Sure, it's not a brand, but you understand what is trying to be conveyed right? What would you suggest otherwise? "Budget chinese designed and manufactured internet distributed products"?
Nor To the 3rd they usually say ebay parts or eBay coilovers, when the part is cheap. but if I bought say a greddy turbo off eBay I say I bought it on eBay instead of eBay turbo you know.
Hate to bust the the bubble on all you who drop the cost of a car on coilovers, even those are made in China by whole or part, hell, that $1000 iPhone you went broke buying? It was made in China, small town outside of Shanghai, so saying something is crap because it's made in China doesn't always ring true anymore, just means the company that made it, cut manufacturing cost
Funny you mention iPhones, how many people will be happy to queue up for the latest iPhone and fork out $1000 for that, but then they call me an idiot for suggesting cheaping out on poorly made suspension for their car is a bad idea. Anyhoo, yes I can appreciate that MANY things are made in China, but they are often still engineered, tested and assembles properly... not just "chinese copies and built as cheap as possible" which is what these coilovers are.
Big difference between "built in china" and "built & engineered in china" parts engineered in china are mostly crap, because they try to cut down on prices too much and end up cheaping out on stuff they shouldn't. Plus they're pretty bad at engineering.
Sounds like a video made by a a guy who’s dropped thousands on coil overs before and couldn’t possibly fathom something cheaper being anywhere near as good. Was so negative about the whole thing before he even started.
I'm sorry if you don't agree but for my use they were genuinely terrible. I was only negative about their performance because they were shit, they are cheap crap. Just because that is a fact, doesn't make me negative, it makes the product junk. Don't hate me when the product was at fault.
@@Bbeavis Scotty Kilmer had the same issue with the ones he got to try out on his wife's Lexus ES300, she even noticed how poorly the car rode with the new ones, so he ended up putting the old ones back on. I had a similar issue with aftermarket, cheap motor mounts I got for my Corolla. It was like using hockey pucks as replacements.
@@Bbeavis Watch the video again... Good video but clearly biased from the get go. The video was just to validate your opinion formed even before you ordered those coilovers. I'm not saying the parts are great, or not... just that your assessment wasnt impartial
@@thekofianderson dude, it's like taking Eric Clapton to task for being "biased from the get-go" when asked to review a $100 plywood guitar. Of course he is gonna be biased. He has high standards and he's reviewing an obviously questionable product. This isn't a review for anybody. This is a channel all about motorsports and high-performance driving. It's for people looking to get good handling and perhaps tempted to skimp on their suspension. These coilovers are the $100 plywood guitar of the coilover world. Look decent. Sound like shit.
No he didn't... BEAVIS provided MULTIPLE good points, which, I think even suprised him... The fact a company couldn't even keep consistancy, just shows what utter shite they are.
HOW TO GET GOOD QUALITY "EBAY" PARTS!!!! So China does this thing called stealing intellectual property of people who want to manufacture in china. So how this works is I can buy a brand new 7" intercooler direct from VRSF (but this could be any other car part) for $700. They manufacture this part in China for probably around $125. The reason they charge $700 is they have to pay for the R&D it took to design that part. But china comes along and steals there design and makes that same exact part unbranded and sells them in china. Some of those unbranded parts end up for sale on sites like ebay, AliExpress, ect. So moral of the story, you can get very good quality parts from eBay at huge discounts, but your hurting the companies who R&Ded that product. So there are some quality parts on eBay, just gotta know where to look.
This is very true Dolphin, although at least in this case we can rest assured that china didn't come up with a copy of anything of quality... as these were really disappointing coilovers.
They also cost more because defective units are rejected, bringing up the total cost of manufacture. With the cheap stuff you never know what you're going to get, and they often change something (lower quality materials, etc) to make it cheaper.
This is so true people need to stop saying that you should only buy from a real name when the Chinese names are real also you assholes what there fake names no there real just not fox greddy HKS bbs or something but they are real names
@@Bbeavis sure there is a huge difference. It would be pretty bad if f there wasn't really. But does that actually matter? It is just an elitist mentality in car culture. Like they are with hifi, and in whiskey and with wines. Some people act like only top of the line stuff is worthy of concideration. If i wanna get drunk i buy cheap alcohol. I am not looking to annalize and wonder what flavours and aromas there are in my boxed wine. And some people just want their car to have a low stance and that is what they buy them for. Most people i know don't have a clue anyway how their car should drive. How often i notice bad shocks, half flat tires and bad alignments on peoples cars when im riding with them is astonishing. And they never even noticed and still have no idea what i am talking about when i point it out. They got used to it and it is part of their car I much rather see people buying this then slamming their car down with some cheap lowering springs and then just keep riding their bouncy castle with no shocks left whatsoever. At least this is safe and a better ride then a lot of peoples stock cars that i know. It is all relative and you need to see things in a bit of context.. Some never even notice a broken spring or even a flat tire.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 "Does it really matter?" For the people who just want to slam their car, no. For those of us who actually care about how our cars drive on the track, absolutely yes. Frankly, I'm amazed at how defensive people are getting over these cheap pieces of garbage. I don't get it. They perform exactly as their price suggests. Where's the controversy exactly?
Dude your just reaching to have a problem with them, this whole video your just looking for any excuse. I bought eBay coil overs and honest to god no problem. And I have them adjusted to what I needed and they work perfect for my mazda 3
how are they holding up, planning to get some for my Civic FD, I live in the philippines so I earn next to nothing lmao, ebay coilovers will cost me my 2 week paycheck but I need em, lemme know my dude
When you describe the ride feel of those coilovers as 'crashy', I suspect that has more to do with the mx5 being older with wearing suspension parts. The new springs are likely stiffer and it is revealing the weaknesses of the car's aging suspension. Older cars do rattle more. I experienced similar on my AW11 MR2 when I upgraded to high quality lowering springs and struts. Replacing many of the worn out bushings helped out a lot with that. It seems like those ebay coilovers werent that bad of a deal.
It's funny how people claim it's the car, or the bushes, or the driver... yet i swap out the shitty coilovers from some good ones and suddenly it rides beautifully.
20 percent of your paycheck ends in the recycle bin the moment you come home. Everybody hauling around expensive trash so they can throw it away as soon as they walk in the door. Most of our trash has seen more of the world then we ever will.
I bought my e36 with racelands and i know the feeling he's talking about. It's pretty bad. BC coilovers were one of the first things I bought for my car. They were worth it for sure. I'd much rather do bilstein shocks with h&r springs over any coilovers under $1k.
BEAVIS Motorsport if you had to remove them, why are you telling people in these comments that you’ll post a follow up video on them “after putting a few more miles on the car”? Just curious
He is right guys, these are absolutely not worth the time money or effort! I had them on my Corolla for not even one day. Save your money and invest in either lowered springs, with new shocks, or invest in a much higher quality brand, if you really love your car. These cause so much noise and rattle when you turn, regardless of how much you adjust them, put grease, etc. Come back and tell me I am right after you try them out. That is if they send the right ones.
My experiences with these coilovers on Lexus IS200: Cons: Two of the coilover bodies (the part with the threads) is too long which means either the front or the rear doesn't go as low without lowering the preload below 0. The top hat for the rear doesnt line up perfectly with the body so you have to file a millimeter out of the hole in the shock tower to fit it trough. Lacks the stock mounting brackets for ABS sensor wire, so you have to ziptie this on. The threads are coated steel. The lower body is also coated steel. It does rust after a while. Mine are now seized. The shocks leak fluid and it fills up the rubber boot. Pros: Probably the only coilovers for under 250 bucks which provide - Top hats - Separate preload and height adjustment It's not bad for the price, that said you do get what you pay for.
Hey AX53, thanks for taking the time to share your experience! Certainly sounds like your experience match my suspicions that these are pretty poor quality, despite looking good for the price. Thanks for watching!
Little did I know the Race Warehouse coils are in fact the same Maxpeedingrods brand that you reviewed. That was a bit misleading on the seller aspect but if they end up making me happy I can’t complain right? I should be doing my install in the next couple weeks as I am very busy. One thing I’ve been hearing a lot is that I should upgrade the top hats on these.
His advice is accurate though. On my older cars i used TA technix coils. Its like ebay coils but with a german brand behind it. And even those where the worst fucking crap ive ever laid my money on. First of i had to drill the hole on the coil for the lower control arm, because it was to small. They didnt hold the alignment at all. They rattled and bumped even though everything was tightened to spec. And since i live in sweden, they became proper rust "towers". One thing ive learned. You should not cheap out on coilovers.
had ebay coilover on my S13, loved them. 1/3 of a price of real coils. Didn't notice difference in the ride quality from brand name coils. And I didn't buy my S13 for the ride quality in the first place
@@brendanmay8527 Exactly.. lol.. But even in the car community you have the "boogie" guys 😂 We dont kick it with these guys, we just smoke them and their $2k coilovers on the freeway 🤣
In terms of a quality coilover that actually works, yes they are. It's all relative. You can easliy pay over $5000 or more for coilovers.... so $1200 or less for BC's is cheap.
Sometimes you're also limited by what's even being made for your vehicle. BC Racing is one of the few companies that makes em for a PT Cruiser, so they've been on my "list" for possible options.
TrueNomadSkies i feel you there. most of the cars ive owned have a very limited aftermarket parts selection, so actually finding stuff that bolts right up is like a miracle lol
But the valving and the way they handle bump and rebound is far beyond that of cheaper coilovers. Bilstein pss9 and Öhlins Road and track are fine examples of this
If "expensive" high quality coilover also ride harsh for you, you got the wrong spring rates for the driving your doing and/or have the damping set up wrong
Not if you use proper springs for your car and the driving you do. If you just use whatever comes standard with the kit you will have a shitty ride indeed. Things do not have to be that way though.
@@Fonzizzz bilstein pss9s are way to bumpy. Had them on my rs6 and the back got launched into the air everytime i took a speed bump faster then 3 miles an hour. And the car was barely lower then stock. Never got them to work properly. Went back to koni sports and like them a lot more. Then again, maybe i just got a bad set or something. Who knows.
I had these in my car for 2 years. Lower my car 4 inches and rode great way better then stock. No rattles or anything at all car also only had 100,000 miles. I also only paid 300 for mine
And rightly so if it doesn't make sense to you. But I also don't want to encourage people to make their car worse by installing shit, even keeping oem parts is better than these china-spec coilovers. For me, I paid $5,000 for my car, but it probably has $15k or more worth of parts installed on it. I'm quite content with that because I do what I enjoy.
@@Bbeavis I'm in college... so I don't have that sort of money lying around... that said, I think sometimes cheapish coilovers are a little better than 30 year old stock springs. Plus I want the car a little lower/ more tossable.
@@michaeljoseph4314 "When they make the whip you like, you're chips ain't right. By the time you can afford it, the car ain't important" ~ Nas Just go with Eibach lowering springs for a better stance and performance on a budget. They are great springs, and cost about $300 on average (varies on make-model) They come in 2-3 tiers starting at around 1.2" drop. You will be quite surprised at how much better the car will handle as well for just a few hundo. great company, been around for a very long time, and most people's go to. Lifetime warranty and all springs specific designed and tested for each model.
@@Bbeavis hey my eclipse has 3 bad struts, I'm looking online and these ebay coilovers are a cheaper option than doing all 4 struts. would you suggest it? I'm not really worried about lowering and stancing it, I just want to get it to pass inspection. but I wouldn't mind if it was a little lower, 3g eclipse sits a little high.
You get what you pay for, only fuckbois argue that their cars value means they cheap out on decent parts. That's why they don't really hit the track and can't afford maintenance on their cars but buy chinese rims and quick release bumper kits with speed holes on stock cars lol
surprisingly i actually like my ebay coil overs ( cx-racing ). however i have not had high end coil overs. i simply was switching from my stock ones to these. They are 32 way adjustable, you can fully adjust preload etc. I actually love the feel of them. i have them with just a bit of preload and they arent favorite stiff or hard i just based it off going all the way hard and then 16 clicks out to be basically in the middle of soft and hard setting and then gradually worked a couple clicks towards hard. But i noticed right off the bat the steering actually seemed easier as if it required less effort to turn in at higher speeds. i also noticed much less body roll as the car felt like it was more flat instead of wanting to tilt in turns. and it actually handles bumps well. The car entirely is more predictable and steady in the canyons which is my primary style of driving. i've had them on the car for 3 years and they don't make any bad sounds, nothing has broken or come out of alignment. and i honestly would buy them again for a different car.
