Have you ever built an entire system of public transportation only to have your citizens not use it? Frustrating, we know! Hopefully this tutorial helps you solve some of those problems, and gets the ridership up for your bus routes, trains, and metro!
Worse for most times for me is that there will be cims that are waiting for a bus and there are 300 of them, but they're going to a place that they can easier walk to. Once they have decided to take a form of transport, they don't want to do anything else. What I've had to do is make the stops even further apart AND not near where the metro et al stations are, just so that if their destination is within walking distance, they'll walk rather than take the bus for three blocks. Access Only streets would also help: you can make a bus stop that is long enough to let some busses backstuff each other onto a road without blocking traffic (other than other busses).
Sam Bur: "During disaster evacuation times with an intentionally bad and far bunker systems, my traffic flow is 75%. Now that's probably a good number for most of you-." Audience, most of whom has hundred hours of playtime: I feel attacked I have almost 200 and still finds a lot of things that can be optimized in my city :'D
kafilator 09 it despawns vehicles, if they’re stuck in traffic for too long or if the traffic gets too dense. Its like putting your game in super easy mode
I dont find this tutorial very helpfull so Im going to post my own here: So first we should take a look on where the cims are going. Usually the cims are going from residental zones to industrial/office zones and from residental to shopping zones. - From my experience, shopping zones tend to get more cims going in them ( around 2x or 3x more than ind. ), especially if you compare them to industrial/office zones. That means that shopping zones recquire more public transportation options. Second thing to look at is how to plan public transportation. It is not as simple as just doing a bus line from residental to shopping - like yeah technically it would work, but it would by no means be good way. What you need to have is first of different kind of transportation, mainly depending on the capacity - So you need light transport, medium transport, and the heavy transport - I will explain. - Light transport mainly buses However they are for kinda collecting the cims in some smaller area, transporting them to some transfer stations or hubs in the area. The area should not be bigger than few junctions and the lane should have less than 8 stops ( in one dirrection if you are not doing loop lines ). - Medium transport - I preffer trams ( but you need snowfall dlc for them ) So you may say, that trams are basically buses but worse, because you need aditional infrastructure, but that is not true. Key to having them working succesfully is separating them from the roads - because, if they are on roads, they can get stuck in traffic jams and sometimes even cause them. That is why I recomend running them separatly on tracks ( only for trams ) on the side of the road, ideally underpassing every main road ( 4 and 6 lane roads with high traffic use ). This makes them into really good medium capacity transport to move cims around city. Make the lanes from residental zones to shopping zones and connect bus lines to some of their stations, so that they can pick up cims from the bus lines / drop cims to the bus lines. - Heavy transport - I use metro Mainly because it is fast and even less dependent on trafic flow + it has quite high capacity. Main point of this transport is to connect the bussiest places and relieve stress from medium transport. Keep in mind to have each line running in it's own tunels and stations, so they dont block each other. I would recomend getting some modded vehicles of your choice, because the ones that the vanilla game offers have quite low capacity. Now what you need to have second are hubs, not one central hub as the video suggest, but several smallers where metro lines cross each other making a transfer station there ( I recomend getting these 2 or 3 platform metro stations from workshop, but placing 2 normal ones should work as well ) and having some tram line stop close too. Also as goes for normal roads, dont rely only on one line to the area, have multiple enterring from different places, so that the cims are distributed across more lines - by that you prevent overcrowding of one line / station or atleast reduce it happening. It is shame that I can't really show you pictures, because that would make explaining easier but what can one do. Also if you are interrested, I have around 16 000 cims using my public transportation, but that seems to be the maximum, because I have it like this from like 60k pop. and now with 100k it is still the same. Anyways hope this helps atleast a bit.
I know you posted this over a year ago, but I just wanted to let you know how helpful your comment/explanation was to me. I recently hit about 20K cims and traffic is becoming a real problem. Hopefully I will be able to alleviate some of it using your tips. Thanks again!
Don't get me wrong Metro overhaul is a great mod the only problem is every time there's a new game update or DLC Metro overhaul mod is one of the first mods to completely crashed your game
I motivate people using public transport by giving it a lot of shortcuts. Cars have to drive arround, but public transport has a direct and fast conection
Interesting, but not deep enough in my opinion. Would need to see some real situation example in your cities. With that video, which is pretty straightforward, we still don't know how to correctly place transport district. Thanks for it anyway though.
No real correct way of placing a transport district or hub, That's truly up to you and where you want it. As long as you're incorporating multiple forms of transportation in one area and making it a hub that brings everything like Buses, Trains, Metro, and so forth to one location it'll help get people to ride different forms of transport when they reach your hub and try to get to wherever they're trying to go :)
If you have hundreds of people waiting for buses does that effect the economy or usage of public transport? Have seen Cims seeming waiting days for a bus. Increasing the bus budget (number of buses) isn't always helpful.
