GoPro Hero 12 vs DJI Action 4: Ultimate Low-Light/Night Comparison Test

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  • Here’s your complete low-light comparison of the GoPro Hero 12 Black to the DJI Action 4, covering everything from late afternoon footage in the trees till sunset to city scapes and pure darkness. Buy the GoPro Hero 12 Black here (amzn.to/3LykYUg) or DJI Action 4 here (amzn.to/3PT5yN8) - which helps support the channel, thanks!!!
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  • @User57655
    @User57655 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    Seems that it comes down to whether you want a camera that’s good in day and fine at night (DJI) or excellent in day and terrible at night (GoPro)

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  ปีที่แล้ว +58

      A reasonable nutshell summary.

    • @canyonblue737-8
      @canyonblue737-8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I hear you but I'd say it maybe a bit different... "a camera that's good in the day and pretty bad at night (DJI) or excellent in the day and terrible at night (GoPro)"

    • @User57655
      @User57655 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@canyonblue737-8 Yeah true, but have to be honest the iPhone 14 footage at the start was the benchmark and against that the DJI looks fine. For what it's worth, I think the iPhone looks pretty bad actually considering how much Apple touts the camera as 'Pro'.

    • @THE_HMRC
      @THE_HMRC ปีที่แล้ว

      👍 Boo Yah!

    • @goringo_
      @goringo_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Want camera who does best stabilization during mountain bike trail ride in shades of the forest during the day. Those jitters when you run in the forest are not nice..

  • @tomdchi12
    @tomdchi12 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Great point about deciding what your priorities are. I don’t expect an action camera to do much in low light. The DJI is obviously better in real low light, but in moderate light, the GoPro is doing a better job of protecting highlights while the DJI cam is clipping them. Also, this is reminding me of just how long it’s been since I’ve been to Amsterdam, Utrecht and the Netherlands in general! Thanks for sharing that beautiful evening bike ride!

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!

    • @Havetsvarg
      @Havetsvarg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Easily fixed with adjusting the EV to -0.3 or even to -0.7. out of the box the auto exposure seems to prioritise differently thus blowing out the highlights. While the H12 footage often times looks a touch (too) dark as a trade off. So either controlling EV or actually changing to manual and flat profiles changes the quality of the action 4 by a lot.
      Granted, then it becomes more of a hassle if you just want an action cam that you operate in a set-and-go fashion.

  • @hoangpro102
    @hoangpro102 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Perhaps This is the most realistic video I was looking for, thanks for leaving it original

  • @norgtube
    @norgtube ปีที่แล้ว +5

    it would be interesting to see how much info there's left in those gopro shadows because it's not blowing out highlights like the DJI but it's also a full stop underexposed.

  • @kiyotoishii4833
    @kiyotoishii4833 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Both cameras are great. GoPro seems to have more detail quality even-though under low light condition but stabilisation isn't great after the sunset. Action 4 is much brighter and better stability under low light condition (minus detail quality). It's great to have both cameras.

    • @MrWiseinheart
      @MrWiseinheart ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah basically if you can afford it Go pro 12 for the day and the Action "4" the night

  • @SirCrashaLot
    @SirCrashaLot ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DJI always looks bit overexposed in the day, but so much better in low light, tough choice now. I guess both?

  • @michaelpolakowski7301
    @michaelpolakowski7301 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This might be straying outside the scope of your comparison, but I'd be interested to see what can be done with each camera's video in post-production. Underexposed imagery often contains details that aren't visible until enhancement with brightness/contrast/gamma adjustments, etc., but once the sensor is saturated, those details are gone.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I wanted to avoid that rabbit hole. For example, GoPro has LOG format, and DJI has D-LOG, but DJI doesn't permit D-LOG with Low Light Mode. So then you're back to an Apples to Oranges comparison, which only muddies the water even more.

  • @scstudios8
    @scstudios8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this is all down to the low light option. Gopro is basically 1 stop too dark at night. If gopro has a way to set it to some low light option, that may be the difference. It looks like dji has that low light option, which I assume all it does is bump the ev up 1 stop when light levels drop to a certain point. It really looks like that works well.

