I really like the new website, but would it be possible to update some images? I'm new to Smite and barely recognize bacchus and poseidon. Possible their looks changed ingame? Arachne and vamana also look kinda 'off'? (those last two might be just me and maybe there are others, don't know all the gods yet)
Probably search up another youtuber this guy isn’t that good compared to other youtubers or players when it comes to map awareness, rotations awareness, and just ignoring his teams call outs so don’t really rely on something he says if it’s based on his opinion
I Am Merciless I mean I only clicked because o just came here to check the comments and warn someone about following his opinion on some certain characters not really to look at the tier list
One fun comp around the Odin giving Attack Speed situation: Odin, Hachiman, Fafnir, and add a mage and jungler from your choice, huge attack speed buffs to get Gold Fury at 5 mins
replace hachi with heimdallr. get attack speed boots on heim and have fafnir and odin come for gold at 5 mins which is when you would finish the boots. would do more dmg and would be more fun imo
I don’t know why but I seem to never struggle when playing Freya, despite her weak early game, if you can just barely keep up then she does really well in later game
there is a bug on morrigan right now, switched to chaac in the early game to ult, ult stuck and 0 happened, after ult ws over, visual glitch was stuck on the map
Sort of wish you would tier list based on role. Or explain what roles the god would be good in. Knowing Cama is S+ tier doesnt help if you dont know if that is solo or jungle.
Yes, because if an enemy comes, Apollo can ult into a far away teamfight and make it a 5v4 (since the person who came to defend is too far away from their team at this point to group). All Loki can do is try to 1v1 which leaves your team in a 4v4 or try to stealth away which again leaves your team in a 4v4.
Yeah, Cern's entire kit is built around auto attacks so don't build crit so your auto's don't do more damage. On top of the fact that double life steal paired with his life steal stance in his 1 can completely mitigate Hide of the Nemean and even do well with anti-heal so when you do crit, you life steal even more. It could force someone to get thorns and even upgrade it early.
I like what fineokay has done with Chaac. I don't know if he's done it in the SPL, but in ranked videos he's started t2 trans and a health chalice. Seems ridiculous, but it works surprisingly well if you're good with the god. Chaac is very hard to kill, and also has high scaling for a warrior (180% scaling on the 3, for example). So if you play him well, you can make it through the early game without the early sustain and protections that most people will build, and then you'll have more impact lategame for it. At best, you still manage to get ahead early game and snowball, but with enough damage to really stomp in the midgame and get the rest of your team ahead for the lategame. At worst, you play safe in lane. You don't get behind because you're Chaac and it's easy to play safe, and then have a much better lategame diving potential. With one or two damage items, Chaac can solo a mage or hunter lategame. It works in ranked at least.
The problem is that tier 2 trans makes him kinda squishy and easily loses pressure. Other than that, chacc with damage is okay, other characters can build hybrid better like cucu, or achilles.
@@CorbinLD Like I said, though, Chaac can get away with it. Chaac can play safe better than most gods in solo, so if you do lose pressure, it's not a huge deal. It's better to come out of lane roughly even and have a good lategame than it is to come out ahead but be irrelevant late. Also, against a lot of gods, Chaac can still win lane with a t2 trans start, you just have to be more careful. Chaac has higher scaling than Cu, and more protections/mitigations in his kit that let him get away with less defense. He's definitely a better god to build damage on than Cu.
The Bastet rework may have made her better but it didn't address the primary issue of bastet being an ult bot whos ult isn't really that useful, she just went from a early game ult bot to a late-game ult bot. Firstly her one needs major quality of life changes, her jump is super slow, easily predicted and can be interrupted which still puts the ability on cooldown for some reason, sometimes the damage doesn't go off and her return jump is super slow and if someone just waits for you on the otherside you pretty much dead. Secondly her two has a super long delay on the ability and the tick damage is also super slow giving people the chance to aegis, shell, geb shield or heal to survive the damage. Her 3 is actually her best ability right now since it helps her win exchanges vs gods who would usually destroy the old bastet like thanatos and ullr since you can block the projectile abilities with it and enemies can't heal of her cats, it also allows her to chase down enemies and stop enemies from chasing her thanks to the root and the slow. Her ult is nice but honestly in the lategame without her ult she just feels underwhelming since her damage numbers are really low and she can't really use basic attacks to increase her damage since all of her abilities take so long to cast. adding cleave to her basic attacks would not only make sense but also help her early game clear which is another reason she is kinda shit right now.
This is a LAN tierlist so since she isn't fixed yet she won't be available for LAN and won't have a place on this list. It's safe to say she's still an S-tier character anyways if you're still curious.
