Competition is for Losers with Peter Thiel (How to Start a Startup 2014: 5)

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  • @chapterme
    @chapterme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Chapters (Powered by ChapterMe) -
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:50 - Outline
    00:57 - Capturing value
    01:57 - Big piece of a small pie
    03:37 - Perfect competition
    04:31 - Monopoly
    05:33 - Lies people tell
    05:36 - Differences underestimated
    06:59 - Narratives
    07:54 - British food in Palo Alto
    08:40 - Do the intersections make money?
    08:45 - Blockbuster movie
    09:29 - Is the intersection valuable?
    09:35 - Startup version
    10:11 - The search market
    11:00 - The advertising market
    11:29 - The technology market
    12:36 - Evidence of narrow markets
    13:28 - How to build a monopoly
    13:39 - The right size
    14:36 - Start small and expand
    17:05 - Start big and shrink
    18:40 - Last mover advantage
    18:45 - Characteristics of monopoly
    27:10 - Value of the future
    27:55 - History of innovation
    28:28 - Technological innovation
    30:16 - Capturing value
    31:59 - Success cases
    37:03 - Psychology of competition
    38:14 - Mimetic preferences
    38:33 - Competition as validation
    42:22 - Q&A
    42:26 - Q1
    43:01 - Q2
    43:38 - Q3
    44:34 - Q4
    46:40 - Q5
    47:55 - Q6

    • @AdekunleSeg
      @AdekunleSeg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for this

    • @Anshuman044
      @Anshuman044 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AdekunleSeg lol btw he is startup himself

  • @rubenbarrientos8171
    @rubenbarrientos8171 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    Can't believe that was Sam Altman introducing Peter Thiel to give a masterclass on business

    • @operandexpanse
      @operandexpanse 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Thiel still stands above Altman in my mind. He’s a powerhouse of deep knowledge.

    • @JaydenLawson
      @JaydenLawson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Made the same comment 3 months before you! I had watched this video years ago, before knowing who Altman was, and recently my mind said to me.... that was Sam Altman who introduced Thiel in that Stanford talk. Crazy how your mind works

    • @Anshuman044
      @Anshuman044 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JaydenLawsonthis is from 2014 when sam just solded his startup and joined y combinator in place of paul Graham and Peter thiel has done so much first he solded paypal than invested in alot of tech startups one of the first investor in facebook founded plantir and now successful venture capitalists

    • @RyanPerrella
      @RyanPerrella 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@operandexpanse 🤣🤣🤣 a mind which can only win a game if it’s playing MONOPOLY! The world is better in the hands of all
      Players, you would have the world run by just one, thats a dystopia which comes from that decision. Thiel is a literal vampire, you never heard anout him hiring young men to “donate” their blood plasma to him? Seriously, he’s a vampyre!

    • @TheRamstoss
      @TheRamstoss หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow!! I just realized that after I read your comment!!

  • @jane2745
    @jane2745 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1940

    The one sentence to summarize this video is at 41:49. "The tremendous price (of competition) is that you stop asking some bigger questions ... don't always go through the tiny little doors that everyone tries to rush through, maybe go around the corner, go through the vast gate no one is taking."

    • @karamlevi
      @karamlevi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Jane You yeah, there’s a price to that too... it is not free. You will feel the pain of being highly different, then joking ridicule, then logical ridicule, then blatant attacks that seams like pure insanity, the aloof expectance with requests to join you... esetra esetra...
      Like he says... Aspergers helps one stay ignoring to the haters.
      Fascinating.

    • @jzk2020
      @jzk2020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      WHAT GATE, SWAY?!?!

    • @Stavaln
      @Stavaln 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      clearly communist propaganda. good work, comrades.

    • @JeffreyLin
      @JeffreyLin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      takes courage and persistence to wander out into the wilderness and build a new civilization. not many people do it because of this

    • @tictoc5443
      @tictoc5443 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jzk2020 the metaphorical gate

  • @deepg2477
    @deepg2477 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    3 takeaways mainly
    1. conquer a small market and expand in the adjacent markets
    2. vertical integration is key
    3. learn from early birds and develop superior product using someone else's invention

  • @jerryedens877
    @jerryedens877 ปีที่แล้ว +852

    This is a fresh look at it. Takes courage and persistence to wander out into the wilderness and build a new civilization but that is the summary of innovation. Opportunity meets preparation. In addition, this goes to show how it is prominent to seek the help of an expert. Going into a field with little or no basic knowledge could be risky.

    • @bradsandler3526
      @bradsandler3526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's wrong that only one company makes the game Monopoly. Steven Wright

    • @joecaruso06
      @joecaruso06 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I concur. The prominence of institutional or basic financial managers cannot be exaggerated. Markets are oceans not lakes. Diversification too as stated is key. Take myself, having encountered my fair share of bad trades, I was able to realize how timing, capital, entry and a lot more are essential. Now, I have a $122k portfolio averaging a 12% monthly roi in less than a year following -Yvonne Annette Lively- so I do know the importance of basic knowledge and delegation.

    • @Billionswitch
      @Billionswitch ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joecaruso06 recently a CBCC featured? in which she discussed how debt and credit serve as the driving force behind a booming economy? I'm referring to Yvonne Annette Lively. There was a 9% monthly return when I last checked. Describe the commission's culture.

