves on. 🙂
What a great idea looks like it's going to work really good. Stay warm
So far ity is working great.
Great video on how to over-complicate your under the floor crawl space heating. Most of the time your utility water like bathing and laundry and dishes all pretty much require you to heat it anyway.. so make your water storage dual purpose.. rap 10 ft 20 ft of flexible half inch copper around your stove pipe and then have a return line going back to the tank.. it's basically a thermal battery that heat your floor so you don't have to worry about Frozen toes.. think radiant floor heating. Whatever goes up your stove pipe is pretty much wasted heat anyway you're just recovering some of it.. then all you need is a thermostat in each one of your tanks so it makes sure that it doesn't get too low or too hot
Using the tanks as a thermal battery is a good idea. However the use it as a thermal siphon you need to have the tanks higher than the stove. I have been looking for a low power draw water pump that can handle high temps. The Stove has ports in the tank that can be attached to it for doing this. We also have the 24" fire tube that goes inside the firebox for doing this. Again we still need to find that pump. As soon as I find the pump that fits our needs we will be installing a piping system that goes around the tanks and close to the plumbing to help keep it warm.
@@curmudgeinnak my dad is in the process of moving into his new house but he is a dealer for heatmor wood burning boilers. They might have some ideas and maybe I could pass those along to you it might be a week or two off the top of my head I can think of about two dozen different low circulation pumps that handle a high temp but they run on 110 and 240 volts. Maybe he knows something that runs off of 12 or 24 volts
@ 120v works as long as it is not a big load. Our battery bank is smallish for the size of the house.
@curmudgeinnak I think it's only like 60 w. It's a standard circulation motor for a boiler system they pump 2 gallons per minute any heating and cooling place has them. The prices kind of steep it could be $160 I could be $350. But they left a really long time. Running continuously I've seen thim still working 30 years later.. for pumpkins basically it's two metal stainless steel gears so working temp is normally $120 degrees but high temp you could pump steam through it 250 degrees and it's not going to hurt it.. although I would put a thermal switch on your tanks because you really don't want them to be much hotter than a 120° because then you deal with evaporation and then you have problems with under the floor rot. And a thermal switch will shut off the circulation pump.
Very good information. Thank you. I would probably not put it into the tank but run copper around the tanks and let it heat the area that way. The tanks are just 210 gallon truck tanks that you buy from HD. It just needs to keep it above freezing. I was thinking a combination of copper and high temp pex. Thoughts?
I do not know what the layout of your wood stove is, but do you have room either under or next to the wood stove to install an 8in down draft wood stove pipe in the floor into the crawl space? Maybe you could mount the fan at the exit of the 8in pipe down in the the crawlspace to isolate the sound and draw much warmer air that is directly radiating from the wood stove. We live near Wasilla and have been heating with wood for over 20 years now. It took me a couple of seasons when we moved to this old house to figure out the most efficient way to spread the wood heat throughout the house. Air heated by a wood stove stratifies with the temp up near the ceiling is much much warmer than the temps at floor level. This is even more pronounced the lower the temp goes and especially in homes with high ceiling. A couple of years ago a friend was having issues with freezing pipes in his basement when the temp dropped to -25. He came up with an ingenious idea. He installed 8in stove pipe in the corner near his wood stove. The pipe extended to within 12 inches of the ceiling, down through the floor and ends 24 inches off of the basement floor. He mounted an 8in rotary fan he bought at one of the dope grow supply places in town. He added a 90 degree section pointing in the direction of his pipes. At the opposite end of the living room he installed a floor vent in the living room to allow the cooler basement air to recirculate back upstairs and eventually be reheated by the wood stove. The fan drew the much warmer heated air down into the pipe and into the basement and the pressure of the fan pushed the cooler air upstairs through the floor vent. He called it a game changer and they now use the basement in the winter thanks to this.
That is what I wanted to do and still do. I just have to find an area for the pipe to pass and it look horrible for Sarah's eyes. I also have to seal the undersides much better. Thank you for taking the time to say all that. I will show it to Sarah and hope we can find a way to make it work better. Your commenting about this may get her to let me do it this way. :-) Glad we have a number of ALaskan's watching us.
That's a pretty good idea but, way too much technology for me. Can you hear the fan running? If yes, wouldn't it be annoying? Thanks for sharing.
I can hear the sound of wind.
Smart.
It worked great. Getting ready to start setting it up again for this coming winter.
How many takes to get the hat on the camera!? You got skilzz. Nice idea Rob. Thanks for being Awesome. 😊
The hat was on a whim and it worked first shot. Took Sarah two tries to ge it back to me
@@curmudgeinnak You are cooler than me. Do you know you have a live running, with no video feed?
nope did not know that
I will check it
did the liv disapear?
@@curmudgeinnak yes sir, replaced by an upcoming monday live.
How much power does it use ?
a pinch over an amp. I think if I go to direct 12v to the touch screen it will use a lot less.
That is pretty darn cool. and now you have a place to dump your sandwich crumbs when the wife isn't looking.
it is also the dog hair vacuum lol