@@guillermobiasini3755 all those Goku and Vegeta fan boys haha no just kidding as much as I like goku I think he should of stayed dead during the Buu saga same with Vegeta I mean they could of brought him back for the tournament and to train the boys for fusion but I didn't like how the elder Kai brought him back I was really looking forward to Gohan Killing Buu lol
@@sithlordbeerus503 that's really dumb they bring back everyone to life all the time what would be the difference with gokuor vegeta? Not bring him back because of what?? Cuz you guys want fan service for goten? Gohan from the beginning of the buu saga was already being made fun of in the tournament for turning weak. Vegeta was the one who pointed it out.
Zane Yates Pan is actually insanely powerful, people just don't realize it, she has crazy feats for just a base saiyan and being a kid, when she was 5 she flat out defeated 17 year old Goten with ease in the tournament, and as we can see in super, she was born being able to fly whereas even super prodigies like Goten needed to be taught, so all that just shows why she was actually able to knock Rildo on his back, even Trunks after seeing that realized that Pan is more powerful than he is, at least in base form anyway, my theory is that Pan inherited Gohan's mystic power and she's actually in that state all the time or its basically her base form which is the same for GT Gohan which explains why he's even stronger than her in his base form, something to do with the kaioshin power maybe, that's why she's pretty much nearing SSJ3 level in her base. Crazy right, just imagine how strong she'd be as a super saiyan and then trained by Goku and Uub, her potential is just crazy.
@@hyperrunner8531 there isno such thing as mystic power. the mystic gohan form is not an official form its created by fans. the real name is ultiamte gohan not mystic, mystic implies magic, gohan doesn't use magic and its just his potential unlocked. the best he can be in terms of power nothing else.
The revelation that Pan was meant to be little more than a damsel explains a lot. She was so unlikable because she was just a plot device that they didn't care about. I really hope Super does her justice and doesn't make her out to be weak and irrelevant like Gohan.
It’s sad that we have to say that about Gohan nowadays. To think this was the same guy who defeated cell and was the first to reach SSJ2. Oh how times have changed.
They should make her a fighting Genius and be able to go super Saiyan about a year younger compared to Goten and Trunks. I’d say the same with Bra. Have both Bra and Pan both go super Saiyan at a younger age and learn fusion. This would be great to make Goten and Trunks actually freaking train and be able to square up with Goku and Vegeta in power levels. Imagine 3 fusions from Goku-Vegeta, Goten-Trunks, and Pan-Bra. All three fighting some monster power. 3 musketeers in but in fusion. Anyway yes they should make her go Super Saiyan.
I think the one main disappointment with GT was the fact that Pan was not the star and she did not go super Sajyan. I think fans would have liked it much better if it wasn't all about kid goku instead.
@@tirkpierce6312 I just feel like he's dropping Weak vids like this that could have surfaced 3 years ago... Not in the age of broly. JUST To keep his channel Alive when in reality it will only do the opposite. Noone really wants GT like material these days.
Why wouldn't she? What she definitely need is more screentime, character development, and actually age. Time skip a little and focus on Pan, Trunks, and Goten.
Before watching. My thoughts on why DBS Pan is as strong as she is, is because all the ssj energy caused some effect when she was still in the womb when they did the SSG ritual. So with that. I think she can and she might go ssj in the future, depending how long they run the series for.
@@jarondratman ya but there almost identical in roles and yet kale went lssj while pan got shit stomped kale was weaker then almost all saiyans and needed caulifla the protect her similar to pan needing trunks and goku to protect her the exuse for her being a weak and and in destress character doesnt really work sense its been contradicted
@@lukejones7164 by that logic then pan was never a damsel pan always had a decent amount of confidence compared to kale kale even after she had a resolve she was still a damsel along with caulifla until they fused then they were actually able to defecnd themselves
I always figured she never did because unlike Goku, Future Trunks, Vegeta, and Gohan, she never had a moment where she was pushed to her limits and broke through her shell. All of them had a moment where they were forced to break their limits and let their anger overflow within them.
