Let's Compare ( Thunder Blade )
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Video Locations:
Arcade 0:34
ZX Spectrum 3:33
MS Dos 6:01
Amstrad 8:05
Commodore 64 11:04
Sega Master System / Mark III 14:32
PC Engine 17:31
Atari ST 20:15
Amiga 23:43
Sharp X68000 26:27
Genesis / Mega Drive 29:26
Description Source:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunder...
Thunder Blade (サンダーブレード Sandāburēdo?) is an arcade, flight-based, third-person rail shooter originally released for video arcades in 1987. In the game, players control a helicopter to destroy enemy vehicles.
The game was released as standard stand-up arcade cabinet that introduced the use of force feedback, as the joystick vibrates during gameplay. A sit-down unit was also released, replacing the force feedback with a seat that moves in tandem with the joystick.
Versions of the game were later released for the Sega Master System, Amiga, Amstrad CPC, Atari ST, Commodore 64, DOS, MSX, TurboGrafx-16, Sharp X68000 and ZX Spectrum. The Nintendo 3DS remake was released as a 3D Classic in Japan on August 20, 2014, in North America and Europe on May 14, 2015, and in Australia on July 2, 2015.
A follow-up, Super Thunder Blade, was released exclusively for the Sega Mega Drive/Genesis.
GAMEPLAY
The game's plot and setting resembles the 1983 film and 1984 TV series of Blue Thunder. The player controls a helicopter using guns and missiles to destroy enemy tanks, helicopters, etc., to save his home country. Levels are in both a top-down or third-person perspective view. The boss levels are in the top-down view. - เกม
Woah, the C64 port has amazing graphics/speed/music for the hardware.
yeah. and i was also very impressed with the zx spectrum conversion.
I played the C64 version to death as a kid and loved it - it had all the basic elements of the arcade with a roaring soundtrack to boot. A very solid conversion.
It's ridiculous how the Amiga ports of arcade games were often more difficult than the originals.
Sorry about the delays folks. I haven't had a lot of time to dedicate to this channel. Been very VERY busy & work on these videos when I manage to scrape some time together. This one took me 3 months !! 0_0
No worries, look forward to your videos regardless.
Its cool dude, take your time. Besides rushed videos tend to be crap lol.
Gaming History Source When the final product is this good, the delay is definitely not a problem.
its ok Gaming History Source
Gaming History Source
Thanks for taking the time for all the Let's Compare videos you make. I always enjoy them.
The beeper music in the DOS version is pretty impressive! Just that damn "explosion" noise lasts for ages.
X68000 port is the best by far. The PC Engine comes in second here. The Mega Drive port doesn't even have the overhead scenes so I wouldn't exactly say it's "Super".
RyuHayabusa06 Especially since the overhead scenes are surely easier for the hardware to do.
Holy Christ, I'm impressed with what they managed on the Speccy version. All the 8-bit micro versions give it a good stab, though the C64 version probably wins by compromising visuals for speed and smoothness. Shame the Master System one falls apart as soon as it goes 3D.
Though I've got to say, ports like this make me wish we could have bought the X68000 in Europe.
Even if you could have bought it in Europe it would have been 5 (3?) times as expensive as an Amiga or whatever it was (so an Archimedes would have been cheap by comparison) and companies probably would still have found a way to make crap ST ports.
hurrah..... I love these.. great work
Great video! Keep up the good work!
Thunder Blade=Blue Thunder.
Andres Gamer i think thunder blade's design is a rip-off of blue thunder. No wonder why it never got any recent ports / remakes.
well it got an amazing 3DS port a few years ago.
I never understood why the tiertex 16 bit ports had the clouds going the wrong way :) But I remember being incredibly impressed with the Amiga version at the time.
That C64 music tho! As a kid that was my jam!
Thanks for this Gaming History Source, I've only just discovered your channel and am loving it!
Thank You ! :) I'm glad you are enjoying it. :D I also have box art with downloads if you are interested. No ad's on the downloads too.
Finaly, you are back!!!
