Once again, hats off to CrashCourse for making an unbiased video, presenting both sides of the argument, on sensitive hot-button topics despite your own personal opinions. Keep making great content!
Hank seems way more non partisan then his brother john i have noticed though, You can still see some of Hanks bias just with the topics he chooses to discuss but its pretty minor.
If I was diagnosed with Dementia or any disease where your memory goes & you have no real sense of what's going on or your previous life, then I would want to die. Having someone care for me isn't fair on them & my own quality of life would be so bad it'd be pointless.
Scotticus25 That's reasonable, and many have expressed the same desire. Speaking of which... *sob* Farewell, Sir Pterry. Your life was too short, and it was tragically cut even shorter than you yourself would have.
But.. what if you would be happy? To you it seems horrible being in that state of losing track of time and losing memories. But dementia patients can still lead happy lives, dealing with more youthful memories. For relatives it usually is the hardest, because they are no longer recognized and do remember things the patient has forgotten. So, in terms of quality of life... the case isnt always as clear. Dementia patients do ultimately lose more motor control in later stages; become increasingly dependant and ultimately die after being stuck in bed for a long time. But, in terms of autonomy... when would you decide to stop your life? You will be confused sometimes, but you dont suffer all the time, as the memories fade. The moment you do start suffering, you wont be able to remember your plans either... To prevent dementia, you would have to die well before reaching the mid stage of the disease... Quality of life vs length of time - where would be the mark? I personally wouldnt end by life, but probably sign a form to opt not to be hooked up on life support for too long. Or perhaps put that decision with my family members; giving them the option to pull the plug. Along with writing my will, well in advance.
I live with Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome. I am only 24 and one of the oldest with this heart condition. The only reason why I have this is because my mother was a heavy drug user. I am very happy living my life, but I know there are young infants with this same condition being kept alive by machines. I am very fortunate to be so strong given the state my heart is in. If I ended up needing machines to stay alive, I would like to peacefully leave my life. To me the quality of my life is doing what I love best. Living on machines would take that all away from me, so I see no reason to live my life as unhappy and suicidal. If I were to ever become pregnant, not only would it kill me, but the fetus would become very sick with all the medications I take. that fetus would most likely die, but if it does live it would have a very sort life. Clearly I support abortion for medical and mental reasons. I support someones choice to pass on with dignity, and parents choice to give their child up due to many complications. As a person who does have to fight for her life every day, I see no point in keeping someone or animal around if they are clearly in pain and suffering.
Austin Emmel My sentiment as well. I have stated my position openly as a supporter of Dignitas and the right of a person to manage the end of life as they desire. Using authority that is not justified to prevent the ending of suffering is unacceptable in a compassionate and humane society. I have also added my name to the register of organ donors in order that some benefit might be given to another person in great need.😐😐😐😐😐😐🏛🇬🇧
I just want to say that I am a philosophy professor at a state university and I routinely use these videos in my class. They are fun, accessible, and incredibly accurate. Excellent job sir.
As a physically disabled man, I don't buy into the premises of this debate. Moralists always have strength enough to bear the misfortunes of others. Defending life at the cost of the pain of others is a horrible thing to do. Implementing that moral mandate collocates you at the pinnacle of human arrogance, sadism, and cruelty. I have a very simple test. If you think a particular life is worth living, you should go and live it _yourself._ If you won't do that, at the very least you should stay away from politics.
@@WhaleManMan ... he's just bitter about life. Most disabled individuals are quite bitter about life, especially if their disability was due to an accident. It also doesn't help that it makes them a great burden to their families too. They also usually don't have sex, at all... @mothman84, I hope it goes better for you. I'm glad you're on the Internet :)
Constantine La You’re making an awful lot of assumptions big guy. How exactly did you come by the information about this guy’s life and what he’s been through? I work for a business that mainly hires blind people and most of them seem pretty content with their lives. I don’t know what kind of disabled people you’ve been around but I think you have a bit of a skewed view on how disable people think.
@Thomas the Train And you are far too polite. That Constantine thing has the gall of countless fundamentalist religious things, who casually mistreat actual human beings who have profound human experiences & feelings, as things. Regardless, you have elevated yourself & all compassionate beings as something more than a thing, which is good. Death & dying & suffering & avoiding suffering, are profound realities of life, at least to reasonable people. I trust that mothman84 will continue asserting him/her-self and trust him/her-self. How dare anyone suggest otherwise!
Ash O We can't use that reasoning for every issue though. The government can't let you decide whether killing a random stranger is right or wrong for yourself, which is why we need laws to establish an agreed morality.
Noahbody Cares yes, give the right to the government, the people who want you to be a slave to society. of course they won't give an individual a choice to leave, they would lose out on more slaves.
Everyone that has had a conversation about abortion with me tries to make it an all or nothing case. Abortion is not a black and white issue, which is why it's such a hard subject to discuss and decide on.
@@chicken2423 hell yeah. I mean as long as I'm not actually murdering anyone against thier wishes and they really do have a disease that's painful enough to beat the joys of life.
Will crash course philosophy be brought back later? I am not exaggerating when I say that this show has changed my life for the better. It's really hard to say goodbye to such an amazing series
I've been fairly critical of some of the philosophy episodes, but I think Hank did an exceptional job here, particularly in pointing out that arguments centering on the mother or the child are quite different, even if they can seem very similar.
I am a college philosophy tutor. I've been meaning to thank you all for this section of Crash Course since its first video. So, before it's too late: Thank you all, so much. I have used these videos to help develop my lessons and as a resource for my students. The presentation of information has been wonderful. You have made philosophy accessible to thousands of people who may have otherwise found it wholly opaque. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!