People give me crap for this haha but i have them in my mkiv toyota supra. but i honestly have no issues with them so i have no regrets with using a affordable set of coil overs for that car. I mean don't get me wrong if i could id buy a nice high end set of coil overs for it. The thing is though.. not all of us who own supras are exactly financially stable or wealthy. Its funny because people automatically assume that if you have a supra you must spend top dollar on them or nothing at all. but at the end of the day... its still a toyota.
At 17:50: it doesn't feel soft!! Lmao they're lower and tighter of course!!! Looks like shitty suspension on nice cheap coilovers, and a MaXlow = Max Slow car
@@Bbeavis I was contemplating a set on my RT challenger, but all these mixed reviews are scaring me, I hear a few great review then a few bad, I'm lost sadly!!
@@wobblinwobbler1482 Perhaps it depends on peoples past experiences. So those who are new to coilover and suspension options may think these are good purely because they make a car feel firm and that is perceived as correct. Or it may be a result of different cars reacting differently, for example perhaps the manufacturer has a spring/damper valving setup that works better for a larger car than it does for a smaller car.
@@Bbeavis well I'll be looking for a set with damper control about 1+ inch drop and a couple of camber bushings/ balljoints and I don't have $1000's to pay so I'll just keep reviewing and maybe I'll find something other than MAX PEE PEE!!!
Did you tension the spring? I noticed u can take them apart with out a spring Compressor cus they can be adjusted. Maybe that noise is the spring weakly sitting on the upper and lower springs mounts? Idk. New shocks usually feel really firm new. I got new stock ones and had like no body roll for couple weeks. Then they loosed up to a stock feel.
Hi Salvatore, thanks for watching! I do believe the springs were seated correctly within their mounts - I find the 'noise' is just a result of the rough ride these offer on my little car.
Just got these for my Civic, and installed them a week ago. They're definitely on a softer side compared to coilover sleeves (Ground Control) I've had in the past. But they're still stiff... Like, they absorb bumps very well without having a race-car-like ride. The ride quality isn't "jarring", its not so stiff where make it would make you cringe, It's very comfortable an smooth. There was a moment where another Civic was next to me on the highway (most likely on sleeved coilovers on possibly blown shocks) an was bouncing like crazy... looked like he was saddling a horse, while mine was a lot lower in height, an was completely still... floating on the road cruising 70mph, absorbing the road perfectly. These don't bounce at all, an I made sure they were preloaded before I installed. Some may not want a soft ride on a drift car / track car, but for a daily street car it's perfect imo. I love these.
Longevity, that is the real question...new & shiney out of the box, but how will they be in 6 mo, 1yr, 2yrs, etc...other differences is how they handle bump & rebound cycling...did you corner weight the n/a after a bit?
I got these a year ago just to replace the oems that previous owner never replaced and they're already rusting which started a few months after being installed and I live in Arkansas
I bought them and can't get rid of the clunks, the handling is good but I'm too embarassed to take anyone out in it sounds like a drum kit not tied down in a trailer behind me.
Make sure the o rings are in place mine did that too in the beginning I greased the pillow ball and notice my o rings we're off so make sure they're on! And also check your control arms
I have those same brand coilovers for my VW GTI mk3 and they've been working fine for me for 2 years so far. They took almost a month to settle in and smooth out. But I haven't had any rattles or loss in dampening. They were really clunky for about a month tho. In my opinion, for a daily driver they are fine, but I would never expect them to hold up on the track. The coil itself holds up just fine but its hard to go wrong with a coil unless it snaps or changes geometry. The only thing that is lacking about them is the dampener. On mine the dampener and lower mount are one piece but on you're the dampener is a separate piece which I think is a good thing because you could just buy better dampeners that have the same threading and upgrade your coilovers. Also I had the same paperwork as you and where it says that the dampener is adjustable at the top its not true. Mine said the same thing but spinning that rod does nothing to the dampening.
I'd like to know how they settle in after a weekend or 500kms+ of driving around on some "C roads", if they survive it without blowing a seal or busting a weld. Put them to some hard work. I'd expect both the springs and the dampening to soften up markedly; even top end mfgrs over-rate the starting figures so that prolonged life is nearer the quoted figure. Top end mfgrs however will aim to put the production figure closer to the quoted figure so that the high paying end user is happy from the get-go, I wouldn't expect the lower end mfgr to have such a customer oriented approach; they're more likely to over-engineer for longevity, or simply not care at all.
@@Bbeavis I bought a set, NB, and they quite good for the money. Mine did settle a little, about 3/8", but that was after chasing every rut, pothole, corrugation, and rough country road I could find... Even mud and gravel... and running them with fully soft dampening. And they performed very well on all surfaces.
I got these installed professionally. No complaints here, no clunking at all, great purchase for them, I feel them to be actually decent an drive well.
They only make that clunking noise if the springs are tightened too much. I've had these on my 4g eclipse since I've bought it and have no problems. U should research how to adjust them before making a review
Hi Andrew, I'm sorry but I am not sure I agree. I have every confidence that they were correctly setup, and that spring preload does not induce a bad ride. Perhaps your eclipse is better suited to these coilovers than a smaller MX-5 Miata.
I had them.on my.5th gen.prelude I just sold, and my new car is a 1992 prelude. Guess what's going on them??!! MAXPEEDINGRODS! for 200 bucks, you cant go.wrong. One thing I noticed is the( pivotball?) on the front ones makes a lot of noise... so this time 8m going to.pavk them with some kind of grease that isn't harmful to the rubber.
Iv ran those coil overs on my s13 for about 1.5 years and I haven't had any of these problem that thump is you not having the right preload setting and or your coil over not being tight at the top.
I suspect the manufacturer never tested these coilovers on a car as light as the miata. Please note that spring preload does not alter ride quality, the spring rate is constant. And i can assure you they were 'tight at the top'. The poor ride is a result of bad design and lack of testing of the dampening rate in relation to the spring rate and vehicle geometry.
I suspect that too. They did not properly test them on many models of vehicles. Some have success with these, and some people don't. I personally tried every thing to make them stop making noise, (tightened the top fastener, all the nuts at the top mount, camber bolts, preload all that, pretty much everything, I have installed quality coil overs before and never had issues as much as I had with these! Took them off after a day of wasting time and swearing. Ive also heard that some people have received the wrong sets (rear set not aligning etc) so just do your research beforehand.
not trying to attack you personally, i think enough people have already done that, but i have to say that you come across as a very pretentious and snobby person when it comes to car parts. im sure this one 20 minute video doesnt encapsulate your whole personality but thats the impression i get from it. im sure there are better coilovers out there for thousands of dollars but no one who can afford those is watching this video. the people who are only want to know if these coilovers are worth the money (which this video didnt really answer) not if they stack up to parts that are on hundred thousand dollar professional drift cars. i think thats why this comment section is full of so many negative people, because youve attracted the target market of this product and basically did nothing but insult their (our) intelligence and the quality of the products they (we) use. i think the format of your video was really well done, you were somewhat thorough without rambling and included some useful information. i wish you would have gone into more detail about how or why the coils were making that "crashing" sound but otherwise you did a great job, just try to keep in mind who your audience is when you make another video like this and consider the possibility that just because something is cheap doesnt mean its worthless.
Thank you for taking the time to comment James, i really appreciate it. I do think the video is still valid and for the most part is still accurate. I do also believe that a large portion of the unhappy commenters are in denial, or just don't agree with my opinion. Just because I don't like something, and someone else does, doesn't mean one of us is right or wrong. In my opinion, these coilovers are not worth the trouble. People come to this video in the hope that their dreams of the cheap solution to coilovers is validated- fair enough. But at the end of the day, I'm not going to recommend them, no matter how many people don't agree with me or say I'm a snob. It should be mentioned, I'm driving a $2000 MX-5, so certainly far from a snobby car - this ain't no high end, or big power or big dollar car.
I have found this to be completely opposite, James. BEAVIS Motorsport, I found, provided a great review on these as I saw a set on eBay for sale going real cheap at an auction. Having never heard of them before and seeing the images, they looked like a quality unit. Glad I found this video - BEAVIS noted MANY good points about these coilovers but looks can be decieving. I guess its a case of the placebo effect.... You think they are good but most people fitting these do not care for ride comfort or handling capabilities. Everyone that has commented on this video has mentioned they ride fine on the street, sure but what about on a race track with long sweeping bends for example. You want to make sure your suspension keeps them tyres in contact with the ground, especially when doing 100mph+
I’ve been running these cheap coil over kit for 6 years now but you need the upgraded shock option for dampening 32 wat adjustments for an additional 150.00 all around makes all the difference in ride quality! When I installed them ppl said there crap but my opinion is for street use not track use there perfect they haven’t leaked or gone bad in 40 k 6 years on my 2001 Bmw 330i sedan been perfect !!
He is making an honest and transparent review on a cheap set of coil overs. I do not see anything wrong with that and most of the youtubers praising this shithole product have been sponsored as nothing negative is stated or just a minor con is told. Im glad BEAVIS has made a video on these coilovers as I am now more knowledgable that 'cheap coil overs are not the way to go if you are after a quality product', therefore, buying a genuine cheap set for $1200 will allow for decent quality and will last for many years to come.
Dang, should have got the $500 ones (I checked out maxspeeding rods' ebay shop, they have them). They don't stock them for my Echo for some reason, maybe I need a cooler car? There *is* a way to adjust damping though, but it's not easy. You can disassemble them completely and change the oil, drill the holes out, or mess with the shims. You won't be able to re-charge the gas yourself though
I don't have coilovers but I did replace the suspension on my jeep. I have struts on the front shocks on the back. I used Monroe brand because my local parts store sells them and their made in the US and not China lol. Anyway my ride is now noisy. It pisses me off so bad lol. It doesn't so much feel bad I guess just not as good as the stock that was on it but sounds like yours. Only reason I replaced mine is because the front was smashed into a year ago by and old man and the shop screwed me over big time. Anyway I didn't notice until a year later but what I imagine happened is the strut tower got bent slightly where it holds the spring and over time the powder coat peeled off in that spot and then rusted. After it rusted it got weak and bent downward pretty bad and started make a loud noise. Unfortunately my spring compressor won't compress my springs on the jeep so I had to get quick struts
Sorry to hear of your troubles my2centz, I hope you find a solution someday. It's a shame you've opted for a brand like Monroe and still ended up with a disappointing ride.
mate i have had the maxpeeding coilover kit in my vt commodore for 2 over 2 years now. yes they are stiff but handling along with strutt braces and aftermarket sway bars the old vt handles like a dream.. and thats hard for a vt-vz... i put them in because they were cheaper than a new set of struts and rear shocks and havent looked back. the only knocking noise i got was from a lower ball joint. maybe you could have installed them wrong?
I installed them correctly, they just aren't suited to the car. Perhaps the manufacturer has only one valving setup which is more suited to a 1600kg car rather than our little 950kg machine.
It would be appropriate to check the coil overs after the ride and see if you can spot the reason for the clunk. Since there shouldn't be a noise at all, even a poor quality shock system does not make noises, unless the rubber bushings are utter garbage. I did have some real cheap Mexican built shocks where you could hear the damper valves, THAT was annoying and no good. Perhaps the rear springs are too stiff, are you sure the rating and the preload are correct? Spring adjustments only do that much, the actual spring is where it's at. Also, avoid bottoming out the damper rod by adjusting the spring too low.
Hey Obsession, These are genuinely just crappy quality and the unnerving noises are a direct result of poor quality and lack of real testing by the manufacturer. Preload has no effect on spring rate or ride quality. Thanks for watching!
Really love your way of presentation...many youtubers only make an install video of coilovers but never managed to describe clearly what difference does they make. Looking forward if you can do different coilover reviews with a similar format!
Thanks chungman. I didn't want to cover the 'install' too much, as it's been done to death and it's really not that hard, people dont need to watch that... instead I wanted to focus on really giving these coilovers a chance and trying to show what they are really like.
