@@roskataqv Lexus added a mechanical rear differential on the 2010+ ISF. That was really the biggest improvement in lap times and performance. As for the suspension, they just made it softer for road comfort which I don't think attributed to improved times. I don't think Kiwi's car is a 2010. It seems like an 08/09 model with the open electronic diff. You can easily bolt on a rear differential on the 08/09 models from an LS460 or later model IS350 sedan.
Great video, trying to decide on an IS-F literally right now. Had M3 and C63 in past, looking for a reliable DD fun car that will be fun on track 2-3x a year...this is helping convince me
Great video dude! So what kind of track day event was that as the play day on track events only allowed the driver to go out on track? I do love the ISF, the sound , refinement and performance! Well done dude!
Yeah Playday on Track is really strict which is annoying hence why I'm not so keen on their events. These ones are run by a local car club and are aimed as "training days" hence why they're more lenient
Cool that your track lets you take mates. I'm pretty jealous. Ruapuna is a lot stricter. Helmets, fire retardant suits, no passengers in car without roll cage.
was smiling inside while you were creeping up - my local (one of the tracks that MCM do) must require a helmet and no passengers. Never seen a near car load on track lol and no helmet! Planning to go in the new year after mods - Subaru Leg GT wagon.
Man, I'm actually really impressed with how that Lexus of yours goes. I've always assumed it'd be a bit of a boat, but that looked pretty bloody quick!
Love how you control your power slide you make it look so easy! i struggle in my 2008 F to hold the slide lol. I love the handling of this car but the chasis doesn't talk to me. So i can never feel when the back comes out , only by seeing it.
It all depends on your settings too. If you have open diff = sport mode and hold traction control button until both traction and VSC lights are on. This will turn off all aids except elsd which will at least "mimic" a real LSD and give you some slides. Don't do the pedal dance. If you do "pedal dance", that will disable absolutely everything including eLSD and it's a one wheel peel from there. If you want more slides, other drift stuff like lower grip and higher pressure on the back applies. You would be shocked what tire pressure does to grip in the back. If your tires are very sticky, you may want to go up to 4.5 bar cold. If you want to actually drift, no replacement for diff lock. Either weld it or get proper 2way LSD. Torsen is ok bandaid option if you don't want to do some hardcore drifting but won't be match for proper 2way. Still million years away from open diff.
Awesome video Liam! The ISF looks like so much fun. I used to have a 2008 USDM manual Honda Accord and recently upgraded to a RWD 2007 Skyline with the VQ35HR. Not gonna lie, as nice as the Accord was, there is just nothing like a RWD vehicle. How has the switch from FWD to RWD been for you ?
Get fully synthetic oil to solve the oil temp problem. Do all the bolt-ons except the airfilter (dont trust them in dusty areas, mayb i need to see tests). Measure your gains. Theres more hidden power from that engine. Mine has an xpipe and freeflow system and exhaust. Best tyre size configuration 245/35 fronts, 275/30 rears. My best is gear change from 4th to 5th wot, and a manual gear down from 6th to 5th in slow to midspeeds. It headbutts 285kph speed limiter! Enjoy 👍🏼
High oil temp is common for the ISF during heavy driving since it doesn't have a factory oil cooler. This problem was addressed in the RCF. It doesn't take long to hit 5 bars - especially on a hot day. Oil type won't reeeally change that. And anyone who isn't running full synthetic already should probably sell their car xD
Looking to buy an ISF. You have an 08 with no diff but you drift so easily, its very suprising! Would you have gone for a model with LSD given the chance?
Nah I personally think the idea of an lsd is overrated in powerful rwd cars. Sure it's nice to have but far from necessary because they already have plenty of power. Mine doesn't even one wheel peel, always has two wheels going if I do a cheeky lil burnout. In a lower power car like an mx5 or gt86 I agree it's necessary, and definitely a good investment in fwd chassis
Judging by the steering wheel this the earlier pre-LSD ISF? If so the LSD upgrade will definitely help with putting the power down. As others have said upgraded wheels/tyres make a big difference - the ISF is quite under-tyred from the factory.