Thank you so, so much for making this video. It’s tragic when ppl avoid talking about important things because it makes them uncomfortable. If we all talked about these issues more, they wouldn’t BE so uncomfortable, and maybe we’d be in a better position to actually listen to each other with compassion & empathy.
I think this is my favorite episode of this course. I cannot thank you enough for the eagerness to educate without judgement and encouragement to have viewers think for themselves. This is by far the best course on your channel. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Hank you are beautiful. I truly love you with pride and honor. You, as a whole, are an extraordinary being who has touched many's hearts and understands things so well, enough to have the will and passion to teach them. For that, I say thank you and God Bless You.
crash course philosophy has been an amazing journey. I can't express enough gratitude for this series and remorse for it coming to an end. thank you in the most sincere way possible!
This has truly been a phenomenal series. Thank you so much for the care and attention that has gone into each and every episode. You have stirred up curiosity and a sense of wonder/ amazement in many. I'm sad to see it end, but thank you so much to everyone who is involved.
Hard subject, and good video presenting all the arguments. I find that most people just try to see this problem as a 'black or white' issue, yes or no, when in fact it's a very complicated issue that has many shades of gray. Healthy discussion and good information like this is much needed.
Great job, crash course! This is an extremely difficult subject to cover and often does turn into extremely heated arguments. It took a lot of courage to make this video and you covered the subject beautifully.
It's nice when someone presents a problem and different points of view on it without judgement, allowing audience to make their own minds and present reasoning. I also believe that it's quite hard to construct material in such way. And you manage to do it. Thanks for taking time and effort, it's been very interesting and educational series. Hope there's more subjects coming soon after Philosophy series ends. :)
Please don't stop making these. This gives my free periods meaning. Absolutely amazing explanations and unbiased arguments. You give viewers a choice and I love that.
I feel like this episode is an exceptional exemplar of one definition of philosophy: "The contemplation of questions that do not yet have definitive answers." These things are hard to think and talk about, and that makes them all the more important to pursue.
I really like comparing these with The School of Life philosophy videos. I find this site zeroes in more on the philosophy (well as much as you can in 10 min) while the other channel tries to find a life lesson or self-help-iphize everything. Both are a lot of fun and make me want to learn more! Keep it up!
Thank you crashcourse for giving us what school should, and going through topics that would be ignored there! Keep up the good work, we will miss this a great deal.
We the communitiy demand you to carry on with CrashCourse Philosophy for the sake of educating us unbiased on important topics of every-day life.... (just please don't go :( )
It's a shame that such a good project comes to an end. Thanks to the team of Crash Course Philosophy for educating us on such important and vital subjects for our social and personal growth.
The reason people didn't like the hate speech video was because, unlike just about every other video in this series, it didn't go in depth into both sides of the argument. The video was sort of based on the idea that limits to speech can be a good thing, a premise which can be heavily debated.
What if having a baby with severe physical and mental disabilities makes the quality of live for the parents worse? Health care is really expensive and with a child that needs medicine and other equipment to survive, the parents will constantly be in crippling debt due to medical bills.
And then they will say life is priceless....while the living is still living in a society with scarcity, and they are unwilling to spend the entire GDP of a nation to save one ppl. When you ask them about this topic, they will just dismiss you as ridiculous
And that's the reason for many abortions! So if someone has already a born child who became permanently disabled due to an illness or an accident and the parents are in crippling debt due to medical bills, should they be able to kill the child? I would say health care system has to change, as has policy and society, to be less utilitarian and truly value human life. That was the Human Rights Declaration intention. If we really want to be less utilitarian and value human life, of course.
Gotta be the best, most even discussed layout I've ever seen on the topics. Nice work folks. If only the answers came as easily as the questions. Sounds like if we can just sort out the meaning of life, all the others will just fall in line!
I love crash course, every time I have a new chapter in psychology I was look up one of your videos according to what I am studying and it helps me so much!
Acceptance of morality makes me live in a more vital way. That’s just the way it is. I think when you are young you don’t think about it. Now as you get older, you take this on board and your life becomes more valuable!!😅😘❤️
My heart Doesn't hurt whenndiscussing this. It pains me to listen to the excuses others have to prolong suffering. There is no good reason to prolong suffering.
The real psychos are those who force you legally to live this horrible existence when you are in immense pain or when you have a serious condition like MS or Paralysis.
Thank you soooo much to all that help make this show possible. the absolute best i have ever seen. words cant describe how happy i am that i subscribed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, and kudos to CrashCourse as usual. Very good video prodcing arguments in a very unbiased and logical fashion and representing both equally, as well as presenting both as equally valid in their own right. Great job as usual guys. I know this is a real bugger of a topic and you guys totally nailed it. Out of all of the similar videos within this vein I've seen, you guys definitely covered it best. Bravo.
There's still a personal liberty argument to be made about a fetus with a severe disability. It just has to do with the woman's personal liberty, not the fetus's, because choosing to give birth, whether through labor or c-section, is a choice that comes with significant risk to one's life. If one finds out that their child that they desire very much will be born with severe disability, there is still an argument based on personal liberty as to whether or not the mother should be allowed to decide whether the risk of childbirth is worth taking in that instance.
I think by using the personal liberty argument, you are implying that a disabled child is somehow valued as less than and that is construed as discrimination against the disabled. If we are using the high risk of childbirth as reasoning used by a woman, it applies equally in either case of pregnancy. However, a fetus with disability may be a higher risk childbirth (sorry if that is actually what you mean and I didn't catch it)...