    • @aliyunko9689
      @aliyunko9689 ปีที่แล้ว

      The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.
      Friedrich August von Hayek

  • @POSITIVEMILLIONAIRE
    @POSITIVEMILLIONAIRE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I don't know who Needs to Hear This but " Greatness is often built when no one is watching ". So don't give up and keep going

    • @richspirits3630
      @richspirits3630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great ,
      Hope you are building your greatness in the darkness 💗😍.
      Keep striving buddy.
      Great comment 👍👍.
      Loved it 💞💞

  • @Jotto999
    @Jotto999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +805

    Great life lesson: don't just try things that are new to you; try things that no-one else is doing. Avoid anything that seems caught up in competition, which turns into a race to the bottom.

    • @HKashaf
      @HKashaf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Like Peter Thiel did all his life?

    • @HKashaf
      @HKashaf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Quack Watch your statement doesn't explain why Elon had the largest share when x.com and continuity merged. th-cam.com/video/nvQ4p82-D54/w-d-xo.html

    • @movement2contact
      @movement2contact 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Name me a single business that *isn't* race to the bottom in capitalism..?

    • @HKashaf
      @HKashaf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Quack Watch c'mon man, why would x.com and confinity merge if confinity had a better platform? Confinity had the marketing and x.com was more technically sound, hence Elon had the biggest share. Let me make this more explicit, Elon had a larger contribution to what eventually was sold as PayPal than Peter Thiel.

    • @mikes9012
      @mikes9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@movement2contact beat it commie

  • @savinien44
    @savinien44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    People tend to view a competition as a validation and pursue it. But those two may not be related. He has a very refreshing insight!

  • @TheLastCodebender
    @TheLastCodebender 3 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    "The most contrarian thing of all is not to oppose the crowd but to think for yourself." - Peter Thiel

    • @DrHydro-mq7sw
      @DrHydro-mq7sw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/S-Jo-djilvo/w-d-xo.html

  • @jossyjoseph3145
    @jossyjoseph3145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I will forever appreciate this channel, you've helped my family alot, your videos, advice, lessons and funny words are inspirational and helpful to us. My husband and have been able to be minimal, conscious in spending, saving and investing wisely, I now earn every week. You're such a blessing to this generation. we all love you

    • @devintrip1917
      @devintrip1917 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're right, the importance of multiple stream of income, unfortunately having a job doesn't mean financial freedom or security

    • @tacmadric9351
      @tacmadric9351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Investment is that tiny line that separates the rich from the poor.

    • @saddamhossainanik2
      @saddamhossainanik2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tacmadric9351 I truly agree with you on that

    • @saddamhossainanik2
      @saddamhossainanik2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Investment in crypto also pays a lot

    • @adenabiyine8253
      @adenabiyine8253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      speaking of crypto investment!. I know I am blessed because I wouldn't have met someone who is as spectacular as Avgustin Yakov

  • @dchambers986
    @dchambers986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    This guy have a really good, dry sense of humor and an ability to connect with the audience even as he makes some unorthodox - even slightly controversial arguments. I've been impressed with his striking candor and independence of thought in every speech or interview I have heard. And that is generally true of this entire How to Start a Startup series. I heartily recommend it.

    • @florindacar8659
      @florindacar8659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I adore Him, sort of Idol for me!..

    • @DrHydro-mq7sw
      @DrHydro-mq7sw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/S-Jo-djilvo/w-d-xo.html

    • @GirishVenkatachalam
      @GirishVenkatachalam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes amazing guy. Cool confidence and clarity of thought

    • @DrHydro-mq7sw
      @DrHydro-mq7sw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GirishVenkatachalam Wenn man denn auf durchgeknallte Faschisten steht......Dann ist der Thiel natürlich die richtige Wahl.

    • @gusfring96
      @gusfring96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are a controversial figure, then you are on the right track as doing something new or different angers the masses.

  • @erikschaepers
    @erikschaepers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    "All unhappy companies are alike - because they fail to escape the essential sameness that is competition" - well said, Mr Thiel

    • @DrHydro-mq7sw
      @DrHydro-mq7sw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/S-Jo-djilvo/w-d-xo.html

    • @thatisme3thatisme38
      @thatisme3thatisme38 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thing is the Ann Karenina quote didn't work at all. Tolstoy said that all unhappy families are unhappy in their own unique way.

    • @ericwilliams626
      @ericwilliams626 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong. The throughline has nothing to do with competition. He is playing semantics. They are unhappy because they are factually complacent in the unwillingness to create change in their environment, ie make EV or hybrid vehicles, food companies moving towards ready made foods, camera manufacturers getting into action cameras, dept stores being aggressive to online sales, and Paypal doing what credit card companies refused to do, Can they? Yes, so why don't they? Leadership are made up of fossils who don't want the risk under their tenue. That's the bottom line. Competition is not the issue.

  • @AnthonyMiyazaki
    @AnthonyMiyazaki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Peter's lecture here is much deeper than a simple comment line can describe. It's a great mixture of economic psychology, the influence and responses to legislative threat, blue ocean strategy, "learning is more than copying" ("all unhappy companies are alike"), the importance of massive advantages over competition (the "order of magnitude" argument), how real benefits trump mere branding, etc., all to avoid competition.

    • @thatisme3thatisme38
      @thatisme3thatisme38 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      actually all happy companies are alike. unhappy are unhappy in their own way

    • @johnnyvishnevskiy8090
      @johnnyvishnevskiy8090 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thatisme3thatisme38 No, that's for families. The opposite applies to companies. All happy companies are not alike, because they are monopolistic in different markets (they each solved a unique problem). Unhappy companies exist because they all failed to escape competition.

