Good. I want to congratulate you on your channel. I am a radio amateur here in Portugal and, much to my regret, I would like to have Rfinder equipment with DMR and analogue, but here in Portugal, having it shipped is very expensive. That's why I'm watching your videos because I'm a lover of Amateur Radio and I've had a license since 2015. Continuation of good videos and 73 since Portugal Lisbon. CT5JCA Bruno Oliveira
Really odd that it is 4 major Android versions behind and last update was 2020. That's horrible from a security perspective. Very cool that it stores setup in the cloud. The coverage is also great.
Maybe more low key alarming than odd. I wouldn't worry much about the Android version if the OS was still supported from a security perspective. Over time, Android updates critical bugs in absolutely everything, including the Bluetooth stack. It's probably mostly fine, but don't take it with you to Defcon or BlackHat or any other security conferences, or it will no longer be your own radio when you come home.
Cloud memory...... Where's there was some younger people around me like yourself All the elmers here are certainly elmers in that sense and hard for me to learn from You're a genuine inspiration
The magic of Cloud Memory. I really like your reviews and this radio/phone is something that I hope to be able to afford when it comes time for me to get a new phone. Love your channel.
Cloud memory. New b1 owner. Having some fun with the capabilities of this radio. I put my primary Sim card in for calls and sms. I had another Sim card that had unlimited data. I like that you can select which Sim card will handle each function. (Sim 1 calls & sms. Sim 2 just data.) Very cool
Cloud memory. Great review on the RFinder very in-depth. It’s a dmr radio I have been after since it’s launch I like the idea of it being able to load any repeater from wherever you go without the need for cps software.
Cloud Memory.....I have the B1+ and I do like the function of the radio. The phone side has been glitchy on verizon where sometimes the phone would not ring or I would not get text messages.
The Android version is not relevant...its just a platform to run the software...if you do not want to use it as your daily cell it still makes a GREAT radio....
@@bobofthedeep I think you meant, “the Android version is not relevant TO ME.” Many of us need a modern OS version, not just because we may want to use it as a phone, but to support some apps that may not run on older OS versions.
Cloud Memory: I need some input so I can make a decision on which digital format to get. Also, I was wondering if a hotspot was necessary for DMR? Every video I've watched gives the impression DMR needs a hotspot to work. What I'm looking for is something small, portable, but can reach out far if I need to. Climbing to a summit to get a signal out isn't a problem for me, so I've kind of been leaning toward the QRP units. I don't have a lot of room because I got too many kids and I tend to move... a lot... Currently in the Fort Hood/Cavazos area and new to HAM (Picked up my GMRS license 2 months ago and my Amateur license last week). I bought a bunch of tidradios (H3s & H8s) for the family to use on GMRS when we go camping, But I'm looking for a good portable base station and a HT. The options I've been kicking around are the Icom 705 to cover HF/VHF/UHF and the ID50a or the RFinder B1 Plus for a HT. The other thought was to get the Xiegu x6100 for HF, the Radioddity DB25-D mini for VHF/UHF & DMR... and I'll probably still get the Icom ID50a (or the Rfinder B1 Plus) for the HT. And to complicate the shit out everything else, I was looking at a Unication G4 so I can eavesdrop on the local LEOs and Feds. You got any advice that could help me make my decision. I have to be somewhat financially responsible too or the wifey is likely to abandon me on a deserted island with all newly acquired radio gear (hence the HF requirement LOL).
No need for the word for me brother I always watch your videos to the end. Buttt because I like you I'll play along. "Cloud Memory". Thanks for all the videos sir I appreciate them so much. If it wasn't for you and Josh at HRCC I would have never got my license. Take care.
Cloud Memory I am very happy with my B1+ and have found the USB-C charging to be quite fast (but I guess it depends upon the USB-C charger wattage). I love the portability, to areas where I rarely go, and working new repeaters, but I also like the simplicity of having a built-in hotspot for those occasions when a repeater isn’t nearby. A versatile and innovative product.
Cloud Memory is a very nice option for any device. Ahh, a member of my club has a original B1, and hes not a tech guy, so its kinda maddening because he's had a hell of a time just keeping it updated. I'm really thinking about getting one of these, just for so I can program on the go from the device itself for local repeaters.
Thanks for the video. I like that you can back this up to the cloud memory as a back up. My question is, have you ever used this to make phone calls? I have so many HTs. But have an itch for another one. And it’s a toss up between this and the ID-52a.
I have no doubt the RFinder has great cloud memory. Wish they were a little cheaper. And yes. I know you get what you pay for but budgets are budgets. Thanks for the video.
While I DO agree that it is reasonable considering some of the flagship phone prices...but those flagships actually have better specs and up to date Android versions too. The only thing they are missing is the radio and the ruggedness. Android 9 is about to be 5 versions behind the current once Android 14 is out.