@@ShrustiTripathy Good question. I was elaborating on a point made in the video about personal liberty in regards to a woman's right to choose under what circumstances she is willing to risk her own life. Your argument does not address personal liberty, it addresses value of life which is irrelevant to what I was saying. To illustrate that, using the same reasoning your argument can be flipped around by arguing that you are implying that the possibility of survival for a disabled fetus (not child) is more valued than a woman's right to make decisions regarding her own safety. I hope you can see how that makes as little logical sense as your previous comment. Because personal liberty and value of life are two separate arguments. The problem this video clarified is that quite often when discussing issues of life and death these arguments are conflated in exactly this manner, creating an impasse to the discussion.
Five years since I started studying philosophy as a subject, this series have been extremely helpful to me in each and every semester, I enjoy these videos so much, This channel has been helpful in many ways thankyou ❤
Question one: The "baby" our "fetus" is really a human? Question two; if is, he is not capable to decide for himself, the responsibility is from his mother, she can decide for him? why?
I'm making a video about abortion right now. It's basically a call for a rational conversation about an extremely emotional subject. Thank you so much for posting this and giving me the confidence to actually post my video, I really don't know if I would've had the courage to post it if this video hadn't set such a tremendous example. Thank you so much Crash Course, I'm really gonna miss the Philosophy course! Now I'm gonna go finish editing my work, thanks again!
Unfortunately it's very unlikely you'll find a rational conversation in TH-cam comments. Or any that do come up will inevitably devolve into sabre rattling.
I'm going to miss this course. I think it has done so much good in helping so many people learn the value of philosophy. Here's hoping for Crash Course Philosophy 2 sometime...
If that's what you took away from my comment, I doubt I can help you. Life has no objective meaning or purpose, to say otherwise is only hubris. Try this: go to Google and type otherkin into the search bar. Now tell me life has value.
Life has no intrinsic value, but it doesn't mean we can't make something of it. If you don't believe in absolutely anything, in fighting for *something*, then you must have a pretty miserable life, though I doubt it since you're taking the time to come here and post this comment, which means you value your own opinion at the very least.
Economicly speaking, life has value. Einstein, Bill Gates and certain people are so valuable. As long as you can earn money (in other word you fulfilled someone need) then you are valuable. Eventough different for each people.
I just wanna say, the reasoning behind "you're responsible for their suffering as a disabled person", doesn't work unless you think that no baby should be born because as humans we will experience pain regardless of disabilities, therefore you either believe, it is unethical or ethical to have children. Not saying my stance on these things (in this comment at least) just saying it doesn't add up unless you believe making babies is unethical all together
Don't most beings want to live more than they want to avoid pain? Foxes will gnaw off their own limbs that get caught in a trap rather than wait around to be killed by the hunter who placed them. There was that based-on-true-events movie about a guy who went hiking alone (never do that!) in Utah and got his arm trapped under some rocks and had to do something similar to survive. I might think to myself, "I would rather die than have to cut off my own arm", but placed in that situation, I probably would do it, and I think most people would to. The desire to survive in many cases trumps the desire to avoid pain.
There is nothing to debate on these three issues. All three need to be legal and fully accessible. There has never been a tenable argument to oppose any of these. Those who oppose them usually do so in an emotionally-charged state, without actually taking a reasoned, rational, evidence-based approach to thinking about these issues.
The argument isn't so much whether they should be allowed or not, to me it's obvious they should be. The problem is about specifics: where do you draw the line? You'd basically have to evaluate each specific case in detail and even then people will have different opinions about what is "right" or "wrong".
Charles It's not that simple. I am pretty sure they can only give you percentages some times for abnormalities during birth. It's one thing to say your baby WILL be blind deaf and dumb. It is another to say 95%. What if it's a coin flip? While I wouldn't judge you, I could see why people would start to get uncomfortable when all of a sudden it is normal to abort someone just because they are deaf.
Why do you think abortion should be legal and fully accessible? Im genuinely curious. I think taking a life without their consent is immoral because it deprives them of a future of experiences. Simple as that. I don't see why abortion would be an exception to that rule. Some may argue that abortion's ok because a foetus "can't feel pain" or "isn't conscious" or "has no desires", but the same could be said of a sleeping person. A sleeping person isn't conscious and has no desires, and could be killed painlessly. So unless one thinks that its ok to kill a person painlessly in their sleep, I don't see why they should think its ok to kill a foetus (or even a zygote, for that matter).
Saeed Baig Umm, no. That is a strawman. A sleeping person is conscious. If they weren't, they couldn't dream or wake up. Every time you would go to sleep you would terminate a consiousness, therefore taking a life. If you valued life you would have a duty to every future you, which would consist of either not sleeping through a miraculous technology or dying. You would prevent the death of every future "you". Of course it isn't so as the stream of consciousness continues from childhood to death. If you are talking about someone who has experienced brain death (not a coma), it is absolutely justified to end the upkeep of a bag of cells.
People who think that life is "sacred" and we shouldn't intervene, should also deny medical treatment for themselves, since we're also intervening when we increase the lifetime.
An important question to ask is whether the "life ultimately has no inherent meaning and therefore isn't precious" sentiment floating around is dangerous or not. What happens when we stop valuing life? It's such a logical and reasonable yet uncompassionate stance to take. And from what I've seen, nothing good comes from a growing lack of compassion. Any thoughts on this?