  • @morthim
    @morthim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +529

    this is the best business lecture i've ever seen

    • @evanmcarthur478
      @evanmcarthur478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Best and most depressing if you trying to build a startup.

    • @camillemadsen3078
      @camillemadsen3078 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Or great opportunities, when you believe in yourself.

    • @TheChangeYT
      @TheChangeYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I read his book. Listening to this talk is sufficient. Same Ideas

    • @actualideas8078
      @actualideas8078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If his goal is a Monopoly... do you really think he would educate people how to compete in business? I think you guys are missing the big picture...

    • @gamer-ff6mh
      @gamer-ff6mh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@actualideas8078 Of course he is not going to share his entire thinking with us.
      Mainly we should appreciate that he was honest about the fact that businesses run to create monopolies. Business and enterprise are very different from each other.
      This is both good and bad. Business is like the Roman empire and surrounding tribes are like the enterprise. Both are killing each other. It's best to atleast be open about it.
      In one of Milton Friedman's 'Free to Choose', he commented on Donald Rumsfeld as a businessman, and made his distaste for businesses well known. So this is nothing new.
      But appreciate the great clarity with which he can shamelessly say that he is anti competition. Absolutely.
      We all know the natural state of nature is competition. Like the video game Sekiro, which is obsessed with the idea of immortality suggests, the longer you live the more you stagnate, till eventually you corrupt. It's necessary to die and be replaced by something better and more fresh.

  • @KadvaKorp
    @KadvaKorp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Peter Thiel is and always has an interesting viewpoint. Thank you, YC.

    • @Jay-yy7uk
      @Jay-yy7uk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nb6175 You should throw away your phone and stay off the internet. I for one would be happy if debbie downers like you didn't leave unrelated comments under a valuable and free business lecture.

  • @ropersix
    @ropersix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    The thing about the examples of starting small is, small was the only thing available to many of the now-big tech companies. When Google started, for example, there wasn't all that much to search for on the Web (compared to today). If the Web hadn't really taken off, Google wouldn't have, either. So, it's really more like avoiding the tiny little doors everyone else is trying to go through, and go for a gate miles away you're not even sure exists (you've just heard rumors there is one). And that's a dynamic I wish he would have talked about more. Because plenty of people start companies in small markets that remain small, unable to grow. And you'd want to avoid that if possible, too.

    • @seerar1
      @seerar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      one thing he should have mentioned is the possiblity to influence the market and having market future forecast. If you can see its potential and figure out what is needed to grow the market you have taken over in its infancy youll be able to make it grow if it has the potential ofcourse and nothing crazy happens like a goverment crackdown or new inovation that makes it cease to exists aka what cars did to horses.

    • @abikelife1481
      @abikelife1481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Your comment highlights one of the most important factor that all successful start-ups have in common, and that is timing!

    • @saraeissa4954
      @saraeissa4954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is the exact dilemma I’m facing with my start up that serves independent animators.

  • @datacenteredleadership9400
    @datacenteredleadership9400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Peter Thiel's understanding of business is so deep. I just need to find the technological moat for a monopoly!

  • @esmeralddedushaj3598
    @esmeralddedushaj3598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    His book: Zero to One, is a must read for everyone tying to get into the Startup World.

    • @DrHydro-mq7sw
      @DrHydro-mq7sw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/S-Jo-djilvo/w-d-xo.html

  • @dadarkar
    @dadarkar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great lecture. If anyone reading this comment has liked this video and has not read his book "ZERO TO ONE", you will definitely enjoy it. It is a short business book summarizing his lectures while his time teaching at Stanford.

  • @Skyfloatx
    @Skyfloatx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +504

    Incredibly focused speaker. Love his "Zero to one" book

    • @hasen_judi
      @hasen_judi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The content for the book emerged from this lecture and the other lectures in the course.

    • @jackr332
      @jackr332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100% probably one of the most focussed speaker I know

    • @mikes9012
      @mikes9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      More like 1 to 1.1. PayPal and fb both examples of iterating from 1, not 0.

    • @abuwilliams7228
      @abuwilliams7228 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      great read ineed

    • @fusion9619
      @fusion9619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That was an incredibly boring book

  • @GrowWithWill
    @GrowWithWill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Loved when Thiel came to my school and gave this same talk. Incredibly inspiring to hear his thoughts in person. Zero to One remains one of my favorite books.

  • @funny-video-YouTube-channel
    @funny-video-YouTube-channel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +511

    Basically: *test the product in the smaller market,* then go big, if the product is ready.
    The major principle should be to build the product for the large scale market from the start, but launch it in the small one, so that one can dominate it and expand from the place of strength, instead of the place of nothing.

    • @TopeA8
      @TopeA8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@craniumfirst What he said was you can create a larger market from a smaller one without competition. So I guess the distinction is, he is not saying a large market exists, but it is up to you to create that larger market.
      His comment could be interpreted both ways. What does build for a large market mean? It could mean, the market exists, it could mean it doesn't. So he could be right.

    • @mrbananaman8032
      @mrbananaman8032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      No, not at all. He very clearly said monopolize a small market, not test a bigger product in a small one.

    • @mindhalo
      @mindhalo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You start with a small market (actually, you can almost create new market by inventing some new product/service) and then you improve the product and expand the market keeping big share of it.

    • @mrborat2493
      @mrborat2493 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mindhalo what's exactly a small market

    • @nicetrymate813
      @nicetrymate813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@craniumfirst Not what he said at all. The high like count indicates the number of people that didn't understand the principles taught in this. Maybe they do not understand the definition of monopoly.

