CIP 2020 FMI FINAL ITKIN USA vs GAROZZO ITA

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  • @DonovanDeans
    @DonovanDeans 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I really enjoy watching this young man topple all these giants and do it with class. Itkin is all business, time for USA to win Olympic gold.

  • @Dancingtuna
    @Dancingtuna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    *When any other member of the US team wins something*
    Greg: *Cheers, gives a hug*
    Itkin wins CIP
    Greg: *little fist wave*

    • @DonovanDeans
      @DonovanDeans 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Let's not throw unnecessary shade on our own countrymen...it's not his student. In fact, within one maybe two breakout seasons, Itkin is now beating all of his students handily and forcing his way onto a team he probably should've been on since last world championships. Greg is a legend, you probably need a few Olympic/Senior World medals before he is hugging you. His face said "Damn good job kid, keep going" to me & that's all it should be.

    • @psalmco2425
      @psalmco2425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DonovanDeans now that you mention it Itkin should have been on the US team last year, didn't he do enough to get a spot on the team? I was surprised he didn't play in team events at worlds

    • @psalmco2425
      @psalmco2425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @RandomThoughts thats fair although Itkin on team event has played anchor and they beat Italy, although I wonder come worlds and the Olympics if he will still be on the roster or if Watson will be switched in

  • @richardroberge6504
    @richardroberge6504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great sports cemmentators! Can anyone tell me their names?

  • @georgegonzalez-rivas3787
    @georgegonzalez-rivas3787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Italian was getting blown out early and suddenly he needs to change weapons... he needs medical attention... he twists his leg... Some things never change. All those breaks allowed him to control the opponent's momentum and, perhaps, clear his head a little.

    • @georgegonzalez-rivas3787
      @georgegonzalez-rivas3787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @RandomThoughts Note that in my post I said "some things never change". This was commonplace during my international fencing career too... that's why I remarked on it.

    • @flaze3
      @flaze3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except that it didn't work

    • @georgegonzalez-rivas3787
      @georgegonzalez-rivas3787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not everything works 100%
      @@flaze3

  • @richardroberge6504
    @richardroberge6504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellents commentateurs! C'est la première fois que je les entendais. Quelqu'un sait qui ils sont?

  • @robotnixon3453
    @robotnixon3453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great match, although I gotta say the call at 11:38 totally mystifies me. It looks to me like Garozzo's parry riposte - is it called Itkin's because Garozzo's parry doesn't actually make blade contact?

    • @teriyako4398
      @teriyako4398 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Garozzo search’s for the blade never hit itkin’s blade

    • @taylorwininger-sieve8043
      @taylorwininger-sieve8043 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe Garozzo did make contact with Itkin’s blade, however it seems to be a malpare. However, if I am wrong, and it did not make contact with his blade, I definitely agree with @Teriyako.

    • @njasow5234
      @njasow5234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@taylorwininger-sieve8043 It can't be a malparry because itkin hit him on the second try and if you listen carefully to the video, there is definitely a parry sound, so I have no idea what the ref thought about that point.

  • @TheOkniman
    @TheOkniman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Itkin est vraiment agréable a regardé.
    Reste plus qu'à corriger l'arbitrage. ;)

  • @sarahlee5753
    @sarahlee5753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just a question. When I fence a direct attack (no disengages, feints, etc.) almost never works. Why is it so common here in the extremely high levels?
    Edit- Point-in-line straight to the target, simultaneous, and/or check then straight attack.

    • @yeahidoubtit
      @yeahidoubtit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      A lot of the real high level technique here is the footwork, distance, timing, and speed of the attacks. There is also a reasonable amount of respect of technique between too high level fencers that just isn't there in an amateur bout. Some of the highest level fencing I've seen looks extremely clean and (ironically) basic compared to intermediate bouts at NACs and such.

    • @sarahlee5753
      @sarahlee5753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TheAssaultClass I see, thanks!

    • @byronbranch4645
      @byronbranch4645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      timing > speed. EVERY TIME. Thats why straight attacks work. combine that with stellar footwork and you can destroy people with the basics. I.E Mepstead a few world cups ago.

    • @moXnoX1
      @moXnoX1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      breaking tempo(moving slow, slow , repeat, then suddenly fast variations on +forward or sudden slowdown/stop on moving backwards) and/or distance win and reaction/hands are too slow. IMHO(i am quite a newbie in fencing)

    • @ryanwans391
      @ryanwans391 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@byronbranch4645 and now Mepstead winning the NAC with excellent timing

  • @thomascreeley867
    @thomascreeley867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do they still call attack in preparation?

    • @TheOkniman
      @TheOkniman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It depend when refere think attack begin. Many refere don't call attack on preparation because they call preparation as "attack" and give priority many fencing time before the real attack.

    • @mdlane
      @mdlane 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. Being caught in preparation after you have fully taken ROW is a mistake that does not happen much at the highest level of competition, though. In this video there's a call or two where a direct attack was given priority over a preparation then attack off the line.

    • @ethangas9116
      @ethangas9116 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah they do there just wasn’t any of that in this particular bout

  • @salvatoresorrentino6279
    @salvatoresorrentino6279 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like the italians have the most issues with the reffs, hate garozzos temper tantrums

    • @flaze3
      @flaze3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should see Chamley Watson...

  • @altynyoutube9800
    @altynyoutube9800 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Мне нечего делать я читаю коммы)

  • @jonatanaka7134
    @jonatanaka7134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Je trouve qu'il y a trop de chichi, de ferraille et de bourrinage dans l'escrime moderne. C'est pas très beau à voir (et encore, ces deux là sont loin d'être les pires). Aux antipodes de ce que m'apprenait mon maître d'armes.