All I can say is that I have never had one come out that easy. They are always “welded” in there, LOL. The cross always breaks off and extraordinary measures are needed.
I've also had the drain pipe drop down when it gets unscrewed forcing me to cut an access hatch below the tub to push the drain pipe up and back into place.
Give this guy a break lordy....so the first pic didnt really relate to the solution....BUT he showed me that there is.... in fact... a drain wrench tool that I had never known existed and how to use it, how to properly place the new rubber seals (between backside of tub and the wall facing me....and more....so he did show us all the solutions and for that I am thankful that he took the time to show laypeople...how the old drain can be removed and replaced.
Electrician pliers some peeps call them Klein's have no give or play like duck bills, needle nose or slip joints, lm plumber never bout dumbbell or stainer tool
In the real world the X is rotted away so you use a internal expansion tool for tub drains readily available after 30 years putty is like concrete heat with hair dryer or heat gun works real good
Best talk on this topic. The rest seemed interested in convincing the viewer how easy this is. Nothing is ever easy unless it is some well documented new build. Thanks!
I tried doing this in New Jersey for a friend about a year ago, ended up happen to change everything because it was 20 something years old. I must’ve gone back-and-forth to Home Depot like 5 times getting more and more plumbing parts. Not only that, it’s New Jersey you take one wrong turn and now you got a pay a toll to get back to the house you’re working on.
Use the kobalt type wrench it grips at 4 points - don't be cheap - it could cost you much more using pliers or any 2 prong tool! Also never forget to change the rubber washer that goes between the bottom of the tub and the drain pipe.
thank you for saying never forget to replace that washer because the whole time I watched this I was thinking "hell I'll reuse that old gasket and short cut this step " lol but now I guess I will replace it
Every comment you made is very valuable. I now might have the courage to change both 30 years old. Also I have the same darn tool that have no idea where it came from. Thank you for sharing
Best trick I’ve seen when the drain vanes break apart is wrap a couple of turns of silver duct tape clockwise around an impact socket that barely fits in the drain and tap the socket into the drain while turning it. Put an impact gun on the socket and let er rip. The duct tape instantly heats up and expands and the impacts screws the drain right out.
Fantastic comment! I have precisely the same problem--my vanes haven't yet broken but they are bending from using the "good tool" shown in the video. I found and bought a tapered tool--almost like a drain-sized EZ Out. I haven't quite gotten up the nerve to use it yet though. :o)
Nothing to be afraid of, it will either break or it won't. 'Shocking' it with a few stiff hammer blows may help it come loose. You can access the pipe through the ceiling below, an adjacent wall, or basement.
As someone who's replaced thousands of drains in the last 26 years, the only reason to replace that black gasket is if it's split or missing. Also, in a pinch, if your drain tool doesn't fit, try two large screw drivers and cross them over each other. It's a very solid hookup and will give you good leverage. Also, it won't bend up your pliers. You suckered me into watching the video because of the spade in the thumbnail pic.
My bathtub 🛁 is from 1958. The cross part on mine rusted out 20 years ago and I would be too afraid 😳😣 to try and remove it. It is a iron tub. I had a plumber 🪠 buddy tell me just to leave it unless I have $3000 and dont mind changing the tub after it breaks. Nope. 😮😅😊No thanks 🙏. Great video. God bless 🙏
The ONLY time to silicone is if it's an acrylic (plastic) tub because the plumber's putty can cause a chemical breakdown in the plastic tub. Use traditional plumber's putty on steel tubs.
No thanks, I've spent hours trying to disassemble plumbing that was glued together with silicone caulk. Too many plumbers act like they will be the last ones to touch some particular piece of plumbing.
How'd that work out for ya. My wife says absolutely h. no for me to even think about such a project. That's only because 35 years of taking stuff apart with good intentions of putting back nice and neat never happens. As more things get older and need repair The more I have taken apart and not put back. Years ago B4 kids and not many projects I did put back but with kids now grown and age of the house and me ocd,very ocd it is very limited I get anything done. Also, I'm not taking a thing with me to heaven and time is out of control as per speed and sooner is coming faster and faster than later, so a lot of times I just think why bother and just not worry about tedious stuff that in the realm of life doesn't even matter in the end.
