3v1? How? Literaly all youd have to do is to each make a big crossbow army and mix some knights to kill any skirms... Nothing the AI can do at that point...
I was just thinking that that was probably the first game I've ever seen where the Magyar's villager bonus against wolves and analogs would have been really useful.
This was amazing to watch! I'm relatively new to AoE2 and recently tried 2 AI on a pretty easy difficulty, think I was more nervous and stressed than Viper with 5 Extreme AI. It's kind of hard for us noobs with APM of like 1 per hour! Still it's pretty fun to play and learn some new things through time. Thanks for posting this!
@@DTTaTa In a 3v3 with other players, they were one person short. So they added one AI, the aformementioned King Sancho. King Sancho pestered Viper with "Wood please!" requests, but survived till the end and even did some work after beeing slinged by Viper. That of course led the whole chat to credit the victory to King Sancho, who "carried the poor silver boi".
Damn Viper on the edge of his seat the whole time! So funny seeing him so nervous against AI whereas he's always perfectly clam playing against real players XD Totally understand it though! Must be really hard psychologically! That was great ! GG Vipah !!
im always thinking the same when i watch theese videos, it seems that the IA doesnt have any army at all, everytime i tried to atack the IA the fastest i can in this dificulty, when i reach to the IA , already has a lot of archers or militia
bad coding. AI follows certain parameters when prioritizing. Most likely AI out booms you early game pre 10 minutes and masses faster than you. If you watch viper he is always ahead of AIs pre 5-10 minutes. When AI is rushed this early they dont immediately counter because they are still following their defined build path. ofcourse there are variations
this, and also, non-adjacent AI players tend to put more emphasis on booming, so they do to some extent actually utilize the concept of flanks and pockets
the disrespect from Viper to the AI, calling them noobs, next thing you know is that King Sancho is friends with Skynet and then they start sending robots to kill us...
"I'm so hopeful!" "It's all falling apart!" "I have hope again, but the hope scares me!" The skeptics were right; video games are emotionally damaging.
After 1 year play every day by 2-3 hours a day I beat up the Ai In Extreme. I thought I’m ready to play with Viper . But when I saw this I need 10 more years to training to play with Viper
When you raise the dificulty Gaia also is afected by it. The higher the dificulty of a map the further away wolves, lions and such can detect you from.
I mean you say its cheesy, but an archer rush is just a normal strategy that works in ranked as well, the AI should be better at dealing with it by now.
hey viper. nice vid :) The lions are more aggressive when you set the difficult higher. an very easy they are nearly blind. on highest difficult they smell the fear xD
I guess this was before some patch where the AI was programmed to just make endless skirmishers? Even on moderate or Hard, when I do archer rushes, the AI is already prepared in early feudal with like 15 skirm/archers army
@Ulf Knudsen Yes, that's what I am trying to achieve. I should drush/men-at-arms by 8:30/9 (standard 1.7), but I don't know I feel slugish playing against AI. Trying to outrun the AI economy is a waste of time, they always win. But what they don't do i early raiding, so maybe it's the way to go indeed.
That was SO awesome! Still think you could easily take out another player by placing 2 towers with your archery-ranges vills in their wood-lines... just my thoughts... SO awsome!
I see viper finally used "broken" in reference to the lancer....I guess he decided that the community/he has had enough experience to say it properly rather then just simply "powerful"
Does Viper have any usual streaming schedule? He's single-handedly made me remember my love for this game and I enjoy both his content and his community, would enjoy being part of it live
Why is it that AI doesn’t know to make skirms whenever you take them off gold? It seems like whenever I play against AI they know exactly how to counter whatever strategy I’m using
the legend! Greetings Viper, I always see your games and I like that you win because you are the best player in the world. Greetings from Veracruz, Mexico 🇲🇽
You can take on the AI at full spam mode with Teutons. Their biggest disadvantage is that they're dumb. You can have 50 teutonic knights guarded by a castle and healed by monks, covered by BBC, and they can stay alive virtually forever. Then you just sit there and let them run out of gold and pow, you win.
Hi, what do you think about catafractas. I've never seen you to play whit them. Do you think they are useless? I love them, but I think they are so expensive and easy to counter.