Cloud memory, great video just heard of that radio, I started using DMR and have enjoyed it, now after seeing the video I believe that this will be easier than using a hotspot in my vehicle. Lastly a none ham question your shirt with a M1A1 on it. Were you a tanker?
Yes, this is a Part 90 radio so it will TX on GMRS frequencies. I am not aware of a video on it, but there are several videos on how to program this radio, overall.
Another informative Video Jason. Me and you are different in that I never take off the screen protector that comes with a radio or device. It is a perfectly made screen savor that protects the screen from scratch. You cannot buy a more perfectly fitted screen savor. Oh, Well. Happy Scratches. Cloud Memory.
that would be nice but not even samsung or apple can sell latest modern OS versions for cheap. Theres a reason LG Mobile went out of business. It would be $2k+.. which is fine for some people I guess, but not for most.
Cloud Storage I was sucked into buying the Anytone at-d878uviiplus for ham and GMRS but I was told by Breidgecom if change it for GMRS they would not stand behind it that sucks. Now I am going buy Wouxun KG-8h that will do both.
Cloud Memory. I really like my B1. Yes, I would like USB Charging, but I purchased the large battery and it works great. Kudos to Bob and his team for such a great product.
Maybe I got a lemon but mine did not work well for me. I really liked the idea of being able to travel and quickly look up local repeaters and instantly load them into the radio. That part worked pretty much flawlessly. What I had problems with was the radio portion itself. I found that when talking on my local repeater, it would often not break the squelch. I could see it was rec'g a signal as the the led would light green but about half the time, no audio unless I turned the squelch off. There were not any squelch settings; either on or off. For that reason alone I took it back to HRO. The phone was terrible. It was supposed to be at least 4G capable. It would never receive 4G, only 3G. I spent the better part of 45 minutes on the phone with an ATT rep that tried to get it to recognize 4G but we never could. Unless something has changed in the radio, I will stick with my conventional HT's and Repeater Book.
Well I been looking at Android powered radios from 2019 I seen your videos about the rfinder from the start . There are three reasons one is the memory how it usees it and how many channels without using the cloud and can it use a new Android OS
So can you download the rfinder "cloud memory" separately in a friendly format like csv? I really like exporting my 578 data in csv format... manipulating what I want on my laptop.. then importing back. So quick and easy to made mods.
Nice tutorial on the cloud memory. should be easy to set up using your video. Point and connect via analogue and digital fantastic cool device. I do think this is a must buy device as i do get annoyed with not having two pairs of hands for my other devices. One question for you. is the android system a little out of date and would it soon become obsolete, the latest Android system is now version 12 and the Rfinder is running os 9. is this soon to be brought inline with the newest latest version.
Interesting devices! Cloud memory is nice, but I'm wondering how well the B1+ integrates with ATAK and the HAMMER plugin. Especially if the performance is good enough to run ATAK with high-resolution maps. If that can be easily integrated, it becomes an off-the-shelf communication and coordination device that could be extremely valuable for professionals, but also for many airsoft players. 73.
Cloud Memory. I thinking about making a purchase of the Rfinder B1 + & Tablet but, I know nothing about these Items except what I saw on your podcast. How can I learn more? KG5RPC 73'S
Man, I would love to get my hands on one of these and load up a newer android GSI. It would be fun (and frustrating) to find out what it takes to run the radio and app.
@@HamRadio2 I hear you, but that's not necessarily true. I've got some chinese phones with uhf radios that came with android 9 and 10, and got the radios working with android 11, 12, and 13 gsi's and the radio software & libraries that the phones came with. But, the RFinder is way out of my price range, so who's to say.
Cloud memory. Do you think this would be a good starter radio if you wanted to explore what the ham world has verses just buying something with just D-Star for example? Or would it be to overwhelming? Can you run this as your mobile in a truck or would the low power be a hassle. Two more Cloud Memory Cloud Memory for the last to questions. Thanks for all you do to edgemicate us.
These RFinder devices are pretty cool. It's nice you can backup your memories to the "Cloud Memory" and then pull them down to another device. Makes programming easy. I'm assuming these are a full 5 watt output? Very cool design and much thinner than I expected too. 73.
Hello Jason, Im curious if you knowhow close is the team at rFinder to having a built in TNC for full APRS? (Cloud memory) while I am more fond of analog radio, this seems well on its way to being the one stop shop for all things VHF/UHF skipping right past the bridgecom systems equipment..