Easiest drain I’ve ever seen. Wait until you get a drain that’s crimped in with copper pipe that you have to cut out. Or when you have to cut threw the ceiling downstairs and do it from a ladder that’s the best lol.
Good Lord. That sounds like the worst job. You should make a series of videos called ‘Plumbers Nightmare Jobs’. The 5 worst possible repairs a plumber could face in his career.
I had to replace two drain assemblies a year ago. Pliers didn't work and because the "crosshairs" were damaged no extraction tool would grip.I went to harbor freight and picked up a body saw which is what body shops use to cut the sheet metal. It's like a mini sawzall. I used that to carefully cut 2 sides of the metal drain and then using needle nose pliers, pried the two sections out.
The bigger challenge is when the cross in the drain has corroded to the point it just tears out and you are left with nothing to turn. Sometimes you can bend the flange up and get a purchase on it that way, but there is a tool that sets inside the drain and expands to grip it as you turn a hex shaft on the top. Not a cheap tool but saves a lot of frustration.
The thumbnail for this video is somewhat misleading, showing a drill with a spade bit. It implied to me that the video would demonstrate how to remove a stubborn drain with theses tools. Not so! Just a drain that comes off easy! Looks like a sawz-all is what I'll have to resort to. I did learn about the adapter and rubber gasket placement so it wasn't a total waste of time. Just perturbed about the misleading thumbnail ✌️
Don't go sawzall! They make an EZ out just for tub drains, you might have to go to a plumbing store to get it. If you don't want to go that route go to the plumbing aisle of any hardware store and get a mini hacksaw. Sawzalls are for destroying things.
@@HouseDoctorRay On another video, the guy thought the rubber gasket was for the inside of the tub, where the plumbers putty would go and commented on how thick it was. That would have been me. Getting the extractor tomorrow. The kind with threads that bite into the metal. 👍
I used one of those. cross piece tools once and the drain just snapped apart. The cross piles in the drain are very small this metal, corrosion go it. I use one that spreads out the more you turn it the tighter it gets.
It all looks great, but I have big problem with removing old flange/rim - it keep spinning. I have managed to spin it with the tool, it kicked off the old silicon from between the rim and bathtub base, but even tho it's spinning quite easily it doesn't go up at all. I tried to spin and pool with pliers, but that doesn't seem to work either. What am I missing here? Are there kinds with no thread? Is this thread broken or unmatched? Maybe I am doing something wrong here? I also don't have access to under the bath tub as I would need to break the tiles (don't ask me - I bought this place like that..)
It's probably stripped out on the pipe. Try getting a flathead screwdriver under the flange and prying up while turning. You may have to go through the wall on the back side.
@suekotchevar2765 I'm starting to think that's what I need to do. When that sucker is stuck it's stuck! Stripped very bad no drain extractor budge mine. Now I know what videos to loom up that's to you. I'm a new widow & loath inheriting a 5 yr overdue honey do list.
When the insides of the drain flange are rusted out and not even your trusty pliers will help, there is only one tool that'll make the removal of the old flange possible/easy; a reverse thread tub drain extractor that fully grips the interior diameter of the flange.
I have the same screw stopper that you have. Forcefully, pull upwards on the stopper while unscrewing. The friction will cause ther screw to bite enough to get it unscrewed.It might take quite a few turns to completely unscrew.
Lol gotta lovee the comments from the haters. Very informative video, but nothing a skilled person shouldnt know. Although reusing a gasket is never a good idea.
I bought the tool. My tub is about 50 years old. I started turning that wrench, and it started ripping out the insides of the drain. I don’t know what to do now; I might have to use that drill bit like in the thumbnail.
You're probably going to need to replace the P trap. That will require getting access to the bottom of the tub. You can get to it through the wall on the other side or through the ceiling below.
If you don't want crap falling down the drain, crunkle up some newspaper and wedge it down there loosely. When all done, grab it with pliers and pull it back out.
Very good tip. My drain is missing the cross members & stripped. It's like permanent glue wad used. I can't figure out to get the initial stopped outer screw piece to budge with any tool I tried trying to research better solvents to melt the putty or whatever my late gusband 🎉husband used. Then let it sit & reapply several times to keep it moist the add a heat gun to hopefully get it out.