Never left.. I've been stupidly busy. It took me 3 months to finally finish this project. That is how swamped I've been. :( Wish I could afford to pay a crew. lol
Dat C64 SID music tho!
Guitar Anthony Its saving grace.
@@ChristopherSobieniak
You must be joking, right? This is a particularly rare page in the book of 80's arcade ports to domestic hardware, because each and every 8 bit computer version of this one had its merits and all of them were above average efforts in the end, but gameplay-wise the C64 port was the most playable and technically impressive of the bunch by a long shot. Credit where credit is due.
You can almost hear the capacitors popping during that spectrum port
Aaaargh! My ears! (Pc port)
The ST's not far behind.
C64 is doing an amicable job of it.
SMS is also pretty reasonable given the time it was made. I'd say that the graphics are the best fitting with the system it's on, some of these lean too hard towards the arcade, that the system can't possibly replicate them.
Atari ST was a nightmare, showing what a difference a few fps can make with the Amiga port.
Once again the x6800 blows everything else away!
15:40 The sound when you kill an enemy on the Master System is hilarious. Also when you die.
Not gonna lie, forget what people say about the Genesis version. It basically added in more challenge for me, and the fact that you can get more lives. I can't remember a time where I DIDN'T do it, because man the game was hard as hell.
Unusual product placement on some of these computer ports.
Mega Drive version needed a bit more work before Sega released it. If PC Engine got the overhead scenes in, Sega could have also. I guess it was just rushed for launch. Best computer versions are X68000 and C64 (Chris Butler is amazing).
holy crap that sharp version was arcade perfect
Amiga version starts at 23:44
Man, I feel sorry for the poor Specky :(
I like the effects of the building of ZXSPECTRUM is like scaling. I surprise of the comodore is fluid frame for a computer whiteout scaling hardware i think this is the most working version. the SMS is very ingenious for make a fluid gameplay. The MD could be better in the mega cd or the 32x.
This game looks pretty great for a scaler.
I was always rather impressed by the c64 version and even to this day, I think it's quite an achievement. I also really liked the sms version.
To me only the Sharp X68000 is worth playing besides the Arcade version (and maybe the C64 version as it is ok for the power of that system) , the rest all seem not that well made.
X68000 version is incredible
The Atari st version sounds great for the st!
Amiga and pc engine are pretty smooth.
X68000 is the best, not arcade perfect but excellent! Mega drive is not that bad.
C64 is also pretty good compared to the other 8 bit home computer versions.
X68000 should release a mini console
If arcade version had only the c64 tunes...music is really outstanding
And ST version looks like ZXSpectrum HD remake :D
Thunder Blade I have played it so many times at a local pizza parlor growing up. It was an unique gaming experience for the time. Super Thunder Blade not a big fan of mainly because of the sound. Always thought SEGA could do better. Anyhow a few weeks a go I picked up SEGA 3D Classics Collection for the Nintendo 3DS and it includes Thunder Blade the original arcade version. I do enjoy playing it on my 3DS but a part of me wants to play it the way it was originally intended. Anyhow I enjoyed the video and you do excellent work and keep them coming.
I used to have this on the genesis and it is way to fucking hard I only got to the boss once
X68000 - Best port
PC Engine - Close second
C64 - Good port for the hardware
As far as the Genesis version, Super Thunder Blade, it's mainly a pseudo sequel to the original game, kinda like Space Harrier 2.
This time US.Cock made a decent version for the ZX.
Amiga timecode is wrong :-)
SMS muchly differs from original but it looks cool
WILL THERE EVER BE A HD VERSION? for all platforms?
The SMS version of Thunder Blade looks like their other arcade game: Turbo.
The city in the spectrum and DOS versions seems to be a little poorly designed... I don't think skyscrapers are normally built in the middle of the road!
やっぱアーケード版には厚みがある
The ZX Spectrum version is unplayable shit & beyond but the C64 version is just fairly playable & as always the sound of the magical SID sound chip.The Sega Master System is still very playable.
x68K all the way, that music!