I've been looking at a set of tein street basis Z and they're $550 US with no top hat, you have to use the stock top hat, the next step up the flex model is pushing $800 USD. Like the other comment, just because it's made in China doesn't mean it's cheaply made because most of everything you get is from China weather it's shipped to your local store and you buy it there or you buy it directly from China and it's shipped to you it was still loaded in a shipping container and sent to your country. There is a difference between cheap and inexpensive
I'm not saying "made in china" mean's it's crap. I'm saying that made, designed and "QC'd" in china means it's crap. There's a difference between a good brand with real engineering and RnD that made in china to a crappy chinese knock off.
F***ing useless piece of junks...max speed rods i think are the worst budget coils....not the cheapest...but the worst...the ride is extremely stiff and makes the car undriveable.i had them on am e46 coupe and the back of the car was bouncing on the road,the back wheels were lifting of the ground.i also had ta technix witch were a lot better ...
Nah man, installed them on my VT Commy last week and they are a blast, no clunks, a tad bouncy in the rear but that is my fault for not enough spring preload, it handles 20x better than the stock suspension (my old rear shocks were blown), an absolute blast to throw around, not too bad comfort wise either, but I did get the adjustable damper ones.
I bought a set of these for a daily driven little 1991 corolla with the adjustable dampening, and after about 2000 miles they’ve settled nicely, they’re not “comfortable” but for $300, they’re cheaper and handle better than replacing all four springs and struts. And don’t require reconstruction like the stock setup, since they come preassembled. Overall the ride quality is actually not bad, over the sudden changes they are harsh a bit but not unbearable.
I wouldn’t say “happy” but content with the cost in comparison to all OE replacement shocks/springs, and top hats, considering they were all completely destroyed when the car was originally purchased.
Tuna Garage i hrard ppl actually buy these because the quality of the strut is good but everything else is bad or something like that and ppl just rebuild them with better parts. so in the end still comes out cheaper than actual good brand.
I got some of these because they where cheaper than the oem shocks springs. I replaced everything arms ball joints track rod ends the lot. I lowered by only 1 inch cause its for a honda accord workhorse not a racer. 200k miles on the clock. I got a non camber non damper adjustable set. It says it has a pillow joint but its a rubber bushing. Not sure how or why but lemme tell u this. Its absolutely beautiful to drive now. No noises whatever and its just right stiffness. Maybe twice the oem but it takes the bumps beautiful no clunks nothing. I lowered by 30mm only as I don't care about cosmetics. I guess time will tell
Ride quality is good. Stiffer through the bends not to bad over the bumps. I changed all of the arms and ball joints too. Installing these with worn arms / ball joints will amplify any noises coming from those worn parts. That said be sure to tighten the top strut nuts as they came loose after 1 week !... the company also sent the wrong rear shocks. They sent shocks for the saloon model not the estate despite me giving the the reg and specifying estate. The company did give me a partial refund and il flog them on, but I have to say the company hasn't a clue what its doing saying things like "can u modify them on" when the suspension is completely different on the rear lol
mike hunt thanks for your input. I know , it's seems like your talking to a robot when you need customer service. I was asking them questions on eBay and they seemed kinda retarded, but they gave me a good price for the set.
Maybe a stupid question, but did you checked if the clunky noise came from the pillowballs in the top mount? As in disassebled view they seems totally dry, not a bit of grease on them - problem which has been noticed from a lot of maxpeeding users. As for damiping instead? What's your feedback - not considering noisy notes. Thanks.
Never a stupid question. Being double a-arm, pillow balls on an MX-5 miata are not really required. There isn't the levels of movement at the top mount like there is with say a mcpherson strut. I suspect the damping was the cause of the worst of the ride 'quality'.
You can also stiffen or soften the ride by adjusting the damping, just need take off the cap on the top and turn it to the left. Very easy to do and that will definitely help the ride immensely... To adjust the damping to be softer, turn the adjusting knob counter clock-wise. To make the damping stiffer, turn the adjusting knob clock-wise.
The issue i had where one of mine was clunking is because i didn't tighten the top nut(On the strut) when it was on the ground and a small drive was all it took for the clunking to get much louder. Tighten while on the ground
It's funny how you keep mentioning how the packaging was rough and quick but effective. I would take that as a compliment if I was the Chinese manufacturer. They ride that razor edge so perfectly of cutting corners and being as janky and rough as possible, while still giving an expected level of quality and utility when all is said and done. It is innovative and skillful and it's part of the reason they dominate the world with merchandise. Why take the extra costly man hours and expensive resources of having perfectly cut and custom shaped nice foam inserts to protect during shipping, when they have a bunch of random foam strips left over that they could just cut up. They are making the best out of what is around them and thinking on the fly effectively. As for the maXpeedingrods (and I love that name it's the only thing I've ever considered getting tattooed on my body because I just think it's that good) I have had a set on my Matrix now for a few years and they finally wore out but they were great for the years they worked and I don't blame them for wearing out I drove them through harsh vermont winters with salted roads and terrible construction bumps and bridge joints. But 200 dollars to last your suspension for 2 or 3 years is actually an acceptable price if you just considered them wearable parts. The rears still work the fronts have just locked up from corrosion and dirt and salt and debris. I just ordered a replacement set and plan on just unfortunately putting my stock suspension in for the winter this winter. Even though it looks ridiculous with 5 inch fender height gaps with the stock stuff. It's just not worth ruining the lowering susp.
Just get Bilstein B6/B8 shocks and Eibach Pro-Kit/Sportline springs. Both products are from experts in their fields, are homologated for road use, you can buy them together as a package and the shocks are rebuildable.
Hi, I've got mine installed and notice that the rubber "washer" on my front right slipped off. Does it make any difference with or without the washers? It made a constant clunking noise as I drove down my driveway. I brought it to the mechanic and while on my way to the shop, the noise was gone, the mechanic told me that the rubber that slipped off is not the reason why it made that noise. He asked me to take a photo of it and send it to the ebay seller.
I would expect the difference should be minimal. But i wonder if the clunking noises you hear are just the way these coilovers are. I experienced a similar type of noise and put it down to the inferior design.
@@Bbeavis I went to another mechanic for second opinion and I've been told that the rear suspension doesn't have a reaction, it doesn't spring down making it bumpy, the rear wheels almost have the same distance (vertically) on the ground and when it's jacked up. Told me that the front springs are rotating instead of the bushing which is the reason for the noise. I've been ripped off. 🤔
@@jmwreck Oh no sorry to hear. I have so many commenters in this video who say how these coilovers are great and call me all sorts of names because i DIDN'T recommend them, but after my own experiences, and when hearing stories like yours, I feel like I am justified with my opinion.
Seemed like they weren't as abrupt as the speed bumps in my city or what other people may be used to. We have speed bumps and humps here, the humps are big and gradual usually on roads and the bumps are tall and abrupt usually found in parking lots.
lmao i was thinking that i have to crawl over speed bumps and do the honda shuffle but then again i have racelands ultimos and the cars slammed //don’t recommend lol
Thank you for your honest review. It seems you are very passionate about cars so it's only natural you would be a perfectionist about it. I'm the same way with art, so I can relate with art supplies. That said, as some say, you get what you paid for, so I'm about to make a purchase of some new Shocks and Struts and they are not close to 2500 to 5000, but they are about 1000. However, me and my dad were originally going to buy a kit from Amazon and Ebay for like 500 or less around 400. And I have been heavily researching some quality Shocks and Struts, I'm not a street racer or any sort, I just need some quality suspensions that will last longer than the cheap ones we were originally gonna buy that were on Amazon and Ebay. I'm assuming the 1000 to 1500 suspensions are not HIGH tier race quality but do you think they would be just good for daily driving?
It can depend on your specific car and where you are located, but certainly for a street only vehicle you can find many options for under $1500, just try find a product that matches your desired ride/comfort.
18:55 That legacy passed you thinking 'Just the casual morning trip to the office' And you 'Full race mode bitch...go miata go! .. who tf is that mad man??' _puts head down in defeat_ lol
Hey Indecisyve, I guess that's a valid point - I did expect they'd be pretty average for the price. But half the comments I see here criticize me for saying they are disappointing, and suggest I am a pompous fancy-pants and people seem to say that they are perfectly fine. So it's impossible to please everyone! haha. But hey, I bought them to find out for myself and now I know. Thanks for watching!
Just did a miata front end, new kyb shocks, new upper and lower control arms and ball joints and the car feels so much better. Youd get more for your money bringing back to stock with new ball joints and bushings than knockoff coilovers. New ball joints will make way more of a difference than new springs
A great experiment and a good video. A tip: when setting/checking the ride height, roll the car backwards & forwards to unload the suspension and sidewalls; as they will load up laterally when lowered from the stands/jacks.
I briefly mentioned in the video how i had to work the car a few times to get it where I wanted, however I didn't show or mention that its important to give the suspension some bounces and movement... so thanks for the tip, this is a good addition!
Sorry STAYUP, but I think you are mistaken on how i setup bump travel correctly. I did not setup anything to bottom out. I set it up to have the most possible bump travel while maintaining the desired ride height.
I'd rather have packaging like that than pay through my nose for perfectly formed foam that I'm gonna be throwing away. 80% of R&D goes into packaging design. Hence the high prices. Majority it's a con. Like sprinkling glitter on shit and selling it for more. For what they are, I'd give those coilovers 7.5/10.
I don't think I had any concern with the packaging, just that it was kind of amusing. Personally I felt these coilovers were a pretty poor performer for my car.
Great video my man! Too many people and companies out there spreading bad information about setting up coilovers. I'm about to finally get mine working hopefully tonight and your video is totally motivating me haha! 🤙🏽 Too many months and extra money spent on this project hah. I started with 6kg in front and 5kg progressive v-barrel (IRS mind you) rear 😂 corner weights somewhere in the 800lbs range so around 360-400kg lol. Let's just say I permanently compressed 2 pairs of springs already in front (the 6kg and 8kg),10kg is holding and now to put in the Swift adapters and 14kg! Thanks for pumping me up! 💪🏽👈🏽
@@brassmonkeegaming8583 nope Still not leaking Now they are bad for my usage With +200hp turbo miata They are unprecise and bouncy Maybe next one are BC Racing
Hey, nice review but I'd like to respectfully disagree on all terms. I bought a 1990 Miata for 2 grand with 2 blown shocks, on lowering springs, driver rear was scraping on the CV axle with 2 people in the car. So I bought the CHEAPEST ebay coilovers with adjustable damper for $199. They fit 100% with no issues, the only issues was taking out the old struts. The car is lowered to the halfway point, and the coilover damper is set to the softest point. The car rides "okay". No noises or squeaks, the car doesn't bottom out, suspension feels tight. I took it to an autocross and set the damper to max stiff, and to my surprise: it did something! The car had less body roll on my full stuff runs than my full soft, but way more oversteer. In the end, I spent $200 on coilovers for a rusty $2,000 miata. No, I'm not going to go get coilovers that cost half the price of the car, that's ridiculous. If it was a nicer, 5 grand car, I'd definitely consider getting something nicer. But for $200, they allow me to lower and raise the car, ride fairly nice, though I dont have a basis of comparison, and have adjustable dampening. All for under $200. They definitely have their place in the world, and they work.
I bought some 500$ coil overs, and had to return them because the lower part of the strut was against the axle boot. Didn't even attempt to drive it, put them right back in the box. Intend to buy some Tein struts and keep the original springs. That way there's no fitment issues.
so just what was the conclusion ,,,, did i miss that part . or was it just that 400 quid parts are 400 quid good and 1800 quid parts are 1800 quid good.
remember .. 90 percent of all the high branded things you buy actually get manufactured in the same place as the ebay china parts and then marked up massively to sell in Europe and USA .. the china based company's come to deals with the manufacturing too make them cheaper if they can use the parts in non make parts too .. this is super common most of the china car parts are actually good and not hurting the company's who do the research and development as they get that back from the 1% in the first burst of sales , the rest is just profit .. its only since trading via china has opened up more that we see the vast difference in what we got and what they have , also saving money on the packing is fine i would rather a box and some paper filler than a 200 dollar case they come in that i will never use past the first 10 mins of opening it .. also your driving an older car that was not designed to be on the type of coilovers you bought so will feel unusual . nothing will ever feel like OEM they would be worn in and loose at the time you got the car so softer and more forgiving . you can emulate that by getting some coilovers that have adjustable damping and pre charge rates as well as running the spring longer to allow it to bed(break in) .