@@paul--b I don't have any issues putting the power down. Driven plenty of RWD cars with LSD and they always want to go sideways when you aren't trying to be a yob
@@KiwiCarLife My ISF has a stupidly aggressive aftermarket LSD. Makes driving in tight carparks interesting, but I sort of get where you're coming from. When getting on the power during corner exit, the rear end feels easier to shift since both wheels are spinning. If you don't expect it, your rear will kick out much easier. The '08 uses the brakes to act as an LSD, so you lose a fair bit of grunt in exchange for control. People dog on the ELSD but IMO it's totally fine.
I reckon the car coulda kept up much easier without your 3 mates in the car 😂😂 especially around the corners. Maybe let us know of a comparison of how different it feels without the 3 passengers the next time
Your Lexus ISF I believe is in the same league with BMW E90 M3. Handling is about the same too.
The M3 on tracks I've seen is faster than his but the facelift with the revised suspension betters the M3.
Yeah the E90 is definitely a better drivers car, but it suffers in the reliability department. Hence why I went Lexus.
@@roskataqv stock m3 brakes are so shockingly bad for a car with more than 400 hp though
@@roskataqv Lexus added a mechanical rear differential on the 2010+ ISF. That was really the biggest improvement in lap times and performance. As for the suspension, they just made it softer for road comfort which I don't think attributed to improved times. I don't think Kiwi's car is a 2010. It seems like an 08/09 model with the open electronic diff. You can easily bolt on a rear differential on the 08/09 models from an LS460 or later model IS350 sedan.
@@sdlausen1 or go aftermarket with an os giken
Great choice of car for this channel, it suits your driving style too, which is on point!
Some nice laps there!
I would be super happy mate!
Thanks man yeah definitely suits my driving style haha very happy with it
No helmet and 3 passengers on track with some added drifting?
Rules in NZ must be way more relaxed then in Australia 🤣🤣
Yep absolutely haha
Love these vids! Honestly fun to watch you having so much fun on the track
Good to hear!
*Great video mate👍🏼really interesting to see the ISF on track* …. *in the next video pls put the lads in the Yaris GR and you go solo😂*
Haha yeah hoping to get the ISF on Pukekohe at some point soon so will make a video off of that
Good to see you bringing it! Nice car mate
Thanks!
Car looks and sounds great man looking forward to what you have in store for it, might potentially get one.
Thanks man!
Great video, trying to decide on an IS-F literally right now. Had M3 and C63 in past, looking for a reliable DD fun car that will be fun on track 2-3x a year...this is helping convince me
If you want all the performance with the reassurance it's unlikely to break, it's a great option
This was such a blast 🔥excellent choice of car!
Haha yeah man thanks for coming along!
This was great! God that V8 sounds amazing… 🤤🤤🤤
Ooh yeah it's great aye
I just bought one today. Looking forward to taking it out! What track is this? I'm in Auckland.
Nice man! This was at manfeild
Great video dude! So what kind of track day event was that as the play day on track events only allowed the driver to go out on track? I do love the ISF, the sound , refinement and performance! Well done dude!
Yeah Playday on Track is really strict which is annoying hence why I'm not so keen on their events. These ones are run by a local car club and are aimed as "training days" hence why they're more lenient
You're logging around another 700 lbs of weight with all big blokes in your car lol!
Yeah haha and still beating most cars lol
ISF Has a Bullet proof Gearbox to boot
Make sure the gearbox fluid changed frequently.
I shall
Wicked, I just sold my GR Yaris and I'm seriously considering an IS F. Great video mate.
Wow going back 10 years that’s an interesting change. But you’ll love it
Cool that your track lets you take mates. I'm pretty jealous. Ruapuna is a lot stricter. Helmets, fire retardant suits, no passengers in car without roll cage.