What I don't get is how far from each other the bus stops must be. You are talking about 4 blocks. But is this a block as in one square? Or this a undefined sized residential block?
@@jsomhorst It doesn't matter how many squares lol it's up to you with how many "Blocks" you have and how spaced out they are! Then you'll be able to space those stops out :)
@@MrWhitesoxfalife Now that is a more workable answer. Some Fairlife Milk doesn't have a definition of size for "Block" apparently, so that is way too vague.
My god, i wish the devs would just write a documentation of the traffic ai’s on the official wiki. Having clear knowledge of the factors considered for transportation from a to b would be so nice.
Hi Cities skyline ! Your tutorial video is a great idea. But the format is way to short. I think using the UI is the first thing people learn. I want to learn how to place correctly my bus stop, how to make my residential district using my transport to go to industry/Commercial. For the next video, could you please give us real tips about the game ? :/
We appreciate the feedback! We want to keep them short so you can find exactly what you want to know, without having to skip through a 10-20 minute video, haha. We will have MANY more tutorial videos coming, and many of them will dig into more advanced mechanics and detailing (making it look good)
@@CitiesSkylines Waho I'm impressed ! Now I understand why you choose this format and why you start by the basics :) Keep doing your great work, it's a pleasur to play your lovely game ! :D
Hopefully a few top Cities Skylines You Tubers see this, as they never seem to make their public transport efficient enough using these tools. You should have discussed the magnifying glass tab and the ability to increase the budget and thus the amount of vehicles on each line.
Thanks for this! We'll have some more tutorials that cover public transportation in-depth, and also some that show how to make them look GOOD, as well as some that show off mods that can help as well for PC players We wanted to have this tutorial get us started with a good overview =)
Paradox, you guys should make a realistic DLC, it would have real life disasters like car crashes and more. I think it would be cool. Edit (You do not need a DLC, you can just add more details like car crashes) it might be a bad idea but for some it is not
A game is a simplification of real life mechanics. To allow all the complicated calculations to take place, you need to take shortcuts and unfortunately “realism” is way too complex
Tyler Leutner I agree but like they do not need a DLC, they could just add car wrecks and stuff. My city is realistic and if you check out others, they are too. They do not need a DLC but add littler details. Something like that. I think it is a good idea but it might be hard. Other might too but some might think it is a bad idea
Pickle Does not Game! Yeah I do have desires for the same kind of stuff but I think that should be left to the modding community as it would take a lot of resources and would potentially need a total rework of a lot of major functions, which in turn would ruin the modding community (which is HUGE in this game) and also break everyone’s saved games from the past years of the game being out. It’s a great idea no doubt but going to the devs for it isn’t the place to do it. I would suggest bringing this up on the forums and see if any modders have ideas on how to implement this.
I would like that they should so make it much easier to increase population growth it should be a dlc to get population growth though the roof is would really like that
Really enjoying the tutorials! One idea for a future tutorial would be for water in the Map Editor. I can never quite get my rivers to stop creating massive waves that makes them overflow and tree placement is also something I’d love to learn more about!
this is easy. put the game on fast forward and wait until the waves vanish. if its still leaking out, edit the terrain around it. But waiting does the trick 90% of the time.
Mister Gunsen I’ve tried waiting and it seems that it’s more likely that you just can’t have downhill rivers. I would love to know any tips or tricks for this as I love using terrain party to get realistic maps and then altering them in photoshop.
I’ve tried rocks and banks but I am really unsure how to tame the water when going from high elevation to low elevation gradually without waterfalls and flattening all of the terrain to one level
nice! i find metros the most used form of transport in my cities (in my 350k city, the overall usage of transport is 11k/week, the buses take 6,5k (with over 70 lines), the metros take 3k (on 6 lines with a couple of change stations) and the rest is trains (a lot of intercity ones come in)
@@xiwyn1464 yes ..... land and the boat doc with train..... plus use the subway to boost your cash. Regular train stations can be use some what later in your build pending how far along you are.
You'll never be able to gain money with public transports, and that's pretty accurate compared to real life/ However, transports will be beneficial to drive more people to commercial zones and work zones, so you have better tax income
Have you ever built an entire system of public transportation only to have your citizens not use it? Frustrating, we know! Hopefully this tutorial helps you solve some of those problems, and gets the ridership up for your bus routes, trains, and metro!
Oh sh*t. You guys respond my email. THANK YOU BRO.