    • @cleggycyclist
      @cleggycyclist ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GoPro give you the option in the settings to change how it exposes. So give it +1 at night to let more light in (and grain/noise) or give it -1 in bright sun to darken the image.

  • @ricardolourizela5961
    @ricardolourizela5961 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If you use the correct settings for low light shooting - 24fps with 1/48th shutter speed (180 degree rule), their respective log / flat modes and then you correctly color graded the footage the results would be significantly better. If you really asked both brands what the best settings for low light were and if they really answered 30fps non-log/flat modes their representatives either have no clue what they're talking about or they were fooking with you.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I always find comments like this funny, because it’s someone who thinks they’re smart, but actually doesn’t know what they’re talking about. If you did, then you’d know that you can’t actually enable LOG mode in conjunction with DJI’s low light mode. If you actually wanted more flexibility to grade, you’d also increase bit-depth, but even GoPro’s top engineer clearly stated in a conference call that doing so isn’t going to change the light properties of the camera in low light conditions meaningfully.
      Likewise, color grading any footage will make it appear better, but it’s still crap in, crap out. All you’re effectively doing is brightening an image at that point, which can help, but isn’t any different than cranking the ISO and watching either stabilization reduce or noise increase.

    • @ricardolourizela5961
      @ricardolourizela5961 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​​​@@DcrainmakerI always find comments like this funny, because it's always a clueless TH-camr arguing with a professional filmmaker and thinking they know better. It makes for some funny reading, but it gets old.
      Keeping this simple, so you can follow, the way to improve low light IQ is to always record in as low an fps as you possibly can. If you have the option of recording at 24fps, you do it. You're recording at 30fps, so you're already doing it wrong.
      If your focus is to maximize IQ, you do not record in a preset low light mode - the only thing that does is to apply an aggressive in-camera noise reduction algorithm, which obviously destroys the footage. The solution is to record in a mode that preserves as much detail as possible (log or flat), with NR as low as possible, and then apply a proper NR algorithm in Resolve Studio. The preset low light mode is there to make things faster, not better - if your focus is IQ, that is never the way to go.
      Finally, the reason you always color grade (from a log / flat profile) is to avoid the unnaturally warm and oversaturated colors these action cameras usually go for - 80% of your footage looks awful.
      Again, all from a professional filmmaker point of view - for an amateur YT video this is probably good enough.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ricardolourizela5961 "If your focus is to maximize IQ, you do not record in a preset low light mode - the only thing that does is to apply an aggressive in-camera noise reduction algorithm, which obviously destroys the footage." - The problem is, that's factually untrue. Go try it. Don't record in the low-light mode and see how bad it is. Because it's not just about light, it's about stabilization. That's the thing you're missing in this entire picture. On an action camera there are far higher levels of stabilization algorithms occurring, and those algorithms account for the exact movement of the camera. When you go to DLOG mod on the Action 4, those algorithms are significantly reduced. So sure, you get a flatter picture that you can pretend to pull more light out of, but you're left with mush for an image. Everything you said is perfectly fine for a normal camera, but not an action camera, and frankly, not most cameras in 2023 with far greater degrees of computational photography happening.

  • @shepshape2585
    @shepshape2585 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm the Boomer who's still using his GoPro Hero 4 Black and I'm quite content with the footage I get. I also love my DJI Air 2s drone. I tend to find that chasing the latest technology is expensive and you're better off waiting. Buying a model that's 3, 4, 5 models back saves you quite a bit of money, and in most cases, you're not sacrificing too many options. I mean, if you're making videos as a top TH-camr or you have some other kind of business where the extra bit of crispness is worth the money because your clients are paying you good money, then by all means, have at it. But if you're just shooting video for your own use, does this year's model really stand out over last year's model? Or the model from three years ago?

  • @Moscow4K
    @Moscow4K 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Для ночной съемки на рынке камер есть девайсы стоимостью 30.000+++ euro, и то изображение у них не на много лучше. Так что вполне можно довольствоваться тем, что есть + настроить хороший постпродакшен. Будет приемлемо) И кстати: в ночном режиме рекомендуют отключить все режимы стабилизации в камере, и использовать карданный подвес. Это уменьшит тряску картинки и намного ее улучшит. Так же советуют выставить низкий уровень резкости. Буду пробовать) Автору - благодарность за видео!