Always wondered this myself n thought of this question keep up wit all the info geekdom love ur stuff always bring up the most interesting things n stuff I always think about n wonder myself n usually come to the conclusion as me or come up wit sumthin that I've never thought of u r def the best person for Dragon Ball info on the web keep up the good work bro LoL🤣
The TH-camr Eliz had a cool theory that Saiyans could pass on what ever forms they reached to their offspring, Gohan will probably pass on his Mystic form to Pan, and Vegeta could pass god ki on to Bulla! It could also be how Goten and Trunks picked up Super Saiyan so easily!
Don’t care much for bra but pan as been my favorite character since I ever herd of Dragon Ball hope that she will reach super saiyan one day and in the future surpasses her dad
I'd love to see pan and bulla become super saiyan, especially bulla tbh. It'd be really cool to see Vegeta's other kid be a warrior who really follows in his stead, as opposed to trunks who really goes his own way and doesn't care about saiyan heritage much.
Yeah, why not. Especially since she will probably be a best friend to Bulla, she is not too much older. Also, since Gohan has found his strength again, he could train all the kids, so they can be protectors when Goku and Vegeta are away
I definitely think both Pan and Bulla should go Super Saiyan once they're a little older. A personal plot idea I would love to see explored past Z would be for Caulifla & Kale become mentors for Pan & Bulla, but the two duos being rivals sounds just awesome to me too.
Pan can probably go Super Saiyan, but since it looks like they're not going beyond the end of Z anytime soon, it looks like she'll be a baby for awhile, so it'll be forever before we find out.
Yes, I would love to see Pan and Bra become Super Saiyans and be part of the Next Generation. I just hope that Moro is the final Baddie Goku and Vegeta fight and that we FINALLY go past the end of Z!
@Ash Williams Everyone loves Goku and Vegeta it's just that at this point it's gotten tedious and how do you know Bra doesn't like to fight he character wasn't established until GT. One reason why I want to see Bra as a fighter is because I want her to be as different as her GT self as possible (And with a Cassie Cage like personality lol). I get what you're saying but I believe it's time for them to bring back Goku's hope that the next generation steps in, besides who's gonna stop the Zen-ohs in case they what to see more fighting.
I definitely want both Pan and Bra to be able to go Super Sayan. And although Vegeta may be a doting father now, I want him to train them both along side Trunks and Goten. I think Vegeta would make an awesome Sensei, as it looks like Caba may have put him in that role anyway.
Honestly I think it would be dope, and honestly I want to see pan come back as a character. She has one of the best designs in all of GT, and maybe we could get some focus back on the sayains?
Alright Geekdom101 I have a legit question for you. Is the ending of Dragon Ball Z still canon? I ask this because of 2 reasons A) Bra’s name is now Bula B) in the last episode, out of the three daughters (merin, Bra, and Pan), Pan is the youngest. However, we know that is no longer the case because Pan is born at the beginning of DBS and Bra is born at the end
You think she would when she thought Goku was killed by Baby. But nope. Or when she was against Oceanus Shenron but learned the Kamehameha instead... Like gives? She could've been the very first SSJ. But that goes to Caulifla.
TrainerblueTube Kales reason was decent because I think legendary super saiyans can go super saiyan more easier but cauliflas reason was absolutely dogshit, hopefully someone could think of a good reason instead of the backtingling?
If Super, or another Dragonball series, ever makes it to the GT era I'd like to see Pan get a better role than in GT. Super has already shown that Pan is strong, and has good enough KI control to fly so I don't see why she couldn't go Super Saiyan around the same age as Goten, if not sooner (Maybe she can be the first baby Super Saiyan, lol). I think that if Pan ever gets shown in her young teen years again I think that she should look relatively the same as in GT. She could have a new outfit, but I think that it should be similar to her original one from GT.
Going super-saiyan in that super-saiyan god ritual before she was born is probably why she had advanced flying abilities as a baby. Like flying really fast with a visible aura.