Could of done it in a bigger population, got 260k this aint too much help, shame
Worse for most times for me is that there will be cims that are waiting for a bus and there are 300 of them, but they're going to a place that they can easier walk to. Once they have decided to take a form of transport, they don't want to do anything else. What I've had to do is make the stops even further apart AND not near where the metro et al stations are, just so that if their destination is within walking distance, they'll walk rather than take the bus for three blocks.
Access Only streets would also help: you can make a bus stop that is long enough to let some busses backstuff each other onto a road without blocking traffic (other than other busses).
When do you start public transportation
I never played that game
Me: played over 500 hours of CS
_watches tutorial anyway_
indeed, perhaps we found something missed :))
Exactly lol. Just something about looking at other city builder's work hours they put in.
Sam Bur: "During disaster evacuation times with an intentionally bad and far bunker systems, my traffic flow is 75%. Now that's probably a good number for most of you-."
Audience, most of whom has hundred hours of playtime: I feel attacked
I have almost 200 and still finds a lot of things that can be optimized in my city :'D
Same
people who disable vehicle despawn are the real gods of this game
😂 truuu
Wish I could but console doesn’t allow
I do
What does it do
kafilator 09 it despawns vehicles, if they’re stuck in traffic for too long or if the traffic gets too dense. Its like putting your game in super easy mode
I dont find this tutorial very helpfull so Im going to post my own here:
So first we should take a look on where the cims are going.
Usually the cims are going from residental zones to industrial/office zones and from residental to shopping zones. - From my experience, shopping zones tend to get more cims going in them ( around 2x or 3x more than ind. ), especially if you compare them to industrial/office zones. That means that shopping zones recquire more public transportation options.
Second thing to look at is how to plan public transportation.
It is not as simple as just doing a bus line from residental to shopping - like yeah technically it would work, but it would by no means be good way.
What you need to have is first of different kind of transportation, mainly depending on the capacity - So you need light transport, medium transport, and the heavy transport - I will explain.
- Light transport mainly buses
However they are for kinda collecting the cims in some smaller area, transporting them to some transfer stations or hubs in the area. The area should not be bigger than few junctions and the lane should have less than 8 stops ( in one dirrection if you are not doing loop lines ).
- Medium transport - I preffer trams ( but you need snowfall dlc for them )
So you may say, that trams are basically buses but worse, because you need aditional infrastructure, but that is not true. Key to having them working succesfully is separating them from the roads - because, if they are on roads, they can get stuck in traffic jams and sometimes even cause them. That is why I recomend running them separatly on tracks ( only for trams ) on the side of the road, ideally underpassing every main road ( 4 and 6 lane roads with high traffic use ). This makes them into really good medium capacity transport to move cims around city. Make the lanes from residental zones to shopping zones and connect bus lines to some of their stations, so that they can pick up cims from the bus lines / drop cims to the bus lines.
- Heavy transport - I use metro
Mainly because it is fast and even less dependent on trafic flow + it has quite high capacity.
Main point of this transport is to connect the bussiest places and relieve stress from medium transport. Keep in mind to have each line running in it's own tunels and stations, so they dont block each other.
I would recomend getting some modded vehicles of your choice, because the ones that the vanilla game offers have quite low capacity.
Now what you need to have second are hubs, not one central hub as the video suggest, but several smallers where metro lines cross each other making a transfer station there ( I recomend getting these 2 or 3 platform metro stations from workshop, but placing 2 normal ones should work as well ) and having some tram line stop close too.
Also as goes for normal roads, dont rely only on one line to the area, have multiple enterring from different places, so that the cims are distributed across more lines - by that you prevent overcrowding of one line / station or atleast reduce it happening.
It is shame that I can't really show you pictures, because that would make explaining easier but what can one do.
Also if you are interrested, I have around 16 000 cims using my public transportation, but that seems to be the maximum, because I have it like this from like 60k pop. and now with 100k it is still the same.
Anyways hope this helps atleast a bit.
Underrated tysm
I know you posted this over a year ago, but I just wanted to let you know how helpful your comment/explanation was to me. I recently hit about 20K cims and traffic is becoming a real problem. Hopefully I will be able to alleviate some of it using your tips. Thanks again!
This is helpful
@@diabolo3214man, my city is with almost 400k and my traffics is pure CHAOS. Gonna try this man wrote
Just ban driving then you get 100% usage
You can't ban driving on consoles
Sounds like North Korea
@@zigv8325 you can
@@Marcel-um1cu not all vehicles
@@williamwong2706 Lol! Hahaha
I refuse to play without Metro Overhaul. Given my local subway station is on an elevated line, it just feels normal to me.