@@chrisharris7649 I know the feeling. Had to replace the ancient but reeeeeally nice kitchen sink faucet because it was the stickshift type and the cartridge was leaking through, and even my plumber that I had over for a different issue said that older than 5yrs and you can forget it, the mfr likely doesn't even make/carry them anymore. So I got a new faucet that I really truly hate. Anyhoo, whatever monkey put the old/original one in, use some kind of permanent glue on the plastic nuts holding the hot/cold "studs", and the separate sprayer. Cumbersome small cabinet area that I had to Houdini myself into just to access the danmed things. Finally gave up, asked why I'm trying to nondestructively get out the old faucet, so just took my sawzall to it and chopped through the threaded parts and the glued-on nuts. Tubular plastic "tool" they sell was crap, bent and deformed with the slightest bit of torque. Only had marginal luck with one of those right-angle wrenches, trying to get 1/4-turn at a time when it'd slip 1/8-turn before it'd grab.
or take a sawsall and notch a scrap of 1 inch gaspipe and use a pipe wrench on it . I used one for years then I made another useing a tee and nipples to gerip and turn
Do they make plastic ones? Mine keep corroding out. Maybe it’s the stuff my wife uses to clean the tub. Not sure but I just replaced it like 2 or 3 years ago
the black rubber gasket...guy at lowes said it goes between the pipe and the tub, homedepot guy said it's used in place of putty ... who to trust? :) i did mine your way but the new drain kindda stick up a bit, and little of water stay in the tub ...
The black rubber definitely goes under the tub. Sometimes the shape of the drain doesn't exactly match the tub and a tiny ring of water will surround it.
If you put the rubber gasket under the tub and the drain is not down all the way, it's because the drain is not tightened down enough. Or you cross threaded it, and it's not in far enough. If you have the gasket on the tub in place of the putty, it definitely will not compress enough to screw down all the way and will definitely hold water around the drain.
Your video made replacing the tub drain look easy. Not so... I managed to remove the old rubber gasket, though it came out in pieces. Now I can't get the new rubber gasket in. In your video it looks like you have space to freely move the gasket around under the tub. I have no free space around the drain. It is very tight. Only by inserting a flat head screwdriver between the tub and drain, and pushing down, can I get any space. I don't want to damage the tub either. After a half hour of trying to push the gasket into place, I cannot get it in. Suggestions welcome! (FYI, this is a 2nd floor bathroom so I have no access from underneath.)
Get a thinner rubber washer and goop it up with PTFE paste. Put the washer around a hammer handle then use the handle to push down on the pipe while sliding the washer in place. Be delicate with the amount of pressure you use and don't be in the tub, do it from outside on the floor.
Hi Ray - I did eventually get the washer in place, thanks to your suggestions. Not without more challenges, though. None of the 3 hardware stores I visited had a thinner washer. So I had to use the washer I had. I also wasn't able to find a pure PTFE paste, only sealants with some PTFE in them. So I used a silicon lubricant instead. Definitely helped. Of my 5 hammers, the handles of three were too big to fit in the drain hole. The fourth fit but the handle was too short to make contact with the trap. The fifth was my rubber mallet which fit and was long enough, but the rubber part blocked access to the drain area. So I ended up using the flat head screwdrivers, carefully. A big difference was getting out of the bathtub and working on the drain from the side, as you advised. Man, plumbing is so much 'fun'!
Glad you got it done. It's surprising how much a tub moves with weight in it. A lot of people fill tubs with water before caulking around the edge to be sure it's at it's lowest point.
My drain is so wierd the top sober ring came off and its really like there in no drain part just straight to the pipe in the basement. How do i fix that can i just try to seal it and hope for the best
How did you removed another thread that it didn’t come first and after at continuation showing without tool you removing that directly, i need solution for that too
Maybe it's for shower pans or something. I should throw it out but better to leave it for my kids to post on the Internet one day, "This was in the bottom of my dad's toolbox, anyone know what it does"?