Actually, toei staff knew that fans wants broly and female super saiyan, so they created kale. Toei staff gave the idea to toriyama, then toriyama proceed to draw caulifla as kale's partner (toriyama love drawing characters in pair)
SSJ Pan just makes sense. They need to pass the mantle to the next generation. One of the things i love more about Naruto tbh. Dragonball has to make better use of it's characters and get off Goku's nuts
I don't mind the idea of Pan going Super Saiyan (heck, Goku Jr. did it and he's less Saiyan than her). This may sound strange, but I want to one day see Bulla in action when she gets older (Vegeta has to at least teach her how to defend herself), plus he was the only offspring of a parent with God ki.
Judging by Vegeta’s reaction at the end of Super and seeing Pan fly, I hope they make Bra the Princess of all Saiyans. Vegeta has become more engulfed with his family and I personally hope she has an edge like Vegeta, beating up on Goten and Trunks while getting Pan as a rival/friend.
What do you think about Akumo the father of all saiyans. I know this is fan made but have potential for good story. Pls answer Btw you are doing great job I love your videos
I'd like to see Pan initially go Super Saiyan but then be able to tap more into her human ki like Gohan did when he had his potential unlocked by the old Kai, sort of like a genetic trait he passed on down to Pan. She could have a well of untapped ki she could draw out more as a human than as a Saiyan. She'd think it looked cool at first going Ssj but with further training she can grow stronger without transforming.
Would love to see everyone who wasn’t in the Cell Saga actually grow, I mean Pan has grown more in 1 year than Goten and Trunks have for the entire time they have been alive.
S-Cells was a fantastic retcon on Toriyama’s part, as it allows anyone of even the smallest drop of Saiyan blood to turn SSJ. And it makes the advent of SSJ Goku one of the biggest events in the Dragonball multiverse as it was Goku’s tapping into his S-Cells that gave rise to a legion of Super Saiyans across the cosmos.
Bra didn't strike me as a fighting type from what I remember, but it would be cool to see her has Pan's Bulma. Like a sort of gadget maker or the brains of the duo.
Geekdom i think the next dragonball series should revolve around trunks pan goten and bulla and marron with piccalo and krillan and gohan training thew or a spin off that focuses only on them
Watching GT I’m surprised they didn’t make Pan go SSJ when fighting the robot trio. She starts raging and I feel like it would’ve been a nice moment of growth for her character. Up to that point she was being set up to grow and stand on her own feet and not cry as often.
I thought Videl went super saiyan like in the movie too. I definitely think Pan could go super saiyan. I'd like to see Bulla too. Thatd b like super saiyan bulma lol
Geekdom, I think part of the misinformation came from the Dragonball trading cards. I remember having a "Super Saiyajin" Pan card that displayed her with blonde hair and green eyes.
thing is they had a great moment for Pan to go super saiyan in GT during the fight with the sigma force she hits a high point of emotion when she thinks goku and trunks are dead, it does seem like her emotional rage would have lead her to super saiyan but didnt though she does kill one member of the signma force. maybe in the future we´ll get to see that realized
I think there should be a debate about cell when he absorbs goku in dragon ball gt. And how strong he would be compared to ssj4 ssjg etc. it would be interesting.
I could've sworn Caulifla was the anime creation while Kale was Toriyama's creation. I know I learned that from either one of your older vids or someone else's video.
I say she should have turned ssj, considering that goku jr and vegeta jr could do it no problem. Though I'm not sure how powerful would she be if she went ssj in gt. Super however, could give us an answer. Nice mythbusters episode.
I read somewhere she could go Super Saiyan but Toriyama didn't know how to draw a Female Super Saiyan during that time so she was never shown becoming one
Please let Goten, Trunks and Pan Age and get some character development. We need them training again and getting more involved.
I wouldn't mind if they kill off Goku and Vegeta and have Gohan train the kids or something like that
@@sithlordbeerus503 I am ok with that, but the fan base overall might not.
@@sithlordbeerus503 not kill Goku off, just only bring him in when REALLY needed.
@@guillermobiasini3755 all those Goku and Vegeta fan boys haha no just kidding as much as I like goku I think he should of stayed dead during the Buu saga same with Vegeta I mean they could of brought him back for the tournament and to train the boys for fusion but I didn't like how the elder Kai brought him back I was really looking forward to Gohan Killing Buu lol
@@sithlordbeerus503 that's really dumb they bring back everyone to life all the time what would be the difference with gokuor vegeta? Not bring him back because of what?? Cuz you guys want fan service for goten? Gohan from the beginning of the buu saga was already being made fun of in the tournament for turning weak. Vegeta was the one who pointed it out.