  • @tkjohnson9200
    @tkjohnson9200 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely. It's always a breath of fresh air to hear someone who can see past the fog and hear past the noise.

  • @jakelacour
    @jakelacour 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Watching this right after the Judiciary committee talked to Google, FB, Amazon and Apple on 7/29/20. A lot of similarities to what Thiel said and their arguments...

  • @omodiagbedominicedeoghon4607
    @omodiagbedominicedeoghon4607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Beautiful! Priceless education in one hour.

  • @vincentlextrait3092
    @vincentlextrait3092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Competition is one of the biases in the "Lollapalooza effect" that Charlie Munger identified. Among lack of creativity, appetite to conform and shine, etc. But Thiel's contribution to the confluence of bias with competition is quite original. Well spotted!

  • @almanibamortezaafzali
    @almanibamortezaafzali ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2020 i watched this from Afghanistan. 2021 I was in Iran watching this, This year I am watching this from Germany. In 5 Years I am going to watch this from San Fransico :). I am going to open up my own firm soon.

  • @homeontherange733
    @homeontherange733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In a similar vein, i never knew what all the sports thing was about. I really tried to get into the competition thing and all, but to no avail. I always felt in my heart, "i'm not into competition, i'm into cooperation". I bought my first computer in 1995. In a couple of years, i heard about this "open source thing" called GNU / Linux. I was hooked. Business model or not, open source will advance society more than competition.

    • @user-vn9mp2zi3s
      @user-vn9mp2zi3s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Competition of Open Source Apps 😎

  • @jewymchoser
    @jewymchoser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unbelievable speech. The "be the last, not the first, in your space" part, reflecting on how innovators often don't financially benefit from their contributions was especially provocative.

    • @tmalsburg
      @tmalsburg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Be the last" is strange advice though because it's only relevant when you're in a competitive market which is exactly what he earlier said one should avoid.

  • @WILHVLM
    @WILHVLM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    What an amazing insightful presentation on the economics of entrepreneurship.

    • @DrHydro-mq7sw
      @DrHydro-mq7sw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/S-Jo-djilvo/w-d-xo.html

  • @rodrigo445678
    @rodrigo445678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He is a great human being. He is also very very humble. He came to my university in Guatemala of all places to receive an honorific degree and talked with whoever wanted to talk with him. He is a class act.

  • @zangwangdang
    @zangwangdang 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    One of the greatest intellectual of our generation. Wish he would write more books

    • @JohnBastardSnow
      @JohnBastardSnow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I don't think it's accurate o call him an intellectual. He's smart, but not an intellectual, i.e., somebody who primarily focuses on intellectual pursuits. He's an entrepreneur and an investor primarily.

    • @thatkeendude8384
      @thatkeendude8384 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Purely semantic (and false) distinction. As if to say that somehow an entrepreneur and an investor can't be primarily focused on an intellectual pursuit, as if those activities aren't somehow "intellectual enough." I tend to value the thoughts of thinkers who are fully engaged in real world pursuits more than those who sit in ivory towers, if for no other reason than bare-knuckled experience often leads to insights that just simple thinking won't.

    • @ask230
      @ask230 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's obviously an amazing business person, but everything he discusses here is just competitive strategy 101. These aren't his insights. He is just summarizing the well-known and established work of others.

  • @jesseaizenstat3521
    @jesseaizenstat3521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Favorite part is when he talks about longevity of a company as being the most valuable metric. Hard to measure in the "now" he says. So undervalued.

  • @Woomlyofficial
    @Woomlyofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "don't always go through the tiny little doors that everyone tries to rush through, maybe go around the corner, go through the vast gate no one is taking."

  • @mistletoe91
    @mistletoe91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Lessons : always be the last one ( funny stripe beat them on this one ), scientist/inventors never make money they deserved, never underestimate the problem you are trying to solve.

  • @MrCampbellambulus
    @MrCampbellambulus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peter Thiel has razor sharp insights. When he speaks the world should listen. He and the original PayPal crew are all amazingly prescient and have an uncanny ability to change the world.

  • @dksangyoon
    @dksangyoon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    This is the greatest lecture I have ever heard.

    • @mementomori8991
      @mementomori8991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hear some more.

    • @BM-qb3oo
      @BM-qb3oo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's really sad.

  • @guharup
    @guharup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    among top 10 lectures of this century

  • @MicahBuzanANIMATION
    @MicahBuzanANIMATION 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very intelligent guy. I read Zero to One and disagree with a lot of his opinions, but it's important to expose yourself to as many different viewpoints as possible and recalibrate as necessary.

  • @eliezrolerdo1632
    @eliezrolerdo1632 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude
    How Intelligent can you be
    What makes me even be more astounded
    He portrays his own idea of delivering value in his own lecture
    I have never or barely received so much value in 1 single fucking lecture

  • @wilaustu
    @wilaustu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    19:12 "If you're copying these people, you're not learning from them."

  • @RickChen-n4x
    @RickChen-n4x ปีที่แล้ว

    "Big piece of a small pie" is such a great concept to begin with. Amazing

  • @MinhMinh-ms5rt
    @MinhMinh-ms5rt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the greatest lesson i have learnt in my life! Thank you TH-cam.