7:09 LOL It's funny how neither one of them fit and you have to go back to basics. If two drain tools don't fit, and even your go-to groove joint pliers doesn't fit....then they need to just pass a law that these damn drain kits have to come with the tool to screw them in at this point 🤣 This is ridiculous.
Very rare for a drain to not be corroded. Typically this means that the cross hairs break right off when you go to use that drain tool. At which point you’re shit out of luck unless you have a threaded expansion extractor. This tool expands in the drain as you turn counterclockwise.
All I can say is that I have never had one come out that easy. They are always “welded” in there, LOL. The cross always breaks off and extraordinary measures are needed.
I've also had the drain pipe drop down when it gets unscrewed forcing me to cut an access hatch below the tub to push the drain pipe up and back into place.
Yikes!
Less complicated I ever seen being a 35 year tradesmen and engineer. Blessings to you tube
Give this guy a break lordy....so the first pic didnt really relate to the solution....BUT he showed me that there is.... in fact... a drain wrench tool that I had never known existed and how to use it, how to properly place the new rubber seals (between backside of tub and the wall facing me....and more....so he did show us all the solutions and for that I am thankful that he took the time to show laypeople...how the old drain can be removed and replaced.
Thank you.
Electrician pliers some peeps call them Klein's have no give or play like duck bills, needle nose or slip joints, lm plumber never bout dumbbell or stainer tool
Aviation duckbill pliers are nearly as sturdy as the lineman's pliers you speak of but with thinner handles.
@@HouseDoctorRay I didn't know that they made a tool for that. I was going to make one out of PVC fittings with an oscillating tool.
That might work if you use schedule 40 PVC
In the real world the X is rotted away so you use a internal expansion tool for tub drains readily available after 30 years putty is like concrete heat with hair dryer or heat gun works real good
That's what I'm facing. The metal corroded inside and actually broke when I was unscrewing the old stopper. Now I have to replace the entire thing.
Did you get it out? How?
Best talk on this topic. The rest seemed interested in convincing the viewer how easy this is. Nothing is ever easy unless it is some well documented new build. Thanks!
Thanks Raymond
You are one of the rare ones using a towel to protect the tub. Thanks for sharing!
Great video. Yes, the thumbnail was misleading but the info was great.
Janky thumbnail aside, I didn't even ask for this, but I am replacing a tub myself this weekend and the algorithm tosses me this. Thanks!
Google knows all!
EXCELLENT guided AND detailed video 👍One of the best I have seen!!
Best advice ever, don't start this job on a Sunday. This isn't a job for the faint of heart, a lot can go wrong here for the novice.
Yep. Most of the time it's not a problem but it can go from 0-100 real fast. Especially if you're dealing with old metal drains.
I tried doing this in New Jersey for a friend about a year ago, ended up happen to change everything because it was 20 something years old. I must’ve gone back-and-forth to Home Depot like 5 times getting more and more plumbing parts. Not only that, it’s New Jersey you take one wrong turn and now you got a pay a toll to get back to the house you’re working on.
That's why I moved to the other side of the Delaware.
OMG. Nightmare scenario. Thank you small town GA. Depot 2 miles from the house. Screw toll's. I could never ever live in toll troll area's.
Good info i need to do this soon on mine. Regarding the tool to get the top out i used 2 screw drivers crossed on time bit tricky but works
Thank u brother for all ur helpful vids👍🏽
Finally and no fluff. Subscribed
Awesome! Thank you so much.
Pretty good plumbing video compared to others I’ve seen. No BS, just the honest description.
Nice job, good options for tools.
With the tube spanner, I find using a steel rod through it creates the right torque.
Use the kobalt type wrench it grips at 4 points - don't be cheap - it could cost you much more using pliers or any 2 prong tool! Also never forget to change the rubber washer that goes between the bottom of the tub and the drain pipe.
thank you for saying never forget to replace that washer because the whole time I watched this I was thinking "hell I'll reuse that old gasket and short cut this step " lol but now I guess I will replace it
Thanks!
Thank you so much Rick, I really appreciate it.
