I have found in my 78 years on this earth that there is very few problems that one may encounter that can not be solved with the proper amount and proper placement of Hyper explosives. Worked for me! In country 68-69 82nd Airborne.
i have recently thought about doing this method to try it out.this cone looks to pack a decent punch. looks pretty viable but i would probably try a lost wax method. i was going to add tungsten powder to one to increase its density and a second control tester. just need to find the time and hopefully the copper provides a decent substrate for the powder. nickel is another good option they use bimetallic cones in some military setups. so many experiments so little time!
AllChemystery lost wax is viable but i don't know how you would get the tungsten or nickel powder to evenly mix with the copper plus you wouldn't be able to machine tungsten without a diamond tool or special grinding wheels.
Nux,s Channel lol, like you know anything about machining! You used a router bit to cut copper! Also their are two ways you cut with carbide inserts, you either "flood them", or leave them to dry cut, (cutting oil?) you fucking amateur! Lol
A simple vacuum will help pull all the gas out of the copper for a more homogenous copper and use talcum powder when adding the second layer of green sand for the bottom so that your upper and lower dont stick.
A decent shaped charge a la "partisans" is a wine bottle. Glass is extremely effective as a "jet" - much like copper. Tape the dynamite around the bottle but around the neck too to "angle" the sticks-a cone, pretty much. Face the bottom at the target. Soviet partisans were able to dis-able heavy vehicles and penetrate concrete and sever beams with just such a device!
Paul you def wat the point facing you and the inside of the cone to be stood off from the target so the glass has enough time to metal before hitting the ground per say
@@jeffjohnson7017well as ive found out it does not melt but rather is turned into particles going extremely face essentially weather through the armor or whatever at thousands of kilometers a second
Trrristan I've tried pressing cones as well and got some good results but anything over 20 mm dia has a high failure rate , casting is a better all-round solution for cone forming accuracy plus cone diameter is only limited by your crucible size .
For the time and money [depending on how much one charges the job per hour] it would seem cheaper to begin with a solid copper bar. Also, when casting such a thick wall for such a thin final piece, can you reuse all that chip, or will it burn up in the re-melting process? Admittedly, if you are looking to NOT be traced, buying a copper bar would be a very and idea, and scrap wire / tubing would be a good idea, depends on how many legalities one is bringing into play. Many bar charges are literally nothing but hydroformed copper tubing back packed with explosive. With a high pressure press it is easily possible to deform a sheet or better yet, a hot copper bead into the desired weight and thickness. An impact forge would strike a cone perfectly in one blow.
BS... infinite money ! On the other side its a question of relativity... I dont kniw if you are sitting maybe in the jungle of papua guinea in a bamboohut !? Out of THAT perspective it may be an "infinite amount of money" !? 😂
Why not just make a mold and use 15 ton press and copper sheet of right thickness . It doesn't need to be hidraulic one you could use truck tyre changing one and make a good stand for it . It would make process 20 times faster and alot cheaper
@@kosovoisserbia8937 ne treba da kupujes eksploziv mozes da ga napravis lako samoje problem nabaviti potrebne kiseline poput azotne i sumporne koje su glavni sastojci eksplozivnih materija
sintered efp could be interesting. its the kinetic energy of the copper that does damage so at such velocity even powdered copper might make a clean hole
Using a Lathe one could make this out of a piece of copper round stock without the need for melting some but whatever works ? I did like the video though!
Thanks , round stock is fine but a bit pricey casting lets you use offcuts and scrap and the casting has less material to remove and the swarf can be remelted .
Assuming you have the proper safety qualifications and legal licenses to make one, you could do that method, but as Nux,s Channel said it would waste a lot of material. Think of the size of the copper stock you would need to get the same size cone, and how much material you’d have to remove. But if cost is not a concern that theoretically would work better because It would be much more consistent in strength and shape.
All of these weapons you see like the rpg and even mk19 grenade launcher...I mean really anything the military has other than higher tech stuff is all possible for you to make in your garage. Even the deadliest of nerve gases like VX and Sarin gas can be made easily if you just took the time to research. I know because my friends dad made a German mg42 from scratch the guy had a mill and a lathe, and used scrap metal he came across on top of that he also built a real working panzerfaust and bazooka (yes this is all very very simple crude tech, the only reason you dont see much of it being done is because people dont post that sort of thing as it's highly illegal, but I know plenty of guys who have made stuff like that that works. That's why I always laugh at the gun control crowd...they really think a law would stop determined people from making military grade weapons in their garage over the weekends. Lol I'm telling you it's a joke to even talk about gun control...these guys were not terrorist, they were regular guys who had a little machinist experience that could be learned in no time. As for the explosives, so long as you research proper methods and have a decent understanding of chemistry (all stuff you can learn online) then you can synthesize just about anything in your garage, RDX, TNT, ANFO, PETN, HMTD whatever it is you're into, it's not as hard to make as you would think.