  • @alexei98700
    @alexei98700 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Go pro 12 is my first action camera. I had her for two weeks. During this time I tried all possible options. But I couldn’t get it to shoot at least satisfactorily in low light conditions, without a stabilizer. The whole problem is that to avoid blurring while moving, you must set the shutter speed to 250 or higher. This makes the video very dark. You should use ISO 3200-6400 in this mode. This adds a lot of noise. And still the picture remains dark. I also tried to fix this in post-processing, but the result was unsatisfactory. I tried shooting without stabilization and then using gyroflow to stabilize it. Filmed in hdr and gp-log. I installed the labs firmware and played with different settings there. Nothing helped. I'm tired of the fact that my $100 phone takes better pictures in the evening. Today I sold the camera. In a nutshell, owning it can be described as I love it and I hate it. She is beautiful during the day. And in the evening it's just a nightmare

  • @LactoseTolerant50
    @LactoseTolerant50 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you want a night camera, I suggest the insta360 ace pro, insane difference

  • @ricarmig
    @ricarmig ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The DJI makes the same error as on my pocket 2: on day light it's 2/3 higher exposure as it should! DC rainmaker, can you compare both but the dji exposure -0,7 to match thegopro

  • @Wastelander13
    @Wastelander13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At the first part at the lake I liked the Gopro better but later, from 8 pm on, the DJI was better. Just my opinion. Cheers.

  • @tonytuyen4815
    @tonytuyen4815 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gopro 12 is so good. You can see cloud, clear sky on video of gopro 12, but video is so smooth on Dji Action 4

  • @RONNYPLAYS
    @RONNYPLAYS 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice. Go pro hero 12 is more sharper and natural video, although slightly darker in night mood, but natural yellow light yet. Thanks A great comparison. Relatively Go Pro Hero is cheap as well.

  • @TakeBetterPhotos1
    @TakeBetterPhotos1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fabulous comparison! Do you have an idea of how bright things were at tipping point between GoPro winning and DJI winning? Is it possible to reverse-engineer the EV or lux levels from the metadata of the footage or any still photos taken at the time? I'd guess 400 lux, but I could be miles off. Thanks for all the work in such a thorough comparison.

  • @eden4949
    @eden4949 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These look so much better than what I've been able to get on my insta360 one rs, that one was so griany it's not usable at all

  • @taylorhead9842
    @taylorhead9842 ปีที่แล้ว

    You asked the companies for their "Low light" settings and said DJI says no rocksteady + then the first clip you show RS+? When RS+ is on it turns off the low light image enhancement, but if you use EIS Priority setting in low light ON if you prefer to have stabilization over a brighter cleaner image when in lower light. When you turn it on it even says it will remove motion blur. You'll tend to get a darker image like the go pro is when you're in lower light, but when you're in actual lower light the opposite effect happens when the go pro has the jitters and action4 has brightness and stability like in clips: 8:40, 8:51, 12:56. The easiest comparison to make is just try to use both cameras in doors.

  • @lucky_mvmt
    @lucky_mvmt 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi everyone ! I am planning to buy a action camera and now getting confused between GoPro 12 and dji action 4. From what i could see here in comparison gopro is much better and sharp in daytime but dji is very good in comparison to GoPro at night . As for me i spend most of my time in day time doing stuffs so i personally find GoPro to go with now as i have that budget only. Please share your reviews.

  • @honestnerd
    @honestnerd ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder why your action 4 looks so terrible/soft. Just saw like 10 other reviews and the gopro12 almost always looked softer than the action 4, but your video is different. Any sharpness settings that have been altered in either of them? Just curious to know before purchasing one or another. Thanks!

  • @edselharrison
    @edselharrison ปีที่แล้ว

    GoPro's HD has done a good job at reducing blown out highlights, but a poor job in raising the brighness on the shadows. Seems like they've only help solve half of the HD equation.

  • @YourTioTravels
    @YourTioTravels ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are they ever going to make an action camera built especially for low light. My phone currently gets way better picture in low lighting.

