Good deal dude. I love Prime, but luckily our discussions have been clear. I try not to hide pros and cons. It's a good bar, and I think you'll enjoy it, just not quite perfect
Thanks dude. I thought it deserved some good details on what you are looking at. With that price tag, I want people to understand and not just buy that shiny new toy.
I ended up going with the Marrs Bar... Never tried any sort of Hatfield/SSB, so relied on my 3D understanding and instinctual super power to unravel the mystery between the MB, transformer (T) & prime bar (PB). The T has a number of settings to adjust the camber angle & it's leverage. But evidently while trying to do some version of a squat you may also be doing your push or pull workouts. And a good morning (GM) isn't much different than using a conventional SSB. The PB, according to Mike (a robotic prick at Prime Fitness), is a one dimensional bar, ill suited for anything except a basic squat. A squat that they refused to recognize as a version of a high bar squat, front squat, or anything in between (and we know it's not low bar), so it's the 'Pat' of SSBs. So the MB had more versatility than the PB, but without requiring me to help it do its job like the T (in addition to a non-conventional GM). I do have a couple critiques of the MB, but at this point they're minor, and no piece of equipment is ever, ever perfect in every way.
I appreciate the comment and your thought process on your decision. I'm hoping the MARRS Bar lands in my gym in the near future so I can do a solid side by side. I never personally had any interest in the Transformer Bar. I could see if you can't front squat, back squat, etc. Having multiple options in one bar would be helpful. But otherwise, I see about 25 options that you'd use maybe 2 or 3.
@GrayMatterLifting ...and the MB can pretty much only do 3 different things. I can back squat, though it puts a lot of pressure on the neck area. But I can't front squat or do a GM with a barbell. So, as you said, you really don't need more than that.
Working on it. In the description I have a link to every review I've done. Working on a way for you to be able to REQUEST reviews so I know what people want to see
Nice review Joe! Describing it as the best hypertrophy goal oriented bar makes so much more sense now. Looking forward to FMTS comparison video...loved the rap at the end, happy lifting!
Thanks dude. I try and make sure my reviews are for the average home gym owners... So that storage piece is big. Trying to maneuver an unwieldy bar likely means I won't use it as much.
@@GrayMatterLifting I’m going to have to try to figure out how to hang on my wall horizontally, but I liked the good stuff you said enough to go buy one when I got done watching the video lol. Used your link 👍
Flex will do you good. He did one on cambered bars awhile back. And he owns the majority of the SSB type bars. Some day I might track them all down, but for now I focused on what I could do and dig into the Prime.
It feels like a very natural squat. What I mean is, the bar sits on your back and is just in that perfect spot. I personally would liken that to a high bar squat position, but I also personally do high bar even for my 1rm attempts. The bar just feels very comfortable where it sits.
Fantastic review. I really feel like it is fair, balanced, and straightforward. I really appreciate the transparency regarding how you received the bar. Great job! I also agree, it looks pretty rough
One of these days I'm going to replace my Kabuki Transformer Bar with this bar. Storage on the Kabuki Transformer Bar in a vertical position (9 bar holder) is frustrating and annoying because the collar can detach and the whole bar slams downwards. For that reason alone I want to get rid of it ... other than that, no complaints. I think the main appeal of the Prime Fitness Super Squat Bar is that you can load a lot of weight on it and it still feels comfortable, unlike a regular barbell. And unlike a safety squat bar, it doesn't move the weight higher and more forward, rather it moves it lower and backwards, which takes the torque out of the movement. The science says people lift 12% less with a safety squat bar compared to a barbell, but with the Prime bar, undoubtedly any lifter could lift more.
This is the one dude! Every time I use this bar I enjoy it. Give the code GGC a shot when you buy it. It's a 5% discount code for Prime. Not positive if it works on the bar or not.
thank you for being one of the first to review! how well do you think the bar would perform with single leg squat variations or lunges? i know it was made with a specific purpose, but do you think it can be versatile?
It can definitely handle those. You can see in the clip, I completely let go of the handles and spin around. So you could get it up on your back, then get situated without worry about it falling over, etc. While probably not the first intent, it'll work well.
I have not! Check the description, I have a link to Flex Marks The Spot. He is going to have a comprehensive comparison video coming. He has the Transformer, Prime, MARRs Bar, and more.
Pretty? Not quite. I really like a back plate as opposed to a back pad though. That’s cool. 51lb weight is tough😅 this was a fair, thorough review. Great stuff Joe!
