So many videos focus on how to do maneuvers in perfect conditions whereas you explain very well how to react when don’t go according to plan! Great job!
you should include as a part of your trainings "how not to react to irrelevant noise and shouting from irrelevant people around and not let them set you in panic",I have the feeling this will be the most inquired part of the training. Absolutely critical and sometimes impossible to stay cool headed when so many "helpers" intervene.
Was anchoring with a shore line in a tight spot in Greece last year, lining my anchor between two other vessels in a 46'. The neighbouring boat was screaming at us (they were worried we'd cross their anchor... Which at worst would have mildly inconvenienced them...) and they started shouting instructions to my crew, who started listening to them and ignoring me! The boat was getting into chaos because of it... My Italian partner then screamed "SHUT UP" at them... Which I think surprised them somewhat. Anyway, they went quiet and in the calm we proceeded to anchor _absolutely perfectly_ threading our anchor exactly between the other chains. Shouting at people trying to focus... It can be literally dangerous. If my partner hadn't screamed at them, I was seriously at risk of losing my focus when I needed it most.
For sure you need to focus on your Captain and the Captain need to focus on his task, but I need to say that some skippers they really don't care about the problems they will cause by doing random things, and I don't talk about mistakes, I talk about unwillingness to listen when they clearly have no idea what they are doing just because of their ego and not because of stress or panic. With some skippers we get very highly alerted here in Greece but thats another video coming
Excellent video with very good recommendations for both the Skipper and those who are tyring to help. I also realy like that you do not put the blame just on the Skipper and explain that there are less experienced Skippers out there who occasionaly get caught in a situation that they are not yet well equiped to deal with. I have been there a few times as I am sure have most skippers, and can say 100% that being shouted at makes it much more stressfull and that receiving calm clear suggestions from people that know what they are doing realy helps.
Dear Captain, I have the same credentials as you and teach in Nieuwpoort Belgium where we do not anchor much and do not have concrete mooring lines, rings on rocks and all the special situations that exist in Greece. I learned a lot and my favorite trick from you is the video about entangled anchorchains on once anchor, super easy trick! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and videos! ❤
Dear @maesjanjaap I followed the sailboat maneuvering courses in Nieuwpoort. One of the most important advice they give is : do not listen to the people yelling orders from the dock, especially in the Mediterranean area. This is one of the most useful advice, and this is aligned with this video :)
Teacher, thank you for the instruction and clear explanation. I really enjoy these videos. Some day I will come visit and enjoy the benefit of my learning
As always excellent advice from Captain Alexandros. Hooks, hands and feet...screams. Absolute nightmare. Fenders, fenders, fenders. If you have to say something, be specific and don't panic. Screaming won't make accidents go away...
Thanks for great advise. BUT the skipper in the first video had his limits trespassed the moment he put his feet on that cockpit. Full thrust in those situations is never recommendable, specially when you don’t know what you are doing. The guy was probably in full stress and unluckily not a good soul showed up to give him a real hand. Fantastic set of recommendations at the end of the video !
Great advice and well explained. I have crewed in the past for some very panicked skippers who gun the engine all the time and it never ended well. I have learned to be calm and never to panic as it infects the crew and doesnt help you to make good decisions.
Very very good, I am skipper in a a very windy area of the Algarve and have witnessed this situation many a time. Those two very good points, STOP and slow things down. 2. PANIC, the aggravator of all situations.
Spooky: the Ermione video popped into my feed just after I returned from sailing in the Sporades. As I watched it I thought to myself it would be great to have Alexandros's comments on the video. And just 2 days later, lo and behold! Great and thoughtful video as aways
This reminds me of an instance when I entered a marina in the Caribbean, the crew had a plan to dock in windy conditions but the plan was cut short by the marina manager interfering with the maneuver, jumping on the boat and being unhelpful. Sometimes the best approach is to ignore people who want to help from the dock.
Thank you for your instruction videos! I have been sailing on the lakes as a skipper for many years and preparing myself to go on the sea for the first time. Most likely in Greece, so your lessons are very valuable 🙏Keep up the good work 👍👏
Dear Friend, Cpt, Instructor thanks a lot for YR PRICELESS value U provide for those undesirable situations. If U allow me, I add : 1) the general 4rules: APPRAISE & PLAN (before entering the gulf/port by meeting with YR crew) -EXECUTE (while docking) - MONITOR (after docking, what went CORRECTLY & WRONG with YR crew) Last, but NOT least, if U can't avoid DAMAGE , while docking , AVOID 100% the human injury and choose the most subtle (smooth) vessel damage. Thanks in advance YRS sincerely Cpt Alexandros
I've been at very same Ermioni north port and in very similar conditions (wind direction, strenght). I even helped another monohull to dock at "end of the pier on the inside". The boat was not a charter and captain looked not in a panick but rather frustrated to make the boat to close the gap to the pier with lines already stretched full length out (wind pushing stern away). And this is what I was taught at the sailing school - it is ok to help other boats to dock or relase the lines, even welcomed in a sailors community. But, you always do only what the captain asks you to even though you migt know a better way. It goes two fold - it is a liability thing - in the end who is the captain(?), he (or she) might not be ready to execute what you are asking. And you let the captain do his thing, his way, he must know condition of the boat and capabilities the best. So, it took awhile but eventually he got it done. Of course, you also don't watch disaster happening, if you get asked for a help or you have a chance to stop disaster without puting self or others under risk, you do what has to be done.
Good video !! going to Alimos next week, and those tips are always a good reminder before taking the boat Will use some of them for the security briefing to the crew before leaving .. thanks !
