How Many Seed Potatoes Here's Why I Am Not Wrong
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- Seed potatoes in containers. Just how many do you need? This has been debated for a long time and I am here to tell you that I have been growing potatoes in containers for at least 13 years.
Some people think it's 2 others think it's 4 some would argue more. Here is why I am right on how many seed potatoes you should use in containers.
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Digging potatoes is like finding easter eggs.
Yes it is. I love it
I bought some Oakland buckets last year, and container growing not only beat the socks off yields grown in the ground - they were safer from mouse damage too.
Don’t forget stabbing of the fork. You will see this in Fridays video
Did you notice any difference slug-wise?
Yes and protection from wire worm which we have in our soil. Ruined all my beautiful potatoes last year in the ground, but not the ones in pots!
You are an absolute treasure, Tony. I've learned so much from you. Your practical wisdom, simply explained, gives me much hope for my gardens this year, despite my being a newbie. Thanks so much~
I’m glad your finding value Deb lots coming so stay tuned
Uh oh Questions. I have to say I'm not one for complements. I'm a NYer; but in my opinion, your one of the best w tutorial and easy way to follow methods.
Thank You.
Wow thank you very much for such a kind comment :)
Oh my gosh you’ve just described my experience with potatoes in pots - a few at the bottom then wasted space above!!! I just never knew that thank you 🤩
Last year, I grew First and Second Earlies in Oakland buckets, following Tony's method exactly, and had the best crop ever. First few buckets in the greenhouse, before the space was needed, and then moved outside with the remainder. I'll be doing some second-cropping in the autumn this year as well, when the greenhouse toms etc. are finished.
Perfect and here is proof that the system works 😃
@Yoyoyo it's those tubs that Tony is emptying. They are supplied by Oakland Gardens, other places sell them - or something similar - but the often have a good deal on them. Bought some from them last year and very pleased with the crop. A lot easier than having to dig them up too :)
Agreed, last year I grew as Tony advised and it was the best crop I got. I decided to do grow bags and ground. Grow bags by Tony's advice did better!
@Yoyoyo Oakland gardens in the uk sells 30 litre heavy duty containers.
@Yoyoyo he doesn't sell them if that's what you meant he just recommends them. I've got 50 of them from his recommendation and there fantastic, light enough that I can still move them when full I've used bigger bags before and couldn't but heavy duty so they don't bend or crack ect. My whole family have been eating potatoes we grew in them from August to now and I'm just at the point I'm going to put them on shepherds pies in the freezer to use them up but otherwise I'd have enough for at least another month. I have a health condition and don't have enough space in my garden so wouldn't have been able to grown that many in the ground.
That's such a great explanation and so helpful, Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
I wanted to let you know that we had so much fun last year using your method! My mother was doubtful, since she had never had a good harvest from pots. All doubt was gone at harvest and she was adorable to watch, scrabbling through the soil to find every pinto gold potato. They were beautiful. She has made certain that I'm putting out even more potatoes this year!
Wonderful! I love to hear things like this and say hi to your mum
Hi Cristie, do you know if your Pinto Gold was a determinate or indeterminate potato?
@@lmc5772 I believe it was determinate. At harvest I didn't see tiny potatoes still forming on the stem. They were very tasty!
Great video, thanks! You've pretty much solved 90% of my spud issues in 1 easy and short video, this info is going to change my spud production, its really appreciated!!
So glad its helped you
Great to have you back Tony, as usual an interesting and informative video.
Cheers Gary. Lots to follow
I learned all this from one of your previous videos. I started growing in buckets last year and thanks to you they have been a resounding success.
Great to hear! I am glad it’s working well congratulations
I've grown pots for years in pots, so to speak ;D, and I didn't know that! Thanks ever so much for the info. I'm never too old to know more.
Every day is a learning day Amanda
Also good potato info from you, Tony. Thanks for another great video.
Glad you enjoyed it Scott cheers mate
🥔Another great video, thanks
Last year we followed your advise and grew Delicatessen earlies and Desiree. We had a good crop of very good spuds, they didn't get to be very big. They died down fairly early, Delicatessen were ready in 55 days when they were supposed to go to 75 days and Desiree around 85 days when they were not due until 115 days. We put it down to a heat wave.