I like the race car metaphor; no they just need a track car for the street than the masses. Or they could be like Ferrari and stay elitist. But who doesn't like a Ferrari?
Thanks! It felt like it fit right. And yeah, Prime doesn't like to call themselves elitist, but they definitely consider themselves a high end offering and understand that that means certain groups won't be able to make the leap.
Good note. Yes, I had a lot of people asking me questions about the bar in various ways that made me think I needed a primer of some kind. So feel free to skip ahead if you don't need that.
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This is truly a great review. Not shilling for Prime like a lot are doing these days. Fair review. Made me want it more despite its shortcomings.
Good deal dude. I love Prime, but luckily our discussions have been clear. I try not to hide pros and cons. It's a good bar, and I think you'll enjoy it, just not quite perfect
Really thorough 👏
Thanks dude. I thought it deserved some good details on what you are looking at. With that price tag, I want people to understand and not just buy that shiny new toy.
I love a balanced review from the perspective of a lifter.
Thanks dude. Doing my part to balance out the world.
I ended up going with the Marrs Bar... Never tried any sort of Hatfield/SSB, so relied on my 3D understanding and instinctual super power to unravel the mystery between the MB, transformer (T) & prime bar (PB). The T has a number of settings to adjust the camber angle & it's leverage. But evidently while trying to do some version of a squat you may also be doing your push or pull workouts. And a good morning (GM) isn't much different than using a conventional SSB. The PB, according to Mike (a robotic prick at Prime Fitness), is a one dimensional bar, ill suited for anything except a basic squat. A squat that they refused to recognize as a version of a high bar squat, front squat, or anything in between (and we know it's not low bar), so it's the 'Pat' of SSBs. So the MB had more versatility than the PB, but without requiring me to help it do its job like the T (in addition to a non-conventional GM). I do have a couple critiques of the MB, but at this point they're minor, and no piece of equipment is ever, ever perfect in every way.
I appreciate the comment and your thought process on your decision. I'm hoping the MARRS Bar lands in my gym in the near future so I can do a solid side by side. I never personally had any interest in the Transformer Bar. I could see if you can't front squat, back squat, etc. Having multiple options in one bar would be helpful. But otherwise, I see about 25 options that you'd use maybe 2 or 3.
@GrayMatterLifting ...and the MB can pretty much only do 3 different things. I can back squat, though it puts a lot of pressure on the neck area. But I can't front squat or do a GM with a barbell. So, as you said, you really don't need more than that.
Been waiting for this review so badly! Great job!
Is it possible to do front squats given the back plate design?
@@jimj.9291 No. You can do back squat variations like Hatfield's, box squats.. and things like good mornings. But no front squats, JM presses, etc.
Great review. Very fair with the Pros and cons. The Key takeaway is asking what are your goals.
Yep! What are you trying to achieve in the gym? That'll solve a lot of questions.
Awesome, honest review. Would love to see more reviews.
Working on it. In the description I have a link to every review I've done. Working on a way for you to be able to REQUEST reviews so I know what people want to see
Nice review Joe! Describing it as the best hypertrophy goal oriented bar makes so much more sense now. Looking forward to FMTS comparison video...loved the rap at the end, happy lifting!
Thanks dude, yeah I think the bar needs that context. Flex will do an awesome job with the comparison and I think is a big piece we need.
Killer review! Answered all the questions I had about it and I loved the thought you gave to storage as well.
Thanks dude. I try and make sure my reviews are for the average home gym owners... So that storage piece is big. Trying to maneuver an unwieldy bar likely means I won't use it as much.
@@GrayMatterLifting I’m going to have to try to figure out how to hang on my wall horizontally, but I liked the good stuff you said enough to go buy one when I got done watching the video lol. Used your link 👍
I appreciate this fair and honest review, Joe.
Thanks dude. I appreciate that. Looking forward to your thoughts on the Isolator.
@@GrayMatterLifting Thanks man. I'm looking forward to putting that video together.
Interesting. I think you were fairly comprehensive. I was looking for a 'roundup' style comparison, so I'll check out the Flex channel. Thanks.
Flex will do you good. He did one on cambered bars awhile back. And he owns the majority of the SSB type bars. Some day I might track them all down, but for now I focused on what I could do and dig into the Prime.
Thanks for the honest opinions Joe, stay true !
You bet dude! Thanks for checking in.
Great review. Loved the freestyling at the end, lol!
I was going to keep my rap career to a single with the UDA intro... but got requests from multiple people so I gave it a shot lol
Nice review. Even handed. Conversational tone. Relatable. Well done!