Nice video ! but this is nat an efficient method for amature... requires a lot of expensive equipment and this way you can only make 1 cone. Electro forming it si much easier and you can make a lot more & in different sizes with the same setup.
Lathes have forward and reverse functions don't they? I would think they do because if something gets binded or jammed it has to be able to relieve the pressure, i don't know.
I’ve made one although I’ve yet to test it, but i think it may perform even better than copper but isn’t normally used because it is easily damaged, btw þæöð?
Thanks Dave , it's only a waste when the final result isn't as good as you planned. Great channel Dave I didn't realize how much blasting went on in the suburbs or how close you can get to structures etc.
Thank Nux, I did a bit of testing wit LSC's and stuff ages ago when the right kind of fill was easily available but times have changed. Don't want to be a wet blanket but I can not over-stress that I think it is the mother of all bad ideas to cook up your own energetic materials for such things, it will almost certainly get you into trouble these days and depending on what you cook up, it could even get you killed. You evidently know a lot more about chemistry than me, but I know even the worlds best manufacturing plants in first world countries have had nasty accidents. Take care.
I get this is showing the whole process in detail, but man was it a struggle to watch this happen at 4am. Any reason for all the machining after the initial cast?
The copper cone was way to thick next time just buy a sheet and stamp a come out of it that's all you need. No need for all that casting and milling way to much work for such an easy peace to make. hard part is acquiring the plastic explosives or just making it your self. its actually very easy to make dynamite and mercury fulminate just very dangerous du to the nitroglycerin that could blow up for any damn reason!
@O H Sure, I'm dense. So are any number of wackos out there that might have a use for building a shaped charge. Why don't you articulate an opposing opinion rather than name calling? Might make you comment a little more interesting.
I have found in my 78 years on this earth that there is very few problems that one may encounter that can not be solved with the proper amount and proper placement of Hyper explosives. Worked for me! In country 68-69 82nd Airborne.
All the way D-6-2/101stABN/501/503INF ETS 7 aug 72
Both you guys are hero's just by being there! Thanks!👍👍👍
i have recently thought about doing this method to try it out.this cone looks to pack a decent punch. looks pretty viable but i would probably try a lost wax method. i was going to add tungsten powder to one to increase its density and a second control tester. just need to find the time and hopefully the copper provides a decent substrate for the powder. nickel is another good option they use bimetallic cones in some military setups. so many experiments so little time!
AllChemystery lost wax is viable but i don't know how you would get the tungsten or nickel powder to evenly mix with the copper plus you wouldn't be able to machine tungsten without a diamond tool or special grinding wheels.
Nux,s Channel lol, like you know anything about machining! You used a router bit to cut copper! Also their are two ways you cut with carbide inserts, you either "flood them", or leave them to dry cut, (cutting oil?) you fucking amateur! Lol
Shona O'Neill I checked out your channel on expert machining tips. Exactly what I thought I'd find. Keep those vids coming bro.
A simple vacuum will help pull all the gas out of the copper for a more homogenous copper and use talcum powder when adding the second layer of green sand for the bottom so that your upper and lower dont stick.
A decent shaped charge a la "partisans" is a wine bottle. Glass is extremely effective as a "jet" - much like copper. Tape the dynamite around the bottle but around the neck too to "angle" the sticks-a cone, pretty much. Face the bottom at the target. Soviet partisans were able to dis-able heavy vehicles and penetrate concrete and sever beams with just such a device!
you want an inverted cone with the point down for a shaped charge
Unfortunately glass has a lot of disadvantages... ( not talking about performances ).
@@poiu477 wrong way
Paul you def wat the point facing you and the inside of the cone to be stood off from the target so the glass has enough time to metal before hitting the ground per say
@@jeffjohnson7017well as ive found out it does not melt but rather is turned into particles going extremely face essentially weather through the armor or whatever at thousands of kilometers a second
Sheetmetal and a Sodacan !
But of course he couldnt anoy us with his milling machine that way 😎😂
Bit of fast forward. we have the tech.