Many thanks for these two lessons. Better to learn from others' mistakes. Your analysis is very thorough and conclusions totally make sense. You are a wise man. Thank you
Dear Sir, Thank you for your Video. I m not sure that in such a situation, i could keep my coolness, either if i m the captain of the boat devastating his neighbourhood, or if I m the captain of rhe boat being devasted by a overwehlmed captain, but it is nice and important that you put it in words and video: coolness helps a lot, always. Try to remember it. Good advice. Also, next time i m in miserable Position, and thinking that some stupid bystander are filming my misery on their phone, which will increase my stress, at least, I will try to remember not only staying cool, but also that may be my filmed misery will make it up to you, and you will make from my problem a teaching leason for others about what to do and don t, with words that are not making fun or stupid the captain that is completly overwehlmed in the moment. Great job. Good contribution to peacefull sailing experiences. Next time please do one on anchoring and lenght of anchor chain for catamaran. As we see the catastroph of heavy winds in mallorca, i think anchoring always need a good advice. Best regards
Great lessons, I like these videos. Don't listen to people that are panicked is a great advice. In sailing regattas, its a common (and disgusting) psychological tacktick to create confusion to other competitors by headless shouting of nonsense information when in close encounters.
One of the best things you said was PREPARE. That first yacht appeared to have no lines ready at all (that I could see). There were a couple of points where a line could have been passed and a turn taken on the stern of the already moored yacht, which could have change the game entirely (if they also had a bow line for when the boat was drawn astern). It helps to give the crew some instructions as well :-).
Absolutely great content! I am so happy I found your channel. Thank you so much. Unfortunately some people dont know how to communicate without screaming.
Again excellent video and analysis. Thanks for this. Small suggestion: can you perhaps draw a diagram showing the boats, the wind direction + the (magnitude of) the forces that are acting on the boats (e.g. wind on the bow has much greater effect than the bow thruster) and the position of the ruther and anchor/mooring lines. And use this diagram to explain what goes wrong and what would have been a better action. This would make it even more clear. Once again: thanks & please keep posting more videos like this! R.
Mate! A great video once again! I live on Aegina and see lots of this, good and bad manouvers altogether 😅👍🏻 Good advice, it should be a mandatory video before chartering a bareboat!
One important point is that to be able to manoeuvre in these conditions you must know how to control de boat going astern. That makes life much easier.😊
We plan to go to Greece first time for sail soon. In similar situation can one get help from Marina personnel? From shore or power boat? Like in Croatia? Clear instruction from such trained personnel can cut such cases through quick and damage free.
@@epicnavigator we are trained sailors. However, never sailed in Greece. Where do we find you for a short training on Aegean sea and the anchor mooring exercises? Thank you in advance. Balazs and the crew
No! The skipper is to blame. The skipper made the decision to approach the dock in those weather conditions. The skipper was at the helm. Responsibility for the consequences lies solely with him. The observers could have helped, they could have not helped, they could have filmed videos or sung songs, or anything else, because they are just observers who are not responsible for a specific vessel, its crew, or the management of that vessel.
Better soften your opinion a little bit, especially when you come to Greece. We are very well known for our hospitality and how helpful we are to all the respectful visitors from overseas and their failure is our failure as well. Much love from Greece
0:03 @@epicnavigator in England we have a saying: you can take a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. I think the whole point of your video was lost on @serhiy34
They say that mooring is a contact sport but probably not to this extent. Why try and dock in high winds in a crowded marina. Anchor and wait for the wind to die down.
I'm for the first time in Greece with my old long keel french boat. No way to moor backwards with anchor, she will never go strait astern... without mooring line only possibility for me is to stay out in the bay anchoring free swing or find a place alongside. Any suggestion ?
The problem is, it seems to me, that all too many people think they can steer a boat just like a car. The great mistake is, that a car is steering by the front wheels, while the boat is steering just like a forklift, by the "back wheels". The first yachter in this video does just that, and his rear end is swinging all over the place. Like a forklift.
There is two important factors that makes a car different to a car: if no speed no steering (except catamarans and bowthrusters, and maybe some blade spinning rotation effect which is small) and the more important difference is that boats steering delays. If you turn the steering wheel in a car, the car will instantly change its direction and in a boat it means that you just aplied a rotating force to the hull which will rotate eventually and it's shape will give a force which will change your direction. It takes time, the slower the speed the longer this time, so that's why you need to be calm, and know exactly what your boat will going to do when you rotate the steering wheel in a situation, you have to know how long you have to wait instead panicking if the boat doesn't turn instantly when you spinning the wheel in fear.
I sailed a heavy displacement long keeled boat. The easiest way in any tight situation was to switch off the engine and go alongside and manouvre only with lines. Nobody bothered shouting instructions because there was no engine and everything could be done with the lines.
Lovely video. It's boating - things go wrong - we mess up. Stop the shouting and revving! Instead - plan ahead - be calm - shut down if necessary - fenders - clear measured manoeuvres. I'll be doing more of this. Thank you.
Prepare before every action. If you feel uncomfortable mooring somewhere, look elsewhere. In the end you are there to have a good time, it's not worth stressing over a mooring space.