  • @skypowergb3842
    @skypowergb3842 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wonder what some photos of milky way look like 30s exposure , max iso. while dji may capture more light it may not be that high quality

  • @skdhrhd
    @skdhrhd ปีที่แล้ว

    Or my god. This video is super awesome. Thanks a lot

  • @andrewlcraft1
    @andrewlcraft1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sunrise to sunset = GoPro. In true low light, the DJI is obviously way better. But really, thats when its time to put away the action cam, and break out a real camera.

  • @SUPERSTARSSTYLE1YOUTUBE
    @SUPERSTARSSTYLE1YOUTUBE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    action 4 really good for night

  • @heymrguitarman7637
    @heymrguitarman7637 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kinda think if you're filming yourself at night then you'd definitely want a light on top and if you're filming away from yourself then you'd want a non action camera. I'll be buying the GoPro as day time image wise it's much better, but the GoPro is definitely much worse in this test

  • @alakeli
    @alakeli ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent job

  • @Coli272
    @Coli272 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think if you use a ND filter for the DJI for daytime use you can expect some very good results to avoid the over exposure or even test around with the Shutter speed / manual mode.
    GoPro is still very solid in daytime use but looks really bad and dark in evenings 😕

  • @eternoprata6338
    @eternoprata6338 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you use gimbal? or basic hand selfie stick ?

  • @mr.goodguy584
    @mr.goodguy584 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think go pro settings in low light not been set properly, but ofcourse DJI win

  • @kristofeight9668
    @kristofeight9668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both cameras are terrible at night, and I wouldn't use them at all, in addition action 4 has unacceptable stabilisation at night, jittering all the way. Overall at the day I prefer gopro12, at least sky has very nice exposure and sun sets looks better. Image is a bit darker than action 4 but shadows can be pulled up

  • @subswithoutvids-dw6dv
    @subswithoutvids-dw6dv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DjI might over expose in daylight. But it has stabilizer.
    You can’t use any video editor to eliminate over exposure.
    So if you have dji you better not filming under sunlight.
    If you have GoPro you better not filming at night.

  • @nirvana4698
    @nirvana4698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you tried increasing the ISO on gorpro 12? Does that help in low light? Yes, there might be some noise in the footage but it can be easily eliminated in post..

  • @ww9
    @ww9 ปีที่แล้ว

    大疆的色彩有点偏白,太阳光线全部曝掉了 3:43

  • @ForTheForsaken
    @ForTheForsaken ปีที่แล้ว

    May I ask how the fps would affect the amount of light let into the camera?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In DJI’s case specifically, their low light algorithm only works for 30FPS or less, meaning its processor limited.

    • @ForTheForsaken
      @ForTheForsaken ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dcrainmaker That's a strange connection they have made between the two but that explains it, thank you.

  • @gukumary584
    @gukumary584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks ther are not same level in the night

  • @阿维亚罗
    @阿维亚罗 ปีที่แล้ว

    那个更接近现实

  • @superfost2001
    @superfost2001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny that, i thought the best was your iPhone shots! (ps no fanboyism: I have a Samsung Fold Z3) 😂

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup, I’d agree!

    • @veryboringname.
      @veryboringname. ปีที่แล้ว

      At 1:37 I much prefer the colours on the DJI to the iPhone. The iPhone makes the colour of the wall behind Ray nearly the same colour as his tshirt, and the sky is looking drab. Not sure what it actually looked like in reality though!

  • @KSAEXPO25
    @KSAEXPO25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DJI color is totaly washout !
    GO PRO - IOS
    DJI / INSTA360 / etc - ANDROID
    PERIOD!

  • @AQBPlays
    @AQBPlays 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GoPro is garbage in low light. However, both would massively benefit from a quality gimbal in those conditions

  • @steelorse
    @steelorse ปีที่แล้ว +19

    After doing many tests, the provided GoPro settings are not good. The 5.3K, strangely, makes the image less appealing and introduces more grain; 4K is the top choice. Then in the settings, you should set the maximum ISO to 400 and MOST IMPORTANTLY, for color management, never leave it on "natural" but always choose "flat". It's amazing how much more detail you get, better shadows, and an overall better image compared to "natural", which generally ruins the image, regardless of conditions but ESPECIALLY in the dark. It's a game changer! In short, the best settings for a GoPro are 4K30, 400 ISO MAX, Flat colors, and stabilization at the minimum (not turned off, but at the lowest setting). This way, you save on battery and avoid motion blur in low light conditions! With these settings, the GoPro becomes an entirely different camera.