Seems a bit too contrived of a process ... Pressing copper sheet into a die would seem like a much better solution.
Trrristan I've tried pressing cones as well and got some good results but anything over 20 mm dia has a high failure rate , casting is a better all-round solution for cone forming accuracy plus cone diameter is only limited by your crucible size .
Ok, I understand.
For the time and money [depending on how much one charges the job per hour] it would seem cheaper to begin with a solid copper bar.
Also, when casting such a thick wall for such a thin final piece, can you reuse all that chip, or will it burn up in the re-melting process?
Admittedly, if you are looking to NOT be traced, buying a copper bar would be a very and idea, and scrap wire / tubing would be a good idea, depends on how many legalities one is bringing into play.
Many bar charges are literally nothing but hydroformed copper tubing back packed with explosive.
With a high pressure press it is easily possible to deform a sheet or better yet, a hot copper bead into the desired weight and thickness.
An impact forge would strike a cone perfectly in one blow.
Delicious DeBlair hmm, my kinda lady
Wouldn’t it be faster just milling the damn thing from a solid copper rod?
A copper rod at that size would cost like infinite money ...
BS... infinite money !
On the other side its a question of relativity...
I dont kniw if you are sitting maybe in the jungle of papua guinea in a bamboohut !?
Out of THAT perspective it may be an "infinite amount of money" !?
😂
groovy music bro looks perty interesting i like bells
These guys are scratch machinists, must be paid by the hour.
I appreciate but a proper press and thin material and don’t forget lube mass produced
Why not just make a mold and use 15 ton press and copper sheet of right thickness . It doesn't need to be hidraulic one you could use truck tyre changing one and make a good stand for it . It would make process 20 times faster and alot cheaper
brate i ja sam mislio da probam sa presom samo da napravim kalup u obliku levka i nastavak za presu u obliku levka samo milimetar uži
Yep. But it seems all this work gets views.
@@douglasmoody3403 people seem to like work harder not smarter ...
@@DjordjeDjuricSRB Meni ovo nije problem problem je nabaviti tnt ili semtex u srbiji kako bi zavrsio sa kumulativnim projektilom.
@@kosovoisserbia8937 ne treba da kupujes eksploziv mozes da ga napravis lako samoje problem nabaviti potrebne kiseline poput azotne i sumporne koje su glavni sastojci eksplozivnih materija
surely one made by a forging process would be better?
does it need to be casted and machined? seems hammering copper plate in a deep die is easier.
It seems easier but the metal stretches and necks without lots of love and encouragement
yes
Anti bike lock shapie.
Gonna try pitching this to some investors wish me luck
I was thinking powdered copper and a strong press.
0_0 surprising results
Why powered . You could just use copper sheet and regular 15 ton press would be enough since copper is pretty soft
sintered efp could be interesting. its the kinetic energy of the copper that does damage so at such velocity even powdered copper might make a clean hole
I'm not going to ask what the powder is made of but what it looks like to me is damped flash powder
Using a Lathe one could make this out of a piece of copper round stock without the need for melting some but whatever works ? I did like the video though!
Thanks , round stock is fine but a bit pricey casting lets you use offcuts and scrap and the casting has less material to remove and the swarf can be remelted .
Assuming you have the proper safety qualifications and legal licenses to make one, you could do that method, but as Nux,s Channel said it would waste a lot of material. Think of the size of the copper stock you would need to get the same size cone, and how much material you’d have to remove. But if cost is not a concern that theoretically would work better because It would be much more consistent in strength and shape.
The most disappointing thing about entering adulthood was finding out that I could not buy an RPG.
All of these weapons you see like the rpg and even mk19 grenade launcher...I mean really anything the military has other than higher tech stuff is all possible for you to make in your garage. Even the deadliest of nerve gases like VX and Sarin gas can be made easily if you just took the time to research. I know because my friends dad made a German mg42 from scratch the guy had a mill and a lathe, and used scrap metal he came across on top of that he also built a real working panzerfaust and bazooka (yes this is all very very simple crude tech, the only reason you dont see much of it being done is because people dont post that sort of thing as it's highly illegal, but I know plenty of guys who have made stuff like that that works. That's why I always laugh at the gun control crowd...they really think a law would stop determined people from making military grade weapons in their garage over the weekends. Lol I'm telling you it's a joke to even talk about gun control...these guys were not terrorist, they were regular guys who had a little machinist experience that could be learned in no time. As for the explosives, so long as you research proper methods and have a decent understanding of chemistry (all stuff you can learn online) then you can synthesize just about anything in your garage, RDX, TNT, ANFO, PETN, HMTD whatever it is you're into, it's not as hard to make as you would think.