Pan & Bulla should be able to go Super Saiyan I don't see why Not
Ash Williams both of them should be able to turn Super Saiyan it doesn’t matter if he/she isn’t a fighter, Kale is a perfect example
Well it can be retconned for her not to be that way
Yeah just like Broly Toriyama can pretty much do whatever he wants and i wouldn't care about a small change for bulla to be a warrior princess 😉
The anime yeah but the manga i like
Bulla is half sayian so duh
Honestly one of the biggest dissappointments in GT, they should have let Pan go super saiyan at least once!
Of all the people who can go super saiyan how come pan never was one of them
Hell no
Gohan fault for not activating super saiyan many times
I think she should of gone ssj against Oceanus shenron, she wouldn't do much of a difference anyways
@@Lightpaladin720 Agreed, either that or when she had to fight brainwashed Gohan would have been pretty cool moments.
The thing that confused me is that Goku Jr. can go Super Saiyan, yet he's Pan's great-great grandson.
weird yes
Geekdom101 I think Pan is 25% Saiyan that’s why she can’t do it.
@@dalontesmith1085 but Goku Jr is like, far below 25%.
Some Guy Down the Street lol like 2%
3Block Ko yes and he transform into it like how on earth did that happen tho?
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Pan managed to hurt General Rilldo- a Buu level being.
I think when trying to calculate Pan's power level they use the feat where she restrained Dr. Gero, who is definitely no slouch.
Zane Yates Pan is actually insanely powerful, people just don't realize it, she has crazy feats for just a base saiyan and being a kid, when she was 5 she flat out defeated 17 year old Goten with ease in the tournament, and as we can see in super, she was born being able to fly whereas even super prodigies like Goten needed to be taught, so all that just shows why she was actually able to knock Rildo on his back, even Trunks after seeing that realized that Pan is more powerful than he is, at least in base form anyway, my theory is that Pan inherited Gohan's mystic power and she's actually in that state all the time or its basically her base form which is the same for GT Gohan which explains why he's even stronger than her in his base form, something to do with the kaioshin power maybe, that's why she's pretty much nearing SSJ3 level in her base. Crazy right, just imagine how strong she'd be as a super saiyan and then trained by Goku and Uub, her potential is just crazy.
Yep. Pan solos DBZ.
@@hyperrunner8531 there isno such thing as mystic power. the mystic gohan form is not an official form its created by fans. the real name is ultiamte gohan not mystic, mystic implies magic, gohan doesn't use magic and its just his potential unlocked. the best he can be in terms of power nothing else.
@@hyperrunner8531 no he was letting her win.
With the introduction to S-Cells it should be a guarantee that she can become a Super Saiyan.
Yeah, that reads like as long as you have little of saiyan DNA, you can do it.
Another myth that just didn't *Pan* out
WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THIS PUN! DSKLJFSF;
We really need to go past Z already If/When Super comes back.
And yes Bra/Bulla and Pan BOTH need to become Super Saiyans
The revelation that Pan was meant to be little more than a damsel explains a lot. She was so unlikable because she was just a plot device that they didn't care about. I really hope Super does her justice and doesn't make her out to be weak and irrelevant like Gohan.
It’s sad that we have to say that about Gohan nowadays. To think this was the same guy who defeated cell and was the first to reach SSJ2. Oh how times have changed.
Word! I didnt have one idea that, that was the case for her! LMAO 🤣🤣🤣 but for real now, I need to see her go Super ASAP!
Welp
I would like to see a form special to saiyans of quarter blood and less...like a form that shows this Saiyan is from earth
I wanna see not only Pan, but Bulla become a Super Saiyan as well. Bulla wasn't a fighter in GT, but it'd be cool if she was in DBS.
Sarban bra
If Goku Jr. can turn Super Saiyan, so can Pan. I also want to see what she would look like.
