Thanks for watching fellas! For the people saying that "the director said he would win/ would win easily". That was NEVER said. All Adam Wingard said was that he believed Godzilla was weakened and that the battle might have gone differently/ he might have won. There's a HUGE difference between saying "he might win/the battle would have gone differently" and "he would have won." All he said was that the battle was more up in the air. He never definitively said Godzilla would win. Please don't twist people's words to make an argument, lol.
I love watching Godzilla movies and just shutting off my brain watching big kaiju punch but there's something about these videos I just can't get enough of.
If we’re going by narrative, then Mechagodzilla would be squarely in the antagonist role given how (if I remember the movie correctly) it’s creation was what made Godzilla behave more violently, and was at least part of the reason they brought Kong along with them
Your completely right, sure it doesn’t sound the best to some people but to me it completely sets up why Godzilla and Kong had conflict with each other in the movie,
The brought kong to get them to the hollow earth, everything after that was godzilla challenging kong that why he blasted the a hole down to the hollow earth that's when kong jumped down.
Yeah no, burning Godzilla isn't something Goji can just turn on and off, it's not super saiyan, he needs mothra's energy to trigger it, as we saw in King of the monsters
@@kingkurok3149 He dosent need mothra energy you clearly don’t understand how Godzilla went thermonuclear. Godzilla upon getting nuked was buffed and was reaching critical levels of radiation mothra dying gave him her radiation as well speeding up the burning process. All Godzilla has to do to go burning is absorb large amounts of radiation for example like from the hollow earth lair he has.
It’s been pretty much confirmed at this point to be a 50/50, Wingard literally says he has no idea who’d win and originally had tired Godzilla in GvK having a back and forth battle with mg.
No lmao. It's a massacre in favor of Mecha. You can't just create a Robotic Kaiju that's literally a counter to Godzilla in every single way, and then call it a 50-50.
@@prehistoriccreature1800 tell that to Mr. Wingard, staff the worked on GvK, and some lore. More actually points to Godzilla winning in most battles than MG.
@@HighFlyersTagTeam I don't care what they say. If that's what they're implying, then they destroyed their own points while making the movie itself LMAO.
There is the rumor of how mechagodzilla was based on 2014 godzillas strenght and weaknesses therefore not counting on the upgrade he got in king of the monsters or his further power development in gvsk
@@elijahbaker781 the original mechagodzilla was built by alien monkey men (not joking btw) the only mecha godzilla built from bones of godzilla is most commonly called Kiryu or Mechagodzilla 3. It was present in two movies Godzilla against Mechagodzilla, amd Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S.
How Godzilla behaved differently around Kong and MechaGodzilla was quite revealing. With Kong, Godzilla paced himself like a seasoned vet and seemed to be daydreaming about future fights with more experienced fighters. But when MechaGodzilla showed up? Godzilla went into a full rage-sprint! As for whether or not Godzilla could beat MechaGodzilla at full strength? That's difficult to say. MechaGodzilla shares Godzilla's power source, meaning MG's energy is equivalent to Big G. As Chuck noted in his ALPHA analysis, the novel states MG is faster and stronger than Godzilla (which made the situation direr because Godzilla was severely worn out), but that doesn't mean we'd declare MG victorious by default. Could MG withstand Godzilla's Super Atomic Breath? Probably not. So the question is can Godzilla buy enough time to power up and unleash atomic oblivion? That's what this comes down to. MG has the strength, speed, and weapons to bludgeon Godzilla into submission. It looks like it could go either way. Basically, whosoever screws up first shall possess the shame of defeat. Honestly, I can't help but speculate that the ambiguity on who'd really win was intentional. Like, sequel hook-intentional if you know what I mean. Great video, Chuck!
That’s a good catch. Godzilla probably lowered his BIQ by getting too emotional eventually being forced into a supporting role for Kong rather than Kong supporting him. Either way, if Godzilla could land a clean hit with max power atomic breathe then he’ll win
MG21 was confirmed that he could handle around 5 seconds if he was pinned to the ground and the hollow breath was used, so if Godzilla hit him like he did with Kong with his breath, it would just leave a scratch.
@@Meta.Muncher, eh the director isn’t always right, it could be longer. Because I mean, Kong got right back up after Godzilla hit him with his atomic breath.
MechaG reminds me of a glass cannon, but more intense like a toilet paper Ballistic Missile, since we saw Ghidorah tank some sustained atomic breath without suffering any damage in KOTM
@@Sushidog2005 This is canonically false. After being nuked in KOTM, Godzilla’s atomic breath is canonically the strongest variant in the Monsterverse so far and is even more powerful than when he drilled a hole into the hollow earth.
Short answer: yes. Godzilla got hit by the fully charged axe and it barely sunk into his leg. Mechagodzilla was ripped apart by hits by an axe with potentially less charge. Add that to Godzilla being fatigued and still managing to stand up to MG even briefly and I would say they would be close to even, but Godzilla would outlast Mechagodzilla while he stacks the damage bit by bit on the mech. This is even without creator statements on the fight and capabilities of both since the movie came out like the designer of Mechagodzilla saying MG couldn't take sustained blasts of Godzilla's breath. Again, good video. Like the Godzilla content. You should do a Mechagodzilla vs Ghidorah or even Kong vs other kaiju.
@@artisticdinosaur4194 bruh gojira/godzilla was HELLA weak if he was full power he would have manhandled mecha and then finished of kong while he was unconscious So godzilla would have won by natures side “Humans can never surpass nature” -me
@@averagedoseofTSB it was the original name and just cause something is built to kill another thing u can’t just deny the evidence given that the other thing would be able to win lore can’t prove everything sometimes
I believe that a fresh base Godzilla would probably be able to beat Mecha Godzilla with a high amount of difficulty and it would by no means be an easy battle. Thermonuclear Godzilla would likely just melt Mecha Godzilla at the temperatures he would be putting out. The pulse he shoots out in that form could also likely act as a sort of EMP and either fully shut down Mecha G, or severely mess with its abilities in a simmilar fashion as to what happened in the movie with the human's help.
Thermo nuclear Godzilla is basically a nuke. So he would create an EMP but it wouldn’t be as affective as an actual nuke. But it wouldn’t matter the temperatures would be so extreme it would melt mechs in one or 2 shots
I fell like Mechagodzilla's speed and agility would still push Godzilla to his limit even at full power. Don't see how Godzilla would be able to keep up with his speed and his beam can also damage Godzilla. The battle would be longer but Godzilla would have to strategized a new way to beat him and if he chooses to stick to close combat he'll lose.
godzilla isnt exactly a strategist either. he can find a way to kill most enemies, but mechagodzilla was designed specifically just for him, he mightve been too much
I think the reason that Kong with the axe did so much damage is the fact that the axe is hitting a smaller area, it's not being evenly dispersed across the body. Similar to a window smasher. Putting all that strength into one point does more damage. And I think in raw physical strength Kong may be stronger than Godzilla.
It seems the axe is a strong conductor of energy from what material was made of, that is why being exposed in atomic breath will greatly increase its power that any kaiju that is not even 100% at strength can deal devastating damage
no kong is physical stronger bcs godzilla could stable his body even when he get punch to the face but kong cant do it godzilla threw kong but kong cant throw godzilla . godzilla would have won if he wasnt tired and if he didnt do the hollow earth beam bcs hollow earth beam took 80 percent of his power
@Rice What. Godzilla is 100,000 tons. Kong 2021 is 70,000 tons at best. The director of the movie himself said that if godzilla wasnt tired he would put a better fight and win
Hey Chuck, I recently watched your collab video with Jaymes Hanson about Mugetsu, I really loved how you two kinda analysed the Depth of Tite Kubo's poetic writing. I guess you'll agree when I say that BLEACH is one of the Poetic genius . It's just that readers have to understand the layers rather than just reading on a surface level. :-💕
Mechagodzilla: *plays the og theme on some loud speakers* Godzilla: OH SHIT NO? Kong: huh what wrong?? Godzilla: it’s his ass kicking theme we’re dead!!
I personally don't agree because of a few reasons that I can think of but the fact that you're so chill and not toxic whenever explaining why you think Mecha Godzilla would win still is enough to make me actually feel like hearing this out. Like I'm glad I'm able to find someone that I can disagree with that isn't being super duper toxic and just overhyping the kind you that they are talking about.
Not for my reasons why I think Godzilla would still win. Keep in mind I am taking from all monsterverse Godzilla media at least a little bit because even though there are parts that are largely not canon certain things like kaijudu durability or feats are still Canon at least until they go back and rewrite certain things after all even the film seem to slightly alter the continuity each time a new one releases. Terms of raw physical strength it is confirmed that Mechagodzilla isn't actually stronger than Godzilla he's only really faster and is able to stay a step ahead in terms of combat so long as it's something that Godzilla has done before if anything they even slightly hint to the fact that Godzilla might be physically stronger both before and after this film though it's not by a whole whole lot (like that time that Godzilla lifted 130,000 tons with his energy draining out and his spine partially damaged which is already really close to the amount of weight that Mecca Godzilla was throwing around which is about 90,000 tuns) In terms of durability Godzilla also takes this again Michael Godzilla is still able to utilize his battle intelligence but he's only made of titanium with some sort of tungsten alloyed over the surface of his body that means anything that titanium can be destroyed by if you can get through mechagodzillas thin shield coatings will also easily destroy Mechagodzilla. This means for instance if Godzilla were to stomp on Mecca Godzilla's tale somehow this would break it right off the 90,000 ton weight combined with Godzilla's great strength would be enough to easily crush titanium in spite of having a very high durability because like I've just mentioned it's possible that Godzilla is physically stronger than Mecha Godzilla even if it's just by a little. There's also the fact that it's confirmed Mecha Godzilla can only survive short-term blasts of Godzilla's regular atomic breath before his outer coating gets destroyed. And titanium itself melts at only slightly over 1,000 degrees Celsius. This means that if Godzilla decide to use the hollow Earth breath on Mechagodzilla not only would he win the beam battle but if you actually do the calculations the hollow Earth breath would have to be as hot or at the very least comparable to the heat of the sun to be able to incinerate all the materials that could be found underground in China without there being so much lava and flags at on both sides of the Hollow Earth tunnel he created. So of course I'm pretty sure that with the hollow Earth breath he could just shoot off and make a Godzilla's head and call it a day. This doesn't mean that Mecca Godzilla doesn't stain the chance due to being a comparable strength that Godzilla as well as being faster and having a proton screen that's similar in power to Godzilla's regular atomic breath he stands a pretty good chance after all instead of being super powerful guys every single one of Godzilla's kryptonites in mind but this doesn't mean that there's no chance for Godzilla to win. Basically put Godzilla's first time fighting Mecha Godzilla make a Godzilla has a big enough advantage that he could win but if Godzilla survives the encounter and learns that he needs to use the hollow Earth breath and full power then Godzilla would win.
This movies Mecha quickly became one of my favorite iterations. He just came in and stole the show as soon as he was introduced. I also liked Kong in this movie, poor man just wanted to be left alone.