@Eric Mueller except that you can in some states... they are NFA items but if you can find one you can buy one.
Sweet ass sweet! Can figurines be made the same way?👍👍👍
Nice video ! but this is nat an efficient method for amature... requires a lot of expensive equipment and this way you can only make 1 cone.
Electro forming it si much easier and you can make a lot more & in different sizes with the same setup.
How many shaped charges do you need as a armature? Just asking! There is not so many use for this kind of devises.
@@horstboellinger6880 DIY guided rockets for starters...
Just me or lathe running wrong direction?
Its running in the right direction. Blame it on video camera trickery.
Lathes have forward and reverse functions don't they? I would think they do because if something gets binded or jammed it has to be able to relieve the pressure, i don't know.
Gun powder?
What are you planning on doing with the charge cone if you don’t mind me asking?
If TH-cam wouldn't ban me i could post a video of it being used. 😦
vimeo, minds
Nux,s Channel can you mention here what sort of penetration you are getting with a cone like this?
@@picramide
RPG-7 sort of penetration.
Is it possible to make a shaped charge with flash powder
No, too low velocity needs high explosive
How do you figure out how much copper is required?
Sympa✌️ merci 👍
Do you think lead liners or cones for shaped charges/EFP,s would be of any value?
I’ve made one although I’ve yet to test it, but i think it may perform even better than copper but isn’t normally used because it is easily damaged, btw þæöð?
Have you tried it yet?
Anyone know why makes copper spinning tops
Thanks a lot, bravoo,
Nice job, shame to blow it up.
Thanks Dave , it's only a waste when the final result isn't as good as you
planned.
Great channel Dave I didn't realize how much blasting went on in the suburbs or how close you can get to structures etc.
Thank Nux, I did a bit of testing wit LSC's and stuff ages ago when the right kind of fill was easily available but times have changed. Don't want to be a wet blanket but I can not over-stress that I think it is the mother of all bad ideas to cook up your own energetic materials for such things, it will almost certainly get you into trouble these days and depending on what you cook up, it could even get you killed. You evidently know a lot more about chemistry than me, but I know even the worlds best manufacturing plants in first world countries have had nasty accidents. Take care.
Is this Mr. Nuxall?
From le Jesuit?
Forging the cone, creates a better grain structure. Using molybdenum, tantalum, even gold cones are more distructive.
What was that little thing you were using to make the mold?
DecentGamer Do you mean the rammer that compacted the mold sand.
No the metal thing you were put the sand into with those shaped parts? Did you make that?
DecentGamer they are 50mm pipe I made all the parts myself .
I get this is showing the whole process in detail, but man was it a struggle to watch this happen at 4am.
Any reason for all the machining after the initial cast?
The cone is only 1.2 mm thick so its to thin to cast .
Its easier to watch if you go to bead earlier 👌
Isn’t that a lathe bit, not a router bit? No expert, but isnt a router like a mill for wood?
Oh nvm, i watched to the part where the roter bit came into play now XD
How about ordering on line
Seems has to make. And now it’s too small what’s up
Only micro schape left
The copper cone was way to thick next time just buy a sheet and stamp a come out of it that's all you need. No need for all that casting and milling way to much work for such an easy peace to make. hard part is acquiring the plastic explosives or just making it your self. its actually very easy to make dynamite and mercury fulminate just very dangerous du to the nitroglycerin that could blow up for any damn reason!
Ok,ale stačilo vylisovat z plechu :-)
Great way to have the FBI and nfa blown down your door too😂🤣
Good vid tho lol
Probably not a good idea to be manufacturing components of extremely dangerous weapons. You know, for moral, legal and safety reasons.
@O H Sure, I'm dense. So are any number of wackos out there that might have a use for building a shaped charge. Why don't you articulate an opposing opinion rather than name calling? Might make you comment a little more interesting.
@O H What's your point?
22 + minutes.
Try editing perhaps?
You know, to speed up the bore (boring?) process.
Yawn
Speed up your replay speed.
Erm. No.
Too small no good
Facevi prima a ricavarlo dal pieno
scarti e punte di mig
@@nuxschannel1433 con gli scarti lo fondi e ci fai un altro blocco
Il rame è morbido non si usurano le punte