Kira Suzuki As with most beliefs, its effect is dependent on how you view things. While it is easy to picture the awful acts that could be (and have been) done without a care for any inherent value of life, that is not the necessary outcome. I would argue the losing the idea of an inherent value for life could be an empowering idea if treated correctly. Much like the effect of existentialism, it encourages people to take control of their own lives and make it worth living, rather than merely accepting pain after pain because they feel they should be happy with their life because it is valuable. So long as we hold the lives of other persons to be as valuable as they choose, there doesn't seem to be any harm in the belief of no inherent value.
It doesn't make any sense to say "life ultimately has no inherent value" and then say "choice and autonomy has inherent value". Life and sentience demonstrably exist. Choice and autonomy are demonstrably a social construct. Why anyone would say that autonomy has value but not survival is beyond me.
Kira Suzuki There is no point. The only reason I don't end it is because the people who love me still care about me. If they were gone I'd end it all and try to donate my organs after I die by calling the police before I hang myself.
I believe that abortion is a personal matter and should be handled at the level of the individual. The economic and emotional repercussions of keeping a child are astronomical. If you have the opportunity to keep a child and drop out of school or abort the child and become a doctor (a job that saves lives) what do you do? You can now provide an upperclass life for your actual children and contribute to society in a way more significant than your loins
@@ASLUHLUHCE That's a different decision, as a newborn does not require a "host" body to live. People need to have the personal liberty to choose what happens with our bodies. Without bodily autonomy, we have no freedom at all.
Kudos for adressing such an emotional topic in such an unbiased way, trying to show arguments from both sides. Also, this video reminded me to make an advance directive...in case my parents or relatives will ever be in the spot that thjey have to decide what becomes of my life if I am not in the state to do so.
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Once again, hats off to CrashCourse for making an unbiased video, presenting both sides of the argument, on sensitive hot-button topics despite your own personal opinions. Keep making great content!
I agree.
KingInfinity Crash Course is phenomenal regarding not showing implicit bias towards either side of an issue; that's what makes it so enjoyable.
Yeah, it's great when it happens, not so great when the writer forgets to not be biased. Looking right at ya, episode about "hate speech"
Hank seems way more non partisan then his brother john i have noticed though, You can still see some of Hanks bias just with the topics he chooses to discuss but its pretty minor.
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My view is no one should be able to dictate what you do with your body. That is against free will, simple as that.
If I was diagnosed with Dementia or any disease where your memory goes & you have no real sense of what's going on or your previous life, then I would want to die. Having someone care for me isn't fair on them & my own quality of life would be so bad it'd be pointless.
Scotticus25 What if you forget to do so?
Scotticus25 That's reasonable, and many have expressed the same desire. Speaking of which...
*sob*
Farewell, Sir Pterry. Your life was too short, and it was tragically cut even shorter than you yourself would have.
But.. what if you would be happy?
To you it seems horrible being in that state of losing track of time and losing memories. But dementia patients can still lead happy lives, dealing with more youthful memories. For relatives it usually is the hardest, because they are no longer recognized and do remember things the patient has forgotten.
So, in terms of quality of life... the case isnt always as clear.
Dementia patients do ultimately lose more motor control in later stages; become increasingly dependant and ultimately die after being stuck in bed for a long time.
But, in terms of autonomy... when would you decide to stop your life? You will be confused sometimes, but you dont suffer all the time, as the memories fade. The moment you do start suffering, you wont be able to remember your plans either...
To prevent dementia, you would have to die well before reaching the mid stage of the disease... Quality of life vs length of time - where would be the mark?
I personally wouldnt end by life, but probably sign a form to opt not to be hooked up on life support for too long. Or perhaps put that decision with my family members; giving them the option to pull the plug. Along with writing my will, well in advance.
***** to me losing my cognitive abilities would be the worst kind of suffering worse than any physical suffering
But you wouldn't remember that you'd want to die if you had Dementia, hence making it a Catch-22 .
I live with Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome. I am only 24 and one of the oldest with this heart condition. The only reason why I have this is because my mother was a heavy drug user. I am very happy living my life, but I know there are young infants with this same condition being kept alive by machines. I am very fortunate to be so strong given the state my heart is in. If I ended up needing machines to stay alive, I would like to peacefully leave my life. To me the quality of my life is doing what I love best. Living on machines would take that all away from me, so I see no reason to live my life as unhappy and suicidal. If I were to ever become pregnant, not only would it kill me, but the fetus would become very sick with all the medications I take. that fetus would most likely die, but if it does live it would have a very sort life.
Clearly I support abortion for medical and mental reasons. I support someones choice to pass on with dignity, and parents choice to give their child up due to many complications.
As a person who does have to fight for her life every day, I see no point in keeping someone or animal around if they are clearly in pain and suffering.
MoonPixie Trust yourself! Best wishes to you & yours, but especially YOU!!!!
I'm all for abortion and even I never heart this argument. That's profound
Thank you so much for your compassion Moon Pixie. I love you.
Fascinating that the very people that moralists want to save from abortion, support abortion.
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I really respect the decision to address this topic, it's important and seldom evaluated.
Austin Emmel My sentiment as well. I have stated my position openly as a supporter of Dignitas and the right of a person to manage the end of life as they desire. Using authority that is not justified to prevent the ending of suffering is unacceptable in a compassionate and humane society. I have also added my name to the register of organ donors in order that some benefit might be given to another person in great need.😐😐😐😐😐😐🏛🇬🇧
Would any of you you be willing to assist in a deeath? Your only job would be to pull the trig, you'd be paid, and wont blow back on you...i
I find it odd that the same people who are anti-abortion on the grounds of "sanctity of life" also tend to be for the death penalty.