Quite a few (undeserved) negative comments on the captain's skills.. Sure, he was out of his depth in the first video, but stress leads to panic, and leads to stupid decisions (all you want at that point is to be not there, and you try to get yourself at all costs out of that situation). We've all been there to some degree at one point or another in our sailing careers (we all start from zero). Choose the wrong port for the weather because of some plans or schedule, after too long a leg, arrive too late, with an untrained crew of friends, unsure on a newly chartered unfamiliar boat, shouting panicky people on land.. all stress factors to avoid. Choose ports based on wind predictions and shelter predictions, stay another day if it is getting too late to depart (or go out and go back in to your berth for practicing), be generous in your time planning, communicate with your crew, and don't try to correct mistakes by adding more manoeuvres (add time and rest if you can to start thinking again). Reverse, go out and try anew. Thanks for the nice run-through of the video!
I am a 57 year old professional, I have been on boats and the sea waters for as long as I can remember. I have had a professional career in the yachting sector for more than 20 years. In my opinion, in such places, the port authority should definitely make an arrangement and have professional personnel at the entrances and exits, the maneuvers should be done by professional personnel and the boat crew should pay for this service. Such an arrangement will be beneficial to both the local workforce, safer for the boats in the port and the approaching boats, and will prevent major accidents and damages and most importantly, prevent people from getting injured. Insurance companies, charter companies, private boat owners and port authorities will primarily benefit from such a situation. It will be a win-win situation for everyone.
@@helmshardover It is clear that you have not been harmed by similar situations. There must be other ways to learn.. It is even a crazier idea to harm the health and assets of others while learning. You need to experience the same thing to understand such a situation. I hope it does not happen to you..
The fundamental problem is in training and experience. When you learn to sail a sailboat, sails are in focus. Unfortunately very few learn how to manuever using a motor. Clearly shown in the movie, where wrong rudder position pushes the stern into the neighbors, rather than away. This is not the right place for advice in this respect. Study books on single screw manuevering (motor boats), and go test it out.
I always try to be polite with everyone because it is encouraging people to comment so other people get the information they need but there are moments that I cannot really accept this kind of toxicity and misguiding. You came, you watched the video, you comment, you say that people should not get information from the video (exactly what you did) and you encouraging them to read books about maneuvers and then go and test them. Tell me now what should I think about you?
But how in a name of God he manage to “park” boat ACROSS all other boats ?! OK it is windy , but he can use wind : as power or as brake ! I really do not understand how he put himself ( and boat , and crew) in such , rather stupid, than dangerous situation ?! If it happens in tight marina , with another boats on the other side , if there is a Meltemi… but in this sitauation . With (over )powered boat , with wheel steering AND bow truster !! And all that open sea in front . He can drive slow , easy and smooth to (oversized) berth for almost half mile !! And , if he fails - try again . I agreed with you . These guys have just basic knowledge , zero practice and they rent too big boats . I remember of the age when 30ft was nice big yacht , while novices usually rent some 20ft sailer camper . Renting 50 ft sail boat is like you just pass driving exam , and your first car is - bus !
Am sorry, but the full responsibility lies with the captains who try to dock a boat in conditions that are well above their capabilities. If you are not confident you can moor the boat without causing a lot of damage.................stay out, drop your anchor and stay there. If you don't want to be on anchor...........hire a captain and let him moor the boat. For the charter companies ? I know the money is nice, but if people are incapable of mooring a boat, don't let them rent a boat without a captain. There are other people in those ports, people who actually own their own boat and as we all know charter companies will not pay for any damage caused by their clients. Charter companies will simply say that the client has to pay for the damage and that means starting a court case in a far away country. To say that the people on the shore are the cause of the problems of the first boat is so far beyond reality that it makes me sick. That captain (if you can call him a captain) should have never ever tried to bring the boat in. The guy was completely incapable, did not have a clue and we all know you can bring a boat in without causing damage. It is not mandatory to be on the pier, you can also be on anchor. Stop this BS by blaming others for P*ss Poor decisions by a client.
@@epicnavigator did it ever cross your mind that I might be one of the boat owners who has to deal with charter guests that don't know how to control their boat ? We normally stay on anchor for this particular reason, but even there we get confronted by charter boats, that don't know how to anchor, end up hanging on your anchor chain or even pulling your anchor chain out while we are on the shore. We do have an anchor marker buoy to indicate where out anchor is, but that does not seem to bother them. They have no clue what that anchor marker buoy is for. We have had people tie up to our anchor marker buoy, even when it clearly states 'this is not a mooring buoy' It is nice that companies want to make profit by renting out boats, but is it too much to ask to check whether these people have a license, know how to do a Med mooring and know the Colregs ? You cannot rent a car without a license, but you can rent a 60' sailing vessel without any license whatsoever. Last year in Sifnos I had to swim to a sailing vessel in order to take control of it and bring it into a berth after the charter guests (man and wife, 58' sailing yacht) had gone into a brain freeze when they realized they could not maneuver their boat at all when they entered the port. They were just drifting into other boats. We have had our fair share of damage already and I know first hand that charter companies simply point to the charter guests. The charter company refused to pay, so in the end I was paying for the damage their clients caused to my boat. So, you may be angry that I made my comment, but instead you might accept some responsibility by acknowledging the fact that there are loads of people who are allowed to go out with a boat, when in reality they should not be allowed on the water without a licensed skipper (provided by the charter company) onboard.