They are pretty easy to find with a quick google search, try this: www.aliexpress.com/item/4000039102963.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.630c4c56eQARvs&algo_pvid=55c6de35-6408-4f2c-9eaa-63b0149f3420&algo_expid=55c6de35-6408-4f2c-9eaa-63b0149f3420-0&btsid=c0ff84a8-8a4a-466f-bf3d-e9634763e0d2&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_9,searchweb201603_53
Hmm, i think if these shocks were taken to a proper suspension engineer for setup they'd just throw them in the trash and say it's not worth the bother to even try :D
I have these on my 2011 GT. They're the adjustable dampening ones and they work quite well. Valving and spring rate seem spot on to give a firm ride but not overly harsh. I do have an issue with one of my pillow balls binding then popping though. Minor inconvenience for the $230 USD I paid for them 🤣
I just bought some of these maxspeedingrods and they seem good. the only issue I have had I had to drill out the stock holes on the front struts because they were slightly off. So far easy to adjust. Only other issue have to mark with a sharpie to count how many rotations of the sleeve. Mentioned firmness if you loosen the center bolt it makes softer.
China builds things to the spec's of the client. If the client wants higher quality, that's what they get. Even name brand products are built in China. They build them to spec. China has come a long way in the quality of their production. They want repeat customers and probably trying to shake their bad reputation. China can make some very high quality things, you just have to pay for it. Keeping in mind that old saying, "if it's too good to be true, it probably is". I've been watching many videos on the breakdown if tools/testing Chinese tools against the high end counterpart tools. Very interesting. The cheeper Chinese tools holdup very well compared to the cost.
You are quite right in many respects Frank, but to clarify, this was a test of a "chinese designed, engineered and built' product. That being, something that doesn't necessarily see the levels of quality of a 'name brand' coilover, even one made in china which is considered superior quality. In this case, the 'chinese' product was significantly inferior to anything i've used in the past.
@@Bbeavis Got cha. It's probably going to be a long time before they can build something of high quality and reliability and retain the low costs. I have a set of S.S. headers I bought awhile ago. I thought, how bad can they be? $99 for thick flanged shorty headers. They looked pretty good when I pulled them out of the box. Flanges were like 7/16" thick, welds were nice. Overall they looked good. By the time I got around to really checking them out. I soon realized they were completely useless. The ports were so big they breached the outside of the gasket...the outside!! Flanges so thick you couldn't put bolts through the holes, tubes bent so sharply near the flange they bolts couldn't be put in. The testing and R&D work is expensive. I'm sure no one ever fitted these to a cylinder head. They make them look the same. I guess my point is. They still have my money. There's nothing I can do about it. If word gets out and no one buys them. They just build something else until they can no longer sell them, then on to the next thing. I think they're trying to keep repeat customers now. Trying to escape the reputation.
I got a set of these for my '96 outback because what was on it when purchased were absolutely shot. They're a little stiff and they won't stay on the car long, but I needed something while I researched which forester setup would give me the most lift. For $300, they got the car back on the road and looking good in the interim.
You lost me at the beginning 3:55 when you started and kept going with the name. It’s called advertising ok you don’t like it NEXT. Rest of the video don’t know still watching.
Hey Nozzy thanks for watching! In my opinion, suspension is important, BC's are about as low as I would like to go. Anything less is very likely just not good enough for me...
BEAVIS Motorsport Thank you for your time by replying. I agree on that suspension is VERY important. But in my opinion bc's are decent. Their not top of the line but it's far from the worst. I've had good experiences with bc, however i bet it's more about the type of vehicle that it's made for, as your springs are tiiiiiny with not much travel rate compared to what I've been around with
Fair enough Nozzy, what else out there is a reasonable product for say around $1000 though? There's probably more options in the USA, but here in Australia we have too small of a market.
That clunky sound happened on my NA '96 on Koni shocks with FCM 46 mm bump stops - but they functioned as intended. I just didn't ever understand what was causing the noise.
Thad Beard don’t hold your breath. In another comment of the same age as this one he told someone they were “so bad he had to remove them!”, so who knows.
Only real issues I've had with them are popping sounds and the fact that the right rear blew out the mount 2 times within 4 months of replacing it the first time.
I wonder what the diameter of the internals are, and if they can be revalved using more quality parts. For example BC BRs for some cars are not valved correctly and apparently give a crashy, bad quality ride. BC probably just used off the shelf stuff and didn't tune the dampers for the specific springs and the car's weight(they probably did tune them for some cars, and are a good choice for those). However, the BC piston diameter is exactly the same as some Bilstein pistons so they can be rebuilt using Bilstein internals. It takes engineering(you have to choose your own shims), definitely not for everyone, but if done right and tested at a shock dyno, it can be better than öhlins. The BC housing and the top hats are apparently good quality, so it's a good base to build your own shocks. Going by this review, these maXX PEEEEEEEEEEdingrods have a decent outside build quality too, so I wonder if some other manufacturer's pistons match. Maybe you could cut them up(errr, I mean disassemble) for science :D?
A good point Andras. I'm not sure who would have the expertise and time to invest in such an investigation, certainly I don't personally have experience with shock internals... would be curious to see though.
Lol why does everybody call car parts from ebay, ebay parts as if ebay is a brand?
Sure, it's not a brand, but you understand what is trying to be conveyed right? What would you suggest otherwise?
"Budget chinese designed and manufactured internet distributed products"?
BEAVIS Motorsport lol yeah bro I understand I was just speaking in general . Great video btw 🤙🏾
Thanks Nor! :)
Nor To the 3rd they usually say ebay parts or eBay coilovers, when the part is cheap. but if I bought say a greddy turbo off eBay I say I bought it on eBay instead of eBay turbo you know.
dsmrace gets it!
Hate to bust the the bubble on all you who drop the cost of a car on coilovers, even those are made in China by whole or part, hell, that $1000 iPhone you went broke buying? It was made in China, small town outside of Shanghai, so saying something is crap because it's made in China doesn't always ring true anymore, just means the company that made it, cut manufacturing cost
Funny you mention iPhones, how many people will be happy to queue up for the latest iPhone and fork out $1000 for that, but then they call me an idiot for suggesting cheaping out on poorly made suspension for their car is a bad idea.
Anyhoo, yes I can appreciate that MANY things are made in China, but they are often still engineered, tested and assembles properly... not just "chinese copies and built as cheap as possible" which is what these coilovers are.
Big difference between "built in china" and "built & engineered in china" parts engineered in china are mostly crap, because they try to cut down on prices too much and end up cheaping out on stuff they shouldn't. Plus they're pretty bad at engineering.
Quentin Adams yes all that and more he’ll im starting to think I was made in China lmao.
@@imnota they may be bad at engineering, but they sure can reverse engineer like a pro 😂😂😂
Quentin Adams iphones are made in Shenzhen, which is HUGE, not a small town outside of Shanghai, clueless betty
Sounds like a video made by a a guy who’s dropped thousands on coil overs before and couldn’t possibly fathom something cheaper being anywhere near as good. Was so negative about the whole thing before he even started.
I'm sorry if you don't agree but for my use they were genuinely terrible. I was only negative about their performance because they were shit, they are cheap crap. Just because that is a fact, doesn't make me negative, it makes the product junk. Don't hate me when the product was at fault.
@@Bbeavis Scotty Kilmer had the same issue with the ones he got to try out on his wife's Lexus ES300, she even noticed how poorly the car rode with the new ones, so he ended up putting the old ones back on. I had a similar issue with aftermarket, cheap motor mounts I got for my Corolla. It was like using hockey pucks as replacements.
@@pedrofernandez3893 Thanks for sharing Pedro. :-)
@@Bbeavis Watch the video again... Good video but clearly biased from the get go. The video was just to validate your opinion formed even before you ordered those coilovers. I'm not saying the parts are great, or not... just that your assessment wasnt impartial
@@thekofianderson dude, it's like taking Eric Clapton to task for being "biased from the get-go" when asked to review a $100 plywood guitar. Of course he is gonna be biased. He has high standards and he's reviewing an obviously questionable product.
This isn't a review for anybody. This is a channel all about motorsports and high-performance driving. It's for people looking to get good handling and perhaps tempted to skimp on their suspension. These coilovers are the $100 plywood guitar of the coilover world. Look decent. Sound like shit.
He tried so hard to hate on China and specially the “maxspeed” thing. Unnecessary.
It is necessary when the coilovers are utter shite.
No he didn't... BEAVIS provided MULTIPLE good points, which, I think even suprised him... The fact a company couldn't even keep consistancy, just shows what utter shite they are.
@@Bbeavis they really are junk but if your in the hood there gold
HOW TO GET GOOD QUALITY "EBAY" PARTS!!!! So China does this thing called stealing intellectual property of people who want to manufacture in china. So how this works is I can buy a brand new 7" intercooler direct from VRSF (but this could be any other car part) for $700. They manufacture this part in China for probably around $125. The reason they charge $700 is they have to pay for the R&D it took to design that part. But china comes along and steals there design and makes that same exact part unbranded and sells them in china. Some of those unbranded parts end up for sale on sites like ebay, AliExpress, ect. So moral of the story, you can get very good quality parts from eBay at huge discounts, but your hurting the companies who R&Ded that product. So there are some quality parts on eBay, just gotta know where to look.
This is very true Dolphin, although at least in this case we can rest assured that china didn't come up with a copy of anything of quality... as these were really disappointing coilovers.
Yeah, the cunts did it to me
They also cost more because defective units are rejected, bringing up the total cost of manufacture. With the cheap stuff you never know what you're going to get, and they often change something (lower quality materials, etc) to make it cheaper.
they would be perfect for a shitty drift missile on a budget
This is so true people need to stop saying that you should only buy from a real name when the Chinese names are real also you assholes what there fake names no there real just not fox greddy HKS bbs or something but they are real names
I bet if they had Tein or Megan sticker on them, he wouldn't know the difference lmfao
I have Megan coilovers in my white MX-5. Trust me, there is a huge difference.
@@Bbeavis yeah the stickers ;)
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 If you say so mate.
@@Bbeavis sure there is a huge difference. It would be pretty bad if f there wasn't really.
But does that actually matter? It is just an elitist mentality in car culture.
Like they are with hifi, and in whiskey and with wines.
Some people act like only top of the line stuff is worthy of concideration.
If i wanna get drunk i buy cheap alcohol. I am not looking to annalize and wonder what flavours and aromas there are in my boxed wine.
And some people just want their car to have a low stance and that is what they buy them for.
Most people i know don't have a clue anyway how their car should drive. How often i notice bad shocks, half flat tires and bad alignments on peoples cars when im riding with them is astonishing. And they never even noticed and still have no idea what i am talking about when i point it out. They got used to it and it is part of their car
I much rather see people buying this then slamming their car down with some cheap lowering springs and then just keep riding their bouncy castle with no shocks left whatsoever.
At least this is safe and a better ride then a lot of peoples stock cars that i know.
It is all relative and you need to see things in a bit of context..
Some never even notice a broken spring or even a flat tire.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 "Does it really matter?"
For the people who just want to slam their car, no. For those of us who actually care about how our cars drive on the track, absolutely yes. Frankly, I'm amazed at how defensive people are getting over these cheap pieces of garbage. I don't get it. They perform exactly as their price suggests. Where's the controversy exactly?
Dude your just reaching to have a problem with them, this whole video your just looking for any excuse. I bought eBay coil overs and honest to god no problem. And I have them adjusted to what I needed and they work perfect for my mazda 3
how are they holding up, planning to get some for my Civic FD, I live in the philippines so I earn next to nothing lmao, ebay coilovers will cost me my 2 week paycheck but I need em, lemme know my dude
Hi Tino, how are your coilovers going now?
Why waste 2500 on a cheap car.. These are well enough for the car.
Have you drove a car with couple thousand dollar coil overs? If so you would know the difference.
Respond about the update on those shitty coilovers or fuck off. I'm sure they was replaced with something else.