I feel the same way, but it is what it is for now
Don't get me wrong Metro overhaul is a great mod the only problem is every time there's a new game update or DLC Metro overhaul mod is one of the first mods to completely crashed your game
metropod tbf, metro overhaul should be baseline in the game and not a separate mod really
@Matthew Menotti Well your wish has come true.
They added it yay
Haven't played in a while but good you can now change transport line colours on console.
Way to tell me literally nothing. Here's a tutorial on public transport. There's buses, trains, the metro. Alright. Have fun
I am pretty sure they have individual tutorials for each level of transport now
Thank you for helping me not waste my time 💙
@@nemomoriarty4303 Literally
Fantastic tutorial 👍😀
Thanks! :)
I motivate people using public transport by giving it a lot of shortcuts. Cars have to drive arround, but public transport has a direct and fast conection
Same with walking paths. I like to culdesac roads and just have a walking path where the road would have connected.
Interesting, but not deep enough in my opinion. Would need to see some real situation example in your cities. With that video, which is pretty straightforward, we still don't know how to correctly place transport district. Thanks for it anyway though.
Agreed. This isn't a public transport tutorial, it just literally tells you what a Bus is, what a train is, it's bs to be honest
No real correct way of placing a transport district or hub, That's truly up to you and where you want it. As long as you're incorporating multiple forms of transportation in one area and making it a hub that brings everything like Buses, Trains, Metro, and so forth to one location it'll help get people to ride different forms of transport when they reach your hub and try to get to wherever they're trying to go :)
If you have hundreds of people waiting for buses does that effect the economy or usage of public transport? Have seen Cims seeming waiting days for a bus. Increasing the bus budget (number of buses) isn't always helpful.
I'm not sure if it affects the economy directly, but if your Cims are waiting for too long in a stop, they'll leave it, and usually stop using it
What I don't get is how far from each other the bus stops must be. You are talking about 4 blocks. But is this a block as in one square? Or this a undefined sized residential block?
A block is every intersection. So every 4 or 5 intersections or blocks as they're called place a Bus Station
@@CowTown how far (how many squares) are these intersections apart?
@@jsomhorst It doesn't matter how many squares lol it's up to you with how many "Blocks" you have and how spaced out they are! Then you'll be able to space those stops out :)
@@jsomhorst ideally you want to make 8 to 10 squares between for neighborhoods and 15 for commercials then set your bus routes accordingly.
@@MrWhitesoxfalife Now that is a more workable answer. Some Fairlife Milk doesn't have a definition of size for "Block" apparently, so that is way too vague.
My god, i wish the devs would just write a documentation of the traffic ai’s on the official wiki. Having clear knowledge of the factors considered for transportation from a to b would be so nice.
Hi Cities skyline !
Your tutorial video is a great idea.
But the format is way to short.
I think using the UI is the first thing people learn.
I want to learn how to place correctly my bus stop, how to make my residential district using my transport to go to industry/Commercial.
For the next video, could you please give us real tips about the game ? :/
We appreciate the feedback! We want to keep them short so you can find exactly what you want to know, without having to skip through a 10-20 minute video, haha. We will have MANY more tutorial videos coming, and many of them will dig into more advanced mechanics and detailing (making it look good)
@@CitiesSkylines Waho
I'm impressed !
Now I understand why you choose this format and why you start by the basics :)
Keep doing your great work, it's a pleasur to play your lovely game ! :D
I really wish you guys made an articulated bus to the vanilla game that looks like the biofuel bus from the green cities dlc
Monorails, cable cars, Ferries and boats have left the chat
Hopefully a few top Cities Skylines You Tubers see this, as they never seem to make their public transport efficient enough using these tools. You should have discussed the magnifying glass tab and the ability to increase the budget and thus the amount of vehicles on each line.
Thanks for this! We'll have some more tutorials that cover public transportation in-depth, and also some that show how to make them look GOOD, as well as some that show off mods that can help as well for PC players
We wanted to have this tutorial get us started with a good overview =)
I am so excited for a next DLC guy! a trailer please !
Bump :)
What dlc?
My fav intro track.
I'm on console. This is so useful!
please clarify how much space should be between bus stops? I always hear people say 4 to 5 blocks....how big is a 'block' unit in the game???
Please add double-decker buses in order to increase the capacity of each bus!
I like that as well
You got what you wanted good sir
@@SquidCena who said this generation is all bad yay
Paradox, you guys should make a realistic DLC, it would have real life disasters like car crashes and more. I think it would be cool. Edit (You do not need a DLC, you can just add more details like car crashes) it might be a bad idea but for some it is not
Wouldn't it drain your CPU?