@@davedavids9619 I respect every opinion and I am really sorry for all the trouble you are having and trust me on that, every boat owner have to deal with that...this is the seaman's life. I will kindly ask you though, not to use the anchor marker buoy, its something completely useless and it only creates more drama, as you already mention
@@epicnavigator this is not the seaman's life, this is the life charter companies, looking for quick money, are giving to us. We should not accept that low standard, we have to get the authorities and insurances to start enforcing regulations. Not a single person, without a license should be able to rent any boat and take it out to sea. It is just like renting a car.......you need a license. No license ? No boat or you hire a captain. For the overall safety on the water it is also better. As for the anchor marker buoy, it has a double function. Not only does it identify where my anchor is, making it easier for others to avoid crossing anchor chains (some do need some additional encouraging to avoid our anchor), it is also a means for me to be able to get my anchor out if it is stuck on the bottom for some reason, behind rocks etc. The only thing I need to do is get that line and pull my anchor out. The first rule in anchoring will always remain to anchor safely, which means you will not become a hazard to yourself or a hazard to others. Just because you want to be in an anchorage does not mean you can be there. If the anchorage is full because you showed up late, you go out and find another anchorage or you stay out at sea. You have no birth right to an anchorage, hope you can agree with that. If you have ever heard of the admiralty you should know their manual of seamanship and you will also know that they prescribe an anchor chain length, in shackles, to be 1.5 the square root of the depth in meters. The RYA states 4 x depth, which is half of what the admiralty and IACS prescribe. Now, why do you think that is ? It is all to accommodate commercial enterprise. Only problem is that I used to work in the Coast Guard and have dealt with unsafe issues at sea for a very long time. Everything is fine until it goes wrong and then everybody suddenly understands. We know what is safe, but some will only act safe when it is too late and we all know the sea can kill. That is why we have certifications and that is why we should never shove them in a corner. I understand you are an instructor. I saw some of your other videos and you do know how to handle a vessel. But the instructors are the only ones who can teach new sailors how to handle their boat. If you don't do it........who will ? So am sorry, but I expect higher standards of an instructor. You are the person that should install safety in the minds of your students. You should not set them free just for commercial reasons. If someone cannot control his vessel, he or she does not belong on the water. May not like that statement, but lives are at stakes. If you don't believe me we will meet up one day and I will tell you a few stories of people who went out on the water and paid with their lives. And yes, I was one of the people who had to go out and recover them. So please, don't come and lecture me what a seaman's life is all about, you are barking up the wrong tree. You are lecturing a commercial life, that is something different. If you are truly a safety minded instructor you will know that what I tell you right now is true. If you still don't know, send me your e-mail address, i will be back in Greece (Corfu / Preveza) by mid October (currently in Croatia with our boat) and I will be more than happy to meet up. You are a good instructor, you know how to handle a boat, now make the last step to installing that safety minded behavior in whoever watches this channel. Just remember: 'when safety is your enemy, accident is your friend' Take care.
@@epicnavigator Aha, I see you are Greek? These island chains have seen navigators since the dawn of civilisation. If I understand correctly, the sea floor is littered with wrecks from as early as 2000 BCE ? I am genuinely fascinated by the history of navigation and trade in the Mediterranean basin, but especially the Aegean. One thing I was looking at recently was whether the various regional winds and storms are the same ones today as 3-4000 years ago? And were there any tricks early navigators had to survive them, or did they just trust to luck? The storms and shipwrecks are a central topic of all the Greek myths. Fascinating stuff.
So many videos focus on how to do maneuvers in perfect conditions whereas you explain very well how to react when don’t go according to plan! Great job!
you should include as a part of your trainings "how not to react to irrelevant noise and shouting from irrelevant people around and not let them set you in panic",I have the feeling this will be the most inquired part of the training. Absolutely critical and sometimes impossible to stay cool headed when so many "helpers" intervene.
Was anchoring with a shore line in a tight spot in Greece last year, lining my anchor between two other vessels in a 46'. The neighbouring boat was screaming at us (they were worried we'd cross their anchor... Which at worst would have mildly inconvenienced them...) and they started shouting instructions to my crew, who started listening to them and ignoring me! The boat was getting into chaos because of it... My Italian partner then screamed "SHUT UP" at them... Which I think surprised them somewhat.
Anyway, they went quiet and in the calm we proceeded to anchor _absolutely perfectly_ threading our anchor exactly between the other chains.
Shouting at people trying to focus... It can be literally dangerous. If my partner hadn't screamed at them, I was seriously at risk of losing my focus when I needed it most.
For sure you need to focus on your Captain and the Captain need to focus on his task, but I need to say that some skippers they really don't care about the problems they will cause by doing random things, and I don't talk about mistakes, I talk about unwillingness to listen when they clearly have no idea what they are doing just because of their ego and not because of stress or panic. With some skippers we get very highly alerted here in Greece but thats another video coming
Excellent video with very good recommendations for both the Skipper and those who are tyring to help. I also realy like that you do not put the blame just on the Skipper and explain that there are less experienced Skippers out there who occasionaly get caught in a situation that they are not yet well equiped to deal with. I have been there a few times as I am sure have most skippers, and can say 100% that being shouted at makes it much more stressfull and that receiving calm clear suggestions from people that know what they are doing realy helps.
Dear Captain, I have the same credentials as you and teach in Nieuwpoort Belgium where we do not anchor much and do not have concrete mooring lines, rings on rocks and all the special situations that exist in Greece. I learned a lot and my favorite trick from you is the video about entangled anchorchains on once anchor, super easy trick! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and videos! ❤
Dear @maesjanjaap I followed the sailboat maneuvering courses in Nieuwpoort. One of the most important advice they give is : do not listen to the people yelling orders from the dock, especially in the Mediterranean area. This is one of the most useful advice, and this is aligned with this video :)
Teacher, thank you for the instruction and clear explanation. I really enjoy these videos. Some day I will come visit and enjoy the benefit of my learning
Excellent advice as always, thank you for sharing your knowledge, much appreciated.