Matthew Davis death penalty is for criminals, abortion is for innocent.
Pelon 003 If "sanctity of life" is your mindset, it shouldn't matter. All life is thus sacred: guilt nor innocence changes that.
Pelon 003 Fair enough, actually.
Matthew Davis oh well, you can ignore my comment then
That's not a good argument. I'm more in it for the sake of legit arguments. not saying something you saw on your Facebook wall once.
I just want to say that I am a philosophy professor at a state university and I routinely use these videos in my class. They are fun, accessible, and incredibly accurate. Excellent job sir.
I got in trouble in science for watching a crash course video. My teacher asked me what I was doing and she didn't believe me when I told her.
Rachel G could you tell the whole story, because i dont understand
Carlos Ssenyonjo different time zones probably ;) also, it may have been a different video
Depends on where you live.
Carlos Ssenyonjo, there are more than one timezones on planet Earth
it's 2:30 on the west coast.
This is literally the most neutral, unbiased video I have ever seen.
As a physically disabled man, I don't buy into the premises of this debate. Moralists always have strength enough to bear the misfortunes of others. Defending life at the cost of the pain of others is a horrible thing to do. Implementing that moral mandate collocates you at the pinnacle of human arrogance, sadism, and cruelty. I have a very simple test. If you think a particular life is worth living, you should go and live it _yourself._ If you won't do that, at the very least you should stay away from politics.
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You okay?
@@WhaleManMan ... he's just bitter about life. Most disabled individuals are quite bitter about life, especially if their disability was due to an accident. It also doesn't help that it makes them a great burden to their families too. They also usually don't have sex, at all... @mothman84, I hope it goes better for you. I'm glad you're on the Internet :)
Constantine La You’re making an awful lot of assumptions big guy. How exactly did you come by the information about this guy’s life and what he’s been through? I work for a business that mainly hires blind people and most of them seem pretty content with their lives. I don’t know what kind of disabled people you’ve been around but I think you have a bit of a skewed view on how disable people think.
I think what you want for all disabled people, you only want for yourself. What comes after might not be what you expect mijo
@Thomas the Train And you are far too polite. That Constantine thing has the gall of countless fundamentalist religious things, who casually mistreat actual human beings who have profound human experiences & feelings, as things. Regardless, you have elevated yourself & all compassionate beings as something more than a thing, which is good. Death & dying & suffering & avoiding suffering, are profound realities of life, at least to reasonable people. I trust that mothman84 will continue asserting him/her-self and trust him/her-self. How dare anyone suggest otherwise!
Valid arguments on both sides? Maybe we should let people decide for themselves.
Ash O yes
Ash O We can't use that reasoning for every issue though. The government can't let you decide whether killing a random stranger is right or wrong for yourself, which is why we need laws to establish an agreed morality.
Noahbody Cares Yah but there is consensus on those issues.
but if it affects you and only you you should not be affected by law
Noahbody Cares yes, give the right to the government, the people who want you to be a slave to society. of course they won't give an individual a choice to leave, they would lose out on more slaves.
I'll miss this series...
Didn't like it?
agreed. I wish he could add more videos.
Everyone that has had a conversation about abortion with me tries to make it an all or nothing case. Abortion is not a black and white issue, which is why it's such a hard subject to discuss and decide on.
ShyPoke Agreed!
Yep. That's true. It's should discussed via gradation not absolute and non existent certainties.
Would any of you you be willing to assist in a deeath? Your only job would be to pull the trig, you'd be paid, and wont blow back on you...s
@@chicken2423 hell yeah. I mean as long as I'm not actually murdering anyone against thier wishes and they really do have a disease that's painful enough to beat the joys of life.
@@abhiprakash74999 do you stay in the US and would you be willing to help me?
This has been my favorite Crash Course. Please, for the love of literally everything, make a CC: Philosophy II.
Will crash course philosophy be brought back later? I am not exaggerating when I say that this show has changed my life for the better. It's really hard to say goodbye to such an amazing series
I've been fairly critical of some of the philosophy episodes, but I think Hank did an exceptional job here, particularly in pointing out that arguments centering on the mother or the child are quite different, even if they can seem very similar.
Would any of you you be willing to assist in a deeath? Your only job would be to pull the trig, you'd be paid, and wont blow back on you...plz
I am a college philosophy tutor. I've been meaning to thank you all for this section of Crash Course since its first video. So, before it's too late:
Thank you all, so much. I have used these videos to help develop my lessons and as a resource for my students. The presentation of information has been wonderful. You have made philosophy accessible to thousands of people who may have otherwise found it wholly opaque. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!
You've done an amazing job Hank, and of course, all the team of crashcourse philosophy. Bravo!!
Thank you so, so much for making this video. It’s tragic when ppl avoid talking about important things because it makes them uncomfortable. If we all talked about these issues more, they wouldn’t BE so uncomfortable, and maybe we’d be in a better position to actually listen to each other with compassion & empathy.
I think this is my favorite episode of this course. I cannot thank you enough for the eagerness to educate without judgement and encouragement to have viewers think for themselves. This is by far the best course on your channel. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
There's so many subjects in philosophy, not sure why the series is ending.
Hank you are beautiful. I truly love you with pride and honor. You, as a whole, are an extraordinary being who has touched many's hearts and understands things so well, enough to have the will and passion to teach them. For that, I say thank you and God Bless You.
I love that he talks about these subjects so objectively. It is SOOOO important to the betterment and progress of humanity.
crash course philosophy has been an amazing journey. I can't express enough gratitude for this series and remorse for it coming to an end. thank you in the most sincere way possible!
