Are fountain pens necessary for watercolour sketching?
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- And some recommendations for good drawing pens that are not fountain pens.
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I liked the “contents” bit at the beginning it reminded me of giving power point presentations and made me chuckle
I would also recommend the Staedtler Pigment technical pens as well, I used to use those and the Pigma Microns all the time, I did my own tests and some pens are quite slow drying and not completely waterproof - they still shed some ink after a long wait... which is not good. And I found those two the best for watercolour.
Zen Zenzation pens draw really nicely but are one of those pens which can bleed a little with watercolour so I use it for drawing only. Same for the Uni Pin pens... Used to use them all the time as well as Staedtler until I realised I had to wait a long time before drying compared to others.
But if you want to not hurt the environment and save money you can use refillable markers with ink like Jackson's which is some of the best and fastest drying of the waterproof Indian Inks - which of course you cannot use with most fountain pens. You can even get pump fineliners which I use all the time now as well as brush markers.
You can also refill the Posca, Molotow and I hear you can unofficially refill the Faber Castell Pitt pens which is why I have them.
Also the Pentel Arts Brush Pen comes with cartridges and dries really fast... Again you could refill this with a syringe if you don't want to buy more cartridges. Planning to do that with Rotring ink.
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its not hard to get disposable waterproof fineliner/technical pens, steadtler and uni are common here, but id have figured the paper would be the barrier. the felt nib on a fineliner will be strained against the rough surfaces of some watercolour paper, a fountain pen will withstand the roughness. a big plus for fineliners for me is no gravity ink feed issues. sometimes i have issues with gel pens working on paper than ive been touching with my grubby fingers too. a thing ive been doing lately is filling a waterbrush pen with platinum carbon ink, im careful to not leave it in my bag though in the offchance it decides to leak (it hasnt yet,)
Can you make a review about Draw apps for digital artists?
Also, i really love your pens...
I really like my TWSBI Eco EF for sketch work. It holds nearly 2 ml of ink. Right now, I have mine filled with Noodlers American Eel in black. It takes a bit longer to dry; but, in my dry climate, it works. I know it's a fountain pen and fountain pens are not necessary for sketching; but, when you have a pen that not only feels good in your hand; but, also lays down a great line, why not keep using it?
I use the TWSBI Eco with a BB nib and DeAtramentis black ink, which gives me a great basis to put watercolour paint on, even on coldpressed aquarel paper.
Fountain pens are way more fun they are expressive and great! Love them and I teach a class here in San Francisco. Thanks Teoh!
How is living in s Francisco ?
Again, you have performed a remarkable service for so many of your viewers. You should keep in mind however one of the troubling aspects of multi national pen manufacturers is that very often the same pen is marketed under different names in different countries or territories. And while you're touching on the subject of brush pens, I think you should talk about the increasing variety of "watercolor brush pens", I wonder if you or any of your urban-sketching comrades have tried those in combination that with black line markers? I realize that may sound like sacrilege to some people but again I get exposed to things my daughters have brought home and I was curious if you'd had any experiences there?
Many of those watercolour brush pens are just (dye) ink brush pens.
@@teohyc and consequently better suited to 12 year olds...
I'm kind of obsessed with collecting pens for drawing, and the two I keep coming back to are the Pitt artist pens by Faber-Castell (usually in F or S nib size, though I'm intrigued by the colored brush pens, too) and the Sharpie PEN. (Not the regular Sharpie, which is solvent-based and not archival, but the PEN, which is permanent, archival, waterproof, and doesn't bleed or fade like the regular ones. There's only the fine and extra-fine, I think, but both of them hold up pretty well and are cheap enough that I'm not worried about ruining them.) :)
Great video! I've tried a lot of those pens but the one I always come back to is the Pigma Micron. I love them but the tips do wear out. The copics are similar but the ink drying time is too long. When I'm drawing at home I use a fountain pen with Sketchink. I tried it after I saw your video on it and it's great. Keep up the good work!
Wow! Awesome informative video!! Thank you very much
Thanks so much this really helped me!
I adore the Faber castell pitt artist brush pens as they come in many colors, I only wish they could be refillable just like copics markers. Anyone know some alternatives
Uniball pens are great. I also really like the Tombow Fudenosuke pen for sketching.
I use the Copic multiliners with a refillable ink cartridge. I like these ones a lot.
I love the Uniball signo pens, they’re really waterproof, but I do notice that when I use them to ink my line art that the ink gets lighter when I erase the Graphite underneath.
No. That loose bullshit is mostly used by wannabe sketchers which post stuff on TH-cam that I would throw away in garbage if I was that bad.
Steadtler works the best for me due to the point and they are drying suprr fast. Next is Uniball and then Sakura. All 3 are great but I would still reccomend Fumy Safari as it's kind of everything in one pen and enviromental friendly. But getting different nibs is a must as well for someone serious
A lot of big talk from somebody who’s never sold a painting. Chill out, tic-tac balls
I always a Uniball or Unipin
uniball are excellent
I mostly use a uni-bal Signo 207.
That is what I happened to have on hand for regular writing, and I can get them in bulk. Lucky for me they work well for watercolor. It would be nice if they were refillable though. I think ball point pens work too since they are oil based, but I've heard that some disappear with age.
I haven't tried putting fixative on any, so I can't answer to that if they fall apart or not. So, I learned something.
@@recoveringsoul755 I have also noticed that some 207s work better than others. Those are the ones you set aside for drawing with.