@@HamRadio2 thanks for responding. The logistics are tough, that is a lot of tech to cram into a device the size of a slide phone from the 90’s. On another note have they though about Graphine as an OS? It would complicate the coding for most app systems but provide a google free environment! This work phone is the the only device I use TH-cam on…. 😂 73
Cloud memory who knew they were that expensive (just my opinion) Whats your opinion on weather its good for a beginner like me still researching to buy a shack radio like the IC 7300 or a super mobile one like this ? Pro's and Cons ? cant afford both
IC-7300 is HF, which this device won't do. If you are a Technician, this will be more usable for you. But if you are General or Extra and want to talk on HF, the IC-7300 is best.
Q: will Bob @ RFinder be releasing an update to bring the devices to a more recent version of Android, say 11 or the current 12 version? Also, are these devices 5G or the older 4G that will be shutdown by the carriers in just a few years as all the cellular networks transition to 5G as the primary network interface
4g is 10-15 years, which is not "just a few years". 5g is not relevant from a performance perspective. DMRoIP is the same whether on 3g, 4g or 5g. The latest security patches are coming in an upcoming ROM release. We cannot upgrade to a later Android until the chipset manufacturer provides the kernel sources. It's not really an issue anyway its more of a perception thing. We have radios on Android 5.5 and 6.0.1 that still work perfectly as radios and we continue to enhance their capability if the hardware can handle it .
@@bobofthedeep my concern would be that certain apps need android os 11.0+ to work. Hopefully the chipset maker sends you the kernal to be able to update to a newer os variant.
@@bobofthedeep -- It's a huge issue, both from a security perspective and your business. I'm *aching* to buy it, but I just *cannot* justify the cost unless it's viable as a smartphone, and I know I'm not alone. Your business would probably double overnight if we knew it had a reasonably current security patch.
I am very interested in the RFinder B1+ from watching this video. The interesting part to me is the ability of the device to work as a cellular phone and radio. My wife and I will be transforming into full time RVer's this year and communications capability is very key to us. How well does the RFinder work as a cellular phone. I currently have a Samsung running Android 12 on AT&T cellular. I am thinking about moving to this for cellular as well as FM/DMR. Since it has two SIM slot, I can run two different carriers to insure that I have cellular connection. How well does this work with cellular? Have you have any problems with apps not running due to Android 9? What is your overall experience with the device as a phone? Thanks, 73 K5BRS
Hey Jason. Just saw your video 2 weeks after you posted UT. (Yea I am a little behind) I have the B1+ (a gift about a year ago from my twin brother (also a ham) and the I got so into it because I spend a lot of my time in car I picked up a P7 tablet for $1000. I love the cloud memories. Both are programmed exactly the same in less than 10 minutes. Loved your video. Oh yea...cloud memory..🤣🤣 73. De KJ6FXA
Cloud Memory. What do you find to be the most valuable aspect of using the RFinder for someone who is not a big Digital User? What is the upside instead of using a cell phone and a regular HT.
Cloud Memory I have been wanting an RFinder but not able to get it right now. Maybe later this year. So it has 2 SIM slots so it can replace my Samsung Android phone?
@@HamRadio2 I checked my carrier and discovered my current phone is available for an upgrade. So instead of getting a new phone from the carrier, I may have to bite the bullet and get a B1+.
Cloud Memory - Where is RFinder getting their repeater information? Mainly the DMR repeaters and TG/TS. I am a DMR repeater owner and I see some users not getting the correct TG/TS configuration for their RFinder radios. I do have BM setup with the correct information for what the repeater uses, but I didn't know where RFinder is pulling their data from. Thank you, KD0TGF
They sync with RadioID.net, which is where you get IDs for radios and repeaters. You can update your own repeater info by following this video - th-cam.com/users/livejaOLk4DTqSQ
CLOUD MEMORY Great video Jason, as usual. I watch you from a few different accounts depending on the device i'm currently using, and watched this on another device. However, for ease of typing, I switched over to this laptop account. I've always been interested in the rfinders, but I dont think im ready for the leap yet. I still don't know all theins and outs of oip and dmr stuff yet. However, I do have a question for you. I have been on a quest for about a year right now to find the perfect radio for me right now, with no avail. I currently have about 4 yaesu ht's, about 4 yaesu mobiles, and a kenwood mobile, and had an old icom ht. My favorite radio, and my first radio, is a yaesu ft-270r. It is so easy for me to carry into the woods while hunting, it has been my main ht while storm chasing for over 10 years, and never have to worry about it, and it has taken a beating over the years. However, I can BARELY reach the repeater from the woods on a good day. I have recently discovered a 440 repeater within 3 miles of my hunting, so i purchased an ft 60 dual band, and it serves me well. My favorite feature is the squelch knob instead of adjusting squelch in the menu. However, it is NO WAY near the ruggedness or waterproof capabilities of my ft-270. My question is: Is there a dual band ht, new or used, that is rugged like the ft-270, that has a squelch knob? I really like to stick with the top 3 brands, yaesu, kenwood,, and icom, but if there is a lower quality radio that fits my needs, I'll take those suggestions as well. Any and all feedback will be greatly apprecieated. Thank you in advance. 73's KD9SML CLOUD MEMORY
Can I get an update on this radio? A ham friend ordered one and so far he cannot get any info on its processing {of his order}, from any emails he sent or when he tried to call the number listed on the website, all he got was music on hold! Are they still in business?