I’m confused on why the morrigan is getting put on top I used to main her and loved her she was and is still fun but when it comes to ranked it’s very hard to use her in a group fight she can be countered easy and also focused a lot and as great as her ult is if theirs gods in that certain game that don’t do burst abilities straight of the bat when you ult it’s abit useless especially late game
@@goldennugget4040 thats why u should build crit. You can hit crit only by using your AA not your abilities, and Cern is an AA god. Build double lifesteal (gauntlet+asi), double crit(rage, deathbringer), and executioner for tanks. Then hit them 500-600 aa dmg and heal yourself 250-300 hp for each aa
@@from2x442 because of the protection shred in his kit. this makes him more suited for killing tanky characters because you wont need the prot shred on a squishy character and the other forms of his 1 suck late game, theres almost no reason to use any other stance besides health for healing from camps. hope this helps
@@linx4677 this does not explain why u shouldn't build crit. If u wanna kill tanks then crit help u for dealing +130% dmg to them. And the build which i said gives u 15 + 36% pen (if we add cern 1, 40+36% pen). Even if they have 325 physc def. + Spectral armor. Your crit still deals +80% dmg and 36% of 325 = 117 + 40 flat pen = 157 pen. That means you almost take half of their def and + deals 80% bonus dmg thanks to crit. And u still have over 2.00 attack speed with that build which is enough for taking objectives. I still dont understand why u shouldn't build crit on AA hunter when crit is actually meta
Arachne’s Passive should be that she’s able to climb over jungle walls , I think this would fix her ability to dive in or sneak attack and maybe rework her ult so when you’re upside down she’s also able to climb over walls .. I main her and I agree with you I do find it very difficult to move in on most gods
I miss her old kit. During season 1 and I think atleast 2 she could web through walls. It was glorious. But I imagine I wasn't the only low level player abusing this to mop other shitty players.
I mean, pretty much agree, but you just placed Kali there and say only qvo and cherryo will play her, just like you said mins earlier with Hades divios. I do think Kali is somewhat strong, same for hades, but the point is that you are not really placing Kali in the proper place that she belongs to with that definition tbh
@@sakuraxona kek this is about season 2, DM swore his Aphrodite would beat any Bakasura, CycloneSpin was the best Bakasura and the best solo in the world by a mile, they faced off at super regionals and DM lost so fuckin bad he had as many deaths as there were minutes in the game at some point.
I come from fighting games and i had no idea what the tiers were representing until you explained them. Not because i don't understand fighting game tierlists but because everytime you make a tierlist you need to define what criteria you use to judge a character.
You can do well with any god in pubs. High level ranked and pro smite is when you actually need to care about the god you're picking. So if you're just playing casual, any god is fine.
Corbin Allen why would set be really good at diving Thoth? Set has no way to stop dash and no root immune, all he can do is follow with his 3. All of thoth’s self peel is pretty effective against set, and set would pretty easily get poked out by Thoth
Don't feel guilty you're building the right thing, DM is the one whos got it wrong here, higher dps numbers on the crit build and pros prefer it too. Don't take what he says as the word of God
DM has you keep saying that people don't understand tier lists. I one thing I don't understand is why you're not on smite anymore, please enlighten me.
Love the new site. Looks clean and has a ton of useful quality of life features. Looks very clean too.
Did I say it looks very clean too?
@@HackionSTx ..I knew I messed up somewhere, but I was too lazy to look XD
@@moondar841 it happens hahaha
I guess it is kinda randomly asking but do anyone know of a good site to stream new tv shows online?
@Erik Alfonso flixportal
any reason you still use the old icons for some characters ?
I really like the new website, but would it be possible to update some images? I'm new to Smite and barely recognize bacchus and poseidon. Possible their looks changed ingame? Arachne and vamana also look kinda 'off'? (those last two might be just me and maybe there are others, don't know all the gods yet)
Move Hercules up if you move raijin up because of sheento. PBM Hercules has some of the best Plays in the spl
Tavian Bishop very true PBM might be the best support in the game imo
If possible, can you briefly mention who the counter pick gods beat?
Probably search up another youtuber this guy isn’t that good compared to other youtubers or players when it comes to map awareness, rotations awareness, and just ignoring his teams call outs so don’t really rely on something he says if it’s based on his opinion
I Am Merciless I mean I only clicked because o just came here to check the comments and warn someone about following his opinion on some certain characters not really to look at the tier list
I Am Merciless yea to a extent but it’s just there’s to many clips of him and so I mean yes the tier list might not be the best is what I’m saying
Love the new look!