Every comment you made is very valuable. I now might have the courage to change both 30 years old. Also I have the same darn tool that have no idea where it came from. Thank you for sharing
Best trick I’ve seen when the drain vanes break apart is wrap a couple of turns of silver duct tape clockwise around an impact socket that barely fits in the drain and tap the socket into the drain while turning it. Put an impact gun on the socket and let er rip. The duct tape instantly heats up and expands and the impacts screws the drain right out.
Good tip!
Fantastic comment! I have precisely the same problem--my vanes haven't yet broken but they are bending from using the "good tool" shown in the video. I found and bought a tapered tool--almost like a drain-sized EZ Out. I haven't quite gotten up the nerve to use it yet though. :o)
The worst that could happen is the drain underneath breaks. Plan accordingly.
@@HouseDoctorRay That's what I'm afraid of! I have the ability to remove the tub...I just don't want to!
Nothing to be afraid of, it will either break or it won't. 'Shocking' it with a few stiff hammer blows may help it come loose.
You can access the pipe through the ceiling below, an adjacent wall, or basement.
Gr8 job im doing this about ten times coming up
Really enjoyed the video.
Very clear and informative.
Thank you!
You now have a new subscriber
Thanks maddog, I really appreciate it.
As someone who's replaced thousands of drains in the last 26 years, the only reason to replace that black gasket is if it's split or missing. Also, in a pinch, if your drain tool doesn't fit, try two large screw drivers and cross them over each other. It's a very solid hookup and will give you good leverage. Also, it won't bend up your pliers. You suckered me into watching the video because of the spade in the thumbnail pic.
Suckaaaaaah!😊
@@scarce911 lol
great instruction.goes to show you with the new fixture replacement is to check in advance that the tool is going to work on the new one.
Very true.
Thanks a million !!!!!! I enjoyed it so much I subscribed to your channel. Again, thanks.
Thanks John, I really appreciate it.
My bathtub 🛁 is from 1958. The cross part on mine rusted out 20 years ago and I would be too afraid 😳😣 to try and remove it. It is a iron tub. I had a plumber 🪠 buddy tell me just to leave it unless I have $3000 and dont mind changing the tub after it breaks. Nope. 😮😅😊No thanks 🙏. Great video. God bless 🙏
Epic educational video 👍🙏👏🏿❤️👊🏽🇺🇸thank you
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing this information. 👍
Thanks Matt
Good video. I recommend using silicone instead of plumber's putty because it lasts longer. Plumbers putty tends to dry out and fail over time.
Some sinks and tubs now specify silicone. It's just so messy.
The ONLY time to silicone is if it's an acrylic (plastic) tub because the plumber's putty can cause a chemical breakdown in the plastic tub. Use traditional plumber's putty on steel tubs.
No thanks, I've spent hours trying to disassemble plumbing that was glued together with silicone caulk. Too many plumbers act like they will be the last ones to touch some particular piece of plumbing.
Great video. Sweet now I can take out the drain to repaint my bathtub, and then install a new drain with an included plug. 😀
Pick a nice day, that epoxy paint smells really bad.
How'd that work out for ya. My wife says absolutely h. no for me to even think about such a project.
That's only because 35 years of taking stuff apart with good intentions of putting back nice and neat never happens. As more things get older and need repair The more I have taken apart and not put back.
Years ago B4 kids and not many projects I did put back but with kids now grown and age of the house and me ocd,very ocd it is very limited I get anything done.
Also, I'm not taking a thing with me to heaven and time is out of control as per speed and sooner is coming faster and faster than later, so a lot of times I just think why bother and just not worry about tedious stuff that in the realm of life doesn't even matter in the end.
Easiest drain I’ve ever seen. Wait until you get a drain that’s crimped in with copper pipe that you have to cut out. Or when you have to cut threw the ceiling downstairs and do it from a ladder that’s the best lol.
What about a lead trap in a slab house?
Good Lord. That sounds like the worst job. You should make a series of videos called ‘Plumbers Nightmare Jobs’. The 5 worst possible repairs a plumber could face in his career.
Ok, I think I can do this. THANK YOU 😊
Good luck! Take your time and don't force anything. Trust your instincts.