He got beat launching his car by a 4 door sedan just accelerating normally. That's really sad
It's not sad. The car is a tiny little MX-5, it has less power than my grandmas corolla!
You do realise that car is quite possibly a LS V8 and plenty fast even if its just the V6.
You don't even drive, kid. You'll understand it one day.
HeartofTacoma I drive a Miata. It’s pretty sad when I’m accelerating “hard” but going slower than a grandma in a Toyota Camry
Looked like a saab I could be wrong but saabs are mostly turbo cars
When you describe the ride feel of those coilovers as 'crashy', I suspect that has more to do with the mx5 being older with wearing suspension parts. The new springs are likely stiffer and it is revealing the weaknesses of the car's aging suspension. Older cars do rattle more. I experienced similar on my AW11 MR2 when I upgraded to high quality lowering springs and struts. Replacing many of the worn out bushings helped out a lot with that.
It seems like those ebay coilovers werent that bad of a deal.
Same deal. I got some cheaper coilovers for my TL - turned out being the control arms, every rubber, etc. That made the most difference!
There's no cushion like the factory struts top hat so they're more harsh. Given that and the increased spring rate.
Swap out the top hats with stock if possible 🙊
This guy is going to wear out the throw out bearing by keeping his hand on the shifter!
It's funny how people claim it's the car, or the bushes, or the driver... yet i swap out the shitty coilovers from some good ones and suddenly it rides beautifully.
China cuts 20% of pricing with brown boxes alone.
LOL
20 percent of your paycheck ends in the recycle bin the moment you come home. Everybody hauling around expensive trash so they can throw it away as soon as they walk in the door.
Most of our trash has seen more of the world then we ever will.
Legend has it that this guy still gets a Clunky crashy feeling even to this day
Not anymore, I installed some Bilsteins :-)
@Sean Price Yep, thanks for your opinion Sean.
@@Bbeavis your money bro, spend it how u like and screw everyone elses opinion. :p
Cayse he didn't set spring preload.
Anyone else see him lose a race during that "launch"?
350hp V8 vs 100hp mazda, not really a "race" haha
BEAVIS Motorsport you right , more like a slaughterhouse lol
LMFAO he did say he was in 1.6 ffs
That Commodore looks like an LS2 powered Clubsport, he's driving a stock 1.6 MX5, what the hell else do you expect?
i thought it went suprisingly good agaisnt the clubby lol
Trying to make something sound bad. When it really isn't.
Oh Adrian, trust me, they really are bad, I had to remove them from the car.
I bought my e36 with racelands and i know the feeling he's talking about. It's pretty bad. BC coilovers were one of the first things I bought for my car. They were worth it for sure. I'd much rather do bilstein shocks with h&r springs over any coilovers under $1k.
Hazem, finally someone who understands decent suspension! :)
BEAVIS Motorsport if you had to remove them, why are you telling people in these comments that you’ll post a follow up video on them “after putting a few more miles on the car”? Just curious
He is right guys, these are absolutely not worth the time money or effort! I had them on my Corolla for not even one day. Save your money and invest in either lowered springs, with new shocks, or invest in a much higher quality brand, if you really love your car. These cause so much noise and rattle when you turn, regardless of how much you adjust them, put grease, etc. Come back and tell me I am right after you try them out. That is if they send the right ones.
My experiences with these coilovers on Lexus IS200:
Cons:
Two of the coilover bodies (the part with the threads) is too long which means either the front or the rear doesn't go as low without lowering the preload below 0.
The top hat for the rear doesnt line up perfectly with the body so you have to file a millimeter out of the hole in the shock tower to fit it trough.
Lacks the stock mounting brackets for ABS sensor wire, so you have to ziptie this on.
The threads are coated steel. The lower body is also coated steel. It does rust after a while. Mine are now seized.
The shocks leak fluid and it fills up the rubber boot.
Pros:
Probably the only coilovers for under 250 bucks which provide
- Top hats
- Separate preload and height adjustment
It's not bad for the price, that said you do get what you pay for.
Hey AX53, thanks for taking the time to share your experience! Certainly sounds like your experience match my suspicions that these are pretty poor quality, despite looking good for the price. Thanks for watching!
You know your cars slow then a stock looking eco tec commo takes you off the lights
That is MX-5 life.... :)
I was looking for a comment like this lmao. He made noooo comment on that either haha
I was hoping I was not the only one that noticed that! Lmao
When "launching" , but I'm sure he doesn't have as much fun as we do driving Miatas 😌
Take that miata through a curvy road and you'll know the enjoyment of driving one. That's what they were built for. Not drag racing.
I just got a pair of ones just like this by RacingWarehouse. Shit, if you guys want I’ll put a video up of how they make my E46 ride.
Oh cool, are they any good?
Little did I know the Race Warehouse coils are in fact the same Maxpeedingrods brand that you reviewed. That was a bit misleading on the seller aspect but if they end up making me happy I can’t complain right? I should be doing my install in the next couple weeks as I am very busy. One thing I’ve been hearing a lot is that I should upgrade the top hats on these.
If you go into a situation expecting the worse, you’ll get the worse. You can’t expect to be pleased if you weren’t seeking it in the first place
A bit like the comments in TH-cam haha!
"I'm not gonna bore you on how to install the coilovers" - pretty much shows the whole procedure on how to install them
Ziggy R came to comments and thought that would be top comment. I guess not.
A time lapse isn't equivalent to a "how to"
Yeah this was FAR from a "how to".
Just cause it's crappy for this guy don't mean it will be for your car, don't eat up his advice 100%
That is the luxury of the internet, you can just keep searching until you find the answer that you want to hear. :-P
His advice is accurate though. On my older cars i used TA technix coils. Its like ebay coils but with a german brand behind it.
And even those where the worst fucking crap ive ever laid my money on.
First of i had to drill the hole on the coil for the lower control arm, because it was to small. They didnt hold the alignment at all.
They rattled and bumped even though everything was tightened to spec. And since i live in sweden, they became proper rust "towers".
One thing ive learned. You should not cheap out on coilovers.
had ebay coilover on my S13, loved them. 1/3 of a price of real coils. Didn't notice difference in the ride quality from brand name coils. And I didn't buy my S13 for the ride quality in the first place
Glad to hear they are working for you Al
I've thought of doing the same. I only need 1" drop on my GS300
I've had bcs, racelands, eBays, etc etc. Honestly.. there's really no different other than adjustable dampening.. lol
@@brendanmay8527 Exactly.. lol.. But even in the car community you have the "boogie" guys 😂 We dont kick it with these guys, we just smoke them and their $2k coilovers on the freeway 🤣
@@brendanmay8527 Have you tried Ohlins?
*The comment section is hilarious! At least 95% of the comments are telling him that HE was the problem, and not the coilovers* 😂😂😂
Haha, I like your comment. It seems I upset a few people with my silly little video.
because it ISNT the coilovers.. this guy is a total effin moron
BC Racing coilovers are definitely not cheep coilovers 😂😂😂😂
In terms of a quality coilover that actually works, yes they are. It's all relative. You can easliy pay over $5000 or more for coilovers.... so $1200 or less for BC's is cheap.
For motorsport applications, even at an amateur level, $5-10k suspension setups are pretty common.
BigNVeiny knows whats up!
Sometimes you're also limited by what's even being made for your vehicle. BC Racing is one of the few companies that makes em for a PT Cruiser, so they've been on my "list" for possible options.
TrueNomadSkies i feel you there. most of the cars ive owned have a very limited aftermarket parts selection, so actually finding stuff that bolts right up is like a miracle lol
Expensive coilovers ride harsh too.
Perhaps. Or then perhaps they are just overpriced.
But the valving and the way they handle bump and rebound is far beyond that of cheaper coilovers. Bilstein pss9 and Öhlins Road and track are fine examples of this
If "expensive" high quality coilover also ride harsh for you, you got the wrong spring rates for the driving your doing and/or have the damping set up wrong
Not if you use proper springs for your car and the driving you do.
If you just use whatever comes standard with the kit you will have a shitty ride indeed. Things do not have to be that way though.
@@Fonzizzz bilstein pss9s are way to bumpy. Had them on my rs6 and the back got launched into the air everytime i took a speed bump faster then 3 miles an hour.
And the car was barely lower then stock.
Never got them to work properly. Went back to koni sports and like them a lot more.
Then again, maybe i just got a bad set or something. Who knows.
I had these in my car for 2 years. Lower my car 4 inches and rode great way better then stock. No rattles or anything at all car also only had 100,000 miles. I also only paid 300 for mine
What car do you have them on?
18:50 hahaha that commy racing you at the lights, so typical 😂
I don't think it was intentional :-P
you got Chopped! by a honda civic 1.7L LOL
or is it a honda civic?
Ken D no it’s a Holden commodore
Holden commodore.Is this guy aussie or kiwi?
Saying coilovers are soft there not meant to be soft there meant to be stiff and keep the car stiff
I didn't say they need to be soft, but they should be compliant and comfortable, they aren't meant to be crashy.
I just can’t bring myself to spend 2x the price of my car on coilovers
And rightly so if it doesn't make sense to you. But I also don't want to encourage people to make their car worse by installing shit, even keeping oem parts is better than these china-spec coilovers. For me, I paid $5,000 for my car, but it probably has $15k or more worth of parts installed on it. I'm quite content with that because I do what I enjoy.
@@Bbeavis I'm in college... so I don't have that sort of money lying around... that said, I think sometimes cheapish coilovers are a little better than 30 year old stock springs. Plus I want the car a little lower/ more tossable.
@@michaeljoseph4314 "When they make the whip you like, you're chips ain't right. By the time you can afford it, the car ain't important" ~ Nas
Just go with Eibach lowering springs for a better stance and performance on a budget. They are great springs, and cost about $300 on average (varies on make-model) They come in 2-3 tiers starting at around 1.2" drop. You will be quite surprised at how much better the car will handle as well for just a few hundo. great company, been around for a very long time, and most people's go to. Lifetime warranty and all springs specific designed and tested for each model.
@@Bbeavis hey my eclipse has 3 bad struts, I'm looking online and these ebay coilovers are a cheaper option than doing all 4 struts. would you suggest it? I'm not really worried about lowering and stancing it, I just want to get it to pass inspection. but I wouldn't mind if it was a little lower, 3g eclipse sits a little high.
You get what you pay for, only fuckbois argue that their cars value means they cheap out on decent parts. That's why they don't really hit the track and can't afford maintenance on their cars but buy chinese rims and quick release bumper kits with speed holes on stock cars lol
Thanks Mac, I'm glad you appreciate some quality in you cars.
Don't get me started on rep wheels....
surprisingly i actually like my ebay coil overs ( cx-racing ). however i have not had high end coil overs. i simply was switching from my stock ones to these.
They are 32 way adjustable, you can fully adjust preload etc. I actually love the feel of them. i have them with just a bit of preload and they arent favorite stiff or hard i just based it off going all the way hard and then 16 clicks out to be basically in the middle of soft and hard setting and then gradually worked a couple clicks towards hard.
But i noticed right off the bat the steering actually seemed easier as if it required less effort to turn in at higher speeds. i also noticed much less body roll as the car felt like it was more flat instead of wanting to tilt in turns.
and it actually handles bumps well. The car entirely is more predictable and steady in the canyons which is my primary style of driving. i've had them on the car for 3 years and they don't make any bad sounds, nothing has broken or come out of alignment. and i honestly would buy them again for a different car.
Hey Review Guy, thanks for taking the time to write. Glad to hear the CX-racing gear is working well. What car do you have them in?
People give me crap for this haha but i have them in my mkiv toyota supra.
but i honestly have no issues with them so i have no regrets with using a affordable set of coil overs for that car. I mean don't get me wrong if i could id buy a nice high end set of coil overs for it.
The thing is though.. not all of us who own supras are exactly financially stable or wealthy. Its funny because people automatically assume that if you have a supra you must spend top dollar on them or nothing at all. but at the end of the day... its still a toyota.
At 17:50: it doesn't feel soft!! Lmao they're lower and tighter of course!!! Looks like shitty suspension on nice cheap coilovers, and a MaXlow = Max Slow car
Nice coilovers? Please. They are anything but nice.