    • @marcoroams
      @marcoroams 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very interested to try this my friend 😎

    • @PhilipBlank
      @PhilipBlank 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I may have to give this a try! Thanks for digging and sharing a tip that seems like a potential quality boost! My footage inside a car on a Hero 10 just looks so rough relative.

    • @KentRoads
      @KentRoads 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      a camera that can only handle 400 ISO LOL

  • @RayMak
    @RayMak ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is really sad results for GoPro

    • @ChmieluGD
      @ChmieluGD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      reality check

  • @RayMak
    @RayMak ปีที่แล้ว +46

    DJI Looks very beautiful at night

    • @wezvandez
      @wezvandez ปีที่แล้ว +4

      beautifully noisy and low detailed.

  • @DoLNet142
    @DoLNet142 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I wanted to see what your bike looks like😂 Mystery solved! And thanks for the comparison. My preference would be the Action 4 over the Hero 12. Ordered!

  • @tictac9074
    @tictac9074 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I have neither a DJI or GoPro yet, and and very confused about which one to get!

  • @vadimnechaev
    @vadimnechaev ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could you please try reducing on Action 4 by -0.6 or -1?
    It looks like it's overbrithen by default and can be much interesting tuned.

    • @dannytaylor2676
      @dannytaylor2676 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought the same, EV was slightly too high. There was more detail in the sky on the Gopro shot than the DJI.

    • @rudydoyle
      @rudydoyle ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he overexposed the action 4 on purpose, this guy is a gopro fanaboy

  • @isaacstone7899
    @isaacstone7899 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Both are good,
    GoPro 12 is awesome details in sunset.
    DJI 4 good at low light, but over exposure in light spots and sunset sky.

    • @rick137.pickle
      @rick137.pickle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Needs a filter for the magic hour

    • @Havetsvarg
      @Havetsvarg หลายเดือนก่อน

      That problem goes away if you either
      1) change the auto exposure EV to -0.3 or -0.7
      Or
      2) change to manual and flat profile.
      Granted, it will degrade the user experience as it is no longer a set-and-forget action camera. But it becomes a way better camera in terms of picture quality

  • @andyballard1883
    @andyballard1883 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Once again your providing just the best most thorough testing. It's really interesting though what you said at the end with regard to a phone will perform better in low light that either of the action cameras because right at the start the iPhone footage was by far the worst of the 3 🤔. For me the Action 4 was by far the best and I'm just hoping the upcoming pocket 3 performed as well as this as that is the device I'm really waiting for... keep up the great work 👍

  • @ExploringAlabama
    @ExploringAlabama หลายเดือนก่อน

    For those of us who simply turn them on and hope for the best, I thank you. I’m sticking with my GoPro. Great review

  • @RonaldBrown59
    @RonaldBrown59 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This was a very interesting test, and eye opening to see how much better the Action 4 was in low-light. Great video comparison, and thanks for sharing.

    • @vsstdtbs3705
      @vsstdtbs3705 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Action 4 is much better. I heard some companies that advertise their cameras, do shots in full frame, falsely implying it is the action camera doing the shots. Wonder if the GoPro website is like that. It is why independent reviews like this are so important.

  • @pinnysun8442
    @pinnysun8442 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gopro is over sharpen, its especially clear when you look at the trees and silluate, overall dji action 4 wins

  • @importon
    @importon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They both suck in low light honestly

  • @lamberdt
    @lamberdt ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Imho the size matters. And the point where gopro was losing is the moment when not enough light could get to sensor. In daytime, whoever would like totake maximum of camera, would use gp log od action 4 d log for colouring and manage colours in post production. So dji is able to be colored as gopro but night time gopro is completly unusable and it's not just bosting highlights. What's more action 4 records gyro data so stabilization can be done also in post production. As for me - diving in caves and caving there is no other option than dji. I've been waiting for this comparison but I already purchased dji action 4 diving housing because Gopro just cannot manage and do anyghing with this sensor. Thanks and keep it going !