As always excellent advice from Captain Alexandros. Hooks, hands and feet...screams. Absolute nightmare. Fenders, fenders, fenders. If you have to say something, be specific and don't panic. Screaming won't make accidents go away...
Thanks for great advise. BUT the skipper in the first video had his limits trespassed the moment he put his feet on that cockpit. Full thrust in those situations is never recommendable, specially when you don’t know what you are doing. The guy was probably in full stress and unluckily not a good soul showed up to give him a real hand. Fantastic set of recommendations at the end of the video !
Again, a great Video, with a lot of useful information in a short time. Thank you.
Great advice and well explained. I have crewed in the past for some very panicked skippers who gun the engine all the time and it never ended well. I have learned to be calm and never to panic as it infects the crew and doesnt help you to make good decisions.
All is good in your explenations, congratulations. I ve been sailing as non professional skipper for 30 years, and done my stock of mistakes
Very very good, I am skipper in a a very windy area of the Algarve and have witnessed this situation many a time. Those two very good points, STOP and slow things down. 2. PANIC, the aggravator of all situations.
very windy - Algarve...
@@OGillo2001 Certainly Lagos
Spooky: the Ermione video popped into my feed just after I returned from sailing in the Sporades. As I watched it I thought to myself it would be great to have Alexandros's comments on the video. And just 2 days later, lo and behold!
Great and thoughtful video as aways
Coincidence...but if you send me a video asking for review I would be glad to do it
Great video
Great situation analysis and explanations
Thanks for the valuable advices much appreciated.
Keep them coming please.
This reminds me of an instance when I entered a marina in the Caribbean, the crew had a plan to dock in windy conditions but the plan was cut short by the marina manager interfering with the maneuver, jumping on the boat and being unhelpful. Sometimes the best approach is to ignore people who want to help from the dock.
Thank you for your instruction videos! I have been sailing on the lakes as a skipper for many years and preparing myself to go on the sea for the first time. Most likely in Greece, so your lessons are very valuable 🙏Keep up the good work 👍👏
Dear Friend, Cpt, Instructor thanks a lot for YR PRICELESS value U provide for those undesirable situations. If U allow me, I add :
1) the general 4rules: APPRAISE & PLAN (before entering the gulf/port by meeting with YR crew) -EXECUTE (while docking) - MONITOR (after docking, what went CORRECTLY & WRONG with YR crew)
Last, but NOT least, if U can't avoid DAMAGE , while docking , AVOID 100% the human injury and choose the most subtle (smooth) vessel damage.
Thanks in advance
YRS sincerely Cpt Alexandros
I appreciate the comment captain
Thanks for this video, there is much I need to learn though I loved the sea for many years.
I've been at very same Ermioni north port and in very similar conditions (wind direction, strenght). I even helped another monohull to dock at "end of the pier on the inside". The boat was not a charter and captain looked not in a panick but rather frustrated to make the boat to close the gap to the pier with lines already stretched full length out (wind pushing stern away).
And this is what I was taught at the sailing school - it is ok to help other boats to dock or relase the lines, even welcomed in a sailors community. But, you always do only what the captain asks you to even though you migt know a better way. It goes two fold - it is a liability thing - in the end who is the captain(?), he (or she) might not be ready to execute what you are asking. And you let the captain do his thing, his way, he must know condition of the boat and capabilities the best. So, it took awhile but eventually he got it done.
Of course, you also don't watch disaster happening, if you get asked for a help or you have a chance to stop disaster without puting self or others under risk, you do what has to be done.
Good video !!
going to Alimos next week, and those tips are always a good reminder before taking the boat
Will use some of them for the security briefing to the crew before leaving ..
thanks !
Many thanks for these two lessons. Better to learn from others' mistakes. Your analysis is very thorough and conclusions totally make sense. You are a wise man. Thank you
Great, great video!! I'm learning a lot from you!! I have discovered your channel a bit late, but it's never too late!!
❤ Good video and correkt summary of the situations, imo. Bravo!
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your Video.
I m not sure that in such a situation, i could keep my coolness, either if i m the captain of the boat devastating his neighbourhood, or if I m the captain of rhe boat being devasted by a overwehlmed captain, but it is nice and important that you put it in words and video: coolness helps a lot, always. Try to remember it. Good advice.
Also, next time i m in miserable Position, and thinking that some stupid bystander are filming my misery on their phone, which will increase my stress, at least, I will try to remember not only staying cool, but also that may be my filmed misery will make it up to you, and you will make from my problem a teaching leason for others about what to do and don t, with words that are not making fun or stupid the captain that is completly overwehlmed in the moment.
Great job. Good contribution to peacefull sailing experiences.
Next time please do one on anchoring and lenght of anchor chain for catamaran. As we see the catastroph of heavy winds in mallorca, i think anchoring always need a good advice.
Best regards
Great lessons, I like these videos. Don't listen to people that are panicked is a great advice. In sailing regattas, its a common (and disgusting) psychological tacktick to create confusion to other competitors by headless shouting of nonsense information when in close encounters.
Thx a lot for these very helpful explanations 😊
One of the best things you said was PREPARE.
That first yacht appeared to have no lines ready at all (that I could see).
There were a couple of points where a line could have been passed and a turn taken on the stern of the already moored yacht, which could have change the game entirely (if they also had a bow line for when the boat was drawn astern).
It helps to give the crew some instructions as well :-).