@@Bbeavis I was contemplating a set on my RT challenger, but all these mixed reviews are scaring me, I hear a few great review then a few bad, I'm lost sadly!!
@@wobblinwobbler1482 Perhaps it depends on peoples past experiences. So those who are new to coilover and suspension options may think these are good purely because they make a car feel firm and that is perceived as correct. Or it may be a result of different cars reacting differently, for example perhaps the manufacturer has a spring/damper valving setup that works better for a larger car than it does for a smaller car.
@@Bbeavis well I'll be looking for a set with damper control about 1+ inch drop and a couple of camber bushings/ balljoints and I don't have $1000's to pay so I'll just keep reviewing and maybe I'll find something other than MAX PEE PEE!!!
Did you tension the spring? I noticed u can take them apart with out a spring Compressor cus they can be adjusted. Maybe that noise is the spring weakly sitting on the upper and lower springs mounts? Idk. New shocks usually feel really firm new. I got new stock ones and had like no body roll for couple weeks. Then they loosed up to a stock feel.
Hi Salvatore, thanks for watching! I do believe the springs were seated correctly within their mounts - I find the 'noise' is just a result of the rough ride these offer on my little car.
BEAVIS Motorsport ok makes sense.
Just got these for my Civic, and installed them a week ago. They're definitely on a softer side compared to coilover sleeves (Ground Control) I've had in the past. But they're still stiff... Like, they absorb bumps very well without having a race-car-like ride. The ride quality isn't "jarring", its not so stiff where make it would make you cringe, It's very comfortable an smooth. There was a moment where another Civic was next to me on the highway (most likely on sleeved coilovers on possibly blown shocks) an was bouncing like crazy... looked like he was saddling a horse, while mine was a lot lower in height, an was completely still... floating on the road cruising 70mph, absorbing the road perfectly. These don't bounce at all, an I made sure they were preloaded before I installed. Some may not want a soft ride on a drift car / track car, but for a daily street car it's perfect imo. I love these.
I have these , how do you make them not bounce ? Does bounce mean blown shocks?
Interesting to hear, how are they holding up DSM?
Longevity, that is the real question...new & shiney out of the box, but how will they be in 6 mo, 1yr, 2yrs, etc...other differences is how they handle bump & rebound cycling...did you corner weight the n/a after a bit?
I got these a year ago just to replace the oems that previous owner never replaced and they're already rusting which started a few months after being installed and I live in Arkansas
No, the car was not corner weighted, really that would have been a waste of time. These things aren't worth the trouble.
I bought them and can't get rid of the clunks, the handling is good but I'm too embarassed to take anyone out in it sounds like a drum kit not tied down in a trailer behind me.
Make sure the o rings are in place mine did that too in the beginning I greased the pillow ball and notice my o rings we're off so make sure they're on! And also check your control arms
Haha I like your metaphor John.
I have those same brand coilovers for my VW GTI mk3 and they've been working fine for me for 2 years so far. They took almost a month to settle in and smooth out. But I haven't had any rattles or loss in dampening. They were really clunky for about a month tho. In my opinion, for a daily driver they are fine, but I would never expect them to hold up on the track. The coil itself holds up just fine but its hard to go wrong with a coil unless it snaps or changes geometry. The only thing that is lacking about them is the dampener. On mine the dampener and lower mount are one piece but on you're the dampener is a separate piece which I think is a good thing because you could just buy better dampeners that have the same threading and upgrade your coilovers. Also I had the same paperwork as you and where it says that the dampener is adjustable at the top its not true. Mine said the same thing but spinning that rod does nothing to the dampening.
Thanks for the info Technician, appreciate the heads up. Glad to hear they are working ok for you.
Good video,just curious did the ride height drop at all after a week or two once the coilovers had bed in?
I'd like to know how they settle in after a weekend or 500kms+ of driving around on some "C roads", if they survive it without blowing a seal or busting a weld. Put them to some hard work. I'd expect both the springs and the dampening to soften up markedly; even top end mfgrs over-rate the starting figures so that prolonged life is nearer the quoted figure. Top end mfgrs however will aim to put the production figure closer to the quoted figure so that the high paying end user is happy from the get-go, I wouldn't expect the lower end mfgr to have such a customer oriented approach; they're more likely to over-engineer for longevity, or simply not care at all.
There was no perceived change.
@@Bbeavis I bought a set, NB, and they quite good for the money. Mine did settle a little, about 3/8", but that was after chasing every rut, pothole, corrugation, and rough country road I could find... Even mud and gravel... and running them with fully soft dampening. And they performed very well on all surfaces.
I got these installed professionally. No complaints here, no clunking at all, great purchase for them, I feel them to be actually decent an drive well.
Glad to hear they worked out OK for you carlos!
Hey Carlos did they manage to lower your car evenly and more than the rear ones on the video?
@carlos got any photos from the new height?
I actually bet that this guy adjusted the shock tension while the coilovers were mounted, hence the clunking from the loose springs
They only make that clunking noise if the springs are tightened too much. I've had these on my 4g eclipse since I've bought it and have no problems. U should research how to adjust them before making a review
Hi Andrew, I'm sorry but I am not sure I agree. I have every confidence that they were correctly setup, and that spring preload does not induce a bad ride. Perhaps your eclipse is better suited to these coilovers than a smaller MX-5 Miata.
I had them.on my.5th gen.prelude I just sold, and my new car is a 1992 prelude. Guess what's going on them??!! MAXPEEDINGRODS! for 200 bucks, you cant go.wrong.
One thing I noticed is the( pivotball?) on the front ones makes a lot of noise... so this time 8m going to.pavk them with some kind of grease that isn't harmful to the rubber.
Iv ran those coil overs on my s13 for about 1.5 years and I haven't had any of these problem that thump is you not having the right preload setting and or your coil over not being tight at the top.
I suspect the manufacturer never tested these coilovers on a car as light as the miata. Please note that spring preload does not alter ride quality, the spring rate is constant. And i can assure you they were 'tight at the top'. The poor ride is a result of bad design and lack of testing of the dampening rate in relation to the spring rate and vehicle geometry.
I suspect that too. They did not properly test them on many models of vehicles. Some have success with these, and some people don't. I personally tried every thing to make them stop making noise, (tightened the top fastener, all the nuts at the top mount, camber bolts, preload all that, pretty much everything, I have installed quality coil overs before and never had issues as much as I had with these! Took them off after a day of wasting time and swearing. Ive also heard that some people have received the wrong sets (rear set not aligning etc) so just do your research beforehand.
Skip to the drive/ride review @16:00
Thanks Zone, I hope the video was interesting for you!
not trying to attack you personally, i think enough people have already done that, but i have to say that you come across as a very pretentious and snobby person when it comes to car parts. im sure this one 20 minute video doesnt encapsulate your whole personality but thats the impression i get from it. im sure there are better coilovers out there for thousands of dollars but no one who can afford those is watching this video. the people who are only want to know if these coilovers are worth the money (which this video didnt really answer) not if they stack up to parts that are on hundred thousand dollar professional drift cars. i think thats why this comment section is full of so many negative people, because youve attracted the target market of this product and basically did nothing but insult their (our) intelligence and the quality of the products they (we) use.
i think the format of your video was really well done, you were somewhat thorough without rambling and included some useful information. i wish you would have gone into more detail about how or why the coils were making that "crashing" sound but otherwise you did a great job, just try to keep in mind who your audience is when you make another video like this and consider the possibility that just because something is cheap doesnt mean its worthless.
Thank you for taking the time to comment James, i really appreciate it. I do think the video is still valid and for the most part is still accurate. I do also believe that a large portion of the unhappy commenters are in denial, or just don't agree with my opinion. Just because I don't like something, and someone else does, doesn't mean one of us is right or wrong. In my opinion, these coilovers are not worth the trouble. People come to this video in the hope that their dreams of the cheap solution to coilovers is validated- fair enough. But at the end of the day, I'm not going to recommend them, no matter how many people don't agree with me or say I'm a snob.
It should be mentioned, I'm driving a $2000 MX-5, so certainly far from a snobby car - this ain't no high end, or big power or big dollar car.
I have found this to be completely opposite, James. BEAVIS Motorsport, I found, provided a great review on these as I saw a set on eBay for sale going real cheap at an auction. Having never heard of them before and seeing the images, they looked like a quality unit. Glad I found this video - BEAVIS noted MANY good points about these coilovers but looks can be decieving. I guess its a case of the placebo effect.... You think they are good but most people fitting these do not care for ride comfort or handling capabilities. Everyone that has commented on this video has mentioned they ride fine on the street, sure but what about on a race track with long sweeping bends for example. You want to make sure your suspension keeps them tyres in contact with the ground, especially when doing 100mph+
I’ve been running these cheap coil over kit for 6 years now but you need the upgraded shock option for dampening 32 wat adjustments for an additional 150.00 all around makes all the difference in ride quality! When I installed them ppl said there crap but my opinion is for street use not track use there perfect they haven’t leaked or gone bad in 40 k 6 years on my 2001 Bmw 330i sedan been perfect !!
I haven't seen an adjustable option for the MX-5 Miata.
BEAVIS Motorsport idk about the miata I believe they do I have my kit on my TH-cam channel e46
He is making an honest and transparent review on a cheap set of coil overs. I do not see anything wrong with that and most of the youtubers praising this shithole product have been sponsored as nothing negative is stated or just a minor con is told. Im glad BEAVIS has made a video on these coilovers as I am now more knowledgable that 'cheap coil overs are not the way to go if you are after a quality product', therefore, buying a genuine cheap set for $1200 will allow for decent quality and will last for many years to come.
Thank you for the kind words Cyax, I appreciate your respectful perspective.
Did you adjust the damping force? *Are* they adjustable for damping?
There is no adjustment of the dampening.
Dang, should have got the $500 ones (I checked out maxspeeding rods' ebay shop, they have them).
They don't stock them for my Echo for some reason, maybe I need a cooler car?
There *is* a way to adjust damping though, but it's not easy. You can disassemble them completely and change the oil, drill the holes out, or mess with the shims. You won't be able to re-charge the gas yourself though
Skippy they have adjustable damping version for some cars...
Yeah TDR, these were the bargain basement ones, no adjust ability in dampening.
Some people consider these for performance but at this price they are cheaper than originals lol
Thanks!
I don't have coilovers but I did replace the suspension on my jeep. I have struts on the front shocks on the back. I used Monroe brand because my local parts store sells them and their made in the US and not China lol. Anyway my ride is now noisy. It pisses me off so bad lol. It doesn't so much feel bad I guess just not as good as the stock that was on it but sounds like yours. Only reason I replaced mine is because the front was smashed into a year ago by and old man and the shop screwed me over big time. Anyway I didn't notice until a year later but what I imagine happened is the strut tower got bent slightly where it holds the spring and over time the powder coat peeled off in that spot and then rusted. After it rusted it got weak and bent downward pretty bad and started make a loud noise. Unfortunately my spring compressor won't compress my springs on the jeep so I had to get quick struts
Sorry to hear of your troubles my2centz, I hope you find a solution someday. It's a shame you've opted for a brand like Monroe and still ended up with a disappointing ride.
mate i have had the maxpeeding coilover kit in my vt commodore for 2 over 2 years now. yes they are stiff but handling along with strutt braces and aftermarket sway bars the old vt handles like a dream.. and thats hard for a vt-vz... i put them in because they were cheaper than a new set of struts and rear shocks and havent looked back. the only knocking noise i got was from a lower ball joint. maybe you could have installed them wrong?
i have a picture of mine after 2 years and the shocks still bounce back like they should. cant post pic here though
I installed them correctly, they just aren't suited to the car. Perhaps the manufacturer has only one valving setup which is more suited to a 1600kg car rather than our little 950kg machine.
It would be appropriate to check the coil overs after the ride and see if you can spot the reason for the clunk. Since there shouldn't be a noise at all, even a poor quality shock system does not make noises, unless the rubber bushings are utter garbage.
I did have some real cheap Mexican built shocks where you could hear the damper valves, THAT was annoying and no good.
Perhaps the rear springs are too stiff, are you sure the rating and the preload are correct?
Spring adjustments only do that much, the actual spring is where it's at.
Also, avoid bottoming out the damper rod by adjusting the spring too low.