  • @TahaSalman
    @TahaSalman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “people who seek competition are seeking validation”
    definitely need to ponder over that one…

  • @Derpaherpa123
    @Derpaherpa123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    His arguments are more for people who don't want a million but a billion dollars

    • @tumbas299
      @tumbas299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      kinda agree with you here. you can make alot of money in the so called competitive industries. But this is a talk meant for stanford students so there's that

    • @ag992009
      @ag992009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Very well put, not everyone wants to be a billionaire, some people just want a comfortable life

    • @cryptotrader4307
      @cryptotrader4307 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ag992009 I want to be a billionaire. A multi-billionaire, to be exact.

    • @ag992009
      @ag992009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cryptotrader4307 I guess we will hang out on the multi billionaire club

    • @cryptotrader4307
      @cryptotrader4307 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ag992009 I'll see you in there. Cheers!

  • @MilciadesAndrion
    @MilciadesAndrion 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This is a great video. Very instructional. His business strategy is unique. His points of view are relevant. Everything changes and this include the basical concepts that we have about business.

  • @alwayscreatingio
    @alwayscreatingio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Can’t believe this is available to me for free

    • @RyanWhite717
      @RyanWhite717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly , he is brilliant

    • @jackhallander6706
      @jackhallander6706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep it secret. Keep it safe.

  • @ChooseFreely
    @ChooseFreely 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always learn a lot from him. "Very unique" is a common mistake of redundancy. Unique = one of a kind. Guess that sophisticated language is not a requirement to do well in life.

    • @TheRamstoss
      @TheRamstoss 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes it's about the flow of the sound than the literal meaning of the words. He can obviously communicate very clearly and lead a team.

  • @thetomschaeffer
    @thetomschaeffer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This is all good but honestly, if entrepreneurs sat around ensuring that all these boxes are checked before starting a new venture, no one would start anything. It’s good fodder and it’s great dialogue for case studies in business schools, but if you have an idea and are passionate - start and build it.

    • @victorxu9634
      @victorxu9634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree, but peter is presenting how at least luminary VCs views different ideas/startups

    • @christophert8419
      @christophert8419 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      missing the entire point

    • @Martinit0
      @Martinit0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm, but have you heard that 90% of startups fail? Maybe better to sit down and think before you drop $100k to open a new restaurant.

  • @ESPINDESIGNS
    @ESPINDESIGNS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've hard this said in business school in another way: Don't compete with Walmart.
    Essentially be a niche that answer a problem in a small market then grow your niche.

  • @manuelcuevas1
    @manuelcuevas1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This is a 50min summary of the book zero to one, very powerful👏🙌

  • @danielkim672
    @danielkim672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really great lecture by Thiel. Tesla IMO is an interesting case study. Thiel describes Tesla to a T in that they do many things better, but not breakthrough better, marginally in many areas like batter, software, tech etc. Tesla started out in a small total market, Fully Electric Cars. They started at the smallest section of EVs with a high cost roadster that would only attract a small section of the customer population. They got great traction and took over majority if not all of the EV sportscar market. Then their more mass release were luxury, higher end sedans and crossovers that priced from $80-180K that would be attractive to a minority of the customer base. Now they have mass market model 3 and Ys. At one point, Tesla was indeed the monopoly player in the plub in 100% EV space. But due to not having a technology that is 10 times better than competition and not being the last mover, they have emerging competition from all over the world.

  • @elky360
    @elky360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the best talks on YT

  • @ratikantajena08
    @ratikantajena08 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sam Altman is introducing peter theil
    What a sight

  • @mPajuhaan
    @mPajuhaan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After near 8 years, it might be good to watch this clip again, although we have to watch it several times to understand all aspects of Peter Thiel's words.

  • @SpencerChen-t3g
    @SpencerChen-t3g 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s now 2024, I came here for Peter Thiel, imagine the shock when I saw Sam Altman as his introducer

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    His answer to the last question was so good that I had to watch it twice. I wonder what's the guy who asked it up to now.

    • @theelusiveMrD
      @theelusiveMrD 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What was the question?

    • @irfanulkarim4992
      @irfanulkarim4992 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Probably was interested in burying bitcoins last year

    • @manns101101
      @manns101101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      he is Zuck's number 2 at Facebook

    • @hamzahsajidkhan3602
      @hamzahsajidkhan3602 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manns101101 Moskovitz ?

    • @plamenyossifov6135
      @plamenyossifov6135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      what was the actual question? i rewatched, but can't hear it clearly.

  • @c.s.hayden3022
    @c.s.hayden3022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you keep personal besting yourself and you have a realistic perspective on your own work, you will become better than others. Competition puts the frame in the hands of your competitors, but they can never be you.

  • @AlexVoxel
    @AlexVoxel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This is a very good talk. It is amazing. I'm glad the youtube algorithm brought me here!

  • @MrBOTCHOGTV
    @MrBOTCHOGTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know that's the key. You delight a narrow group of customers. That is doable. That gives you experience as a business person and that success in that segment will make people (consumers and investors) have confidence in your business and then you start to think of ways to grow it.. keep punching and boom you're an overnight success 20 years in the making. Most can't do that.

  • @gullybull5568
    @gullybull5568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i agree with almost everything he said and now to watch again to see if i can disagree ! the proof is in the ability to hold under light of skepticism - and survive scrutiny at the highest levels of quality controls.

  • @impactfulcapitalistsclips
    @impactfulcapitalistsclips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My rule in life is that if I ever catch myself in a position where everyone around me has the same plan, I’m in the wrong place.