I sent your message to Bob. Yes, of course they are still in business and working on some very cool stuff. You can always join his Zoom session, which he welcomes everyone to.
@@HamRadio2 Thanks for the reply. My friend, N7UFK still hasn't heard any word if his order has been processed yet. He got it on a payment plan and the first payment will be taken from his bank account soon. Was his order just the luck of the draw?
Good. I want to congratulate you on your channel. I am a radio amateur here in Portugal and, much to my regret, I would like to have Rfinder equipment with DMR and analogue, but here in Portugal, having it shipped is very expensive. That's why I'm watching your videos because I'm a lover of Amateur Radio and I've had a license since 2015. Continuation of good videos and 73 since Portugal Lisbon. CT5JCA Bruno Oliveira
Really odd that it is 4 major Android versions behind and last update was 2020. That's horrible from a security perspective. Very cool that it stores setup in the cloud. The coverage is also great.
It's not relevant...the Android OS is just to provide a platform. We have devices going back to 5.1.1 that still work...nothing odd about it!
Maybe more low key alarming than odd. I wouldn't worry much about the Android version if the OS was still supported from a security perspective. Over time, Android updates critical bugs in absolutely everything, including the Bluetooth stack. It's probably mostly fine, but don't take it with you to Defcon or BlackHat or any other security conferences, or it will no longer be your own radio when you come home.
@@ScottBlomquist true point, great comment, how would one go by making this phone impenetrable?
It IS relevant. At some point this will not be allowed to access the app store and security is a thing.
Thank you for having the voice of a super effective teacher' with yet super enjoyable to listen to' at the same time! I think your a unicorn?! 🎙️📡
Thanks
Cloud memory...... Where's there was some younger people around me like yourself All the elmers here are certainly elmers in that sense and hard for me to learn from You're a genuine inspiration
So far I am loving this. A cell phone and radio all in one........shut up and take my money...lol.......cloud storage is the word you are looking for
New Ham here... Just watching your videos to learn... This phone is very interesting.. cloud memory.
The magic of Cloud Memory. I really like your reviews and this radio/phone is something that I hope to be able to afford when it comes time for me to get a new phone. Love your channel.
It just keeps getting better! Cloud Memory
Cloud memory. New b1 owner. Having some fun with the capabilities of this radio. I put my primary Sim card in for calls and sms. I had another Sim card that had unlimited data. I like that you can select which Sim card will handle each function. (Sim 1 calls & sms. Sim 2 just data.) Very cool
Thanks for sharing
Danke!
Cloud memory.
Great review on the RFinder very in-depth. It’s a dmr radio I have been after since it’s launch I like the idea of it being able to load any repeater from wherever you go without the need for cps software.
Got one arriving today, I can't wait to get it up and running!
Cloud Memory.
Tnx for the thorough introduction/ review.
Cloud memory. Good video on the RFinder. I love mine and it's constantly being updated.
Thanks
Cloud Memory
Really enjoying mine so far. Enjoyed your video.
Good to hear!
Cloud Memory Great radio i have the original RFinder and the team and Bob area always there for you! thanks for a great video.
Cool, thanks
Cloud Memory.....I have the B1+ and I do like the function of the radio. The phone side has been glitchy on verizon where sometimes the phone would not ring or I would not get text messages.
This is the radio I’ve always wanted. Android v9 is a non-starter for me, though. I wish every radio had the cloud save feature.
Thanks for watching
The Android version is not relevant...its just a platform to run the software...if you do not want to use it as your daily cell it still makes a GREAT radio....
@@bobofthedeep I think you meant, “the Android version is not relevant TO ME.” Many of us need a modern OS version, not just because we may want to use it as a phone, but to support some apps that may not run on older OS versions.
cloud memory, hope you had a great New Year Jason, to you & your family!
Same to you!
Cloud Memory. Keep doing great work, Jason.
Thanks, will do!
I enjoyed your video. I liked the ability to backup to the cloud memory.
Glad you liked it!
yeah want that thing to run Dstar and Fusion as well as DMR
Cloud memory..... great video, Jason. Love to get one to try here in Canada.
Thanks for watching!
