This is indeed very cool! I have a NARD+SAM on order and it would be exciting to use the SAM with the pm3. Appreciate your work and contributions! Hope that we can see this in the mainline branch before too long!
Great questions! A SAM is just a secure element for key material or other data you deem important. Its designed to be secure and they are. Your SAM need to have keys/application stored on them in order to be useful with a system and not to mention know how to communicate with it. There are no key material send over the wire.
@@iceman1001 Ok, just to be clear. You mentioned you had to write code to communicate with both the card, and the SAM at the same time, in order for it to work. I thought that meant you had to get data from the sam to unlock the card. but I guess it communicates directly with the card? or are the commands encrypted by the sam, and then sent to the card? Also, is there no authentication needed to connect to the SAM? I'm tried looking it up because I looked into MiFare a lot, but I thought they were locked with a key, but can't find it. Or can you just put the correct SAM in any system to make it work with the corresponding cards?
@@iWhacko yes, how the HID SAM operates is fun. I didn't mention the details on purpose. For readers that accepts a HID SAM, their firmware is programmed to operate it. And that is more or less what the Seader project has reversed.
This is very impressive but I'm getting a error message on mine when running the 'hf iclass sam' command [+] SAM (Grace) detected [!] ⚠ SAM select failed (Version - v4.42 )
try unplugging the pm3 and plug in again. try `smart info` to see if that works properly. and join the discord server , you find it a great place to ask questions
That is correct, if you feel to contribute to the code, by all means go ahead. And I am not sure what a EV1 SAM is so I can not say if it will work with the flipper zero and seader app.
Thanks for sharing with the world mate!
No problem 👍
This is indeed very cool! I have a NARD+SAM on order and it would be exciting to use the SAM with the pm3. Appreciate your work and contributions! Hope that we can see this in the mainline branch before too long!
Thanks for watching!
its been merged now
Thank you soo much. This help me to upgrade my sim module. Now it works fine. Thx
Great to hear!
would this work with Mifare SAM's? And could you extract keys during the communication process?
Great questions!
A SAM is just a secure element for key material or other data you deem important.
Its designed to be secure and they are. Your SAM need to have keys/application stored on them in order to be useful with a system and not to mention know how to communicate with it.
There are no key material send over the wire.
@@iceman1001 Ok, just to be clear. You mentioned you had to write code to communicate with both the card, and the SAM at the same time, in order for it to work. I thought that meant you had to get data from the sam to unlock the card. but I guess it communicates directly with the card? or are the commands encrypted by the sam, and then sent to the card?
Also, is there no authentication needed to connect to the SAM? I'm tried looking it up because I looked into MiFare a lot, but I thought they were locked with a key, but can't find it. Or can you just put the correct SAM in any system to make it work with the corresponding cards?
@@iWhacko yes, how the HID SAM operates is fun. I didn't mention the details on purpose.
For readers that accepts a HID SAM, their firmware is programmed to operate it.
And that is more or less what the Seader project has reversed.
Any way we can converse one on one? If so please lmk how and when I can
You can always find me on the discord server
Hello, Can I just copy the bin file from the iClass legacy card to a blank iClass legacy card?
More or less.
`hf iclass restore`
This is very impressive but I'm getting a error message on mine when running the 'hf iclass sam' command
[+] SAM (Grace) detected
[!] ⚠ SAM select failed
(Version - v4.42 )
try unplugging the pm3 and plug in again.
try `smart info` to see if that works properly.
and join the discord server , you find it a great place to ask questions
Thanks for the quick reply! @@iceman1001 - Yes, I'll save troubleshooting questions for the discord. Just signed up now :)
@@CHABBO Good choice!
So if I have an EV1 SAM this code base doesn't exist in hf mfdes commands right ?
That is correct, if you feel to contribute to the code, by all means go ahead.
And I am not sure what a EV1 SAM is so I can not say if it will work with the flipper zero and seader app.