Seed potatoes ordered, looking forward to the new season. Thanks again
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Need to keep the moist Chris
I always imagine Tony's neighbors are constantly banging on his door, "hey can you tell me how to do this?", "hey why won't my stuff grow?", "hey how do I do that?" LOL, I would be one of them! he has such a gift for explaining and training!
Thanks Ethan
I was watching one of your potatoe video's a few days ago, and I've bought some more to plant on level 2 to add to them.
starting my second year in gardening...planted in first year in ground. Thought I try buckets this year and your advice has been very helpful. Thanks Tony
Thats great Michael. I have a ton of videos on this subject and even more to follow
Just getting into veg’ gardening. It’s a real science! I never knew there was such a thing as determinate/indeterminate with potatoes!
Now you do 😉
Great instructions. I am about to start planting my seed potatoes in those containers, so this is a great help. Thanks, Tony, you are a star.
Glad it was helpful!
I'm here in America, on the upper left corner. I've never tried to grow potatoes, they do well in the compost without help. But next season I am going to grow them in buckets like you have here. I look forward to watching the video where you grew 235 pounds!
I'm LOVING this potato series!! 🥔 😍🇦🇺
Great don’t miss Fridays Episode
Subbed and alerted, waiting with baited potato breath 😍
Now there wont be a second "chipocalypse" :D
I have had my allotment for six years. Stopped growing potatoes due to poor cropping. This year I am following this method. Have ordered my pots from Oakland, and have my seed potatoes chitting in the shed and eager to plant. Really excited about growing potatoes again this year.
Wonderful Kevon im sure you will do well just follow the instructions
Hi Tony, hope you are all keeping well. That was a lot of really useful information. I didn't realise there is a difference between how the earlies and the main crops grow. I will utilise that info this summer. Many thanks for sharing 🙂
Thats brilliant Julia and hopefully will help you manage your spuds better
Tony,
Your videos are always a treasure, and watching you harvest your potatoes is so enjoyable. This year, my early potatoes are in a new raised bed, filled as I planted them, but I have 4 more pounds of potatoes on the way, which will be going half in buckets and half in the ground to see which works best in our yard. Your bucket growing methods are definitely enticing. I just don't quite have enough potting mix or compost to do as many buckets this year. I'll definitely try it out with what I have, though. Thank you for all the great advice.
thats great i am sure it will do well for you. and thanks for the compliments check out todays video on potatoes I think you will enjoy it. th-cam.com/video/L1rf1FXtI9s/w-d-xo.html
I followed your video and advice last year Tony and had a brilliant crop of earlies and lates in pots.
The pots from Oakland Gardens were great value for money. Thanks a lot. You are a star!
Michael I am very glad you had great crops. Yes Oaklands containers are awesome value for money. I still have most of the original pots I bought 13 years ago
Exactly what I wanted to know!!! Many thanks x
I am now convinced growing spuds in buckets is the way to go. Oakland buckets a great recommendation
check out todays video on potatoes I think you will enjoy it. th-cam.com/video/L1rf1FXtI9s/w-d-xo.html
Hi Tony, I followed your recommendation last year and had great success (potatoes in 30L container). My daughter and her school friends thoroughly enjoyed harvesting the potatoes from the containers 👍. Thanks a ton for the fantastic contents that you publish!!
So happy its worked for you Safuvan
You’re *never* wrong matey… 👌🏻
Thanks pal
Thanks Tony 😊 for this timely information. I've grown potatoes in the ground for more than 50 years. Today I bought some some of those 30 ltr pots and was wondering how many seed potatoes to plant in them .
And now you have shown me. Your never to old to learn 😉
Wonderful! Carol it depends if it’s earlies or determinate then 4 seed if main crop 2 seed. Watch yesterdays video I do a complete walk through on early determinate planting
Thanks Tony, I just ate my first spuds I have 10 of the Oakland buckets and 3 fabric ones similar size.
Got 2 we just harvested empty, waiting for main crop sarpo Mira.
4 first early and 3 second early should be ready to harvest and replant in a few weeks, hopefully sooner with the sun we have been getting.