Yeah most track days are like that - hence why I go to these ones coz they're a lot more lenient
was smiling inside while you were creeping up - my local (one of the tracks that MCM do) must require a helmet and no passengers. Never seen a near car load on track lol and no helmet! Planning to go in the new year after mods - Subaru Leg GT wagon.
Yeah haha these track days I go to are pretty lenient
@@KiwiCarLife I think it'll be a good watch as you do track upgrades
Love the ISF. Looking forward to more vids on it!
Good to hear! Plenty more coming
I love your new ISF mate! What an awesome addition to this channel. Just wondering, was TC/ESC turned off when you were doing those cool powerslides?
Yeah absolutely - T/C is very intrusive while on so just turned it completely off
Man, I'm actually really impressed with how that Lexus of yours goes. I've always assumed it'd be a bit of a boat, but that looked pretty bloody quick!
Yeah man it's a rocket
These car are not boats. They put down the same lap time as the V8 BMW M3
@@Toyota4Life Actually better lap times than the Michelin race tire shod M3 if C&D wasn't so corrupt. 🤔🤣
Love how you control your power slide you make it look so easy! i struggle in my 2008 F to hold the slide lol. I love the handling of this car but the chasis doesn't talk to me. So i can never feel when the back comes out , only by seeing it.
Interesting... I found it one of the easiest cars to powerslide. Very controllable and great chassis feedback. Maybe tyres have an effect on that?
I also struggle with my 08 one to get it sideways
@@MarkShaw1 you can get them sideways but maintaining it is , is another thing
@@gretskiauto needs a diff. I agree that it's very easy to get sideways but hard to hold.
It all depends on your settings too. If you have open diff = sport mode and hold traction control button until both traction and VSC lights are on. This will turn off all aids except elsd which will at least "mimic" a real LSD and give you some slides. Don't do the pedal dance. If you do "pedal dance", that will disable absolutely everything including eLSD and it's a one wheel peel from there. If you want more slides, other drift stuff like lower grip and higher pressure on the back applies. You would be shocked what tire pressure does to grip in the back. If your tires are very sticky, you may want to go up to 4.5 bar cold. If you want to actually drift, no replacement for diff lock. Either weld it or get proper 2way LSD. Torsen is ok bandaid option if you don't want to do some hardcore drifting but won't be match for proper 2way. Still million years away from open diff.
Great vid, and nice sounding car. What was the fuel consumption on track?
Thanks man and absolutely awful hahah like 33L/100km
@@KiwiCarLife Oh god, lmao
Awesome video Liam! The ISF looks like so much fun. I used to have a 2008 USDM manual Honda Accord and recently upgraded to a RWD 2007 Skyline with the VQ35HR.
Not gonna lie, as nice as the Accord was, there is just nothing like a RWD vehicle. How has the switch from FWD to RWD been for you ?
Yeah agree it's way more fun
Smile on the dial factor 💯
Yep
Chur nice bro good driver 🤙🏼
Thanks!
Oh man you got my dream sedan. Keep an eye on the valley plate for any leaks.
Will do!
How's your valley plate any leaks?
Fine
Get fully synthetic oil to solve the oil temp problem. Do all the bolt-ons except the airfilter (dont trust them in dusty areas, mayb i need to see tests). Measure your gains. Theres more hidden power from that engine. Mine has an xpipe and freeflow system and exhaust. Best tyre size configuration 245/35 fronts, 275/30 rears. My best is gear change from 4th to 5th wot, and a manual gear down from 6th to 5th in slow to midspeeds. It headbutts 285kph speed limiter! Enjoy 👍🏼
Nice!
High oil temp is common for the ISF during heavy driving since it doesn't have a factory oil cooler. This problem was addressed in the RCF. It doesn't take long to hit 5 bars - especially on a hot day. Oil type won't reeeally change that. And anyone who isn't running full synthetic already should probably sell their car xD
Sounds like brake upgrades are on the to do list for this puppy
Tbh the brakes were actually all good so I'm happy with them. I know I mentioned I felt brake fade but I don't think it actually was
@@KiwiCarLife yeh 4 up and the brakes survived some how, wow
Looking forward to a carbon fibre cold air intake and a bimodal exhaust on your ISF. That'll get those beautiful v8 tones cranking.