Personally, I believe Godzilla would have won the battle given both the King and the Mech were in their top conditions. Firstly, Godzilla is way more resistant than Mech. We could assume this basing on the fact, that Mech was heavily damaged by the Kongs axe even though Godzillas atomic breath was very weak at the end of the battle. Meanwhile, a fully charged axe, powered by both Hollow earth energy and Godzillas full power atomic breath, still could not penetrate big G's armour plates. Consequently, Godzilla's full power atomic blast would have sliced Mech's armour easily, whereas Mechs lazer beam could not cut through G's scales. Secondly, a full powered Godzilla would not concede in speed and agility, as he was able to easily chase and catch Kong during the battle being already exhausted. Obviously, given Gojira is as agile as Mech, more resistant than Mech and has more powerful energy beam, he would have overpowered him in a close combat
Godzilla was never close to matching Kong or Mecha's speed I do not know where you are pulling that Godzilla becomes the flash at 100% but its wrong. Mecha was faster and more agile, not to mention able to move his limbs in ways Godzilla cannot. Mecha can't cut through Godzilla's hide well I agree. But He didn't really need too given how he was clearly going to kill Godzilla with a beam through the mouth. Godzilla tossed around the Mutos which weighed about 60,000 tons when he weighed around 90K tons. In GvK he weighed closer to 100K and we know he didn't toss around Ghidorah he blew him over with his pulse attack and then stepped on him. Mecha was dragging Godzilla around like he was a doll at one point it looked like Godzilla was off the ground as he was swung around through buildings. Mecha has the edge in terms of Strength as we have never seen Godzilla use his strength like that on comparable weight. Mecha also has edge in speed as well as we see him moving around far more agile than Godzilla. To be fair Godzilla is not very fast normally. Godzilla has the edge in durability for sure, 100% but being a tank is not that great when the other guy can toss you around and you can't defend yourself. Godzilla at full power's beam would be stronger this is true, but if Mecha can avoid it he can definitely make Godzilla's day a rough one. Mecha can't withstand a persistent beam from Godzilla this is true but even Kong survived a glancing blow with no lasting damage. I do believe Mecha's beam could hurt Godzilla is fired down through the mouth, at tissue that is not armored. So its a close fight but I think Mecha still wins because he could basically just wrestle Godzilla to the ground and wait for him to stop beaming before firing one down his gullet for the win. Kong was the deciding factor in that fight because his weapon and agility were not taken into account in the design. He was hooking spots and slicing tubes and wires easily and he was able to wrench Mecha in ways Godzilla physically cannot do. Mecha was designed to fight Godzilla so was not designed to handle "What if a giant ape wrenched its head back in this way"
TheLastSane1 here said tons of facts, but let me correct you on a couple of things: 1st- Yes, Godzilla's throat isn't armored, but it is used to let nukes' radiation pass through without internal bleeding or overheating or cooked flesh, so i'm with you on the fact that Mechagodzilla's kiss of death would've killed Godzilla but just keep in mind that Godzilla's throat still has some insane durability and regeneration. 2nd- Godzilla has stronger legs than MechaG but weaker arms, yes, but remember that Goji carried Muto Prime and tossed Ghidorah as one of his first moves in the Boston battle, a titan that weighs 141'000 tons tossed (also using body momentum but still impressive) like nothing, so once again i agree with you but remember that Godzilla's arms are really strong. 3rd- Overall i agree on most of the things that you said and i also think that Mechagodzilla would've won 1v1 even if Godzilla was in top shape, you're really good at speaking Kaiju facts and being careful at the details of fights that might avoid a misconception or a misunderstanding, let me know what you think
He didn't even use his tail which could be one of the most dangerous weapons which wasn't mentioned. The legs would not be able to be used in battle as for hitting unless mecha was on the ground flat, although mostly likely still stronger. You guys are better than me at this stuff, you're like experts in my pov.@@MonsterVerse_scientist-CnlDscr
@@MonsterVerse_scientist-CnlDscr Godzilla fullcharge would melt MechaG, Godzilla is pretty much nerfed on GvK to level it down with kong, He still has thermonuclear mode but probably less powerful than KOTM, but i still think with 100% of his energy he should be able to spam less powerful thermonuclear pulse but would be enough to melt sa metals in MG, he did spam thermonuclear pulse while fighting Muto Prime, so that shouldn't be discounted
Narratively speaking, this Mechagodzilla seems like he was designed to win in a Solo fight. The concept seemingly from the beginning was King Kong and Godzilla versus Mechagodzilla. It would take both to win. Again, just based on what the movie seems to depict in the story.
that’s what i thought too. imo mechagodzilla would’ve beaten both weakened kong and godzilla (without humans saving them) with ease but if he faced both of them at 100% power he’d be overwhelmed
@@TwocanToucan I would point out that Mecha was not said to be 100% complete he was still in testing phase right? It was not the plan for him to fight Godzilla just yet but they where going to try. So what would a completed Mecha look like? Could it take on both?
@@TwocanToucan godzilla was technically really tired of consecutive fights and travelling all over the world, aswell being hunted all throughout the movie without rest aswell as wasting soo much energy blasting a hole through the center of the earth, and spamming breaths, easy to say he was far from his best state, and yet he tanked much more hits, Godzilla would outlast Mecha in a fight, not considering the fact that mecha seems more fragile which is why he was given speed.
The whole movie was to have Godzilla work up until he was running low fuel. Thus, depowering a god so the mechanic titan can have a so all fair fight against the real G-man.
Here was hoping Ren would live. He could’ve had a daughter who loses her life to an illness. Then Ren may have used Godzilla’s DNA and a rare flower. To create Biolante.
Who knows, maybe Mark loses Maddie and thumbs the bill to have her either revived or cloned and they need Godzilla and the whole flower thing, creating biollante.
The biggest advantages mecha godzilla had in the movie, were godzilla being weakened, and it knowing what godzilla could do, while godzilla didn't know what it could do
The burning form Godzilla showed in the king of monsters was actually a last line of defense for his species. It called radioactive pulse which uses his atomic breath to generate extreme heat across his skin and dorsal fin.
True cause godzilla could just go beast mode like what he did with kong and I reckon a 120,000 tonn titan going really fast and hard on mg21 he would stand a chance
I do think that if Godzilla was at full power, he would have defeated mechagodzilla, albeit with much difficulty. Godzilla is a representation of nature while mechagodzilla is a representation of technology. No matter what advances in technology humanity achieves, humanity can't control or surpass forces of nature. Plus Godzilla's atomic breath which reached the hollow earth surpassed mechagodzilla's beam by far.
@@frivolousarguments8578 I respectfully disagree. Godzilla's atomic breath towards the hollow earth was most likely at maximum power, and it was confirmed that Godzilla lost some power after that. Adam Wingard also confirmed that Godzilla was not taking Kong seriously until after Kong used the axe to slam Godzilla with his own energy from his atomic breath.
Although, mecha g didn't use his tail which could be way more lethal than the other weapons, also being if they did beam clash, mecha Godzilla can disorient with missiles. **Most likely**@@StareachValcin
Mecha was designed to specifically target godzilla and had everything to counter the beast even at it’s full powered state… but Godzilla has insane durability and tenacity… he has been here for millions of years, nature already created a perfect counter to Godzilla MUTO & MUTO prime, they gave him a tough time but this Godzilla came out on top by sheer tenacity .. Mecha would’ve run out of energy and his body would eventually give up… I doubt that his energy beam would just vaporise Godzilla, if that were the case, humans would just create a big ass canon with that energy beam, instead of designing this massive complicated machine… it’s not like Godzilla is hard to be shot at
In King of the Monsters. The director said that Godzilla had Ghidorah beat in the past and that's why Ghidorah was frozen in the ice. Also the director stated that in the water fight, Godzilla would have killed Ghidorah without human interference. A fully powered Godzilla would have been a much different fight against Mechagodzilla. Be at least a 50/50 fight on land. If it was a sea battle, Godzilla wins 9 out of 10. If Godzilla went thermo... Godzilla would win 10 out of 10 times... Mechagodzilla looked and sounded amazing though.
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The Designer stated Godzilla at full power would beat MechaGodzilla, and plus His punches weren’t doing any damages at all to a weaken Godzilla, the only thing that was able to do some sort of Damage to Godzilla was his Proton scream. Adam also said it would be a back and forth except the Beam Clash
yeah “some sort of damage” sent him flying and left him with a giant scorch mark, and with only 3 seconds of contact. Mg21 is built to defeat him and has him beat in many categories, Godzilla at full power wouldn’t defeat him
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@@user-mc3if9xs7w bruh, his punches weren’t doing jack shit to Godzilla, He’s fighting an exhausted Godzilla, and yet he wasn’t able to make him bleed, the only thing that Damaged him was His Proton Scream. He needed to use more power to over power a 50% Godzilla in a beam clash. At full Power MechaGodzilla would only last 3.1 seconds against Godzilla’s Atomic Breath. He may have gotten thrash around building’s anf dragged to the floor, still no blood, scratches. bruises nothing.
@ because his punches aren’t meant to damage him on the outside, they’re meant to internally damage him and wear him down. MG21 has endless energy as stated in the novel so Godzilla hasn’t a hope in the world of defeating him even in the beam clash let alone a melee battle. Endless energy, he can literally fight forever while Godzilla can only fight for a limited time, and since he’s a mechanical entity he doesn’t have the flaws of an actual titan. not to mention the missiles also easily stun him as shown so say he’s charging up his atomic breath, missiles will stun him out of it. Mg21 literally blitzed him and got behind him before Godzilla even realized so. He’s got the speed, strength, and quite frankly the durability to take him on. Since he easily shrugged off Godzilla throwing his entire body at him, and getting slammed through a building by both kong and Godzilla without a scratch on him. He counters him in every way. and the designer also said mg21 weighs 1 trillion tons. Do you also take that as canon? The movie outright states him to be his superior and it’s very evident.
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@@user-mc3if9xs7w bruh, I’ve seen the calcs and feats, statements, Godzilla would win against MechaGodzilla, he got pushed back by Godzilla when they tackled each other, and needed weapons to get a weakened Kong & Godzilla off of him, a weaken Godzilla was over powering him, and the director stated he visualize a 50% Godzilla going back and forth with MechaGodzilla, and even said a beaten down Godzilla could still come back. Godzilla is physically stronger & more durable than MechaGodzilla. There’s even statements from a Japanese Guide book stating GvK Godzilla is weaker than the 2014 Godzilla, and the novel starte Godzilla has not gotten any rest because he kept sensing Ghidorah. The director even stated a full power Godzilla would win in a beam clash. His plasma punches weren’t able to make him gag out blood, or spit out blood. So no MechaGodzilla would not beat a full Power MechaGodzilla.