I don't think it's the same Extreme AI that I fight because Extreme AI that i know they starting rush in feudal age and that will never stop until your resource got destroyed
You couldn't afford spy because you didn't kill all villagers in the towns that resigned, so I believe their villagers still count toward the total cost.
Sorry but I don't get it, how exactly did he defeat green purple and red? He literally had 2 archers there and did not look again there. Did ai surrender because of 2 archers?
And there's me and my friend, 3 players trying to play against ONE extreme AI.
And failed.
it's pretty much only a matter of rushing the ai as fast a possible to cripple it enough which should be easy in 3v1 but that's easier said than done
Literally any feudal age/ dark age rush will give you the w if it's a 3v1
@@thesnackbandit yeah exactly this, seems just like they didn't try... easiest move would be men at arms or tower rush
3v1? How? Literaly all youd have to do is to each make a big crossbow army and mix some knights to kill any skirms... Nothing the AI can do at that point...
I tried a TC drop against AI and succeeded. It was my first victory against extreme AI.
The lions were the most powerful adversary. I was laughing so much to that.
BUILD BUILD BUILD!!!
I was just thinking that that was probably the first game I've ever seen where the Magyar's villager bonus against wolves and analogs would have been really useful.
AI sees Vipers's food under the TC:
It's free real estate.
Viper: I think It's possible
Lions: And I took that personally.
Destroys 5 Extreme AI in a few minutes.
All his empire falls aparts when he faces a few lions
Gaia was the real danger
42:27 "He will never be able to hit Castle Age as long as he keeps making knights"
meant imp i think
or was it building a castle?
@@michaelhallii3322 imp for bracer mainly lol
wahmen
24:46 He just ran under my town center and took my sheep!!! XD
i love slow chats: so much cozier, conversations just flow and you can type more than a few words
8:39 THE LION DIDN'T SEE THE GIRL, HE SMELLED HER (ESPECIALLY IN HARD DIFFICULTY LEVEL OF MAP)!
Animals can smell fear.
I feel like this win is undeserved... I mean, the lions were clearly the MVP's here...
That was sick. It was so hard to tell whether you would pull it off or not. Once red resigned I knew you had it.
Malik Nasir: I'm running out of food. I need sheep.
* Looks at Viper's TC *
Malik Nasir: Hmmmm.........🤔
It's free property
"But what if I were to steal Viper's sheep and disguise it as my own cooking? Ho ho ho ho ho, delightfully devilish, Malik!"
AOE devs: We are very proud of our new AI
Viper: hold my 5 beers
Can someone explain to me what the difference between ai and yz is?
@Reliable Source yes I understand but is there any difference in gameplay ?
@Reliable Source thank yo so much for your long comment man, have a nice day!
@Reliable Source I just have one counter argument. "AI"backwards is "IA" which means "intelligent ai.:
@@fadingfin Agreed. It's not a learner AI (which is a very recent thing), but it still reacts to situations and responds as well as it can.
"Hope is bad."
The Viper, 2019.
Let me tell you something, my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane.
@@CKyIe Hope can make u blind
@@CKyIe but with hope we can see a chance of something we really want
This was amazing to watch! I'm relatively new to AoE2 and recently tried 2 AI on a pretty easy difficulty, think I was more nervous and stressed than Viper with 5 Extreme AI. It's kind of hard for us noobs with APM of like 1 per hour! Still it's pretty fun to play and learn some new things through time. Thanks for posting this!
Viper learns a pro gamer move from ai, just steal sheep from enemy tc lul
I see no king Sancho, the silver boy may still have a chance
Wood please!
Can someone explain this meme?
Type king sancho on youtube search and watch viper's video.
@@DTTaTa Viper played 3 vs 3 against daut and each had AI which could be commanded .. viper had king sancho . look for the video its reall cool
@@DTTaTa In a 3v3 with other players, they were one person short. So they added one AI, the aformementioned King Sancho. King Sancho pestered Viper with "Wood please!" requests, but survived till the end and even did some work after beeing slinged by Viper. That of course led the whole chat to credit the victory to King Sancho, who "carried the poor silver boi".
Lion aggro is linked to the difficulty setting, so extreme brings them from the furthest distances to attack your wormans
Disgusting. Absolutely foul. No one should be able to get away with this. Congratulations man, you've yet again managed to impress us all
Watching those Dark Age lions do their thing, all I could think was:
CAAAAN you FEEEEEEEL the LOOOOOOOOVE toniiiiiiiiiiight~
43:31 That was a sick maneuver.