Cloud Memory:
I need some input so I can make a decision on which digital format to get. Also, I was wondering if a hotspot was necessary for DMR? Every video I've watched gives the impression DMR needs a hotspot to work. What I'm looking for is something small, portable, but can reach out far if I need to. Climbing to a summit to get a signal out isn't a problem for me, so I've kind of been leaning toward the QRP units. I don't have a lot of room because I got too many kids and I tend to move... a lot... Currently in the Fort Hood/Cavazos area and new to HAM (Picked up my GMRS license 2 months ago and my Amateur license last week). I bought a bunch of tidradios (H3s & H8s) for the family to use on GMRS when we go camping, But I'm looking for a good portable base station and a HT.
The options I've been kicking around are the Icom 705 to cover HF/VHF/UHF and the ID50a or the RFinder B1 Plus for a HT. The other thought was to get the Xiegu x6100 for HF, the Radioddity DB25-D mini for VHF/UHF & DMR... and I'll probably still get the Icom ID50a (or the Rfinder B1 Plus) for the HT. And to complicate the shit out everything else, I was looking at a Unication G4 so I can eavesdrop on the local LEOs and Feds. You got any advice that could help me make my decision. I have to be somewhat financially responsible too or the wifey is likely to abandon me on a deserted island with all newly acquired radio gear (hence the HF requirement LOL).
No need for the word for me brother I always watch your videos to the end. Buttt because I like you I'll play along. "Cloud Memory". Thanks for all the videos sir I appreciate them so much. If it wasn't for you and Josh at HRCC I would have never got my license. Take care.
Thanks!
Cloud Memory
I am very happy with my B1+ and have found the USB-C charging to be quite fast (but I guess it depends upon the USB-C charger wattage). I love the portability, to areas where I rarely go, and working new repeaters, but I also like the simplicity of having a built-in hotspot for those occasions when a repeater isn’t nearby. A versatile and innovative product.
Agreed on the USB-C charging, it is quite fast
Cloud Memory is a very nice option for any device. Ahh, a member of my club has a original B1, and hes not a tech guy, so its kinda maddening because he's had a hell of a time just keeping it updated. I'm really thinking about getting one of these, just for so I can program on the go from the device itself for local repeaters.
I like that use case, being able to find repeaters when you are on the road.
Thanks for the video. I like that you can back this up to the cloud memory as a back up.
My question is, have you ever used this to make phone calls? I have so many HTs. But have an itch for another one. And it’s a toss up between this and the ID-52a.
Yes, absolutely. It'll do everything that a normal Smart Phone does
Jason, you sold me on the Flex 6400. Now it looks like the RFinder will be my next purchase.
Cool
Very nice. Cloud memory
Very cool. I wish I could play with it and ask some more questions before buying one. Interesting device non the less 👍🏻
I have no doubt the RFinder has great cloud memory. Wish they were a little cheaper. And yes. I know you get what you pay for but budgets are budgets. Thanks for the video.
Understood. But they are evenly priced with other Smartphones that you buy out-right with no contract (all of them are too high, imo)
While I DO agree that it is reasonable considering some of the flagship phone prices...but those flagships actually have better specs and up to date Android versions too. The only thing they are missing is the radio and the ruggedness.
Android 9 is about to be 5 versions behind the current once Android 14 is out.
Cloud memory, great video just heard of that radio, I started using DMR and have enjoyed it, now after seeing the video I believe that this will be easier than using a hotspot in my vehicle. Lastly a none ham question your shirt with a M1A1 on it. Were you a tanker?
No I wasn't
Cloud Memory - Thank you for the amazing videos
Our pleasure!
Been wanting one of these for a long while.
They're coming in in batches
So who should I get a a carrier mint ? Boost? Google fi?
Cloud memory…Love by B1+ and My P7 tablet
can this be used on GMRS and if so is there a video on it on how to set it up?
Yes, this is a Part 90 radio so it will TX on GMRS frequencies. I am not aware of a video on it, but there are several videos on how to program this radio, overall.
@@HamRadio2 thats what I thought but for some reason I can not hit my repeater in my area (2 of them) so I must be doing something wrong.
73 from Portugal Lisbon.
Huge amount of hardware and software development in that product. The audience isn't large... I don't know how they do it.
Another informative Video Jason. Me and you are different in that I never take off the screen protector that comes with a radio or device. It is a perfectly made screen savor that protects the screen from scratch. You cannot buy a more perfectly fitted screen savor. Oh, Well. Happy Scratches. Cloud Memory.
It isn't a screen protector in the true sense of the word. It's just part of the packaging, hence the big peel off tap.
Needs a modern android version and regular security updates, also 5G
that would be nice but not even samsung or apple can sell latest modern OS versions for cheap. Theres a reason LG Mobile went out of business. It would be $2k+.. which is fine for some people I guess, but not for most.