@ gvk Godzilla is not weaker than 2014. Not sure where you got that from. Godzilla patrolled for 2 years, and slept for 3 years feeding on radiation. He is nowhere near as slow or as weak as g14. For the last time, mechagodzillas punches are made to wear him out, damage him internally, and stun him. also, what is your point of “he needed weapons to get kong and Godzilla off of him”? He just played it smart, stunned Godzilla for a moment, threw kong, bashed Godzilla. Mechagodzilla threw kong with little to no effort, and dragged Godzilla along with throwing him through an entire building. all of my points are in the other one above, I’m not repeating myself. Adam wingard is a Godzilla fanboy, what do you expect from him? And that’s retconned because as I stated before, endless energy. Godzilla has limited energy. Connect the dots m8.
4:53 this right here is why I question the people I've run into that say MechaGodzilla and Apex shouldn't be the villains. Those guys would kill all the Kaiju and then use MechaGodzilla to hold the world hostage.
Plus like, Large Island Level mechs that can be remotely piloted are massively destructive so it'll cause an arms race to reproduce the weapon which could in turn cause more deaths then nukes or Titans
Welp, the guy who wrote Godzilla V.S. Kong pretty much confirmed that Godzilla was tired and only at 50% power and said that if Godzilla was at 100% full power, he'd defeat Mecha Godzilla even without Kong's help.
Lmao no one said godzilla was at 50% and there was literally more than 1 writer for the movie you know. Unless you're referring to Greg the guy who wrote the novelization he never said that as well. The whole 50% capacity thing came from a Tik toker who completely misinterpreted a simple review
@@Kaiju-bm4ts I agree, Godzilla is most likely much weaker than 50% considering that he barely fought back unlike when he uses 100% against Ghidorah/Muto Prime/Kong, it's much more differently
Something I noticed to hype up Godzilla is the breath charged axe lopped MG to pieces and he took a hit to his skull without even bleeding or anything. He took that headbonk and a gill punch and still showed Kong where he can and can’t shit.
I personally think it’s 50/50 still since Godzilla survived a direct hit from an extinction sized asteroid and MG’s max durability is not fully known since we don’t know what he’s made of, but at this point I’m just waiting for GojiCenter to do their comparisons in Monster Face Off and see what they say. This video has made me both nervous yet excited to see it.
It would have been a tough and hard fight for Godzilla, just like all the apparently superior kaijus he had faced before (Muto Prime exists to kill Godzilla). Mechagodzilla did not get a single hit from the Atomic breath, convenient for plot purposes. But in all honesty, it is pretty clear that all of Mechagodzilla's strenght at the end is given by the booster, yes, but mostly because it is basically Ghidorah in disguise, not just a halo. Without that particular, the machine would have been still super powerful and tough to fight against, but guided by Ren Serizawa. At the end of the day, it was still amazing, and the whole purpose of it was to simply let Kong get his own victorious moment despite losing against Godzilla and having them team up. Great video! Subscribed.
I mean, technically Kong is responsible for MechaG activating, so he’d technically be the villain, not Godzilla. Godzilla’s entire purpose was to destroy MechaG.
@@brianl8481 no he isn't if u have watched, kong was drug out of skull island hence why he was chained up. it also wasn't his fault mech g woke up, blame if on the scientists rushing to get it operating
it technically was kong’s fault but he didn’t do it on purpose u see godzilla probably knows who the dorsal plate from the axe belonged to like a direct relative or sum and godzilla does NOT like this he sensed the energy all the way in hollow earth that’s the reason he blew a hole there he sees the axe as an insult to his kind and it being wielded by 1 of his rivals would just make him wanna beat up kong but kong didn’t know this if he did and surrendered godzilla would’ve stopped mecha before it was even finished
The director said Godzilla would have won only the beam battle if at %100 so when Godzilla would he would blast mecha down and then Godzilla would have time to go and attack him and possibly end him so I’d say it’s 50/50
If Godzilla & Kong would had 100% full power to destroy Mechagodzilla, they wouldn't fight each other and wouldn't be exhausted since the movie started. But in the end though, with the help of the human assistance (from Madison and Jia), it was Godzilla + Kong teaming up and using their great intelligence (instead of their brute strength) to overpower the robotic Titan that saved the day.🦖🦍👍😉🎄🌌
Yo chuck, just a video suggestion maybe you could do a hypothetical mechagodzilla battle royal? This would include mechagodzillas with actual feats like kiryu, monster verse, heisei and showa (godzilla earth doesn't count for being just a nano city). Really like your videos and would love to see this, keep up the great work!
The “fight” between Godzilla and MechaGodzilla was FAR too one sided for me to be able to believe that Godzilla could win if he was at full power. I mean the only hit Godzilla ever got in was when him and Kong worked together and dragged MechaGodzilla through a skyscraper.
@@blazegamer1007 That is really becoming the "Superman always holds back" excuse of Godzilla in these debates. I mean by that same metric. Mecha was not even really complete so do we give Mecha an equally unknowable modifier to account for him being incomplete vs complete
Okay I watched it and I'm surprised you didn't mention the scene with Godzilla on all fours. That was a scary af scene to have godzilla behave like a lizard. I'd say Mecha would win most of the rounds, and Godzilla would have to be extra careful if he was fighting underwater against Mecha. It would more or less be the fight between him and kong, but Godzilla would be the one escaping.
@@supershadow125 what about u know the under water pressure for me ha since he made of metal just asking if he drags him deep down would that potentially damage mecha (just asking)
@@supershadow125 well Mecha dragging Godzilla into the deep part of the ocean, I don't see that happening cuz, Godzilla can survive in the ocean + I think that even fighting underwater, Godzilla would win cuz he is 2× agile and stronger in the ocean. It's Godzilla's domain and he has more fighting experience!
I love how this mecha Godzilla combines all my favorite elements into one, its built around the consciousness of a powerful titan like Kiyru but its the mind of a villain like the original mecha g was.
Your forgetting that how Godzilla can use the atomic pulse while normal, also the pulse never came from mothra! He had always had it. Proved in Godzilla comic thing!
Idk if I completely agree, for starters at full power, godzilla could blast through the crust and mantle of the earth with one breath, if that blast hit mechagodzilla, I do believe the mecha would die. There is also the point that I don't believe godzilla has reached his full power yet as we have yet to witness his red spiral breath.
I think yes if he’s fighting base mecha, if Ghidorah is controlling, no matter how strong Goji is, Kevin will prevail. he knows how to counter every single move Godzilla has to throw. It would be a slaughter fight. There’s almost no difficulty for Kevin.
Lets just say, If Kong had not been involved in the movie, Godzilla would have found MechaG before they got the Hollow Earth energy recipe. And Mecha G was only hitting about 40% capacity at that time. It wouldn't have even been a close match. With a single blast of its red photon beam, Mecha G shut down from lack of power. Any prolonged combat with Godzilla (using the plasma hits, the missiles, the jet boosters) would have seen the mech shut down and be helplessly destroyed by Godzilla. Kong really screws big G over in this movie. Guess it makes sense he would help G clean up the mess he is directly responsible for helping create.
Lot of people are getting Wingard’s and Krichevsky’s words mixed up. Wingard said that at full power Godzilla would have won the beam battle and the overall fight may have played out differently. Krichevsky said that at full power Godzilla could beat Mechagodzilla but just barely. Neither one of them said Godzilla is guaranteed to win.
I don't think that statement really says goji could won the beam as he said ' at one shot where Godzilla and Mechagodzilla fire thier beams at each other and Mechagodzilla actually overpowers Godzilla and i don't think that would be the same case if Godzilla was comming in fresh I think he was weakened a bit ' this could be mean he is talking about the overall fight would be played differently not the beam fight and even if you say that beam fight will play differently it doesn't mean Atomic Breath will win against Proton Scream as it doesn't mention goji will win it just say that wouldn't be same case so it can be a draw or the other beam wins against another
I mean, they did said Goji would win within an inch of his life Which makes sense, as he was still able to get up and endure a fight from MechaG when he was extremely tired Although an "inch of his life" doesn´t mean he is vastly superior, it means Godzilla and MechaGodzilla truthly are equals, which was what Ren ultimately wanted
Great analysis of it all and I agree to it all but there's a small key factor your mainly forgot to input it into the equation, if Kong didn't go to hollow earth then mech-G would still be scrapped metal and a wasted project, apart from the your whole aspect to this was spot on
If the filmmakers understood and were paying tribute to the Mechagodzillas of the past, than yes, Legendary Mechagodzilla would have beaten full-powered Godzilla. From the Showa to Reiwa, Godzilla either received help from humans or other kaiju, or he pulled a new power out of his ass, in order to defeat Mechagodzilla. Perhaps the most even fight I've seen between the two occurred in Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla (2002) and its sequel.
"If the filmmakers understood and were paying tribute to the Mechagodzillas of the past, than yes, Legendary Mechagodzilla would have beaten full-powered Godzilla" Wouldn't it be a shame if a director just so happened to have the power of bias?
I think the only way Godzilla could have defeated Apex's MechaGodzilla is if he was fresh and fully powered with energy. Plus if Godzilla was able to use that enormous nuclear energy blast that he used to Kill King Ghidorah at the King Of The Monsters film from 2019, he would be able to Kill MechaGodzilla.
Man I really hate when people say that MG would win just because he was made to kill Godzilla. In GKM the oxygen destroyer was also meant to kill him but guess what it didn't and every previous version MG who was also designed to kill Godzilla wasn't able to because at that time because Godzilla was at max power. At first Godzilla was hibernating and it's been proven that Titans get weaker after hibernation after that Godzilla swam across the world, fought Kong, destroyed cities,used his ultimate atomic breath to blast a hole into hollow earth and this weakend him alot he then fought with Kong for 12 hours and then came MG who was at max power so I definitely think Godzilla would've won if he was at full power
@Ken Thomas yeah because both of those versions were op against that Godzilla.The American Godzilla can also beat both of them and also you can't still deny seeing after Godzilla was not going down and how durable he was in his battle with MG he would've beaten him if he wasn't tired of all of that fight with Kong
What if they failed to get the hollow earth energy for mechagodzilla? Well I think mecha would lose even with the hollow earth energy but cool video I just think Godzilla would be WAY harder to kill if he was fresh. Took multiple hits from mechagodzilla and kept getting back up, holded a beam clash and mecha needed to charge up his beam just to overcome the beam clash, insane durability, had 3 fights with Kong and still won the last fight with 50 percent power (too lazy to type more if there's more things I can think of)
I believe Godzilla at full potential could have won if when they clashed beams he used more energy than when he made a hole to the hollow earth and could have destroyed the head of Mecha G
Hey Chuck love your vids, hope you read this, could you please make a video on Sauron and morgoth from the legendarium of Tolkien. Or the Valar and Mayar as a whole.
That version of Godzilla that went nuclear against Ghidorah was over the top. It literally melted buildings so I'd have to believe it would reduce Mecha to nothing but ash.