    • @voluntarypropaganda
      @voluntarypropaganda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “I already bought the DJI action 4 dive housing” didnt DC mention something about not fanboying in the comments?

    • @lamberdt
      @lamberdt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@voluntarypropaganda yeah but You know this is just from my research I had done already to find which camera will be the best match for my needs. And it was dji. Nothing fanboy about choosing oa4 for cave diving and caving. This Ray comparison just repeated what I already knew or suspected.

    • @moonstriker7350
      @moonstriker7350 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      DJi has far better stabilization, but it severely overexposes causing burned out skies.

    • @lamberdt
      @lamberdt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@moonstriker7350 yes. It seems that for the sky and bright places the gopro 12 wins with sharpness of it.

  • @JohnRocker340
    @JohnRocker340 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    GoPro during the day, Action Cam at night is the perfect setup. Just picked up both.

  • @FrankLin-z1q
    @FrankLin-z1q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just as always, Gopro is terrible when it comes to low light capability!

  • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
    @EverythingIsPhotogenic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hit the like button for the algorithm, people!
    Ray has put a lot of work into showing us all a very important comparison in low light:
    GoPro: Crap
    DJI: Brighter crap
    iPhone: Even brighter crap
    Fanboys discuss! 😂
    I'll fangirl for Ray, he's the real winner here 😉

  • @cleggycyclist
    @cleggycyclist ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is this straight out of the box exposure settings? The DJI is at least one stop brighter in exposure, it's like DJI made the decision that highlights do not matter lets blow them out to show more in the shadows. GoPro has taken the opposite approach conserving more detail in the highlights and allowing you to pull the exposure up in post if you want to. On the shaded, daylight, forest trail the GoPro footage was so much better.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Straight out of box/default settings.

  • @stevemuzak8526
    @stevemuzak8526 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Let's be honest: All of them are not good at low light.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yup…something I cover in the video. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤣

    • @SebMercier
      @SebMercier ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Indeed. But let me get my GoPro Hero 3+ to compare 😂 they will look amazing in comparison, I bet. At some point, small sensors can’t compete with a full frame sensor… but go put a full frame sensor camera on your helmet, you better have the neck of a F1 driver 😂
      More seriously, GoPro seems to underexpose to protect highlights (you can’t recover blown highlights) at the expense of noise when you need to recover shadows.
      It would be interesting to see the end result after editing to get the same brightness and colors, here it feels a bit like we compare raw files, not the end result.

    • @stevemuzak8526
      @stevemuzak8526 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you ever tried topaz denoise AI and apply it to your low light footage? @@Dcrainmaker

    • @Adventure-MTB
      @Adventure-MTB ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dcrainmakerfor the DJI. What iso for the night scene 12000+ ?

  • @savrenx8256
    @savrenx8256 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want buy action camera and this video helped me alot. Seems I like DJI more than gopro. Less editing and that DJI video directly useable without brightness or shadow correction. GoPro very good for cinematic color though.

  • @The__Watchmen__
    @The__Watchmen__ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And this is the reason I bought a full frame sensor Panasonic S5ii, low light video is an achilles heel for many video cameras.
    The GoPro clearly has much better, natural colours, but the DJi is employing software trickery and over-compensating with high iso. The video at 7:34 clearly shows this - you can barely see your shoe in the DJI, but the GoPro handles it well.

  • @njkrohde
    @njkrohde ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both are excellent cameras, Dji better at night (I didn't understand why the GoPro moved so much if my Hero10 doesn't move like that at night) in Mexico GoPro is cheaper than Osmo, with the addition that I can have several enduro batteries ( generic) on the other hand, in the Osmo the batteries must be original (70-90€), the compatibility of low-cost accessories of the GoPro and the plus of the wireless audio I think gives points in favor of Gopro. matter of taste. They are very similar cameras, each with its unique qualities. In the end it is better to make good content with a lower quality camera than bad content with an excellent quality camera. Greetings, I like your channel. I'm your fan

  • @antonv.
    @antonv. ปีที่แล้ว

    GoPro is super nice during the day but not at night.