A game is a simplification of real life mechanics. To allow all the complicated calculations to take place, you need to take shortcuts and unfortunately “realism” is way too complex
Tyler Leutner I agree but like they do not need a DLC, they could just add car wrecks and stuff. My city is realistic and if you check out others, they are too. They do not need a DLC but add littler details. Something like that. I think it is a good idea but it might be hard. Other might too but some might think it is a bad idea
Pickle Does not Game! Yeah I do have desires for the same kind of stuff but I think that should be left to the modding community as it would take a lot of resources and would potentially need a total rework of a lot of major functions, which in turn would ruin the modding community (which is HUGE in this game) and also break everyone’s saved games from the past years of the game being out. It’s a great idea no doubt but going to the devs for it isn’t the place to do it. I would suggest bringing this up on the forums and see if any modders have ideas on how to implement this.
I would like that they should so make it much easier to increase population growth it should be a dlc to get population growth though the roof is would really like that
How comes this guys TH-cam channel doesn't exist anymore?
I was wondering too as i used to watch him often. I remembered he changed his name
Great video, thank you!
I never seen any utuber that is profitable on their overall public transportation.
Yesssss more console videos please
Really enjoying the tutorials! One idea for a future tutorial would be for water in the Map Editor. I can never quite get my rivers to stop creating massive waves that makes them overflow and tree placement is also something I’d love to learn more about!
this is easy. put the game on fast forward and wait until the waves vanish. if its still leaking out, edit the terrain around it. But waiting does the trick 90% of the time.
Mister Gunsen I’ve tried waiting and it seems that it’s more likely that you just can’t have downhill rivers. I would love to know any tips or tricks for this as I love using terrain party to get realistic maps and then altering them in photoshop.
I’ve tried rocks and banks but I am really unsure how to tame the water when going from high elevation to low elevation gradually without waterfalls and flattening all of the terrain to one level
Great idea! We'll talk to some pro's and see if they'd be up for it
Loving these
Word report when it on the first scene
NUMBERS!
Nice video
Over 3k people including tourists are using my metro!
nice! i find metros the most used form of transport in my cities (in my 350k city, the overall usage of transport is 11k/week, the buses take 6,5k (with over 70 lines), the metros take 3k (on 6 lines with a couple of change stations) and the rest is trains (a lot of intercity ones come in)
what track is used in here?
I need help with tips on a transportaition designing and hopeful of getting more to use them! Im speaking about a populated small city (100.000).
I've tried don't this and now here's more buses than cars in my City, send help
@cityskylines when will the industry dlc be added to console or is it not happening
its here
0:48 please tell me how I can get this on Xbox
What thing
The intersection? You have to draw two perpendicular road, then draw 4 more with 45 degree angles.
Please fix AI traffic. 😔
I’m finding I’m spending more money on public transport than I’m making. What am I doing wrong haha?
I know its old but your links are dead
Could you colaborate with Akruas he is really good TH-camr with really good cities
How do i get one of those bus terminals?
They unlock at a certain tier.
Build a gigantic city first
@@BrutalBa5sMixedBag I already have about 100,000 population and at the highest level, but I was missing the After Dark DLC
On Xbox and I can’t play this game anymore
Thanx for video. i love the game but honestly this video is not tutorial its advertisment....but its ok....😜
Make an airport DLC
They did. It’s releasing January 25, 2022!
please make an Indonesian language tutorial too citiest skyline
does anyone make money out of transportation?
Yeah I do
You can easily make profit with buses and metros but with trains it's very hard.
@@xiwyn1464 I makes good money off from trains.....
@@MrWhitesoxfalife do u use cargo trainstations? I'm always making 20k minus each weak with trains but I mainly use them for export.
@@xiwyn1464 yes ..... land and the boat doc with train..... plus use the subway to boost your cash. Regular train stations can be use some what later in your build pending how far along you are.
"Just remember to keep in mind..."
music is annoying cANT HERE U PROPERLY
I always lose money from public transport
You'll never be able to gain money with public transports, and that's pretty accurate compared to real life/ However, transports will be beneficial to drive more people to commercial zones and work zones, so you have better tax income
@@MotorStorm You can make profit. Mycity makes 15 000 profit each weak with metros.
that's weird, public transport is more like "giveaway" to citizen. Still real income are from tax of 4 types zones.
Paradox, please change the vehicle's-AI. It's annoying
Make them drive more realistically
wtf happened to this guy? these videos are the only trace i can find of him
EXACTLY. I used to watch him often, then he changed his YT name due to copyrights. Really wanna know what happened with the dude.
Please let me know if you got any updates
First