Not intending to buy spuds this year, or hopefully ever again.
Cheers for the advice, it's obvious why I'm watching it again.
Always plenty of content here to keep you busy :)
@@simplifygardening I am a regular visitor lol
Great video,I will put 4 early potatoes in my buckets this year,only ever used 2 in the past,Ally
nice one mate, just found your channel in my recommended. good to see a welshman on here, can finally fully trust the process because i know we have the same weather lol
Thanks and welcome to the channel Jacob
Very useful, thank you. I’ve been debating how many to put in my new buckets this year. I’ll do exactly as you suggest. Elizabeth.
Perfect Elizabeth I made the video due to the confusion being put out on youtube
@@simplifygardening your conclusions are very logical!
Hi Tony, I use old hoses with small holes drilled in them to water,saves carrying lots of watering cans.As I am disabled I always look for an easery way to do things and many thanks for all the information Derek
Great idea Derek
Nice clarification on planting quantity.
Cheers Steve
The perfect method to grow spuds under lights indoors even in winter wud be awesome.
Yes great for winter spuds if you have lighting
I ran a nursery for my local authority for 30 years and we did many peat free trials, in all that time the best one that we found was Melcourt Sylvamix, it isn’t cheap retail but we grew all crops in it.
Thanks Mark I will hunt it down and check it out
Another great video from the Welsh potato king! The proof is in your results and I am excited that I've planted my first and second early in 8 gal grow bags this year using your method. I should be harvesting in the next two weeks and I'm sure I'll be getting a record harvest using your method. Any storage tips for Yukon and Carola since they don't store as well?
Putting in some early spuds in tomorrow. I've been chitting them for the past 2 months. Great advice I will definitely be planting potatoes on different levels.
Good stuff!
Thanks Tony. Really informative as ever
Great glad you enjoyed it
I am so glad that I'm not the only one that still has unharvested potatoes (and Jerusalem artichokes, and yacón)!
These were from my second planting, so I'm expecting lots of seed potatoes
Its been mild enough to leave them this year Helen
We're mild year round. We seldom get frost. My garlic is thriving right now
smashing video tony it must cost you a lot of money all the compost you use
He makes his own mostly.
No Steven I make most of my own which you will see in fridays episode, but even if I buy it I can reuse it and I have a video on that too
I'll never try to grow spuds in the garden again after trying the containers for the last two years, Less work, better crop yields, no weeds, no contest!
Perfect way to grow them
Hi Tony. Following your advice and also bought buckets from Oakland. 1st earlies already up and looking forward in sharing the results later on. Cheers, Elaine.
Fantastic! Look forward to seeing how you get on
Thanks Tony I’ll give it a go, I’ll still plant the spuds in the ground at my allotment and try the bucket method too. Thanks again
Great Paolo I am sure you will be surprised
I was allways wondering, why my potatoes in containers would not grow multi levels. Now I know, thanks!
Glad its helped
I plant 4 seed pieces per square foot in the ground. I am in Toronto, Canada. I've gotten 4.75 pounds from 3 layers (7 seeds) in a 5gal HomeDepot bucket. I grew 14 indeterminates in a 16gal recycling bin and got 10.75 pounds.
The main thing to keep in mind is that the foliage gets large and your maximum planting density will be limited by the hours of sunlight you get. If you get a lot (like me), then a little bit of coverage is fine. If you don't get enough, the yield will be reduced.
Also, no matter what, in order for potatoes to grow, you need nutrients. If you are adding fertilizer (organic or chemical), denser is okay. If not, keep them apart to reduce nutrient competition.
Great tips Phillip
Hello Philip, I live in the interior of BC in the Selkirk or Kootenays. I’m growing in containers for the first time and trying a variety of spuds. I’m trying Warba, Bintje, Norland, Yukon Gold, French Fingerling, and Prince of Orange, a relatively new variety. I’ve got 22 L and 31 L pots (5 and 7 gallons Canadian respectively). For the life of me I can’t find out which will grow in layers (determinate) and which won’t. You sound like a spud master so I would like to ask if you know about these spuds or can direct me to a site beyond the sellers’ descriptions that will help me. If not, that’s fine too…. Does it help that I love Toronto? 👍🇨🇦❤️
@@francesbatycki404 Hi Frances. You have to figure out which varieties are determinate (yields less in a single layer) and which are indeterminates (yields more but needs more space). Both can be used to grow in multiple layers but the major issue is that if you have an indeterminate on the upper layers, you will need more soil to cover the tubers to prevent them from greening.