Yeahhh I mean it would be cool but I'm pretty happy with it how it is. Focusing on another project atm that'll be revealed on Wednesday
Looking to buy an ISF. You have an 08 with no diff but you drift so easily, its very suprising! Would you have gone for a model with LSD given the chance?
Nah I personally think the idea of an lsd is overrated in powerful rwd cars. Sure it's nice to have but far from necessary because they already have plenty of power. Mine doesn't even one wheel peel, always has two wheels going if I do a cheeky lil burnout. In a lower power car like an mx5 or gt86 I agree it's necessary, and definitely a good investment in fwd chassis
Downshifting the isf sounds 👌 exhaust upgrades on the cards?
It actually came with an exhaust which I removed coz it droned haha so probably not
My Japanese imported ISF has a speed cut at an indicated 190kph. Seems like your one doesn't? Has the ECU been reflashed?
Well see I'm wondering the same thing... mine will definitely keep going well over 200
What a machine!
Yuuuurs lovely vehicle. Looking forward to seeing some Accord content man!
For a Lexus, for sure.
Indeed
That’s Lexus F is SEX. Welcome to the Toyota | Lexus life 🙏🏽
Saw the ISF and clicked instantly
Thanks man! Glad to hear you've moved on from dissing me and my Honda's HAHA
As an accord owner, this is the right car to upgrade....to bad in my country taxes go rocket up after the 2L engine.
Yeah agree, NZ is one of those unique countries where you can actually own a car like this and not become bankrupt.
Classic 2IS speedo/tach needle light failure haha. Touch wood mine still lights up.
Not sure what you mean sorry
Take this car to Pukekohe track it’s bigger and you will have so much fun up there next time you go up to Auckland
I shall
Impressive yaris
Yeah for sure
Judging by the steering wheel this the earlier pre-LSD ISF? If so the LSD upgrade will definitely help with putting the power down. As others have said upgraded wheels/tyres make a big difference - the ISF is quite under-tyred from the factory.
Yeah pre-LSD. I prefer the open diff. Much less snappy on the street but still goes sideways if you poke it with a stick
@@KiwiCarLife LSDs are not snappy with top end recent design tires, and def help put power down
@@paul--b I don't have any issues putting the power down. Driven plenty of RWD cars with LSD and they always want to go sideways when you aren't trying to be a yob
@@KiwiCarLife My ISF has a stupidly aggressive aftermarket LSD. Makes driving in tight carparks interesting, but I sort of get where you're coming from. When getting on the power during corner exit, the rear end feels easier to shift since both wheels are spinning. If you don't expect it, your rear will kick out much easier.
The '08 uses the brakes to act as an LSD, so you lose a fair bit of grunt in exchange for control.
People dog on the ELSD but IMO it's totally fine.
@@ing8404 Yep agree I'm perfectly happy with it
Hello!
Where is that track?
Manfeild
Nice driving bro, must have a go at mansfeild, only done pukaas a couple of times and they were really strict with helmuts and suits.the isf rocks.
Thanks man! And yeah when playday on track does sessions they're super strict. These guys are pretty lenient haha
I love this car
Good to hear
How much does it cost to go to a track?
For this one $90, but most are way more
🔥🔥🔥🖐🏼🖐🏼🖐🏼
Thanks
I reckon the car coulda kept up much easier without your 3 mates in the car 😂😂 especially around the corners. Maybe let us know of a comparison of how different it feels without the 3 passengers the next time
Yeah haha the passengers added entertainment value tho
What year isf?
2008
It is not the power...it is about the weight ;-)
Yes
did i see a turbo daihatsu?
Possibly? Not sure where
Hey LEXUS bring back F versions and for all LEXUS models
Good model
Get a lsd with a 3:133 ratio it will pull harder
Already sold the car