If you don't build crit on cern what do you build?
How so you build Aphrodite mid? I see people play her solo is that her best role?
Where's the URL for the image?
So the characters left off at the start of the video are Baba Yaga, Heimdal, Horus, Mulan, Olorun, Persephone, Set, and Yemoja, right?
Yes...?
What about hera? She didnt get put in did she?
@@TheTruthTeller99 16:33. B tier, between Fafnir and Izanami.
Why are they left out?
@@tategornall2966 they aren't, watch till the end
Thanks for the tier list.
One fun comp around the Odin giving Attack Speed situation: Odin, Hachiman, Fafnir, and add a mage and jungler from your choice, huge attack speed buffs to get Gold Fury at 5 mins
replace hachi with heimdallr. get attack speed boots on heim and have fafnir and odin come for gold at 5 mins which is when you would finish the boots. would do more dmg and would be more fun imo
@@linx4677 hachi has more dps then heim
Vulcan and awilix. Give the turret Odin buff
just buy Shogun Kusari and Witchblade
Odin can give vulcan turret +35% attack speed , and take gold at 5 min
With his 3?
@@blazer1449 yes
Wtf ... Works on argus ?
@@AnkitSingh-wq2rk works on basically anything
“If you wanna be with a bunch of racists pick Loki” Lmfaoo 😂😂
Poor Loki :(
what happened?
@@tokagerkun It's about ProfessorLoki.
😂😂
Can anyone explain?
I don’t know why but I seem to never struggle when playing Freya, despite her weak early game, if you can just barely keep up then she does really well in later game
Ok I do love the naming convention. This does help my understanding of tier list.
The new site looks great. Maybe add the tier "comp specific"
Like the new website design, very thought out and good execution on it
26:31 I was drinking water at this moment lol
there is a bug on morrigan right now, switched to chaac in the early game to ult, ult stuck and 0 happened, after ult ws over, visual glitch was stuck on the map
morrigan is always buggy lmao
love the content definitely subscribing
I miss the dm tier list videos
Sort of wish you would tier list based on role. Or explain what roles the god would be good in. Knowing Cama is S+ tier doesnt help if you dont know if that is solo or jungle.
What happened to persphone ?
I'm unsure on Daji, but I strongly agree Isis is undervalued currently.
What are they doing to warriors blessings
Did anyone count how many times he said specific?
Why is Persephone banned from the Tournament?
7:37 Dragonforce on the Brain maybe? :P
why is persephone banned?
What game was baba yaga play?
So with apollo split push is always valuable but with Loki it isnt a good idea?
Yes, because if an enemy comes, Apollo can ult into a far away teamfight and make it a 5v4 (since the person who came to defend is too far away from their team at this point to group). All Loki can do is try to 1v1 which leaves your team in a 4v4 or try to stealth away which again leaves your team in a 4v4.
When is the mid invitational
Looks super clean
Yeah, Cern's entire kit is built around auto attacks so don't build crit so your auto's don't do more damage.
On top of the fact that double life steal paired with his life steal stance in his 1 can completely mitigate Hide of the Nemean and even do well with anti-heal so when you do crit, you life steal even more.
It could force someone to get thorns and even upgrade it early.
Big congrats on the update it looks amazing
damnnnnn i dont think we've seen Persephone all this season, makes me a little sad
Why can’t Persephone be pick?
The lettering should be black instead of white with the bright colors hard for me personally to see with vision problems
I appreciate the site face lift
where’s the timestamps
Why is Persephone banned ?
New site looks cleaaan.
I like what fineokay has done with Chaac. I don't know if he's done it in the SPL, but in ranked videos he's started t2 trans and a health chalice. Seems ridiculous, but it works surprisingly well if you're good with the god. Chaac is very hard to kill, and also has high scaling for a warrior (180% scaling on the 3, for example). So if you play him well, you can make it through the early game without the early sustain and protections that most people will build, and then you'll have more impact lategame for it.
At best, you still manage to get ahead early game and snowball, but with enough damage to really stomp in the midgame and get the rest of your team ahead for the lategame. At worst, you play safe in lane. You don't get behind because you're Chaac and it's easy to play safe, and then have a much better lategame diving potential. With one or two damage items, Chaac can solo a mage or hunter lategame. It works in ranked at least.
180% scaling on the 3?
The problem is that tier 2 trans makes him kinda squishy and easily loses pressure. Other than that, chacc with damage is okay, other characters can build hybrid better like cucu, or achilles.