If it doesn't really matter to you, I would give 4 inches of vertical space between the layers. If your upper most layer is determinate, cover with at least 4 inches of soil. If it's indeterminate, cover with at least 6 inches of soil.
Also, use larger seed potatoes in the lower layers as they will require more energy to reach the surface.
All I really am familiar with are Yukon Golds and Norlands which are fast growing. If I were you, I would plant 2 layers of the others (assume they are indeterminate) and then one more upper layer of either Norland or Yukon Gold. The upper most layers of Yukon Gold or Norland will mature fast which means you can harvest them without disturbing the bottom layers.
Oh, I actually hate Toronto so that doesn't help lol.
Take a look at the "DAYS TO MATURITY". Usually, Determinates are 90 and below while Indeterminates are 120+.
I'm in my 3rd year planting this way and I'd not go back to ground growing, buckets are just the best way ever, watering is about as hard as it gets but that's no big deal and I plan on putting some drip irrigation on mine this year.
Take a use plastic water bottle and put one hole in the lid fill the bottle up and put it upside down and you have a free gravity waterer/drip
I am gonna get around to setting up irrigation for mine too this year 😃
One thing I learned last year is that you can grow potatoes in pots from just a small piece of spout, while eating most of the potato. Most don't grow big but a small potato is as good; if you already have buckets and compost, you can grow them for free. I grew both determinate and indeterminate. I will be starting some indoors today since the snow is quite deep and the temperature way below freezing, add to that the strong winds in this area. (North Minnesota, US) With the wind, it feels -20 F (-28.9 C). Will take them out when it's not freeze to death temps. Big fan!
Yes Carmen you can and I have videos on it
@@simplifygardening You have videos on everything. I finally decided to buy a notebook of just your suggestions. I've had it for a week and today (in the middle of the night), I was taking notes on tomatoes and compost potato growing. Like I mentioned only Huw beats you, since I saw him grow up. lol I've only been growing them for the last 60 years or so. lol
I am getting ready to plant my Irish Cobblers. When you layer, is it all at once? Seeing this helps me out a TON! Especially if the 2 layers are done at once. I was about to get more buckets, but, doing it your way- I'm good! YAY.
Yes fully to the top
Could you make a full start to finish documentary on your potato growing style?
Something with every detail you have discovered all in one spot so it’s easy to follow please.
Its coming very soon stay tuned
@@simplifygardening can’t wait, thank you for the knowledge
Great video Tony! Will be sticking yo 4 potatoes per bucket. I was almost convinced to lower the seed potatoes per bucket by other videos out there. Never had issues putting 4 in. Will stick to that. Danny
Just use 2 for maincrop Danny
@@simplifygardening will do. Cheers Tony . Great tip 👍
I took notes this time. I finally understand! Still can’t find potato fertilizer and even finding one with the correct NPK percentages is almost impossible. I found one on Amazon that you can add the ingredients together yourself. I can keep the N low and adjust the P & K. Seems like the only choice I have. Nobody sells Blood, Bone and fish meal, either.
Just look for something with NPK with equal amounts
Very good information. That's exactly what I was wanting to know. Thanks a lot.
You are welcome!
Spot on information. Unfortunately many sources of information do not distinguish between early and main crop. I believe it to be an honest mistake that is just not known. I've newly learned it myself. First year I grew in containers I made the mistake of planting earlys and only in the bottom level of container. I did indeed not utilize the container properly and lost out on lots of growing space. This will be my first year of growing main crop. Last year was three early varieties in the ground. I look forward to a large harvest of German Butterball. Thanks for your accuracy!
Wow thank you for that very succinct lesson! It's exactly what I needed.