They BETTER make her pretty🕊✨!! 😓
Nice video. Really enjoyed it. I like the mythbusters series Haha and the intro xD
SS Pan and SS Bulla/Bra really do need to happen.
They should make her a fighting Genius and be able to go super Saiyan about a year younger compared to Goten and Trunks. I’d say the same with Bra. Have both Bra and Pan both go super Saiyan at a younger age and learn fusion. This would be great to make Goten and Trunks actually freaking train and be able to square up with Goku and Vegeta in power levels. Imagine 3 fusions from Goku-Vegeta, Goten-Trunks, and Pan-Bra. All three fighting some monster power. 3 musketeers in but in fusion. Anyway yes they should make her go Super Saiyan.
I think the one main disappointment with GT was the fact that Pan was not the star and she did not go super Sajyan. I think fans would have liked it much better if it wasn't all about kid goku instead.
Nobody:
Geekdom: Super saiyan pan exposed
Damn fool lol
Super needs to hurry up and come back cuz Geekdom sure has been dropping the most RANDOM pointless videos lately.
@@grace90xgracer40 i agree i appreciate the content though dont get me wrong
@@tirkpierce6312 I just feel like he's dropping Weak vids like this that could have surfaced 3 years ago... Not in the age of broly. JUST To keep his channel Alive when in reality it will only do the opposite. Noone really wants GT like material these days.
@@grace90xgracer40 pan isn't a GT material
I really can’t get enough of these. Ideas when you are just breaking down and explains facts. Such great vids
I’ve always thought that being born when Gohan still had the ‘ultimate’ power pan couldn’t go super Saiyan but instead had a genetic ‘ultimate’ power.
That’s a cool theory. She probably does have that same hidden potential.
Pan and Bra may eventually train under older versions of Caulifla and Kale. That would be cool
Why wouldn't she? What she definitely need is more screentime, character development, and actually age. Time skip a little and focus on Pan, Trunks, and Goten.
ElectroBlastLuigi And Bra
Yes.
@Story Time31 Yeah and Marron. I forgot about them lol
Don't forget about mah girl Bra\Bulla.
She was as usefull as a dead hamster in GT, I want her to be a real character in Super
Before watching. My thoughts on why DBS Pan is as strong as she is, is because all the ssj energy caused some effect when she was still in the womb when they did the SSG ritual. So with that. I think she can and she might go ssj in the future, depending how long they run the series for.
Choji she might have inheritted Gohan’s ultimate/mystice SSJ
She didn't go Super Saiyan in GT because Toei wanted her to be a generic damsel in distress character archetype.
if that were really true then how come kale also plays the damsel in distress role but still went super and ended up surpassing caulifla
@@seniorpepe9386 because Kale is a different character? I don't understand
@@jarondratman ya but there almost identical in roles and yet kale went lssj while pan got shit stomped kale was weaker then almost all saiyans and needed caulifla the protect her similar to pan needing trunks and goku to protect her the exuse for her being a weak and and in destress character doesnt really work sense its been contradicted
@@seniorpepe9386 Kale stopped being a damsel after ep.100. She was suffering from anxiety and a lack if confidence at the time before then.
@@lukejones7164 by that logic then pan was never a damsel pan always had a decent amount of confidence compared to kale kale even after she had a resolve she was still a damsel along with caulifla until they fused then they were actually able to defecnd themselves
I say yes to both Pan and Bra/Bulla just to see more female Super Saiyans kicking ass
Trunks, Goten, Pan, Bulla, Marron, and Uub would be a dope NextGen team!! 🤙🏽🤙🏽💪🏽
Yes gohan filling goku role
Jesus Christ died for our sins and rose again put your faith in Christ……………
I always figured she never did because unlike Goku, Future Trunks, Vegeta, and Gohan, she never had a moment where she was pushed to her limits and broke through her shell. All of them had a moment where they were forced to break their limits and let their anger overflow within them.
Goten and Trunks didn’t need those moments through.