I had to replace two drain assemblies a year ago. Pliers didn't work and because the "crosshairs" were damaged no extraction tool would grip.I went to harbor freight and picked up a body saw which is what body shops use to cut the sheet metal. It's like a mini sawzall. I used that to carefully cut 2 sides of the metal drain and then using needle nose pliers, pried the two sections out.
The bigger challenge is when the cross in the drain has corroded to the point it just tears out and you are left with nothing to turn. Sometimes you can bend the flange up and get a purchase on it that way, but there is a tool that sets inside the drain and expands to grip it as you turn a hex shaft on the top. Not a cheap tool but saves a lot of frustration.
Thanks for the video
Didn’t know you could do that thanks
Very nice job!
Thanks Rick
7:06
*Chef's kiss*
Magnificent bit of True Maintenance. As an engineer *and* a tech, engineers suck 😂
Good and interesting video. THANKS
Thank you
The thumbnail for this video is somewhat misleading, showing a drill with a spade bit. It implied to me that the video would demonstrate how to remove a stubborn drain with theses tools. Not so! Just a drain that comes off easy! Looks like a sawz-all is what I'll have to resort to. I did learn about the adapter and rubber gasket placement so it wasn't a total waste of time. Just perturbed about the misleading thumbnail ✌️
Don't go sawzall! They make an EZ out just for tub drains, you might have to go to a plumbing store to get it.
If you don't want to go that route go to the plumbing aisle of any hardware store and get a mini hacksaw.
Sawzalls are for destroying things.
@@HouseDoctorRay On another video, the guy thought the rubber gasket was for the inside of the tub, where the plumbers putty would go and commented on how thick it was. That would have been me. Getting the extractor tomorrow. The kind with threads that bite into the metal. 👍
I’ve used a sawzall more times for this than I could count. It is for destroying things. Including tub drains. Lol.
That must have been really difficult for you. I pray that you will overcome this grief.
Good video 😊 thank you 👍
There's another one that you use if the cross bars are missing. It has reverse groves and is tapered to unscrew it kinda like a bolt remover.
Use backward (put the handles down the drain ) Channellocks.
Don't beat up your wood bits
Did you watch the video?
I used one of those. cross piece tools once and the drain just snapped apart. The cross piles in the drain are very small this metal, corrosion go it. I use one that spreads out the more you turn it the tighter it gets.
It all looks great, but I have big problem with removing old flange/rim - it keep spinning. I have managed to spin it with the tool, it kicked off the old silicon from between the rim and bathtub base, but even tho it's spinning quite easily it doesn't go up at all. I tried to spin and pool with pliers, but that doesn't seem to work either. What am I missing here? Are there kinds with no thread? Is this thread broken or unmatched? Maybe I am doing something wrong here? I also don't have access to under the bath tub as I would need to break the tiles (don't ask me - I bought this place like that..)
It's probably stripped out on the pipe.
Try getting a flathead screwdriver under the flange and prying up while turning.
You may have to go through the wall on the back side.
@@HouseDoctorRay Thanks for quick reply, I will try that and let you know
Might have to replace drain shoe hopefully you have access panel
@suekotchevar2765 I'm starting to think that's what I need to do. When that sucker is stuck it's stuck! Stripped very bad no drain extractor budge mine. Now I know what videos to loom up that's to you. I'm a new widow & loath inheriting a 5 yr overdue honey do list.
So your stopper isn't contriolled by the plug switch up by the faucet. Somehow I think that type of drain replacement won't be this simple!
That type the stopper is inside the pipe. The only thing that makes those more difficult is they are usually brass pipe.
@@HouseDoctorRay and the stopper must also be reconnected. Or even fixed too
Nice video.
Really good vid. Thank you.
Yeh…👍👍🌻🍷😂😂 nice work!..give me
Good Advice show the good stuff, Thank You.
Thank you much for the info
You're welcome and thank you for watching.
When the insides of the drain flange are rusted out and not even your trusty pliers will help, there is only one tool that'll make the removal of the old flange possible/easy; a reverse thread tub drain extractor that fully grips the interior diameter of the flange.
All these techniques work great on video, but in the real world, it can be a disaster.
the stopper just screws in. can it easily be removed? mine seems stuck, it wont come out.