  • @automateconstruction
    @automateconstruction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow the palantir jacket in 2017 this guy doesn't miss

  • @lidarman2
    @lidarman2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Wow. This is an awesome talk. I am glad I found it even now.

  • @gobrandsprint
    @gobrandsprint ปีที่แล้ว

    What it takes to build a successful start-up:
    1/ capture a large part of a small market
    (Aim for a high penetration in some specific market)
    2/ find the smallest possible cohesive subset of your market
    3/ with users desperately need what you are doing
    4/ go after that first
    (Credit: Sam Altman/Peter Thiel)

  • @bertjanssen108
    @bertjanssen108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Thiel: being successful is simple, just have a monopoly in a large market, like Google for example. Me: ah ok....

    • @michaeltomasson
      @michaeltomasson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Nope you missed the point. Watch again

    • @Tmanfluff1
      @Tmanfluff1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bert - Not what he said. Mis-heard, or a meaningful typo

    • @tracysample6942
      @tracysample6942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are correct!

    • @theondono
      @theondono 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      How could you get the exact opposite of his point? He spends half the talk explaining a simple concept:
      small market monopoly >>> big market competitor

    • @msventurelli
      @msventurelli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He said the literal opposite of that.

  • @dhruvvarshney400
    @dhruvvarshney400 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that sam altman was hosting this , shows how much your surrounding shapes you.

  • @szymborska
    @szymborska 5 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Is the next lecture on how to buy politicians and regulators so your monopoly isn't broken up?

    • @ibelieveitsabouttime3840
      @ibelieveitsabouttime3840 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      The government is a monopoly. They don't break up corporate monopolies... they just integrate them into the state in very creative ways. This started with standard oil and has never changed.

    • @sonnyh9774
      @sonnyh9774 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The next lecture is how to make a deal with the devil and lose your soul. The elites will sacrifice their families for a dollar.

    • @Aengrod
      @Aengrod 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its simple. Make government majority shareholder, here fixed it gor you.

    • @abikelife1481
      @abikelife1481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha I don't think that portion will be airing free of charge, but it should! Exactly how it goes, and precisely why Bezos bought the Washington Post, and then purchased a large DC home, with ballroom for hob knobbing, with government officials and elected representatives.

    • @abikelife1481
      @abikelife1481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ibelieveitsabouttime3840 yeah and they definitely have the monopoly on the use of force. In the end it all comes down to being upheld at a barrel of a gun, and they have the authority of using their guns.

  • @georgeb8637
    @georgeb8637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:50 - start with small market - but takeover that market (do things that have not been done before)
    24:10 - value of the business came from cash flows 2011 and beyond - what does Peter mean by that?
    24:39 - value comes from future cash flows
    25:53 - order of magnitude better then state of the art today
    28:30 - tech innovation slides

  • @makeplay8004
    @makeplay8004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Happy companies [are] unique whereas unhappy companies failed to espace the essential sameness of competition."

  • @nicolexu6247
    @nicolexu6247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first and only video i liked when the speaker said "um" in every sentence

  • @jstov
    @jstov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This talk changed my life

    • @jimmyfallon2484
      @jimmyfallon2484 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How?

    • @kenkrak4649
      @kenkrak4649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea, it didnt so shut up

    • @noudialp
      @noudialp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jimmyfallon2484 He's got a lot of attractive women around him now

    • @jstov
      @jstov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      noudi alp it’s true

  • @CaptainWafflos
    @CaptainWafflos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this dude is basically Tech Bro Patrick Bateman. comment section of "wow great business tips!" basically shows you where we are in the world

  • @Beyondflix
    @Beyondflix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Man...him bashing the film industry is really making me reconsider my life choices

  • @bestlifeever1211
    @bestlifeever1211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who’s here in 2022? Peter T us the GOAT of the startup world!

  • @think2086
    @think2086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Ah, so THAT's who Peter Gregory from Silicon Valley is based on... Thanks youtube!

    • @actualideas8078
      @actualideas8078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was Gregory Jewish too?

    • @pseudonymous8702
      @pseudonymous8702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Correct. Right down to the reverse-scholarship for aspiring college dropouts (Thiel Fellowship)

    • @janshkreli2172
      @janshkreli2172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Fizzbuzz He could be a Jewish Christian.

    • @noelavison6064
      @noelavison6064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pseudonymous8702 I would say he is closer to Gavin Belson. Thiel is where the blood boy thing comes from.

  • @YashSharma-xd5rg
    @YashSharma-xd5rg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyday I hv followed this. Innovation is also result of external environmental acting on our minds. My competitors environment and instincts may b different. I never cared as I sold my products and competed head to head with MS/Cisco even zoom.

  • @chanpreetsingh007
    @chanpreetsingh007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    30:45 I get his point about scientists not making any significant money but please remember there is more to life than money…Albert Einstein will be remembered forever, lets not miss the big picture. Great talk. Thanx a lot.

  • @petekdemircioglu
    @petekdemircioglu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Peter Thiel! Hes a very strong Critical Thinker.

  • @memorabiliaexpert
    @memorabiliaexpert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great advice from Peter Thiel. That's pretty much how I approached my niche business 10 years ago and I can vouch for what Peter is saying.

    • @randyschwaggins
      @randyschwaggins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good for you - I did the same - I went for a niche sector within a very large total mkt with major players but concentrated on 1 thing they didn't do - there was 1 or 2 global players (both small) and we were able to grow a great business. From there we pivoted to some quite different areas but they were all linked because they were relevant to our original client base. It def works.