Hey Obsession, These are genuinely just crappy quality and the unnerving noises are a direct result of poor quality and lack of real testing by the manufacturer. Preload has no effect on spring rate or ride quality.
Thanks for watching!
roger that, thanks for the update.
Really love your way of presentation...many youtubers only make an install video of coilovers but never managed to describe clearly what difference does they make. Looking forward if you can do different coilover reviews with a similar format!
Thanks chungman. I didn't want to cover the 'install' too much, as it's been done to death and it's really not that hard, people dont need to watch that... instead I wanted to focus on really giving these coilovers a chance and trying to show what they are really like.
I've been looking at a set of tein street basis Z and they're $550 US with no top hat, you have to use the stock top hat, the next step up the flex model is pushing $800 USD. Like the other comment, just because it's made in China doesn't mean it's cheaply made because most of everything you get is from China weather it's shipped to your local store and you buy it there or you buy it directly from China and it's shipped to you it was still loaded in a shipping container and sent to your country. There is a difference between cheap and inexpensive
I'm not saying "made in china" mean's it's crap. I'm saying that made, designed and "QC'd" in china means it's crap.
There's a difference between a good brand with real engineering and RnD that made in china to a crappy chinese knock off.
It says right there on the customer service card "Also known as maxspeedingrods".
:-)
F***ing useless piece of junks...max speed rods i think are the worst budget coils....not the cheapest...but the worst...the ride is extremely stiff and makes the car undriveable.i had them on am e46 coupe and the back of the car was bouncing on the road,the back wheels were lifting of the ground.i also had ta technix witch were a lot better ...
Dinu knows whats up!
Nah man, installed them on my VT Commy last week and they are a blast, no clunks, a tad bouncy in the rear but that is my fault for not enough spring preload, it handles 20x better than the stock suspension (my old rear shocks were blown), an absolute blast to throw around, not too bad comfort wise either, but I did get the adjustable damper ones.
@@The2OfAwesomeGamers
Exactly, you bought shite coilovers to replace shite stock suspension... Lumps of wood, would have probably been better!
Nice that they include drain holes for the shock fluid to drain out once they start leaking in a few months!
Haha, exactly Paul!
For condensation ..rust prevention
Cost savings my dude, cost savings. I'm so down with these
Save a buck now and it'll cost you in about 3 months when these things leak all over your driveway.
@@Bbeavis Or when your car gets totalled when you push them to hard through a roundabout
I bought a set of these for a daily driven little 1991 corolla with the adjustable dampening, and after about 2000 miles they’ve settled nicely, they’re not “comfortable” but for $300, they’re cheaper and handle better than replacing all four springs and struts. And don’t require reconstruction like the stock setup, since they come preassembled. Overall the ride quality is actually not bad, over the sudden changes they are harsh a bit but not unbearable.
Thanks for the feedback Tuna, glad to hear you're at least happy with them :)
I wouldn’t say “happy” but content with the cost in comparison to all OE replacement shocks/springs, and top hats, considering they were all completely destroyed when the car was originally purchased.
Tuna Garage i hrard ppl actually buy these because the quality of the strut is good but everything else is bad or something like that and ppl just rebuild them with better parts. so in the end still comes out cheaper than actual good brand.
I got some of these because they where cheaper than the oem shocks springs. I replaced everything arms ball joints track rod ends the lot. I lowered by only 1 inch cause its for a honda accord workhorse not a racer. 200k miles on the clock. I got a non camber non damper adjustable set. It says it has a pillow joint but its a rubber bushing. Not sure how or why but lemme tell u this. Its absolutely beautiful to drive now. No noises whatever and its just right stiffness. Maybe twice the oem but it takes the bumps beautiful no clunks nothing. I lowered by 30mm only as I don't care about cosmetics. I guess time will tell
Nice work man, thanks for watching :)
mike hunt would you say the ride quality is better than lowering springs or the infamous "cut springs"
Ride quality is good. Stiffer through the bends not to bad over the bumps. I changed all of the arms and ball joints too. Installing these with worn arms / ball joints will amplify any noises coming from those worn parts.
That said be sure to tighten the top strut nuts as they came loose after 1 week !... the company also sent the wrong rear shocks. They sent shocks for the saloon model not the estate despite me giving the the reg and specifying estate. The company did give me a partial refund and il flog them on, but I have to say the company hasn't a clue what its doing saying things like "can u modify them on" when the suspension is completely different on the rear lol
mike hunt thanks for your input. I know , it's seems like your talking to a robot when you need customer service. I was asking them questions on eBay and they seemed kinda retarded, but they gave me a good price for the set.
Angel Martinez cut springs aren't bad at all as long as u have good. Struts but they do wear the struts out quicker
Maybe a stupid question, but did you checked if the clunky noise came from the pillowballs in the top mount? As in disassebled view they seems totally dry, not a bit of grease on them - problem which has been noticed from a lot of maxpeeding users. As for damiping instead? What's your feedback - not considering noisy notes. Thanks.
Never a stupid question. Being double a-arm, pillow balls on an MX-5 miata are not really required. There isn't the levels of movement at the top mount like there is with say a mcpherson strut. I suspect the damping was the cause of the worst of the ride 'quality'.
You can also stiffen or soften the ride by adjusting the damping, just need take off the cap on the top and turn it to the left. Very easy to do and that will definitely help the ride immensely...
To adjust the damping to be softer, turn the adjusting knob counter clock-wise. To make the damping stiffer, turn the adjusting knob clock-wise.
Actually, these coilovers have no damper adjustment.
The issue i had where one of mine was clunking is because i didn't tighten the top nut(On the strut) when it was on the ground and a small drive was all it took for the clunking to get much louder. Tighten while on the ground
Glad to hear you got that resolved Kalisto!
It's funny how you keep mentioning how the packaging was rough and quick but effective. I would take that as a compliment if I was the Chinese manufacturer. They ride that razor edge so perfectly of cutting corners and being as janky and rough as possible, while still giving an expected level of quality and utility when all is said and done. It is innovative and skillful and it's part of the reason they dominate the world with merchandise. Why take the extra costly man hours and expensive resources of having perfectly cut and custom shaped nice foam inserts to protect during shipping, when they have a bunch of random foam strips left over that they could just cut up. They are making the best out of what is around them and thinking on the fly effectively.
As for the maXpeedingrods (and I love that name it's the only thing I've ever considered getting tattooed on my body because I just think it's that good) I have had a set on my Matrix now for a few years and they finally wore out but they were great for the years they worked and I don't blame them for wearing out I drove them through harsh vermont winters with salted roads and terrible construction bumps and bridge joints. But 200 dollars to last your suspension for 2 or 3 years is actually an acceptable price if you just considered them wearable parts. The rears still work the fronts have just locked up from corrosion and dirt and salt and debris. I just ordered a replacement set and plan on just unfortunately putting my stock suspension in for the winter this winter. Even though it looks ridiculous with 5 inch fender height gaps with the stock stuff. It's just not worth ruining the lowering susp.
Glad to hear you had a positive experience with them sirgallium :-)
Most manufacturer suspension can and does last the life of the car, so $200 for suspension to only last 2 years, is in fact, shite.
Just get Bilstein B6/B8 shocks and Eibach Pro-Kit/Sportline springs. Both products are from experts in their fields, are homologated for road use, you can buy them together as a package and the shocks are rebuildable.
Thanks!
🤣 my favorite part in this video is at ‘18:52’ you see the Accord just WALK AWAY silently 🤣
It is a Holden Commodore
Hi, I've got mine installed and notice that the rubber "washer" on my front right slipped off. Does it make any difference with or without the washers? It made a constant clunking noise as I drove down my driveway. I brought it to the mechanic and while on my way to the shop, the noise was gone, the mechanic told me that the rubber that slipped off is not the reason why it made that noise. He asked me to take a photo of it and send it to the ebay seller.
I would expect the difference should be minimal. But i wonder if the clunking noises you hear are just the way these coilovers are. I experienced a similar type of noise and put it down to the inferior design.
@@Bbeavis I went to another mechanic for second opinion and I've been told that the rear suspension doesn't have a reaction, it doesn't spring down making it bumpy, the rear wheels almost have the same distance (vertically) on the ground and when it's jacked up. Told me that the front springs are rotating instead of the bushing which is the reason for the noise. I've been ripped off. 🤔
@@jmwreck Oh no sorry to hear. I have so many commenters in this video who say how these coilovers are great and call me all sorts of names because i DIDN'T recommend them, but after my own experiences, and when hearing stories like yours, I feel like I am justified with my opinion.
You drive over speed bumps way to fast 😂
They are pretty big and gradual humps, they can easily be taken at 40kmh in my everyday sedan.
😂😂😂😂
BEAVIS Motorsport an mx5 isn’t an everyday sedan though
Seemed like they weren't as abrupt as the speed bumps in my city or what other people may be used to. We have speed bumps and humps here, the humps are big and gradual usually on roads and the bumps are tall and abrupt usually found in parking lots.
lmao i was thinking that i have to crawl over speed bumps and do the honda shuffle but then again i have racelands ultimos and the cars slammed //don’t recommend lol
Thank you for your honest review. It seems you are very passionate about cars so it's only natural you would be a perfectionist about it. I'm the same way with art, so I can relate with art supplies.
That said, as some say, you get what you paid for, so I'm about to make a purchase of some new Shocks and Struts and they are not close to 2500 to 5000, but they are about 1000.
However, me and my dad were originally going to buy a kit from Amazon and Ebay for like 500 or less around 400. And I have been heavily researching some quality Shocks and Struts, I'm not a street racer or any sort, I just need some quality suspensions that will last longer than the cheap ones we were originally gonna buy that were on Amazon and Ebay. I'm assuming the 1000 to 1500 suspensions are not HIGH tier race quality but do you think they would be just good for daily driving?
It can depend on your specific car and where you are located, but certainly for a street only vehicle you can find many options for under $1500, just try find a product that matches your desired ride/comfort.
18:55 That legacy passed you thinking 'Just the casual morning trip to the office' And you 'Full race mode bitch...go miata go! .. who tf is that mad man??' _puts head down in defeat_ lol
That's the life of a MX-5 with now power! hah!
Hey it was actually a Holden Commodore :-)
Did you adjust the dampeners at all? From their site the gold ones are 24 way adjustable I believe...it’s possible they were on max stuff?
Never mind they sell the none adjustable dampening shocks in the color too, were yours the adjustable ones?
Hey Crx, indeed this set that I purchased did not come with any form of damper adjustment.
I appreciate the upload but he’s kinda....very annoying. What else do you expect from $250 coilovers off of eBay......
Hey Indecisyve, I guess that's a valid point - I did expect they'd be pretty average for the price. But half the comments I see here criticize me for saying they are disappointing, and suggest I am a pompous fancy-pants and people seem to say that they are perfectly fine. So it's impossible to please everyone! haha. But hey, I bought them to find out for myself and now I know. Thanks for watching!
Just did a miata front end, new kyb shocks, new upper and lower control arms and ball joints and the car feels so much better. Youd get more for your money bringing back to stock with new ball joints and bushings than knockoff coilovers. New ball joints will make way more of a difference than new springs
I have indeed gone back to OEM shocks, wayyyyyyy better than these chinese coilovers.
A great experiment and a good video. A tip: when setting/checking the ride height, roll the car backwards & forwards to unload the suspension and sidewalls; as they will load up laterally when lowered from the stands/jacks.
I briefly mentioned in the video how i had to work the car a few times to get it where I wanted, however I didn't show or mention that its important to give the suspension some bounces and movement... so thanks for the tip, this is a good addition!
He finds out they bottom out , so he sets ‘em up to bottom out. Hey? How do they ride?
Sorry STAYUP, but I think you are mistaken on how i setup bump travel correctly. I did not setup anything to bottom out. I set it up to have the most possible bump travel while maintaining the desired ride height.
You're actually supposed to loosen all rubber bushing bolts and re torque when it's sitting on the ground level, or else the rubber bushings die
HEY HOw long did these lAST BEFORE U HAD TO DO MAINTENANCE?
About 1 month.
I'd rather have packaging like that than pay through my nose for perfectly formed foam that I'm gonna be throwing away.