I've been waiting for this video😩👍👍
Always wondered this myself n thought of this question keep up wit all the info geekdom love ur stuff always bring up the most interesting things n stuff I always think about n wonder myself n usually come to the conclusion as me or come up wit sumthin that I've never thought of u r def the best person for Dragon Ball info on the web keep up the good work bro LoL🤣
"Can Pan go super Sayian?"
That sentence goes well together
Damn, I still remember when Quaaman made a video about this
The TH-camr Eliz had a cool theory that Saiyans could pass on what ever forms they reached to their offspring, Gohan will probably pass on his Mystic form to Pan, and Vegeta could pass god ki on to Bulla! It could also be how Goten and Trunks picked up Super Saiyan so easily!
Don’t care much for bra but pan as been my favorite character since I ever herd of Dragon Ball hope that she will reach super saiyan one day and in the future surpasses her dad
We need the Arc where Goku and Vegeta take in the kids (Pan,Bulla, Gotten and Trunks) as they're pupils in the future 🤟🏾
I don't think bra ever will but that would make Vegeta proud. Great to hear from you geekdom it's been a while!!!
I'd love to see pan and bulla become super saiyan, especially bulla tbh. It'd be really cool to see Vegeta's other kid be a warrior who really follows in his stead, as opposed to trunks who really goes his own way and doesn't care about saiyan heritage much.
Future Trunks follows Vegeta's path. What are you talking about?
Love this video!
Yeah, why not. Especially since she will probably be a best friend to Bulla, she is not too much older. Also, since Gohan has found his strength again, he could train all the kids, so they can be protectors when Goku and Vegeta are away
April fools day idea: Strongest in Dragonball Yamcha (or Monaka)
Ricky-Simo Monaka is the strongest dont dis on him/her
I definitely think both Pan and Bulla should go Super Saiyan once they're a little older.
A personal plot idea I would love to see explored past Z would be for Caulifla & Kale become mentors for Pan & Bulla, but the two duos being rivals sounds just awesome to me too.
Bra isn't a fighter, going by the little we've seen of her. She'll likely take more after her mother.
@@NorrisFoxx I see where you're coming from. I only mentioned Bulla in the possibility that she could become a fighter since Vegeta is her father.
Lets get it
Love these Myth buster vids
*Yay we're all super saiyan!*
I will eat you!
Pan can probably go Super Saiyan, but since it looks like they're not going beyond the end of Z anytime soon, it looks like she'll be a baby for awhile, so it'll be forever before we find out.
Came here exactly three seconds before the notification popped up 💪🏿😂
I'm totally down for more episodes of people taking care of Pan. That scene with Goku, Piccolo and Pan is so precious
3:52 lmfao I don’t remember Goku using a finger gun in that fight
Hey Geekdom, can you do a video about Beerus vs Broly?
Silver Red ui Beerus one shot
beerus wins
Mojoe we don’t know if gogeta would beat beerus, same thing other way around
He did a video last month
@@mojoe5115 zamasu didnt kill any gods of destruction. He killed the supreme kais which made the gods of destruction die as a result.
Being the daughter of Gohan and granddaughter of Goku, Pan could become a seriously powerful warrior, along with Bra.
Now that the youtube filter is gone, whenever I want updated news about Dragon Ball I just write Geekdom
Yes, I would love to see Pan and Bra become Super Saiyans and be part of the Next Generation. I just hope that Moro is the final Baddie Goku and Vegeta fight and that we FINALLY go past the end of Z!
KCruzer I agree Super needs to go past the end of Z so we can eliminate the high stakes Factor
@Ash Williams Anything could change when Super comes back, besides Vegeta is just a lot softer now (Don't tell him that).
@Ash Williams Everyone loves Goku and Vegeta it's just that at this point it's gotten tedious and how do you know Bra doesn't like to fight he character wasn't established until GT. One reason why I want to see Bra as a fighter is because I want her to be as different as her GT self as possible (And with a Cassie Cage like personality lol). I get what you're saying but I believe it's time for them to bring back Goku's hope that the next generation steps in, besides who's gonna stop the Zen-ohs in case they what to see more fighting.
@Ash Williams Unless she's using the Dragon Balls while no one's looking. (Broly movie spoiler)
@Ash Williams And will still blame Goku.