    • @memorabiliaexpert
      @memorabiliaexpert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@randyschwaggins Yeah, similar approach to how I did it Randy. The other day a friend of mind mentioned how he would like to try start his own business and I literally thought of what Peter had said about "competition is for losers" and I gave him that advice, pick a niche area within a market and it will increase your chance of success.
      I'm currently working on a new project, same approach. Hope business is going well for you.

    • @abikelife1481
      @abikelife1481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like your comment and personally I agree and that is exactly the route I have chosen for my business. A nice niche, with very little competition, and something that most people haven't heard of and never would imagine to be profitable. Been in business coming up on 8 years, growing steadily each year, and currently busier than ever before. However, now I am researching ways to gain investment and capital to grow business to the next stage, and hire some help, and it seems like most videos are suggesting that investors are looking for startups that have products or services that can potentially grow to into a massive market, things that will change the world, products within the tech sphere.

    • @memorabiliaexpert
      @memorabiliaexpert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abikelife1481 Yeah, I suppose most investors are looking for a big return on their investment. For me, I really value my independence and the thought of giving over shares in my company and then having to consider the investor when making business decisions makes me feel uncomfortable. Though each to their own. If at all possible I think growing organically with the resources you already have it the best way, sometimes bigger isn't always better. Though, don't get me wrong, I appreciate these things are not black & white and investment might be crucial at a particular point in time for a business for it to grow in a meaningful way.

  • @jackhallander6706
    @jackhallander6706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thiel knows all about competition. He spent time in big law and high finance before moving back to California. He must have come to some of these realizations during those times in his youth.

  • @rahult5998
    @rahult5998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fun fact: this is the exact summary of zero to one

  • @MT-lq9fq
    @MT-lq9fq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Gained so much value in this conversation thanks Peter

  • @thesuccesscommunity6916
    @thesuccesscommunity6916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very interested to see the concept of building value to your business by thinking first principles and being authentic. The real game changers are monopolies and constantly compete against themselves rather than other competitors.

  • @claraclara9135
    @claraclara9135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best lecture I've ever seen

  • @noninvasive_rectal_probe8990
    @noninvasive_rectal_probe8990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    lol, remember the recent testimonial of apple/google/amazon? They were claiming exactly that they are not a monopoly. (obviously they are)

    • @ShawnJonesHellion
      @ShawnJonesHellion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So much for that Google is like what one of the only corporations that has gone offshore

    • @tracysample6942
      @tracysample6942 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was always Thiel's end game and he's pulled it off with Plantir, so far at least.

  • @nickdesantis2369
    @nickdesantis2369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has always been the case, but he's the only one that's ever said it in public. BUT, you'll still see people going after American Airlines stock rather than Apple when the numbers clearly show who has better prospects.
    There's a great book called Competition Demystified by Bruce Greenwald about competitive advantages in Supply, Demand, and economies of scale. VERY GOOD BOOK. But you won't see universities using it, they're too obsessed with Porter's 5 forces.

  • @ask230
    @ask230 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is Greenwald's competitive advantage 101. Thiel summarizes many of Greenwald's important points very well.

  • @randyschwaggins
    @randyschwaggins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree 100% with the message that a start up should try and dominate a small/niche mkt first...build a brand and client base and then look to expand...but if you are a pre-rev start up pitching for seed financing I wonder how many VCs would be impressed with this model of trying to go after a small TAM?? I wonder if Y-combinator actually invests in cos like this?

    • @abikelife1481
      @abikelife1481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly what I am learning as well! I like your comment and personally I agree and that is exactly the route I have chosen for my business. A nice niche, with very little competition, and something that most people haven't heard of and never would imagine to be profitable. Been in business coming up on 8 years, growing steadily each year, and currently busier than ever before. However, now I am researching ways to gain investment and capital to grow business to the next stage, and hire some help, and it seems like most videos are suggesting that investors are looking for startups that have products or services that can potentially grow to into a massive market, things that will change the world, products within the tech sphere.

  • @minhphan6904
    @minhphan6904 6 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    He, Elon, and Reid are all amazing thinker, what a Paypal team it was

    • @einarhk
      @einarhk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Minh Phan Riley Reid is a great thinker

    • @user-qs3th6nw8i
      @user-qs3th6nw8i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@einarhk no elon is, he created something unusual like space x

    • @chitraray6337
      @chitraray6337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Almost everyone in the paypal mafia is , the founders created other companies like TH-cam,LinkedIn, sequuia capitals,500 startups,Tesla-SpaceX ,palantir and others

    • @ebrelus7687
      @ebrelus7687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      PayPal was originally established by Max Levchin, Peter Thiel, and Luke Nosek
      Why people remember only Musk? What he personally added to it except a great narcism?

    • @rodrigo445678
      @rodrigo445678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ebrelus He was the CEO..

  • @SanjayKapoorDelhi
    @SanjayKapoorDelhi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant!! Peter talks a lot about this in his book "Zero to One"

  • @lukehaswell3075
    @lukehaswell3075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Taking the right steps as a beginner in trading requires lots of preparation, developing the skills and using proper risk management which is a psychological torture between fear and greed. My advise is don't lose your hard earned money when there're other ways to simply the process with the help of an experienced financial consultant.

    • @brianrosetti4684
      @brianrosetti4684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is just the simple truth not everyone understands the commitment involved while trading and not everyone is ready to lose their money.

    • @bertramknoesen9170
      @bertramknoesen9170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is better to entrust the creation of your trading portfolio to professionals thats to follow a large whale like a small fish.