Lift up the stopper, there is sometimes a screw you need to loosen to remove them.
I have the same screw stopper that you have. Forcefully, pull upwards on the stopper while unscrewing. The friction will cause ther screw to bite enough to get it unscrewed.It might take quite a few turns to completely unscrew.
Lol gotta lovee the comments from the haters. Very informative video, but nothing a skilled person shouldnt know. Although reusing a gasket is never a good idea.
Good one. Thank you.
Thank you!😊
Great video.
Very nice
I bought the tool. My tub is about 50 years old. I started turning that wrench, and it started ripping out the insides of the drain. I don’t know what to do now; I might have to use that drill bit like in the thumbnail.
You're probably going to need to replace the P trap. That will require getting access to the bottom of the tub.
You can get to it through the wall on the other side or through the ceiling below.
If you don't want crap falling down the drain, crunkle up some newspaper and wedge it down there loosely.
When all done, grab it with pliers and pull it back out.
Good tip Joe.
Very good tip. My drain is missing the cross members & stripped. It's like permanent glue wad used. I can't figure out to get the initial stopped outer screw piece to budge with any tool I tried trying to research better solvents to melt the putty or whatever my late gusband 🎉husband used. Then let it sit & reapply several times to keep it moist the add a heat gun to hopefully get it out.
@@chrisharris7649 I know the feeling. Had to replace the ancient but reeeeeally nice kitchen sink faucet because it was the stickshift type and the cartridge was leaking through, and even my plumber that I had over for a different issue said that older than 5yrs and you can forget it, the mfr likely doesn't even make/carry them anymore. So I got a new faucet that I really truly hate. Anyhoo, whatever monkey put the old/original one in, use some kind of permanent glue on the plastic nuts holding the hot/cold "studs", and the separate sprayer. Cumbersome small cabinet area that I had to Houdini myself into just to access the danmed things. Finally gave up, asked why I'm trying to nondestructively get out the old faucet, so just took my sawzall to it and chopped through the threaded parts and the glued-on nuts.
Tubular plastic "tool" they sell was crap, bent and deformed with the slightest bit of torque. Only had marginal luck with one of those right-angle wrenches, trying to get 1/4-turn at a time when it'd slip 1/8-turn before it'd grab.
or take a sawsall and notch a scrap of 1 inch gaspipe and use a pipe wrench on it . I used one for years then I made another useing a tee and nipples to gerip and turn
Wow, so easy if it's not stuck in the old drain..
Do they make plastic ones? Mine keep corroding out. Maybe it’s the stuff my wife uses to clean the tub. Not sure but I just replaced it like 2 or 3 years ago
Everything is poor quality now. You'll pay a little more but if you go to a plumbing supply house they'll last longer.
I am so glad I found you!!!!
the black rubber gasket...guy at lowes said it goes between the pipe and the tub, homedepot guy said it's used in place of putty ... who to trust? :) i did mine your way but the new drain kindda stick up a bit, and little of water stay in the tub ...
The black rubber definitely goes under the tub. Sometimes the shape of the drain doesn't exactly match the tub and a tiny ring of water will surround it.
If you put the rubber gasket under the tub and the drain is not down all the way, it's because the drain is not tightened down enough. Or you cross threaded it, and it's not in far enough. If you have the gasket on the tub in place of the putty, it definitely will not compress enough to screw down all the way and will definitely hold water around the drain.
Your video made replacing the tub drain look easy. Not so... I managed to remove the old rubber gasket, though it came out in pieces. Now I can't get the new rubber gasket in. In your video it looks like you have space to freely move the gasket around under the tub. I have no free space around the drain. It is very tight. Only by inserting a flat head screwdriver between the tub and drain, and pushing down, can I get any space. I don't want to damage the tub either. After a half hour of trying to push the gasket into place, I cannot get it in. Suggestions welcome! (FYI, this is a 2nd floor bathroom so I have no access from underneath.)
Get a thinner rubber washer and goop it up with PTFE paste.
Put the washer around a hammer handle then use the handle to push down on the pipe while sliding the washer in place.
Be delicate with the amount of pressure you use and don't be in the tub, do it from outside on the floor.