45:49 "How much does spice cost now?"
Viper please dont
spice? *Portugal wants to know your location*
The Netherlands sent a friend request
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
Actually thought it was a Dune reference. The spice must flow after all.
@@Xtoxinlolinecronomicon right?
Damn Viper on the edge of his seat the whole time! So funny seeing him so nervous against AI whereas he's always perfectly clam playing against real players XD Totally understand it though! Must be really hard psychologically! That was great ! GG Vipah !!
Wow! This was even more decisive than the 1v4 haha. It's impressive how quickly he figured out how to defeat the AI
why aren't there any enemy skirms or archers? everytime i'll be beaten by a combo of 10-20 skirms & archers in the first 15-20mins
im always thinking the same when i watch theese videos, it seems that the IA doesnt have any army at all, everytime i tried to atack the IA the fastest i can in this dificulty, when i reach to the IA , already has a lot of archers or militia
bad coding. AI follows certain parameters when prioritizing. Most likely AI out booms you early game pre 10 minutes and masses faster than you. If you watch viper he is always ahead of AIs pre 5-10 minutes.
When AI is rushed this early they dont immediately counter because they are still following their defined build path. ofcourse there are variations
this, and also, non-adjacent AI players tend to put more emphasis on booming, so they do to some extent actually utilize the concept of flanks and pockets
the disrespect from Viper to the AI, calling them noobs, next thing you know is that King Sancho is friends with Skynet and then they start sending robots to kill us...
First he asks for some wood, next he sends killer robots...
Hahaha!!
if robots start to conquer humanity we already know who's fault is, viper lul
That lion rush was so op 11
8:39 the moment his face changes as he sees the lion running for him.. fucking priceless lmao
I'm getting very hopeful... It's all falling apart, I'm getting very hopeful... It's all falling apart.
It fills me with confidence
Viper - 2019
"I'm so hopeful!"
"It's all falling apart!"
"I have hope again, but the hope scares me!"
The skeptics were right; video games are emotionally damaging.
I have never seen lions act like that.
That first game was just like me - as soon as the enemy sends their first raid I resign haha
After 1 year play every day by 2-3 hours a day I beat up the Ai In Extreme. I thought I’m ready to play with Viper . But when I saw this I need 10 more years to training to play with Viper
Came to see TheViper vs 5 Extreme ai, instead saw TheViper vs 1 billion lions 😂
no matter how "cheesy" the strat this is insane!
TheViper vs 5 AI? ❌
TheViper vs 5 Lion? ✅
Somehow TheViper finds a way. Really cool to see
TheViper vs 25 Extreme AI!
24:40 lmao
The AI has learned how to lame
Chad play
They made mbl as an AI
NEXT: The Viper solo aldeanos vs 10 EXTREME AI
Viper, you should take lessons from King Sancho the Artificial.
LOL BWAHAHA At 24:30 "The disrespect of this AI. Dude what just happened?!"
43:31 i would never though about split formation in the last second to aviid a catapult fire brilliant
When you raise the dificulty Gaia also is afected by it. The higher the dificulty of a map the further away wolves, lions and such can detect you from.
Should've gone Magyars, apparently.
36:24 You could say it's ...
a red dead redemption.
everytime i see a title EXTREME a.i i lose confidence in myself lmao i cant even get to hard and complete a match
28:30 but rebellions are built on hope.
I mean you say its cheesy, but an archer rush is just a normal strategy that works in ranked as well, the AI should be better at dealing with it by now.
hey viper. nice vid :)
The lions are more aggressive when you set the difficult higher. an very easy they are nearly blind.
on highest difficult they smell the fear xD
Thanks! This has improved my aoe2 game. After this video I was able to defeat 2 extreme AI.
It's the little things with games sometimes--first lions, then the casual food heist.
i play it 2v2 extreme ai and even then its can be pure pain, you really make this look easy sometimes
The first 20 min of this are a roller coaster.
I guess this was before some patch where the AI was programmed to just make endless skirmishers? Even on moderate or Hard, when I do archer rushes, the AI is already prepared in early feudal with like 15 skirm/archers army
"Hope is Bad"
- The Viper, 2019
The second he started gameplay I was like, "Toto, we are not in Kansas anymore." Holy fuck he's fast.
outrageously good - really enjoyable watching. Tak
I tried with one AI in extreme, fall victim of a fast castle+knights every time...