Thanks dude! Appreciate that.
Great review. One thing I don’t think you covered was if it FEELS like a high bar back squat or what? Thanks!
It feels like a very natural squat. What I mean is, the bar sits on your back and is just in that perfect spot. I personally would liken that to a high bar squat position, but I also personally do high bar even for my 1rm attempts. The bar just feels very comfortable where it sits.
Fantastic review. I really feel like it is fair, balanced, and straightforward. I really appreciate the transparency regarding how you received the bar. Great job!
I also agree, it looks pretty rough
Thanks my man! yeah, the bar just has a LOT going on. Not my typical favorite aesthetic.
One of these days I'm going to replace my Kabuki Transformer Bar with this bar. Storage on the Kabuki Transformer Bar in a vertical position (9 bar holder) is frustrating and annoying because the collar can detach and the whole bar slams downwards. For that reason alone I want to get rid of it ... other than that, no complaints. I think the main appeal of the Prime Fitness Super Squat Bar is that you can load a lot of weight on it and it still feels comfortable, unlike a regular barbell. And unlike a safety squat bar, it doesn't move the weight higher and more forward, rather it moves it lower and backwards, which takes the torque out of the movement. The science says people lift 12% less with a safety squat bar compared to a barbell, but with the Prime bar, undoubtedly any lifter could lift more.
@@TonyNovation it is a very comfortable bar. And I definitely find strength to be superior on this bar.
Excellent review as always. I’m sold as I just want a bar that puts my body in the most optimal position for quad dominant squatting.
This is the one dude! Every time I use this bar I enjoy it.
Give the code GGC a shot when you buy it. It's a 5% discount code for Prime. Not positive if it works on the bar or not.
@@GrayMatterLifting you’ve got to advertise that more you have other peeps spreading their codes all over social media!
@@garage_gym_connoisseur Yeah I'm not great at pushing my codes
Looks like the engineers at Prime had some fun with this one. Love it.
Oh for sure. It's like a roller coaster of a bar lol
Great review, Joe!
Thanks bud!
thank you for being one of the first to review! how well do you think the bar would perform with single leg squat variations or lunges? i know it was made with a specific purpose, but do you think it can be versatile?
It can definitely handle those. You can see in the clip, I completely let go of the handles and spin around. So you could get it up on your back, then get situated without worry about it falling over, etc.
While probably not the first intent, it'll work well.
Does this bar work well for good mornings?
It does! It's not a movement I regularly do... But @flexmarksthespot does it
Excellent review ~
And I want to know Do you still use it for squats now ?
Thank you
@@chentedi7377 used it yesterday! 405 x 5 for 3 sets. It's an awesome bar.
That’s a free movement hack squat!!
Nice review!
That's a pretty fair statement right there.
@@GrayMatterLifting that’s what I fist thought looking at the movement biomechanics. I imagine that is pretty easy on the lower back, right?
@@alessandro519 💯 still gotta brace and do all the good stuff, but being vertical like that is definitely a nice low back friendly squat
@@GrayMatterLifting nice! Thanks 🙏
I’m hoping you have used the kabuki transformer and this review will compare the two. Let’s see….
I have not! Check the description, I have a link to Flex Marks The Spot. He is going to have a comprehensive comparison video coming. He has the Transformer, Prime, MARRs Bar, and more.
Pretty? Not quite. I really like a back plate as opposed to a back pad though. That’s cool. 51lb weight is tough😅 this was a fair, thorough review. Great stuff Joe!
Thanks my man. Yeah not the prettiest bar I've ever owned lol
Have you used the mars?
I have not. It is on my list though. Part of my Pipeline voting for the year: graymatterlifting.com/review-pipeline/
Dad tunes! Epic.
Call me the white Vanilla Ice
Any idea how this compares to the Marrs Barr...?
I don't. I'd like to grab one in the near future for that exact reason... to compare... but I don't currently have any experience.
@@GrayMatterLifting Ok, thanks for your reply.
I like the race car metaphor; no they just need a track car for the street than the masses. Or they could be like Ferrari and stay elitist. But who doesn't like a Ferrari?
Thanks! It felt like it fit right. And yeah, Prime doesn't like to call themselves elitist, but they definitely consider themselves a high end offering and understand that that means certain groups won't be able to make the leap.
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Good note. Yes, I had a lot of people asking me questions about the bar in various ways that made me think I needed a primer of some kind.
So feel free to skip ahead if you don't need that.