I definitely want both Pan and Bra to be able to go Super Sayan. And although Vegeta may be a doting father now, I want him to train them both along side Trunks and Goten. I think Vegeta would make an awesome Sensei, as it looks like Caba may have put him in that role anyway.
Definitely want a Super Saiyan Pan and for her and Bra/Bulla to learn fusion from Goten and Trunks
Honestly I think it would be dope, and honestly I want to see pan come back as a character. She has one of the best designs in all of GT, and maybe we could get some focus back on the sayains?
Geekdom I like that beat at the end of the video, it's got a Wu-Tang sound...
Alright Geekdom101 I have a legit question for you.
Is the ending of Dragon Ball Z still canon?
I ask this because of 2 reasons
A) Bra’s name is now Bula
B) in the last episode, out of the three daughters (merin, Bra, and Pan), Pan is the youngest. However, we know that is no longer the case because Pan is born at the beginning of DBS and Bra is born at the end
You think she would when she thought Goku was killed by Baby. But nope. Or when she was against Oceanus Shenron but learned the Kamehameha instead... Like gives? She could've been the very first SSJ. But that goes to Caulifla.
TrainerblueTube Kales reason was decent because I think legendary super saiyans can go super saiyan more easier but cauliflas reason was absolutely dogshit, hopefully someone could think of a good reason instead of the backtingling?
If Super, or another Dragonball series, ever makes it to the GT era I'd like to see Pan get a better role than in GT.
Super has already shown that Pan is strong, and has good enough KI control to fly so I don't see why she couldn't go Super Saiyan around the same age as Goten, if not sooner (Maybe she can be the first baby Super Saiyan, lol).
I think that if Pan ever gets shown in her young teen years again I think that she should look relatively the same as in GT.
She could have a new outfit, but I think that it should be similar to her original one from GT.
Going super-saiyan in that super-saiyan god ritual before she was born is probably why she had advanced flying abilities as a baby. Like flying really fast with a visible aura.
She literally became a supersayian before she was born, that gotta be a record.
1:00 I'm pretty sure Kale was in the manga? I think you may have misspoke Geekdom.
He kind of did, Toriyama didn’t make Kale and he’s not in charge of the current manga.
Actually, toei staff knew that fans wants broly and female super saiyan, so they created kale. Toei staff gave the idea to toriyama, then toriyama proceed to draw caulifla as kale's partner (toriyama love drawing characters in pair)
Pan better become a Super Saiyan
SSJ Pan just makes sense. They need to pass the mantle to the next generation. One of the things i love more about Naruto tbh. Dragonball has to make better use of it's characters and get off Goku's nuts
pan needs more support
Loving that outro music,...lol
Quick ?.....
Would u be. In favor of a gt continuation of the 100 yr time skip
With pan?...
The animation in GT is low-key goregeous!
I wouldn't say "gorgeous"
@MachineGunMike true...
@@thehomiedan6378 how come bro?
@@omegaink5635 I mean don't get me wrong GT has great animation at times it's just that gorgeous is a bit much imo. I get where your coming from tho
@@thehomiedan6378 I feel you. I just love retro dragonball tho...
I don't mind the idea of Pan going Super Saiyan (heck, Goku Jr. did it and he's less Saiyan than her). This may sound strange, but I want to one day see Bulla in action when she gets older (Vegeta has to at least teach her how to defend herself), plus he was the only offspring of a parent with God ki.
Judging by Vegeta’s reaction at the end of Super and seeing Pan fly, I hope they make Bra the Princess of all Saiyans.
Vegeta has become more engulfed with his family and I personally hope she has an edge like Vegeta, beating up on Goten and Trunks while getting Pan as a rival/friend.
What do you think about Akumo the father of all saiyans. I know this is fan made but have potential for good story. Pls answer
Btw you are doing great job I love your videos
Oh. So they pretty much confirmed how worthless Pan is in GT. Debate over
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Booo
I really hope they make Pan a Super Saiyan at some point. Maybe as a little kid like they did with Trunks and Goten in Z. That would be adorable.