  • @MichelePonte
    @MichelePonte 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the DJI sound better?
    To me is more loud and clear

  • @Flyer2303
    @Flyer2303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, have you already tried GP-Log?
    I have seen two videos which were quite unhappy with its performance especially noise in the shadows.
    Maybe you can also look into it?
    One of those videos states it would be fixable with gopro labs by setting ev to 0 instead of -2.0 (what the default and locked value of GP-Log apparently is).

  • @RS.Outdoors
    @RS.Outdoors ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Little tip. If the weather is good is to remove the glass lens cover and use the plastic shroud version in the kit instead. Note that camera is no longer weatherproof if you do. It is supposed to help in low light but I have also found it stops the wild lens flare you can get on bright sunny days as well.

    • @roninr8199
      @roninr8199 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Better to buy cheap glass protector lens cap for night

  • @vivienrajz798
    @vivienrajz798 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting. GoPro has a better balance between shadows and highlights in expense of night capability, while sems DJI is overexposing to gain details, but burn our highlights. From color balance GoPro wins, but for night details DJI. Wiuld be courious about single images...

  • @ChrisTreleaven
    @ChrisTreleaven ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great comparison! 👍🏼
    Personally I think the GoPro looks better during the day, had nice vivid colours. Also was better at showing fine details... But as soon as the sun went down, it was obvious DJI was much better in low light situations. Also the image stabilisation looked better on the DJI.
    I guess what one to buy comes down to what you’re doing with it. Both seem great, but choose wisely. 📷

    • @dadlife8289
      @dadlife8289 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those colors are artificial. GoPro makes my local trails appear to have orange dirt, but in real life it's not orange at all

  • @californication2000
    @californication2000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In your original videos without compression.. do you notice action 4 blurs more the each frame than the gp? 2:24 (due to stabilization)

  • @ab.jalloh4165
    @ab.jalloh4165 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Overall DJI is the winner

  • @MatthewTaylor3
    @MatthewTaylor3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do a quick video on the Action 4 vs. an iPhone or any suitable phone like a Samsung Note or S series

  • @SkoraMan
    @SkoraMan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At the end you said, that your phone just blew out action cameras. At what point it was much better than acton 4? Because for me it's kind of similar looks of iphone 14 pro and action 4.

  • @Bokooda
    @Bokooda ปีที่แล้ว +6

    DJI's overexposure during daylight can be pulled back by tweaking the default EV/shutter speed settings down and then set to 'normal' for twilight into night time. There's nothing on the GoPro to give you that extra 45mins - hour of filming before you have to get your phone out. (Up to a point), I'd rather have some jitters in the shot than not being able to see peoples faces. Looks like too much fall off in the overall image on the GoPro when it starts to get dark. These are amazing cameras, but it will be a few more years before I can take only one camera out for my bikepacking travel videos. Thanks taking the time to show the average user what happens to both these cameras when evening falls. 👍

  • @tufftuffrugz5330
    @tufftuffrugz5330 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like gopro colors more in the low light. Also I think your default settings werent correct. DJI should have just a RockSteady without low light option on.

  • @Cake...
    @Cake... ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Rainmaker's comparison videos are amongst the best. Quality stuff.

  • @ironworkscrawley
    @ironworkscrawley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Theoretically the action 4 should win hands down in a low light test because of physicals. both as far as i can tell have the same focal ratio or F/ stop, so no advantage there. The A4 has a larger sensor so collects more light, but the GP12 has a higher pixel count which is actually worse because What is important is the actual individual pixel size. less pixels in a larger sensor means more light collection, simply because the pixels are larger..... But perhaps the last bit that never gets mentioned is quantum efficiency, something anyone that does astro photography will know about. In short each new generation of sensor gets more efficient at detecting photons. This might not be in play here, but if we assume gp12 is the same sensor as the gp11, its a 2 year old sensor, if the sensor in the A4 is a new sensor then it is one generation advanced so better at detecting light. not sure that in an action cam it would make a vast difference but in astro cams, it can be the difference between a tiny faint star not showing in an image and it showing

  • @chenar82
    @chenar82 ปีที่แล้ว

    The question is why GoPro poor in dark? Why they can’t make it better? How came small camera in a phone do it better in the camera itself in GoPro !