But that version is with a lot of outside help. Mostly a Nuke directly to the face to charge him and Mothra adding their radiation to speed up Burning Mode before it could bleeding off. If we are allowing outside help than of course Godzilla would win but thats kind of not a 1v1
I believe that one of the filmmakers said in an interview that Godzilla might have beaten mechagodzilla if he was at full strength but I can’t remember where it was said or where I saw it. All I remember is that it was said, somewhere. Now, who do you think would win between mechagodzilla and ghidorah?
MechaGodzilla would win 6/10 against Chidorah, i mean Godzilla at full power had a fair chance against Ghidorah in the movie and held itself decently before it got hit by Oxygen Destroyer even tho Ghidorah was more powerful Godzilla at that said moment had the advantage in the water, MechaGodzilla is not only stronger than Godzilla at full power but its faster, adapts very quickly and has infinte stamina basically its Godzilla 2.0 not to mention that it can fight equally as good in the water just as on land. So without any human interuption and in a fair 1v1 fight MechaG takes this.
@@ILrukiamaxim55 Yeah, you could also make the argument that ghidorah could just fly and fire it’s gravity beams at a safe distance, destroying any incoming missiles and avoiding mechaG’s beams. It would still probably end in mechaG winning due to stamina but I could see and argument for ghidorah if it plays it safe
@@-Hikaru._.Tykon- True but i dont think Ghidorahs pride would allow this tactic since Ghidorah thinks that it is the strongest there is, so that kinda would be out of character for Ghidorah.
Despite everyone saying, "Godzilla wasn't at full power, he would've won if Kong hadn't been involved" I still feel that Mechagodzilla would've won; he was LITERALLY DESIGNED to kill Godzilla. Granted, the fight would have been far less one-sided, but I feel Mechagodzilla would've come out on top in the end.
To be fair, Mecha Godzilla was currently a work in progress, I'd say the current monster verse Mecha would of failed, maybe if they managed to install more weapons onto it then it could serve it's purpose.
Okay so I haven’t watch the video yet. But I’m pretty sure that the reason Godzilla couldn’t beat MechaGodzilla by himself, is because Godzilla was tired after drilling a hole into the middle of the earth and fighting Kong. And Godzilla had no idea on who MechaGodzilla was because it’s not a real kaiju. So that’s why Godzilla wasn’t able to beat MechaGodzilla by himself. Edit: btw MechaGodzilla knew who Godzilla was because it was king ghidorah aka monster zero controlling MechaGodzilla, so MechaGodzilla knew Godzilla’s weaknesses and attacks.
I heard that Godzilla was exhausted from fighting kong and using all his power to make the hollow earth. If he was at full power then the fight will be very close.
Godzilla was definitely dealing with some form of fatigue, had a huge wound on his left thigh, and literally turned around to fight Mechagodzilla, leaving Kong on his back!!! That was definitely a handicapped match. And for those to try and say Mechagodzilla was not fully aware of his potential... 1. He is a freakin machine with a computer system for a brain!!!! 2. The only thing keeping him from full power was the energy signature problem which was corrected before his fight! Godzilla definitely would've had a way better showing if he only fought Mechagodzilla from the start
Awesome video! You should make a Mecha-Godzilla Weakest to Strongest video! So we see if legendary would stand a chance against previous incarnations of the mechanical beast!
My opinion is that even if Godzilla was full strength he would have lost. For one, we've never really seen Godzilla be fatigued, in any of his movies, and just because the director says he was exhausted, it doesn't carry much weight for me, or the source material, not to mention Godzilla's cells constantly regenerate so who's to say he wasn't already full power at least physically, perhaps not radioactively. Also, narratively speaking it wouldn't make sense if he was weaker than a full powered Godzilla because they probably would have mentioned it at some point, if that was his handicap or reason for losing. Plus, the director didn't say he would have won if he was full powered anyhow. Let's not forget too, that historically Mechagodzilla has been stronger than Godzilla (or non amped). They have had 5 encounters prior to this one, and Godzilla has only beaten Mechagodzilla on his own one time, in 1975, which was going to be his final movie plus he had already killed him in the last movie, knowing his weaknesses and learning his fighting style. In fact, Mechagodzilla is the only kaiju to legit kill Godzilla, in the Heisei era he did kill Godzilla, he destroyed his heart, only Rodan revived him, but yeah, he killed him no tricks, no team ups, no other kaiju has done that Legendary Godzilla is badass and insanely strong, but so are the antagonists. It took Kong, Godzilla, humans, and a mystical amped battle axe from hollow earth to beat him, In my eyes the narrative is telling us he is the strongest. I do however think Godzilla would win under water, and of course if he is in his burning state
So you never seen Godzilla go to sleep at the end of 2014 in the middle of the city as he was shattered. The Oxygen destroyer depleted all his energy as well in KOTM. He clearly has energy levels and he used a lot before he fought MG.
"My opinion is that even if Godzilla was full strength he would have lost" vs. "I do however think Godzilla would win under water, and of course if he is in his burning state"
@@erasaesvaranrajkumar2017 first one he was winning Ghidorah after that powered up and his power up even hurt goji and made ghidorah stronger and in better shape before it which is why he got the upper hand
Most of the creative team, when asked on social media, have said base Godzilla would win basically by a hair. Wingard went out of his way to confirm that Mecha G’s punches weren’t capable of doing any actual damage to Godzilla, and he also cast doubt on Mecha’s kiss of death actually being able to finish the job. What we see in the movie makes it look like Mecha G was doing a lot more than it canonically was, predicated on the fact that Goji was very tired and low on energy during the conflict.
Thanks for watching fellas! For the people saying that "the director said he would win/ would win easily". That was NEVER said. All Adam Wingard said was that he believed Godzilla was weakened and that the battle might have gone differently/ he might have won. There's a HUGE difference between saying "he might win/the battle would have gone differently" and "he would have won." All he said was that the battle was more up in the air. He never definitively said Godzilla would win. Please don't twist people's words to make an argument, lol.
Yes please 👌🏻
Sounds interesting
Im not educated about it but if you want to why not? Also i love watching The Big G man videos you been posting keep up the great work!😎
How powerful is Uranus from Greek / Roman mythology ?
id watch it but idk how many other people would
I love watching Godzilla movies and just shutting off my brain watching big kaiju punch but there's something about these videos I just can't get enough of.
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How powerful is a golem from a movie of gollum ?
@@Chuck join me and we can rule the world
Yeah chucks Godzilla videos are better still love the others but this is just peak performance 🎭 for my boy
If we’re going by narrative, then Mechagodzilla would be squarely in the antagonist role given how (if I remember the movie correctly) it’s creation was what made Godzilla behave more violently, and was at least part of the reason they brought Kong along with them
Yeah ur right
Your completely right, sure it doesn’t sound the best to some people but to me it completely sets up why Godzilla and Kong had conflict with each other in the movie,
Precisely because he sensed Ghidorah's presence and came to finish the job and ended up finding Ghidorah in a mechanized godzilla suit
The brought kong to get them to the hollow earth, everything after that was godzilla challenging kong that why he blasted the a hole down to the hollow earth that's when kong jumped down.
Base Godzilla: Could go either way
Burning/Thermo Nuclear Godzilla: Hahahahahahaha Mecha Goes Boom
Thermo: *ALLAHU AKBAR*
@A u s t i n fair, legendary can only go thermo if he takes in more nuclear radiation then his body can take.
Yeah no, burning Godzilla isn't something Goji can just turn on and off, it's not super saiyan, he needs mothra's energy to trigger it, as we saw in King of the monsters
@@kingkurok3149 He dosent need mothra energy you clearly don’t understand how Godzilla went thermonuclear. Godzilla upon getting nuked was buffed and was reaching critical levels of radiation mothra dying gave him her radiation as well speeding up the burning process. All Godzilla has to do to go burning is absorb large amounts of radiation for example like from the hollow earth lair he has.
@@Aacezay and if the writers want him to, which is 50/50
It’s been pretty much confirmed at this point to be a 50/50, Wingard literally says he has no idea who’d win and originally had tired Godzilla in GvK having a back and forth battle with mg.
wow I wasn't expecting you to be here lol
yep
No lmao. It's a massacre in favor of Mecha. You can't just create a Robotic Kaiju that's literally a counter to Godzilla in every single way, and then call it a 50-50.
@@prehistoriccreature1800 tell that to Mr. Wingard, staff the worked on GvK, and some lore. More actually points to Godzilla winning in most battles than MG.
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I don't care what they say. If that's what they're implying, then they destroyed their own points while making the movie itself LMAO.
There is the rumor of how mechagodzilla was based on 2014 godzillas strenght and weaknesses therefore not counting on the upgrade he got in king of the monsters or his further power development in gvsk
I used to think that mechagodzilla was built from the remains of the 2014 Godzilla.
@@elijahbaker781 Man what
@@topsnek1375 well I used to think that 2014 Godzilla died after he swam away after the fight with the mutos but thankfully I was wrong.
@@topsnek1375 because the original mechagodzilla was created from the remains of the original Godzilla so I thought they were goin to do it again.
@@elijahbaker781 the original mechagodzilla was built by alien monkey men (not joking btw) the only mecha godzilla built from bones of godzilla is most commonly called Kiryu or Mechagodzilla 3. It was present in two movies Godzilla against Mechagodzilla, amd Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S.
How Godzilla behaved differently around Kong and MechaGodzilla was quite revealing. With Kong, Godzilla paced himself like a seasoned vet and seemed to be daydreaming about future fights with more experienced fighters. But when MechaGodzilla showed up? Godzilla went into a full rage-sprint! As for whether or not Godzilla could beat MechaGodzilla at full strength? That's difficult to say. MechaGodzilla shares Godzilla's power source, meaning MG's energy is equivalent to Big G. As Chuck noted in his ALPHA analysis, the novel states MG is faster and stronger than Godzilla (which made the situation direr because Godzilla was severely worn out), but that doesn't mean we'd declare MG victorious by default. Could MG withstand Godzilla's Super Atomic Breath? Probably not. So the question is can Godzilla buy enough time to power up and unleash atomic oblivion? That's what this comes down to. MG has the strength, speed, and weapons to bludgeon Godzilla into submission. It looks like it could go either way. Basically, whosoever screws up first shall possess the shame of defeat.
Honestly, I can't help but speculate that the ambiguity on who'd really win was intentional. Like, sequel hook-intentional if you know what I mean. Great video, Chuck!
Thank you very much!
@@Chuck Anytime, my man! Your content is great. Keep up the solid work!
That’s a good catch. Godzilla probably lowered his BIQ by getting too emotional eventually being forced into a supporting role for Kong rather than Kong supporting him. Either way, if Godzilla could land a clean hit with max power atomic breathe then he’ll win
It's 50/50 imo if it's base Godzilla. Any other added power ups like in KOM.. Mecha would melt like cheese lol
Facts lol
Or BUTTER
MG21 was confirmed that he could handle around 5 seconds if he was pinned to the ground and the hollow breath was used, so if Godzilla hit him like he did with Kong with his breath, it would just leave a scratch.
@@LocalBuffoon not really a scratch since it’s only 5 secs but not anything serious either so like slowly chip off tiny pieces mecha
@@Meta.Muncher, eh the director isn’t always right, it could be longer.