Absolutely great content! I am so happy I found your channel. Thank you so much. Unfortunately some people dont know how to communicate without screaming.
Great example of how to handle terrible momenti while docking, great for beginers to mature in sailing.
Very useful tips, high valued information in this video.
Ευχαριστούμε πολυ!
Very nice explenation of this two situation.
Again excellent video and analysis. Thanks for this. Small suggestion: can you perhaps draw a diagram showing the boats, the wind direction + the (magnitude of) the forces that are acting on the boats (e.g. wind on the bow has much greater effect than the bow thruster) and the position of the ruther and anchor/mooring lines. And use this diagram to explain what goes wrong and what would have been a better action. This would make it even more clear. Once again: thanks & please keep posting more videos like this! R.
Excellent insight once again, thank you!
Mate! A great video once again! I live on Aegina and see lots of this, good and bad manouvers altogether 😅👍🏻 Good advice, it should be a mandatory video before chartering a bareboat!
Great video, excellent analysis, I like the advice best: never listen to people who are more panicked than you are 🙌
I love your videos -thanks.
You give very good advice and seem like a very nice guy too!
Thanks!
I appreciate it! 🙏
that was epic 👍 Thank you.
very good advices, all of this is so true !
Great advice... Bravo 👏👏👏
Another great video my friend 🙏🏼⛵⚓🏴☠️💪🏼🧭❤️
Awesome videos. We all can learn from each other.
Great video, thank you
I miss watching the afternoon rush to stern moor at town quays, so much entertainment!!
The entertainment is great until its you in the cross-hairs 😂
Parabéns, ótimo vídeo
Thank you for the excellent video.
The best way to get out of trouble is to do all the necessary to avoid getting into the situation leading to trouble.
Great advice!
Great advice overall. The only thing missing is "get some tsipouro when you're done"
Great content!
Very good advices! Thank you so much. Are you offering any sailing trips?
Appart from weekly courses I very rarely do just charter trips. I do it only for people I know will appreciate my effort
One important point is that to be able to manoeuvre in these conditions you must know how to control de boat going astern.
That makes life much easier.😊
Great comments thanks!!
I'm here for the greek accent, beautiful !
I do my best for my fans😎
We plan to go to Greece first time for sail soon. In similar situation can one get help from Marina personnel? From shore or power boat? Like in Croatia? Clear instruction from such trained personnel can cut such cases through quick and damage free.
There are no people dedicated for this task but in Greece, if you speak to a Greek professional skipper, he will do whatever it takes to help you
@@epicnavigator we are trained sailors. However, never sailed in Greece. Where do we find you for a short training on Aegean sea and the anchor mooring exercises? Thank you in advance. Balazs and the crew
@@balazssalacz7763 You can send me message in social media to arrange training. I am based in Athens Greece
@@epicnavigator sorry, I only have Whatsup. No FB, no social media. So how do we find you, please? Efaristo. Balazs
@@balazssalacz7763 my Whatsapp +306943936083
Very cool commentary :)
Thank you for this great video. Do you give any sailing lessons and if yes, where can i book them ?
Thank you! Yes I do courses, Send me a message on social media below or contact with Whatsapp
No! The skipper is to blame. The skipper made the decision to approach the dock in those weather conditions. The skipper was at the helm. Responsibility for the consequences lies solely with him. The observers could have helped, they could have not helped, they could have filmed videos or sung songs, or anything else, because they are just observers who are not responsible for a specific vessel, its crew, or the management of that vessel.
Better soften your opinion a little bit, especially when you come to Greece.
We are very well known for our hospitality and how helpful we are to all the respectful visitors from overseas and their failure is our failure as well.
Much love from Greece
0:03 @@epicnavigator in England we have a saying: you can take a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. I think the whole point of your video was lost on @serhiy34
I have a very big ballon fender which saved me a few times of damage!
They say that mooring is a contact sport but probably not to this extent. Why try and dock in high winds in a crowded marina. Anchor and wait for the wind to die down.
Very accurate comment
I'm for the first time in Greece with my old long keel french boat. No way to moor backwards with anchor, she will never go strait astern... without mooring line only possibility for me is to stay out in the bay anchoring free swing or find a place alongside. Any suggestion ?
Where are you now? We can give it a try together
@@epicnavigator that would be grate, I'm in pilos..
The problem is, it seems to me, that all too many people think they can steer a boat just like a car.
The great mistake is, that a car is steering by the front wheels, while the boat is steering just like a forklift, by the "back wheels".
The first yachter in this video does just that, and his rear end is swinging all over the place. Like a forklift.
There is two important factors that makes a car different to a car: if no speed no steering (except catamarans and bowthrusters, and maybe some blade spinning rotation effect which is small) and the more important difference is that boats steering delays. If you turn the steering wheel in a car, the car will instantly change its direction and in a boat it means that you just aplied a rotating force to the hull which will rotate eventually and it's shape will give a force which will change your direction. It takes time, the slower the speed the longer this time, so that's why you need to be calm, and know exactly what your boat will going to do when you rotate the steering wheel in a situation, you have to know how long you have to wait instead panicking if the boat doesn't turn instantly when you spinning the wheel in fear.
@@johnny427 You should go into the differences in steering geometry before pulling such «facts» from your bellybutton.
I sailed a heavy displacement long keeled boat. The easiest way in any tight situation was to switch off the engine and go alongside and manouvre only with lines. Nobody bothered shouting instructions because there was no engine and everything could be done with the lines.