This has truly been a phenomenal series. Thank you so much for the care and attention that has gone into each and every episode. You have stirred up curiosity and a sense of wonder/ amazement in many. I'm sad to see it end, but thank you so much to everyone who is involved.
Hard subject, and good video presenting all the arguments.
I find that most people just try to see this problem as a 'black or white' issue, yes or no, when in fact it's a very complicated issue that has many shades of gray. Healthy discussion and good information like this is much needed.
The clarity and unbiased nature of this presentation is something to behold.
Thank you Hank and the team for making this one of my favorite series I have ever watched.
Great job, crash course! This is an extremely difficult subject to cover and often does turn into extremely heated arguments. It took a lot of courage to make this video and you covered the subject beautifully.
Wow this was one of the best episodes! Thanks
I love this channel for not running away from the important conversations.
It's nice when someone presents a problem and different points of view on it without judgement, allowing audience to make their own minds and present reasoning. I also believe that it's quite hard to construct material in such way. And you manage to do it.
Thanks for taking time and effort, it's been very interesting and educational series. Hope there's more subjects coming soon after Philosophy series ends. :)
Please come back with another season of this, you've only hit the tip of the iceberg!
Perfect timing we were talking about this in class.
Please don't stop making these. This gives my free periods meaning. Absolutely amazing explanations and unbiased arguments. You give viewers a choice and I love that.
I feel like this episode is an exceptional exemplar of one definition of philosophy: "The contemplation of questions that do not yet have definitive answers." These things are hard to think and talk about, and that makes them all the more important to pursue.
Thank you very much for being so amazing and brilliant and thoughtful and considerate and the source of crash, succinct yet efficient courses :) :) :)
PLEASE DON'T END THIS SERIES! SEASON 2 CRASH COURSE PHILOSOPHY PLZ
I really like comparing these with The School of Life philosophy videos. I find this site zeroes in more on the philosophy (well as much as you can in 10 min) while the other channel tries to find a life lesson or self-help-iphize everything.
Both are a lot of fun and make me want to learn more! Keep it up!
Thank you crashcourse for giving us what school should, and going through topics that would be ignored there! Keep up the good work, we will miss this a great deal.
the hardest lessons usually come at the end of the course!
Hi I love this show so thanks I always learn something so thank you for this plz keep doing what your doing
I will miss this series. It's a wonderful beginners guide and something I recommend to all my students who have an interest in debate and reasoning.
Thinking about cases like these doesn't make my heart hurt or my head spin. They warm my heart and steady my head.
We the communitiy demand you to carry on with CrashCourse Philosophy for the sake of educating us unbiased on important topics of every-day life....
(just please don't go :( )
I'm going to miss this series, easily my favorite crash course.
R3dwa11 Campaign for crash course mathematics next.
R3dwa11 My favourite Crash Course too!
One of the best Crash Course series! Looking forward to the last episode. I'm really gonna miss this series. :(
It's a shame that such a good project comes to an end. Thanks to the team of Crash Course Philosophy for educating us on such important and vital subjects for our social and personal growth.
I came to the comments thinking it would be awful, I was wrong. Proud of you guys!
You NEED to do a 'Part 2' soon after this season wraps up.
NEVER END THIS SERIES Please & Thank you!
I like that you didn't take a side. You only educated on the different arguments for and against these perplexing problems. Well done
Well.. I bet this one wont be controversial
It is kinda ironic that the most controversial episode so far is so because of the video itself, not necessarily the subject matter.
19Szabolcs91 I found the Hate Speech video rather straight forward. Hate Speech harms people, and we shouldn't harm just because we're upset.
FishyForWater Nope not at all...
The reason people didn't like the hate speech video was because, unlike just about every other video in this series, it didn't go in depth into both sides of the argument. The video was sort of based on the idea that limits to speech can be a good thing, a premise which can be heavily debated.
not sure if you know this but when you have obvious conclusions the video doesn't end up with a 60:40 rating. doesn't happen when you say 2+2=4
What if having a baby with severe physical and mental disabilities makes the quality of live for the parents worse? Health care is really expensive and with a child that needs medicine and other equipment to survive, the parents will constantly be in crippling debt due to medical bills.
And then they will say life is priceless....while the living is still living in a society with scarcity, and they are unwilling to spend the entire GDP of a nation to save one ppl. When you ask them about this topic, they will just dismiss you as ridiculous
And that's the reason for many abortions! So if someone has already a born child who became permanently disabled due to an illness or an accident and the parents are in crippling debt due to medical bills, should they be able to kill the child? I would say health care system has to change, as has policy and society, to be less utilitarian and truly value human life. That was the Human Rights Declaration intention. If we really want to be less utilitarian and value human life, of course.
As good an argument for education and free contraception as ever I've seen...
The truth hurts and many people doesn't want to believe in it.
one word ADOPTION a selling of a child money for the parent's child to a better parent with more money and no death
Gotta be the best, most even discussed layout I've ever seen on the topics. Nice work folks. If only the answers came as easily as the questions. Sounds like if we can just sort out the meaning of life, all the others will just fall in line!
I love crash course, every time I have a new chapter in psychology I was look up one of your videos according to what I am studying and it helps me so much!
Acceptance of morality makes me live in a more vital way. That’s just the way it is. I think when you are young you don’t think about it. Now as you get older, you take this on board and your life becomes more valuable!!😅😘❤️
Too sad to see this series end. Unfortunately, soooo many topics still to cover.
I am so sad that this show is ending. It one of my all time favorite TH-cam shows ever.