I didnt realise until the other day just how many people were still confused about it. That was why I wanted to clear it up once and for all
Thanks Tony appreciate your advise and knowledge you shared in this video 👍
Im glad it has helped Janet
Thanks. I was about to make the 2 potato mistake with my Charlottes 👍
Nope get 4 charlotte in the container :)
super helpful, cannot thank you enough
right on !
Great Tony I have a few new verities to try out this year and some saved 👍🏴
Awesome I have a new variety too
I’m the same I have some that I need to harvest still!
Time to get the out before the heavy frosts come
@@simplifygardening yes that’s very true! I am shocked at how warm it has been!
Thank you Tony. Great info as always. Good reminders.
Thanks for watching!
Very good info…thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Great explanation. I've grown great potatoes for years! Mostly because of your insight. Thank you Tony 😊
Thats awesome and thank you so much for your great comment
Thanks for your advice Tony, I found a lot of useful information about potatoes on your channel. And now your advice on growing potatoes will come in handy, I had no experience with it before, but the situation requires it 😅 I will try to grow it in open ground and containers.
Greetings from Ukraine 😉
So glad it’s helped. Knowledge can certainly help feed you at real bad times one less thing to be worrying about. Stay safe my friend
@@simplifygardening Thank you very much Tony)
As always great video Tony and I will try the 4 potato spacing this year. Hope your doing well and keeping safe. Thank you for sharing 👍🇨🇦
Only for your earlies Ali. maincrop stick to 2
Fascinating info there Tony, I will bear this in mind when I start planting my spuds this year. I've only ever planted maincrop and 2nd early but I'm going to try first earlies too this year
Thats great Alexis let me know how they do for you
Great video Tony.
Picked up 10 buckets from Oakland Gardens last year and the tatties grown in them were great.
Will hopefully pick up another 10 this month to double up this year 👍
Excellent to hear Mark
Great advice thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for all your growing tips. They have been such a help to us.
Im more than happy it helps you carol
Very good video thanks
Glad you liked it
It would be great if we could buy your buckets in the US.....18 gallon buckets are $$$ here.
I've been growing on buckets for two years now, not great results...but this year is the year I get it right! I think the buckets get too hot where I have them, even though I reduce to two chits the spud still sends up lots of shoots......I think I'm going to give the roots half a bucket instead of a third too....wish me luck! Thanks Tony
Dont use too much nitrogen feed and if heat is an issue bury the halfway in woodchips it will cool them
Interesting, thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I can’t wait to try growing potatoes in containers! It just seems to make life easier and more productive. Although the initial investment is hefty! Thanks for another great video! You explain things so clearly. Very helpful!
Yes there is an initial cost of buying stuff, but you get better crops save your back and its quicker
You could try compost or 15-20kg animal feed bags initially (if you buy compost and/or have dogs or other livestock or know someone who does)
Good explanations Tony. I am never sure whether I have main crop potatoes versus earlies, or salad/wax types. I’m only just now learning the various types - this will be helpful thank you
David
Good stuff
I get mine at Wilkos. The varieties are labelled with all the info you need. I'm currently chitting 'swift' first earlies and 'maris peer' second earlies. They had lots of others to choose from.
@@harrybrown3657 Thank you for the feedback. Call where I live, in the US, potatoes are not a primary Gardening plant. So there are not a lot of choices, and you take whatever you can find. That’s a good reason why I have grown shop bought potatoes in the past.
So I am attempting to learn the different types mostly by characteristics, and not commercial labeling.
David
Congratulations on winning that contest by the way. 😉
Thanks Roy was well chuffed
Love y
To have so much place Bud i foei g my best in my corner from my garden . I like jou leden thank U verry verry mich . Bye bye from Holland
Thanks for your comment
Thanks so much for explaining this.
Anytime Tricia
Do you have a web site that tells us the early, mid, and late potato for planting? Thank you
I suspect that grow bags are not ideal for growing potatoes because the roots are air-pruned. Do you think air-pruning limits the number of potato tubers?
Yes I think it’s a disadvantage also bags dry out much quicker
another great video brother! good job!!