Lovely video. It's boating - things go wrong - we mess up. Stop the shouting and revving! Instead - plan ahead - be calm - shut down if necessary - fenders - clear measured manoeuvres. I'll be doing more of this. Thank you.
Prepare before every action. If you feel uncomfortable mooring somewhere, look elsewhere. In the end you are there to have a good time, it's not worth stressing over a mooring space.
Quite a few (undeserved) negative comments on the captain's skills.. Sure, he was out of his depth in the first video, but stress leads to panic, and leads to stupid decisions (all you want at that point is to be not there, and you try to get yourself at all costs out of that situation).
We've all been there to some degree at one point or another in our sailing careers (we all start from zero). Choose the wrong port for the weather because of some plans or schedule, after too long a leg, arrive too late, with an untrained crew of friends, unsure on a newly chartered unfamiliar boat, shouting panicky people on land.. all stress factors to avoid.
Choose ports based on wind predictions and shelter predictions, stay another day if it is getting too late to depart (or go out and go back in to your berth for practicing), be generous in your time planning, communicate with your crew, and don't try to correct mistakes by adding more manoeuvres (add time and rest if you can to start thinking again). Reverse, go out and try anew.
Thanks for the nice run-through of the video!
4:00 he is actually pretty specific, he yells: "rudder to starboard! rudder to starboard you moron!!" (Romanian here :D )
Docking PTSD... "traumatic for the rest of your life" 😂
Correct!
No speed, no damage!
Υπάρχουν άτομα που δεν μπορούν να οδηγήσουν καλά ένα αυτοκίνητο, το ίδιο ισχύει και σε ένα σκάφος
Don't force your docking maneuver. If you can see that it will fail swim away for another round and adjust.
How can I contact you directly?
My Whatsapp number is +306943936083. Its is also available email to the channel information.
Let me know if you need anything else.
I am a 57 year old professional, I have been on boats and the sea waters for as long as I can remember. I have had a professional career in the yachting sector for more than 20 years. In my opinion, in such places, the port authority should definitely make an arrangement and have professional personnel at the entrances and exits, the maneuvers should be done by professional personnel and the boat crew should pay for this service. Such an arrangement will be beneficial to both the local workforce, safer for the boats in the port and the approaching boats, and will prevent major accidents and damages and most importantly, prevent people from getting injured. Insurance companies, charter companies, private boat owners and port authorities will primarily benefit from such a situation. It will be a win-win situation for everyone.
That's a very good point! I wish it will become reality soon
Except nobody will learn to do anything for themselves.
Crazy idea.
@@helmshardover It is clear that you have not been harmed by similar situations. There must be other ways to learn.. It is even a crazier idea to harm the health and assets of others while learning. You need to experience the same thing to understand such a situation. I hope it does not happen to you..
@@nilcansucuklarilhandemir8706 Much better to make a boat handling course compulsory than what you're suggesting.
The fundamental problem is in training and experience. When you learn to sail a sailboat, sails are in focus. Unfortunately very few learn how to manuever using a motor. Clearly shown in the movie, where wrong rudder position pushes the stern into the neighbors, rather than away.
This is not the right place for advice in this respect. Study books on single screw manuevering (motor boats), and go test it out.
I always try to be polite with everyone because it is encouraging people to comment so other people get the information they need but there are moments that I cannot really accept this kind of toxicity and misguiding.
You came, you watched the video, you comment, you say that people should not get information from the video (exactly what you did) and you encouraging them to read books about maneuvers and then go and test them. Tell me now what should I think about you?
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You just hope they have a good insurance
But how in a name of God he manage to “park” boat ACROSS all other boats ?!
OK it is windy , but he can use wind : as power or as brake !
I really do not understand how he put himself ( and boat , and crew) in such , rather stupid, than dangerous situation ?! If it happens in tight marina , with another boats on the other side , if there is a Meltemi… but in this sitauation . With (over )powered boat , with wheel steering AND bow truster !! And all that open sea in front . He can drive slow , easy and smooth to (oversized) berth for almost half mile !!
And , if he fails - try again .
I agreed with you . These guys have just basic knowledge , zero practice and they rent too big boats .
I remember of the age when 30ft was nice big yacht , while novices usually rent some 20ft sailer camper .
Renting 50 ft sail boat is like you just pass driving exam , and your first car is - bus !
If the wind push you to the bows of the other boats then you don't have a lot of time to react and it happens all the timw
Am sorry, but the full responsibility lies with the captains who try to dock a boat in conditions that are well above their capabilities. If you are not confident you can moor the boat without causing a lot of damage.................stay out, drop your anchor and stay there. If you don't want to be on anchor...........hire a captain and let him moor the boat.
For the charter companies ?
I know the money is nice, but if people are incapable of mooring a boat, don't let them rent a boat without a captain.
There are other people in those ports, people who actually own their own boat and as we all know charter companies will not pay for any damage caused by their clients. Charter companies will simply say that the client has to pay for the damage and that means starting a court case in a far away country.
To say that the people on the shore are the cause of the problems of the first boat is so far beyond reality that it makes me sick. That captain (if you can call him a captain) should have never ever tried to bring the boat in. The guy was completely incapable, did not have a clue and we all know you can bring a boat in without causing damage. It is not mandatory to be on the pier, you can also be on anchor.
Stop this BS by blaming others for P*ss Poor decisions by a client.
I can respect every opinion and also I can understand that if something makes you sick then you can either stop watching it or get some medication
@@epicnavigator did it ever cross your mind that I might be one of the boat owners who has to deal with charter guests that don't know how to control their boat ? We normally stay on anchor for this particular reason, but even there we get confronted by charter boats, that don't know how to anchor, end up hanging on your anchor chain or even pulling your anchor chain out while we are on the shore.