Thank you for making a safe and open way to learn. I love you guys. Honestly I cannot recommend Crash Course enough.
My heart Doesn't hurt whenndiscussing this. It pains me to listen to the excuses others have to prolong suffering.
There is no good reason to prolong suffering.
The real psychos are those who force you legally to live this horrible existence when you are in immense pain or when you have a serious condition like MS or Paralysis.
Please don't stop this invaluable series.
this was a really evenly distributed and unbiased video. good job, i'll miss this series
heavy subject, good job
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Thank you soooo much to all that help make this show possible. the absolute best i have ever seen. words cant describe how happy i am that i subscribed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, and kudos to CrashCourse as usual. Very good video prodcing arguments in a very unbiased and logical fashion and representing both equally, as well as presenting both as equally valid in their own right. Great job as usual guys. I know this is a real bugger of a topic and you guys totally nailed it. Out of all of the similar videos within this vein I've seen, you guys definitely covered it best. Bravo.
There's still a personal liberty argument to be made about a fetus with a severe disability. It just has to do with the woman's personal liberty, not the fetus's, because choosing to give birth, whether through labor or c-section, is a choice that comes with significant risk to one's life. If one finds out that their child that they desire very much will be born with severe disability, there is still an argument based on personal liberty as to whether or not the mother should be allowed to decide whether the risk of childbirth is worth taking in that instance.
I think by using the personal liberty argument, you are implying that a disabled child is somehow valued as less than and that is construed as discrimination against the disabled. If we are using the high risk of childbirth as reasoning used by a woman, it applies equally in either case of pregnancy. However, a fetus with disability may be a higher risk childbirth (sorry if that is actually what you mean and I didn't catch it)...
@@ShrustiTripathy Good question. I was elaborating on a point made in the video about personal liberty in regards to a woman's right to choose under what circumstances she is willing to risk her own life. Your argument does not address personal liberty, it addresses value of life which is irrelevant to what I was saying. To illustrate that, using the same reasoning your argument can be flipped around by arguing that you are implying that the possibility of survival for a disabled fetus (not child) is more valued than a woman's right to make decisions regarding her own safety.
I hope you can see how that makes as little logical sense as your previous comment. Because personal liberty and value of life are two separate arguments. The problem this video clarified is that quite often when discussing issues of life and death these arguments are conflated in exactly this manner, creating an impasse to the discussion.
this cant be the second to last video :((((( u guys r too amazing
Five years since I started studying philosophy as a subject, this series have been extremely helpful to me in each and every semester, I enjoy these videos so much, This channel has been helpful in many ways thankyou ❤
This episode was considerably more nuanced than the last few. Good work.
"My body my choice!!!" says the woman.
"My body my choice!!!" says the baby.
Grabs popcorn
Sage Seraphim
said no baby ever.
FrennisDaemon It's working.
Sage Seraphim there was legit one comment, about 1 kernal of popcorn lmao
Question one: The "baby" our "fetus" is really a human?
Question two; if is, he is not capable to decide for himself, the responsibility is from his mother, she can decide for him? why?
robert daniel I got one.
I'm making a video about abortion right now. It's basically a call for a rational conversation about an extremely emotional subject. Thank you so much for posting this and giving me the confidence to actually post my video, I really don't know if I would've had the courage to post it if this video hadn't set such a tremendous example. Thank you so much Crash Course, I'm really gonna miss the Philosophy course!
Now I'm gonna go finish editing my work, thanks again!
Unfortunately it's very unlikely you'll find a rational conversation in TH-cam comments. Or any that do come up will inevitably devolve into sabre rattling.
This comment section has exceed my expectations, though.
You only have 1 video on your channel. What happened?
Kudos for a very rational discussion on these charged topics. Thought-provoking and fair to multiple perspectives.
I'm going to miss this course. I think it has done so much good in helping so many people learn the value of philosophy. Here's hoping for Crash Course Philosophy 2 sometime...
>2017
>Still believing life has value
Because an idea is old doesn't mean it's wrong.
If that's what you took away from my comment, I doubt I can help you. Life has no objective meaning or purpose, to say otherwise is only hubris.
Try this: go to Google and type otherkin into the search bar. Now tell me life has value.
Life has no intrinsic value, but it doesn't mean we can't make something of it. If you don't believe in absolutely anything, in fighting for *something*, then you must have a pretty miserable life, though I doubt it since you're taking the time to come here and post this comment, which means you value your own opinion at the very least.
Economicly speaking, life has value. Einstein, Bill Gates and certain people are so valuable.
As long as you can earn money (in other word you fulfilled someone need) then you are valuable. Eventough different for each people.
oh god no not people as economically valuable arguments plz no
Yep - if ya can't think about the toughest topics you aren't thinking deeply enough
Well done Crash Course. Your impartiality is a great credit to your whole team.
Once again, you have explained everything better than any uni lecturer could at my uni! Thank you for being so damn clear and straight to the point!!!
I'm so sad there's only one episode left.
You guys should do a Crash Course Logic
Crash Course Epistemology?
I really like that crash course talks about the most important and controversial subjects in such an intelligent way
Love these episodes- brings back theories I learnt during A-level. Sad that it's ending though
I feel really emotional about the fact he called us "emotional".
That's the most emotional part of this video lol.
I just wanna say, the reasoning behind "you're responsible for their suffering as a disabled person", doesn't work unless you think that no baby should be born because as humans we will experience pain regardless of disabilities, therefore you either believe, it is unethical or ethical to have children. Not saying my stance on these things (in this comment at least) just saying it doesn't add up unless you believe making babies is unethical all together
I'm so hyped for the final episode.
