Thou is truly an OG at subharmonic singing and it shows ! The guy developed so much agility within, in and out of the register that it's become a clean extension of his chest register. Truly an inspiration for those learning extended techniques !
I am a bass and have never gotten the hang of subharmonics. I am clean in chest voice to A1 and can fry to E1.... which on-mic and with EQ'ing is fine. Off-mic, my chest voice is more like B1-A4.
try to take a fry note and slide up to your normal speaking range. or slide from your falsetto to your chest voice. that can help with finding your subharmonics! :)
@@rufuz_z, over the past few months, many things have changed with my vocal range and skillset, as a matter of fact. Subharmonics have now became easy for me. th-cam.com/video/H2exPhVeQes/w-d-xo.html
So essentially these two things are very very similar, the difference is the the presence of the upper chest note in the subharmonic. So if the low note is gritty and wide sounding it’s chest fry, if it’s strangely controlled and sounds robotic it’s subharmonics. I sing both and I’m trying to figure out the difference
@@freddiestudio7668 as I have been strengthening and learning subharmonics I have noticed you essentially have to provide more diaphragm pressure into your chest fry to get the two octaves to pop
Love this, and I'm glad you included the subharmonics OG (and one of the most underrated Gospel basses), Ken Turner! I will say, though, I'm not sure about Eric Bennett's stuff below Ab1 or so...it seems like it's totally fry to me (not to say he's not a great singer regardless, though). Same with Jeff Pearles' Eb1. All in all though nice job showcasing the difference between these two techniques! Usually my rule of thumb is that Chest-fry is going to have more "press" and weight to the sound vs. the bigger, more indirect sound that subharmonics has to it. There are some definite hard calls to make between them in some clips, though, and to me the greatest challenge is telling apart modal vs. chest with just a TINY amount of fry in it when you get to the really low stuff!
Very nice. I somewhat recently found out about subharmonics and have been practicing a bit. The lowest I can hit in both chest fry and subharmonics so far is (with some consistency) an E1, although I’ve been able to get to D#1 with subs (inconsistently). My lowest chest is C2. Subs have been really fun so far.
man i just started learning subharmonics and while i can hit b and a1's pretty easily, they don't have much power behind them. can't wait to learn to project and resonate them better
6:55 Idk man, I know Tim has a great sound in his fry, and he mixes a lot of his notes, especially live. But I think this one was chest, it sounds too supported and whole to be fry, and I believe the fact that his mouth was (presumably) closed during this note, that it is chest as well.
Another great video! I think of all these I would argue that Jeff Pearles was chest. He is a naturally really low singer. That was a very well controlled smooth note. You should look up Christian Davis. Another amazing bass singer.
Thank you soo much !,maybe yeah jeff pearles has a crazy low range,yeah I've Been a huge fan of his work !,but I just could not find really low notes,I've heard his C#1 but that was only on one occasion so,I find it quite hard to find his lows
I am no voice teacher but,Chest fry is produced when chest and fry comes together in a way where the fry carries the chest notes to lower frequencies which allows the sound to have a chesty resonance,where as subharmonic would have a robotic/higher frequency sound and is produced through activating the vocal chords in a way where the voice drops by an octave
Maybe,I took a bit of risk by including him,I think he uses a very aggressive type of fry with his larynx all the way back and pushing for the note,so yeah I'm not so sure either
what a crazy coincidence in there being a comment from the last half an hour to a not-so-popular video uploaded 2 years ago AND Freddiestudio replying within 3 minutes of posting that comment… …I still can't get over Dan's subs, they're driving me CRAZY - HOW ARE THEY SO P H A T T
fry has little or none of the natural (or modal) tone in it, whereas the subharmonic is taking a modal note and compressing or flexing the voice box in a way to get a different part to start vibrating an octave or more down
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Thanks bro watching !
As always feedbacks are always appreciated!