We do have an anchor marker buoy to indicate where out anchor is, but that does not seem to bother them. They have no clue what that anchor marker buoy is for. We have had people tie up to our anchor marker buoy, even when it clearly states 'this is not a mooring buoy'
It is nice that companies want to make profit by renting out boats, but is it too much to ask to check whether these people have a license, know how to do a Med mooring and know the Colregs ?
You cannot rent a car without a license, but you can rent a 60' sailing vessel without any license whatsoever.
Last year in Sifnos I had to swim to a sailing vessel in order to take control of it and bring it into a berth after the charter guests (man and wife, 58' sailing yacht) had gone into a brain freeze when they realized they could not maneuver their boat at all when they entered the port. They were just drifting into other boats.
We have had our fair share of damage already and I know first hand that charter companies simply point to the charter guests. The charter company refused to pay, so in the end I was paying for the damage their clients caused to my boat.
So, you may be angry that I made my comment, but instead you might accept some responsibility by acknowledging the fact that there are loads of people who are allowed to go out with a boat, when in reality they should not be allowed on the water without a licensed skipper (provided by the charter company) onboard.
@@davedavids9619 I respect every opinion and I am really sorry for all the trouble you are having and trust me on that, every boat owner have to deal with that...this is the seaman's life.
I will kindly ask you though, not to use the anchor marker buoy, its something completely useless and it only creates more drama, as you already mention
@@epicnavigator this is not the seaman's life, this is the life charter companies, looking for quick money, are giving to us. We should not accept that low standard, we have to get the authorities and insurances to start enforcing regulations. Not a single person, without a license should be able to rent any boat and take it out to sea. It is just like renting a car.......you need a license. No license ? No boat or you hire a captain. For the overall safety on the water it is also better.
As for the anchor marker buoy, it has a double function. Not only does it identify where my anchor is, making it easier for others to avoid crossing anchor chains (some do need some additional encouraging to avoid our anchor), it is also a means for me to be able to get my anchor out if it is stuck on the bottom for some reason, behind rocks etc. The only thing I need to do is get that line and pull my anchor out.
The first rule in anchoring will always remain to anchor safely, which means you will not become a hazard to yourself or a hazard to others.
Just because you want to be in an anchorage does not mean you can be there. If the anchorage is full because you showed up late, you go out and find another anchorage or you stay out at sea. You have no birth right to an anchorage, hope you can agree with that.
If you have ever heard of the admiralty you should know their manual of seamanship and you will also know that they prescribe an anchor chain length, in shackles, to be 1.5 the square root of the depth in meters.
The RYA states 4 x depth, which is half of what the admiralty and IACS prescribe.
Now, why do you think that is ?
It is all to accommodate commercial enterprise.
Only problem is that I used to work in the Coast Guard and have dealt with unsafe issues at sea for a very long time. Everything is fine until it goes wrong and then everybody suddenly understands. We know what is safe, but some will only act safe when it is too late and we all know the sea can kill. That is why we have certifications and that is why we should never shove them in a corner.
I understand you are an instructor. I saw some of your other videos and you do know how to handle a vessel. But the instructors are the only ones who can teach new sailors how to handle their boat. If you don't do it........who will ?
So am sorry, but I expect higher standards of an instructor. You are the person that should install safety in the minds of your students. You should not set them free just for commercial reasons. If someone cannot control his vessel, he or she does not belong on the water. May not like that statement, but lives are at stakes. If you don't believe me we will meet up one day and I will tell you a few stories of people who went out on the water and paid with their lives. And yes, I was one of the people who had to go out and recover them.
So please, don't come and lecture me what a seaman's life is all about, you are barking up the wrong tree.
You are lecturing a commercial life, that is something different.
If you are truly a safety minded instructor you will know that what I tell you right now is true. If you still don't know, send me your e-mail address, i will be back in Greece (Corfu / Preveza) by mid October (currently in Croatia with our boat) and I will be more than happy to meet up.
You are a good instructor, you know how to handle a boat, now make the last step to installing that safety minded behavior in whoever watches this channel.
Just remember: 'when safety is your enemy, accident is your friend'
Take care.
Why does anyone voluntarily sail anywhere in the Aegean? Why? Are they masochists?
It's that bad...with the proper training it's probably the best place in the world to practice your skills
@@epicnavigator Bloody evil place! Evil weather!
@@epicnavigator Aha, I see you are Greek? These island chains have seen navigators since the dawn of civilisation. If I understand correctly, the sea floor is littered with wrecks from as early as 2000 BCE ? I am genuinely fascinated by the history of navigation and trade in the Mediterranean basin, but especially the Aegean. One thing I was looking at recently was whether the various regional winds and storms are the same ones today as 3-4000 years ago? And were there any tricks early navigators had to survive them, or did they just trust to luck? The storms and shipwrecks are a central topic of all the Greek myths. Fascinating stuff.
Typically Greek - everyone shouting nonsense 😂
What a mess.
Why don’t they learn people with rental boats to enter with bow first?
It’s way easier for beginners.
Anchor and windlass is at the bow, so this is what you do to perform a "med mooring".
As they said, in Greece we do med Mooring, in other countries you see more "bow first" docking that is not necessarily easier though
Stop giving this good advices... Do you want to put us shipyard workers out of job? 😂😂😂😂
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as always- excellent video. thank you