Because I mean, Kong got right back up after Godzilla hit him with his atomic breath.
MechaG reminds me of a glass cannon, but more intense
like a toilet paper Ballistic Missile, since we saw Ghidorah tank some sustained atomic breath without suffering any damage in KOTM
Toilet paper ballistic missiles is my new favorite rpg class
His atomic breath was less powerful in Kotm than in 2021, its way less condensed
@@Sushidog2005 This is canonically false. After being nuked in KOTM, Godzilla’s atomic breath is canonically the strongest variant in the Monsterverse so far and is even more powerful than when he drilled a hole into the hollow earth.
My boy chuck never disappoints with his great content
Thank you!
Greetings my name is teleportdinero
@@The_Hokage •__•
Even if they made Godzilla "villain" I still rooted him on lmao, he's my boy, ever since king of monsters I have emotional attachment to him
Short answer: yes. Godzilla got hit by the fully charged axe and it barely sunk into his leg. Mechagodzilla was ripped apart by hits by an axe with potentially less charge. Add that to Godzilla being fatigued and still managing to stand up to MG even briefly and I would say they would be close to even, but Godzilla would outlast Mechagodzilla while he stacks the damage bit by bit on the mech. This is even without creator statements on the fight and capabilities of both since the movie came out like the designer of Mechagodzilla saying MG couldn't take sustained blasts of Godzilla's breath.
Again, good video. Like the Godzilla content. You should do a Mechagodzilla vs Ghidorah or even Kong vs other kaiju.
Wtf? Mecha godzilla was designed to kill godzilla bro
Lel
@@artisticdinosaur4194 bruh gojira/godzilla was HELLA weak if he was full power he would have manhandled mecha and then finished of kong while he was unconscious
So godzilla would have won by natures side
“Humans can never surpass nature”
-me
@@secoTheSonicFan bruh its the Japanese name for “godzilla”
@@averagedoseofTSB it was the original name and just cause something is built to kill another thing u can’t just deny the evidence given that the other thing would be able to win lore can’t prove everything sometimes
@@Meta.Muncher I know what ur trying to say but its basic logic here
I believe that a fresh base Godzilla would probably be able to beat Mecha Godzilla with a high amount of difficulty and it would by no means be an easy battle. Thermonuclear Godzilla would likely just melt Mecha Godzilla at the temperatures he would be putting out. The pulse he shoots out in that form could also likely act as a sort of EMP and either fully shut down Mecha G, or severely mess with its abilities in a simmilar fashion as to what happened in the movie with the human's help.
true someone with a good argument. it would be extremely hard for Godzilla to win, but will just barely win against mecha
Not even in dreams cry 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Thermo nuclear Godzilla is basically a nuke. So he would create an EMP but it wouldn’t be as affective as an actual nuke. But it wouldn’t matter the temperatures would be so extreme it would melt mechs in one or 2 shots
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Still can't beat mecha Godzilla
Cry about it
Mecha better, you need a reality check
“Classified as the most powerful titan overall”
Destroyah: right
By Monsterverse standards
True, but if he came to the mv. Yea chances are he gonna lose that title
Wonder if that's what's next?
I mean they did use an oxygen destroyer in KoM so the framework is there.
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I fell like Mechagodzilla's speed and agility would still push Godzilla to his limit even at full power. Don't see how Godzilla would be able to keep up with his speed and his beam can also damage Godzilla. The battle would be longer but Godzilla would have to strategized a new way to beat him and if he chooses to stick to close combat he'll lose.
godzilla isnt exactly a strategist either. he can find a way to kill most enemies, but mechagodzilla was designed specifically just for him, he mightve been too much
@@stevenwoods5787 Godzilla would need human help
@@frivolousarguments8578 yeah historically Godzilla would normally need help to bring down Mech G.
@@frivolousarguments8578 humans cant barely get godzillas attention, what can we do against something thats stronger than him
@@stevenwoods5787 blow up the apex HQ? unless mechagodzilla can function indepentedly from the skull now that might actually just shut him down
I think the reason that Kong with the axe did so much damage is the fact that the axe is hitting a smaller area, it's not being evenly dispersed across the body. Similar to a window smasher. Putting all that strength into one point does more damage. And I think in raw physical strength Kong may be stronger than Godzilla.
It seems the axe is a strong conductor of energy from what material was made of, that is why being exposed in atomic breath will greatly increase its power that any kaiju that is not even 100% at strength can deal devastating damage
no kong is physical stronger bcs godzilla could stable his body even when he get punch to the face but kong cant do it godzilla threw kong but kong cant throw godzilla . godzilla would have won if he wasnt tired and if he didnt do the hollow earth beam bcs hollow earth beam took 80 percent of his power
@Rice What. Godzilla is 100,000 tons. Kong 2021 is 70,000 tons at best. The director of the movie himself said that if godzilla wasnt tired he would put a better fight and win
@Rice Mg21 is a weakling. Kong is a weakling. Mv kong is the strongest version of kong but lost to one of the weakest version of godzilla.
Mv Godzilla is the strongest Godzilla I thought meh whatev
Hey Chuck, I recently watched your collab video with Jaymes Hanson about Mugetsu, I really loved how you two kinda analysed the Depth of Tite Kubo's poetic writing. I guess you'll agree when I say that BLEACH is one of the Poetic genius . It's just that readers have to understand the layers rather than just reading on a surface level. :-💕
Definitely a lot of complexities and symbolism that the characters & the story have.
@@Chuck yup. Loved your work Mann.
@@Chuck Can you leave a link to that video thanks.
@@mkzero7461 greetings it is i
No. Since mechagodzilla didn’t have the jazz theme from showa he don’t deserve to win
Lmao!
You have a very good point. Jazz makes Mechs god it seems.
Based
Mechagodzilla: *plays the og theme on some loud speakers*
Godzilla: OH SHIT NO?
Kong: huh what wrong??
Godzilla: it’s his ass kicking theme we’re dead!!
I personally don't agree because of a few reasons that I can think of but the fact that you're so chill and not toxic whenever explaining why you think Mecha Godzilla would win still is enough to make me actually feel like hearing this out.
Like I'm glad I'm able to find someone that I can disagree with that isn't being super duper toxic and just overhyping the kind you that they are talking about.
Not for my reasons why I think Godzilla would still win.
Keep in mind I am taking from all monsterverse Godzilla media at least a little bit because even though there are parts that are largely not canon certain things like kaijudu durability or feats are still Canon at least until they go back and rewrite certain things after all even the film seem to slightly alter the continuity each time a new one releases.
Terms of raw physical strength it is confirmed that Mechagodzilla isn't actually stronger than Godzilla he's only really faster and is able to stay a step ahead in terms of combat so long as it's something that Godzilla has done before if anything they even slightly hint to the fact that Godzilla might be physically stronger both before and after this film though it's not by a whole whole lot (like that time that Godzilla lifted 130,000 tons with his energy draining out and his spine partially damaged which is already really close to the amount of weight that Mecca Godzilla was throwing around which is about 90,000 tuns)
In terms of durability Godzilla also takes this again Michael Godzilla is still able to utilize his battle intelligence but he's only made of titanium with some sort of tungsten alloyed over the surface of his body that means anything that titanium can be destroyed by if you can get through mechagodzillas thin shield coatings will also easily destroy Mechagodzilla. This means for instance if Godzilla were to stomp on Mecca Godzilla's tale somehow this would break it right off the 90,000 ton weight combined with Godzilla's great strength would be enough to easily crush titanium in spite of having a very high durability because like I've just mentioned it's possible that Godzilla is physically stronger than Mecha Godzilla even if it's just by a little.
There's also the fact that it's confirmed Mecha Godzilla can only survive short-term blasts of Godzilla's regular atomic breath before his outer coating gets destroyed. And titanium itself melts at only slightly over 1,000 degrees Celsius.
This means that if Godzilla decide to use the hollow Earth breath on Mechagodzilla not only would he win the beam battle but if you actually do the calculations the hollow Earth breath would have to be as hot or at the very least comparable to the heat of the sun to be able to incinerate all the materials that could be found underground in China without there being so much lava and flags at on both sides of the Hollow Earth tunnel he created.
So of course I'm pretty sure that with the hollow Earth breath he could just shoot off and make a Godzilla's head and call it a day.
This doesn't mean that Mecca Godzilla doesn't stain the chance due to being a comparable strength that Godzilla as well as being faster and having a proton screen that's similar in power to Godzilla's regular atomic breath he stands a pretty good chance after all instead of being super powerful guys every single one of Godzilla's kryptonites in mind but this doesn't mean that there's no chance for Godzilla to win.
Basically put Godzilla's first time fighting Mecha Godzilla make a Godzilla has a big enough advantage that he could win but if Godzilla survives the encounter and learns that he needs to use the hollow Earth breath and full power then Godzilla would win.
@@memyselfandijo2526 pretty much sums up how I think full power Legendary godzilla would fare against Mecha G.
Oh yeah now we're talking.
One of my favorite power scalers is here and boy is he packing.
Thank you!
This movies Mecha quickly became one of my favorite iterations. He just came in and stole the show as soon as he was introduced. I also liked Kong in this movie, poor man just wanted to be left alone.
Loving these Godzilla videos Chuck! Keep up the great work!
Much appreciated!
"2014 was an big year for the monsterverse". Yeah I'd rank the big bang as pretty important
Lmao yea coming back after a decade of nothingness is pretty big
Personally, I believe Godzilla would have won the battle given both the King and the Mech were in their top conditions.
Firstly, Godzilla is way more resistant than Mech. We could assume this basing on the fact, that Mech was heavily damaged by the Kongs axe even though Godzillas atomic breath was very weak at the end of the battle. Meanwhile, a fully charged axe, powered by both Hollow earth energy and Godzillas full power atomic breath, still could not penetrate big G's armour plates.
Consequently, Godzilla's full power atomic blast would have sliced Mech's armour easily, whereas Mechs lazer beam could not cut through G's scales.
Secondly, a full powered Godzilla would not concede in speed and agility, as he was able to easily chase and catch Kong during the battle being already exhausted.
Obviously, given Gojira is as agile as Mech, more resistant than Mech and has more powerful energy beam, he would have overpowered him in a close combat
Godzilla was never close to matching Kong or Mecha's speed I do not know where you are pulling that Godzilla becomes the flash at 100% but its wrong. Mecha was faster and more agile, not to mention able to move his limbs in ways Godzilla cannot. Mecha can't cut through Godzilla's hide well I agree. But He didn't really need too given how he was clearly going to kill Godzilla with a beam through the mouth.
Godzilla tossed around the Mutos which weighed about 60,000 tons when he weighed around 90K tons. In GvK he weighed closer to 100K and we know he didn't toss around Ghidorah he blew him over with his pulse attack and then stepped on him. Mecha was dragging Godzilla around like he was a doll at one point it looked like Godzilla was off the ground as he was swung around through buildings. Mecha has the edge in terms of Strength as we have never seen Godzilla use his strength like that on comparable weight.