Cloud Storage I was sucked into buying the Anytone at-d878uviiplus for ham and GMRS but I was told by Breidgecom if change it for GMRS they would not stand behind it that sucks. Now I am going buy Wouxun KG-8h that will do both.
The KG-8h won't do both.
Most radios won't do both unless they are Part 90
Or just get an RFinder!
Cloud memory is the way to manage your memories!
great video Jason. Wish i hadn't sold my RFinder B1 love the cloud memory feature
Thanks Steve!
Cloud Memory. I really like my B1. Yes, I would like USB Charging, but I purchased the large battery and it works great. Kudos to Bob and his team for such a great product.
Thanks for sharing
I'd like to learn more about the Pro version you mentioned. (Cloud Memory)
I don't have much info on that app. Ask in the FB group
Maybe I got a lemon but mine did not work well for me. I really liked the idea of being able to travel and quickly look up local repeaters and instantly load them into the radio. That part worked pretty much flawlessly. What I had problems with was the radio portion itself. I found that when talking on my local repeater, it would often not break the squelch. I could see it was rec'g a signal as the the led would light green but about half the time, no audio unless I turned the squelch off. There were not any squelch settings; either on or off. For that reason alone I took it back to HRO. The phone was terrible. It was supposed to be at least 4G capable. It would never receive 4G, only 3G. I spent the better part of 45 minutes on the phone with an ATT rep that tried to get it to recognize 4G but we never could. Unless something has changed in the radio, I will stick with my conventional HT's and Repeater Book.
Cloud Memory. I would consider purchasing only a de-googled version.
Cloud memory. Thinking about getting one:
Well I been looking at Android powered radios from 2019 I seen your videos about the rfinder from the start . There are three reasons one is the memory how it usees it and how many channels without using the cloud and can it use a new Android OS
So can you download the rfinder "cloud memory" separately in a friendly format like csv? I really like exporting my 578 data in csv format... manipulating what I want on my laptop.. then importing back. So quick and easy to made mods.
Not that I know of...but maybe from his website. Good question. Ask them in the FB group...
Interesting radio. What is the average battery life on a fully charged battery? Tried to find it on their site but could not find it.
The radio on, about 7-8 hours. Without the radio on, 1.5-2 days
So bought four antennas boost mobile now I need a new screen protector any ideas
does he do alternate versions of android like CalyxOS and can they access the cloud memory?
can you put RC forbes on there?
Nice tutorial on the cloud memory. should be easy to set up using your video. Point and connect via analogue and digital fantastic cool device. I do think this is a must buy device as i do get annoyed with not having two pairs of hands for my other devices. One question for you. is the android system a little out of date and would it soon become obsolete, the latest Android system is now version 12 and the Rfinder is running os 9. is this soon to be brought inline with the newest latest version.
I love my B1 plus. I am not using a hot spot, do I still need to enter a PW to login?
The password only applies to DMRoip.
If you use rfinder as a phone do you still need a hotspot for dmr can you use the phone for dmr
Cloud Memory! Man now I have to have one! 73
I pulled the trigger, had an rfinder before it was old and a EU version.
Interesting devices! Cloud memory is nice, but I'm wondering how well the B1+ integrates with ATAK and the HAMMER plugin. Especially if the performance is good enough to run ATAK with high-resolution maps. If that can be easily integrated, it becomes an off-the-shelf communication and coordination device that could be extremely valuable for professionals, but also for many airsoft players. 73.
Cloud Memory. I thinking about making a purchase of the Rfinder B1 + & Tablet but, I know nothing about these Items except what I saw on your podcast. How can I learn more? KG5RPC 73'S
Cloud Memory! I think I might just have to put one of them on my list. How is the performance using the analog radio?
I have very good luck with it
I just somehow learned about this radio/device.. looking at their website... no 5g yet, not even for the M6, which is not yet available!?
The M6 is out but they sold out very quickly. He had to put a hold on new sales until they could shrink the backorders.
@@HamRadio2 noted. Their website just says taking preorders.. tnx.
@@727jetjumper He was and I think he got so many, that he paused it. I will double-check though, thanks for the info
Cloud memory .
Nice device tempted, but doubt i would use one
Man, I would love to get my hands on one of these and load up a newer android GSI. It would be fun (and frustrating) to find out what it takes to run the radio and app.
If the radio would work with a newer version of Android, it would already be loaded.
@@HamRadio2 I hear you, but that's not necessarily true. I've got some chinese phones with uhf radios that came with android 9 and 10, and got the radios working with android 11, 12, and 13 gsi's and the radio software & libraries that the phones came with. But, the RFinder is way out of my price range, so who's to say.