Always helps me with another perspective and a summary for my students. I will be sad to see Crash Course go.
Don't most beings want to live more than they want to avoid pain? Foxes will gnaw off their own limbs that get caught in a trap rather than wait around to be killed by the hunter who placed them. There was that based-on-true-events movie about a guy who went hiking alone (never do that!) in Utah and got his arm trapped under some rocks and had to do something similar to survive.
I might think to myself, "I would rather die than have to cut off my own arm", but placed in that situation, I probably would do it, and I think most people would to. The desire to survive in many cases trumps the desire to avoid pain.
Flibber Nodgets Not the same thing. In those cases, you're not guaranteed a life full of pain even if you have to go through extremely painful events.
You make a valid point. But we could also say that a person who's missing an arm is also living a less-than full life, which is a form of suffering.
There is nothing to debate on these three issues. All three need to be legal and fully accessible. There has never been a tenable argument to oppose any of these. Those who oppose them usually do so in an emotionally-charged state, without actually taking a reasoned, rational, evidence-based approach to thinking about these issues.
The argument isn't so much whether they should be allowed or not, to me it's obvious they should be. The problem is about specifics: where do you draw the line? You'd basically have to evaluate each specific case in detail and even then people will have different opinions about what is "right" or "wrong".
Charles
It's not that simple. I am pretty sure they can only give you percentages some times for abnormalities during birth. It's one thing to say your baby WILL be blind deaf and dumb. It is another to say 95%. What if it's a coin flip? While I wouldn't judge you, I could see why people would start to get uncomfortable when all of a sudden it is normal to abort someone just because they are deaf.
Charles Non voluntary euthanasia is just murder, don't kid yourself.
Why do you think abortion should be legal and fully accessible? Im genuinely curious.
I think taking a life without their consent is immoral because it deprives them of a future of experiences. Simple as that. I don't see why abortion would be an exception to that rule.
Some may argue that abortion's ok because a foetus "can't feel pain" or "isn't conscious" or "has no desires", but the same could be said of a sleeping person. A sleeping person isn't conscious and has no desires, and could be killed painlessly.
So unless one thinks that its ok to kill a person painlessly in their sleep, I don't see why they should think its ok to kill a foetus (or even a zygote, for that matter).
Saeed Baig Umm, no. That is a strawman. A sleeping person is conscious. If they weren't, they couldn't dream or wake up. Every time you would go to sleep you would terminate a consiousness, therefore taking a life. If you valued life you would have a duty to every future you, which would consist of either not sleeping through a miraculous technology or dying. You would prevent the death of every future "you". Of course it isn't so as the stream of consciousness continues from childhood to death.
If you are talking about someone who has experienced brain death (not a coma), it is absolutely justified to end the upkeep of a bag of cells.
Thank you crash course! This is perfect because my senior research paper that I'm writing is about physician assisted dying
Thank you for this show. Its meant so much to me. Every one is very signifigant and adds value to my life.
People who think that life is "sacred" and we shouldn't intervene, should also deny medical treatment for themselves, since we're also intervening when we increase the lifetime.
"but we have to think about them" only because we think deciding for everyone via populist sentiment is somehow ethical.
I will miss Crash Course Philosophy! best series ever. thank you to all people in Crash Course.
I'm glad you really tried to show both sides. It really made me rethink assisted death
An important question to ask is whether the "life ultimately has no inherent meaning and therefore isn't precious" sentiment floating around is dangerous or not. What happens when we stop valuing life? It's such a logical and reasonable yet uncompassionate stance to take. And from what I've seen, nothing good comes from a growing lack of compassion. Any thoughts on this?
Kira Suzuki
As with most beliefs, its effect is dependent on how you view things. While it is easy to picture the awful acts that could be (and have been) done without a care for any inherent value of life, that is not the necessary outcome.
I would argue the losing the idea of an inherent value for life could be an empowering idea if treated correctly. Much like the effect of existentialism, it encourages people to take control of their own lives and make it worth living, rather than merely accepting pain after pain because they feel they should be happy with their life because it is valuable. So long as we hold the lives of other persons to be as valuable as they choose, there doesn't seem to be any harm in the belief of no inherent value.
It doesn't make any sense to say "life ultimately has no inherent value" and then say "choice and autonomy has inherent value". Life and sentience demonstrably exist. Choice and autonomy are demonstrably a social construct. Why anyone would say that autonomy has value but not survival is beyond me.
Kira Suzuki There is no point. The only reason I don't end it is because the people who love me still care about me. If they were gone I'd end it all and try to donate my organs after I die by calling the police before I hang myself.
I believe that abortion is a personal matter and should be handled at the level of the individual. The economic and emotional repercussions of keeping a child are astronomical. If you have the opportunity to keep a child and drop out of school or abort the child and become a doctor (a job that saves lives) what do you do? You can now provide an upperclass life for your actual children and contribute to society in a way more significant than your loins
Nice political compass
Would you agree with killing a newborn for the same reason? If not, why?
@@ASLUHLUHCE That's a different decision, as a newborn does not require a "host" body to live. People need to have the personal liberty to choose what happens with our bodies. Without bodily autonomy, we have no freedom at all.
@@senorpants5604 But there are many other areas of the law where bodily autonomy is limited e.g. drugs
I love this series. Thank you very much!
Kudos for adressing such an emotional topic in such an unbiased way, trying to show arguments from both sides.
Also, this video reminded me to make an advance directive...in case my parents or relatives will ever be in the spot that thjey have to decide what becomes of my life if I am not in the state to do so.