Mecha also has edge in speed as well as we see him moving around far more agile than Godzilla. To be fair Godzilla is not very fast normally.
Godzilla has the edge in durability for sure, 100% but being a tank is not that great when the other guy can toss you around and you can't defend yourself.
Godzilla at full power's beam would be stronger this is true, but if Mecha can avoid it he can definitely make Godzilla's day a rough one. Mecha can't withstand a persistent beam from Godzilla this is true but even Kong survived a glancing blow with no lasting damage. I do believe Mecha's beam could hurt Godzilla is fired down through the mouth, at tissue that is not armored. So its a close fight but I think Mecha still wins because he could basically just wrestle Godzilla to the ground and wait for him to stop beaming before firing one down his gullet for the win.
Kong was the deciding factor in that fight because his weapon and agility were not taken into account in the design. He was hooking spots and slicing tubes and wires easily and he was able to wrench Mecha in ways Godzilla physically cannot do. Mecha was designed to fight Godzilla so was not designed to handle "What if a giant ape wrenched its head back in this way"
TheLastSane1 here said tons of facts, but let me correct you on a couple of things:
1st- Yes, Godzilla's throat isn't armored, but it is used to let nukes' radiation pass through without internal bleeding or overheating or cooked flesh, so i'm with you on the fact that Mechagodzilla's kiss of death would've killed Godzilla but just keep in mind that Godzilla's throat still has some insane durability and regeneration.
2nd- Godzilla has stronger legs than MechaG but weaker arms, yes, but remember that Goji carried Muto Prime and tossed Ghidorah as one of his first moves in the Boston battle, a titan that weighs 141'000 tons tossed (also using body momentum but still impressive) like nothing, so once again i agree with you but remember that Godzilla's arms are really strong.
3rd- Overall i agree on most of the things that you said and i also think that Mechagodzilla would've won 1v1 even if Godzilla was in top shape, you're really good at speaking Kaiju facts and being careful at the details of fights that might avoid a misconception or a misunderstanding, let me know what you think
He didn't even use his tail which could be one of the most dangerous weapons which wasn't mentioned. The legs would not be able to be used in battle as for hitting unless mecha was on the ground flat, although mostly likely still stronger. You guys are better than me at this stuff, you're like experts in my pov.@@MonsterVerse_scientist-CnlDscr
CYBERNETIC ROBOT WILL WIN.. METAL TRUMPS FLESH
@@MonsterVerse_scientist-CnlDscr Godzilla fullcharge would melt MechaG, Godzilla is pretty much nerfed on GvK to level it down with kong, He still has thermonuclear mode but probably less powerful than KOTM, but i still think with 100% of his energy he should be able to spam less powerful thermonuclear pulse but would be enough to melt sa metals in MG, he did spam thermonuclear pulse while fighting Muto Prime, so that shouldn't be discounted
I'd love more Monsterverse content, you did a great job with this breakdown!
Thanks! Will do!
Narratively speaking, this Mechagodzilla seems like he was designed to win in a Solo fight. The concept seemingly from the beginning was King Kong and Godzilla versus Mechagodzilla. It would take both to win. Again, just based on what the movie seems to depict in the story.
that’s what i thought too. imo mechagodzilla would’ve beaten both weakened kong and godzilla (without humans saving them) with ease but if he faced both of them at 100% power he’d be overwhelmed
also forgot to add i think he’d beat either of them at full power if it was a 1v1
@@TwocanToucan I would point out that Mecha was not said to be 100% complete he was still in testing phase right? It was not the plan for him to fight Godzilla just yet but they where going to try. So what would a completed Mecha look like? Could it take on both?
TheLastSane1 with how badly godzilla got beaten by an uncomplete mechagodzilla, i think so
@@TwocanToucan godzilla was technically really tired of consecutive fights and travelling all over the world, aswell being hunted all throughout the movie without rest aswell as wasting soo much energy blasting a hole through the center of the earth, and spamming breaths, easy to say he was far from his best state, and yet he tanked much more hits, Godzilla would outlast Mecha in a fight, not considering the fact that mecha seems more fragile which is why he was given speed.
The whole movie was to have Godzilla work up until he was running low fuel. Thus, depowering a god so the mechanic titan can have a so all fair fight against the real G-man.
It wasn’t really that fair tho
hes not a literal god...
Go cry lmao. Your lizard is nothing against Mechagodzilla
@@prehistoriccreature1800 I don’t know what your problem is but you need therapy
@@prehistoriccreature1800 as if your ape is,he would have got a drill on his face by mechagodzilla if humans and godzilla didn't help
Here was hoping Ren would live. He could’ve had a daughter who loses her life to an illness. Then Ren may have used Godzilla’s DNA and a rare flower. To create Biolante.
That would have been pretty cool!
Too bad Ren got sync with Ghidorah Hardrive so maybe in the future will be causing more troubles
@@akai9-ball404 seemed like he was pretty much dead after the whole electrocution. Shame though, he had a lot of potential to be a great character.
Who knows, maybe Mark loses Maddie and thumbs the bill to have her either revived or cloned and they need Godzilla and the whole flower thing, creating biollante.
@@wasafella4260 yeah that’d be a interesting turn. Considering we’ve followed their journey from king of the monsters to GVK.
The biggest advantages mecha godzilla had in the movie, were godzilla being weakened, and it knowing what godzilla could do, while godzilla didn't know what it could do
The burning form Godzilla showed in the king of monsters was actually a last line of defense for his species. It called radioactive pulse which uses his atomic breath to generate extreme heat across his skin and dorsal fin.
The answer: absolutely. Kong’s interference is the only reason Big G man didn’t wipe the floor with MechaG
True cause godzilla could just go beast mode like what he did with kong and I reckon a 120,000 tonn titan going really fast and hard on mg21 he would stand a chance
I do think that if Godzilla was at full power, he would have defeated mechagodzilla, albeit with much difficulty. Godzilla is a representation of nature while mechagodzilla is a representation of technology. No matter what advances in technology humanity achieves, humanity can't control or surpass forces of nature. Plus Godzilla's atomic breath which reached the hollow earth surpassed mechagodzilla's beam by far.
Godzilla's breath was inconsistent in GvK.
@@frivolousarguments8578 I respectfully disagree. Godzilla's atomic breath towards the hollow earth was most likely at maximum power, and it was confirmed that Godzilla lost some power after that. Adam Wingard also confirmed that Godzilla was not taking Kong seriously until after Kong used the axe to slam Godzilla with his own energy from his atomic breath.
Although, mecha g didn't use his tail which could be way more lethal than the other weapons, also being if they did beam clash, mecha Godzilla can disorient with missiles. **Most likely**@@StareachValcin
Humanity has the potential to become its own force of nature.
Exhibit A. A Nuclear Bomb, it is literally a force of nature in every way but origin.
He lost a lot of power
Fought kong, so many atomic breaths and people forgot he was continuously fighting titans for years after KOTM and never rested
Truly the best Godzilla analysis on TH-cam :)
Much appreciated!
Chuck:mechagodzilla represents caputalism
Me:ayo hol up im pretty sure we missed a few steps here
Mecha was designed to specifically target godzilla and had everything to counter the beast even at it’s full powered state… but Godzilla has insane durability and tenacity… he has been here for millions of years, nature already created a perfect counter to Godzilla MUTO & MUTO prime, they gave him a tough time but this Godzilla came out on top by sheer tenacity .. Mecha would’ve run out of energy and his body would eventually give up… I doubt that his energy beam would just vaporise Godzilla, if that were the case, humans would just create a big ass canon with that energy beam, instead of designing this massive complicated machine… it’s not like Godzilla is hard to be shot at
Lore wise.
Godzilla resembles Gia better. ( The living consciousness of the world)
Mothra is more of a Alaya ( Protector of the human race)
In King of the Monsters. The director said that Godzilla had Ghidorah beat in the past and that's why Ghidorah was frozen in the ice. Also the director stated that in the water fight, Godzilla would have killed Ghidorah without human interference. A fully powered Godzilla would have been a much different fight against Mechagodzilla. Be at least a 50/50 fight on land. If it was a sea battle, Godzilla wins 9 out of 10. If Godzilla went thermo... Godzilla would win 10 out of 10 times... Mechagodzilla looked and sounded amazing though.
The Designer stated Godzilla at full power would beat MechaGodzilla, and plus His punches weren’t doing any damages at all to a weaken Godzilla, the only thing that was able to do some sort of Damage to Godzilla was his Proton scream. Adam also said it would be a back and forth except the Beam Clash
yeah “some sort of damage” sent him flying and left him with a giant scorch mark, and with only 3 seconds of contact. Mg21 is built to defeat him and has him beat in many categories, Godzilla at full power wouldn’t defeat him
@@user-mc3if9xs7w bruh, his punches weren’t doing jack shit to Godzilla, He’s fighting an exhausted Godzilla, and yet he wasn’t able to make him bleed, the only thing that Damaged him was His Proton Scream. He needed to use more power to over power a 50% Godzilla in a beam clash. At full Power MechaGodzilla would only last 3.1 seconds against Godzilla’s Atomic Breath. He may have gotten thrash around building’s anf dragged to the floor, still no blood, scratches. bruises nothing.
@ because his punches aren’t meant to damage him on the outside, they’re meant to internally damage him and wear him down. MG21 has endless energy as stated in the novel so Godzilla hasn’t a hope in the world of defeating him even in the beam clash let alone a melee battle. Endless energy, he can literally fight forever while Godzilla can only fight for a limited time, and since he’s a mechanical entity he doesn’t have the flaws of an actual titan. not to mention the missiles also easily stun him as shown so say he’s charging up his atomic breath, missiles will stun him out of it. Mg21 literally blitzed him and got behind him before Godzilla even realized so. He’s got the speed, strength, and quite frankly the durability to take him on. Since he easily shrugged off Godzilla throwing his entire body at him, and getting slammed through a building by both kong and Godzilla without a scratch on him. He counters him in every way.
and the designer also said mg21 weighs 1 trillion tons. Do you also take that as canon? The movie outright states him to be his superior and it’s very evident.
@@user-mc3if9xs7w bruh, I’ve seen the calcs and feats, statements, Godzilla would win against MechaGodzilla, he got pushed back by Godzilla when they tackled each other, and needed weapons to get a weakened Kong & Godzilla off of him, a weaken Godzilla was over powering him, and the director stated he visualize a 50% Godzilla going back and forth with MechaGodzilla, and even said a beaten down Godzilla could still come back. Godzilla is physically stronger & more durable than MechaGodzilla. There’s even statements from a Japanese Guide book stating GvK Godzilla is weaker than the 2014 Godzilla, and the novel starte Godzilla has not gotten any rest because he kept sensing Ghidorah. The director even stated a full power Godzilla would win in a beam clash. His plasma punches weren’t able to make him gag out blood, or spit out blood. So no MechaGodzilla would not beat a full Power MechaGodzilla.