I'd like to see Pan initially go Super Saiyan but then be able to tap more into her human ki like Gohan did when he had his potential unlocked by the old Kai, sort of like a genetic trait he passed on down to Pan. She could have a well of untapped ki she could draw out more as a human than as a Saiyan. She'd think it looked cool at first going Ssj but with further training she can grow stronger without transforming.
Would love to see everyone who wasn’t in the Cell Saga actually grow, I mean Pan has grown more in 1 year than Goten and Trunks have for the entire time they have been alive.
I hope pan gets like more in super such as being like a saiyan warrior.
Uub training with Pan.
Thank god, i thought this video would debunk that Pan will never became a SSJ despite the claim in Daizenshuu 7 that she can
S-Cells was a fantastic retcon on Toriyama’s part, as it allows anyone of even the smallest drop of Saiyan blood to turn SSJ. And it makes the advent of SSJ Goku one of the biggest events in the Dragonball multiverse as it was Goku’s tapping into his S-Cells that gave rise to a legion of Super Saiyans across the cosmos.
I kind of hope Toriyama rewrites GT. The Baby and Shadow Dragon arcs, in theory, have potential
Bra didn't strike me as a fighting type from what I remember, but it would be cool to see her has Pan's Bulma. Like a sort of gadget maker or the brains of the duo.
Geekdom i think the next dragonball series should revolve around trunks pan goten and bulla and marron with piccalo and krillan and gohan training thew or a spin off that focuses only on them
I would love pan to age get some character development & meet kale and Caulifa to train or something! Would be dope 👏🏾
Watching GT I’m surprised they didn’t make Pan go SSJ when fighting the robot trio. She starts raging and I feel like it would’ve been a nice moment of growth for her character. Up to that point she was being set up to grow and stand on her own feet and not cry as often.
I thought Videl went super saiyan like in the movie too. I definitely think Pan could go super saiyan. I'd like to see Bulla too. Thatd b like super saiyan bulma lol
Of course, other than fighting/power stats, there was no "official" confirmation or information that this card was a sneak peek of things to come.
Geekdom, I think part of the misinformation came from the Dragonball trading cards. I remember having a "Super Saiyajin" Pan card that displayed her with blonde hair and green eyes.
Is it just me that’s been getting a lot of audio skips in Geekdoms videos? Not just this one, some of the last videos have had audio problems for me.
Go into your apps settings and clear the cache for youtube
Watching it on the Xbox one.
Hey man idk I think pan is getting a super Saiyan form in the new movie coming out .I'm happy
thing is they had a great moment for Pan to go super saiyan in GT during the fight with the sigma force she hits a high point of emotion when she thinks goku and trunks are dead, it does seem like her emotional rage would have lead her to super saiyan but didnt though she does kill one member of the signma force. maybe in the future we´ll get to see that realized
Actually, Pan would have became a Super Saiyan during her speech to Great Ape Baby.
Before that I wanna see teen goten and teen trunks ! Why in the world haven’t they age . Could you make a video on that too?
0:23 I WENT TO COLLEGE!!!-Plankton(Cell)
I think that would be really cool if pan and bra become the next generation of fighters and be able to go super sayain
I think there should be a debate about cell when he absorbs goku in dragon ball gt. And how strong he would be compared to ssj4 ssjg etc. it would be interesting.
Hey geekdom, what do you think happen to future trunks in GT
Wait...are we sure S-cells weren't just something exclusive to the saiyans from that universe? Because that's the impression I got.
Woah I'm early
Remember when geekdom used to after that shockingly loud blue copyright message at the beginning of his mythbuster videos......good times
I could've sworn Caulifla was the anime creation while Kale was Toriyama's creation. I know I learned that from either one of your older vids or someone else's video.
I read somewhere that Pan COULD become a super saiyan but didn't because she had better control of her emotions
I say she should have turned ssj, considering that goku jr and vegeta jr could do it no problem. Though I'm not sure how powerful would she be if she went ssj in gt. Super however, could give us an answer. Nice mythbusters episode.
Huh I thought u did this
Before we kw bout pan not turning ssj
I read somewhere she could go Super Saiyan but Toriyama didn't know how to draw a Female Super Saiyan during that time so she was never shown becoming one