Enjoy
Also sorry for the editing mistake,so there will be no part 2
Thou is truly an OG at subharmonic singing and it shows ! The guy developed so much agility within, in and out of the register that it's become a clean extension of his chest register. Truly an inspiration for those learning extended techniques !
Nicely said !
That was really cool! It’s a nice Idea to compare subharmonics to chest-fry notes. And you executed that idea very well!
Thank you bro !
Was thinking of putting out a part 2 of this,but it will be to short so 🤷🏼🤷🏼
I am a bass and have never gotten the hang of subharmonics. I am clean in chest voice to A1 and can fry to E1.... which on-mic and with EQ'ing is fine. Off-mic, my chest voice is more like B1-A4.
try to take a fry note and slide up to your normal speaking range. or slide from your falsetto to your chest voice. that can help with finding your subharmonics! :)
@@rufuz_z, over the past few months, many things have changed with my vocal range and skillset, as a matter of fact. Subharmonics have now became easy for me.
th-cam.com/video/H2exPhVeQes/w-d-xo.html
So essentially these two things are very very similar, the difference is the the presence of the upper chest note in the subharmonic. So if the low note is gritty and wide sounding it’s chest fry, if it’s strangely controlled and sounds robotic it’s subharmonics. I sing both and I’m trying to figure out the difference
Welll,its pretty easy to know the difference,subharmonic has to learned inorder to control it while chest-fry is always there in your register
@@freddiestudio7668 as I have been strengthening and learning subharmonics I have noticed you essentially have to provide more diaphragm pressure into your chest fry to get the two octaves to pop
Sometimes when I try singing a D2 with fry onset I can't immediately tell whether I hit a chest-fry or a subharmonic.
7:32 I can hear a high note too!MIND BLOWN.
Pretty cool subharmonic overtone
What cause it to be very loud?
I can sing f#1
@@ineedjazz5407 It depends how you place your voice while doing it, he also has a more nasal voice then usual which also compliments the effect!
Love this, and I'm glad you included the subharmonics OG (and one of the most underrated Gospel basses), Ken Turner! I will say, though, I'm not sure about Eric Bennett's stuff below Ab1 or so...it seems like it's totally fry to me (not to say he's not a great singer regardless, though). Same with Jeff Pearles' Eb1.
All in all though nice job showcasing the difference between these two techniques! Usually my rule of thumb is that Chest-fry is going to have more "press" and weight to the sound vs. the bigger, more indirect sound that subharmonics has to it. There are some definite hard calls to make between them in some clips, though, and to me the greatest challenge is telling apart modal vs. chest with just a TINY amount of fry in it when you get to the really low stuff!
5:23 that one is so short but so cool
Very nice. I somewhat recently found out about subharmonics and have been practicing a bit. The lowest I can hit in both chest fry and subharmonics so far is (with some consistency) an E1, although I’ve been able to get to D#1 with subs (inconsistently). My lowest chest is C2. Subs have been really fun so far.
Thanks for making this video! I will always find it funny how many bass singers feel the need to grow out their hair
man i just started learning subharmonics and while i can hit b and a1's pretty easily, they don't have much power behind them. can't wait to learn to project and resonate them better
Practice and in no time you’ll achieve it bruh 😎
That's a really good video idea! I love it!
Thanks dude !
How about giving some chest fry isolated like the subharmonic?
So we can learn the difference
6:55 Idk man, I know Tim has a great sound in his fry, and he mixes a lot of his notes, especially live. But I think this one was chest, it sounds too supported and whole to be fry, and I believe the fact that his mouth was (presumably) closed during this note, that it is chest as well.
I honestly don't think so,don't get me wrong Tim is one of my favorite's but,tbh I don't think he have G1 in pure chest but hey ! it may be chest !
@@freddiestudio7668 well now we have a live f#1 chest on his latest your man
No it was not it was chest-fry,Tim as much as i love him starts mixing around Bb1/A1 his live B1 was already fried
@@freddiestudio7668 no Tim does have a G1 in full chest but its hard to know because of how well his chest fry sounds like chest.