@ gvk Godzilla is not weaker than 2014. Not sure where you got that from. Godzilla patrolled for 2 years, and slept for 3 years feeding on radiation. He is nowhere near as slow or as weak as g14. For the last time, mechagodzillas punches are made to wear him out, damage him internally, and stun him.
also, what is your point of “he needed weapons to get kong and Godzilla off of him”? He just played it smart, stunned Godzilla for a moment, threw kong, bashed Godzilla. Mechagodzilla threw kong with little to no effort, and dragged Godzilla along with throwing him through an entire building. all of my points are in the other one above, I’m not repeating myself.
Adam wingard is a Godzilla fanboy, what do you expect from him? And that’s retconned because as I stated before, endless energy. Godzilla has limited energy. Connect the dots m8.
How come you and Seth The Programmer don't make any videos together anymore?
Following for interest.
@@MisogynyMan what does 'following for interest' mean
Following for interest
It’s always a good day when chuck uploads
Chucks been workin on this for a minute💯 cant wait to peep
4:53 this right here is why I question the people I've run into that say MechaGodzilla and Apex shouldn't be the villains. Those guys would kill all the Kaiju and then use MechaGodzilla to hold the world hostage.
Plus like, Large Island Level mechs that can be remotely piloted are massively destructive so it'll cause an arms race to reproduce the weapon which could in turn cause more deaths then nukes or Titans
Welp, the guy who wrote Godzilla V.S. Kong pretty much confirmed that Godzilla was tired and only at 50% power and said that if Godzilla was at 100% full power, he'd defeat Mecha Godzilla even without Kong's help.
Lmao no one said godzilla was at 50% and there was literally more than 1 writer for the movie you know. Unless you're referring to Greg the guy who wrote the novelization he never said that as well. The whole 50% capacity thing came from a Tik toker who completely misinterpreted a simple review
@@Kaiju-bm4ts I agree, Godzilla is most likely much weaker than 50% considering that he barely fought back unlike when he uses 100% against Ghidorah/Muto Prime/Kong, it's much more differently
@@Kaiju-bm4tsGodzilla still wins tho
@@UserNamedTenonto okay and?
@@UserNamedTenontohe has no win con
Something I noticed to hype up Godzilla is the breath charged axe lopped MG to pieces and he took a hit to his skull without even bleeding or anything.
He took that headbonk and a gill punch and still showed Kong where he can and can’t shit.
I personally think it’s 50/50 still since Godzilla survived a direct hit from an extinction sized asteroid and MG’s max durability is not fully known since we don’t know what he’s made of, but at this point I’m just waiting for GojiCenter to do their comparisons in Monster Face Off and see what they say. This video has made me both nervous yet excited to see it.
It would have been a tough and hard fight for Godzilla, just like all the apparently superior kaijus he had faced before (Muto Prime exists to kill Godzilla). Mechagodzilla did not get a single hit from the Atomic breath, convenient for plot purposes. But in all honesty, it is pretty clear that all of Mechagodzilla's strenght at the end is given by the booster, yes, but mostly because it is basically Ghidorah in disguise, not just a halo. Without that particular, the machine would have been still super powerful and tough to fight against, but guided by Ren Serizawa. At the end of the day, it was still amazing, and the whole purpose of it was to simply let Kong get his own victorious moment despite losing against Godzilla and having them team up. Great video! Subscribed.
Do you think Mecha can win agaist Ghidorah 2019 ? Also what about Godzilla 2021 Vs Ghidorah 2019 ?
@@cauag9575 mecha could not, Ghidorah could win against mecha. even in godzilla KOTM, godzilla at his max was still not close to Ghidorahs strength
Really good video once again !
Glad you think so!
I'm digging these monster verse videos, keep it up 💯
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Great video. I love your stuff! Keep doing godzilla videos!!!
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Godzilla: I got dis shit, PLOT ARMOR ACTIVATE!
Kong: Wait!! Ur technically the villain in this, U don't have protag powers anymore!!
Godzilla:😮
Big facts!
I mean, technically Kong is responsible for MechaG activating, so he’d technically be the villain, not Godzilla. Godzilla’s entire purpose was to destroy MechaG.
@@brianl8481 no he isn't if u have watched, kong was drug out of skull island hence why he was chained up. it also wasn't his fault mech g woke up, blame if on the scientists rushing to get it operating
it technically was kong’s fault but he didn’t do it on purpose u see godzilla probably knows who the dorsal plate from the axe belonged to like a direct relative or sum and godzilla does NOT like this he sensed the energy all the way in hollow earth that’s the reason he blew a hole there he sees the axe as an insult to his kind and it being wielded by 1 of his rivals would just make him wanna beat up kong but kong didn’t know this if he did and surrendered godzilla would’ve stopped mecha before it was even finished
@@Meta.Muncher kong literally knew his species used the axe…
The director said Godzilla would have won only the beam battle if at %100 so when Godzilla would he would blast mecha down and then Godzilla would have time to go and attack him and possibly end him so I’d say it’s 50/50
Nah, mecha could fire some rockets to keep his ass away
@@welcomeboi8991 like rockets gonna do shit to Godzilla
@@Wok221
They did shit in the movie, did they not?
@@welcomeboi8991 A weakened Godzilla didn't even give a shit to dozens of missile thrown at him and still straight up charge at mecha g bruhhh
@@Wok221
Notice how hs struggled to get through them
If Godzilla & Kong would had 100% full power to destroy Mechagodzilla, they wouldn't fight each other and wouldn't be exhausted since the movie started. But in the end though, with the help of the human assistance (from Madison and Jia), it was Godzilla + Kong teaming up and using their great intelligence (instead of their brute strength) to overpower the robotic Titan that saved the day.🦖🦍👍😉🎄🌌
Yo chuck, just a video suggestion maybe you could do a hypothetical mechagodzilla battle royal? This would include mechagodzillas with actual feats like kiryu, monster verse, heisei and showa (godzilla earth doesn't count for being just a nano city). Really like your videos and would love to see this, keep up the great work!
That fight went like me fighting 6th graders. Godzilla had no chance in hell, the physical domination was truly something to behold
Thank for making this video chuck I love your Godzilla videos ❤️
Thank you very much!
The “fight” between Godzilla and MechaGodzilla was FAR too one sided for me to be able to believe that Godzilla could win if he was at full power. I mean the only hit Godzilla ever got in was when him and Kong worked together and dragged MechaGodzilla through a skyscraper.
He got a half successful tackle at the start of the fight when mechagodzilla fired missiles, but other than that yeah he got bodied
infact Godzilla gave the first punch to Mecha if u can remember
Y'all know godzilla was tired right?
@@blazegamer1007 yes
@@blazegamer1007 That is really becoming the "Superman always holds back" excuse of Godzilla in these debates. I mean by that same metric. Mecha was not even really complete so do we give Mecha an equally unknowable modifier to account for him being incomplete vs complete
Thr directors also confirmed that Godzilla spent 50% of his full power with him drilling to Holloe Earth
Okay I watched it and I'm surprised you didn't mention the scene with Godzilla on all fours. That was a scary af scene to have godzilla behave like a lizard.
I'd say Mecha would win most of the rounds, and Godzilla would have to be extra careful if he was fighting underwater against Mecha. It would more or less be the fight between him and kong, but Godzilla would be the one escaping.
Well, guess what, fighting underwater against Mechagodzilla is bad too because it was proved that it can swim!
@@titanusgoji2157 true, and what's gonna stop mecha from dragging Godzilla down to the depths of the ocean?
@@supershadow125 isn't underwater fights godzilla's strong suit?
@@supershadow125 what about u know the under water pressure for me ha since he made of metal just asking if he drags him deep down would that potentially damage mecha
(just asking)
@@supershadow125 well Mecha dragging Godzilla into the deep part of the ocean, I don't see that happening cuz, Godzilla can survive in the ocean + I think that even fighting underwater, Godzilla would win cuz he is 2× agile and stronger in the ocean. It's Godzilla's domain and he has more fighting experience!
Chucks videos never disappoint they are fun and interesting can't wait for more keep up the great work
I love how this mecha Godzilla combines all my favorite elements into one, its built around the consciousness of a powerful titan like Kiyru but its the mind of a villain like the original mecha g was.
Your forgetting that how Godzilla can use the atomic pulse while normal, also the pulse never came from mothra! He had always had it. Proved in Godzilla comic thing!
Adam Wingard the director himself said that the battle would have been very different had Godzilla been at full power
when?
Dude the mech wasn’t at full power it broke 😂
Idk if I completely agree, for starters at full power, godzilla could blast through the crust and mantle of the earth with one breath, if that blast hit mechagodzilla, I do believe the mecha would die. There is also the point that I don't believe godzilla has reached his full power yet as we have yet to witness his red spiral breath.
I think yes if he’s fighting base mecha, if Ghidorah is controlling, no matter how strong Goji is, Kevin will prevail. he knows how to counter every single move Godzilla has to throw. It would be a slaughter fight. There’s almost no difficulty for Kevin.
Everytime chuck uploads my day changes for the better
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Lets just say, If Kong had not been involved in the movie, Godzilla would have found MechaG before they got the Hollow Earth energy recipe. And Mecha G was only hitting about 40% capacity at that time. It wouldn't have even been a close match. With a single blast of its red photon beam, Mecha G shut down from lack of power. Any prolonged combat with Godzilla (using the plasma hits, the missiles, the jet boosters) would have seen the mech shut down and be helplessly destroyed by Godzilla. Kong really screws big G over in this movie. Guess it makes sense he would help G clean up the mess he is directly responsible for helping create.
Lot of people are getting Wingard’s and Krichevsky’s words mixed up. Wingard said that at full power Godzilla would have won the beam battle and the overall fight may have played out differently. Krichevsky said that at full power Godzilla could beat Mechagodzilla but just barely. Neither one of them said Godzilla is guaranteed to win.
Exactly
I don't think that statement really says goji could won the beam as he said ' at one shot where Godzilla and Mechagodzilla fire thier beams at each other and Mechagodzilla actually overpowers Godzilla and i don't think that would be the same case if Godzilla was comming in fresh I think he was weakened a bit ' this could be mean he is talking about the overall fight would be played differently not the beam fight and even if you say that beam fight will play differently it doesn't mean Atomic Breath will win against Proton Scream as it doesn't mention goji will win it just say that wouldn't be same case so it can be a draw or the other beam wins against another
I mean, they did said Goji would win within an inch of his life
Which makes sense, as he was still able to get up and endure a fight from MechaG when he was extremely tired
Although an "inch of his life" doesn´t mean he is vastly superior, it means Godzilla and MechaGodzilla truthly are equals, which was what Ren ultimately wanted
We could see it happen if Legendary makes a Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla movie!