Cloud memory
Do you happen to know if there are by some weird off chance that there are used ones for sale and where I might find them if they are.
Yes he has some of the Classic models for sale that are factory refurbs. You can also find used ones being sold in their FB group.
Cloud memory. Do you think this would be a good starter radio if you wanted to explore what the ham world has verses just buying something with just D-Star for example? Or would it be to overwhelming? Can you run this as your mobile in a truck or would the low power be a hassle. Two more Cloud Memory Cloud Memory for the last to questions. Thanks for all you do to edgemicate us.
These RFinder devices are pretty cool. It's nice you can backup your memories to the "Cloud Memory" and then pull them down to another device. Makes programming easy. I'm assuming these are a full 5 watt output? Very cool design and much thinner than I expected too. 73.
Mine actually does a little more than 5w
Hello Jason, Im curious if you knowhow close is the team at rFinder to having a built in TNC for full APRS? (Cloud memory) while I am more fond of analog radio, this seems well on its way to being the one stop shop for all things VHF/UHF skipping right past the bridgecom systems equipment..
I know they have been working on analog APRS but I don't know how close they are
@@HamRadio2 thanks for responding. The logistics are tough, that is a lot of tech to cram into a device the size of a slide phone from the 90’s.
On another note have they though about Graphine as an OS? It would complicate the coding for most app systems but provide a google free environment! This work phone is the the only device I use TH-cam on…. 😂
73
I've not heard of that OS but I will check
So how did you get to the screen at time 4.52 - you need to slow down if this is supposed to be an instructional video :^)
Cloud Memory. Now get a RFinder wallpaper on the B1's I don't make them so they don't get used 😜
Cloud memory who knew they were that expensive (just my opinion) Whats your opinion on weather its good for a beginner like me still researching to buy a shack radio like the IC 7300 or a super mobile one like this ? Pro's and Cons ? cant afford both
IC-7300 is HF, which this device won't do. If you are a Technician, this will be more usable for you. But if you are General or Extra and want to talk on HF, the IC-7300 is best.
my OCD kicking in while you use the tip of your pen as a pointer!!! There are proper stylus pens for this.
So?
Q: will Bob @ RFinder be releasing an update to bring the devices to a more recent version of Android, say 11 or the current 12 version?
Also, are these devices 5G or the older 4G that will be shutdown by the carriers in just a few years as all the cellular networks transition to 5G as the primary network interface
4g is 10-15 years, which is not "just a few years". 5g is not relevant from a performance perspective. DMRoIP is the same whether on 3g, 4g or 5g. The latest security patches are coming in an upcoming ROM release. We cannot upgrade to a later Android until the chipset manufacturer provides the kernel sources. It's not really an issue anyway its more of a perception thing. We have radios on Android 5.5 and 6.0.1 that still work perfectly as radios and we continue to enhance their capability if the hardware can handle it .
@@bobofthedeep my concern would be that certain apps need android os 11.0+ to work. Hopefully the chipset maker sends you the kernal to be able to update to a newer os variant.
@@bobofthedeep -- It's a huge issue, both from a security perspective and your business. I'm *aching* to buy it, but I just *cannot* justify the cost unless it's viable as a smartphone, and I know I'm not alone. Your business would probably double overnight if we knew it had a reasonably current security patch.
Time to upgrade my cell to one of these. Cloud Memory
I am very interested in the RFinder B1+ from watching this video. The interesting part to me is the ability of the device to work as a cellular phone and radio. My wife and I will be transforming into full time RVer's this year and communications capability is very key to us. How well does the RFinder work as a cellular phone. I currently have a Samsung running Android 12 on AT&T cellular. I am thinking about moving to this for cellular as well as FM/DMR. Since it has two SIM slot, I can run two different carriers to insure that I have cellular connection. How well does this work with cellular? Have you have any problems with apps not running due to Android 9? What is your overall experience with the device as a phone?
Thanks, 73 K5BRS
I am thinking the same thing. But apparently this question is not going tobe answered.
Cloud memory. How do you like the stubby antenna? Just got my B1+ last week and think I might get the stubby.
I like it alot better than the stock antenna
Hey Jason. Just saw your video 2 weeks after you posted UT. (Yea I am a little behind) I have the B1+ (a gift about a year ago from my twin brother (also a ham) and the I got so into it because I spend a lot of my time in car I picked up a P7 tablet for $1000. I love the cloud memories. Both are programmed exactly the same in less than 10 minutes. Loved your video. Oh yea...cloud memory..🤣🤣 73. De KJ6FXA
Thanks for watching
i love my RFinder B1+
Cloud Memory. What do you find to be the most valuable aspect of using the RFinder for someone who is not a big Digital User? What is the upside instead of using a cell phone and a regular HT.