@@CorbinLD you almost never need to build damage with solo lane achilles because you depend on your team to do the damage and you can use the execute
@@anonymousjake Yes. 12 ticks of 15% = 180%.
@@CorbinLD Like I said, though, Chaac can get away with it. Chaac can play safe better than most gods in solo, so if you do lose pressure, it's not a huge deal. It's better to come out of lane roughly even and have a good lategame than it is to come out ahead but be irrelevant late. Also, against a lot of gods, Chaac can still win lane with a t2 trans start, you just have to be more careful.
Chaac has higher scaling than Cu, and more protections/mitigations in his kit that let him get away with less defense. He's definitely a better god to build damage on than Cu.
WAnted to hear u roast baba yaga, but she seems to not be in the pool?
Wheres mulan?
that sanguine being the number one team opinion you said aged really well...
Good tierlist!
The Bastet rework may have made her better but it didn't address the primary issue of bastet being an ult bot whos ult isn't really that useful, she just went from a early game ult bot to a late-game ult bot.
Firstly her one needs major quality of life changes, her jump is super slow, easily predicted and can be interrupted which still puts the ability on cooldown for some reason, sometimes the damage doesn't go off and her return jump is super slow and if someone just waits for you on the otherside you pretty much dead.
Secondly her two has a super long delay on the ability and the tick damage is also super slow giving people the chance to aegis, shell, geb shield or heal to survive the damage.
Her 3 is actually her best ability right now since it helps her win exchanges vs gods who would usually destroy the old bastet like thanatos and ullr since you can block the projectile abilities with it and enemies can't heal of her cats, it also allows her to chase down enemies and stop enemies from chasing her thanks to the root and the slow.
Her ult is nice but honestly in the lategame without her ult she just feels underwhelming since her damage numbers are really low and she can't really use basic attacks to increase her damage since all of her abilities take so long to cast. adding cleave to her basic attacks would not only make sense but also help her early game clear which is another reason she is kinda shit right now.
Why is persephone not ranked? Someone please tell me
This is a LAN tierlist so since she isn't fixed yet she won't be available for LAN and won't have a place on this list. It's safe to say she's still an S-tier character anyways if you're still curious.
Darth Vader wdym she isn’t fixed yet? As in nerfed?
@@s0uth9arkcartman21 She's bugged again
Lol i know persephone has 100% pick/ban rate in my ranked matches, but actually removing her from competitive play?
This video is so good, great advice. Simple to understand yet involves some in-depth explanations
Lol alot of toxity gave him beard now he finally seems like an angry grandpa
Why can't you build crit on cernunuos
It's his opinion. Even pros build crit on cern
I'm an Isis, Daji, Janus & Scylla main, be proud of me
why is persephone banned
Where's heimdallr?, oh nvm
I’m confused on why the morrigan is getting put on top I used to main her and loved her she was and is still fun but when it comes to ranked it’s very hard to use her in a group fight she can be countered easy and also focused a lot and as great as her ult is if theirs gods in that certain game that don’t do burst abilities straight of the bat when you ult it’s abit useless especially late game
Can someone explain why you shouldn't buy crit on cernunos?
His abilitys are auto attack so
@@goldennugget4040 thats why u should build crit. You can hit crit only by using your AA not your abilities, and Cern is an AA god. Build double lifesteal (gauntlet+asi), double crit(rage, deathbringer), and executioner for tanks. Then hit them 500-600 aa dmg and heal yourself 250-300 hp for each aa
@@from2x442 because of the protection shred in his kit. this makes him more suited for killing tanky characters because you wont need the prot shred on a squishy character and the other forms of his 1 suck late game, theres almost no reason to use any other stance besides health for healing from camps. hope this helps
@@linx4677 this does not explain why u shouldn't build crit. If u wanna kill tanks then crit help u for dealing +130% dmg to them. And the build which i said gives u 15 + 36% pen (if we add cern 1, 40+36% pen). Even if they have 325 physc def. + Spectral armor. Your crit still deals +80% dmg and 36% of 325 = 117 + 40 flat pen = 157 pen. That means you almost take half of their def and + deals 80% bonus dmg thanks to crit. And u still have over 2.00 attack speed with that build which is enough for taking objectives. I still dont understand why u shouldn't build crit on AA hunter when crit is actually meta
@@linx4677 u shouldn't build crit when only they have Kuzenbo with Nemean Lion and Thorns. All other times u should build crit and destroy them
Arachne’s Passive should be that she’s able to climb over jungle walls , I think this would fix her ability to dive in or sneak attack and maybe rework her ult so when you’re upside down she’s also able to climb over walls .. I main her and I agree with you I do find it very difficult to move in on most gods
That would be awesome! Give it like a 25 or 30 second cooldown?