Hi Ray - I did eventually get the washer in place, thanks to your suggestions. Not without more challenges, though. None of the 3 hardware stores I visited had a thinner washer. So I had to use the washer I had. I also wasn't able to find a pure PTFE paste, only sealants with some PTFE in them. So I used a silicon lubricant instead. Definitely helped. Of my 5 hammers, the handles of three were too big to fit in the drain hole. The fourth fit but the handle was too short to make contact with the trap. The fifth was my rubber mallet which fit and was long enough, but the rubber part blocked access to the drain area. So I ended up using the flat head screwdrivers, carefully. A big difference was getting out of the bathtub and working on the drain from the side, as you advised. Man, plumbing is so much 'fun'!
Glad you got it done.
It's surprising how much a tub moves with weight in it. A lot of people fill tubs with water before caulking around the edge to be sure it's at it's lowest point.
You make the front picture of the drain with the spade drill because? Because you are pro?
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My drain is so wierd the top sober ring came off and its really like there in no drain part just straight to the pipe in the basement. How do i fix that can i just try to seal it and hope for the best
What about if it's a metal pipe Connected to the drain
Same technique and procedures, you're just more likely to have problems getting it apart because of corrosion.
How did you removed another thread that it didn’t come first and after at continuation showing without tool you removing that directly, i need solution for that too
Excellent
Thank you
How are you gonna be able to change it again in the future if you use Real-Tuff? Is not like a glue?
No, it's a thick paste that fills in gaps. It doesn't dry and make a permanent bond.
You are the best man ! Thanks !
Very helpful….
Thank you.
Im in a condomon fourth floor mine is siliconed in no way is it comming out without breaking the plastic shoe
You could cut a hole in the wall behind the tub and add an access panel.
As a scrapper, those things are so hard to remove, often I just hammer it out.
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What if the cross is gone in the drain??
There is a link in the video description for a tool called an 'ez out'. That's your best bet.
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you dont put sealant on the rubber gasket sir
I put it on everything.
I used a needle nose pliers for it
Once you try duckbill pliers you'll almost never reach for needle nose.
when I buy a new drain I look for a drain wrench that fits the drain ask for help if you cant find one.
Good tip.
What are the instruments called?
There are links in the video description. Click *...more* under the video.
I’m a handyman by trade… I have one of those crazy tools that you didn’t know where you got it… I’ve yet to have it work.
Maybe it's for shower pans or something. I should throw it out but better to leave it for my kids to post on the Internet one day, "This was in the bottom of my dad's toolbox, anyone know what it does"?
You don't lube gaskets if you know what your doing. Handy Andy.
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What if they cross pieces in the drain are broke away how do u remove it
There is a link in the video description for a drain ez out. It grabs the round part.
@@HouseDoctorRay thank you
7:09 LOL It's funny how neither one of them fit and you have to go back to basics.
If two drain tools don't fit, and even your go-to groove joint pliers doesn't fit....then they need to just pass a law that these damn drain kits have to come with the tool to screw them in at this point 🤣 This is ridiculous.
My problem is the bars on the drain are gone so those tools won’t work.
Check the links in the video description by clicking *...more*.
Click on the one called tub drain EZ out.
There is a specialty tool for that case.
That tool does not always fit
that was helpful. thanks for sharing
Why do you show a paddle bit in the introduction?? Bait?
Just to try and get your attention.
Very rare for a drain to not be corroded. Typically this means that the cross hairs break right off when you go to use that drain tool.
At which point you’re shit out of luck unless you have a threaded expansion extractor. This tool expands in the drain as you turn counterclockwise.
Very confused by the thumbnail image
It was click bait.
I took the bait.
“Now you can take it back out because you forgot to put the adapter in”
If you didn't use a clickbait thumbnail I would've liked and subscribed.
the tool he use to remove the drain is call smart dumb bell...
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Not your screwdriver, but an O-ring pick.
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂when something goes bad 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣if it is so easy it would not go bad
Well i wont be doing this i guess
You can do it!
Súper falso , yo contenta que no tenia que comprar un llave especial
I came here for the new trick. No dice
That's too easy! Try one that has been there for 50 plus years!
The brass ones? Sawzall time!