Can you link it to me ?
1:10 i thought that was a fart-
1:58 best sounding subharmonic. Sounds like chest voice.
Mirabal and Yang are the kings of Subharmmonics
I want a part 2 of this please
Maybe maybe
how'd you find that clip of ken turner at 3:30???
I always thought Colm sang with chest. It just sounded like a bit of fry in his tone.
Another great video! I think of all these I would argue that Jeff Pearles was chest. He is a naturally really low singer. That was a very well controlled smooth note. You should look up Christian Davis. Another amazing bass singer.
Thank you soo much !,maybe yeah jeff pearles has a crazy low range,yeah I've Been a huge fan of his work !,but I just could not find really low notes,I've heard his C#1 but that was only on one occasion so,I find it quite hard to find his lows
@@freddiestudio7668 could you please link his c#1?
@@BassManMatteo th-cam.com/video/5XC1XXAT_Zo/w-d-xo.html
Around 3:14
@@freddiestudio7668 I think that’s Christian Davis not Jeff pearles
I though you were talking about him lol yeah I was talking about Christian.
Just wow!
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Newbie question, maybe - what is a chest fry? Subharmonics, as I understand them, are achieved through fry, aren't they?
I am no voice teacher but,Chest fry is produced when chest and fry comes together in a way where the fry carries the chest notes to lower frequencies which allows the sound to have a chesty resonance,where as subharmonic would have a robotic/higher frequency sound and is produced through activating the vocal chords in a way where the voice drops by an octave
4:30 unfortunate clip to isolate lol
Colms A1 was chest
Maybe,I took a bit of risk by including him,I think he uses a very aggressive type of fry with his larynx all the way back and pushing for the note,so yeah I'm not so sure either
when he says "and" it sounds chest-fryish but that might just be because he slides up from fry into it. "spoke" and "that" both sound like chest
Could someone describe to us poor common folk what is the difference between subharmonics and chest-fry?
And where was Avi?
Chest fry is basically fry with chest support,subharmonics is mixing fry and chest in a way that it creates an octave drop
Also Avi Dont use CHEST FRY OR SUBHARMONICS
@@freddiestudio7668 what is that beautiful sound that comes from his mouth called?
Chest note
@@freddiestudio7668 thanks.
5:56 group?
10:35 what's his name?
Cecil Stringer
@@freddiestudio7668 thank you 😀
Sorry geoff knocks you all into a cocked hat
4:04 is a Bb (or an A#, if you will), not a G#
Literally the same thing , its just preference
All these time i was lied. They were actually using chest-fry and not chest voice lol
It is extremely difficult to spot the difference,most of these were easy for me as they were known for using the technique so it wasn’t as hard
what a crazy coincidence in there being a comment from the last half an hour to a not-so-popular video uploaded 2 years ago
AND Freddiestudio replying within 3 minutes of posting that comment…
…I still can't get over Dan's subs, they're driving me CRAZY - HOW ARE THEY SO P H A T T
@user-gh4ur4jq1e
I guess that's what you call fate :)
@@BangYongguk-sf8ly btw... are you in the Bass Singing Nation discord server?
Sorry if this is late but what’s the group at 4:40
Its not a group its a collaboration between Peter Barber and Rachel Querreveld
@@freddiestudio7668 ah, and thank you for the very quick reply!
Who are the singers at 13:03 and 14:40?
13:03 Is Eric Bennet
14:40 Is Darin Hebert
Thanks!
Chamando todos os brs 😃
Bro I can sing the all bass note that's in the video with the chest voice
What’s the video at 4:50
Club for five-Brothers in arm
3:36 video please
th-cam.com/video/LOm4rkwAvCU/w-d-xo.html
What’s the difference between the two
fry has little or none of the natural (or modal) tone in it, whereas the subharmonic is taking a modal note and compressing or flexing the voice box in a way to get a different part to start vibrating an octave or more down
Who is that at 3:55??
Clap it up dan
Video at 3:28?
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