Well it is 1 unit instead of 2. Plus it finds repeaters near you on analog also.
Can you use rfinder without the sim card?
Cloud Memory I have been wanting an RFinder but not able to get it right now. Maybe later this year. So it has 2 SIM slots so it can replace my Samsung Android phone?
Correct
@@HamRadio2 I checked my carrier and discovered my current phone is available for an upgrade. So instead of getting a new phone from the carrier, I may have to bite the bullet and get a B1+.
Cloud Memory - Where is RFinder getting their repeater information? Mainly the DMR repeaters and TG/TS. I am a DMR repeater owner and I see some users not getting the correct TG/TS configuration for their RFinder radios. I do have BM setup with the correct information for what the repeater uses, but I didn't know where RFinder is pulling their data from. Thank you, KD0TGF
They sync with RadioID.net, which is where you get IDs for radios and repeaters. You can update your own repeater info by following this video - th-cam.com/users/livejaOLk4DTqSQ
I Love Cloud Memory! RFinder looks like my newest Adventure Radio. Will it do FirstNet by being Band 14 compliant?
He has another version called the B14 that is for Band 14 FirstNet.
@@HamRadio2 Awesomeness!! Thank You!
He needs to include AREDN network linking capability,
He is actually looking at that
Watched ,thanks
Thanks for watching
I forgot what I wanted to ask. I must have a ' clouded memory ' today ...LOL
CLOUD MEMORY Are they coming-out with newer models soon? 5g version? Are they hard to set up if you are new to it?
I'm not aware of a 5G version. They are easy to setup, yes
so if you get the RFinder do you have to use cloud memory
No, you don't have to use it.
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nice job
Cloud memory I'm not even a technician
Operator yet but I'm almost ready I think
Q is the rfinder a good match for a beginner?
Yes I think it is
CLOUD MEMORY Great video Jason, as usual. I watch you from a few different accounts depending on the device i'm currently using, and watched this on another device. However, for ease of typing, I switched over to this laptop account. I've always been interested in the rfinders, but I dont think im ready for the leap yet. I still don't know all theins and outs of oip and dmr stuff yet. However, I do have a question for you. I have been on a quest for about a year right now to find the perfect radio for me right now, with no avail. I currently have about 4 yaesu ht's, about 4 yaesu mobiles, and a kenwood mobile, and had an old icom ht. My favorite radio, and my first radio, is a yaesu ft-270r. It is so easy for me to carry into the woods while hunting, it has been my main ht while storm chasing for over 10 years, and never have to worry about it, and it has taken a beating over the years. However, I can BARELY reach the repeater from the woods on a good day. I have recently discovered a 440 repeater within 3 miles of my hunting, so i purchased an ft 60 dual band, and it serves me well. My favorite feature is the squelch knob instead of adjusting squelch in the menu. However, it is NO WAY near the ruggedness or waterproof capabilities of my ft-270. My question is: Is there a dual band ht, new or used, that is rugged like the ft-270, that has a squelch knob? I really like to stick with the top 3 brands, yaesu, kenwood,, and icom, but if there is a lower quality radio that fits my needs, I'll take those suggestions as well. Any and all feedback will be greatly apprecieated. Thank you in advance. 73's KD9SML CLOUD MEMORY
can it be used without wifi or cell
service?
You need some sort of Internet service to access the database of repeaters but you can use it on WiFi only and not have to add a SIM card to it
Can I get an update on this radio? A ham friend ordered one and so far he cannot get any info on its processing {of his order}, from any emails he sent or when he tried to call the number listed on the website, all he got was music on hold! Are they still in business?
I sent your message to Bob. Yes, of course they are still in business and working on some very cool stuff. You can always join his Zoom session, which he welcomes everyone to.
@@HamRadio2 Thanks for the reply. My friend, N7UFK still hasn't heard any word if his order has been processed yet. He got it on a payment plan and the first payment will be taken from his bank account soon. Was his order just the luck of the draw?
Cloud Memory works in Canada eh!
cloud memory what is the going price of the older ver./
Gigaparts has the lowest price ever - www.gigaparts.com/rfinder-b1-classic-android-dmr-fm-roip-radio.html
Is this feasible as a everyday carry phone?
Sure, I carried mine for 2-3 years
hi! i just bought a m1 rfinder but cannot download a rfinder app . do you think whats the problem? thank you in advance
Go to install.rfinder.net
And it's on SALE!
$1,149.95 USD
Sale price $1,149.00 USD
I love the idea of this radio, and I understand why it's expensive, but .95 cents is a sale?
Where is this?
@@HamRadio2 The link in your description, the RFinder site.
@@LdHrothgar I'll check with them, that doesn't seem right