Thank you again
Thank you for the information. I seem to learn a little something with every video. I don't use buckets just yet, just in ground, but I look forward to being able to use buckets. It would be so much easier than prepping a couple of rows and than digging up said rows.
Not to mention no risk of damage from a spade or fork. In fact Fridays video shows only to well the damage a fork can do to potatoes
@@simplifygardening I had forgotten that. My father always told us to start digging over a foot away from the plant to try and avoid that, but you always got one.
@@sandrafishman6588 Yeah nothing worse than stabbing the best potato in the ground lol
I just sown my first crop of potatoes for 2022 last week
Must be warm in Gloucester LOL
@@DigwellGreenfingers oh no
Not warmer than Dursley
I have them in the greenhouse
I am in the forest now
@@AAHomeGardening Whereabouts?
Early showings are ok but I prefer to hold off until March
@@simplifygardening yes, the majority of my potatoes will be planted then as well
I have potatoes that were sown from the last week in October, almost ready to harvested, then the lot I sown last week will be ready ready around April, just as I am getting the main crop in, so potatoes all year round
Tony, Peat free compost is absolutely garbage … tried both last year with my potatoes … did stock up with compost for 2024 … my option peat free will do away with allotment growers … love your videos🇬🇧
By watching your video I've actually learned something that was not the theme of this video 🙂 I was wondering how to store my potatoes so they don't start to sprout (I don't have suitable spaces) but now I see that I can leave them in the ground till January. That's pretty handy for me since I grow about 70kg of potatoes altogether and I can only dig out few kilos for cooking and come later for more.
I have a dedicated video on storing them too. Type store potatoes long term in the search bar
@@simplifygardening Thank you, I will check it.
The biggest advantage of pot growing potatoes this way is the temperature differences between the tier levels during the growth term,which will always be yielding volumes both large and small depending on what the potatoes require during climatic cycle!
#Safe technique if urban farming and growing for oneself 👍
Totally agree Joe
Just back from the garden centre and I got nicola potatoes. Never grew them before .any tips welcome .Great video thanks
So treat them as described they are like 1st 2nd earlies so 4 to a container
@@simplifygardening thank you 😊
Great advice Tony.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Tony, rgznkbyou so much for clarifying how many potatoes for different types of potatoes, I shall follow this advice and let you kbow the results, I grew I container for the first time last season. With good results & bought some more container this season to grow more 🙂 thanks for a great video & take care 🙂
You are very welcome
i grew rudolph when i had my allotment. they were crap because i grew them in a deep bed. the slugs and other nasties ate them. since i started using pots i have a harvest. i recently sourced some " kondor " potatoes. i'm going to have a go at one of your old experiments and see how big i can get them to grow. i'm not looking for a world record. lol....................brian
Its not an old experiment I do it every year Brain lol
@@simplifygardening then I presume you are still after the world record for the heaviest potato. ? Lol..............brian
Thank you 👌
You're welcome!
good video..thankyou!!
Glad you liked it!
What size container did you tip out the potatoes in the first minute of the video. Thanks
Hey, Tony! That was some haul of potatoes!! I'm only growing first earliest this year (I should have called my channel "The Impatient Gardener" 😂) but may try some main crop next year. Good to know the difference between which to plant twos and fours. Thanks! ☺️
Good stuff!
Already a garden channel with that name, mostly flowers though. After decades of floraculture, I'm better in containers too.
@@katiekane5247 We have a greyhound, Joe, who is keeping us from planting in ground at ours, so containers are the answer for us. 😊
Very interesting! This is great information! Thank you! I never knew this before!
The seedling mix I buy, used to be peat based. Now it is coir based. I use the new stuff, but I don’t think it’s as good as the peat based.
Thanks for sharing. The new peat free has a coir base but its rest rest of it is wood and bark which is rubbish. Im in talks with a company atm so i can test theirs
I want to start a second crop of potatoes about 6 to 8 weeks after I start my first crop in the early spring. How do I save or store my seed potatoes for 6 weeks before I can "chit" them again? How do you stop a seed potato from chitting, or sprouting please? I happy to hear an answer from anyone and thank you very much
Keep them cool and dark, but if they were already awoke from their first sleep you wont prevent them sprouting again before you need them