  • @christiannikodemus
    @christiannikodemus ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I find the stabilization for the GoPro is better but the brightness is much better on the DJI, also the DJI has less of a warp, I'm not sure if that's because the GoPro uses a wider focal length, or if there's some corrective component going on with the DJI but the DJI looks so much better and not like a fish eye lens

  • @ruhollahmotaharinejad9859
    @ruhollahmotaharinejad9859 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    @dc rainmaker In my life there is no action in lowlights at the moment, if there would be I’d rather not record it by any camera 😂😂😂😂

  • @TDCIYB77
    @TDCIYB77 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Panasonic should do a M43 action cam, now that they have PDAF. Maybe even work with DJI, as they are both in the L-Mount Alliance.. That would be a killer!

  • @Tallguysrc
    @Tallguysrc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Something not talked about much when you're shooting at night what you're seeing vrs what the camera records, think of it like you film a concert and the video looks like the lights are on, to me that's not a benefit.

  • @walkingmanvideo9455
    @walkingmanvideo9455 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still garbage low light stability from gopro. Lets wait for the, lockup, freezing complaints from people including the world renowned sd card write errors that they all have had over the years. gopro should have shutdown business when DJI introduced their action camera. Thanks for taking the time to test.

  • @qayyumchariff4357
    @qayyumchariff4357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you know how to manually sets your camera, iso, shutterspeed, etc, it wont matter which camera, but I still wouldn't go for the GoPro

  • @DDFGhostHunting
    @DDFGhostHunting 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are micro gitters in the day video for the DJI but it kicked the gopros ass in the night videos

  • @MegaKorben
    @MegaKorben 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unfair comparison. If you turn off hyper smooth on go
    Pro it is much better. In daylight you used standard instead of hdr and log of course it doesn’t look good

  • @Chinhnguyen0497
    @Chinhnguyen0497 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow. the dji even looks worst in daylight. 2:44 just 2 minutes in and looks that the image quality

  • @aticonn
    @aticonn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To me it simply looks like the DJI is brighter at the base settings, it blows out the highlights when you have a brighter portion of the image so that seems to me to confirm it does not have better dynamic range. So if you want equivalent exposure on the GoPro just adjust the EV and you can get the same “Brightness” in low light and blow out any highlights like the DJI. Just my opinion. That last scene look at his tennis shoe it’s totally blow out on the DJI.

    • @timk8258
      @timk8258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes but even with the lower overall exposure the GoPro footage is noisier, had less detail and worse stabilization (in the night shots). So it’s going to look even worse if you push the EV up another stop or more.

  • @TheTranquilWalker
    @TheTranquilWalker 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What was your iso/shutter settings on?

  • @KentRoads
    @KentRoads 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WTF is stabilation?

  • @planetguam8475
    @planetguam8475 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dji started taking over 2 years ago. I stuck with GoPro because its an American company, and was hoping they'd get better. GoPro is getting worse and dji is getting better. Sorry GoPro, I'm buying Chinese.

  • @krtz23
    @krtz23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its weird. Its kinda like you need both of these cameras. One for night and the other for day.

  • @Matlauk
    @Matlauk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do agree that gopro has better daytime quality. But the batteries are so unreliable, the camera dies at 50% battery life, desynced audio, camera turning off from over heating. I'll grab the the DJI over the gopro every time. GoPro has known about these issues for years. 5+ years. I do not see myself buying another gopro.

  • @StuartEdge1
    @StuartEdge1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The tour of Amsterdam was awesome! Really nice looking city.
    Cameras not so much.
    10/10 for the tour guide 😂

  • @xuimod
    @xuimod ปีที่แล้ว

    How can GoPro screw it up so badly? They aren't even trying to compete.

  • @mariuszbiernaczyk5656
    @mariuszbiernaczyk5656 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Go pro still better. Clouds, colors, image details, face distortion ... and more...

  • @Heliosmaster
    @Heliosmaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work! for me your comparisons are also great for an added reason: I've lived in Amsterdam for many years and I get a bit nostalgic (in a good way)

  • @kitttt2002
    @kitttt2002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kinda just give us another reason to ditch gopro

  • @EspenJohan
    @EspenJohan ปีที่แล้ว

    For me Dji looks best, I have both cameras dont think im gonna use them in really low light.