@Ulf Knudsen Yes, that's what I am trying to achieve. I should drush/men-at-arms by 8:30/9 (standard 1.7), but I don't know I feel slugish playing against AI. Trying to outrun the AI economy is a waste of time, they always win. But what they don't do i early raiding, so maybe it's the way to go indeed.
Congrats
For the upcoming 1v6, how about creating 2 or 3 spear to deal with the very first knight (1 per AI that are likely to build some)
That was SO awesome! Still think you could easily take out another player by placing 2 towers with your archery-ranges vills in their wood-lines... just my thoughts... SO awsome!
Congratulations viper
Too many arrows flew over mine kingdom.
No wonder thou wert victorious! I shall abdicate.
It's nice to watch 5 AIs facing another AI.
“Are you actually the see me?” - viper
When do you do this on random maps? or just choose islands team islands or mediterrain. Could be lots of fun!
I see viper finally used "broken" in reference to the lancer....I guess he decided that the community/he has had enough experience to say it properly rather then just simply "powerful"
Does Viper have any usual streaming schedule? He's single-handedly made me remember my love for this game and I enjoy both his content and his community, would enjoy being part of it live
I like those matches vs multpile AI opfors...
Keep it coming 👍
The Viper Vs 5 Extreme AI & Lions
7:47 Transformation of Viper into MBL 11
Lions are part of AI. You trick it with archers and it hits back with lions!
39:33- Komodo Douchebag
The lions..
"Gaia has entered the game"
Why is it that AI doesn’t know to make skirms whenever you take them off gold? It seems like whenever I play against AI they know exactly how to counter whatever strategy I’m using
Cos ur a noob bro
@@ihmpall 1v1 me then
@@xeztan sure when
video is 3 yo old, AI has been updated every year.
the legend! Greetings Viper, I always see your games and I like that you win because you are the best player in the world. Greetings from Veracruz, Mexico 🇲🇽
Traduceme porfa nomás entendí Veracruz mexico
You can take on the AI at full spam mode with Teutons. Their biggest disadvantage is that they're dumb. You can have 50 teutonic knights guarded by a castle and healed by monks, covered by BBC, and they can stay alive virtually forever. Then you just sit there and let them run out of gold and pow, you win.
I love that salt in the chat after the first game even though its AI. Nice!
Hi, what do you think about catafractas. I've never seen you to play whit them. Do you think they are useless? I love them, but I think they are so expensive and easy to counter.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU DECIDE TO MAKE WAR IN THE LIONS RESERVE.
8:05 funny that the AI doesnt attack eachother
The viper vs 5 extreme AI.....
Gets killed by the gaia
3 years later (now) all 5 other civs would have had a number of skirms and archers when Vip arrived.
did they change how AI works?
I don't think it's the same Extreme AI
that I fight
because Extreme AI that i know they starting rush in feudal age and that will never stop until your resource got destroyed
24:09 Sneaky Villager
The Snek fighting his way against 5 extreme AIs AND extremely agressive Gaia ! 😄
9:30 si mario narrara esto, diria que el leon le esta dando y no precisamente consejos a la aldeanita.
You couldn't afford spy because you didn't kill all villagers in the towns that resigned, so I believe their villagers still count toward the total cost.
27:00 nice looking map
Gaia shares LOS with birds etc, also more aggressive and attacks from parther the higher difficulty. probably saw you from a bird @ 8:48
Not gonna lie I spat my drink out when the vill stole his sheep
Why don't you just use the shortcut to turn the grid on and off?
May I ask what would be the benefits of smaller trees?
Mainly nog getting holes in your walls. It gives you more oversight
XD Simba's got you good :P well you know lions sence of smell is pretty good. they do not need to see well XD
Should the title be 6 Extreme AI (including Gaia)? XD Love the video, Viper!
Those two women only had knives and killed a lion and a horseman. They deserve a raise!
Sorry but I don't get it, how exactly did he defeat green purple and red? He literally had 2 archers there and did not look again there. Did ai surrender because of 2 archers?
What does it mean when a strategy is considered "cheesy"?
from 39:24 to 40:10 a comodo dragon is biting your crossbowmen.