Only mistake is the sound and music from the Sega Master System Thunder Blade was different than in this video. About the game speed i think that the Master System did very great compared to the shame disgrace the Mega Drive did which is strange since MD = 16 bit so stronger than MS = 8 bit . PC version is ok too . The rest are bad , i don't count the Tiger one since it has no valuable comparaison to the rest .
Sad that the Atari ST and Amiga version were just crappy Spectrum/Amstrad CPC upconverts. Just the normally awful product that came from Tiertex and US Gold.
Sharp port was very close
Probably because the game was originally programmed ON the sharp. A LOT of arcade games were actually developed using that computer
Maybe do "Let's Compare Uwol: Quest for Money"?
Anyone think a mode 7 Snes port would have worked well?
I know! Mega cd port (hardware sprite scaling and cd audio). You can do the floor without mode 7 style stuff better but the MCD has it as well.
SMS version has FM sound? Is it JP only?
I remember to have played this on my ZX SPectrum and even at that time it looked and felt shitty.
How bout a Let's Compare (Rampage)?
Timecode for the Amiga version is off. Should be a minute later.
Fixed. Thanks !
The ST version moves so slow compared to the amiga...
The Sega consoles got the worst efforts. Even the Spectrum got a more faithful port of the arcade than the master system and Genesis.
is it sad that my favorite version is genesis's super thunder blade? i like it even more then the arcade version
Bullshit., it sucked. It didn't even have overhead city mode
You're not the only one. I played it all the time when I was 7.
Sharp Arcade Perfect!!!
Amiga very good!!
Genesis not bad!
ben owen
The Genesis/Megadrive version didn't even have overhead city mode. What a fucking waste
This game is a really impressive tech demo but not a lot of fun to actually play...
Ben owen
Yeah, US Gold were probably the biggest hit and miss publishers in their time. Although...Interceptor Micros....
Master System was better then the Mega Drive version, lol
IMO, good ports: 1) Sharp X68000 (the best) 2) PC Engine 3) C64. The others sucks.
Sharp x68000 is the best port between all conversions but very poor respect the arcade.
New video! (Why ASS)
why not ? lol
Woow,the spectrum sound is sooooo shitty
Nik Dk Our UK buds really had it pretty bad.
Christopher Sobieniak haha oh yes :D
Nik Dk Especially when US Gold's involved.
it never fails to disappoint :)
And your fantastic all singing all dancing arcade conversion in 48k is?
Are all the let's compare videos like this one? Comparison usually involves talking this is more like let's show footage :/
If you want talking I suggest that you look at Retrocore. He has a series called battle of the ports & he talks in them. These videos are meant to be a resource for footage if you are looking for a certain type. I don't talk in the video because I want to give the viewers free reign to discuss their ideas, opinions, & memories on the games. My opinions & personal feelings would corrupt the spirit of the videos.
Was there an NES version of the game?
A clone called F-15 City War. But it was a jet.
F15 city war was terrible. i had that game when i was a kid
Nope, since it wss a game developed by SEGA. Like SEGA would port their games to the nes when they had their own consoles? That would be like Sony putting one of their own games on the X-Box or Vice Versa
Scott Breon You’d think so, but Shinobi, Fantasy Zone, Alien Syndrome, and Afterburner all got NES ports, released by Tengen in the US!
well Sharp X68000 version is of course the best and then we have pc engine and c64. ( if we consider limited power c64 version can be easily the best) What is hard to understand is why Amiga or Genesis version Suck that much
Amiga Thunder Blade is (was) remake of the Atari ST version
the only difference is Amiga TB had 32 colours on screen
cartridges were expensive game developers wanted to keep costs down early Sega Genesis/Mega-Drive games such as Super Thunder Blade were put on 4 Mbits megabits
That second version sounded horrible. Smh
The Atari ST has a faster CPU than the Amiga and yet it's ports are always slower. The Amiga doesn't have any special scaling hardware so it shouldn't be any faster. What Amiga did you emulate? Then again, lots of the stuff that needs all the scaling is flat shaded, and the blitter is designed to be able to do that.
wow, the sms version was horrible. even the spectrum made more of an effort.
and wtf megadrive, no overhead city mode?
look at how bad those sprites move in the Spectrum version it clearly made a worse effort