Copy talon from league lmao and make her more broken? No thanks
I miss her old kit. During season 1 and I think atleast 2 she could web through walls. It was glorious. But I imagine I wasn't the only low level player abusing this to mop other shitty players.
WHY IS PERSEPHONE BANNED
why is Persephone banned? was there a bug or something or is she just too strong.
Maguilar bugged
@@whiterose8601 What's the bug? I haven't noticed any bugs
*_MrSpanky_* I cant remember sorry
I mean, pretty much agree, but you just placed Kali there and say only qvo and cherryo will play her, just like you said mins earlier with Hades divios. I do think Kali is somewhat strong, same for hades, but the point is that you are not really placing Kali in the proper place that she belongs to with that definition tbh
Watching this after and realizing that nike was pretty much unkillable late game all weekend
feels bad for my team when i get assigned jungler, bastet is the only assassin im comfortable with lol
Tony Yont she isn’t terrible but she isn’t great either it just depends
20:10 who will play her?
Wait...why is Persephone banned?
TacTical ViRuZ she is bugged and unavailable atm
i miss this
Yes thank you, plz those who build crit on cern, listen to this man and change yourself plz. I'm sick of cerns building crit
Its ok i had a Kali build crit in my last game.
Is that weaker than attack speed cern? I don't play him, just curious.
I Apologise Then
Building Cern crit is plain wrong. No words.
Can you explain? Why not just build crit
R.I.P my Persephone
Think tier one name Top ban/pick. Tier 2 High pick.
Where Horus?
Did he just say that people who say all lives matter are racist?
10:40 🤣🤣🤣🤣
People STILL don't read the Legend? For fucks sake.
Although the new tier list looks and functions pretty good, love it.
24:32 uh ok
Aphrodite no counters except Baka right?
no, baka doesnt counter her
lmao try catching aphro as baka when she has sprint ult back off and a stun xD youre not gonna stick to her fam, thats why no counters.
Y’all clearly havnt been around here awhile
@@sakuraxona kek this is about season 2, DM swore his Aphrodite would beat any Bakasura, CycloneSpin was the best Bakasura and the best solo in the world by a mile, they faced off at super regionals and DM lost so fuckin bad he had as many deaths as there were minutes in the game at some point.
Jack Ambrosio he literally said “no counters anymore” implying there were counters but now are not.
Still missing medusa
I come from fighting games and i had no idea what the tiers were representing until you explained them. Not because i don't understand fighting game tierlists but because everytime you make a tierlist you need to define what criteria you use to judge a character.
Site lookin dope
where's weaken
Yea i built crit on cern all the time you gotta be trolling saying that
Ares i lvl my 2 he is op as tank
Fafnir is first pick first ban vs renegades lmao
The Loki part had me dying. Spot on
It's funny as a brand new player, I got to see the 2 gods I was actually doing well with are not considered good lol.
You can do well with any god in pubs. High level ranked and pro smite is when you actually need to care about the god you're picking. So if you're just playing casual, any god is fine.
Isn’t set really good at diving Thoth
Corbin Allen why would set be really good at diving Thoth? Set has no way to stop dash and no root immune, all he can do is follow with his 3. All of thoth’s self peel is pretty effective against set, and set would pretty easily get poked out by Thoth
Good to know.
33:30 wrong
new website looks clean
Where's baba yaga
Yemoja??
Yemoja??
How do people not understand what the letter means lmao
It’s always storming and DM always has battery backups metaphorically speaking lol
You made me feel so guilty when you said dont build crit on CERN lmao
Ian Harris it’s ok but compared to the auto build it actually does less damage at the end game
Don't feel guilty you're building the right thing, DM is the one whos got it wrong here, higher dps numbers on the crit build and pros prefer it too. Don't take what he says as the word of God
@@johnsaji4224 I felt guilty because personally it gave me easy wins lol.
Ian Harris well there is that I suppose
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You know you say kukulkan wrong. Its koo-cull-con. If you ever play him he even says his name when you choose him
Lol nike with the 100 percent win rate at the finals
DM has you keep saying that people don't understand tier lists. I one thing I don't understand is why you're not on smite anymore, please enlighten me.
I WISH I COULD LIKE THIS 100000 TIMES just because of your bastet comment yes please revert . And yes they failed my main miserably
Persephone was banned just because Paul is good with her?
She's been bugged all season.