    • @royalwaves6573
      @royalwaves6573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said, trading successfully is my goal and I believe anyone trading want to achieve consistent profits.

    • @dylancredence3870
      @dylancredence3870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its achievable with the right guide, it can either take up one's lifetime to master or one big push of luck at an extremely opportune occasion.

    • @shilohnovick6115
      @shilohnovick6115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it going for you? I'll admit that I need help, I can't be on the screen all day.

  • @ltwig476
    @ltwig476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason investor groups do so well is because you can build something new and sell the company to an investor group before the copy-cat competition drives down profit values. In which like he mentions, is more like 10 years out of turning real profit from initial investment.They are projected values and not actual profits. Investment groups have a giant tax advantage. Where they buy mass groups of companies, then 50% of them they take out all the profits, bankrupt and get paid for by the government for doing so. If you just have one great profitable company, you are paying full tax on those profits. This is significant in defining the peak of our Predatory Capitalist system. In which started with Ronald Reagan era. The investor groups carry a balance of companies they keep and ones they purposely drive into the ground.
    Once Predatory Capitalism has peaked, it starts failing as we have seen with 40 million employees leaving the workforce.Then the government is forced to restructure the tax system where the only way to make millions or billions is to build profitable business that pays out long term. In which companies would have to keep reinvesting profits, innovating ahead of competition and building out. This requires a reliance on paying good wages to keep a talented work force. It's how capitalism worked before Reaganomics took over.

  • @yvanrichard2666
    @yvanrichard2666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    SAM ALTMAN IS HERE !!!! 0:14

  • @tsancio
    @tsancio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paraphrasing: "Dominate first and then work through concentric circles". Good

  • @tangobayus
    @tangobayus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Finding an area to monopolize means you have to have deep domain knowledge that you won't get in college. A lot of the startups in the Bay Area are "me too" ideas such as scooters, self-driving cars, payroll, HR, payments. Deep domain knowledge can only be acquired over a period of years of working in some industry other than getting an MBA or IT degree. At the moment the world is littered with the rotting corpses of unicorns.

    • @hellolin324
      @hellolin324 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most people won't have the guts to endure something this long. If you look deep into every so called "fresh ideas", there are at least 10 years of prep and stories behind them

    • @tangobayus
      @tangobayus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hellolin324 After years of study I think I've identified some food plants that can be a sort of monopoly because other people aren't growing them, some people won't change their ways, and many others won't do the work.

  • @truthseekermj12zpeantigravity
    @truthseekermj12zpeantigravity ปีที่แล้ว

    Peter thiel is a legend he should be the head of the whole business economics department at Stanford. If proffessors who teached at universities for over 30 years have a mindset like him they all be rich but no proffesors tend to have narrow minded view of the world because they all streotype that monopolies are all bad and perfect conpetition is good. Does not work that way in the real world business is cut throat in reality the strongest firms with the biggest market share and margins survive just like darwin theory of evolution

  • @jasoncheung8407
    @jasoncheung8407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thiel is right. You see this play out in some of the biggest brands in the world, which grew into monopolies by dominating one small market, building a big enough brand in that market, and then going on to dominate adjacent markets using that same brand.
    The non-monopolist throws itself into the competition and tries to appeal to too many different customer segments. As a small company, you simply don't have the resources to satisfy every single type of customer that you encounter.
    The monopolist thinks in terms of adjacent markets and how leverage can be built from having a very strong brand in one small market segment. But first, they focus on satisfying one very specific type of customer before slowly expanding into a different corner of a market and then going after a different type of customer.
    Broad-brush vs. iterative.
    Hence why Thiel recommends that you start small and then slowly expand.

    • @abikelife1481
      @abikelife1481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like your comment and personally I agree and that is exactly the route I have chosen for my business. A nice niche, with very little competition, and something that most people haven't heard of and never would imagine to be profitable. Been in business coming up on 8 years, growing steadily each year, and currently busier than ever before. However, now I am researching ways to gain investment and capital to grow business to the next stage, and hire some help, and it seems like most videos are suggesting that investors are looking for startups that have products or services that can potentially grow to into a massive market, things that will change the world, products within the tech sphere.

    • @jasoncheung8407
      @jasoncheung8407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abikelife1481 you might want to consider angel investors (wealthy individuals) over institutional investors (the latter tends to have to prioritize returns because they’re usually investing with other people’s money). Since angels tend to invest with their own money, not other people’s money, they have more say over where to put their money and may sometimes not even be after large returns (depends on the person, but some investors genuinely want to put money in businesses that they think are worth helping out and growing).

    • @abikelife1481
      @abikelife1481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jasoncheung8407 thank you for the advice and comparison of these two! I will definitely look into this! Just off the top of your head, do you know what angels typically look for in returns!?

    • @jasoncheung8407
      @jasoncheung8407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abikelife1481 you’re welcome! Happy to share what I know. Not sure what they look for but I do know that a lot aren’t necessarily out for returns and are instead interested in contributing to projects that are of interest to them.

    • @abikelife1481
      @abikelife1481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasoncheung8407 okay so not the typical return agreement, or equity percentage, ownership percentage? With the name like "angel" makes it seem like it's a lot less about seeking a 10x return on investment for example.

  • @fatonaoladimeji9697
    @fatonaoladimeji9697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is Peter Thiel's definitive video

  • @bluehunter4124
    @bluehunter4124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    definitely one of the best lectures I've seen