I gave up on using spray fixatives. I switched to using Dorland's Wax Medium and so far am very pleased with it.
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Thank you for this very informative and complete video for those who hesitate.
personally I prefer to draw with a fountain pen, the length of the nib (not too close to the sheet) suits me better especially on a watercolor paper.
the fine tips scratch more than a fine feather, the rendering of the stroke is different.
with a pen, the drawing is more alive, less calibrated. It depends on whether you want to draw like an architect or technology or make like you and me a drawing like a travel journal.
Ouch! Having to wait for 24hours for the ink to dry is a bit steep. But I'm glad it can be done.
Great video, but too bad that the best fineliner is missing from your collection.... the Staedtler Pigment Liner. Fast drying, light and waterproof, great price and best of all..... it outlasts any of them. They last twice as long as a copic or pigma.
When I first started keeping a sketchbook about 4 years ago, I grabbed the Uniball Vision and it is probably the one I would pick up any time I needed a reliable and easy to find sketching option. I've never had any problems with them and would recommend them to anyone interested in line and wash sketching.
Goulet Pens has a refillable felt tip pen that looks like a micron style brand named Yookers. I haven't tried one yet, but I think you could use most fountain pen inks in it, the shimmering inks would probably clog it, though.
Can you refer some cheaper pen
Uniball Air. Uniball Signo Gelstick. Actually fountain pens with inks are cheaper in long run
Thanks for the detailed information on all of these pens. 👍😁 Will be referring back to this video.
The whole video, and not even a Sakura Plastic Nib pen in sight
Helpful, thanks. I don't have all of these - I'll try more
FYI Sharpies are not permanent. After 15 years Sharpie black is rapidly fading to a faint brown. After 25 years it's gone. Of course inside a notebook, no air movement, no light it will last longer. Staedtler Pigment pens, which I've used to sign my photo prints is archival. (I know this because I signed most of my prints with the Staedtler, but occasionally just grabbed a Sharpie. 20-25 years later the differences are clear.)
The whole archival/permanence issue versus the aniline dyes in most inks, dyes. I had the very first Epson Photo InkJet printer. I made 'water color' prints on watercolor paper treated with sizing before and after printing: After 25 years these prints look almost new. Some are hanging on the wall, behind plexiglass.Of course this makes no sense...unless you've heard that the biggest permanence problem with inkjet is not the inks but the paper. (Doesn't mean the non-archival inks are archival). (OP-3 plexiglass is worth the extra cost and you don't notice the slight amber tint) Just sharing my experience.
Thanks. Learned something new today
Thanks Teoh. Very helpful.
I did a review of quite a few of the popular technical and brush pens here and tested the waterproof ability at various intervals. Some require a LONG time to dry, which isn't good for my 5 or 20 minute life sessions! Also I had not discovered FC Pitt or Pentel Brush Arts then but both are fast and waterproof, although you have to wait slightly longer for brush pens to dry, both are pretty fast compared to say Tombow.
www.tjbaker.co.uk/2019/01/24/not-all-pens-are-made-equal-waterproof-pen-roundup/
Just used the FC Pitt pens in a heavy/wet watercolour work. Not totally recommended for heavy watercolour, they bleed slightly, enough to cause problems.
Maybe it was the paper which was 140gsm but I could remove the black with a sponge/tissue, and it had had a day or two to dry. Beware!
Terrific review! Thank you. I live the Uni Ball pens with ball points a lot. Glad to see I am not alone. Not only are they waterproof, but they last a very ling time and stand up really well against cold press and rough paper.
I recently discovered the Zig Brushables made by Kuretake. They are instantly waterproof and come in many great colors. I haven't had them long enough to see how long they last and have not checked on light fastness, but for sketches that will stay in books they are really good. I add Krylon UV Resist spray to all my paintings that will be exposed to light, so lightfastness is not really an issue for me.
If you haven't tried the Zig Brushables yet, I think you will like them for traveling sketches.
Sorry for the typos! O always turn into i under my thumbs 🤣
Great video Teoh.
Thank you.
My favourite pen is Pilot..
... Drawing pen 0.1 and Pilot P 500 extrafine... Do you know this pen?
I've not used that before
@@teohyc
Beautiful pens
Try it.
Bye
can someone help me, i have a doubt. i have some Staedtler marsmatic700 (very similar to rotring isigraph), i wanted to know if i could use liquitex acrylic ink in them? I don't want to ruin them, if someone uses it or has experience, it would help me a lot.
thank you very much
I have no experience, but if it were mine, I'd stick to fountain pen inks or go to the manufacturer's website and see what they suggest.
@@sharonoddlyenough I contacted liquitex support and they recommended me not, so I will stay on fountain ink / rotring ink. thank you for answering.
Have you ever used Robert Oster ink in your fountain pen? I heard that it’s very good, but I was curious what it’s like to use with watercolour.
I've not tried that ink before.
Debi Taylor To my knowledge Robert Oster doesn’t yet make a permanent ink. That said, he is on Instagram and responds to questions. Perhaps contact him directly and ask.
I own several colours and I really enjoy the range. None of mine are waterproof, though.
Way too many pens-I use Micron pens for all my sketches-have for years-and they come in a set variety of sizes just like all the zillions of other pens. One could go crazy and use and hoard all these other pens but why???
MightyBoy we all have different preferences not to mention prices vary based on location
Because we can?
This video is so informative, but I almost didn't watch it because of the clickbaity title.