Great analysis of it all and I agree to it all but there's a small key factor your mainly forgot to input it into the equation, if Kong didn't go to hollow earth then mech-G would still be scrapped metal and a wasted project, apart from the your whole aspect to this was spot on
If the filmmakers understood and were paying tribute to the Mechagodzillas of the past, than yes, Legendary Mechagodzilla would have beaten full-powered Godzilla. From the Showa to Reiwa, Godzilla either received help from humans or other kaiju, or he pulled a new power out of his ass, in order to defeat Mechagodzilla. Perhaps the most even fight I've seen between the two occurred in Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla (2002) and its sequel.
"If the filmmakers understood and were paying tribute to the Mechagodzillas of the past, than yes, Legendary Mechagodzilla would have beaten full-powered Godzilla"
Wouldn't it be a shame if a director just so happened to have the power of bias?
I think the only way Godzilla could have defeated Apex's MechaGodzilla is if he was fresh and fully powered with energy. Plus if Godzilla was able to use that enormous nuclear energy blast that he used to Kill King Ghidorah at the King Of The Monsters film from 2019, he would be able to Kill MechaGodzilla.
No even at full power, Godzilla is supposed to always lose or at least tie with his metal counterpart
Exactly.
Man I really hate when people say that MG would win just because he was made to kill Godzilla. In GKM the oxygen destroyer was also meant to kill him but guess what it didn't and every previous version MG
who was also designed to kill Godzilla wasn't able to because at that time because Godzilla was at max power. At first Godzilla was hibernating and it's been proven that Titans get weaker after hibernation after that Godzilla swam across the world, fought Kong, destroyed cities,used his ultimate atomic breath to blast a hole into hollow earth and this weakend him alot he then fought with Kong for 12 hours and then came MG who was at max power so I definitely think Godzilla would've won if he was at full power
@Ken Thomas yeah because both of those versions were op against that Godzilla.The American Godzilla can also beat both of them and also you can't still deny seeing after Godzilla was not going down and how durable he was in his battle with MG he would've beaten him if he wasn't tired of all of that fight with Kong
@Ken Thomas yes that's true but still I was only giving that as an example. Even if something is made to kill someone it doesn't mean it always will.
@Ken Thomas sorry if I got that wrong cuz I haven't seen those movies but can't Thermal Godzilla beat those versions
What if they failed to get the hollow earth energy for mechagodzilla? Well I think mecha would lose even with the hollow earth energy but cool video I just think Godzilla would be WAY harder to kill if he was fresh. Took multiple hits from mechagodzilla and kept getting back up, holded a beam clash and mecha needed to charge up his beam just to overcome the beam clash, insane durability, had 3 fights with Kong and still won the last fight with 50 percent power (too lazy to type more if there's more things I can think of)
Thanks for sharing and crediting my art, good video man!
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If he had lots of plot armor, then yeah
lmao
I believe Godzilla at full potential could have won if when they clashed beams he used more energy than when he made a hole to the hollow earth and could have destroyed the head of Mecha G
Would destroy his whole body as we saw it had a big spread range being many times wider and taller than Kong
Mechagodzilla: **evil laughing intensifies**
Godzilla: *Also Laughs*
You all need to remember Godzilla doesn't give up ever.
Hey Chuck love your vids, hope you read this, could you please make a video on Sauron and morgoth from the legendarium of Tolkien. Or the Valar and Mayar as a whole.
Chuck im interested in seeing how would you scale Godzilla ultima
Will take a look into it!
If he wasn't exhausted from his battle with Kong, maybe.
He would win ig he hadnt waste all of his energy against kong
That version of Godzilla that went nuclear against Ghidorah was over the top. It literally melted buildings so I'd have to believe it would reduce Mecha to nothing but ash.
But that version is with a lot of outside help. Mostly a Nuke directly to the face to charge him and Mothra adding their radiation to speed up Burning Mode before it could bleeding off. If we are allowing outside help than of course Godzilla would win but thats kind of not a 1v1
I love when chuck uploads
Thanks for watching!
Awesome unbiased opinion! Really enjoyed this! Thanks!
I believe that one of the filmmakers said in an interview that Godzilla might have beaten mechagodzilla if he was at full strength but I can’t remember where it was said or where I saw it. All I remember is that it was said, somewhere. Now, who do you think would win between mechagodzilla and ghidorah?
MechaGodzilla would win 6/10 against Chidorah, i mean Godzilla at full power had a fair chance against Ghidorah in the movie and held itself decently before it got hit by Oxygen Destroyer even tho Ghidorah was more powerful Godzilla at that said moment had the advantage in the water, MechaGodzilla is not only stronger than Godzilla at full power but its faster, adapts very quickly and has infinte stamina basically its Godzilla 2.0 not to mention that it can fight equally as good in the water just as on land. So without any human interuption and in a fair 1v1 fight MechaG takes this.
@@ILrukiamaxim55 Yeah, you could also make the argument that ghidorah could just fly and fire it’s gravity beams at a safe distance, destroying any incoming missiles and avoiding mechaG’s beams. It would still probably end in mechaG winning due to stamina but I could see and argument for ghidorah if it plays it safe
@@-Hikaru._.Tykon- True but i dont think Ghidorahs pride would allow this tactic since Ghidorah thinks that it is the strongest there is, so that kinda would be out of character for Ghidorah.
The main question is how Ghidorah's gravity beams would effect him, if the beams could mess with his systems he could really struggle
@@ILrukiamaxim55 Wait... stronger than Godzilla at Full Power ? Boi could defeat Muto Prime who alone would pretty much almost defeat Mecha
Despite everyone saying, "Godzilla wasn't at full power, he would've won if Kong hadn't been involved" I still feel that Mechagodzilla would've won; he was LITERALLY DESIGNED to kill Godzilla. Granted, the fight would have been far less one-sided, but I feel Mechagodzilla would've come out on top in the end.
To be fair, Mecha Godzilla was currently a work in progress, I'd say the current monster verse Mecha would of failed, maybe if they managed to install more weapons onto it then it could serve it's purpose.
Godzilla at feel power would be able to beat mecha godzilla at full power
It was confirmed by Adam wingard that it would be a 50/50 battle
@@toaster83 at BASE MODE
@@toaster83 he said already Godzilla at 100% would win
I’d really like to see a Destoryah powerscale
Fosho in my plans!
Never thought I’d enjoy watching Godzilla scaling so much lmao good stuff Chuck!
Glad you enjoyed it
Optimas prime: u have no soul
Galvatron: thats why ihave no fear
Okay so I haven’t watch the video yet. But I’m pretty sure that the reason Godzilla couldn’t beat MechaGodzilla by himself, is because Godzilla was tired after drilling a hole into the middle of the earth and fighting Kong. And Godzilla had no idea on who MechaGodzilla was because it’s not a real kaiju. So that’s why Godzilla wasn’t able to beat MechaGodzilla by himself.
Edit: btw MechaGodzilla knew who Godzilla was because it was king ghidorah aka monster zero controlling MechaGodzilla, so MechaGodzilla knew Godzilla’s weaknesses and attacks.
I heard that Godzilla was exhausted from fighting kong and using all his power to make the hollow earth. If he was at full power then the fight will be very close.
The problem is that Godzilla would eventually get tired, while the machine would just keep fighting him.
Thermzilla: Ez claps
Godzilla: Clapped
Max Dest: *are you sure about that?*
@@AGUNGUTAMAPUTRAAGUNG Thermo At Full: Yes
@@cauag9575 It was A KU reference lol
@@AGUNGUTAMAPUTRAAGUNG Oh ok ! xD
Godzilla was definitely dealing with some form of fatigue, had a huge wound on his left thigh, and literally turned around to fight Mechagodzilla, leaving Kong on his back!!! That was definitely a handicapped match. And for those to try and say Mechagodzilla was not fully aware of his potential...
1. He is a freakin machine with a computer system for a brain!!!!
2. The only thing keeping him from full power was the energy signature problem which was corrected before his fight!
Godzilla definitely would've had a way better showing if he only fought Mechagodzilla from the start
Awesome video! You should make a Mecha-Godzilla Weakest to Strongest video! So we see if legendary would stand a chance against previous incarnations of the mechanical beast!
Fosho!
My opinion is that even if Godzilla was full strength he would have lost. For one, we've never really seen Godzilla be fatigued, in any of his movies, and just because the director says he was exhausted, it doesn't carry much weight for me, or the source material, not to mention Godzilla's cells constantly regenerate so who's to say he wasn't already full power at least physically, perhaps not radioactively.
Also, narratively speaking it wouldn't make sense if he was weaker than a full powered Godzilla because they probably would have mentioned it at some point, if that was his handicap or reason for losing. Plus, the director didn't say he would have won if he was full powered anyhow.
Let's not forget too, that historically Mechagodzilla has been stronger than Godzilla (or non amped). They have had 5 encounters prior to this one, and Godzilla has only beaten Mechagodzilla on his own one time, in 1975, which was going to be his final movie plus he had already killed him in the last movie, knowing his weaknesses and learning his fighting style. In fact, Mechagodzilla is the only kaiju to legit kill Godzilla, in the Heisei era he did kill Godzilla, he destroyed his heart, only Rodan revived him, but yeah, he killed him no tricks, no team ups, no other kaiju has done that
Legendary Godzilla is badass and insanely strong, but so are the antagonists. It took Kong, Godzilla, humans, and a mystical amped battle axe from hollow earth to beat him, In my eyes the narrative is telling us he is the strongest.
I do however think Godzilla would win under water, and of course if he is in his burning state
I wonder if mecha Godzilla is just as fast underwater tho he was made to mimic Godzilla and man is rocket propelled
So you never seen Godzilla go to sleep at the end of 2014 in the middle of the city as he was shattered. The Oxygen destroyer depleted all his energy as well in KOTM. He clearly has energy levels and he used a lot before he fought MG.
"My opinion is that even if Godzilla was full strength he would have lost"
vs.
"I do however think Godzilla would win under water, and of course if he is in his burning state"
True mech is still better
Ghidorah still the most powerful enemy imo. Godzilla needed to fuse in order to win plus Ghidorah did way more damage.
Remembering that 2019 Godzilla is still weaker than 2021
Keep in mind Godzilla wasnt really in a good state for fight since his radiation was reaching critical mass and Ghidorah powered up
godzilla got powered up not once but 2 time and the second one was a BIGGGG poweup
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@@erasaesvaranrajkumar2017 first one he was winning Ghidorah after that powered up and his power up even hurt goji and made ghidorah stronger and in better shape before it which is why he got the upper hand
If Godzilla was not fighting Kong he would of beat mechagodzilla.
Haha nice joke
What the fluff u talking about.
Mech would win anyway
If he was fully charged and he wasn't fighting Kong and didn't use 50% of his energy he would of won
Still no
Most of the creative team, when asked on social media, have said base Godzilla would win basically by a hair. Wingard went out of his way to confirm that Mecha G’s punches weren’t capable of doing any actual damage to Godzilla, and he also cast doubt on Mecha’s kiss of death actually being able to finish the job. What we see in the movie makes it look like Mecha G was doing a lot more than it canonically was, predicated on the fact that Goji was very tired and low on energy during the conflict.
That's so crazy I was just thinking about this fight all day at work today