80% of R&D goes into packaging design. Hence the high prices. Majority it's a con. Like sprinkling glitter on shit and selling it for more.
For what they are, I'd give those coilovers 7.5/10.
I don't think I had any concern with the packaging, just that it was kind of amusing. Personally I felt these coilovers were a pretty poor performer for my car.
@@Bbeavis agree they wouldn't be suitable for your time attack. But for what they are and for people on a tight budget, they'll do just fine.
Great video my man! Too many people and companies out there spreading bad information about setting up coilovers. I'm about to finally get mine working hopefully tonight and your video is totally motivating me haha! 🤙🏽 Too many months and extra money spent on this project hah. I started with 6kg in front and 5kg progressive v-barrel (IRS mind you) rear 😂 corner weights somewhere in the 800lbs range so around 360-400kg lol. Let's just say I permanently compressed 2 pairs of springs already in front (the 6kg and 8kg),10kg is holding and now to put in the Swift adapters and 14kg! Thanks for pumping me up! 💪🏽👈🏽
Thank you mate, love your enthusiasm... great to hear you are finding a solution that works well for your car!
I have these on my NB miata
Perfect for drifting and daily
Since 1 year
How are they holding up mate?
BEAVIS Motorsport you literally wait and ask ? 😂 cmon you hold grudge to negative comments huh
@@Moctify I was just asking a question.
@@Bbeavis
Thats because they have probably fallen apart and wont admit to it haha
@@brassmonkeegaming8583 nope
Still not leaking
Now they are bad for my usage
With +200hp turbo miata
They are unprecise and bouncy
Maybe next one are BC Racing
Hey, nice review but I'd like to respectfully disagree on all terms.
I bought a 1990 Miata for 2 grand with 2 blown shocks, on lowering springs, driver rear was scraping on the CV axle with 2 people in the car.
So I bought the CHEAPEST ebay coilovers with adjustable damper for $199. They fit 100% with no issues, the only issues was taking out the old struts.
The car is lowered to the halfway point, and the coilover damper is set to the softest point. The car rides "okay". No noises or squeaks, the car doesn't bottom out, suspension feels tight. I took it to an autocross and set the damper to max stiff, and to my surprise: it did something! The car had less body roll on my full stuff runs than my full soft, but way more oversteer.
In the end, I spent $200 on coilovers for a rusty $2,000 miata. No, I'm not going to go get coilovers that cost half the price of the car, that's ridiculous. If it was a nicer, 5 grand car, I'd definitely consider getting something nicer.
But for $200, they allow me to lower and raise the car, ride fairly nice, though I dont have a basis of comparison, and have adjustable dampening. All for under $200.
They definitely have their place in the world, and they work.
Thanks for sharing Pavel. I am glad you found a solution that worked for you.
Can you share a link?
@@RyosukeTakahashiRX7 rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F113656351649
@@Kajacot Thanks! Really needed new ones but i don't want to spend too much. Hope they hold what you promised.
I really like that ride height from when you first showed the ride height. Looks good and not stupid low.
Thanks for watching Swermie, I certainly try not to go stupid low. The car is supposed to be usable.
I bought some 500$ coil overs, and had to return them because the lower part of the strut was against the axle boot. Didn't even attempt to drive it, put them right back in the box. Intend to buy some Tein struts and keep the original springs. That way there's no fitment issues.
Thanks for sharing :-)
so just what was the conclusion ,,,, did i miss that part .
or was it just that 400 quid parts are 400 quid good
and 1800 quid parts are 1800 quid good.
I think your summary is, in a way, quite accurate. Fundamentally, yes, 400 buck coils perform like you'd expect for 400 bucks.
remember .. 90 percent of all the high branded things you buy actually get manufactured in the same place as the ebay china parts and then marked up massively to sell in Europe and USA .. the china based company's come to deals with the manufacturing too make them cheaper if they can use the parts in non make parts too .. this is super common most of the china car parts are actually good and not hurting the company's who do the research and development as they get that back from the 1% in the first burst of sales , the rest is just profit .. its only since trading via china has opened up more that we see the vast difference in what we got and what they have , also saving money on the packing is fine i would rather a box and some paper filler than a 200 dollar case they come in that i will never use past the first 10 mins of opening it .. also your driving an older car that was not designed to be on the type of coilovers you bought so will feel unusual . nothing will ever feel like OEM they would be worn in and loose at the time you got the car so softer and more forgiving . you can emulate that by getting some coilovers that have adjustable damping and pre charge rates as well as running the spring longer to allow it to bed(break in) .
Thanks for watching soooooooperspeed
Thanks for the video. Sounds as if they're pretty good coil overs for $400...can you post the link so we can support the supplier? Cheers!
They are pretty easy to find with a quick google search, try this:
www.aliexpress.com/item/4000039102963.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.630c4c56eQARvs&algo_pvid=55c6de35-6408-4f2c-9eaa-63b0149f3420&algo_expid=55c6de35-6408-4f2c-9eaa-63b0149f3420-0&btsid=c0ff84a8-8a4a-466f-bf3d-e9634763e0d2&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_9,searchweb201603_53
Haha!
You fr, support the supplier my ass. Support the real companies that designed these products...
Think the springs don’t have enough preload in them they don’t seem to spring back into position quick enough to take the next bump in the road
Hmm, i think if these shocks were taken to a proper suspension engineer for setup they'd just throw them in the trash and say it's not worth the bother to even try :D
True xD
I have these on my 2011 GT. They're the adjustable dampening ones and they work quite well. Valving and spring rate seem spot on to give a firm ride but not overly harsh. I do have an issue with one of my pillow balls binding then popping though. Minor inconvenience for the $230 USD I paid for them 🤣
What 2011 GT are you referring to exactly?
its a pillow bearing, grease it and the knock stops, plus they have to bed in for bout a month then readjust.
I just bought some of these maxspeedingrods and they seem good. the only issue I have had I had to drill out the stock holes on the front struts because they were slightly off. So far easy to adjust. Only other issue have to mark with a sharpie to count how many rotations of the sleeve. Mentioned firmness if you loosen the center bolt it makes softer.
Thanks London, glad to hear they're working well for you!
China builds things to the spec's of the client. If the client wants higher quality, that's what they get.
Even name brand products are built in China. They build them to spec.
China has come a long way in the quality of their production. They want repeat customers and probably trying to shake their bad reputation.
China can make some very high quality things, you just have to pay for it.
Keeping in mind that old saying, "if it's too good to be true, it probably is".
I've been watching many videos on the breakdown if tools/testing Chinese tools against the high end counterpart tools.
Very interesting. The cheeper Chinese tools holdup very well compared to the cost.
You are quite right in many respects Frank, but to clarify, this was a test of a "chinese designed, engineered and built' product. That being, something that doesn't necessarily see the levels of quality of a 'name brand' coilover, even one made in china which is considered superior quality. In this case, the 'chinese' product was significantly inferior to anything i've used in the past.
@@Bbeavis
Got cha.
It's probably going to be a long time before they can build something of high quality and reliability and retain the low costs.
I have a set of S.S. headers I bought awhile ago.
I thought, how bad can they be? $99 for thick flanged shorty headers.
They looked pretty good when I pulled them out of the box. Flanges were like 7/16" thick, welds were nice. Overall they looked good.
By the time I got around to really checking them out. I soon realized they were completely useless.
The ports were so big they breached the outside of the gasket...the outside!!
Flanges so thick you couldn't put bolts through the holes, tubes bent so sharply near the flange they bolts couldn't be put in.
The testing and R&D work is expensive. I'm sure no one ever fitted these to a cylinder head.
They make them look the same.
I guess my point is. They still have my money. There's nothing I can do about it. If word gets out and no one buys them. They just build something else until they can no longer sell them, then on to the next thing.
I think they're trying to keep repeat customers now. Trying to escape the reputation.
I got a set of these for my '96 outback because what was on it when purchased were absolutely shot. They're a little stiff and they won't stay on the car long, but I needed something while I researched which forester setup would give me the most lift. For $300, they got the car back on the road and looking good in the interim.
They are certainly a cheap way to keep a car on the road when times are desperate.
You lost me at the beginning 3:55 when you started and kept going with the name. It’s called advertising ok you don’t like it NEXT. Rest of the video don’t know still watching.
Sorry you didn't have a great experience, none the less I hope you still got a bit of fun out of the video :)
Its terrible advertising.... and the fact that spelling/grammatical error didnt make it passed QC, is worrying.
What's the steering wheel on this car, what size? It looks good.
Not sure, I grabbed it second hand from a friend, its fairly small diameter and has a kind of flat bottom shape to it.
you should lower your standard if BC-R is low end to too -.-
Hey Nozzy thanks for watching! In my opinion, suspension is important, BC's are about as low as I would like to go. Anything less is very likely just not good enough for me...
BEAVIS Motorsport Thank you for your time by replying. I agree on that suspension is VERY important. But in my opinion bc's are decent. Their not top of the line but it's far from the worst. I've had good experiences with bc, however i bet it's more about the type of vehicle that it's made for, as your springs are tiiiiiny with not much travel rate compared to what I've been around with
Fair enough Nozzy, what else out there is a reasonable product for say around $1000 though? There's probably more options in the USA, but here in Australia we have too small of a market.
BEAVIS Motorsport I'm from Norway so i know all about little market, and i base my awnsers around that
tein street basis, xida
I have them in my e46 but the 24 damper adjustments and I don't have any issue. Have them for a year already.
Glad to hear they are working for you Erick, thanks for watching!
Yessss!! Was looking forward to this one man!
Thanks GH! :)
Hahaha sup Jesse!
That clunky sound happened on my NA '96 on Koni shocks with FCM 46 mm bump stops - but they functioned as intended. I just didn't ever understand what was causing the noise.
Old car problems perhaps.
Thanks mate this review helped me choose whether to go cheap or expensive. Legend
Cool, what did you end up deciding on?
Would you recommend going coilovers or just change the shocks? My mustang bounces alot and idk if i should go with coilovers or just upgrade my shocks
That depends on what sort of driving you are doing with your car and your intended budget.
i want to see the follow up review i disagree even great coilovers make noise though.
I'll be sure to post an update with a few months once I've put a few more miles on them. :)
So did the maxpeeding rods hold up?
Thad Beard don’t hold your breath. In another comment of the same age as this one he told someone they were “so bad he had to remove them!”, so who knows.
Only real issues I've had with them are popping sounds and the fact that the right rear blew out the mount 2 times within 4 months of replacing it the first time.
Oh, sounds like you've had some real troubles Patrick, hope your car is ok now!
Where u slammed?
Get radial and thrust bearings
So I just installed this brand with 24 adjustable damper, pretty damn happy with how they perform. WH2 Statesman.
Oh cool I didn't know they did Holdens. What'd they set you back?
I wonder what the diameter of the internals are, and if they can be revalved using more quality parts. For example BC BRs for some cars are not valved correctly and apparently give a crashy, bad quality ride. BC probably just used off the shelf stuff and didn't tune the dampers for the specific springs and the car's weight(they probably did tune them for some cars, and are a good choice for those). However, the BC piston diameter is exactly the same as some Bilstein pistons so they can be rebuilt using Bilstein internals. It takes engineering(you have to choose your own shims), definitely not for everyone, but if done right and tested at a shock dyno, it can be better than öhlins. The BC housing and the top hats are apparently good quality, so it's a good base to build your own shocks. Going by this review, these maXX PEEEEEEEEEEdingrods have a decent outside build quality too, so I wonder if some other manufacturer's pistons match. Maybe you could cut them up(errr, I mean disassemble) for science :D?
A good point Andras. I'm not sure who would have the expertise and time to invest in such an investigation, certainly I don't personally have experience with shock internals... would be curious to see though.
Ive never scrolled so far down on a comment section, this is f**ing gold xD
Have to agree with you there, lots of entertainment :)
I bet these would be a lot less "crashy" if the springs had insulators on the ends. I wonder how hard that would be to add. Nice report.
I'm sure it'd be fairly easy to do something like that if someone was really committed to it.
They are actually pretty good considering how cheap they are.
They are really only for the stance crowd.
So should i buy to dropp my honda civic ?? Is it a smooth ride??? I saw them for 300 dollars at ebay
Hey JM, I really cannot recommend these.